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rob: meth, we're on it. despite the backlash hey twitter the whole point is to raise awareness so i think it's working. jillian: okay. rob: they are on meth in south dakota. jillian: tell us what you think. have a good day. steve: 6:00 in new york city. we start with a fox news alert. an american and professor just released by the taliban in afghanistan as part of a prisoner swap. brian: kevin king and kevin 4r50e67 were freed in afghanistan after being held hostage in 2016. both of them worked at american university of afghanistan. ainsley: the afghan government released three taliban commanders in qatar. steve: he has done his best to release hostages. shortly after they were taken hostage in 2016. auto navy seal team went in and thought they had the exact location. missed them by a couple of hours. and then in april of this
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year, once again, another rescue was attempted. they missed them again. brian: i'm sorry, go ahead. ainsley: personal is from pennsylvania. his family has already flown to germany. these two individuals are going to be flown to a hospital in germany because they have deteriorating health, they are said to have deteriorating health two. years ago the taliban said our guy, mr. king, was suffering from dangerous heart and kidney problems. brian: you understand the tough situation and one of the people he gave up. last name haqqani who are as bad as it gets. meanwhile. ainsley: you are talking about the three taliban commanders. one of them is the younger brother of the taliban's deputy leader last name is haqqani. support of the haqqani network which the u.s. distinguished as a terror group. steve: held for three years and now they're on their way home. that is great news. meanwhile, another fox news alert. out of capitol hill. there is the dome right there where week two, day three of the public impeachment inquiry hearings
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will start just about three hours. exactly three hours from right now. ainsley: four of the witnesses will appear before the house intelligence committee today. brian: everything we just said griff jenkins knows already he joins us from the long worth house building. we gave you the easy stuff, you tell us the detail. >> let me give it to you. brian, steve, ainsley good morning. we have nine witnesses or three day days last week this weetoday youwill get four. the extensive questioning. 45 minutes each side will happen followed by the five minute member rounds. here is who we hear from first convincedman ukraine expert. jennifer williams special advisor to vice president pence. both were on that july 25th phone call central to this entire impeachment process. both testified behind closed doors that the will president's call was unusual and concerning.
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vindman said no doubt in his mind the president was demanding an investigation. williams called it inappropriate. note that vindman is a central figure in the democrats' case against the president. then this afternoon, you will have special envoy kurt volker nsca a. transcripts from undersecretary of state political affairs david hail and david holmes. he is the ukrainian embassy aid to ambassador bill taylor who told lawmakers that he overheard the phone call between the president and ambassador sondland and sondland used saul tri use psaly language. the president doesn't give an about holmes being called in to testify thursday. he is the newest edition to this list. of course, tomorrow, ambassador sondland will take the hot seat. we're very fascinated to see what he has to say. one firework that we may see, guys, just to pay attention this morning with colonel convincedman and
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that is, he, of course, questioning shut down during the closed door some republicans asking him if he was the whistleblower because twice he raised concerns about the president's policy in ukraine. guys? steve: all right. so is the president going to testify today because i know that was the thing that he daca gelled out there on -- dangled out there on twitter. maybe i will talk to them. >> he tweeted he believed did he nothing wrong and strongly considering it. no new developments except for several republicans on this committee saying they are not so sure that's a good idea. steve: i think that's an understatement. griff, thank you very much. brian: i would say it's unlikely. steve: i would say so too. ainsley: jim jordan says i don't care how many witnesses they call the facts never changed. we all read the transcript. both leaders said there was no pressure, there was no pushing. ukraine didn't know money was being withheld and the president, president zelensky never promised or
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agreed to investigate. steve: right. lieutenant colonel convincedman is one of the democrats' line of questioning according to the "the washington post" this morning. this is one of the first guys we have heard of who was actually on the phone. he was so freaked out by what the president said that he went directly, to you know, according to his supervisor, mr. morrison. he jumped the line of commands and that's one of the things that the republicans are going to show today how different people on the calls reacted differently than mr. vindman. >> he was upset with sondland because he felt sondland was pushing for ukraine to investigate bide. he thought it was inappropriate. brian: special advisor for the vice president. she wrote down in realtime burisma. that was not on the transcript. that could be controversial.
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ron johnson, he has dealt directly with the lieutenant colonel. he said something in his opening comments that needs to be looked at. vindman said and testified that rudy giuliani was pushing for a policy that was inconsistent with the consistent view us of the relative agencies and undermining the consensus policy. wait a second american foreign policy is what the president determines it to be. it's not the consensus. that's fundamentally where the rubblier hits the road with a lot of views on the right is the president, the secretary of state, and the people that surrounds the president maybe had a different view than the state department maybe fundamentally not only democrats against republicans. this is state department against the white house. ainsley: we have had a lot of republicans say this. contradictions. some council that addictions it's hearsay in his opinion. steve: deep state was floated out there as well. the president of the united states has referred to mr. vindman who will testify today as a never trumper. congressman doug collins who sits on this committee says
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the founding fathers looked in the crystal ball and they warned against any sort of impeachment that was politically based. >> this is what the founding fathers actually warped us against was a political impeachment you go after them because you don't like them or you don't like their politics. this is a probable we have to face. the american people need to see this clearly for what this is we can have questions however we want to adam schiff wants to control this narrative he wants one side out. we will continue to see at love witnesses this week and a lot of who will be interesting and some contradictions and seeing what happened here and the focus of what the president did. let's get back to the what the president did not the theatrics around it. brian: the president should just ignore this whole things. don't tweet during it. it ticks you off. steve: right. brian: so much for him to do just let these guys like doug collins and company fight it out and keep tonight straight and narrow from the republican
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perspective. steve: do you know who signature noriega it, brian? the american public. the media research center put out a note on news busters.org 95% of the country did not watch. and, in fact, the ratings fell between the first day and second day. however, the number one choice for watching the impeachment inquiry right here fox news channel. thank you. ainsley: and the american public want us to watch it all, want us to give the summary and tell them what happened. it's hard for them to follow all of these players. steve: it's easy to understand though. if you are watching somebody on tv and they are asked did you ever talk to the president? no. were you on the call? no. was he involved in bribery? no. did he break any laws? no. okay. how much of that do you have to actually watch? ainsley: republicans are saying such a double standard. they want joe biden to be investigated. his son's efforts to be investigated. they want the fisa abuse report which could be released soon. brian: i wish i had my own
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swoosh because then i would go to the next topic. senator lindsey graham made an announcement yesterday i will have to read it into my voice. steve: need a swoosh? brian: mr. horowitz will be appearing before the senate judiciary committee on december 11th where he will deliver a detailed report of what he found regarding his investigation. along with recommendation as to how to make our judicial and investigative systems better. like making the fisa court accountable. perhaps. i look forward to hearing from him. >> he's is a good man that has served our nation well. so i imagine that means the report will be out prior and probably be out that week and then he comes front and center. ainsley: prior to what? brian: december 11th. steve: the report has been printed. people are looking at it. it's over 500 pages. ainsley: apparently it's supposed to shed some light on john durham's probe because that is now a full
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fledged criminal investigation. brian: right. steve: well, because what it's going to look at is looking at whether or not the fbi violated the laws by the fisa warrant with carter page, which ultimately led to the fbi watching the entire trump campaign. here is kimberley strassel, "wall street journal," on what to expect from the ig when it drops. >> there are going to be some criminal referrals. and then there is also going to be a lot of calling out of very bad behavior and rule-breaking internally. people are going to be held to account. i think that if you are talking about a report that is that big, that this isn't going to focus narrowly on just fisa court abuse. but it is going to go more broadly to a lot of different behavior. we know, for instance, that the inspector general from some of his prior reports has been hugely concerned with leaks for instance. we will see how far he gets. steve: figure out where the leak something coming from. brian: my question is if michael horowitz speaks in the woods, do we hear him
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speak? i'm just saying is half the country going to shut off the impeachment hearings and the other people going to shut off the inspector general report? i bet you some of these networks don't even cover it. steve: here's the thing. the inspector general does his job year around. you know, it's not and the democrats would say, you know, william barr appointed durham and that's politically motivated. that's different. this is the government keeping an eye on the government. ainsley: depends on what's in that count. everyone is anxious. brian: i'm anxious to toss to jillian. jillian: i'm anxious to receive that toss. thousands of firefighters honor a fallen hero saving his life. he died while rescuing two firefighters from a burning home in massachusetts. the brother of one of those firefighters praising him at his funeral. >> he is my hero. my family's, your family's, and all of our communities.
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his actions are the reason my only brother is still here today. jillian: his wife and three kids were will will will wilawarded with thehighest deatr firefighters: doctor issuing a letter saying last weekend's trip to walter reed military medical center was part of, quote, a routine, planned interim checkup adding the president has not had any chest pain nor was he evaluated or treated for any urgent or acute issues. happening today, lawmakers in sarasota, florida, are considering a resolution to declare the county a assessment sanctuary fosecondam. residents support the right to bear arms. if the plan is approved. sarasota would be the third county in the state to declare itself a second amendment sanctuary. dooby brothers fans got a surprise when an old
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favorite made a come back. ♪ taking it to the streets ♪ taking it to the streets. jillian: mcdonald has occasionally played with the doobie brothers since going solo in 1982. he will join them on the road for their 50th anniversary tour next year. steve: are you kidding? jillian: not kidding. ainsley: break up because there was a feud? jillian: that was 37 years ago. i don't know. [laughter] brian: joel, would you google that. >> stand by. brian: joel never does that when i ask him. ainsley: not picking up the phone. steve: breaking news in the death of jeffrey epstein. brand new twists and charges
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steve: fox news alert. correctional officers responsible for monitoring jeffrey epstein in a new york jail are expected to face criminal charges. associated press reports two correctional officers may have failed to do their jobs and in fact falsified some records. brian: here we go. todd piro is live with more on their many mistakes and
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led to the death of convicted sex offender jeffrey epstein. todd? >> steve, ainsley and brian, good morning. after reportedly rejecting a plea bargain last week those two guards could be charged as early as today. those charges include failure to check on epstein every half hour as required and then falsifying log entries to claim that they did those checks. investigators believe those checks were not done for several hours before epstein was discovered in his cell with a bed sheet around his neck. meantime, ben sasse, among a number of senators, expected to grill bureau of prisons director kathleen hulk sawyer about the case when she testified at a senate judiciary oversight hearing in a few hours. sasse writing, quote, epstein's death in crisis that ignited a trust of public trust in your agency. to say pretend like this issue won't be a significant focus of attention at this hearing is naive to the point of being laughable. while there may be particular details that you did not yet answer, deflecting difficult questions won't cut it.
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the falsification of records has reportedly been a problem throughout the federal prison system but, of course, with the epstein case being so high profile it's gaining a lot more national attention. steve, ainsley and brian. ains. brian: actually we wonder if he actually did kill himself or was hung. steve: on this program within the last month we had dr. michael baden who did -- was observing the autopsy by the medical examiner. the medical examiner ruled the death was a suicide but dr. baden on this show said that the neck fractures on the x-ray were consistent with homicide. not suicide. ainsley: he has conducted so many thousands -- tens of thousands of autopsy sis. steve: high profile. ainsley: i said have you ever seen anyone hang themselves and have these three bones broken and he said never. brian: ed a former new york city deputy corrections warned. he talked about biden's finding and the officers not doing their jobs were told not to do their jobs.
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look michael baden a world renowned pathologist comes along and looks at jeffrey epstein. he does his own independent autopsy. he has been doing this for 50 years. he has done over 20,000 autopsy sis. michael baden determines that the injuries that jeffrey epstein sustained are not consistent with suicide by hanging but rather suicide by triangle do you go labor relation. the only thing i can think that might have happened is that maybe the officers weren't during their jobs. maybe they were sleeping. maybe unknown, you know, individuals, inmates, officers, civilians, i don't know, went into jeffrey epstein's cell, strangled him and put a ligature around his neck to make it seem like he was hung, like it was a hanging. brian: whole thing of him getting beat up two weeks prior. they stick him with another guy and gets the crap beat out of him. steve: that's why he was on suicide watch. why were the cameras off. seems to be a perfect storm of problems. apparently the feds, according to the associated press, offered these two correctional officers a plea
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deal and they declined. brian: let me just tell you something, this is -- it's got to be -- he must have known a lot of stuff if there is some plot and plan behind him, the fingerprints are out there, the footprints are on the floor. there is such a trail of finding out who is responsible how much was it more important for someone to take the risk of killing him to just make sure he is dead not to talk. steve: what we discovered though when dr. michael baden was on the show and he was talking about the fbi never examined the ligature. ainsley: to seat d.n.a. evidence. steve: then the next day on we had somebody who said they can't find it. how handy is that they wanted to check the 2k345eu. ainsley: there is so many unanswered questions i do worry about the safety of these officers. brian: yeah. ainsley: we will have congressman kevin mccarthy on. is he asking them to explain why they spiked that story. brian: they have a lot of explaining to do. i don't know if they will. we have been telling you about the fight for free speech on campuses. not saying too much about it.
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♪ steve: got some quick headlines for you on this tuesday morning. israel has intercepted four rockets fired from inside syria. tweeting all the rockets were shot down by the iron dome missile defense system. that's why they got it. and that's why it works. this comes as the u.s. announces the administration will no longer consider west bank settlements to be illegal. that reverses policy established under the obama administration. prime minister benjamin netanyahu is praising president trump for the move. and the man accused of killing eight people at new
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york city terror attack is now attacking the government. he ranted in court saying he only answers to alla. slammed the u.s. for killing muslims around are the world. he is accused of mowing down more than a dozen people with a pickup truck on the west side of new york city along the hudson river in 2017. all right. brian, that's some of the news. brian: i remember that meanwhile americans' brave veterans have put it all on the line to defend and protect our great nation. according to new op-ed from next guest they are getting quite a cold welcome on college campuses across the country saying. this students at elite colleges seek to undermine the values that service members signed up to definite. here to explain is the author of u.s. air force veteran rob henderson who graduated from yale and is a doctoral candidate at cambridge. rob, first off, tell me your story, you are a guy that had a tough upbringing, in foster care, gets adopted, goes to the military. and then goes to college.
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what did you observe that we should learn? >> right. well, one of the things that i speak about in that op-ed is how the military actually does a very good job of building bonds between military members. so things like gender and race aren't actually so important. whereas when i arrived at yale, for example, i was shocked at how important those two things are. these are continual points of discussion, what race someone is what gender someone is and i was very disturbed at how focused these elite institutions are on these characteristics. to say me, the military was proof that we could get beyond those superficial features and unite around a common purpose. brian: for the most part stats don't lie, lower and middle class join the military. upper class go to elite colleges, many cases not to overgeneralize and actually speak out against the first and second amendment whenever they can when it was the middle and lower class that are defending it. >> right. that's exactly right.
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so many veterans actually approached me and they have said things like, don't you ever feel like you were duped because we served this country defending the constitution and american values. and then, you know, the richest kids in the country at these elite institutions are constantly attempting to undermine free speech, freedom of expression and first and second amendments. colonel among veterans this is going on. even among liberal veterans and left of center veterans they see by campus activists. brian: i love your story. get adopted i adopted in fostere personal challenge with that family. you end up being not that interested in school. at 18 i'm going to join the military. bright, you read a lot. but your grades weren't grade. then when you are done you join this warrior program and you get back into college under a look around and you say there is something wrong here. here is an excerpt from your writings. on campus we learned to blend in even at the cost of feeling betrayed. keep our love for american ourselves. we don't want to give veterans a bad reputation.
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we want to make friends. try to understand campus protesters to see where they are coming from. rob, i know you are trying to be measured. but it's their immaturity that stands out and it's almost like you got to check your maturity. >> right. that's right. as you said, some veterans come from different background from these rich college students and so there is a kind of culture shock. we are trying to blend in and integrate and learn. and there is this view on many of these campuses among people that things like patriotism or love for the country, these are kind of tacky or just something that educated people don't engage in. so a lot of veterans who do love the country, of course, who served the country, we are trying to learn and try to, you know, blend in with these people, but it does sometimes cause a feeling of betrayal. brian: always a sense that people should give service before they go back somehow some way whether it's in the military or some type of charity service before or
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right after college. and by the way, last question. is this just a rob story or is this other veterans saying the same thing. >> many veterans have reached out to me after reading this and they agree with it. they also share these concerns. they feel isolated on campus offensive times. and i just want to say that a lot of the faculty and administrators have done a decent job of recruiting veterans on to campus. when they allow the campus activists to dictate the culture and set the tone they haven't created a welcoming environment to these veterans. brian: welcome to the scholar program they did a good job wrangling you. thank you for your service. >> thank you very much. steve: tom cotton is the opposite of that ivy league glad joins the infantry. kanye west started a nationwide amusement. what does he say to people who don't believe it. lawrence jones spoke to him after his service on sunday and he joins us live next with the answer. ♪ ♪ you can still be anything
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veterans day last week. ainsley: they say little caden has practiced for months at home in new hampshire while his brother was away at boot camp -- no, if you are a parent, you know 3 years old, most kids don't know that. brian: he nailed it and he was on tune. meanwhile, we have been telling you about kanye west bringing church to osteen church this weekend. steve: sharing spiritual journey to a huge crowd including lawrence jones who actually spoke to kanye directly. ainsley: lawrence jones joins us now with that interview. >> it was amazing. kanye is an authentic human being. i tell people that i haven't felt this way since i was a kid. my mom was a preacher and also the choir director. i have been around music and preaching my entire life. when you go there and you hear kanye talking about his story under a hear that choir many kids that gave their life to christ. i was interviewing people.
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kids were dragging their parents to church. >> can you just imagine that? parents force you to go to church because of his influence. brian: i watched the james corden airplane characte care core. >> i never have never heard a choir like that. steve: church choir and he largely had his band. you got to ask him some questions, right? >> we have some questions. steve: here it is. ♪ ♪ i know that god has been calling me for a long time and the devil has been distracting me for a long time. [cheers and applause] even for someone who is professing god and saying this is going to be a gospel album, the devil is going to come and do everything he can to distract poem from
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knowing how to fully be in service to the lord. >> how did you feel about the sunday service experience? >> i thought it was amazing. it's so cool to have somebody that you looked up to musically, to come here and see their life transform. i know tv can make a lot of things look better than what it is sometimes. i think he is staying the course and he is walking his walk. >> how are you handling people seeing this evolution of you coming to christ? you have always talked about christ. but in this new way? >> well, now i got the ultimate security guard. and that's god. and it's to secure my mind and my spirit. because the main thing that people try to do is use comments, naysayers to throw you off your course and distract you. and we're keeping our eye on christ at all times. it's always in service. and that removes the fear. >> do you feel liberated? >> absolutely. liberated in service for the
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name above all names. >> do you believe this new kanye? >> absolutely. >> yeah. you have to. i can i believe he can go through it as one of the first rappers who have actually been able to cross over to gospel and actually make it. >> i have been trying to get sean hannity to listen to hip hop forever. now is he listening to kanye's new album and texting me through the service and saying is he a big supporter of kanye. how does that make you feel that you have people that you have never been able to reach before and now just different lyrics. the same kanye different lyrics been able to reach him. >> just praise god for the anointing and talent and what he has given me since age 5. me pursuing the arts. going to art school or even the scholarship he gave me art institute of chicago. phd. all of these platforms, grammies, the visual arts, space, through live
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performance now i can be in service to him. ainsley: that's amazing. it's reaching people that normally would not have been reached like sean hannity is listening to kanye now. >> i have been trying to get sean to listen to hip hop for years. i can't listen to that. my kids listen to that. steve: lawrence, how many people would you say went because they wanted the spiritual experience and how many would you say were there who just wanted to see kanye. >> look, i think it's both. god uses vessels and kanye was a vessel. if the kanye story, if kanye didn't exist before, this he wouldn't be able to be that vessel to lead all these kids to christ. i think it's a powerful message. brian: breaking news that he had positive things to say about your jacket. >> i swear, i don't get star struck but he said, you know, i love your jacket, it's so fire. and i about crashed. to stay on task, lawrence. stay on task. steve: what jacket. >> it was a nice brown
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jacket. [laughter] ainsley: you are a very snazzy dresser. good job. >> lawrence. our country needs. this. >> it's a spiritual awakening. everybody is criticizing him. don't knock it. he may make some mistakes that's part of being a christian. you get back up and do it again. ainsley: we all back slide and god brings us back. steve: amen to that. >> a little church on "fox & friends." ainsley: right? jillian: it was like this nice camel colored jacket. i noticed. it was fire. good morning to you. get you caught up on headlines. a teenager wanted for burglary jumps off the roof of an airport to avoid being arrested. police say the 16-year-old knew officers were waiting for him at the oklahoma airport when he arrived on a flight from houston. when a walked off the plane he ran across the tarmac. climbed onto the roof and jumped into a construction zone breaking both of his legs.
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he is now behind bars. state troopers come within inches of tragedy as he had help a woman change a time. stop what you are doing and watch this. jillian: that is difficult to watch. watch again as the truck slides on to its side onto the ditch. the illinois trooper frantically calling for help. >> truck fly off the road and hit us. one female injured in the ditch. >> are you okay? >> can you hear me? >> yeah. jillian: amazingly, everyone was okay. the truck narrowly missed them. the driver was given a ticket. got to be careful. wow. a british actor will play president barack obama in a new tv minier is you are series. betrait 44th president in a series about the rise and fall of james comey. comey will be played by
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actor jeff daniels. based on comey's book a higher loyalty. a new hampshire town is nixing formal tree lighting ceremony and new inclusive frost fest. changing democrat addition after it was criticized for focusing too much on christmas. there will still be a christmas tree no formal lighting. still santa claus but no grand entrance. send it back to you. steve: they will have a tree at the frost fest and they won't call it a christmas tree. brian: never heard of a frost fest. does it come with a scraper? steve: let's go outside and janice dean joins us from fox square where they have actually put up some of the christmas lights behind her. holiday lights. janice: i don't see many lights. steve: radio city. janice: radio city music hall. you are right. a little bird told me there might be a christmas lighting for "fox & friends" at a certain point. take a look at the maps real
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quick. we did have a coastal storm. we still have a coastal storm off the coast of new england. look at those temperatures. a lot of 30's and 40's on the map. it does feel like winter time and that there should be christmas decorations in the midst here on fox square. past 24 hours. see that coastal low. potential for heavy snow and interior sections as well as new england. and then it will be out of here over the next 6 to 12 hours. and we are going to be watching the next storm system moving into the west that could bring the potential for heavy rain across the southwest, southern california, and some snow in the mountains of the rockies. all right. you are right. it is beginning to look a lot like radio city music hall. ainsley: where the rockettes perform. we have got to get our tickets. janice: i love that. steve: christmas spectacular. brian: i have never gone to a christmas spectacular and and not fallen asleep. ainsley: because because you get up at 3:00.
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for any president to be under oath and forced to answer questions where he has confidential and top secret information in his head. he is concerned with protecting his legacy. is he concerned with protecting his presidency. is hhe is concerned with dealing with the viewing public. it's artificial and dangerous environment. steve: it's not judicial. it's congressional. it's all political. >> we were just talking. brian asked about the rules on hearsay during the break. the rules don't apply here. anything goes. this is not a courtroom. adam schiff. steve: whatever they say. >> adam schiff is not a judge enforcing the rules of civil procedure. brian: i was astounded over the weekend when adam schiff under the presumption that he wants to get to the bottom and play in the game. give a major speech talking about how he is the resistance and morphed into something better send him back to his golden throne. really he is going to get to the bottom. >> the speech he gave in
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california. brian: same guy sit down today. >> two sides to these people. in california he was a politician beginnin ginning up e california democratic party-out dnc. brian: the perception of fairness. independence and. >> perception of fairness and independence what you expect from a judge not a politician. impeachment is political. brian: did that happen with clinton and nixon? >> i used to work for peter rodino and had respect for him. he was almost saint like with his fairness. he also decided before the hearing started this guy has got to go. steve: richard nixon's son-in-law he said it was very partisan congress back in that day. >> almost always partisan when they are the opposite party and the congress wants to dislodge and torment the president. ainsley: thank you very much. >> when is kilmeade going to
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one of those kanye west gatherings. brian: any minute. >> i will go with you, brian. ainsley: two senators taking on the fight for the unborn. seeking to ban abortions if the child is believed to have down syndrome. it is a very personal fight for our friend rachel campos-duffy. she joins us with her powerful story next ♪ an american heart ♪ it is nice. his haircut is "nice." this is the most-awarded minivan three years in a row. the van just talked. sales guy, give 'em the employee price, then gimme your foot. hands-free sliding doors, stow 'n go® seats. can your car do this? man, y'all getting a hook up and you don't even work here. don't act like i'm not doing y'all a favor. y'all should be singing my praises. pacificaaaaa! purchase and get $5,361 below msrp plus 0% financing for 60 months on the 2019 pacifica limited.
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for next guest who just had a beautiful girl named value lynvalentinea. good morning, rachel. >> good morning. great to be with you this morning. ainsley: this hits home for you. why? >> well, our child was born with a congenital heart defect but also with down syndrome. and i have always been against abortion. you know that. and certainly against abortion that targets people for their gender but, also, because they are special needs. it's great to see that there are senators that are championing this bill to prohibit abortion based on solely on the diagnosis of down syndrome. there are now eight states that have enacted legislation to ban this. the supreme court did not take up the case of the ban in indiana; however, and really great news is that clarence thomas has said, listen, we have not yet
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established whether the constitutional right currently that we have for abortion in this country extends to what he calls eugenic abortions which is exactly what this is. it is targeting children simply because they have one more chromosome than other people. ainsley: rachel, if you look at the stats pretty staggering, 65 to 80% of all down syndrome diagnosis end in abortion. a lot of women might find out or older and get pregnant and wants to find out if anything is wrong with the baby because they can't afford to have a baby that has medical issues or maybe they are sing goal moms or don't make a lot of money. what do you say to those moms having to make that did you have decision becaustough d. this is one of the first times have you talked about valentina and what she means to you. >> i'm amazed how much support there has been from all kinds of organizations for parents who find out that they have this
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diagnosis. this is a case where we need to think about and talk so much about tolerance and acceptance in this culture. that has to extend to people with special needs. people with downs like my baby. our baby has already in only two months made our family better and stronger. more understanding of others that we see that aren't exactly like us there is a lot to be learned. we are literally exterminating them. in ice land they are celebrating that they have eradicated down syndrome. what they have done through eugenics they have literal i exterminated virtually every diagnoses of down syndrome. that country is being robbed of ever seeing what a down continue drop child looks like and bring into the world which is certainly a lot of joy. frankly my daughter has every writ right to live as any other child does. 100 percent in iceland. u.k. 90%.
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brian: a fox news alert. a live look at capitol hill where two public impeachment hearings begin in just a few hours. one in the morning and one in the afternoon. steve: we are now in week two, third day. four witnesses will appear before the house intel committee throughout the day. ainsley: griff jenkins joins us live from the ways and means committee room with an inside look. hey, griff. >> brian and steve good morning. it's the ways and means room but being used by the intelligence committee. not only four witnesses today there is a total of nine over the next three days. let me tell you how this is going to go. this is of course where chairman adam schiff sits back there. he has the bigger chair. i don't know why he gets the big chair i guess he is the
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chairman. gavel in at 9:00 a.m. have the typical swearing. in the opening statements. then you will get into the 45 minutes for each side, followed by the five minute member rounds. there is 13 democrats and nine republicans on this committee. then, in these chairs you will have two witnesses. first, that is lieutenant colonel alex vindman who was the ukraine expert detailed to the nsc and then jennifer williams an aid to vice president pence from the state department. both were on the july 25th phone call at the center of this entire impeachment process. both have indicated that they felt they were concerned, in fact, vindman raised concerns twice that he believed that the president could be in a situation where the ukraine policy was detriment to national security. we will find out how that goes. fireworks certainly expected. 3:00 p.m. this afternoon, the next two witnesses that is special envoy kurt volker along with nsea tim morrison. all of this comes after two transcripts of depositions were released last night.
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they were from david hale, who also along with david holmes -- sorry, there is two holmes there. now, have you david holmes the aid to the ukraine embassy bill taylor who told ambassador heard the conversation with president trump. the take away is that you are going to hear a lot about whether or not the president wanted to drive this campaign on ukraine policy, holmes say not guilty deposition that he believed that sondland told him the president didn't give an s, a dirty word there, about ukraine. of course, ambassador sondland di does not testify until tomorrow. kick off here in about two hours. guys. steve: all right, griff. thank you very much. apparently david holmes in his transcript he is did the guy sitting at the twable ambassador sondland at the cafe splitting a bottle of wine. he did testify that apparently he did not hear both sides of the call for
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its entire duration. of course lieutenant vindman will be the democrats' star witnesses. portray him as lifelong public servant. republicans will say low level aid operated outside of proper channels. someone who may have been agitating against the president and leaking information. brian: not unusual for a state department to have a problem with the white house and their policies push back against it. frustrated many presidents in the past now it's out in public. jennifer williams was on the call. give information. one thing shot down in realtime burisma the controversial thing is there burisma didn't come up in the transcript. steve: she wasn't shocked. she didn't alert either other supervisors or the white house lawyers. brian: somehow they got ahold of it. kurt volker will say special envoy to the ukraine. he will say key moments have
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i been left out of the loop of any type of trump pressure campaign. he will not know. that's a good way of saying ask somebody else. ainsley: 9:00 a.m. you mentioned jennifer williams the aide to mike pence is going to be testifying so is the guy on the far left colonel alexander vindman. he said he overheard gordon sondland. he said he felt like he was pushing for ukraine to investigate joe biden. he felt and hunter biden. he thought that was inappropriate. he said he was concerned by the call, of course, the democrats hear that and they want him to testify today. steve: keep in mind, it was when vindman was testifying behind closed doors that adam schiff told him you don't have to answer that the republicans were trying to figure out whether or not he was the source of the information for the whistleblower and reportedly, according to sources inside that room, apparently he said, you know, nobody knows hot whistleblower is. i don't know the identity of the whistleblower. so, how could i have given the whistleblower information? brian: that's interesting. four minutes now after the hour. a fox news alert.
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an american australian professor just released by the taliban as part of a prisoner swap. steve: kevin king and timothy weeks were freed in afghanistan earlier today after being held hostage in 2016. as part of the deal the afghan government released taliban commanders and sent them to qatar. >> no attempted to rescue these two professors kidnapped from the american university in da ca bull. we didn't want to make a deal and trade for three taliban commanders. all three members of the haqqani network violent aspects of the insurgencies allied with afghan taliban. end ago war no good way to end it. no good deals happen at the end of it. afghan president took the lead in this. and 10 afghan troops were also returned to afghanistan. so the hope is this can lead to a cease-fire.
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taliban hoping for less american troops which the president stopped negotiating about. there is a lot of back and forth. but how this improves the actual situation on the ground, very much remains to be seen. brian: worry about them saying well, we have other guys in there we have got to go grab some other americans and do another swap. pete: exactly. which can is precisely why we don't do these swaps. afghan government taken the lead. steve: if they worked. they will grab more people. pete: of course. the taliban has been trying to negotiate with us separately to get us to leave. because we are the most powerful tribe in afghanistan. then they want to negotiate with the afghan government. the problem is if we leave the afghan government loses a lot of the leverage they have. brian: all of it. >> has not stopped their affiliation with al qaeda. reached the place where kabul is threatened by the taliban. now at square one. endless war people don't want to keep pouring money into and troops into. how you finish is going to matter. ainsley: was there a reasonable why they selected
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these two individuals. this australian and american? i know they were professors. >> part of the urgency the american professor had become quite i will. steve: mr. king. pete: there was time pressure on making the deal. they didn't know where he was. they couldn't execute one of these navy seal raids. result 3459ly the contention one of the guys the son of the leader haqqani network bad dude led suicide networks. propaganda arm for the haqqani network. ainsley: last name haqqani. >> so they got better in this trade than we did. the hope is this is part of us being able to inch away in the afghan government -- ainsley: do we watch those three individuals now? will we know where they are? brian: tag them. watch them. pete: maybe. brian: meanwhile, some stunning news nut israeli palestinian nations president announced yesterday to mike pompeo no longer going to say the israelis should not be settling in the west bank. pete: this is big news. and big kudos to president trump, secretary pompeo, ambassador freidman over there who had been pushing
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for this for over year ultimately pompeo said it right. who is right and who is wrong is a matter of international law will not bring peace. so for the longest time international -- u.n. and others tried to say israeli presence in the so-called west bank is illegal. setting the terms of you who the world views israel. so israel is in the occupying force. what jews and supporters of israel had said for a long time how can you be a occupier of your own historical homeland. that's where jews have lived for thousands of years. to be in that position, to have defeated enemies around you who tried to wipe you off the map does not make you an occupying force. this is a good day for the state of israel. steve: pete, you know, the palestinians are going to go wait a minute you changed all the ground rules. used to be illegal and now it's legal. is this a way to try to get them back to the table and negotiate something? pete: part of trying to have an honest conversation at the table. it's why they moved the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. why they are roichessing these as not being illegal
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settlements. have a conversation about peace whether it's two states or one state. whatever it looked like let's have an honest one. this is pathway to that kind of conversation. ainsley: our conversation believes more like ronald reagan than president obama. pete: jimmy carter first put this fliewl place in 1978. ronald reagan gave a speech about it nullifying it. then obama put carter's policy back in place. now trump is formalizing it more than reagan ever did. saying we do not view these as illegal. still israel has to manage its relations with the palestinian authority how these individuals settlements are dealt with knowing a lot of people in judea and sumaria. i spent almost 10 days there recently for a fox with fox nation come out in 2020. super complex there. the pride of jews living in their historic homeland. let us sthettle out don't use the u.n. and the eu or boycott. bds boycott divestment sanction movement happening in europe and universities in america. part of calling that occupation illegal occupation is how they
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target the jewish state. a move like this takes the u.s. government on the side of israel and clarifies the entire conversation. brian: embassy moving. the golan heights essentially being looked at part of israel's territory and west bank. pete: could open the door to annexation of jude jew jude jud. >> they said it was go to blow up. reflection of cop common sense. same will happen here. thank you very much. appreciate it. ainsley: thank you very much. jailian is right behind you with the headlines. jillian: criminal charges against two corrections officers guarding jeffrey epstein could come as soon as today. an a.p. report says the guards are acaused of failing to check epstein every half hour and fabricating logs to make it look like they did. epstein is believed to have hung himself in a new york city jail. the senate will hold a hearing today as they investigate possible mistakes from the federal bureau of prisons.
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in just a few minutes, house minority leader kevin mccarthy will join us live with more on the epstein case. a california woman wounded during a las vegas massacre dies from her injuries two years after the attack. she suffered spinal injuries when she was shotness back. she shut 59th casualty of the deadliest shooting in american history. the gunman opened fire on a crowd at a music festival las vegas strip. he killed himself as police moved. in a motive is still unknown. new overnight, the department of justice wants a lawsuit fired by former fbi agent peter strzok to be dismissed. the feds are investigating if he leaked sensitive information about the russia probe. strzok claims he was denied due process when he was fired. he and fbi colleague lisa page landed in the spotlight for sending anti-trump text messages and emails to each other. so, who is the greatest jeopardy champion? that question will be answered when the game show's three biggest winners go head to head. brad rudder, ken jennings,
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and james holzhauer will battle for a million dollars in the title of greatest of all time. in total winnings, the three men combined have earned over 10 million bucks. the tournament will air in january. jennings making funnel of his competitors fashion choices on the show tweeting, quote: all proceeds go to buying james holzhauer a nice sport coat or blazer and maybe even a necktie. brian: game on. jillian: got to love the jabs there. steve: thank you very much, jillian. ainsley: that's how they fight. brian: that's their locker room, the green room. steve: mean while, google, the search engine under fire again. new investigation reveals the search giant is blacklisting some conservative web sites. what's that about? that's coming up. brian: i had no idea that would happen. ♪ head games ♪ i don't want to play those head games ♪ i'm ládeia, and there's more to me than hiv. there's my career...
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blogs. one partial blacklist reviewed by the journal, some conservative and right wing web sites, including the gateway pundit and the united west were included on a list of hundreds of web sites that would not appear in the news or feature products. is that fair? david limbaugh author of the new book "guilty by reason of insanity" and joins us now. another word banned is the word abortion, too. >> yeah, brian. thanks for having me on. it's, i talk about next tensively in my book. social media companies have enormous power to regulate speech. and it's not even a first amendment question because there is no government action. so they can manipulate search results and we found that they do on -- by labeling certain things as controversial. slate's april glazier made a complaint that too many negative abortion videos were surfacing when the term abortion came up and shortly after she complained, there was evidence that it was decreased. and one leaked google employee note said that this
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was a smoking gun. that they manipulate their search results. brian: you wonder, you want the free market to be a free market. it's a free company. you have to ask people to have integrity. how do you legislate integrity? >> you know, there are ways, ted cruz and others have talked about antitrust action against these companies for abuse. but there is also section 230 of the communications decency act. see, these companies are immune for liability for content posted by users because they are open to all users like phone companies. but, if they selectively ban content. then they become content providers and then they can be treated as regular companies and their liability -- their immunity can be taken away. and that's been threatened. brian: interesting. you must have read most of those books behind you to come up with it and i get it. here is what google said about the wall street story. we are transparent about our legal requirements and policies for special features in search or our processes. police and policies
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algorithms do not take political ideology into account. the journal's own research concluded that our results showed prominent representation of both conservative and liberal news outlets. let's move on. we will let them work that out. now, the double standard by between the way burisma story and joe biden and his son are treated as to the way president trump and his staff are treated here is the media bias. watch. >> there vice president, president trump has falsely accused your son of doing something wrong while serving on a company board in ukraine. i want to point out there is no evidence of wrongdoing by either one of you. >> there is no proof whatsoever that joe biden did anything wrong or that hunter biden did anything wrong. >> trump's claims about wrongdoing here are unsubstantiated. we have looked. lots of outlets have looked. >> trump is making a wholly unsubstantiated claim when he alleges corruption by the bidens. there is no evidence of any wrongdoing. in reality, joe biden was the one working to purge
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corruption from ukraine. brian: you have to suspend logic that the vice president is in charge of the ukraine. his son is on a board he is not qualified for. put there to gain influence. and worthy of examination. but that, to me, is showing you we have got to clear joe biden to go after trump. what are you seeing? >> exactly. for two years there is a pattern here. for two years they reported breathlessly these allegations of russia-trump collusion and they never once looked into the fisa warrant. they dismissed it and ridiculed it that it was fraudulently obtained. then when mueller didn't come up with the proof, they not only didn't punish schiff, they rewarded him. now he has pivoted to the leadership of a new committee and as you say, he is investigating trump on things that are am big useless. there was no quid pro quo. the money was paid without condition. plus, nobody looks into trump's intent. i think he was looking backward to the 2016 elections. he is so sick of being
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targeted by these people he wanted to find out. but they accept nothing about the obvious overt corruption and conflict of interest of the bidens as you said. brian: david, all you say is this, it doesn't look good for hunter biden doesn't speak the language no experience to be on a board like that with his dad in charge. also people in the obama administration had a problem with it and then go attack president trump. then you have at least the perception of balance. but to exonerate him in the statement, at a debate, is inexcusable. is he a true news man. what do i know. david limbaugh, thanks so much. >> yeah. thank you so much. brian. brian: serious stuff now as well. a college freshman found dead after leaving a fraternity party. now his heart broken parents want the truth. they both join us next. if you have moderate to severe psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream.
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♪ steve: it is a heart breaking story as that young man, a cornell university freshman is mysteriously found dead after going to a fraternity party. antonio cialis went to a party on october 24th. two days later his body was found in the university's botanical gardens. now his parents are asking for answers, offering $10,000 in reward for information. antonio's mother, his father john and their attorney david join us right now from miami. good morning to all of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. thank you for having us. >> i'm going to read the statement from the president of cornell and then go from there. martha pollock issued a statement said it's already widely known a fraternity sponsored event took place on october 24th that alcohol
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was served and that first year students, including mr. cialis were in attendance. these events still under investigation regrettably follow a pattern of misconduct in the greek letter system. aside from that, what has the school told you about what happened to your son? >> nothing. we have no information about what happened to him that night. all i know is i had dinner with him prior to him attending the event. he was going to go back to school to finish his econ project and that's all i know. we know that also that he attended the party and he was seen it party we don't have any details of what happened to him that night. who was he with, and also how did he get to where they found him?
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steve: yeah. you have a lot of questions and you don't have many answers. john, what is frustrating from your point of view regarding what you have heard so far from the university? >> yeah, basically like my wife was saying the frustration is while it is under investigation, we feel that the police are investigating the crime or investigating the situation. it's just the idea that no one has seen him from the time of the party to the time they discovered his body. and it just is amazing that nothing has come out saying that they saw him at any point during the night. so, it just -- it's baffling to us. it's baffling to us that with so many kids around, that no one has seen -- no one saw him during that whole time period. steve: yeah.
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well, david, have you got to figure somebody saw something but you just haven't heard from them. as the attorney, where do you go from here? >> well, we have got our own investigation underway to supplement what the cornell police department is doing. i have hired several top notch investigators. we have set up a tip line. we are offering a $10,000 reward. i get phone calls every day, text messages every day. and we are chasing them all down. steve: yeah. flavia, before your son went to college, were you worried about what could happen at these fraternities? >> no. we were -- we heard, you know, that there were some activities. and we warned him, you know, he was a social person. he was very -- he was very compassionate. he always liked to do things for others. and he was very involved. he was very involved back at
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home. and since he cornell he was very involved in cornell life as a student. he had no -- he didn't plan to play soccer at a college level. he had turned down some scholarships. but one day he called us and he said he was interested in playing at a club level at school. and, you know, we supported. we knew that he needed, you know, to play soccer. it was his passion. he was very passionate about everything that he did. he also let us know that he was going to apply for a campus tour guide. and he went through four interviews and he was finally chosen to be a tour guide he mentioned something but he said, you know, that
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would be something that would happen in the spring. we told him we would help him. we would help him we didn't know. steve: i can understand that. it's got to be so recovery whelming. david, when you look at the stats, the number of fraternity deaths just within n. a one month period fall of 2019. penn state, cornell with this young man, san diego state, arizona state. washington state. what is your concern about the fraternity system? >> i have been involved in these cases for over 20 years. i have put together a list just since the year 2000. 55 college students have died in fraternity hazing incidents around the united states. that's despite all of those efforts to try to stop it. it goes on. this particular party that he went to was unauthorized, illegal. it was a dirty rush, which these guys knew they weren't supposed to do.
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they were serving alcohol, which was illegal. they knew they weren't supposed to do it, but they didn't care. and as a result of them thumbing their nose at all of the rules at cornell, antonio is dead. steve: it's a terrible story. if anybody watching knows anybody who has any information about that night and in particular this young man antonio tsialas's death call this tip hotline 607-280-5102. flavia and john, we are so sorry for your loss. we cannot imagine the pain you have gone through. david, thank you so much for joining us and helping us understand what happened. >> thank you. steve: good luck to you. all right. about 7:330 here in new york city. four witnesses set to testify in the impeachment probe just about one hour from right now. house minority leader kevin
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♪ beautiful, beautiful, beautiful beautiful ♪ this is our shot of the morning and we welcome this beautiful baby boy into the fox family. congratulations to our very own jedediah bila who welcomed her son hartley luca into the family on friday. steve: mom and baby are doing fine. ainsley: there is mom and husband with baby boy. i was texting her yesterday. doing great. i can't wait to see her and meet this baby. she is trying to figure out some things for -- she was asking me about the bassinet. do you have a bassinet that wheels from one room to the next? brian: yeah. ainsley: it was -- i insisted on buying this gorgeous big bassinet because i always wanted one.
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i spent too much money on it but i loved it. i kept passing it on the street. steve: you are going to lend to to her. ainsley: can you use it. the thing is hayden not d. not sleep well in it the first day. i tried it the second night. she still didn't sleep well. lauren patterson at fox bought me this one that cost like 25 bucks or 30 bucks and hayden slept soundly. so, yeah, i was talking to jedediah about it. she is so happy. and just loves her baby boy. brian: congratulations. meanwhile, on a serious note. ainsley: i made that whole thing about me. brian: it was great. ended up about her. meanwhile, minority leader kevin mccarthy joining us right now. he has a lot on his plate as the republican party looks to get ahold of the narrative. especially when it comes to impeachment. we understand, congressman, that four separate people will be testifying today and this is going to be a big week. what is -- is there a game plan for republicans going in on that committee? >> well, it's always been
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our game plan. just stick to the facts. remember, these witnesses are the only people who pass the audition for adam schiff. remember, no due process. the president does not get an attorney in the room. the president does not get to request any witnesses. this is all about adam schiff, whoever passed his screening for the audition down in that basement. you know what you will find is the same we have found before. the democrats are not concerned about facts, only focus groups. we are not sure what word they will use today because they change it from quid pro quo to bribery, whatever the focus group tells them is where they will want to continue to move. steve: leader mccarthy, their star witness today really is lieutenant colonel vindman. the democrats are going to portray him as a lifelong public servant. according to the "the washington post," it says the republicans, and it also said that the republican leadership personally involved in developing the strategy, so i would imagine you know something about this, republicans are going to describe him as a low
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level aide who operated outside proper channels, someone who may have been agitating against the president and leaking information. is that an accurate prediction of what we might hear from some republicans today? >> well, i think what you will hear from republicans is simply again what is the truth? did the individual go through the correct process? did the individual have a different philosophical belief? i thank him for his service. he's been a part of the u.s. military. i thank him for that. steve: what do you mean [inaudible] >> i think if he disagrees with the president, the president has a right to put out the foreign policy. if he disagrees with that, it doesn't mean that's impeachment. and i think when you listen to what he has transformed, what he has done and the process in which he has done it. i think may bring doubt in people's minds. once again, what we're finding here is the president did nothing wrong. the president released funding for ukraine. the president actually gave ukraine a javelin that could
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stop russian tanks where obama only gave them blankets. and now they are talking about impeaching a president over this phone call? so i think, getting to the basis of that and just the different philosophy that some democrats may have than this president. this president is carrying out exactly what he said he would do when he campaigned. brian: right. >> it's a little different for people when you have somebody who made promises and keeps them. that's a little different. i think the democrats, what we would find and what we'll find from nancy pelosi again. they are more concerned about the election that they cannot beat them so they feel that they have to impeach him. brian: we will see. she certainly came out partisan over the weekend and said some really disparaging things about the president essentially being a fraud. so, we will see how honest broker she will be. meanwhile, let's pivot to another major story. today criminal charges against two congressional officers responsible. steve: correctional i think you said congressional.
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brian: could come as soon as today. as the federal bureau of prison chief heads to the hill. is he going to be speaking today. we will find out what those guards have to say. obviously they are not multimillionaires. they are not going for a deal right now. now they are, pressed. what do you need to know? >> what i need to know is something a little different. i want to know about abc. i want to know when i found out that amy robach when she talked about that she had this story for three years. that outside influence may have stopped that story. so i have questions for abc. because, remember what we are talking about. we are talking about human trafficking. modern day slavery with young men and women. and we had epstein, a very powerful man, who had already pleaded guilty to soliciting prosecution from a minor and served time where he was so powerful that abc may have stopped a story three years prior? how many minors would we have helped prior? i mean, think about it. when congress used to do things, when we were in the majority and i was the majority leader, we passed an n. a bipartisan manner
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items that would stop human trafficking. we closed back page, the website where this would actually transfer some of the most individuals traded through. our craigslist element. these are things that we would actually fight for. and now what we are finding when nothing is happening in congress. now we are learning that abc stopped a story that could have come out even earlier that may have done something to save some children's lives. who is the voice for them. so i sent a letter to abc. and i expect to get some answers. it's a question about him. because what i found from abc they are doing more to find out who the leaker is, to find out if they were wrong that somebody influenced them than the story didn't run sooner. brian: fired her. ainsley: good for amy robach to be concerned about this and pushing this story and narrative. she is the mother to little girls too. she understands the importance of this. i'm not sure why they spiked this story. brian: she folded and said the story. ainsley: she has a job. she has to do what her boss tells her to do. >> she had a witness come forward that had pictures and had clinton involved and
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others. i'm not talking about the editorial authority of abc. but i think they have a moral authority to answer these questions. what outside influence stopped this story because, would another victim come forward again? would we have stopped and saved other young women and men from human trafficking? ainsley: have you heard back from them? i know you wrote a letter to the president james golsteyn, have you heard back. >> i have not. i sent a letter. i didn't expect to hear back from them this early. i expect to hear back from them. if not, i think we should have hearings on this. steve: all right. kevin mccarthy, thank you very much for joining us on what is going to be another busy day in our nation's capital. >> thank you. brian: week two day three. fox news alert, a standoff underway right now between police and protesters in hong kong. dozens of them hold up inside university. they have no food. we are live to see how this standoff ends. prior to going to aspen dental i've had nineteen surgeries. i'm 100% permanently disabled from the military
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brian: inside look at the college where 100 protesters hunkered down in hong kong at this hour. ainsley: supplies are running low there as police threaten to arrest anyone who leaves. steve: what exactly is going on and why are they there with this story? jonathan hunt joins us live from inside that school. jonathan, who are these people and what are they doing? >> good morning, steve, ainsley, and brian. yeah, we have made it into the heart of hong kong pollock tech university where hundreds of students over the past few days have been hold up in what has been an intense and violent standoff with the hong kong police as those students pressed their demands for greater democracy. what we see around us here is the signs of just how violent it has been. just how intense this standoff has been. i want you to take a look down here, steve, ainsley and brian. this is a tray filled with molotov cocktails. essentially fire bombs ready
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to be thrown at the police. these were not thrown but hundreds more were. and this is where many of them were thrown from. on saturday night. when the hong kong riot police tried to come onto the grounds of this campus, the students were you present here on this raised position looking down on the road there you can see the bricks, the chairs, all the debris that was thrown they riot police as they came forward. on that occasion, the police backed off. but then they took a different tactic. they essentially laid siege to this campus. hundreds, if not thousands of them remain ringed around the entire campus area right now, guys. and they are just playing a waiting game. and it is working. we have dwindled now to i would say a few dozen hard core protesters who remain on this campus. we have not been able to walk through every corner of it. it is a relatively large campus. a few dozen are here. they're holdouts.
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essentially the police are winning their battle. we have seen a stream of students, essentially giving up throughout the day today. where it's now the evening here in hong kong. they have gone out. they have been arrested. every one of them over 18 is being arrested. and taken away, paraded past the media as they are moved out. so the battle of hong kong polytechnique may be over. but the message is perfectly clear. can you see it here written large, ideas are bullet proof. they may have lost in essence this battle but their war for what they believe are their democratic rights will certainly continue. steve, ainsley, brian? brian: do you have any sense, jonathan, that the beijing police are infiltrating the hong kong police? >> we don't have any real sense of that brian. what i can tell you and this was significant. over the weekend there was a
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chinese army barracks here in hong kong. and over the weekend, members of the chinese left their barracks for the first time during the five months of these protests. they went out on to the streets. they were not in full uniform. they were not carrying weapons. very symbolically they went out onto the streets to help in the clear-up. they did not do that without the signoff from the central chinese government in beijing. it was a very symbolic move. it was a peaceful one in that they will weren't armed at the time but clearly, the chinese government walls sending a message our troops are there. we can move them onto the streets and we can take forceful action through the army if and when we want to. steve, ainsley, brian? steve: jonathan hunt "fox news live" hong kong where it's 7:48 tonight. brian: secretary had a brush back yesterday. i'm watching, calm down.
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steve: all arrested. everybody over 18 that is. meanwhile, republican congresswoman elise stefanik was a break-out star during last week's impeachment hearings. did you see her? >> this is the fifth time have you interrupted members of congress. >> gentlewoman not recognized. >> member of congress. >> gentlewoman will suspend. >> some liberals are referring to her as lying trash. tammy bruce is going to stop by as you can see and talk about that coming up next. ♪ this girl is on fire ♪ walking on fire ♪ this girl is on fire ♪ - [spokeswoman] meet the ninja foodi pressure cooker,
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elected members of congress. >> jedges woman will suspend. ainsley: congresswoman elise stefanik is the latest target after she impeachment hearings. the congresswoman was called trash and responded on twitter writing, quote: the one thing i have never been called in my life is trash. liberal celebrity christie teagan then weighed in and said really? i have called you trash before. here to react is fox news contributor and fox nation host tammy bruce. take us back for the audience at home. how did this all happen? how did this start? >> she is on the committee there for the intelligence committee for these hearings. and she is doing her job. right? this -- representative from new york. and asking hard questions we have had an issue with the chairman adam schiff not allowing republicans to ask questions or even call witnesses that it's a very controlled environment. as you saw in that clip, she is doing her job. all of this is political. she is a politician. and she is doing a good job. ainsley: she is a republican from new york. >> exactly.
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in this case i think we can all can say things when we are angry and when you are seeing the reaction to her. this, i think, is much larger. you have this is a hearing with ambassador yovanovitch who is cast as a victim, who is infantilized, presented as a dam sal in stress? one of the most powerful women that we in the power of attorney service. kyrgyzstan armenia and of course ukraine. presented as this wounded deer whereas ms. stefanik who is not conforming, who is standing up, he is being powerful is condemned. that is the messaging. we saw it with the kavanaugh hearings. this is a virtual -- it's essentially the same template. and that's my argument. is women who are standing up, doing their job are condemned, if they do not conform or comply. and the inference is that they are weak or they are not being ladies or they are not behaving properly. that's the problem with the democrats. ainsley: is it that issue or they don't like her narrative? they don't like that she is
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conservative and she is requesting questions of the democrats? >> well, there has been some men who have been doing that as well. some of the men who are republicans are not wall flowers. ainsley: called trash. >> they are not being called names. their masculinity is not being at issue. but it is important, i think, when you see what the democrats are doing, claim to be representatives of women. i think they expected the ambassador yovanovitch narrative to resonate with suburban women. this is all about the campaign next year. whereas, in fact, the democrats we see time and again infantilizing women, elevating women who conform and who present themselves through being intimidated shame on the ambassador for allowing that and then condemning women who don't fall in line. ainsley: kellyanne conway husband george. nikki haley defended. and then george conway got mad at nikki and said she will stoop so low to become the vice presidential nominee. >> i don't know what he is doing or what his issues are but he clearly has some. again, we all make mistakes.
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in this case it's important for people to see what the democrats are doing. ainsley: thank you so much. it is week two of impeachment. about an hour away from it getting started today. sarah huckabee sanders and congressman mark meadows both here live. . . ♪oh there's no place like home for the holidays.♪
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brian: fox news alert the now. live look inside the longworth house office building. we're used to this. week two of the public impeachment hearings begin in less than an hour. steve: four witnesses appear before the house intel committee today. they will walk through the foyer into the big room. we'll see it all live. ainsley: griff jenkins joins us live from the longworth house office building with a preview. two in the morning, two later on, is that right, griff? reporter: that is the plan. good morning. by end of the week you will hear from nine total witnesses. what you're the ifing today, less than an hour, 9:00 a.m., you will have the gavel in, you will have opening statements. swearing in of extensive questioning period we saw last
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week. 45 minutes for majority. 45 minutes for the minority, five minute member rounds. the first witness, lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, jennifer williams, pence's state deemed aide. both were on the july 25th phone call. both said they thought something unusual. williams saying it was inappropriate. colonel vindman raised concerns twice. he felt the president was doing something inappropriate. he felt it a duty to speak out. we will find out when in the afternoon tim morrison a staffer at the nsc, who was vindman's boss testifies, if their stories match up. you will also hear 3:00 in the afternoon, from special envoy kurt volcker. this happens as two transcripts, two depositions were released last night one of undersecretary
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date hale and. david holmes. we were hearing of phone call between the president and ambassador sondland, used salty language, and the president doesn't give an f about ukraine. more interested in investigations. sources here on the hill, tell me the way this breaks down the first two witnesses today vindman and williams are seen as key witnesses for democrats. in the afternoon volcker and morrison more perhaps key fact witnesses for republicans. we'll find out. security is moving around. we're waiting for the first witnesses to arrive, guys. steve: griff, thank you very much. our special coverage starts 28 minutes. sarah. sandra:ers fox news contributor, joins us from little rock, arkansas. good morning to you. >> great to be with you, guys.
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steve: lieutenant colonel vindman who griff is describing is one of the democrat star witnesses. this is the guy who we heard from behind close the doors, adam schiff said, no, no, don't answer republican questions, mr. vindman because they were asking whether or not he was the source for the whistleblower. he is expected to say he does not know the identity of the whistleblower, take that as you will. it will be interesting to see whether or not the republicans go back to that line of questioning on tv today? >> i think it is very possible, certainly likely they will ask that. at the end of the day none of this matters because it's a huge waste of time. the president already released transcripts of calls he had, not just one transcript, but two and all of america can read for themselves, there was no wrongdoing, there was nothing that took place on the calls.
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brian: right. but it is still happening and you're addressing not republicans but moderates and independents with the election coming up. let me ask you, sarah, steve bannon said a couple days ago that he knows who is the whistle-blower is and recommended him to be removed. do you think you know? in a situation like that did you get a sense when someone was not on board with the trump team? >> there were certainly moments i think of people that you didn't feel like were there for the country's best interests and maybe weren't there to implement the president's agenda. let's not forget the only people elected to anything were donald trump and mike pence. the rest of the people that work at the white house serve at the pleasure of the president and they're there to help implement his agenda, his policy. if they're not on board with that, they shouldn't be there. i think that anybody that felt like they didn't agree with this president, they should make the decision to leave, go find a job doing something else.
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i don't think it matters who the whistleblower is. we know that the person was motivated politically. they certainly sound like they coordinated with adam schiff. i think that tells us everything we need to know what a sham this entire process is. the big contrast the president is continuing to focus on getting things done while democrats spend all of their time wasting america's time on this ridiculous impeachment scandal. the big questions i would love to see asked, nancy pelosi are you going to bring usmca to the floor? why is no one in the media asking questions that actually will matter, and have real impact? brian: i agree. >> this entire impeachment sham will go away, no one is paying attention to it now. certainly no one will care about it in a couple weeks but they do care about what is getting done in congress and so far the democrats are making sure that is very little. i think it is time for them to quit trying to destroy the president and actually get something done. we have a few days left for usmca to get finished. i think nancy pelosi needs to
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focus on helping american jobs and american workers and bring that to the floor because it's a great trade deal. it is something that needs to help. ainsley: that is the message the president keeps saying at all the rallies. they're doing nothing. nancy pelosi sent a letter to her democratic colleagues basically saying the president is abusing his power for his own best interest. the facts are uncontested the president used his power at his own personal benefit at the expense of our national security interest. the response to the hearings has been let the election decide. that dangerous position only adds to the urgency of our election because the president is jeopardizing of the integrity of 2020 elections. do you agree with that? >> not at all. the only people jeopardizing the integrity of the elections are people that refuse to accept the results and that has been the democrats. that has been the liberal media. they hated this president since he first started running. they are so focused on taking him down and they are so angry
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they got it wrong in 2016 that they refuse to let that stand. i think they're hearing the 2020 election process but hurting it for themselves. i think this whole sham process is doing helping to propel the president. his favorability is high. his fund-raising is breaking records day after day. the president's doing great. the country is doing better under this president and people know that the democrats have no policy, no winning message. the only thing they can do is spend their time attacking the president. if anybody is jeopardizing the election and integrity of the process, it is people that refuse to accept the results. steve: you know this impeachment inquiry we continue to watch today, our coverage will start in about 22 minutes, is a tv show. the democrats are trying to persuade, persuadable people that the president of the united states did something wrong. sarah, when you look at the statistics about the number of people who were watching, apparently day two was less than
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day one, 95% of the country didn't watch the coverage. >> i was going to say if this is a tv show it should be canceled because no one cares, no one is paying attention because it is such a waste of time. they know at the end of the day this is going nowhere. so far the big star witnesses didn't witness anything. most of them have never met the president. the idea they somehow know the inner-workings what was taking place is absurd. i think, again, this whole thing is about the democrats refusing to accept that the president won in 2016. brian: right. >> they said the economy would crash. it is booming. every time they try to pin something on this president, and make up some ridiculous scandal, we saw two years wasted on mueller. we're watching it unfold again. at some point they have to realize they have to put forth real solution, real policy or the american people will continue to tune them out.
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brian: republicans are pouring $7 million of vulnerable democrats in races, your point of view. brian: that is a waste of time. we'll see how some lawmakers respond to that. if they're still vulnerable and acquiesce to nancy pelosi. sarah, thanks so much. >> great to be with you. ainsley: trump campaign raised more than $3 million in the day one of impeachment. let's hand it over to jillian. jillian: fox news alert. american australian professor just released by the taliban as part of a prisoner swap. kevin king and timothy weeks were freed in afghanistan after being held hostage since 2016. king's family says he is now with american officials in afghanistan. as part of deal the after fan government released three prisoners in account tar. one of the men is the son of the leader of the haqqani terror network. the afghan government hopes this helps brokering peace with the
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taliban. fox news alert. criminal charges against two corrections officers guarding jeffrey epstein could cam as early as day. they are charged with failure to check epstein every half hour and fabricating logs to look like they did. kevin mccarthy is outraged that the abc may have sparked spiked a story about epstein three years ago. >> so powerful, abc stopped a story three years prior? how many minors would we have expected to help. i will get answers. jillian: epstein is believed to have hung himself in new york city jail. they will investigate possible mistakes in the federal bureau of positions. president trump's position sets his record straight about the recent visit to the hospital. the doctor issued a letter, last weekend's trip to walter reed military medical center, part of a quote, routine planned interim check up. the president has not had any
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chest pain nor evaluated or treated for any urgent issues. say bye-bye to beibei. he will leave the smithsonian national zoo to head for china. he is on loan from the chinese government like most american pandas in american zoos. he is four years old. he will go to conservation center where he will eventually enter a breeding program. he will fly to china style. check this out. fedex slapped his plane -- face on the plane. brian: is it true pandas look-alike? ainsley: they all look a lot a like. only panda has his own plane. steve: absolutely, postively, have to get back home. i. brian: i wish i knew how the panda mania started. for the entire life we've been
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interested in pandas and procreation. i have no interested in pandas. i don't care if they're all gone tomorrow. steve: what? brian: i don't need papped todays. ainsley: so many people will come after you. brian: started after the nixon administration. let the world take course. if we're not supposed to have pandas. ainsley: everybody just doesn't want to talk about trade and china. brian: i know. if they don't want to procreate, don't make them. steve: all right. glad we had that conversation. pictures inside after hong kong university where there is a stand off between police and protesters. there was. jonathan hunt will report there live next. brian: congressman mark meadows with an update on the impeachment inquiry hearing that is about to get underway. ♪ ♪
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someone new joins your network... only with xfinity xfi. download the xfi app today. steve: a fox news alert. an inside look at a college where hundreds of protesters are hunkered down in hong kong right there. supplies running low as police threaten to arrest anybody who leaves. jonathan hunt joins us live from inside of the school where it is 8:15 tonight in hong kong.
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jonathan? reporter: steve, good morning in the last hour i was showing molotov cocktails, gasoline bombs essentially used by the students here. this, what you're looking at right now is the bomb-making factory, essentially, that was set up right in the heart of hong kong polytechnic university. as you look down here. all the ingredients you need for bomb-making. bleach, methanol, gasoline, oil, they're all here by the dozen if not a hundred. look further around the corner, see how completely trash this university campus has been by what has been a very violent and intense standoff. as we walk around the corner into what is the main plaza. you can see the debris left everywhere here. this is where hundreds of student stood against the hong kong riot police. they were throwing rocks,
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chairs, everything they could from the upper level, down over to the lower levels where the riot police tried to make an entrance on saturday night. they weren't able to do that. so they fought them off and then they laid siege, the police to this. i just want to bring you back around here. this is the main entrance here, guys. this is where it appears some of the hardcore are preparing to make a last stand. we saw just a few moments ago some completely masked and armor-wearing protesters come through here. one carrying a bow and arrow which was used to shoot a police officer over the weekend. they're also carrying baseball bats. they seem to be preparing what could be a last stand. we'll stay right here in the center of hong kong polytechnic university. we'll keep you updated if the police do make another entrance, and we have another showdown between the protesters and the hong kong riot police. steve?
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steve: jonathan hunt live in hong kong with the latest. fluid situation. all right, brian. brian: as you know the big story that will be taking place today is day three, week two. we're looking now, what just happened moments ago. this is lieutenant colonel alexander vindman. he arrives. he will kick off the festivities the impeach hearing along with jennifer williams. he is going through the metal detector. he will be obviously in his military garb and medals he earned on his chest. democrats are saying treat him with respect. i don't think republicans have to be reminded. that is one of the challenges that maybe he was overstepping bounds from a president who was elected to set policy. we'll see what he has to say. not much of a mystery when those behind closed doors when vindman spoke. joining us mark meadows. in the room when this is going on but not on that committee. thanks for joining us.
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jennifer williams, special advisor for europe and russia and vice president. will be there along with alexander vindman. speaking to the colonel. what do you think the republicans will focus on? >> the lieutenant colonel will come into a line of questioning quite frankly based on other testimony that we've heard. some of the other testimony that we've heard have questioned sometimes his judgment. not his service to the country, but his judgment what he shares and whom he shares it with. i believe he will get asked about other witnesses, specifically comment that allegedly have been made by fiona hill and mr. morrison and yet at the end of the day this really boils down to one thing. the president of the united states not only did not condition aid but he has the right to set foreign policy. what you're seeing play out today is really all about the swamp trying to say, we have a better idea than the president
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of the united states, and the american people in terms of what should happen with foreign aid. brian: what is interesting, ron johnson went over there, along with senator murphy. he met with leaders of ukraine. they knew nothing about aid being denied or delayed. what he said about vindman, he has an alternative narrative. he says vindman said this in his testimony, that the president was, rudy giuliani was talking about inconsistent with the consensus views of the relevant federal agencies and undermining and was undermining the consensus policy. that is what johnson said. there is a problem. american foreign policy is what the president determines it to be, not consensus. is he right to explore that? >> well certainly he is right to explore that. it is not only that, brian. when we look at throughout all of the foreign policy history in our country, it has been the president of the united states who has actually dictated that. here is the interesting thing. people are tuning out, you know,
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you're viewers will tune in today. what they will hear from miss williams that the vice president of the united states met with president zelensky, did not bring up investigations, did not bring up any conditionality as it relates to aid. in fact just the opposite. it was a good meeting, a perfect meeting and when we look at that we'll start to see that the very elevated, the highest ranking officials in the u.s. and ukraine didn't have a problem with that. but here's the other aspect. the american people are starting to tune out. there is a poll out this morning, powe lit call morning consult poll, support for impeachment after last week is waning. that is because they know what this is all about. this is a partisan attack on a duly-elected president of the united states. brian: so, congressman, would you say, being you have influence with the president, mutual respect i think it is safe to say, the president would be better off not tweeting during this, not getting engaged while it is happening?
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>> well i think that at this particular point the only thing that the president has had in his defense has not been an attorney. he has not been able to be afforded to be in the room. so some would understand why he is reaching out trying to get his narrative out. that being said, i think what we'll see today is not only a sleepy, kind of day that goes from morning to afternoon, a good day for the president. i don't know he will be commenting on any witnesses. i don't speak for the president. but at the same time, i think these witnesses ultimately at the end of the day will be a within for the president and night. brian: so you're predicting a sleepy afternoon. that would disappoint a lot of democrats. jennifer williams, alexander vindman this morning. the colonel just walked in. the afternoon kurt volcker who said he was left out of the loop and timothy morrison. that is the lineup for today. gordon sondland on wednesday. that will be the headliner.
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this will extend to monday, david holmes, a senior official will be part of the coverage. congressman meadows, look forward to the after-action report later on today sometime in the channel. thank you, mark. >> you got the, brian. brian: impeachment testimony continues. we'll tell you as it happens, while it happens. if you're on medicare, remember, the annual enrollment period is here.
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apparently the republicans behind closed doors during his transcribed testimony talked a little bit about how differently he interpreted the call because neither jennifer williams, who is also going to be testifying, mike pence aide, nor tim morrison, his boss, lodged any complaint with supervisors or warned the white house attorneys. so, they complained that vindman did not go through the proper chain of command. >> you mentioned three of those individuals. last one to be questioned today is kurt volcker. they start at 9:00 this morning with the first two and then the other two on the right side of your screen later in the afternoon. >> for the most part the republicans will look to this. no personal attacks. they will make it clear if the president of ukraine didn't feel pressure, if the foreign minister of ukraine didn't feel pressure. >> money was not withheld. >> money not withheld, problems with the transcript are problems with the transcript.
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whatever you say it is what exactly is the problem. pressure campaign is happening in every walk of life. conditioned aid is in every walk. the big picture too is if you didn't like it. does this really rise to impeachment? i think that will be their focus. >> there are nine witness this is week. jim jordan to your point said the same thing. i don't care how many witnesses you call. follow the facts. >> first-hand information for the first time. that jennifer williams and vindman they heard it. steve: but at the same time, you know, how many people actually had, were so freaked out by it, then they started telling people, we know mr. vindman did. kevin mccarthy, minority leader on this program earlier. he said it would be interesting to see if the republicans go ahead with the line of questioning about, if he was simply freaked out because he had a different philosophy of about the u.s. policy regarding the ukraine. the in other words, it is the president who sets policy. mr. vindman might not have liked it. but then again not his job.
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>> public hearings today, tomorrows thursday. >> will be interesting to see if the president is watching or will he just tune it out. steve: special coverage of the congressional impeachment inquiry starts right now. ♪. bill: good morning it is now day three of the impeachment probe set to begin in the house. this will be a marathon week of public hearings, set to begin 30 men's from now. in total you will hear from nine witnesses, four of them today. two of them to be sworn in in a few moments. they're live on capitol hill. our special coverage begins now as well. bill hemmer live in new york city. we'll find out what we get today, together. sandra, nice to see you. sandra: good morning. i'm sandra smith. it's a jam-packed week. nine witnesses across three days. all facing a grilling from the house intelligence committee. four set to testify today. two in the morning. two in the afternoon. at 9:00 a.m. two officials who
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listened in on the ukraine call will appear together and speak publicly for the very first time. bill: so who are they? first jennifer williams, served as special advisor to vice president mike pence on europe and russia matters. she testified about four hours in a closed-door hearing on 7th of november. she said she took notes listen on the phone call july 25th, between presidents trump and zelensky. sandra: sitting next to her, lieutenant colonel alexander vindman. he listened in on two trump zelensky calls including the one on july 25th. he reported concerns about the call to nsc lawyers. he confront ad nsc with ambassador sondland over some of his actions. he had concern over trump's quote demand for ukraine to investigate the bidens. bill: our team in place. best you will find. bret baier, chris wallace in
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washington. martha maccallum live in new york city and. will hurd will be inside the hearing room. thank you for your time today. good morning to you. >> good morning. always a pleasure to be on. deirdre: what do you want to learn today, sir? >> well, today i think the hearing in the afternoon is going to be more reveler to. those had more access to principals involved in the case. i said the impeachment inquiry is premature. we have not been able to gather all the fact the. in previous impeachment inquiries, previous statement of facts gathered by the fbi. we haven't seen that in this case. this morning's hearing, will see chairman schiff interrupting republicans as he has done in previous hearings, interrupting our questioning, our time to try to gather the facts.
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in the first hearing this morning you will hear from folks about what their opinions were of the call and what may have happened but i want to get to what did, when did the ukrainians know pieces of information? what was the reason behind the use of the word investigations. these are some of the questions i want to hear about but i don't think i'm going to get the questions this morning. bill: you dot not think you're going to get those. that is jennifer williams arif rifed in the -- arrived in the red dress. she was in the first meeting meg with zelensky. also on the phone call of the 25th of july. some of your republican colleagues said this has all been a waste of time of the has it been? >> i think it is premature. i said when the whistleblower made his or her allegations there were things in those allegations that required investigation.
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i think congress should use its investigative power in order to understand that but i don't believe the house permanent select committee on intelligence is the right forum to investigate this. none of these matters we're talking about involved classified information or intelligence operations. look, we just had the russians take over a military base in northern syria, that we built. we have the russians looking to buy a, the venezuelan oil company in venezuela. we have the russians still trying to use this information against us. there is a lot of, a lot of other areas the house permanent select committee on intelligence should be using our oversight role and civilian oversight of the intelligence community. these questions would have better been explored in other committees. bill: alexander vindman arrived moments ago. he will appear side by side with jennifer williams. do you know what contact he had
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with the senate intelligence committee? you yourself being former cia, do you know if he had direct contact with the whistleblower? >> i don't know that i don't know the identity of the whistleblower. i think it is important for us to understand what contact the whistleblower did have, not just with both the intelligence community but with the intelligence committee as well. we already know, that adam schiff has not been accurate in his statements on his or his offices contact with the whistleblower. we condition protect the whistleblower's identity. how we handle the whistleblower impacts whistleblowers in the future. we should have the whistleblower come testify. we can do that in a classified environment, in a closed environment in order to protect this information because it is important to understand the motivations behind the original complaint and who all was
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coordinated with prior to the, that information coming to the committee. bill: i know you have to get inside the room, how important do you believe in a word or two about hunter biden's appointment on the burisma board? >> corruption is important. it has been endemic in ukraine for a long time. i would love to hear from him and rudy giuliani as well. bill: will hurd, republican from texas leaving the office at the end of his term. jennifer williams arrived, as i mentioned before born in houston, texas, educated at georgetown, masters at princeton. she will be front and center in matter of minutes. sandra: bret baier, chris wallace, martha maccallum. i will ask you first, who is jennifer williams, and why is her public testimony of so interest? >> jennifer williams worked for vice president pence. she is one of the few people who listened in to the call, the now infamous call between president
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trump and president zelensky of ukraine. she and lieutenant colonel vindman will be the first witnesses out of the block. described as key witnesses by democrats in part. it is no longer hearsay. they were on the call. also they expressed concerns about that call. it's a delicate challenge for republicans on questioning of lieutenant colonel vindman. they are going to, it seems try to discredit him, possibly working against the president's interests. obviously he is a purple heart recipient. a veteran with a long, lifelong public service. and i would expect to see the questions start with, thank you for your service to the country. but, xyz. did you believe -- he was born in ukraine. a ukrainian expert but he expressed concern about that call just after july 25th. sandra: correct. vindman says he then confronted sondland. this is july 10, brought up the investigations into ukrainian officials during that white house meeting and so,
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martha, you just wonder, based on what we just heard from the congressman, involving when did the ukraines, what did they know, when did they know it. what was behind the use of the word investigations. expect to hear a lot more of that in the hearing room in just a few minutes. >> absolutely. we expect colonel vindman will say he had concerns about it for some time. as you point out a july 10th phone call which he expressed some of those concerns. remember back on thursday, the ukraine foreign minister spoke out and said that he had no understanding that there was any link between the military aid and any promises for investigations. i think, last week, the witnesses did a pretty good job, in terms of their own opinion, stating that they, they had the understanding that investigations was sort of the word that encompassed looking into 2016 and also looking into joe biden and hunter biden. so that will be obviously an area they continue to look at. when you go back, there were sort of two big moments in the
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testimony we saw last week. one was when the president tweeted in the middle of the ambassador's testimony. we'll see whether or not he decides he wants to insert himself into any testimony that, it comes through today. also the fact that bill taylor had a new piece of information. he had a phone call that happened in ukrainian restaurant. according to subsequent reports on that, president was speaking so loudly that sondland pull the phone away from his ear. and that is how he heard the call. the public perception all of this, a new focus group put out by america first, suburban voters who are not so far convinced according to this focus group, what they're hearing amounts to a impeachable offense. that is what this whole thing boils down to. what they watch this, what do they walk away with, are they convinced this is what democrats
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purported to be at this point. sandra: put that to chris wallace joining us now as well. chris in terms of public opinion there are not dispositive polls. what surprises me, audience, let's face it, hearings is not the best build up for what we're been to watch have not been scintillating. it hasn't been joan dean taking us inside the oval office. i think tomorrow will be interesting with gordon sondland. but 13.2, whatever million people watched on wednesday, 12.7 million watched, that is not a high point. that is on average across the 6, 7, hours, a lot of people are engaged and are watching this. i want to pick up on something bret said. i think the two witnesses this morning, this afternoon, we'll get to those witnesses, jennifer williams and alexander vindman, two things are interesting. they were both listening in on
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the call. they were both immediately upset by what was said on the call. it didn't go to the president's talking points. specifically mention of domestic politics, investigating whether democrats were involved with ukraine interfering in the 2016 election, investigating the bidens, jennifer williams, again a state department officer who was deployed and was working as a national security advisor to vice president pence in her testimony called it quote, unusual and inappropriate. alexander vindman, the lieutenant colonel was so upset he immediately went to the top lawyer at the national security council and expressed his concerns about this. one, i'm interested in their telling what it was about the phone calls they found so troubling. secondly, is how the republicans are going to treat them because the president has been pretty direct in attacking both of these people. he has called both of these people who work inside of his
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white house never-trumpers. there is this growing argument, you heard it in a letter from ron johnson, republican senator head of the homeland security committee which he suggested there were members of the administration, he might well have been talking about vindman and williams who were at odds with the president's foreign policy and had their own view about the way it should be conducted. to the degree they go after these two as never-trumpers or deep state operatives, it will be interesting to see how they do it. as bret pointed out it's a little touchy, it's a little delicate when you get to lieutenant colonel vindman who -- has served in the military for two decades. two, a survivor of an ied attack in iraq. ended up getting a purple heart for that. i think it will be very interesting to see how republicans and how directly and aggressively they go after the two witnesses this morning. sandra: walk to bring bret back in here.
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the hearing room is being filled up. the public attendees will enter hearing room. chairman adam schiff will gavel in and hearing will be underway. what makes this week obviously with two witnesses they were on the call. congressman hurd talking to bill a few moments ago, we will hear opinions from these two witnesses on what they heard on that phone call. the gop strategy had been to talk about hearsay last week with many of the witnesses. what will the gop strategy be today, bret? >> well, one, what the president has been saying read the transcript of the call. it is right there for anybody. you don't have to listen somebody on the call describe it. you read it. they will say it was straightforward in their mind. but again we've talked about this since the beginning. there are two sides looking at the same thing, seeing something completely different. it is not just the call obviously. it is what was happening around the call.
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it was the efforts of rudy giuliani and others. later this afternoon, i think you're going to hear some witnesses that are republican called but they will perhaps illuminate a little bit more on that other lane of the giuliani, call it the three amigos the democrats call it, trying to do policy outside of the normal chain. today is a delicate dance for republicans but remember, because a person is in uniform, served admirably, received a purple heart, doesn't mean they don't have the potential to possibility of going against the president's policy even working inside of the white house. it will be interesting to see how republicans ask those questions. clearly its the way they're headed. sandra: we await gaveling in, opening statements. questions begin. thanks to everybody there. stand by. bill: chairman of the committee
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♪. bill: to the minute, 8:28 in washington, d.c. public impeachment hearings getting underway. we're getting word jennifer williams will begin with her opening statement followed by lieutenant colonel vindman after that. john roberts, welcome back to the big city. fox contributor former special counsel ken starr is with our coverage. you were terrific last week. welcome back to another day. we go back inside the room late july in the white house. who do you believe has more to gain today, adam schiff or republicans on the committee, sir? >> i would divide the day. i think morning belongs to adam schiff because the symbolism is very powerful, bill. we are moving from far away ukraine, ambassador, the bill taylor, the state department, foggy bottom, george kept. now we're coming into the very core of the white house itself. as well as real witnesses, as
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opposed to those who had second, third hand information and so forth and each will express we think according to their testimony previously a profound concern about the insertion of american political concerns into the conduct of u.s. foreign policy. it is adam schiff's morning. bill: will hurd a moment ago said what are we doing? there is matters of significance all over the world. specifically he mentioned issues in syria. do you find today, with the strong resume's on behalf of the vindman and williams difficult to impugn their character. they have served the country in noble ways. vindman has a purple heart awarded to him after being hit by an ied in iraq in 2004. does it go as opposed to character individual, the actual policy dispute that is on display today? is that where you go? >> i think so but there is no
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policy dispute. the question is the right thing in the wrong place? do you see what i'm saying? the president of the united states should not be in the conduct of u.s. foreign policy with very important, this is the perspective. the republicans can disagree with that, say you're making too much out of it and so forth. i think what we're going to hear from what witnesses today, regular order, president stay on message about importance of ukraine, especially vis-a-vis about the russian threat. will hurd is so powerful. this is woefully premature. this fact-finding should have been done by the fbi or a special counsel. instead here we are. bill: you divided the day in two i heard at outset of your answer there. in the afternoon, kurt volcker, tim morrison, we'll be familiar with them by the end of the day. they are described to me as two witnesses can go right to the argument, shooting down bribery or allegations of extortion or
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quid pro quo. would you expect that from today, from them today. and perhaps could you make the case that they're, white house's strongest witnesses in their favor, ken? >> yes. i think the afternoon belongs to the white house absolutely. kurt volcker is so experienced, widely respected. we established a record last week, respected for his integrity and honesty and so forth. he will put it in a broader perspective. what was the president of the united states talking about? he was talking about corruption, wrongdoing and the like and in the context of a thrust of ukraine with this new reform president having won 70% of the vote and having turned out poroshenko with whom ambassador yovanovitch was close to. which was a factor that didn't get emphasized last week. we'll have much more of a broader policy education this
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afternoon. this morning will be narrower. you just don't raise u.s. politics in a conversation with a foreign leader. bill: it will be a long day. ken starr, stand by from dallas, texas. thank you for standing by on the pregame. >> thank you. sandra: john roberts is here in our studio in new york city. good morning to you and welcome. first off the president said yesterday in the tweet that he would strongly consider his words, nancy pelosi's invitation to testify in this impeachment inquiry process. will he do it? >> i think that was probably more a shot at democrats than it was potential opening that the president might testify in some way, even written answers to questions. i think it is really pointing out democrats in his estimation are not doing the work of the country. they're doing political work here. that said though, i mean you can never say never with this guy, right? we never thought he would give written answers to any questions to robert mueller. i would say the odds are strongly against it, sandra.
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as always with president trump never rule anything out. sandra: never. john, the changing strategy on the white house with these hearings, what do you expect cops out of the white house as the hearings continue? >> they will be responding with the rapid response organization everything that happens on capitol hill. they are counterprograming. the white house is holding a media row, 80 media online outlets are president doing a few interviews as well as labor secretary scalia. the talking about the labor policy. importance of passing the usmca. this is to reinforce the white house says, the democrats are doing this process up on capitol hill but they're not doing the work of the nation. we're doing the work of the nation. sandra: gop senator ron john son penned this letter to house republicans. this happened yesterday. in that letter he questions the credibility of one of the witnesses we are about to hear from, lieutenant colonel alexander vindman.
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what was the point of that letter, what did you take away from that, john? >> chris wallace pointed out discredit any testimony from alexander vindman's mouth. he potentially doesn't agree on the president as foreign policy, doesn't accept him as president. there is significant moment where johnson says that he spoke with ambassador sondland. sondland believed aid to ukraine was conditioned opening on the investigations. so johnson calls the president and says i asked him about whether there was some kind of arrangement where ukraine would take some action and hold would be lifted? without hesitation president trump i will immediately denied such an arrangement existed of the as i reported in "the wall street journal" i quoted the president as saying expletive deleted, no way i would ever do that. that is coming from a u.s. senator. that is pretty strong corroboration with the president that he said there was no quid pro quo. sandra: we are about to the see the hearing underway moments from now. john roberts thank you. bill: few folks coming into the room. not quite full.
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this could be a marathon day, possibly going into the evening hours. so day three begins pins from now. we'll hear from the, for the first time rather from witnesses who listened to phone call back in late july. so, how will they describe it? how will republicans conduct their cross-examination. a day of intrigue lies ahead when we continue right after this break. imagine traveling hassle-free with your golf clubs.
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week of public hearings about to get underway. it will be a long way as we say good morning. our coverage continues. i'm bill hemmer live in new york. cast of thousands to help you get through it including you. >> good morning, i'm sandra smith. four witnesses set to appear today. first we'll hear from two witnesses who did listen in on the july 25th phone call between president trump and the president of ukraine. >> want to bring back our panel squeeze in as many thoughts as we can. bret, to you first i'm looking at vindman's resume. born in kiev, ukraine, age 44. came to the u.s. at age 4. raised in brooklyn, new york. fluent in russian and ukrainian. insured in the iraq war of 2004 and carries a purple heart. what do you think we'll hear from him today? >> i think you'll hear concern. concern that he had. he expr
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