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thanks to my distinguished panel and to all of you for watching. i'm paul gigot. hope to see you right here next week. ♪ eric: right now, the first week of public hearings in the impeachment inquiry is in the books. the investigation not taking a break today. another deposition wrapping up a short time ago on capitol hill. this as white house budget official testified behind closed doors and the intelligence committee prepares to release more transcripts of witness interviews any moment now. hello, welcome to america's news headquarters, i'm eric sean. arthel: i'm arthel neville. hello everyone. we are told this afternoon we could see the transcripts of the closed door testimony from former national security counsel official, tim morrison, vice president pence's aide, jennifer williams and minutes ago investigators finished the
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deposition of mark sandy. he was expected to talk about the holdup of military aid to ukraine. meantime, reaction coming in from both sides of the aisle, showing the growing split on impeachment. >> you had one thing in mind, he wanted to shake down president zelensky for his participation in the be president's political scheme. >> they've got this problem, they lost, they had to flip the narrative. they've tried quid pro quo. they're trying bribery. we'll see if they ever get around to taking a vote. eric: we have team fox news coverage today. allison better i barber is at te house. let's begin with chad pilgrim, he's live on the hill. he's been all over this story on this saturday. >> reporter: we're told that omb official mark sand econ clouded his deposition. he was here for about six hours. he has not left the building yet as far as we know. just about two minutes before we came on the air, fox obtained a
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transcript here from jennifer williams, the nsc official who delivered a deposition a couple weeks ago. she is an aide to vice president mike pence here. and i'm going to read -- we've been going through the transcripts in real-time as we get them. i'm getting this just as we get here. one thing i've noticed in what they have said about the transcript from jennifer williams is that a hard copy of the call transcript between president trump and the president of ukraine zelensky was placed in vice president pence's briefing book and it's important to note that jennifer williams was actually on the telephone call, the big call in question, on july 25th. there's been a lot of republican criticism of secondhand and thirdhand information but here you have a witness testifying along with tim an timothy morri. people who have direct custody of what was said on the call. also in some of the testimony here from jennifer williams, she says that she believes that barisma was mentioned on the call and she said that a little
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bit later a call for investigations, quote, seemed unusual. now, as i say, they have just concluded the deposition of the omb official, mark sandy here, and i talked with eric swail sws well, he was in the room for the deposition this morning. he said what is remarkable about the investigation is that it is driven by witness accounts. someone who was not in the deposition this morning is adam schiff, the chairman of the intelligence committee. he was at a democratic nominating convention in long beach, california. he had a lot to say about this week of testimony and depositions. listen. >> you will forgive me if i'm a bit exhausted. it's been an eventful week. there is a reason he pressed the president of ukraine to interfere in our election on july 25th and that is because he listened to the testimony of robert mueller on july 24th. there is nothing more dangerous
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than an unethical president who believes he is above the law. >> reporter: i was checking my phone while we were listening to adam schiff to see if there's any more information that's come in on the transcripts. nothing yet. they released 3 yo 3,075 pages f those transcripts so far. i've not gone through this transcript from jennifer williams and later timothy morrison to add up the grand total. that tells you how much has been going on on capitol hill. next week will be a blockbuster week in washington as we have another set of open hearings. i talk about morrison and williams being on the phone call. also on the phone call was lieutenant colonel alexander venman. he will testify on tuesday and gordon sondland, the u.s. ambassador to the european union, he will testify on wednesday. friday we will have theona hill, the russia advisor on the national security council who stepped aside. she'll be up on thursday.
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adam schiff will not commit to that being the end of the impeachment hearings. back to you. eric: i may be jumping the gun, tim morrison reportedly said he was troubled by the call but didn't he see anything illegal in that. any indication so far in terms of ms. williams, what her view was? >> reporter: in the thumbnail sketch that i did a few minutes ago, she thought the conversations about, quote, investigations, appeared to be unusual. and again, this is where democrats -- if you look at kind of how they're structuring their case here, they said okay, we've heard from people who had secondhand and thirdhand information who had presumptions about what might have been going wrong here. it's going to be very important to look at john tittle from the conversations here and the interpretations of the phone call from williams and morris. eric: chad, we'll let you get back t it. thank you. a fox news team coverage continues now from the white house. he heard chad on capitol hill. president trump saying he wasn't
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trying to intimidate ousted ambassador in that live tweet as you know but the democrats say he was, suggesting it could be a new potential article of impeachment. allison barber is following this breaking news from the north lawn of the white house. al son. >> reporter: the white house continues to say that the impeachment inquiry is partisan politics, an illegitimate charade that is a waste of taxpayers time and money. in a statement, stephanie grishom said friday's hearing was as use less and inconsequential as the first. ambassador yovanovitch testified she was unaware of any criminal activity involving president trump. she was not on the july 25th phone call and had no knowledge about the pause on aid to ukraine. it's difficult to imagine a greater waste of time. a big moment in yesterday's hearing came when president trump you attacked the former ambassador to glaxosmithkline a tweet -- to ukraine in a tweet in the middle of the hearing. a democrat called it witness intimidation in real-time. some suggested they could add a
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charge to the impeachment case. in the roosevelt room, president trump criticized the inquiry and told reporters he does not think his tweets or words can be intimidating at all. >> i'll tell you what tampering is. tampering is when a guy like shifty schiff doesn't let us have lawyers. tampering is when schiff doesn't let us have witnesses, doesn't let us speak. congressman nunes read a call that i had with president of ukraine and it was a great call. it was a very nice call. everybody said it was perfect. i always say, it was equally as good as the other call. >> reporter: the call transcript he's referring to is from april. the call at the center of the impeachment inquiry took place in late july. president trump has repeatedly said his interest in having ukraine look at the bidens was tied to bigger issues of corruption. he once tweeted that as the president of the united states he has an absolute right, perhaps even duty to investigate
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or have others investigate corruption. talk of corruption was noticeably absent from the april phone call, even though white house read-out released at the time said it was discussed. the white house is suggesting a witness set to publicly testify next week, lieutenant colonel venman was in charged of writing that readout. the president's schedule was empty today. he did make a visit to walter reed an hour ago. the white house said president trump is anticipating a busy 2020 and tried to take advantage of a free weekend in dc to begin portions of his routine annual physical exam. eric. eric: allison, thanks so much. arthel: thank you. a man wounded during a shooting at a new jersey high school football game is now facing charges himself. police say the man had a weapon on him while emergency responders were tending to him. the incident happening during a playoff game last night near atlantic city. two others were also injured during the shooting including a 10-year-old boy who was in
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critical condition. a witness described the scene as chaotic. >> it was mayhem. literally was people coming in waves, running away from the right-hand side of the field, towards the high school. and i think part of the fence was actually busted tone from bodies of people going over the fence. arthel: police arrested five other men and charged them in connection with the shootings. that includes the alleged gunman. eric: the suspected gunman behind the deadly shooting in santa clarita, california has died from a self-inflicted wound. he killed two students and injured three others before police say he shot himself in the head. officials say it appears the early morning attack was planned. but so far, the motive behind that deadly school shooting still remains unclear. >> we woke you up today probably still incredibly stunned and awed by the
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president's generosity, the time that he spent with us on the phone. he was just incredibly warm and demonstrated an amazing degree of knowledge about the case. arthel: that was matthew goldstein on president trump granting him clemency after being charged with murdering a suspected taliban bomb maker. he's one of two army officers accused of war crimes who was pardoned by the president. clint lawrence was released from prison last night, six years after he was convicted of second degree murder. navy seal eddie gallagher will have the rank of chief petty officer restored after being convicted of posing with a photo with a dead islamic state fighter. lucas tomlinson with more from washington. >> reporter: the army opened up a murder investigation after major goldstein after an
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interview with brett bar behr in 2016. >> did you find the suspected taliban bomb maker. >> we did capture a a fighter and then id material, weapons, we recovered radios, small radios that the taliban were using, so quite a bit of material. >> at the time, you think this is the guy? >> yeah, absolutely. >> did you kill the taliban bomb maker? >> yes. >> reporter: another army officer, clint lawrence, was freed last night from prison after also receiving a pardon from president trump. as you mentioned, lawrence had been serving six years of a 19 year sentence for second degree murder in afghanistan. after allegedly ordering his forces to open fire, killing two men on motorcycles. president trump also ordered navy seal eddie gallagher's rays rank restored to chief petty officer. he was found guilty of posing for a photograph with a dead isis fighter.
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mark esper met with president trump earlier this month. >> i have a robust discussion with the president yesterday and i offered as i do in all matters the facts, the options, my advice, the recommendations, and we'll see how things play out. >> reporter: in his first television interview, goldstein spoke on "fox & friends" earlier today. >> i think it sends a clear signal that the president of the united states is paying attention, that he's not going to be backed off by institutional elements of the dod that are going to try to retain their ability to do certain things and force outcomes. >> reporter: some pentagon brass worry the controversial decision by the president will erode good order and discipline in the ranks. arthel. arthel: thank you very much. eric. eric: the scheduled execution of rodney reed has been halted after the texas court of
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criminal apestle appeals issued. this came hours after the state board of pardons and paroles agreed to delay the execution by 120 days. they say the case should be re-examined amid claims prosecutors suppressed evidence and presented false testimony during the murder trial. he claimed he is innocent and this case, they say, could eventually reach the u.s. supreme court. arthel: prince andrew breaking his silence today about his relationship with jeffrey epstein. in this clip, the british royal discussing how he stayed at the home of the convicted sex offender. >> the problem was the fact that once he had been convicted, i stayed with him. that's the bit that's as it were i kick myself for on a daily basis. arthel: jacqui heinrich has more now. >> reporter: the interview is the first time prince andrew answered questions about the
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allegations, it took permission from the queen to make it happen. the bbc host questioned prince andrew over claims from virginia roberts, now virginia dufree, who says when she was 17 jeffrey epstein forced her to have sex with prince andrew three times. buckingham palace has firmly denied the allegations, calling the suggestion call gor category untrue in a statement. in the clips released so far, we haven't heard the same kind of denial but a different message that he doesn't remember meeting his accuser. >> she said she met you in 2001. she says she dined with you, danced with you at a nightclub in london. she went on to have sex with you in a house belonging to maxwell, your friend. your response in. >>?>> i have no recollection of ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever. >> reporter: prince andrew also answered questions about why he decided to stay with epstein at
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his new york mansion even two years after epstein was convicted of chri soliciting a r for prostitution. andrew said that decision was unbecoming of a member of the royal family. federal prosecutors plan to charge the guards who were supposed to keep watch over epstein before he killed himself in jail. they were offered plea deals but turned them down. more than 20 prison employees were subpoenaed in a probe over how epstein was left alone long enough to take his own life, especially after he was at one time on suicide watch. investigators say guards failed to check on him every half hour as required and fall falsified g records to cover it up. both guards are on administrative leave, pending the outcome of the federal investigation. arthel: thank you. eric: the fight for freedom in hong kong takes a dangerous turn. what is beijing doing for the first time that is raising
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arthel: soldiers from mainland china taking to the streets in hong kong for the first time since pro-democracy protests began five months ago. the soldiers have been sent to help clear roadblocks set up by demonstrator, many of whom barricaded themselves inside a major university. but their presence is raising questions about how long they will stay. let's bring in retired army major general benny bowles who served as assistant deputy chief of staff for the army. always good to have you. i want to start with this, i would imagine you and many of our viewers can't help but think of the haunting memories of the tiananmen square massacre of 1989. you've got the student protesters fighting for economic equality, freedom of speech, free press, they're fighting against nepotism and then you have the people's liberation army troops rolling in with tanks, killing hundreds if not thousands of student protesters. that was in beijing, 30 years
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ago. current day. do you really expect to see pla soldiers using lethal force on these protesters in hong kong and would anybody stand by to watch a massacre in 2018? >> well, i wouldn't see that happening with the pla forces based on what we saw recently with this recent event. these were unarmed soldiers in civilian physical fitness uniforms cleaning roadways that had been roadblocked by the protesters, so a pretty benign operation. your question is could it escalate. and it has been escalating. in the month of november, they've gone from weekend protests now to weekday protests, disturbing the economy and everything else. as they ratchet up the intensity of this, you wonder when the 10,000 pla soldiers might be brought to bear to further support the 30,000 members of the hong kong police force and right now we don't know.
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arthel: that's a very scary situation. i mean, what should or could the u.s. do to dedashe de- escalate situation in hong kong? >> we're spectators in this. we have economic interests with china and hong kong and i'm sure that the lines are burning up on the back end of things, on the quiet end of things. arthel: wha.arthel: who woulde calls? >> you would expect the secretary of state, the state department, the department of defense, looking at our posture in the region. i would expect predominantly the secretary of state. arthel: does that in any way, is it impacted by this potential trade war or any sort of truce, trade truce if you will that president trump is trying to make a deal with president xi-jinping over? >> it depends on how much that means to both parties. the chinese are very fierce he defenders of their own
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integrity. this is their territory and they view it as their territory and they view it as china. we think it's hong kong. they believe it's an embedded part of china and it has been rightfully returned to them. so any interference by us is going to be viewed with great suspicion. arthel: i want to go to the breaking news and the president's pardons. do you think that was the right move and what message could that send to troops in our combat zones? >> well, the president did three actions yesterday. he brought chief petty officer gallagher's rank back. he allowed lieutenant lawrence to be released from fort levinworth. the final one he did that i had the most concern about was with major goldstein. major goldstein his situation had been reviewed, he was allowed to leave the army. as you showed that earlier broadcast, when he had admitted to actually killing the individual, they reinvestigated it and his trial had not yet starred. the trial was due to start at
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the beginning of december. that's the one i have the biggest trouble with. that case hasn't been heard and we haven't seen the results of that and he hasn't been given the chance to make his case. we basically dismissed the charges. arthel: before i let you go, i want to switch over to the testimony of marie yovanovitch. dedicated, distinguished civil servant for more than 30 years. she was live tweeted by the president during her testimony to which ambassador yovanovitch said it intimidated her. if u.s. ambassadors don't have the cover of the state department, let alone the president, does this undercut their standing and post throughout the world? does this threaten their personalal security? does this threaten the country's national security? >> any time we have people on the front lines representing the united states and they have to believe they need to look over their shoulder at some force behind them that won't be supportive of them, that is not a good thing wherever that occurs. arthel: all right.
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general bowles, i have to leave it there. always appreciate your expertise and analysis. thank you so much. >> always a pressure, arthel. all the best. thank you. eric: now to politics and the 2020 democratic race. duvall patrick, he's filling out paperwork to be on the ballot in new hampshire. that of course the first in the nation primary state adjacent to his home state. this as bernie sanders and elizabeth warren fan out across the country in their push for the nomination. christina coleman is following ought of this from los angeles. she knows who was where and what they were saying. hey, christina. >> reporter: it's a tight race right now in iowa with the top four candidates within a nine point margin of each other, according to a poll out this week. amy klobuchar and elizabeth warren holding campaign events in i-iowa today, two of the top tier iowa contenders are in california right now and the california democratic party
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falcon venges is underway this weekend. duvall patrick officially entered the race on thursday many he just took the stage at the convention here in california and he got mixed reaction from the crowd. patrick admits he's got some work to do. >> i'm going to have to win everybody's confidence and everyone's vote, whether they have a first impression that's favorable or first impression that's not. that's the way it is. and i'm asking democrats to do what i think democrats have historically done pretty well which is keep an open mind and open hearth and give me a chance to make my case. it's not about conveniencing or inconveniencing anyone. it's about what we can do in unity. >> reporter: patrick isn't the only one getting a late start in the race. former new york city mayor michael bloomberg filed paperwork to become a presidential candidate in arkansas' democratic primary on
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tuesday. and he qualified for alabama's primary last week. senator kamala harris' campaign is touting the endorsement of the 10,000 member strong united farm workers union, a key endorsement for her struggling campaign, especially in the midst of the growing list of democratic presidential contenders. and ten candidates will take part in the next democratic debate which is this wednesday and biden still leads the race for the democratic nomination in the polls. eric. eric: christina, thanks so much. arthel: it is down to the wire in louisiana's race for governor. both sides pulling out all the stops as voters head to the polls. plus, adam schiff accusing president trump of witness intimidation. will the president's tweets raise the stakes in the show glown there is nothing more dangerous than an unethical president who believes he is above the law. (danny) let me get this straight.
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>> as we sit here testifying, the president is attacking you on twitter. i'll read part of one of his tweets. everywhere marie yovanovitch went turned bad. she started off in somalia. how did that go? he goes on to say, later in the tweet, is that u.s. presidents have the right to appoint ambassadors. the president real-time is attacking you. >> it's very intimidating. eric: president trump's tweet's adding to the drama and legality at the hearing in which marie yovanovitch was testifying and the president at that same moment tweeting about her. the former ambassador saying that while she testified the tweets were intimidating. are they illegal? john joins us, an attorney and fox newsradio correspondent. the ambassador said they were intimidating, she's been smear add and in her words she has been devastated by the president
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of the united states. the democrats are saying this is illegal, could be added to the articles of impeachment. you're a lawyer, john. what's your view? >> well, it really depends, eric, on what the intent was of the president. if his intent was indeed to influence the testimony of marie yovanovitch in any way, that would be unlawful. the president when asked about this yesterday said he's exercising his first amendment rights. that's not a good argument. the courts have said your first amendment is not trump trying to intimidate a witness in an official proceeding. this of course was an official proceeding. a better argument for the president, if it does go that far, is to say, look, i'm just telling you why it was that i had to let marie yovanovitch go and recall her from serving as the u.s. ambassador to ukraine. she wasn't doing a good job. she wasn't up for the position and that's why she no longer holds that position. that is really the best argument
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for the president going forward. as to whether or not this may form an articles of impeachment by democrats, that's up to them. they control the process, eric. and if, for instance, if the chairman of the intelligence committee, adam schiff, wants to recommend that to the judiciary committee, which actually write the articles of apples impeachme certainly can do so. eric: they take any allegations of potential witness tampering or intimidation in his words very seriously. could this also be obstruction of justice or as you said, the president said it's his right to speak out about anyone. he calls this a political process and he should be able to engage in the same thing. >> he can weigh in. it's his right to weigh had in. i think that the problem here is if you weigh in with the objective or the intent to try to influence the testimony, not only of the witness that we heard on friday, marie yovanovitch, but any other
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witness and we have i believe eight witnesseses testifying over three days next week. so you know the president's going to be watching, he's watched so far in this process and i don't blame him. this process affects him in a very real way. he could face articles of impeachment which is something that obviously something very serious. he knows what would happen p if it goes to the senate and essentially it's pretty clear that republicans would fall in line. there's a lot of unity that exists in the republican party. that being said, no one wants it as their legacy that they were an impeached president. eric: likely, you think thrill with be more tweets coming? it's a big week, sondland is testifying, reportedly said he overheard a conversation that someone had while in kiev with the president and hearing the president talk directly about wanting the investigation. this seemingly the first testimony that could directly tie the president to the request to have an investigation of the
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bidens. >> this is the testimony that i'm most interested as well as a lot of other legal people are most interested in watching on wednesday morning, this is the testimony of gordon sondland, the u.s. ambassador to the european union. unlike the witnesses we've seen so far, eric, he is not a trained diplomat. he's an individual who donated $1 million to the president's inaugural committee and got this plumb post of u.s. ambassador to the european union. i think his testimony will be unlike the testimony that we've heard so far, from the three witnesseses that we've heard so far, which was very measured, very diplomatic. he's not trained that way and i think that for that reason it will be interesting to hear how he handles tough questions coming from both republicans and democrats that sit on the intelligence committee. eric: finally, john, let's say the democrats ask him about that phone call specifically, did you talk to the president, did he direct you to -- yes, that the
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investigation was going to continue, what will republicans try to get out of him to defend the president? >> well, i don't know how he answers that other than truthfully. apparently you may have two witnesses who testified already saying that that is indeed what they overheard and ambassador sondland's conversations with the president and this is one of those things where you don't want to be in a position in which you could possibly be on the opposite side of those two other witnesses. he certainly could have been asked about this but there's no indication that he was, in order did he volunteer this phone conversation which happened on july 26th which was a day after president trump had his second conversation with president zelensky which initiated the entire impeachment inquiry. eric: david holmes said there were two other officials at the tape table when sondland was on the phone with the president and they could overhear the president because he was talking so loudly on the cell phone. a big week next week, big day
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next wednesday. john, good to see you. >> thanks a lot. arthel: a big day in louisiana where voters head to the polls for a hotly contested gubernatorial race. john bel edwards is facing a stiff challenge from republican eddie rispone, a businessman who compares himself to then candidate trump back in 2016. >> now, you have an incumbent, you have an outsider, a conservative, someone who has never run before, not beholden to special interests, similar to what the president had to face when he ran. arthel: casey siegal joins us from baton rouge with the latest. >> reporter: good to see you. you know quite well that this is a ruby red state. so it's quite unusual for a governor, an incumbent governor, to be fighting for his spot. but then again, it is a democrat incumbent governor here and this republican businessman who has little to no name recognition in the state really giving him a
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run for his money and republicans are hoping that they can pull out a win tonight. this poll here in baton rouge, it has been open since the early morning hours and it has been busy all day. we thought maybe there was a lunch rush but it hasn't stopped. and this also has received a lot of national attention. use know, president trump himself just here on thursday, drumming up support for millionaire businessman eddie rispone, the republican challenger to the democratic incumbent governor, john bel edwards, the third time the president stumped in rispone, trying to turn the tide. rispone never held public office before but in today's runoff he is neck and neck. edwards has been in this up-hill battle and if he does not win, it would be just the second time in louisiana's state history that an incumbent governor failed to win a second term in a
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runoff election. here's the governor. >> turned a $2 billion deficit, the largest in our state's history, into three consecutive surpluses. [ cheering and applause ] >> today i can stand before you and say that over 450,000 luce y450,000 peoplehave health insut have it before i became governor. >> reporter: voters here in the bayou state have a number of key issues that they have identified as being priority. education and the economy being among the top two among the voters here. arthel. arthel: big race down there for sure. mr. siegal, there is a plate of catfish waiting for you at the end of your shift. [ laughter ] >> reporter: i'm there. arthel.eric: they say it's theh for transparency, the trump administration is trying to make hospitals list their prices.
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arthel: the trump administration is taking on the health care industry. announcing new regulations that will require hospitals to list the prices had they negotiate with insurers, this would mean more transparency for patients but hospitals will likely push back. >> for decades, hospitals, insurance companies, lobbyists and special interests have hidden prices from consumers so they could drive up costs for you and you had no idea what was happening. you would get bills that were unbelievable and you have no idea why. all of that will change. hospitals will soon be required to publish the price of everything from individual medical supplies to the total cost of common procedures. next, we will bring much needed
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price transparency to insurance companies. i'm sure they'll be thrilled. arthel: i'm joined by dr. jeanette neshua, medical director for city md. doctor jeanette, first of all, will this work? >> i hope so. because arthel, we have millions of americans who are struggling to pay medical bills. some families are filing for bankruptcy and going into financial ruin and having trouble putting food on the table. and then on top of that, they're getting surprise medical bills in the mail for thousands of dollars that they had no idea that they're going to get. the goal is, the purpose of this is to allow affordable accessible high quality health care and with transparency, it gives patients choices. it gives patients options and they can choose what hospital they want, what doctor they want and this will -- arthel: how so. i don't understand? how so? >> think of it like going to one shoe store versus another shoe store, one restaurant versus another. it creates competition and that can help lower prices because
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patients right now are struggling to pay copays and premiums and deductibles and the cost of prescriptions are astronomical. arthel.arthel: you're saying we prices on the label, you can say this pair of shoes is that amount at this store, i'll go to this store to find it for 20% less. what will hospitals do? is there a way to circumvent this? >> it's possible. we need to find common ground. hospitals have to meet overhead, they have bills to pay, they have to make some profit. but at least give estimates of what the costs will be so that we cannot put patients into financial ruin just to get basic needs we so desperately need. arthel: the primary focus is on the patient and the health care they need as you just pointed out. what about physicians who already are struggling to keep their practices open, many of them are going to the big corporate run hospitals. how will this affect their practices?
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>> what will happen is patients will end up delaying seeking medical care. that means worse outcomes for patients an makes it more difficult for a doctor to take care of a patient. we have to work together, the unity. so that patients are delaying seeking medical care, less compliant with their health care and sometimes they simply can't afford to he see their doctor, regardless of how cheap the copay is or even if they don't have a copay. so it's just a full circle. we need to look at all aspects of lowering health care costs, transparency, estimates, pricing of procedures. a cat scan at one hospital is cheaper than another hospital. arthel: people don't need to put off taking care of themselves. i want to talk about the drug resistant super bug. how do you catch it and what does it do to the body and where are they lurking? >> a super bug means you have a bacteria or a fungus and the traditional antibiotics and anti-fungal medicines that we have don't work to fight against
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the infections that they cause. and they're looking everywhere. we find them in hospitals. they can be living on your skin right now. but they usually tend to affect people with weakened immune systems or they can affect someone that maybe cut themselves and didn't wash out the wound properly with soap and water. but what happens is these bacteria, these fungus, they mutate, evolve and change. that's why they become resistant to the medications that we currently have. arthel: they have killed 35,000 americans each year it's doing it. sickened 2.8 million more. so how do you fight it? how do you protect yourself? >> we need to avoid overuse of antibiotics. most infections are viral and antibiotics don't treat viral infections. that's something that's really important is antibiotic stewardship. also, one of the most important things we can do to protect ourselves is just simple hand washing. you know, home hygiene, disinfecting, properly cleaning of equipment, properly cleaning
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equipment and supplies in hospitals and at home. making sure you're up-to-date with vaccines, because herd immunity that we get can help prevent infection and helper rar eradicate the disease. arthel: should you get the you flu shot? >> absolutely, 100%, it's not too late. arthel: and you become a germaphobe like me and steer clear of people that are coughing, et cetera. eric: get the flu shot. protesters in france are making a comeback and clashing with police yet again in paris. why the resurgence in that movement and will it last? we will take that up straight ahead. thanks to navy federal it only took 5 minutes. so vets can join? oh yeah. how do you kind of buy a new car? it's used. it's for mikey. you know he's gonna have girls in that car. yeah. he's gonna have two of them.
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eric: french police clashing again with the yellow vest protesters in paris today as demonstrators mark the first anniversary since the move pment was born. kitty logan has more on today's developments from our london bureau. >> reporter: isn't it remarkable how long the protests have been going on, every saturday for a year. the people on the streets say the grievances are not being properly listened to. today we saw protests all across
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france. most were peaceful. there was some violence in paris. as you see, riot police were using water cannons to push back crowds of protesters, also firing tear gas with demonstrators trying to smash windows at a shopping maul and some of the crowds attacking a bank in the center of the city. they also clashed with police, throwing stones and bottles in response as the violence escalated. protesters also setting fire to cars. it was pretty heated for some time today. police say they would deal firmly with any troublemakers out on the streets and around 100 people were arrested. now, this protest movement first started up because of increased fuel prices and high living cost in france. up to 300,000 people were seen out on the streets at any one time a year ago. those protests often turned violent as well. the government has since made some concessions to the protesters. since then, a lot of the gatherings have become smaller
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until time's gone by until today. many of the yellow vest are protesters say they're not being listened to, the government's concessions are not enough. i think we will see this protest movement continue to some extent and also worth noting on the fifth of december there is going to be a national strike in france. back to you. eric: it's become a regular saturday event in paris. kitty, thank you. arthel: another closed door deposition on capitol hill and a new batch of witness testimony as house democrats forge ahead with their impeachment inquiry. what can we learn from the white house budget officials? we'll take a look. any comments doug? yeah. only pay for what you need with liberty mutual. only pay for what you need with liberty mutual. con liberty mutual solo pagas lo que necesitas. only pay for what you need... only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liber♪y 't easy. 12 hours? 20 dogs? where's your belly rubs? after a day of chasing dogs you shouldn't have to chase down payments.
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that's 866-295-0908, or tdameritrade.com/learn. ♪ arthel: the house intel committee releasing the transcript of two more closed door deposition as another one wraps up on capitol hill. house investigators today questioned a career aide inside the white house budget office, after they completed the first week of public hearings. hello, i'm arthel neville. welwelcome to a brand-new hour f america's news headquarters. eric: hello. i'm eric sean. we're looking at the deposition transcripts from tim morrison. he reportedly said the call was troubling but not illegal and the top aide to vice president mike pence, jennifer williams, in her testimony she said she did not flag anything noteworthy about the president's call with
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the ukraine president, as impeachment investigators invesd mark sandy about the time line of releasing military aid to ukraine. yesterday, former ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch testified. allison barber is standing by at the white house. let's begin with chad pilgrim with the latest on the depositions. >> reporter: the key number of the hour is 3,514, that's the total number of pages that have -- of transcripts of depositions that we've got. we got two depositions released in the past hour and 10 minutes. jennifer williams who is an nsc official, worked with vice president pence and also tim morrison. i want to go to something that is key here. these two witnesses were on the phone call between president trump and the leader of ukraine,
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vladimir zelensky on the 25th of july. republicans have been critical of democrats of having second and thirdhand information. these two were on the phone call. i'm going to go to something that jennifer williams testified to. she said, quote, it seemed unusual to other discussions with foreign leaders. she testified that it struck her as unusual and inappropriate to have a discussion about possible investigations. now, that's important when you get into the firsthand information. republicans keep saying wait a minute, everybody they have up here knows it second and thirdhand. erk slawell is a democratic congressman from california, a member of the intelligence committee and he says it's the other way around. listen. >> what is remarkable about this investigation is that it is almost entirely driven by witness accounts. >> reporter: today we got mark sandy who came in for a five and-a-half hour deposition. he's with the omv. democrats and republicans want
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to talk to him to find out how the aid was handled for ukraine. it's important to note that they tried to get mick mulvaney, who technically is still the omb director, he's the acting chief of staff and the acting omb director right now. adam schiff said that mark sandy's testimony, quote, stands in stark contrast to mick mulvaney who refused to testify. if mulvaney had evidence that would contradict what we heard, we would be glad to hear him. republicans walked out of the closed door deposition today and they continue to say that democrats aren't laying a glove on president trump. here's republican mark meadows of north carolina. >> the assumptions that democrats have made and certainly the allegation as that they have made have not been supported. >> reporter: adam schiff was not present for the deposition today. he was in california. but in remarks to a democratic nominating convention in long beach, he said, quote, president
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trump pressed the president of ukraine on the july 25th call because he listened to robert mueller's testimony on july 24th. now, adam schiff also has indicated today that he may try to call both morrison and jennifer williams for open hearings. we have a panoply of open hearings next week, tuesday through thursday. eric: chad, thank you. arthel: president trump continues to push back against the democrats' impeachment inquiry, defending his july 25th phone call with ukraine's president. the president said he did nothing wrong. let's go to allison barber, live at the white house with the reaction. allison. >> reporter: that's right, president trump is defending that phone call from july, july 25th. he's complaining that the press is not spending enough time looking at the other phone call he had with the ukrainian president. listen here. >> congressman nunes read a
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call that i had with the president of ukraine and it was a great call. it was a very nice call. everybody said it was perfect. i always say, it was equally as good as the other call. they don't want to report it. >> reporter: the call he's referring to there is from apri. the call at the center of the impeachment inquiry took place in late july. the april call happened in the hours after president vladimir zelensky won his election. the call began with president trump congratulating then president-elect zelensky on his win, zelensky invited trump to his inauguration in ukraine and president trump invited him to the white house. the call never mentioned anything relate r&d to the bidens or military aid. it didn't mention rooting out corruption which is odd because the official white house readout released on april 21st did. the white house says it's standard operating procedure for the national security council to
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provide these readouts. they say the ukraine expert prepared that one. that would likely be lieutenant colonel venmen, who is set to testify next week. a big moment came when president trump attacked a former ambassador in a tweet. it was called witness intimidation in real-time. president trump disagrees and says he doesn't think his tweets or words are intimidating. >> tampering is when a guy like shifty schiff doesn't let us have lawyers. tampering is when schiff doesn't let us have witnesses, doesn't let us speak. it's an embarrassment to our nation. >> reporter: other committee democrats have said that tweets amount to a crime and suggested that it could eventually be added as a charge to an impeachment case. arthel. arthel: thank you very much, allison. eric: we'll have more on that in a few molts. meanwhile, louisiana it's down to the wire in the governor's race there. the polls have been neck and
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neck in the runoff election that pits john bel edwards against eddie rispone who is trying to flip the governor's mansion to red. >> you have an incumbent, you have an outsider, conservative, someone who has never run before, someone who is not beholden to special interests, similar to what the president had to face when he ran. eric: casey siegal is outside a polling station now in baton rouge, hey, casey. >> reporter: hey, eric. a whole lot of momentum has been building up to this very day. louisiana saw a near record number of early voters in this runoff election. prior to the polls even opening today, about a half million ballots were already cast in this race. it's likely to account for a third or more potentially even of the total votes and it is 100,000 more than the number of early voters during last month's
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primary which spurred this whole runoff election today in the first place. hard to tell which candidate that could favor. the republican, eddie rispone, has vowed to get louisiana back to its conservative roots. the millionaire businessman has used president trump's support to his advantage in this red state. noting the similarities between himself and the president. meantime, the democratic incumbent governor here, john bel edwards, has campaigned largely on his record. he has been crisscrossing the state for the last several weeks, meeting with voters and drumming up additional support. >> louisiana is fundamentally and measurably better than it was four years ago. [ cheering and applause ] >> the size of our economy is the largest it has ever been. the unemployment rate is a 12
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year low. we're growing faster than any other state in the southeast of our country. >> reporter: the polls here in louisiana close at 8:00 tonight. that is 9:00 eastern time and from all accounts, it could be shaping up to be a real squeaker. back to you, eric. eric: the president's been there three times in the last month, trying to get all the support for mr. rispone. all right, casey, thank you. arthel. arthel: president trump grants clemency to two army officers, accused of war crimes, and restores rank to a navy seal. why some at the pentagon are expressing re reservation over e moves. s the most-awarded minivan three years in a row. the van just talked. sales guy, give 'em the employee price, then gimme your foot. hands-free sliding doors, stow 'n go seats, man, y'all getting a hook up and y'all don't even work here. pacificaaaaa!
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>> i think we woke up today, probably still incredibly stunned and awed by the president's generosity, the time that he spent with us on the phone. he was just incredibly sanguine, warm, demonstrated an amazing degree of nothing about the case and what had been going on. arthel: president trump granted clemency to two army officers accused of or convicted of war crimes. the president also restoring the rank of a navy seal convicted of posing for a photo with a dead
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isis fighter. but some pentagon officials saying the pardons could be setting a bad example for military members. lucas tomlinson is live in washington with more. lucas. >> reporter: arthel, major matt goldstein first came under scrutiny when applying for the cia. the army opened up a murder investigation two years after his interview with brett behr. >> did you find the suspected taliban bomb maker? >> we did capture a fighter and then id material, weapons, we recovered radios, small radio that's the taliban were using. so quite a bit of material. >> at the time, you think this is the guy? >> yeah, absolutely. >> did you kill the taliban bomb maker? >> yes. >> reporter: another army officer, lieutenant clint lawrence was freed last night after also receiving a presidential pardon. lawrence had been serving a six
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year sentence as part of a 19 year complete sentence for second degree murder in afghanistan after allegedly ordering his forces to open fire and killing two men on a motorcycle. president trump also ordered navy seal eddie gallagher's rank restored to chief petty officer after being found not guilty of murdering a he detained isis militant but guilty of a charge of posing with a dead isis fighter in the photograph. the pentagon responded to the decision. the department of defense has confidence in the military justice system, the president's part of the military justice system as the commander in chief and has the authority to weigh in on matters of this nature. in his first television interview, major goldstein spoke on "fox & friends" earlier today. >> i think it sends a clear signal that the president of the united states is paying attention, that he's not going to be backed off by institutional elements of the dod that are going to try to
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retain their ability to do certain things and force outcomes. >> reporter: i'm told defense secretary mark esper laid out the cases of all three men to give president trump the complete picture. arthel: thank you very much, lucas. another attack today as she was testifying from the president of the united states, it's just appalling. this is a part of a pattern to intimidate witnesses and it's also part of a pattern to obstruct the investigation. it was also a part frankly of the pattern to obstruct justice. eric: that is congressman adam schiff reacting to president trump's tweets attacking former ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch during her public impeachment testimony. the president tweeting, quote,
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everywhere marie yovanovitch turned bad. she started off in somalia, how did that go and fast forward to ukraine where the new ukraine president spoke unfavorably about him. it's a u.s. president's absolute right to appoint ambassadors. is that the president just speaking his mind or is there a charge of witness intimidation. mercedes cohen, and a criminal offense attorney, welcome to you both. the president said he is exercising his first amendment, this is a political process, he has every right to speak out but the democrats, could they use this as an article of impeachment. >> they could. i want to read the statute. it says whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens or corruptly pe persuades another person to influence, delay or prevent the testimony of any person in official capacity. the biggest issue here is
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intent. the statute, i've litigated regarding witness tampering. there was a issue camp up in a civil proceeding that i was involved in. it's rare but when it happens you have that statute. eric: does this meet this standard? >> the biggest defense that the president had to that was i didn't intend to do so. i was saying about this particular individual, that's of course the defense side. the pros you cu prosecutor sidee says if you try to intimidate someone, if the intent is is a essential component, but it's still an issue. eric: do you see the tweet as trying to influence someone or to try to influence everybody else about the person as she's testifying. >> i think it's trump being trump. it's more of the same. i don't think it rises to the level of witness intimidation under criminal law. people have to remember that impeachment doesn't have to be defined under the criminal law.
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high crime could be -- they could impeach the president for having bad hair. so this is a political thing. him going out and tweeting this, trying to get his base to support, i think it's too far a stretch for the democrats to say this is witness intimidation. what they should say is why is he attacking this woman, this career diplomat, this career public servant. shows you he's scared. instead of calling it witness intimidation, address it for what it is. it's a response that comes out of fear. >> let the congressman deal with the issue. if he wanted to confront this particular witness or any of the witnesseses in the process, let the congressmen come in, come forward, and cross-examine these individuals. they're there to render testimony. there's no issue with that. they could have brought that up during that hearing. eric: speaking of the members of congress, mark meadows talking about this issue. >> i don't know that it was an attack on the witness. it was really a characterization of her resume and when you look
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at this, when you look at this, you guys want him to go in with no attorneys, no witnesses, no twitter, no anything. you know, at some point you got to say when is it going to be a fair process and today was not a fair process in there. eric: what's going to happen next week, we'll have eight witnesses, will we have eight tweets, 24 tweets, 36 tweets? >> probably more than that. i think here for president trump, i mean, obviously he's never listened to his legal counsel and he has his way of doing things. for the democrats, they just have to keep pushing this, saying that this fits what ben franklin thought when talking about impeachment, that this is a political solution to prevent violence, prevent an executive who has been rendered or become obnoxious. in this case, when you're talking about a president of the united states conditioning aid to a country on investigating political rival, to me that fits the very definition of what high crimes could be under the
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impeachment rubric, not under criminal rubric. when democrats -- when republicans are talking about quid pro quo, that's a good strategy for them but the democrats have got to bring it back to say this isn't about straight bribery and just focus on -- eric: they're calling it bribery. the reports are, wall street journal and fox news confirming that the dncc that they've done focus groups to go from quid pro quo to bribery. mercedes, do you think that bribery would resonate? they say the polls show that bribery, that word resonates more with the american people more than quid pro quo. >> i think quid pro quo is a simple theory to influence individuals who are ultimately making the decision here. it is simple, it's this for that. this is something that the president was allegedly seeking in return for the aid. eric: it's not allegedly. he's in the phone call saying do use a favor. military aid is not mentioned. >> there is that, of course. but we're in the thick of it. we're finishing up the hearings.
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we'll see what the witnesses say. i think it's much simpler to proceed with that quid pro quo than it is for -- eric: here's what the wall street journal journal says about the issue of bribery. it says sorry but bribery requires a specific quid pro quo. mr. trump asked ukraine's president to investigate corruption. there was no quo. even if an investigation started it's unlikely to qualify as a quo under the bribery law because it isn't specific and the tangible benefit, like money, it doesn't qualify as bribery. they're just saying, and they point out in the editorial, that let's say they start an investigation and say hunter biden, barisma, they did nothing wrong, would that still fit the bill? >> i read that same opinion piece this morning. i think they're actually leaving out certain details of the timing of when things happened and the fact that you had the
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whistleblower and the fact that aid when it was known that there was going t going to be a whist, the aid was released, there's a lot of things not mentioning that. i think having latin phrase as the way to go, i think it's a political mistake for the democrats. it's a simple concept. >> it's a very simple concept. >> just say look, get something, the president shouldn't be holding military aid on basis of investigating political rivals. i think the terms are dangerous for the democrats. eric: mercedes. >> one thing about bribery. there was aid finally given. there may be that shift, right, i mean, if what we're talking about there was a delay in giving the aid, but the aid was finally given, maybe that's why there's a shift and saying well let's focus on quid pro quo, let's focus on bribery because you can follow the aid and the aid was given. eric: it's troubling if you have political consultants add viewinadvising them on this.
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that state's top four contenders are within a nine point margin of each other. that includes massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. senators amy klobuchar and elizabeth warren holding camp pain events in iowa today. two of the top tier iowa contenders, mayor pete and senator bernie sanders, are in california right now. meantime, wa warren announced a three year transition period to her $52 trillion medicare for all plan yesterday. her campaign says it would use incremental steps to reduce drug costs, use the base of obamacare to enroll more uninsured people and by the third year warren now says she would fight to pass legislation to complete the transition to full medicare for all. the california democratic party's falco fall conventions underway this weekendnd and duvall patrick is there. he officially entered the race on thursday and qualified for alabama's primary last week. now, patrick took the stage at
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the convention a few hours ago to a mixed reaction from the crowd. patrick says his late entry is not a commentary on the quality of the field. >> with due respect to the other candidates, many of whom are friends of mine, for me this isn't about the other candidates. it's not about conveniencing or inconveniencing them. it's about an american electorate which i am convinced is being poorly served by continutheincumbent. >> reporter: billionaire former new york city mayor michael bloomberg took first steps towards a presidential bid. he filed paperwork to become a presidential candidate in arkansas' democratic primary on tuesday. senator kamala harris' campaign touting the endorsement of the 10,000 member strong united farm workers union, a key endorsement for her struggling campaign, especially in the midst of the growing list of democratic
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presidential contenders. and harris and iowa's four top tier democratic contenders will all be on stage for the next democratic debate, which is this wednesday in atlanta. eric. eric: christina, thanks so much. arthel: if the house does vote to impeach president trump, the senate would hold a trial that could last for weeks, which would potentially tie up all six senators running for the democratic presidential nomination. that's because the six senators would have to remain on capitol hill while the trial is in session. and they would not be able to campaign in key battleground states, heading into primary season. let's bring in john fritzy now, a white house correspondent with usa today. and john, so how would that timing work for the republicans and is this a good gamble for the president and the gop? >> i mean, you can see why it might be a tempting strategy if there is a strategy here on the
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timing and i think a lot of that has to do with sort of the rules of how one of these trials would go down. these senators would essentially be chained to their desk for six days a week which is pretty unusual for anybody whos has ever watched a senate proceeding, they usually are not there. because they are jurors in a trial or would be jurors in a trial, they're limited to what they can talk about and so both of those things and other rules would have a real limiting impact on the senators who are candidates, even their ability to slip out to campaign in iowa for a weekend. a that being said, somewhat skeptical that there's a strategic point to this. i'm not convinced that the white house is is eager to draw out ts trial or change the schedule just to mess with what would really be the two most progressive candidates in the field, elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. obviously other candidates affected there too. but it would have the big impact
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on them. arthel: it would free up vice president joe biden. >> it would. it would. and maybe if it would hurt biden more, the calculation would be different. i don't know. i guess i'm a little skeptical that there's a strategic component to it. however, it is the case that if the house democrats wrap this thing up by christmas, which is kind of what we're thinking about at this point, that i think it's inevitable that it's going to play into the campaigning in iowa and new hampshire. arthel: meanwhile, president trump is laser focused on the impeachment hearings. we understand he's whipping gop senators, trying to co-less a defense and talking point. how can the white house influence the process? >> that's absolutely right. i think to date they have not been super engaged in it but i think that's beginning to change. we talked to some senior administration officials this week who told us that the president had personally reached out to some 40 senators to sort of lay out an initial case on this, sort of lay out the
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initial defense against these accusation that's are coming up over on the house side. that's a good sign for the white house and it's important because one of the first things that's going to happen here is a vote about sort of the procedures and the rules and the timeline and that is a simple majority vote. and mcconnell for republicans should have the votes to sort of play that his way but there are a few republican senators like mitt romney or susan collins who may be more sensitive to criticism of a show trial or trying to sort of jam it through. so i think mcconnell has sort of a limited wiggle room on that vote and so it makes sense for the white house to start engaging on it now. arthel: i want to play based on your answer to that, i want to play sound from allen fruman, a former senate parliament as ri a an, and he's saying if they delay the trial, should the house send articles of
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impeachment. >> i'm not aware there's a filibusterable situation in the trial. it's conceivable that in attempting to set up the ground rules for the trial in legislative session, which is what was done in the trial of bill clinton, that those resolutions outside of the trial in legislative session were subject to debate and theoretically could have been filibustered. arthel: i want to go ahead and wrap you up the segment, john. next week a blockbuster week in the impeachment hearings. will president trump live tweet? what's the backlash from his live tweeting this t past week? you've got dems and some republicans describing it as witness intimidation. >> there was a lot of backlash to his tweet of ambassador yovanovitch and questions about whether that was witness intimidation. i think it's been interesting watching the president's tweet which i do as a white house reporter during the impeachment issue. there's some days where he doesn't engage at all and there have been days where he has engaged. some of this tweets have been
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mostly retweets and there was one instance i noticed where he did a bunch of retweet as we was on stage. some of those tweets were staff, not him. clearly the one at yovanovitch seemed liminlike it would be hi. it's hard to predict what his strategy is. we'll be watching very closely to see if he weighs in in real-time in a very busy week of very critical testimony. arthel: john fritzy, usa today, thank you. >> thank you. eric: chinese troops are boots on the ground for the first time in hong kong. why they say they're there and why that excuse is being met by some with skepticism. saturdays happen.
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let's bring in naval intelligence officer, john jordan. we saw the video of the troops. they're in t-shirts, armed with not rifles but brooms, cleaning up debris from the protests. is that a troubling development and a he potential signal about what could come from beijing? >> yes, it is a troubling development. it's incremental, beijing imposing incremental pressure on the protesters in hong kong. article 14 of hong kong's basic law requires that liberation army troops stay in their bar racks unless requested for suppressing civil disorder or national disasters. now, china is calling this cleanup. that's why you saw pictures of them with buckets. what beijing is doing is incrementally raising the pressure, the temperature on the protesters in hong kong. eric: as you said, suppressing civil disorder. couldn't that be used as an excuse then to deal with the protesters who are basically
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vying and trying to speak up for democracy and have beijing keep its hands off as it was promised of hong kong? >> exactly. what china is doing here is slowly cooking the frog. eric, this is all being driven by internal chinese politics. the one country, two systems is a huge embarrassment to the communist party of china. here you have a per capita gdp of hong kong which is five times that of the mainland. hong kong draws all manner of p capital and talent that would otherwise be available to mainland china. this is difficult for all of the bureaucracy, the state-owned enterprises and bureaucracies inside of the chinese communist apparat, make its politically difficult and awkward for president xi. he's under considerably pressure to bring hong kong out of the one country, two systems. at the same time, they don't want a big political disaster of chinese troops, another tiananmen square, if you will. the key to understanding this is
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economics and the power struggles inside of china. eric: we saw that horrific video of a protesters being shot basically point blank by a police officer, a 21-year-old student tragically died. he fell during one of the protests. i mean, do you think this sadly could get worse and do you think it potentially could lead to a tiananmen square moment, unless beijing backs off? >> it could very well lead to another tiananmen square moment. china wants to avoid that at all costs. china wants to cultivate a better image and not have public opinion in the west being further supportive of tariffs and economic sanctions on china. china wants to avoid that. but the same time, they want to negate the embarrassment of the success of hong kong's free market system in comparison to china's mainland system and the enormous economic disparity on a gdp basis between those two systems inside of china. eric: what do you think the u.s. could do, the president who
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is reported to have kept quiet over this, not to endanger the trade deal. when should he speak up forcefully? should he? what do you think the white house should do? >> well, the white house wants to be very careful here because they very much want a deal with china and china is very protective of what it perceived to be sovereignty and dignity. that is less understood and weighted than it ought to be. you don't want to back president sh intxi intosuch a position wht make the deal. you want to match the rhetoric with chinese actions inside of hong kong. at the same time, china is trying to avoid a political disaster while furthering its ultimate goal of bringing hong kong back into the communist fold. eric: do you think would ever be realistic, to bring hong kong back into the communist fold as you just said?
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>> i don't know if anybody knows that for sure. i tend to think not, eric. because of the enormous traditions of independence and freedom inside of hong kong. i do think the protesters will stand their ground and it remains to be seen how far president xi is willing to go to do that, vis-a-vis the domestic political pressures inside of beijing. eric: you talk about the fact that they would potentially try to do this, would not be successful doing it. what about the money and the trade because hong kong is such a generator of that. that certainly would entice beijing to try and make some moves despite what the international community would say. >> absolutely. but a big bloody suppression of hong kong would be a political and economic disaster for china. i don't know that they're going to be able to bring them into the fold without a big blood-letting. president xi may be looking for some way out of this in the near term. eric: what way out could that be?
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i mean, look, if there's more trouble, some of the wealthy people in hong kong could flee. you've got brave students in the street, fighting for freedom, fighting for the dignity of hong kong. >> exactly. i think president xi needs a window mess particularly inside of china in terms of keeping his own house in order. believe it or not, he's not autocratic. he's susceptible to the enormous bureaucracy inside of china. he needs a big win if he's able to walk this back or step this down. and that may end up being a trade deal. the two are inner-related. he needs a big window mess particularlparticular win dom. eric: some of the he protesters, the brave students carry american flags on the streets as they try and protect that democracy. john jordan, always good to see you. thank you. >> thank you, eric. arthel: british royal prince andrew speaking out about his
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>> it was the fact that once he had been convicted, i stayed with him. that's the bit that as it were i kick myself for on a daily basis. arthel: jacqui heinrich has more from our newsroom. >> reporter: prince andrew delivered a lot of i don't remembers in his first interview about the allegations. he challenged whether this photograph showing him with his accuser is real. he didn't go so far to say the image was photo shopped. he said it's taken in a part of the house he doesn't remember being in and as a member of the royal family he doesn't often pose for photos, especially showing any public affection. he suggested the hand around his accuser's waist may not be his. virginia roberts claimed jeffrey epstein paid her $15,000 to have sex with the british royal when she was under age, 17 years old. he says he doesn't remember ever meeting her, despite the photo.
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>> she says she met you in 2001. she says she dined with you, danced with you at trump nightclub in london, she went on to have sex with you in a house in bellgravia, belonging to your friend. your response? >> i have no recollection of ever meeting this lady. none whatsoever. >> reporter: prince andrew also answered questions about why he decided to stay with epstein at his new york mansion even two years after epstein was convicted of soliciting a minor for prostitution. andrew said that choice was unbecoming a member of the royal family. in new york it appears federal prosecutors plan to charge the guards who were supposed to keep watch over etch steyn before he killed himself in jail. the associated press is reporting two guards were offered plea deals but turned it down. investigators said guards failed to check on epstein every half hour as required and falsified log records to cover it up. part of the plea deal would have
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required the guards to admit that. more than 20 prison employees were subpoenaed in a probe over how epstein was left alone long enough to take his own life. especially after he had been at one time on suicide watch. arthel. arthel: thank you so much. eric: violent clashes erupt in paris yet again, yellow vest protesters taking to the streets to mark one year since the beginning of the unrest there. we'll have the latest details next. this is the most-awarded minivan three years in a row. the van just talked. sales guy, give 'em the employee price, then gimme your foot. hands-free sliding doors, stow 'n go seats, man, y'all getting a hook up and y'all don't even work here. pacificaaaaa! and my lack of impulse control,, is about to become your problem. ahh no, come on. i saw you eating poop earlier. hey! my focus is on the road, and that's saving me cash with drivewise. who's the dummy now? whoof!
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violence erupting in the streets of fans. protesters staged national wide demonstrations to mark one year since starting the movement for economic reform. vandalizing buildings and setting cars on fire. police responded with tear gas and water cannons. more from london. the protest movement in france has been going on for exactly year now but people are still angry about economic positions in the country they demonstrations took place across the country but there was some right police their used water cannons to push back protesters. demonstrators tried to break windows in shopping malls and some of the crowds attacked a bank. protesters threw stones and bottles at police and set fire
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to cars and police in paris said they would deal firmly with any troublemakers and around 100 people were arrested. there were several hundred protesters trying to block a major road around paris and police pushed them back. they entered project did area for me city center. up to 300,000 people took to the streets at one time and those protest often turned violent to the government has made concessions since then in the protest have become much smaller until this saturday. with many of these issues still unresolved the protest movement is likely to continue. national strike is also planned for december 5. back to you. >> thank you kitty logan and that does it for us. we will be back here tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern. we hope to see you then. >> we will begin tomorrow our investigation and continue into what happened to jimmy hoffa.
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what we found out, a new climate who killed him and where he could be buried. the great hoffa expert will be here with new information also on fox nation. thank you for joining us. >> a work in and on capitol hill as lawmakers hold a saturday deposition in the intelligence committee released the transcripts from two more close door interviews but i'm jon scott and this is "the fox report". jon: mark zandi becomes the first official from the federal budget office to testify an impeachment inquiry. house investigators issued a subpoena this morning to ensure he would show up as they pressed for details on the timeline of military aid to ukraine. as a second closed-door deposition in as many days. after state department official david holmes testified yesterday it comes on the heels of public testimony from three witnesses this week which republicans claim is all hearsay
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