and let the viewers decide. we started out that way. we will continue being that way. good night. ♪ >> jesse: hello, everybody, i'm jesse watters, 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." it's a big week for adam schiff and democrats running the impeachment spectacle. after the hearsay sham failed to deliver, they are now set the call eight new witnesses over the next few days. and then simple lucy taunting president trump, daring him to testify. check this out. speak of the president can come right before the community and speak all the truth he wants. he could do it in writing. he has every opportunity to

defend his case. but it really is a sad thing. what the president did is so much worse than what even richard nixon did. >> jesse: president trump saying he likes the idea and would strongly consider it. trump is calling out witnesses over the weekend. pelosi responding with this cheap shot. >> he should not frivolously throughout insults, but that's what he does. i think part of it is his own insecurity as an imposter. i think he knows full well that he's in that office way over his head and so he has to diminish everyone else. >> jesse: wow, imposter but while pelosi and schiff plow ahead, one democrats warning that the parties impeachment obsession is calling dominic tearing the country apart. speak what i'm hearing is that they are kind of tired, they are

worn out, they are bored. we spent millions of dollars, in my opinion, tons of money, tons of time, tons of hurt, fracturing the nation apart. i don't see this to be a good thing. >> jesse: i you hearing these on the street, dana? >> dana: i don't really go out. i think i spoke to a total of five humans in 48 hours. the last week, i was quiet but read a lot. i write a novel. and i watched a little bit of the coverage so i could keep on top of things. i feel like going into this second week, the democrats already have the burden of proof and it's a really high one. last week i don't think they met it because even from their own admission, the own coverage, their own headlines, a lot of the coverage or if you listen to some of the podcasts where they are talking about how the democrats felt after wednesday's testimony in particular, guys, are we going to be able to keep

it going, they continue to tell the same story over and over and over again. it's a short period of time. i think the people coming to the consensus is this is not impeachable. whether you thought it was appropriate or not, there is an election happening in less than 12 months from now and that's what people should make the decision. that's where things are at the moment. >> jesse: they could've handled this with an oversight hearing. >> greg: i was actually on the street. >> dana: looked like you slipped there. >> greg: it was a rough weekend. i talked to a lot of people. 4,000 people. i will tell you this. we may be required to air, thro.

and then they scold you for not genuflecting before the altar of solemn news for this is historical, they tell you. no, this is hysterical. the resentment the media holds for anyone who doesn't swallow their garbage is usually given metaphorical finger. to take the anti-kavanaugh mob seriously beer they've been wrong every time. it's been all garbage. by the way, our ratings are great so i think we can say this but we can take one for the team. then page watch the rockford files, " speak how about "person of

interest." when you said that they haven't met their burden of proof yet, here's the bottom of line for they shifted the burden of proof. nancy pelosi gets out there and says, mr. president, come in and prove your innocence pair this is america. you don't shift the burden of proof, even though we don't know what he's accused of, we know we are going to get him. john dean shed helmick said, he should have been impeached the first day. are you stupid? you are a lawyer. he hasn't done anything yet. these people say he should come in and prove something, truth the power. they are not nuts, they are bonkers. we haven't stopped giving them press on this stuff because nobody cares. it's a bunch of hogwash. it's a bunch of telephone. it's a bunch of rumors, hearsay, get over it.

>> dana: i think is important to cover it so you can actually call them out on either side. if you don't do that, there is only one thing. >> jesse: so don't watch "the rockford files." juan, would you respond? >> juan: yes. i did get the impression what the right is saying here, please don't watch. don't pay attention to impeachment that you'd be smart to go watch whatever. here is what the reality is. the reality is abc new poll, they think the president requesting a foreign leader get there on his political rivals is wrong. >> greg: how the question is framed, one william zelnick. >> juan: 51% from a majority of americans saying the only impeached trump but remove him. get this. 21% in this abc poll are saying

they aren't playing that much attention. that should please. the people who were paying attention for the first week, at 66%. two-thirds said impeach and remove. >> jeanine: do you know what they are doing? they are doing so they don't have to pay for potato have to buy apical ad for they are trashing the guy. >> juan: stop! >> jeanine: don't tell me to stop. do not go there! [cross talk] they don't know what they are doing! >> jesse: i want to jump in for one thing because you mention these polls and we have poll showing that 77% of democrats think trump is a russian agent that there's a lot of people out there brainwashed -- >> juan: brainwashed... >> greg: do you know what

trump is suffering from? for employment. he has the lowest unemployment in history, so the people who are working can't watch the hearings but he's hurt himself -- so many americans are back to work they can't watch the brainwashed going on. he should have a terrible economy so they can all watch the impeachment hearings. >> juan: you can watch it from jail, roger stone, paul manafort, your best people in jail. >> jesse: even colin kaepernick is looking for a job. >> juan: that's a good one. >> jesse: i want to get back to what we're talking about earlier about the people in this country, or fatigue. even independents have tuned this out. "the new york times," they don't even know what to believe anymore after the russia collusion thing. >> dana: i'd like to bring up that "new york times" piece. basically it said that there is so much information, too much information, and the body is

understanding, following the whole story. nobody trusts the media. i shouldn't say nobody -- >> greg: nobody trusts the media. >> dana: 65% of liberals, that's a pretty low number. basically what it said is there has been so much stuff there and against the wall that people are not paying attention to any of it and they are figuring they'll just wait until the end, find somebody they trust, read a couple of places they feel they can believe in, and make a decision at that point. my mom, she's in santa fe, they are touring. they aren't paying attention to this stuff. >> jeanine: all the evidence is in the transcript! you don't need anything else. it's the best record of what happened. >> jesse: joe biden says no to legalizing weed. mike bloomberg already apologizing. and mayor pete searching for it all in our 20s when you round

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>> dana: welcome back. time for our 2020 roundup. joe biden mucking up the democratic field when it comes to biden is saying not so fast. >> the truth of the matter is, there has not been enough evidence that has been acquired as to whether or not it is a gateway drug. it's a debate. and i want a lot more before i legalize it nationally. >> dana: has a debate passed him by? the gateway drug, greg... >> greg: it's bizarre that

he's against pot because it sounds like he's on it. when he talks it sound like he's trying to recite the plot from a movie he saw wasted a year ago. i would argue that marijuana, which i don't use, is the exact opposite of a gateway drug because pot smokers usually begin with pot and end with pot. it's a filter against other things. they have seen that in studies. it's a the real gateway drugs alcohol. people get drunk and below is a inhibition to try other drugs like cocaine, meth, special k, ecstasy, glue... sometimes glue. i saw a no idea what that is for people at home, if you know what i'm talking about. i do not think it's a whippet. grams has got to get out of the way

race. >> dana: his poll numbers are still higher numbers and they agree with him helmick order >> jeanine: doesn't know where he is in any given moment. i think the whole idea that there is more idea that needs to be developed, this has been developed for the last 50 years and if you want to talk about what is a gateway, it's milk. we all start on milk. >> jesse: mad cows ! >> jessejesse colin band cows ! >> jeanine: the issue is the thc level and how high it is. the higher th it is, the more addictive it can be. >> jesse: i know two-thirds of the countries for legalization, but the one demographic that is against it, anybody over 65.

all the swing states are older people. florida, pennsylvania, michigan. >> greg: in the '60s, they were all smoking dope! >> dana: they are in these states like florida, colorado, in california that are basically legalizing it. is joe biden behind the times? >> juan: it's authentic for a man who is 76. he is in the position that seems to be not politically expedient because as we pointed out here, younger people actually vote on this issue. this is an issue that gets younger people to the polls. it is authentic as i said because i think he grew up in a time where they were things like "reefer madness," degenerates in attics... i will say this. period he's for medical marijuana. he's for not putting people in jail for marijuana.

he's the only democrat who has not supported national legalization. he's being himself. he's being joe biden. >> dana: he's being himself, but what about the next one? former new york city mayor mike bloomberg is doing a flip-flop on stop and frisk and saying he's sorry for the policy. >> i did not understand the full impact that the stops were having on black and latino communities. i was totally focused on saving lives. >> dana: it wasn't long ago when bloomberg was mocking democrats for applied using for pretty much everything. >> is not going to work on a national level unless i was willing to change all my views and go on what cnn called an apology tour. joe biden went out and apologized for being male, over 50, white, beto -- whatever his name is pete he apologized for being born. >> dana: judge, what do you

think? >> jeanine: when you talk about it in the '80s, there were 2500 people killed a year in ththe new new york city. the law enforcement and the relationship with the police, when somebody incomes that come apart of nypd's district, some captains that we've got to do more stop and frisk. what they did is they set up a minimum number so they worked stopping and frisking all the time. the united states supreme court has said that stop and frisk, unless you have some reasonable suspicion, is okay. they were saying it so much, you are in and frisking on park avenue, only doing it in bad style for the reason was is there were so many homicides in that stye and they got out of control. it is a legitimate fall enforcement law enforcement tour. >> the police organization came out and said it was wrong all

along. but here is the thing about it. isn't it transparent? he's running and he's done this? talk about expedient. it seems to me everybody gets to evolve for a if he generally changed, what i see is a guy who said, you know what, i did the black vote, i need the latino vote. >> dana: jesse, will he get any of those? >> jesse: it doesn't matter, he's not going to win. i say apologizing shows weakness? i like it. stop and frisk didn't work. it was too much power of the government. 880% of the time when they used it, they were innocent. >> juan: more than that. >> greg: i think ideas change change on the circumstances when time changes. what the judge was talking about, it was necessary for high crime areas like bed stuy, jamaica queens, brooklyn -- it

was about gangs. there was a period of time where it was necessary, it was proactive. now unfortunately, we are reactive in new york city. we are waiting for the crime to happen and it's happening. >> dana: we did not have time for mayor pete. i'm sure this week, jesse is going to show you. >> greg: t to go against to bloomberg, his new motto should be "yes we cannabis." >> dana: former president obama calling out 2020 democrats for going far to left. when we come back on the "five." - that means the dollar is only worth about 68¢ now compared to 2000. had you owned gold, your value would have increased over 400% and owning gold is easy... with rosland capital - a trusted leader in helping people acquire precious metals.

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>> juan: former president obama out with a warning to 2020 democrats. "the new york times" reporting while speaking to liberal donors, barack saying, i'm quoting, even as he pushed the

envelope and bold in our vision, we also have to be rooted in reality. the average american doesn't think we have to complete tear down the system and remake it." some candidates like bernie sanders, taking issue with obama was comments. >> depends what you mean by tear down the system but when i talk about the living wage, i'm not tearing down the system. when i talk about health care being a human right and ending the embarrassment of america being the only major country on earth that does not guarantee health care to every man, woman, child, that's not tearing down the system. >> juan: jesse, i think bernie is the tear down the system ended it on the left but do you know who is the tear down the system candid and the right? trump. >> i think trump sees the system as reagan went with the american worker. the democrats see the system as a rake and they want to tear

down the whole system to make it work for democrats. that's the difference. to be told that you are too crazy to be a democrat, that's pretty crazy. that's like being kicked out of the hells angels. obama is the most radical president we've ever had. and you're saying too radical for the cause? that's like colin kaepernick telling other players to stop kneeling for that's like donald trump telling people, lay off the twitter, it's a little too much. it's crazy! barack obama took this country so far left so quickly that he gave us trump! and he gave the republicans control of the house and the senate. in the country is looking around, what just happened. i think barack obama knows at this point what the people of this country want, and it's not a revolution. it's an evolution. >> jeanine: i think it's not so much, jesse, that he doesn't buy into it. if he realizes that america is not going to buy into it and

he's afraid that donald trump is going to get reelected again and it's coming out now for the first time saying, hey, wait, i think patrick devol is his candidate, i think it's ironic -- >> juan: deval patrick. >> greg: it should be patrick devol. >> jeanine: it's interesting he comes out at the same time deval patrick comes out. >> juan: is he defending his legacy here? >> dana: when this primary season started a couple of months ago he said he's got a chance to be either a peacemaker or a kingmaker when it comes to what could possibly be a contested convention coming up. i do think though that he has now been supplanted. it's almost as if time moves so quickly that now barack obama is so far in the past that the party has passed him by and if you have someone like bernie sanders who is taking on the most popular democrat in the

country, which is barack obama still, and his numbers don't go up very much. biden has been consistent all the way through, but i do think it's really amazing that barack obama has chosen to be pretty quiet. he went -- i do not think it was tied to deval patrick but he went to the event friday night, signed if the alarm that they do not want to listen to him. that's pretty remarkable going into 2020, when he is on the ballot, they are saying, thank you mr. president, we appreciate what you did that we are going to take it from here. >> juan: greg, one of the things president trump likes to say, they are so far left, socialist, communist, all that. but i look at the numbers and i think this is picking up on dana's point, i see joe biden consistently leading the field, i see pete buttigieg rising in iowa, and i put both of them in the moderate barack obama lane. >> greg: it's interesting for

what you're seeing here, racism. you see bernie, old white man going after a young black man, and you see a party embracing old white men like biden and bloomberg, and bernie. this is a party of right white racism going after a black man and i can't believe we are g this out there this to be happen if somebody had done this -- anyway, obama realizes his party needs clarity and direction. you know your party is in trouble, your greatest living leader is embarrassed by you. the louder wing of his party is probably going to call them a member of the outright for doing what he's doing. i do not think it's bernie who is leader of the party. i think it is aoc. and aoc has got the charisma. i think -- he is her spiritual leader, but she is the heir apparent.

>> juan: aoc is heir apparent? >> greg: she is there trouble. it's going to happen 4-8 years. >> jesse: they want to take away 180 million people's health care and barack took away temporarily 10 million people and put them on the public option and all hell broke loose and the democrats lost a thousand seats. >> juan: that separates biden and buttigieg from warren and sanders. obama comes in and says, you can't just -- i know, i've been president. i know how hard it is to make a change. >> dana: president obama may not have the he used to have in order to get biden across the nomination line. >> juan: we don't know, right placement last week they were saying to me that is of the case that obama is backing deval patrick! >> dana: i was just asking. >> greg: will he come out for

deval patrick? >> juan: there is friendly. >> dana: if he does, it will be until the contested convention. >> jesse: maybe he's got sleepy just back. >> greg: my prediction, buttigieg, klobuchar. >> juan: i'm really upset for marion wilson marianne williamson. facing massive backlash about speaking his ties to jeffrey epstein. reactions to the stunning interview straight ahead on "five." on the five. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it - with hassle-free claims, he got paid before

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defending his friendship with the sex offender and making these outrageous claims. >> you stayed at the house with l neck of a convicted sex offender. >> it was a convenient place to say. the fact that he >> he was a sex offender. >> i'm being polite. he was a sex offender. >> jeanine: also answered questions with this photo within 17-year-old prince andrew now claims the photo could be fake. >> she provided a photo of the two of you together. your arm was around her waist. >> i have absolutely no memory of that photo ever being taken. >> your friend suggested that the photo is fake. >> you can't prove whether or not that photograph is faked or

not. >> jeanine: i think it's fascinating. someone who dealt with a lot of fake things as a prosecutor. i love that he says, unequivocally, you can't prove whether it's fake. where does he come up with that? is that his preemptive defense? >> greg: that was a really stupid choice of his to do that interview to claim that he has a medical condition that prevents him from sweating due to ptsd from being shot at during the falklands? >> jeanine: i want you to hear him actually say that. we have some sound on that. >> she went on to have slight -- >> there is a slight problem with the sweating. i have a peculiar medical condition which is, where i don't sweat -- i didn't sweat at the time. >> jeanine: i love that he

said, "a slight problem with sweating because i have a peculiar medical condition," name unknown which is i don't sweat, or i didn't sweat at the time. >> jeanine: he read: he doesn't sweat or hug people. he also has terrible amnesia -- can we stop acting like realty is anything special? can this be the silver bullet that kills all of our royalty coverage so anybody gets pregnant or married, we do not have to do nonstop coverage? they are a weird family on welfare essentially. >> jeanine: dana, what about the fact that he stated epstein's place even though we knew he was a sex offender, he didn't call him that. because it was convenient. >> dana: not only that, he said he was being a very audible person as he is, he was trying to honor their friendship because he felt bad for epstein? one of the favorite thing is the public opposition

relations person resignbefore te knew it would be this bad. also shows the royal family seems to be so when the bubble that they have no idea how they come across and they believe, i do not know, convicted. he made it so much worse. >> jeanine: when he said he didn't call epstein a pedophile, he didn't know that all these young women were around there, they had video of him with young women coming out of the house, they have video of him with virginia, why do you think he even did this interview? >> jesse: that's a great question. maybe he's being i was expecting him to be like, i went out for a sandwich. and these two guys push me into epstein's mansion for that's how unbelievable it was but i don't know if he's guilty. i don't know if he's innocent. i do know he wing to the interview, and how cocky do you have to be to throw out a bunch

of alibis? you think if you run an alibi like that by a lawyer before you ran it up there and put it on national television. >> juan: that's exactly the issue. he's got the legal issue and he's got this so-called political issue. him being a member of the royal family. he's got the p.r. person who quit whoever it was before the interview. but people are now demanding in the u.k. that he speak to the fbi, he speaks to the districts of new york and what i'm dying to know, juan, whether or not the coconspirators who got that immunity is prince andrew. >> juan: you think he has immunity? >> jeanine: part of the deal that epstein got who was the prosecutor and the secretary of the department of labor is there is a whole group of people who have it in perpetuity that could never be opened. >> jeanine: may be one of

them. that's what i was thinking. >> juan: i don't know. if that's the case, the story is on the ending. i was taken by his use of the word unbecoming. unbecoming? holy smokes! that's how they spoke over the there? >> jesse: charles manson was very unbecoming. >> jeanine: the sad part about it is he never talked about the victim. >> juan: is incredible to see the pictures today in the news pictures of him surrounded with young women with their tongues out. >> jeanine: up next, conde west creating a lot of buzz after showing up at joel osteen's megachurch. i'm your curious cat, and you know what they say about curiosity. it'll ruin your house. so get allstate and be better protected from mayhem, like meow.

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the trend, the shift is going to change. i told you about my arrogance and cockiness already. now the greatest artist that god has ever created is now working for him. >> greg: was that a jab at me, juan? obviously i believe this is a sincere conversion. >> juan: are you serious? >> greg: you don't think so? i think he's giving himself over to god, right? how could you not see that? i know you treat him with cynicism, but i believe it when i see it. i can't doubt him. i can't read his mind. >> juan: i can read marketing ploy and i think he's using this moment with joel osteen in a way that appeals to a new market. to me, it's interesting.

i've long been a critic of hip-hop because i did not like the use of the letter and the and it striking to me. a lot of people on the right say they agree, hip-hop often times, it seems especially for young people to push them in a very negative place. oh, you are real if you've been in jail and all that. but because he's embracing trump and because he's talking in these terms, a lot of the people on the right say kanye west, kanye west -- to me, this is camilla, convenient, and i'd urge people to be cautious about it. >> greg: this is the opposite of convenient. he is sacrificing a lot of his musical background, his stardom -- she's actually spending the capital, right? >> dana: he hasn't really talked about trump much in the last eight months and stuff. one of the things you learn in

the bible, i can't judge you before i judge myself. i can't read his mind or his heart, but i can take this course of forthe possibility that fame and celebrity make you very lonely. lots of people turn to things that hurt them or harm them or harm their families. could even lead to overdoses or suicides. he went a different way. he found redemption, forgiveness, grace through christianity. and then worshiped their music, can be very powerful. it's a great way for humans to worship together. who knows where this leads? i'm actually pretty excited about it because he knows he'll be fine. the thing is all these people that are listening and watching, maybe it turns their heart.

>> jeanine: one of the things that's interesting, i had a mental breakdown. that was a thing for me where i said, i get it. when you have a mental breakdown, you've lost everything. you have no one to hold onto. you lose faith in yourself. when he said that, i realize he did find god and what you're saying is so true, to get other people to talk about god in a country that's moving away from god. i'm not someone who's always talking religion, i'm catholic, i believe in god and all that stuff. we have gone so far away from that. i applaud him for that. whatever his motivation is -- i'm not here to judge -- >> greg: who are you to judge, judge? >> jeanine: thank you for being the vehicle and the bully pulpit to get people at least think about religion. >> greg: jesse, asking about fakeness, i know it offends you

deeply. >> jesse: greg's belief in god you can't put in words. i'm just along for the ride. i liked kanye before he put the mega hat it's good for the sole and good for business. they had 40,000 people in this event. it's a trump rally there, 13 million people watching it and, dana, he's now your neighbor. the second ranch, he purchased in wyoming. >> dana: he's going to make his shoes up there. >> juan: such humility that he calls himself the greatest artist god ever created. >> greg: he said god created. one more thing up next.

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sit down for thanksgiving next week. but keep in mind november is also national adoption month. what do these three people have in common, folks? jamie foxx, marilyn monroe, steve jobs, all adopted or grew up in foster care. on saturday, the washington, d.c., superior court celebrated 33 years of d.c. adoption, 47 children were adopted at this year's celebration. as you can see it was a joyous event. thousands of children are waiting for adoption or foster care right now. right now, adopt usa's website has 5,000 children registered as in need of a safe permanent home. more than 100,000 children in foster care nationally waiting to be adopted. a third of those children, by the way, under 12, most little boys. so if there's room in your life, your heart, your house, please think about foster care or adoption. >> very good. dana. >> so the holden police department in maine recognized breast cancer awareness month and a very special way.

last month they defused a specially made pink badge, so it's right here in the bag was born on duty by my friend, the chief of the department. chief chris greatly and that the months and they rattled off the bat. whole bunch of tickets he put my name. i got bid on -- like to talk to him on his radio show itself. i won the badge. here i am. this is chief holden police and this raffle benefited sarah's house and holden now provides cancer patients with a place to stay during treatment, so thank you to achieve greatly and to everybody up there in holden. >> we have to follow you around and take your orders? >> that would be situation normal. >> greg. >> my podcast came out today. you can find it on twitter or just google "got felled podcast." it's with the great mathematical physicist, economist, managing director eric weinstein. it's an hour of talking about all the major problems of the world. it's going to blow your mind, and now let's do this quickly.

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and torture. pass congress and the president is going to sign it, first federal bill on animal cruelty. >> so he can do something, that's good to hear. set your dvrs, never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is up next with brett. who is that? >> bret: thanks. good evening and welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. breaking tonight, we're just hours away of the next installment of the public impeachment testimony. we will have full coverage and analysis in a few minutes, but first, we now know when we will learn details of the justice department inspector general's report on the origins of the russia collusion investigation and the fisa request that fueled it. senate judiciary committee chairman lindsey graham saying tonight doj inspector general michael horowitz will testify before his committee on wednesday december 11th. correspondent kevin corke is live at the white house now with our top story. good evening, kevin. >> evening, bret. an amazing develop meant when you considerhe