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colorado high school. it was returned. police trying to identity theft thieves. by the way rob gronkowski has until the 30th to tell the patriots whether he is coming back. rob: he looks buckier. we will see. jillian: we will see, bye. ♪ good morning. ains good morning. steve: that's right. live in the mezzanine level of studio f "fox & friends." another slow news week, right? ainsley: week two of the impeachment inquiry and day two of that second week. brian: could be day four overall. 11 and a half hours yesterday. late into the night. one of the things you couldn't listen on sirius radio. you had to know who is talking. who is saying this? who is saying this now? it went to 7:30 at night eastern time.
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>> steve: that's why we watch television. brian: sometimes you are stuck in the car. steve: we are glad you are watching fox news channel. ainsley: let's break it down if you didn't watch 11 and a half hours of it all. steve: president said yesterday at the cabinet meeting the republicans were killing it on capitol hill. right now, we have a fox news alert. three new witnesses in impeachment hearings later today. brian: all right. all eyes on the u.s. ambassador from the european union gordon sondland. ainsley: griff jenkins joins us live there were major moments on capitol hill yesterday. griff: there was indeed. good morning, ainsley, brian and steve. i watched so you don't have to. the day began with lieutenant colonel alex vindman testified the 25th call at the center of the hearing was inappropriate and improper. he was joined by jennifer williams. fireworks flew when vindman was asked who he was talking
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about that call with. >> what agency was this individual from? >> i'm not going to answer that here. we don't want to use these proceedings. >> it's our time. >> we need to protect the prib. >> you testified in the deposition that you did not know who the whistleblower was. >> i do not know who the whistleblower is. griff: when it dime speaker pelosi's fundamental allegation that a crime was commit you had, republicans dug. in. >> you have never used the word bribery or bribe to explain president trump's conduct, correct? >> no, sir. >> colonel vindman, you haven't neither. >> that is correct. griff: in the afternoon, key testimony came from special envoy kurt volker the point man leading ukrainian policy for the u.s. and in effort moorsson republicans gearing in on policy. >> the president of the united states ever say to
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you that he was not going to allow aid to the united states to go to the ukraine unless there were investigations into burisma, the bidens or the 2016 elections? >> no, he did not. >> at the end of the day though, the man leading it all, chairman adam schiff just blasted republicans for defending president trump. listen. >> their objection is he got caught. their objection is that someone blew the whistle. he ended up releasing the aid. yes, after he got caught. >> as you mention, brian, ambassador gordon sondland is up next. all eyes on him. is he truly the wild card, republicans and democrats both want to talk to him he spoke most indirectly with president trump. we don't know how it's going to go. in the afternoon two more witnesses pentagon official laura cooper along with undersecretary of state david hail. brian: thanks for watching so we don't have to. griff jenkins, thanks so much.
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we did. steve: we did. brian: see how red adam schiff's face was 11 and a half hours unable to score the knockout blow that's how red your face gets. steve: that's not so red right there. it could be earlier in the day. i thought it was extraordinary keep in mind adam schiff has said i don't know the identity of the whistleblower. and vindman was testified in the past i don't know the identity of the whistleblower. and so yesterday, when nunes was saying okay, so who did you tell your people about what you heard on the phone call? he said well, i told this person and that person george kent and this other person in the intel committee. nunes says brian bine we have 17 agencies. steve: you can go ahead and tell us more. for him, for mr. schiff to say we are out to protect the whistleblower, it looks like he just outed the whistleblower. vindman is the guy who talked to the whistleblower. ainsley: he says he does not no. jim jordan said i don't believe you. >> you know, as i indicated
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before this committee will not be used to out the whistleblower. >> i don't see how this is outing the whistleblower. the witness has testified in his deposition he doesn't know who the whistleblower is have you said, even though no one believes you, you have said you don't know who the whistleblower is. ainsley: adam schiff won't even look at him. brian: two things. number one, if you are going to try to blow up the put, you have the right to do it. there is ways you can keep your anonymity and let both sides find out where you are coming from and if you have a political ax to gribsd. that's the point that doesn't mean there are not other issues to discuss. they are allowing that to be out there because he is not budging on this. certainly looked like the lieutenant colonel was about to name somebody who the "new york times" says is a cia agent with a political slant. steve: i don't know that he was going to name him because in closed door testimony, when vindman was testifying, it was adam schiff who said, no, no, no, no. don't answer that question. once again, we wondered at the beginning of the hearings yesterday whether or not adam schiff would say
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that. he did that. brian: meanwhile, let's just talk about gordon sondland for a second. he was the u.n. ambassador that donated to the president's campaign. steve: a million dollars to the inaugural. brian: president obviously had some trust in him because they had cell phone number reportedly. and they were in communication, it seems. goneld gordon sondland amended his testimony. when he came out he first testified that he never thought there was any precondition on the aid to the ukraine. but two weeks later he amended the testimony saying i said the resumption of u.s. aid would likely not occur until ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for weeks. so both sides are going to look for him to expand on that. what's interesting is the president came out yesterday and said i barely know him. i don't want to give him the sense that he is isolated. if you feel as though that european ambassador, your au ambassador could hurt that's probably not the right thing to say.
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steve: he was clear in the beginning. the president made it very clear there was no quid pro quo. it will be interesting to see what he says today. ainsley: he is going to be testifying at 9:00 in the morning. laura cooper deputy secretary of defense for korean and asian affairs testifying in the afternoon: for political affairs testify at 4:30. steve: she is the one who coordinated the u.s. aid to ukraine. david hail is interesting. because he was the under secretary of state for political affairs. and so he had explicit knowledge of what the aid was withheld. he also apparently is involved in -- he is a friend maria yovanovitch, the ambassador. she asked him for help when she felt she was being slammed with these online stories about her. so it will be interesting because, remember, her testimony about how her feelings were hurt when she was let go. he is going to provide some
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color to that story. brian: real quick on the morning session with sondland, the big thing someone has not addressed and no one else has seen and no one has questioned when david holmes came out said i was in a restaurant having a bottle of wine. i listen over the eu ambassador talking to the president. amazingly he heard both sides of the phone call. after the which time sondland said to -- to the president that zelensky, well your blank and cares about big things. we have not seen sondland say that's true or not true. i find it hard to believe that people just accept that you can hear both sides of a phone call 5,000 miles away. i have never heard both sides of a phone call when you have it to your ear. ainsley: congresswoman elise stefanik has been raked over the columns for asking the tough questions. doing her job. she asked volker if there was any quid pro quo. listen to what she said.
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>> the truth is the facts are indeed not complicated. i will close out with two questions for the both of you. did ukraine open an investigation into the by dense, mr. morrison? >> not to my knowledge, man. >> ambassador volker. >> not to my knowledge, either. >> did either of you either have any evidence of quid pro quo, mr. morrison. >> no man. >> ambassador volker. >> did i not. >> any evidence of bribery? >> no, ma'am. no, ma'am. steve: i'm confused. isn't that the democrats' entire case they just blew that up. then it was interesting, there were a couple of the witnesses who said and they would have knowledge of it, that hunter biden's $50,000 a month job on the burisma board appeared to be a conflict of interest and she continued this way. >> constituents in new york 21 have many concerns about the fact that hunter biden, the son of the vice president, sat on the board of a corrupt company like burisma. the obama administration state department was also concerned. and, yet, adam schiff
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refuses to allow this committee to call hunter biden despite our requests. every witness who has testified and has been asked this has answered yes. do you agree that hunter biden on the board of burisma has the potential for the appearance of a conflict of interest? >> certainly the potential, yes. >> and ms. williams? >> yes. steve: there is go yeses. brian: here is what i think is significant. devin nunes as soon as he got ahold of his 45 after schiff got ahold of his 45 minutes. he just looked at these great witnesses and said are you aware of all the things that happened leading up to 2016? and all the problems that were happening in the ukraine? it had nothing to do with them, the witnesses, had nothing to do with trump, but they were victims of it. he just wanted to say there is more to the story than the tunnel that you are in. and the president does not have the ability to stay in your tunnel. he has to look at the big picture. and the big picture, he still wants to know what
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happened in 2016 and he had every reason to pursue burisma and wonder why the vice president in charge of the ukraine let a lot of this stuff go on. steve: the big picture is that people are starting to tune out. tv ratings going down. if you look at the politico poll that came out yesterday, since the impeachment inquiry has start dollars, thstarted. the support for the inquiry has gone down two points. the opposition to it has gone up three points. that is not good for the democrats. ainsley: the president was upset with nancy pelosi yesterday because he says she is not letting anything get done. the usmca is sitting on her desk. she is not signing that. instead, they are focused on impeachment. brian: hopefully we have good news on that soon. man news opinion here no push back on tossing to jillian. jillian: thank you very much. i like that unanimous approval. a helicopter crash killed two american service members in afghanistan overnight. the cause of the incident is under investigation.
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but the military does not believe the chopper was shot down. 19 american service members have died in afghanistan this year. the crash comes one day after the taliban swapped an american and australian hostage for three terror commanders held by the afghan government. also breaking overnight, law enforcement under attack. a narcotics investigator shot and killed in augusta, georgia while trying to keep his community safe. ridly was on routine patrol when he was gunned down. the shooter was also wounded. ridly is the 36th officer shot and killed in the line of duty this year. a chicago officer shot in the head while hunting down a bank robber. he is in serious condition. police shot and killed the suspect. a top military admiral expected to announce a review to determine whether navy seal h eddie gallagher should keep his trident pin. reinforce good order and discipline. earlier this year gallagher was acquitted of acquitting
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a isis fighter in iraq. reused to rank for posing with the fighter's dead body. president trump signed an order on friday restoring his rank. have you heard about mattel trying to take the politics out of your thanksgiving gathering. the company releasing a nonpartisan version of the card game uno without the red or blue cards. the toy maker says no red or blue cards means no taking sides. instead they will be orange and purple. 40% admit that opposing political views cause problems for their family. ainsley: thank goodness. i was wondering when they were going to do that. i was losing sleep. seriously? >> brian: last game i played was battle ship. steve: and your brother sank it. brian: so stressful. ainsley: thanks, jillian. steve: this is another big story.
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was jeffrey epstein's death tied to a larger criminal enterprise. the phish is now investigating that our next ges a formal federal prosecutor and says there are red flags popping up all over. ainsley: plus, atheist parents say this school district is too christian and now they are suing. do they have a case? ♪ ♪ ♪ applebee's new sizzlin' entrées. now starting at $9.99.
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>> i think the evidence points towards homicide rather than suicide. ainsley: why? >> there are multiple fractures in the hyoid bone the thyroid cartilage that are very unusual for suicide and more indicative of strangulation. homicidal strangulation. steve: there have you forensic pathologist dr. michael baden revealing on this show bombshell claim his cause of death. investigating his death as being a criminal enterprise. this as the two guards on duty the night epstein died are facing criminal charges. bet tolman is a former u.s. attorney for utah he joins us right now from salt lake city. brett, good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. >> what do you make of what is going on behind the scenes with the fbi looking into this? yesterday the two correctional officers were charged here in new york
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being essentially asleep at the wheel. they never checked on him. they were doing online shopping and napping when whatever was happening in his cell was happening in his cell. >> yeah. i mean, if you look at this, it's very possible that this is just a dereliction of duty and that these guards made the mismistake of not following through. you would have to look at it in a vacuum and come to that conclusion and ignore everything else that's gone on with this case against epstein. steve: all right. yesterday, there was an interesting exchange between lindsey graham up on capitol hill and the woman who was the bureau of prisons director. watch this. >> with a case this high profile, there has got to be a major malfunction of the system or a criminal enterprise at foot to allow this to happen. so are you looking at both? is the fbi looking at both?
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>> if the fbi is involved, then they're looking at criminal enterprise, yes. steve: they're looking at a criminal enterprise. what does that tell you? >> these prosecutions. they are very loud in volume even though they are somewhat quiet in charges. what i mean by that is they charge these guards very early. there is an ongoing investigation into everything that occurred and why this was allowed to happen. you get the sense that they charged them very quickly. in order to apply pressure. to find out everything that they know. that's why you see them both charged -- the charges are a place holder while they look at is there conspiracy? are there more people that are involved in this? are there inconsistencies with suicide? when you take that in contrast to how epstein was treated by the feds when he was investigated in florida, you have to be concerned that there is more than just these guards. ignore the highest profile
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defendant they have housed for 8 hours. steve: right. so, when lindsey graham said it was either major malfunction or a criminal enterprise. and you keep talking about conspiracy. there are a lot of people who just want to know what really happened. >> that's right. we want to know because we're tired of being in the dark. and especially, it's scary when it's someone that has so many connections to powerful people. steve: yeah. >> ends up dying when he is supposed to be on suicide watch. it's more than coincidental. steve: the many victims would like some answers. brett tollman, we thank you very much for joining us live from salt lake city. >> thank you. steve: meanwhile, straight ahead on this wednesday, democrats say they do not know who the whistleblower is is that really true? congressman lee zeldin has his doubts and he is going to break them down for you coming up next.
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brian: all right. here we go. quick headlines a long time u.s. asylum officer slams the policy of keeping illegal border crossers in mexico until their case comes up. >> these policies are blatantly illegal. they are immoral. and, indeed, are the a success for some egregious human rights violations by our own country. brian: i think eventually he leans up towards the microphone. the government leader referring to the migrant protection policy put into place earlier this year. and a major news agency withdraw as story about the wrong information about migration under the trump administration. the afp, the story that claimed there were more than 100,000 children in detention centers right now. well, that number was actually from 2015.
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this guy named president barack obama was president then. the president's war room tweeted this: nothing to see here. big mistake. steve: they took the story down. impeachment inquiry hearings centering around the person who started it all. the whistleblower. whoever they are. >> there was a group of other people you communicated with, but you would only give us one individual in that group. secretary kent, and you are not willing to tell us who that other individual is. >> mr. chairman, points of order. >> the witness has testified in his deposition he doesn't know who the whistleblower is. how does this outing the whistleblower to find out who this individual. >> i do not know who the whistleblower is. >> how is it possible for you to name these people and then out the whistleblower? steve: good point. ainsley: our next guest pointing out if the democrats don't know who the whistleblower is, how do they know to keep this person's name private? brian: one person who has been all over this story
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from story day one congressman lee zeld infrom mzeldin frommy neck of the woodg island. >> well, first off, the whistleblower is someone who claims to have have all these different sources with first hand knowledge. we would like to speak to all of those people. as far as the whistleblower himself, i think that what we saw play out yesterday, for example, is showing just how dishonest adam schiff has been throughout this process. i know that there would be additional questions for the whistleblower if he could woman in for a private deposition. that's a fine start to this process. we will see if the senate republicans call him as a witness if it gets to that point. hopefully it doesn't. but, you know, as you are just playing in those segments, the whistleblower -- colonel vindman was asked a very simple question to name the one person that he spoke to in the intelligence community.
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he said he spoke to two people outside the nsc. one problem george kent. no problem naming names. but by naming the other person, adam schiff is saying that that would out the whistleblower yet, adam schiff claims he doesn't know who the whistleblower is. brian: someone is not telling the truth. steve: it made it look just the confluence of events right then that he stopped him right there. we are going to protect the whistleblower. so it made it look like the next name was going to be the whistleblower. congressman, you know, it does appear then, if that were true, and, you know, we are connecting some dots here, then lieutenant colonel vineldman was instrumental in starting the whole impeachment thing. >> yeah. key point. and i agree with that and i wish that we could be able to connect more dots by asking additional questions. and one additional data point for you and your viewers to be able to consider. inside the close you had door deposition, there was a rule just for colonel vindman's deposition. adam schiff set, that in no way, shape, or form can you ask any question that has
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anything to do with the intelligence community that day. and adam schiff was coaching colonel vindman during that testimony more than he was coaching any other witnesses. brian: he corrected him. >> yeah. true. and volker, who is colonel vindman's attorney. the way that way that schiff and vokof tag teamed this it was clear they weren't just trying to protect the whistleblower. it seemed they were trying to do one to two other things. one, that they were trying to protect adam schiff and his team and, two, it seemed like maybe they were even trying to protect lieutenant colonel vindman as if he had a conversation he wasn't supposed. to say understand he didn't tell tim morrison but he has this conversation with this person in the intelligence community connecting some dots. what happened, july 25th call takes place. lieutenant colonel vindman speaks to his identical between brother eugene. they hatch this scheme. they go to an attorney at the nsc.
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lieutenant colonel vindman speaks to this person in the intel community, who appears to be the whistleblower. that individual goes to adam schiff and his team before the whistleblower becomes a whistleblower. before he files a whistleblower complaint, before he hires a whistleblower attorney. and it seems like it's possible that this person -- there is a staffer sean who works for adam schiff who used to work at the nsc. there is another person named abigail grace. and it seems like this relationship between misko end up scheming this whistleblower. he was much more connected with the origins of this complaint than previously reported. brian: lee zeldin, thanks so much. we will see what happens today. two big hearings today after 11 and a half hours yesterday. steve: more dots to connect. another conservative speaker shut down on college campus. art laffer's speech canceled after a protest. why does this keep
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happening the same day gronk put speculation that he might be returning to the patriot us. brian: i thought he was. >> i think it's great. how fun is that? >> he does not care about anything. is he the heck with this. i'm having a good time. ainsley: gosh, he was on our show. i took off that day for some reason. i can't remember. i was watching our show and he is sitting here. why did i take off today? i love him. steve: talking about how he has endorsed a brand of cbd cream that is very effective. ainsley: we would always have fun in the parade when patriots would win the super bowl. brian: without them with all due respect they are awesome. no fun at bington. what's fun with hearing the man behind supply side economics. the man who just got a presidential medal of honor. he was asked to speak on campus. why not use that opportunity to ask him questions about reagan, trump, the differences and how they are alike. instead, we got. this. >> you are talking about art
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lafer, the former reagan administration official. he was shut down after he was trying to speak. listen. ♪ we are tired of getting murdered by this administration. authority brian: murdered by this administration? how embarrassing if you are sending your kid to that school that someone would go up and interrupted that speech, whether you agree with it or not? steve: well, then two were arrested. one person with a bull horn and one who attempted to interfere with the police. the university put out a statement on their facebook. the university is incredibly disappointed with the events that happened. particularly given that demonstrators were provided an adjacent lecture hall to engage in a counter discussion. protesters chose, instead, to infringe on the expressive activity of others as an institution of higher education, freedom of
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speech is fundamental to our core mission. ainsley: look like a young americas foundation might get a legal team involved in this. they were actually sponsors the event. they said this in their statement. the university failed to protect conservative students' right to free speech. young america foundation is actively exploring all legal remedies to do what bing hamton university failed to do. that's protect the first amendment. brian school. they could have that place wired and taken care of and they chose not to. that's an embarrassment. dr. arthur laffer. former reagan advisor and founder will be here to live to talk about. must have been a tough experience. no matter how much experience you have in front of people it's jarring to be interrupted like that. steve: it's not unique. you will hear it right here on fox in 45 minutes. minutes.brian what's going on. >> it wasn't like this when
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i was in school. steve: me either. ainsley: me either. jillian: a man who fell to his death on a carnival cruiseship has been identified. brian wright from louisiana leaves behind wife and three ttwin3-year-old boys. the crews line says it is cooperating with the investigation. >> a pair of atheist families suing a school district claiming it christianity. filed a suit against the summit county is you school system saying it allows unconstitutional practice like prayer at athletic games and bible distribution during class. the district says the suit hasn't been served to the school board but that it plans to defend its administrators. do you remember the florida county commissioner who made national headlines when he bashed the "new york times"? >> i agree with president trump. i will not be voting for
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this. i don't like. it's fake news and i'm voting no. >> citrus county voted against adding digital times for library patrons. just voted down a new proposal that would have replaced printed subscriptions with digital. the library will continue to get printed versions of the paper. feast your eyes on this hilarious video. turkey stalking a service truck in wisconsin. the bird has followed him from house to house every day from month to month. he doesn't think the turkey is involved with any fowl play. he says if the act keeps gobble bling on he will start caring a blow horn to keep the birds at bay. where do you think he wants to go? >> we are far away from any tables in the area. brian: go out to janice dean on fox square where she is passively listening to my toss. janice: i enjoy when they
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pardon the tuckerys. what else your name. >> i'm becky. >> chuck. janice: usc here before. >> we have about a year ago. janice: this your anniversary or birthday. >> it's my birthday. today. don't ask me how old i am. janice: i promise i won't. do you want to say hi to anybody at home. >> i want to say hi to my grand daughter daphne. the last time we were here she watched us on tv and she stood up to the next tv and said bb wave at me. there you go she did it again. janice: she is waving. take a look at the maps real quick. i will show you what's happening on this birthday. 41 in new york city. coastal low moving north and eastward so we won't have to deal with this one anymore. we have a new system across the southwest, that's going to bring some much needed rain to southern california. however, flash flooding is going to be an issue across portions of the southwest, including arizona and new mexico and some pretty big mountain snow that's going to head our way as well across the central u.s. and the mississippi river valley. just looking at those flood warnings across the southwest. all right. wave to steve, anxiously and brian. and you get a birthday hug.
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ainsley: happy birthday. steve: happy birthday bb. brian: arms are going to have to get longer because our crowd grows throughout the show. brian: i was in church last night. and i was actually by the pulpit and i had a chance to see a whole bunch of great people. steve: what church? brian: in madison, connecticut. ainsley: very vegas answer. brian: i went to two stations lincoln as well as omaha, nebraska. this is the lincoln shot. the radio show. so i had a chance to see all them. and then we had a chance to see hannity's jersey that was framed on the inside. steve: that's cool. brian: had a chance. cities i have never personally been to. we have such loyal fans and they know everything about
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us. that was over in san antonio. this is where i have been the last five days. tonight i will be in signing alamo. tomorrow i will be villages. i will be on time. one time i was late and they never forgot about it. stop in orlando on saturday and we just changed venues on that. it's at the writer's block bookstore. and then i will be in sunday morning i will be in southern as well as, just got to sign up so we have an idea of how many people come between 9:30 and 11:00. steve: a lot of information if people would like more information about where you are over the next couple of weeks or. so. brian: if they see me around. steve: no, no. what's your website. >> brian kilmeade.com click on and watch the event. ainsley: what do people say when they meet you? brian: i'm not dressed or i am dressed. ainsley: you always say get dressed. >> the whole sip were cup
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thing is a big deal. and they want to know why greg gutfeld hates me. i got the human bust of me which looks like generic man. last night we have sketches of all of us coming but he want you had to send them to. this guy it's realistic. there is a lot of tributes to me. ainsley: we never found out the patriot awards you might remember, someone gave brian a huge bust, a bronze bust of his face. did you take it on the airplane? did you buy a separate. brian: it's in my radio studio. if texas ever has to fight for freedom i have a medal i can officially wear to fight. steve: congratulations. brian kilmeade.com. more information. let's switch gears. fox news alert. hong kong continueschaos in hon. we are live at that university in hong kong where 50 protesters are still hold up in a standoff with police. you are going to want to see
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ainsley: good morning to you. welcome back. quick headlines now. a florida man is believed to be the latest victim of the mysterious vaping illness. 28-year-old kyle boyd was hospitalized just days before doctors declared him brain dead. at least 42 people have died from vaping this year. new york is the latest state to sue eget maker juul for allegedly using deceptive marketing to target teens. billie ray cyrus meets with the first lady about cyber bullying. what an honor to sit with the first lady at the white house. your sincerity was truly inspiring. sirus was there on behalf of chang smith the 16-year-old committed suicide after a classmate posted his private messages online. send it back to you. steve: china has condemned the human rights bill
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unanimously passed by the american senate. ainsley: comes amid the crackdown on pro-democracy protesters in that region. brian: jonathan hunt is all over this story live from the university in hong kong where 50 protesters are standing off with police. jonathan? >> brian, steve, anxiously good morning to you. good evening to you from hong kong. polytechnique university. the riot police will have to come and decide within the next two hours to launch a final operation to flush out remaining few dozen protesters, hard core ones who are hold up here we are getting indications steve, ainsley and brian. that might happen tonight. the police announced they are closing 11 of the mass transit railway stations. that in the past in hong kong has been a prelude to police action. it prevent the protesters and sympathizers coming to a
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certain location. it is an indication and the students here have been fearing this all day that the police may be planning to storm this campus to come up these steps tonight and flush out the radicals. now, if they do that they are likely to face a fight. we have seen hard core here, i would say probably less than a dozen. they are clothed in body armor. carrying in some case as bow and arrow, baseball bats, javelins, so there may well be a confrontation if the police decide to come in. on another situation, the demonstrators as a whole here are very happy to seat action by the u.s. senate unanimously approving the human rights and democracy act. that gives them some support, they feel, from the u.s. but the bigger question right now is are they going to face police action tonight? steve, ainsley, brian? brian: jonathan, i'm just wondering who are these people to walk by you?
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you are allowed to have access there. they have no problem civilians just walking by? whole area is ringed by riot police. they are allowing some members of the press to come. they also allow what have you been seeing some of the paramedics coming in to take out any exhausted and dehydrated students who are choosing to leave. we have also been seeing some. parents of those students coming on to campus pleading with their children to stop, to give this up and get out of the campus before the police come in. steve: get in trouble for trashing the joint. jonathan, thank you very much. brian: don't blame us. and they are. up next, start your engines. the los angeles auto show kicks off this week. we are live there today with a sneak peek first ever all-electric mustang suv. ♪ baby can you drive my car ♪ if i'm going to be a star
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the united states postal service goes the extra mile to bring your holidays home. brian: here we go. right to a fox news alert. three new witnesses will take the hot seat in impeachment hearings today. steve: all eyes will be on the u.s. ambassador to the european union. gordon sondland, what will he say? ainsley: griff jenkins joins us live from the house ways and means committee room where be there 9:00? >> that's right. 9:00 a.m. he is the man of the hour. he is the wild card. sondland smok spoke to president trump on multiple occasions. no one knows whether it will benefit republicans or democrats. afternoon two more witnesses, pentagon official laura cooper and along with
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david hail. 11 and a half hours of change yesterday fireworks in marathon testimony that came from the decorated army officer alex vindman along with the pence aid jennifer williams and then in the afternoon had you special envoy kurt volker and nsc staffer morrison. three of the four witnesses on that july 25th call. but republicans really took a chance to dig in on whether the president actually committed a crime. take a listen to the sound yesterday. >> used the word bribery or bribe to explain hunter biden's contact. >> no >> no, sir. >> he has not going to allow aid to the united states to go to the ukraine unless there were investigations into burst marks the bidens or the 2016 elections? >> no, he did not. >> but at the end of the day
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this entire things blasted republicans for only defending president trump. listen. >> his objection is he got caught. their objection that someone blew the whistle. their defense is well, he ended up releasing the aid. yes, after he got caught. >> we shall see and what happens when sondland sits down here. going to be definitely the most anticipated moments of this week and, of course, it's not over today. it continues tomorrow with more witnesses, guys. steve: that's right. griff, thank you very much. yesterday for the first time actually heard from people in on the phone call with the vice president and the president. they made it very clear. these are the first ear witnesses, he made it very clear no quid pro quo, no bribe. bribery, no extortion, no cover-up. i was reading in the "new york post" today rather "the washington post" marc
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thiessen's column democrats' bombshell not exploding. brian: are there some things about the call disturbing and unorthodox? sure. is this like a committee hearing where you say to yourself i don't like the way the foreign policy of this administration is working and as a voter you say i don't think i will votes for him or i don't have a problem with that. or is it a situation where the president has one point of view and frustrated with the people in place and decide more people he does feel like previous administrations like the eu ambassador and maybe perhaps rudy giuliani? we saw two very sincere people yesterday. devin nunes effectively said you have to understand you are sitting there looking at only the ukraine in 2019. what the president has got to worry about 2020 and specifically what happened in 2016. and devin nunes says you have to understand he has curiosity. because no one is pursuing it. from the steel dossier.
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he wants to get answers. that's where i thought he effectively opened up what the president's mindset was. ainsley: elise stefanik said her constituents in her district in new york they want to know more about burisma and hunter biden. you had jim jordan who looked at schiff and said you know who this whistleblower is. i don't believe you. i think you are a liar. newt gingrich doubled down on that last night and said he thought schiff was a liar, too. the president was watching all of this. democrats want to impeach him. the president praising the republicans. listen. >> i just got to watch the republicans are absolutely killing it. they are doing so well. because it's a scam. it's a big scam doing something the founders never thought possible and didn't want. they are using this impeachment hoax for their own political gain to try and damage the republican party and damage the president. it's had the opposite effects.
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you have seen the polls and i'm the highest i have ever been in the polls. you don't hear that on television. the news and the democrats are one of the same. steve: republicans are killing it. the president tweeted it was a great day for the republicans. meanwhile, have you got lieutenant colonel vindman he was the star witness for the democrats yesterday. he talked a little bit how he had prepared notes for the president, the white house and the americans before the phone call. apparently he heard in on the conversation things that he wasn't he was not expecting. he said this was not in the preparation material that i prepared. so he complained. he did not complain to his supervisor. he complained to, among others his brother and someone in the intelligence community. when mr. nunes they asked did you ever leak because we heard from your boss,
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mr. morrison that you were unhe radio liable and had. leaker do that as we watch the woman in the background with a big cup of coffee. he said i never leaked. but then they got to the one name of the intel community person and it looked like he was if he said the name it could have been the whistleblower. watch. this you discussed the july 20th phone call of anyone outside the white house on july 25th or the 26th? if so with whom. >> yes, did i. >> what agency was this individual from? >> if i could interject here. we don't want to use the. >> it's our time. >> i know. >> we need to protect the whistleblower. please stop: >> you testified in the deposition that you did not know who the whistleblower was or is. >> i do not know who the whistleblower is. >> how is it possible for you to name these people and
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out the whistleblower? ainsley: his point is why are you saying i talked to george kent and i talked to someone else in the intel community but he didn't list that name of the he didn't give that name. it makes people believe that was the whistleblower. steve: because he has said. he testified i don't know the identity. then again you have adam schiff who says i don't know the identity why did adam schiff stop him from giving. ainsley: at that moment. brian: don't look behind my back. steve: someone is drinking coffee. brian: what devin nunes is saying we need to know the whistleblower because the attorney the whistleblower chose tweeted out in 2017 about the resistance impeachment begun. out of all the attorneys he picks he picks mark zaid who puts that out on a public forum now he is mad that supporters keep bringing it up.
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represented the whistleblower dare find out who it is, why wouldn't they be concerned about who the whistleblower is since this whole thing was launched a couple of days, the last few days in august and the next thing you know we have an impeachment inquiry out of thin air. steve: it does look to republicans we talked to lee zeldin about a half an hour ago. it does look as if it was lieutenant colonel vineldman who talked to that person who ended up being the whistleblower. vindman was instrumental in getting us where we are today. brian: never met the president. steve: never talked to him. brian: amend his. i put together the talking points and i really believe the secretary of state has superior rank on him. ainsley: look at the front cover of "the new york post." in court. he was left alone for 8 hours. turns out the guards were shopping online and taking naps. steve: one of them said 6:30
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in the morning when they discovered that he was dead. they told a supervisor we did not complete the 3:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. rounds. i messed up. she messed up. we did not do any rounds. steve: also yesterday up on capitol hill. catherine hawkeye sawyer who is the director of prisons. she was in front of lineldz is i graham's committee. he wanted know what was going on. we heard a term we have not heard so far yesterday that term is criminal enterprise. watch. >> the case this high profile, there has got to be either major malfunction of the system or criminal enterprise at foot to allow this to happen. so are you looking at both? is the fbi looking at both. >> the fbi is involved and they are looking at criminal projects. >> we want bid of those bad staff who don't do their job. we want them gone one way or
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another either by prosecution or by termination. steve: which was it? a major malfunction or a criminal enterprise we talked to brett tollman in salt lake city this morning. he had this to say about all of that. >> the charges are a place holder while they look at is there a conspiracy? are there more people involved in this? are there inconsistencies with suicide. when you take that in contrast how he was treated by the feds when he was investigating in florida. you have to be concerned there is more than just these guards ignoring the highest profile prisoner they have had. it's scary. when someone has connections to powerful people ends up dying when he is supposed to be on suicide watch more than coinchts.
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coincidental. >> the guards are paid off by some higher power. why would they take the hit and go to jail when they could actually get tell the story and get protection. ainsley: wonder if they were too scared to tell the story. brian: do it behind closed door. steve: they have to figure it out. brett tollman said they charged them early in hopes of getting as much information from the guards as possible there are a lot of victims out there that want to know what happened. ainsley: female 31 years old and the guy 41 years old. brian: evidently very sleepy at night. ainsley: as most people are. brian: yeah, forgot about that. hi, jillian. jillian: good morning. start off with a fox news alert now. we have been following this story. a helicopter crash kills two american service members in afghanistan overnight. the cause of the incident is under investigation. but the military does not believe the chopper was shot down. 19 service members have died in afghanistan this year.
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the crash comes one day after the taliban swapped an american and australian hostage for three terrorist commanders held by the afghan government. more than 100 people are killed during antigovernment protests in iran a dramatic rise in fuel prices sparked chaos in nearly two dozen cities. some of the protesters were killed by snipers. you can see the path of destruction that was left behind. mayor pete buttigieg could be a big target in tonight wants democratic presidential debate. he is suddenly a frontrunner in two key states. first he appeared at the top of a recent iowa poll. now a poll conducted by college in new hampshire shows him with a 10 point lead. closest rivals, joe biden and elizabeth warren both have 15% support look at those numbers, bernie sanders fell behind with 9%. i don't know if you saw this. a reporter desperately really really needed coffee during impeachment hearings.
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watch this. >> connection to the president wasn't clear at that point. >> the import of what ambassador sondland said during that meeting was that there was agreement mic mulvaney. >> the connection. jillian: i like that look she gives right after and between sips. >> viral reporter tells it's hilarious it, looks ridiculous. the thing that i actually am finding gratifying about the whole thing i do think my colleagues are laughing with me and not at me. so true. steve: we all want the last drop. ainsley: that is the very last drop. she knocks it totally back. steve: you did not include the name emma dummond. ainsley: at least she is having fun with it and not embarrassed. brian: so much better than paying attention. ainsley: we will see that on "saturday night live." steve: you watched. how much has impeachment cost the democrats? perhaps as much as $61 million according to new republican party fundraising numbers.
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bidens, mr. morrison. >> not to my knowledge, ma'am. >> ambassador volker. >> not to my knowledge, either. >> did either of you ever have any evidence of quid pro quo mr. morrison. >> no. mr. volker. >> no, ma'am. >> any evidence of any bribery. >> no, ma'am. >> no, ma'am. brian: one democrats' own witnesses blowing holes for push for impeachment week two of hearings kicks off on the hill. our next guest hailing the democrats' take down narrative. ronna mcdaniel joins us now. no knockout blow. are you worried about today? >> i am not worried about today. i mean, the witnesses that we have seen so far have proven time and time again that there was no quid pro quo. there was no bribery as nancy pelosi has now focus grouped the new word. no extortion. this is a failed attempt by the democrats to try and overthrow the votes of 63 million americans. it's losing popularity
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viewership is plummeting. american people going to say very soon let's get back to the business of washington. we want to see uusmca passed. -- brian: you talk about how much this is costing the dems and giving the republicans. you come up with a figure the rnc fund raising haul since october is? >> well, we raised 25 million in october. just october. to give you a perspective brian, that's three times more than we did in 2017 in a preelection year we are blowing the roof off fund raising. was i in florida fund raising. the democrats are mobilized our donors at every level. help us fuel the president's re-election in 2020. brian: guess what tonight is. >> i don't know. nobody is paying attention. who even knows? the democrat debate. nobody is paying attention.
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the field is so weak the impeachment is pulling the wind out of these candidates trying to win the nomination. nobody cares. all we are talking about is the fake, phoney impeachment of this president that's going to fail. brian: if you have a senate trial, a lot of these candidates are senators. look at this poll coming out of new hampshire. buttigieg moves in front in iowa and 10 point lead over widen and warren with sanders in fourth place from vermont. what does that mean to an analyst like you. a strategist like you? >> it means the democrats have not found their nominee yet. brian: they might have found him. >> you will see this shifting. different people win in south carolina. might mean a brokered convention that this could last through 2020. there has not been a settled nominee. that's why you see deval patrick getting in and bloomberg getting.
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in no one is rallying around one candidate. what it also means is biden is failing. that's where the bribery is by the way. biden and his son. you know, nancy pelosi should focus group biden and his son being on the board of burisma. if she wants to know what bribery is, she should focus group that. brian: see what he does tonight. this used to be a big day for us predebate and post game. now nobody is talking about it. ronna mcdaniel, thanks so much. >> thank you. brian: liberals on campus back at it. this time shutting down reagan economic economists art laffer. will the intolerance ever end? ♪ chanting]
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brian: time now for news by the numbers. let's get started $16.8 million. that's how much money the clinton foundation reported in losses. do you believe that? that happened last year alone. texas records show the foundation raked in just 30 million bucks. next $100,000. that's the value of meth caught on the street smuggled over the border with a remote control car. agents arrested a 16-year-old american citizen. and finally number one, the neuropathy ultra one gun just named the worst toy this holiday season. causing harm. they can cause eye injuries. you should blink, children. and by the way spike the find motor hedgehog and yesterdayy teddy beayediteddy b. >> take a look at this, dozens of students at
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binghamton university in new york state shut down a lecture by presidential medal of freedom winner dr. art laffer on monday. watch. >> tired of getting murdered by the administration. because of this, mention the stories of all the lives lost. that you, this man, this liar, art laffer supports. [chanting] [chanting free speech] >> two protesters arrested as dr. laffer and conservative students were ushered out of the room. >> well, he is the former economic advisor to president ronald reagan and founder of laffer associates. he joins us right now from nashville with the post game show. art, good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. how are you this morning. steve: we are doing okay. what was your controversial speech you were going to make that the kids there had to shut you down over? >> i don't think i had anything controversial to say whatsoever. it's just economics. i mean, this administration
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has done a phenomenal job on creating prosperity and it's because of good economics. just the way reagan did. and that was my talk of what they did was they just don't like the organization, the young republicans. they don't like the sponsor, which was young america's foundation, which was founded by two great friends and mentors of mine bill buckley and ronald reagan. they didn't like that and they were very disrupted. i never felt personally ill ought ease at all by the way so you know. they were out there in the crowd jumping on the tables. one of them put on a mask and sort of like the antifa group. and then the polic pulled them t and made sure i got out of there i would have stayed longer but they wanted me to get out right away. ainsley: dr. walker, walk us through wanted what. >> it's too bad. ainsley: did you get to speak at all? >> no, i did not. i got up there at the podium to speak. this young man jumped up with a bull horn and started reading. he didn't even know my last name. so he was just jumping up with a bull horn. you know, he was yelling
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things that to me don't make any sense. he was yelling about racist, fascist. all this sort of stuff. not me but the republicans and all that these are things that you really can't change your age. you can't change your race. you can't change your gender and yelling is really offensive to be honest with you. and that's what they were using as their tools and they just wanted to shut the lecture down. i have been doing at this at college campuses for years now. i have never had anything like this. i mean, i went back to my yale university. did i two of them last year. and great reception. great things there. yale is at liberal as any place. these students clearly just don't want free speech. and young america foundation is sponsoring and working on it and making it happen. young republicans show a lot of courage standing up there i don't know if you saw in the video. they stood in front of these people and stopping.
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steve: the university put out a statement, the university is incredibly disappointed with the events that happened, particularly given that demonstrators were provided an adjacent lecture hall to engage in a counter discussion. they chose continue to fringe on the activity of others. as an institution higher education, freedom of speech is fund mental to our core mission. art, when the people are coming into a lecture hall, if somebody has got a bull horn, i'm thinking maybe you probably ought to stop that person. >> >> i think so too. i don't know if you saw the videos on youtube as well as what happened three days earlier. this was on monday night. which happened i think over the weekend or friday when they were trying to get people to be aware of the lecture all this group came in and broke the tables and turned them down. their language was absolutely foul beyond belief. what they were saying these young students, men and women, i mean, just -- the
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language was horrible. you should not be allowed to have that happen. and destroy property. ainsley: why don't the security guards remove them so you can do your job, can you speak and the kids who want to hear what you have to say can hear? >> i agree. i mean, i think i should be allow you had, to i have been everywhere else. i have never had anything like this happen to me before. i have seen riots in yale in march of 1959. there were lots of riots. i have seen them at the university of chicago where i taught for many, many years. when the sds occupied the administration building. i got my ph.d. out in california at stanford when there were the riots at sprowl hall at the university of berkeley. so i have seen riots. this was one just trying to stop opposition speech. stuff they don't like. they just didn't understand it at all. they have no concept of economics. they just want you to not talk because you are old. you are white, and you are a male. i mean, that's just apparent. they decide you are not worth it.
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steve: they were chanting free speech which you did not wind up with that art laffer thank you for joining us from nashville. >> thank you very much. it's enjoyable watching the show here right now in my studio. what can i say? steve: stay all day. we are on all day. ainsley: young america's foundation. >> i will. don't worry. ainsley: okay. have a good one. steve: straight ahead, congressman devin nunes blasting the media during impeachment hearings. does he have a point? lara logan joins us live coming up next. >> the media, of course, are free to act as democrat puppets and they're free to lurch from the russia hoax to the ukraine hoax at the direction of their puppet masters.
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senate. steve: jonathan, when you showed us the scene there. we saw the makings of molotov cocktails and things like that. today still a mess. what's going on? >> yeah, we may be a approaches steve, what would be the end game here at hong kong polytechnique university and just about 30 minutes the police have said they are going to shut down parts of the mass transit rail system here. that has been a prelude in the past to them taking action. and we believe that they may be considering storming this campus in the next couple of hours to flush out the remaining students. there are several dozen of them here. there are hundreds, if not thousands, of right police, most of them out of the sight of our cameras right now ringing this campus. they are ready to take action. if they do come on here, it appears that the majority of the few dozen that have left will probably allow themselves to be arrested
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and taken away. there is a hard core here. i would say it's less than a dozen steve, ainsley and brian. they are armed. we have seen them with bows and arrows. we have seen them carrying baseball bats. we have seen them carrying javelins. so they may decide to put up a fight. clearly, it won't be anything like it was last time when the police tried to come in here weekend they were met with these barriers which you can see now are all burned up from some of those hundreds, if not thousands of molotov cocktails that were thrown at them. this time instead of facing hundreds if not a thousand students, it's likely to be just a small group it. should be over quickly if the police move in as we believe they might in the next couple of hours. steve, ainsley, brian. brian: thanks, jonathan. it's amazing, too. i think you can't blame congress for supporting the hong kong protesters. if we don't say anything, the chinese government is going to get the word that they can steam roll these people like tiananmen square
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again. we have an obligation to speak out and offer support. hey, china, we are watching this is the same group over a million muslims. that leaked over the weekend and no one said a word. ainsley: all these young individuals held up inside the school and pro-democracy. the parents are worried about them. they don't know what will happen to them if they are arrested. steve: that's right. let's bring in lara logan hosting a new daca could you series on fox nation no agenda with lara logan. you know her as a former cbs correspondent. good morning to you, lara. >> good morning. >> first of all, let's talk a little bit about what's going on on capitol hill. what do you make of you who the democrats are prosecuting the case against the president of the united states? >> well, you know, i always look at these things as a journalist and i try to figure out separate fact from fiction and opinion and try to figure it out. and it's -- what's
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interesting is watching tactics and strategy emerge through these proceedings. because some of the tactics, the strategy that's being used in the case of ukraine, mirrors very closely the tactics and the strategy that was used with russia. there are obvious differences. but one of them that i find, you know, sort of the most unsettling is this idea that you can't criticize or question, you know, particular individuals who testify because doing so automatically, you know, exposes you to be smeared. that comes to one of the basic fundamental of many journalists ask as many questions as possible. be as critical as everything and everyone. and i always -- i think that's a red flag for me. ainsley: elise stefanik doing her job. democrats are matted mad at
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her slamming her. congressman devin nunes is furious with the way the media has covered. this watch this. and then we will get your reaction. >> the media, of course, are free to act as democrat puppets. and they are free to lurch from the russia hoax to ukraine hoax at the direction of their puppet massers. americans have learned to recognize fake news when they see it. and if the mainstream press won't give it to them straight, they will go elsewhere to find it. ainsley: what's your reaction? >> that's something i hear from people all the time, right? democrats, republicans. i mean, it doesn't matter whether you are in a town or city in this country. people like to say all the time that this country is so divided. but when you talk to people on both sides of the aisle, very often there is not much separating them at all. and this mistrust in the media and, you know, this desire to have honest, independent factual reporting is expressed to me by people time and time again. so, there is, you know, in all the polls support that
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although i'm not a fan of polls because i always want to know who paid for the poll? right. my first question as a journalist who spaying for this informatio -- who ispaying. we take polls as if they are absolute and nobody cress them. that's frustrating, too. you know, every journalist in this country who rarely cares about the integrity of journalism has to hear what someone like congressman devin nunes is saying and consider it seriously, right? because what you see happening over time with the media is it is self-censorship. that's the result of what happens when you get smeared and intimidated and silenced and targeted and punished, right? and how does that happen? if you go outside the narrative, you know, everybody is reporting this, therefore, it must be true. everybody else is reporting it, except you. well, you must be right wing. you must be alt right. you must be neo nazi, you must be partisan.
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what has happened to that middle ground where can you question everything and everyone and where you just want to find out the truth. the middle ground has been taken from us. most americans are moderate, right? look at the elections. they are not won on the extreme left or the extreme right. they are won in the middle ground. they are won in those moderate states. and so you can't just dismiss the middle ground. it's been consumed by the left. it doesn't exist anymore. if you are outside of that narrative, you are automatically on the extreme right. and that's a false narrative, right? it's just not true. brian: they got a lot of power because they are going to decide hot next president is and who has the power in washington because everybody else has already decided. meanwhile, we decided -- >> -- the people decide, right? who the president is. steve: we report. they decide. brian: fox nation no agenda with lara logan. what should we expect? >> you should expect what i
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have always worked very hard to deliver, right? you should and expect an honest look at issues that, and subjects that people care about. and do you know what's frustrating for me already? i can see the ground being laid and prepared and just in the reporting on this show. reporters say she go is doing a show with no agenda on lara logan on the agenda driven forum of position nation and fox news. what is that automatically doing? trying to smear the show buff it even gets off the ground. you know. brian: unbelievable. >> those are the tactics you see emerging and the patents pa patterns and strategy that people are beginning to recognize. brian: that's one thing. i wouldn't say that fox nation is an agenda driven app. i have never heard that but, we are glad you are there. i look forward to watching augusall your work like we alwas have. thanks so much. steve: coming soon to fox
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nation. meanwhile, a new study reveals some of the tax hikes pushed by many democrat hopefuls could eliminate more than 400,000 jobs and that's not all. brian: i predict charles payne will come around the corner with a big smile on his face and a wonderful new suit. steve: hello, charles. ♪ one way or another ♪ ♪ hi honey, we got in early. yeah, and we brought steve and mark. ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list sales event. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment. (male announcer) kick off the holidays with huge savings from bass pro shops and cabela's.
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we are erupting in terms of the economy. it's not just the stock market. it's not just those jobs. it's wages, right? wages are erupting for the bottom half of workers. blue collar workers, their wages are actually growing faster than their supervisors for the first time in more than a decade. household formation is beginning in this country. right now home i'm is the highest level it's been since the first quarter of 2014. yesterday we learned that housing permits highest level since 2007. that's the foundation of our economy. really it's household formations when people get married and have children that is the formation of a great society, not only economically but any other measure, socioeconomic measure. ainsley: why the correlation if you have a business and you are taxed a lot of money then you have to lay people off? >> you certainly can't hire people, right? so there is an attrition issue. you know, people won't necessarily get fired immediately but, you know, the ebbs and flows of hiring and firing without the course of a year, a course of two years means that you
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will have fewer employees rather than more. steve: okay. so the statistics we are showing the estimate of losing 400,000 jobs is if we go from the 21% tax rate for corporations back to 35% where we were. it got cut during the trump tax cuts. but, the democrats have got to raise money to pay for these gigantic programs and that's a way to do it. >> that's the rub. and i think what americans are going to have to decide you have two options here. a society that you try to level the playing field by having a handful of very rich people and tax them heavily like in california where income inequality is worse in all of america. or society where everyone has an opportunity to go up the ladder, the economic ladder. that's what we are offering people in america. do you believe you have what it takes to improve your life? and by the way, the other things that come with it, who doesn't feel great when they get a bigger paycheck when they can put food on the table. there is certain things that come with selfish is i. not the government saying
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i'm going to take all of brian's money and give it to you to live a minimal lifestyle. brian: real quick i have seen people like jami jamie dimon. he wants to help those at the -- do you think nuanced. >> i think everybody does. capitalism in a war of itself. a lot of things have to do. jamie dimons of the world saying don't tax me i'm doing good for society and investing in areas where people need opportunity. steve: sure. >> i think that's going to be the key. i think corporate america is really going to have to figure this out because they are under assault and it won't be business as usual. steve: talk about income disparity making zero because the taxes went up. >> that's a huge income disparity. a lot of people are going for it. politics of envy. steve: thanks, charles. ainsley: south carolina's governor taking heat for the
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antidrug campaign. she is standing givment and she joins us to explain why next. >> i'm on meth. >> i'm on meth. >> i'm on it, too. >> so am i.
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♪ >> i'm on meth. >> i'm on meth. >> i'm on it, too. >> so am i. >> so am i. >> i'm on meth. > ainsley: south dakota's new antidrug campaign being mocked online. one person tweeting is south dakota trying to advertise meth? another writes the only way to explain south dakota's new anti-meth ads is that everyone involved in their creation is on meth. governor kristi noem is defending the campaign tweeting the whole points of this ad campaign is to raise
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awareness. so i think that's working. governor nome joins us now. good morning, governor. >> good morning, ainsley. ainsley: tell us how this all got started. why did you decide to create these ads where it looks like average normal people even a woman in church on meth? >> >> well, when i first became governor i told people i would tackle the difficult challenges in our state, one of them is meth addiction. we have double the national average of middle schoolers in our state that are using meth. it is impacting every family. it's clogging our courts and jails. it's costing the state hundreds of millions of dollars. and this ad campaign is to get people talking. when we put this together, and worked with people in south dakota and throughout the state to really message this, we knew it would be provocative. we wanted people to start talking about meth in a way that they never have before and we need every single person in south dakota to get on this challenge. ainsley: you hate the stereotype. when i watched this, i
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thought the farmer is probably not on meth. the lady in church is probably not on meth. is the point of this to say even if you are not actually doing meth, it is still your problem. you are still on it because it effects our community? >> that's exactly it, ainsley. we need everybody to be on the problem, solve the problem with us. get to the table. i was in a restaurant a couple of weeks ago, ainsley, and a woman walked into this restaurant. she wa was high on meth had a couple of kiddos with her that obviously were not being well-taken care of. and everybody in that restaurant pretended they didn't see her. didn't do anything to come alongside her and talk to her. that really is what i'm trying to change in south dakota. i need every single person in the state engaged on making sure that we are coming alongside people who are struggling with addiction. getting them treatment and making sure that we're healing our families. and so that's why this ad campaign is provocative. it's to make people be aggressive on fighting this disease that we have got that's really damaging our stated. and i want every single
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person today talking about it. ainsley: i think it's great. i think it's very clever. when you first watch the ad you are right what are they encouraging? people snilg, they seem happy to be on meth. when i hear your interview and we talk to folks in your community. we realize it's a huge problem and something needs to be done about it. congratulations for at least making people talk and getting aware. why do you think you have such a big problem in your state with meth? >> you know, i think it's a challenge across the country. meth is so cheap. it's so readily available. a lot of the country talks about opioids a lot. with the southern border the way that it is being porous, we have a lot of meth moving into the country and through our state. it's been something our communities have been dealing with for a long period of time. let me be very clear, ainsley, this is not a joke. people that are joking about this. ainsley: right. >> obviously are not watching the ad campaign. they are not watching the commercials and they don't have anybody in their life that they are dealing with. this is really something that people need to take seriously.
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i would encourage them to go to the website. ainsley: all right. governor, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. ainsley: you are welcome. a live look at capitol hill. in just under an hour impeachment hearings will get underway. we are inside that room. ♪ chevy silverado hd. it offers head-up display. wow, that's dialed in. i can still keep my eyes on the road. . . that makes your trailer appear invisible - to help you see what's behind you. oh, wow! which in this case happens to be the competition - since they don't offer the same amount of cameras as the silverado. literally in the rear-view. where they should be. ♪
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steve: it is 8:00 in washington, d.c. this is a fox news alert. right now capitol police are responding to a suspicious package that has been found inside the capitol building itself. brian: here we go. impeachment hearings begin by the way in less than an hour. ainsley: griff is inside of the building. he is live to tell us what will happen today. reporter: hey, ainsley, brian and steve. we saw the notice for the suspicious package. it is in the south capital street entrance but capitol police are waving people in. everything is on schedule. when 9:00 ambassador sondland sits down there will be a lot of questions. he is the most anticipated witness because both democrats
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and republicans believe he has important information to shed on the story. he had close ties to president trump. there are two more additional witnesses this afternoon, pentagon official lar raw cooper, and date heal. fireworks were absolutely. alexander vindman, jennifer williams, kurt stroller and nsc staffer tim morrison. when vindman was asked who he told about the july 25th call, fireworks flew. >> the intelligence community has 17 different age is. what agency was this individual from? >> if i could interject here we dope want to use these proceedings -- >> it is our time, chair. >> we need to protect the whistleblower. please stop. i want to make sure that there is no effort to out the whistleblower. >> you testified in the deposition that you did not know
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who the whistleblower was. >> i do not know who the whistleblower is. that is -- reporter: republicans felt, guys, they had a very strong day across the 11 1/2 hours because they zoned on speaker pelosi's main allegation that a crime was committed. listen. >> you never used the word bribery or bribe to explain president trump's conduct, correct? >> no, sir. >> colonel vindman, you haven't either? >> that is correct. reporter: at the end of the day though, chairman schiff leading the entire hearing process that republicans should be ashamed of themselves for defending president trump who did commit a crime. >> their objection he got cute. their objection someone blew the whistle. their defense is well, end up releasing aid. yes, after he got caught.
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reporter: guys, let me tell you we're keeping an eye -- that does happen frequently on capitol hill. we'll cut in and bring you more if that develops. we're waiting for the gavel to fall. 45 minutes each side and five minutes for members. guys. brian: opening remarks will summarize the goals for the day, what happened the day before. to me they're often the most intriguing. steve: our special coverage starts 27 minutes from right now. adam schiff says the republicans should be ashamed of themselves. president of the united states tweeted yesterday, it was a great day for republicans as he said during the cabinet meeting in the white house, the republicans are killing it. >> i just got to watch and the republicans are absolutely killing it. they are doing so well because it's scam, it's a big scam. they're doing something that the founders never thought possible, the founders didn't want. they're using this impeachment
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hoax for their own political gain to try and damage the republican party and damage the president but it has had the opposite effect. you've seen the polls. we're now the highest, i'm highest i ever have been in the polls. you don't hear that on television because the news and the democrats are one in the same. ainsley: so the republicans are just crushing this impeachment narrative. yesterday he will lease stefanik asking tim morrison and ambassador volcker. did ukraine open an investigation into the bidens? not to my knowledge. was there evidence of quid pro quo? no, ma'am. was there evidence of bribery? no, ma'am. steve: mike turner from great state of ohio talking to mr. volcker. watch this. >> did the ukrainians ever tell you they understood they would not get a meeting with the president of the united states, phone call from the president united states of the, military aid or foreign aid from the united states unless they undertook investigations of burisma, the bidens or the 2016
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elections. >> no they did not. >> pretty much ambassador volcker, you pretty much took apart their entire case. if the president of the united states is not believed or intended ukrainians don't understand it, and you're the only one who stands in between them. brian: that's true. that meant a lot as kurt volcker said that. he also added in beginning some things he was left out of the loop. congressman mike turner, republican out of ohio. obviously a member on the committee. will be on the spot, will be on the docket again today. congressman, i thought that stood out. your comments on volcker's comments he did open up with the opening remarks, i should have realized buries meant biden and didn't link it all together. what is your assessment 24 hours later? >> what kurt volcker said was that as the president in his telephone call said, that he now understands that the president and others were asking for an
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investigation into bidens which he clarified which is most important there was no tying of aid to any of these requests. the whole aspect of this that is important is that unfortunately other news outlets continue to report kurt volcker said aid was tied. what you showed there, his testimony was very clear, he said the president of the united states never said or intended that aid be tied to the investigations and ukrainians never understood aid was tied. that is their whole case. the ambassador certainly made it clear that he had no information. he is the first who spoke to everyone. everyone else has been hearsay. he had no information of that. steve: let's look ahead what will happen today. the first witness will be gordon sondland of course the ambassador. what is the number one thing you want him to say today? >> well he testified previously that he had spoken to the president of the united states and the president had said no
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quid pro quo. we're expecting of course that his testimony will be consistent. if it is consistent today as kurt volcker's testimony yesterday was clear, we continue to have the adam schiff team coming up short on having any tying of the aid. there certainly were communications or, discussions, understanding among all of the hearsay group but under those who actually speak to the president of the united states and spoke to the ukrainians, unless they tie this to the president of the united states then they have fallen short. ainsley: congressman, we'll hear from laura cooper today and david hale. what do you expect them to say? >> think testimony will be important because they give color of all of this, issues surrounding this but i think it really goes to adam schiff claiming that sondland was critical in this. that will be the testimony that will be the most difficult. brian: sondland in particular already amended his statement. he said this, he testified that he never thought there was any
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precondition to the aid. he went back in, let me fix that i said the resumption of the u.s. aid would likely not occur until ukraine provided public anti-corruption statement we had been discussing for many weeks. how does that change how you approach this and do you think that the trump administration as they have been report something concerned that sondland is going to just turn on them? >> well, that sondland is not a diplomat. he doesn't have the careful communications someone just as ambassador volcker does. there could be issue of sloppiness here. we'll have to find out. he did not at this point indicate anyone told him to do that or anyone instructed him or that the president of the united states said that was the president's condition. that is really what we need to understand is, will ambassador sondland indicate that the his testimony remains the same. there is no quid pro quo. brian: one more thing. steve: one of the interesting
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things a lot of people noted yesterday, congressman, was that mr.-- rather lieutenant colonel vindman was name all the people he talked to except one person in the intel community and it appeared as if adam schiff saying we'll not let you give that name because we have to protect the whistleblower. so it looks like whatever name he was about to say was the whistleblower, which would mean that lieutenant colonel vindman was essentially instrumental on how this whole impeachment thing got us to where we're at. >> well, only adam schiff knows that and he totally misrepresents the whistleblower statute as protecting the whistleblower and providing anonymity. it does not. certainly the whistle-blower needs to be front and center where did he get the information, how was the information delivered? with lieutenant colonel vindman, you got a sense that the guy writes memos and the president
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not happy reading them. ainsley: you said ambassador volcker said there was no tie. there was no tie to the investigation. you will get the "money" anyway. you said media, other networks are reporting that he said something completely different, that the money was tied. how can they get away with that? >> i don't know. some. outlets including cnn, "daily mail," had headlines that ambassador volcker things he did not. i asked him the headline of "the daily mail." did you say that? no i did not. i think all the news outlets should be held accountable. he testified the opposite. the opposite. brian: vindman for a second you took him apart with all due respect to him and his rank. he basically said he was in charge of ukraine policy. really? have you ever met the president? have you ever met the secretary of state? they answer to you or do you answer to them? describe your mind-set and approach there? >> he submitted his testimony to us. in it he said he was the
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principle advisor to the president on ukraine policy. but he never spoken to the president. so clearly he is not the principal because the president is getting advised, he is getting information on ukraine but yet he saw himself as the president's main advisor. i think that's why lieutenant colonel vindman seemed to have gotten upset. he believed he was in charge of ukraine, he wasn't clearly in charge of president, seemed like that bothered him. steve: sure. congressman, if people were tuning in yesterday you saw the republicans were available to establish with varies witnesses. they all admitted there was no quid pro quo, no bribery, that is what the democrats are pushing right now, no extortion, no coverup, one of the other elements was the fact that i believe jennifer williams and lieutenant colonel vindman, they both agreed that by having hunter biden with that 50,000-dollar a month job with burisma, it was a problem for the vice president. it was a potential conflict of
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interest. they both agreed with that. >> absolutely. everyone who has been asked that question by at least stefanik answered in the affirmative. what i find interesting about this whole charade we're going through, adam schiff and his team should have keys they're turning, the element of the crime, elements of the impeachmentable offense they're trying to prove. they're not trying to prove any of those. they're asking people how did they feel, what did they understand, what they think someone else did? this should only be about what the president of the united states said and say, and what did the ukrainians understood. ainsley: do you hear anything in the testimony thus far there is an impeachable offense? >> no. it is going to be interesting to see where they're going to go because up until kurt volcker, their entire case has been hearsay, people who say they heard or believed their impression was. we had people saying impression. ambassador taylor here to tell
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you what i heard. ambassador volcker had direct knowledge. he denied every element of their claim. they will have to rebuild their case with someone. we've certainly not seen that yet. brian: real quick, gordon sondland will ask about a conversation someone overheard him talkinging to the president about. no one discussed this with him. what is your approach? is it possible to hear both sides after conversation not on speaker phone and say that, use that as testimony? >> well, david holmes testimony heard sopped land on the phone and heard both sides of the conversation is suspect. even if it is true, david holmes offers nothing in his testimony. he said nothing other than what the president of the united states himself said in the phone call the day before. he didn't say the president directs sondland to tie the aid to investigations. there is no new information there other than just the explosiveness of how the democrats are using it. steve: interesting stuff.
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it will all be live here in 47 minutes. congressman mike turner of the great state of ohio. sir, thank you very much. brian: he has done a great job. so is jillian. jillian: pressure is on. good morning to you guys. let's get caught up on the fox news alert. law enforcement under attack. narcotics investigator shot and killed in a gus at that, georgia, trying to keep his community safe. he was gunned down on patrol and investigator ridley is the 36th officer shot and killed in the line of duty. police shot and killed the suspect. also breaking overnight at least 14 income city police officers are hurt in a massive apartment building fire. the officers suffering from smoke inhalation as they tried to wake people up and get them to safety. the cause of that fire is unknown. a top military admiral expected to announce a review to determine whether navy seal
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eddie gallagher should keep his trident pin. the symbol is awarded to seals to reinforce good order and discipline. earlier this year gallagher was acquitted of killing an isis fighter in iraq. he was sentenced to reduced rank and four months of confinement for posing with the fighter's dead body. president trump sent and order on friday restoring his rank. a man is going viral for making fun of his wife's marathon trip to target. look at this, his sign reading quote, not homeless, wife and target two plus hours, please help. the atlanta man also captioned the photo, i will not be silent. his wife should not be silent either, saying quote, what do you expect from someone who had a surprise target baby shower. so funny. i don't know about you, ainsley. i am lost for after the leave an hour. i spend at least $100 every time and i don't understand. ainsley: you can get anything there. they have great shoes. look like designer shoes.
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jillian: get swifters there all the time. >> they have great clothes, cereal. steve: all i want a chair in the front so i can sit there while she goes shopping. brian: 1950s all over again. jillian: jewelry. ainsley: gift bags, tissue paper. brian: they have tissue paper. ainsley: they call it target like a fancy affordable store. steve: my wife told me yesterday, stop by target to pick up gingerbread. i'm just telling you. ainsley: they built one near my apartment. it is awesome. brian: i refuse to add to the conversation. ainsley: your books are sold there. brian: okay. steve: we're 45 minutes away from the next impeachment hearing where democrats are expected to push that quid pro quo thing once again. brian: congressman devin nunez, he doesn't want america to forget about the biden. >> why did burisma hire hunter biden what did he do for them
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and did his actions impact the obama administration. brian: our coverage continues. mollie hemingway. that is a wide shot of her. sending your own clubs ahead with shipsticks.com makes it fast & easy to get to your golf destination. with just a few clicks or a phone call, we'll pick up and deliver your clubs on-time, guaranteed, for as low as $39.99. shipsticks.com saves you time and money. make it simple. make it ship sticks.
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>> why did burisma hire hunter biden, what did he do for them and did his position impact any u.s. government actions under the obama administration?
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the american people were promised a grave and somber impeachment inquiry. instead they got the salacious five screen comedy they have been working on for three years. steve: there is a moment from yesterday's impeachment hearings where congressman from california devin nunez reminded america not to forget about the bidens role in burisma. brian: he kept going back to this there is another area to pursue and they're not doing that. mollie hemingway joins us now. mollie, they testified yesterday, did you know in 2018 ukraine did this? did you know biden did this? did you know six times the vice president called the previous president of ukraine poroshenko? there is something on that side nobody wants to pursue. why? >> adam schiff's idea that it was inappropriate for president trump to be concerned about
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ukrainian corruption either related to their meddling in the 2016 election or hunter biden's role with a corrupt ukrainian company while his dad was the vice president of in charge of ukrainian matters. both those things are curiously unexplored by the democrats on the committee or the media. there is a lot of evidence in support of them. we know ukrainian officials were virulently against candidate trump in 2016 there was leaking questionable documents that ended up roiling the trump campaign. close connection with the dnc contract it alexander chalupa that republicans asked she testify. adam schiff said no. hunter biden was served $80,000 a month to serve on the corrupt ukrainian company at the time his dad was vice president. if the argument is it is inappropriate to be concerned about corruption subsidizing this country seems we would want to look a little more into that. adam schiff has a different idea.
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better to talk to people with second, third, fourth-hand information about a phone call. get their feelings what was happening on the phone call. steve: why yesterday republicans made over the last month or so the case they should hear from the whistleblower since it started with the whistleblower and the bidens because it started there. mollie, forget about all that, isn't this all about 2020? why would they want to call the bidens if joe biden would be the standard-bearer for the democrats? that would be bad for them! >> this is one of the things i'm not sure democrat completely thought through the impeachment inquiry. think about how much time is being consumed by this impeachment, all these hearings at the expense of a democratic primary that is going on right now. brian: how about a debate tonight. >> we're just a few months out. there is a debate tonight. we're at the beginning. if democrats choose to impeach president trump, then it goes to the senate. you get to call all sorts of people close to the bidens and
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steve: fox news alert. you're looking outside of the longworth office building, just through those doors, inside it's a very ornate ways and means committee hearing room, starting at 9:00, the witness will be gordon sondland, ambassador to the european union. he will say as he had in the past, the president said no quid pro quo with ukraine. ainsley: this afternoon, laura cooper, assistant secretary of defense for russian, ukrainian, eurasian affairs. she will testify at 2:30. brian: we went for 11 1/2 hours. i can't believe how long this went. gordon sondland, ambassador to the eu, donor to the president, got a key position, seemed to interact regularly, the president said i barely know him. what will he say today, where will this go? he already amended one
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statement. we don't have him on the record yet about a phone call i said he was on in a public setting, president said i don't care about the small stuff. he cares about the big stuff. the big stuff would be the investigation. steve: there will be two sessions. one this morning starting in half an hour. at the second at 2:30 including as ainsley said, laura cooper. david hale, the undersecretary of state for political affairs. will ask why maria yovanovitch was dismissed. she asked him for help defending her from attack. ainsley: we interviewed congressman mike turner on the committee, who is sitting through the testimonies and he if he heard anything that would warrant impeachment. he said no. brian: president was not aggressively listening yesterday as he was late last week. i wonder what he is doing today. he is very happy from what he heard from other republicans doing very effective job giving
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another side to this case. steve: the president tweeted out yesterday, a great day for the republican party when they prove no quid pro quo and no bribery. special coverage right now starts. bill: 8:30 here in new york. day four of public impeachment hearings set to begin. we're set to hear what is considered one of the more highly anticipated witnesses thus far. ambassador to the european, gentleman by the name of gordon sondland, age 62. born in seattle washington. will testify about 30 minutes from now before the house intelligence committee. good morning, everybody. the interesting aspect of this, just a statement just went out. sandra, if you look through it, he goes through every fact discussed thus far. it will be fascinating moment here. this is actually a witness who had conversations with the president. we're getting closer to all of that. i'm bill hemmer. special coverage begins now.
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good morning at home. sandra: good morning bill. i'm sandra smith. three witnesses will testify today but gordon sondland will get the lion's share of attention. ambassador to the european union interactions with president trump on ukraine are expected to come under intense scrutiny. who exactly is gordon sondland? bill: businessman. very successful. owner after chain of hotels in portland, oregon. a major donor of the president's campaign in 2016. started serving as ambassador to the eu in july last year. sondland is being called one of the three amigos on ukraine policy along with kurt volcker and energy secretary rick perry. sandra: in earlier deposition he said there was no quid pro quo on ukraine aid but he later revised that testimony. what will he say. what will happen today? bret baier and chris wallace are
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in washington. martha maccallum and john roberts here in new york city and ken starr standing by in dallas. we begin with chief correspondent mike emanuel on capitol hill. mike, what were the lines of attack for republicans last night? reporter: good morning to you. key exchanges focus on democrats arguments in the impeachment probe with former national security council russia expert, tim morrison and former special envoy to ukraine kurt volcker. key republicans tested some of the terminology democrats used to explain why they're trying to impeach president trump. new york republican elise stefanik asked about some of the allegations by democrat. >> did either of you have any evidence of quid pro quo, mr. morris son? no, ma'am. >> ambassador volcker? no, ma'am. >> any evidence of bribery. >> no moment. >> any evidence of treason? >> no, ma'am.
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>> no evidence of treason. reporter: michael turner took aim at another argument by democrat. >> did the president of the united states ever say to you he would not allow aid from the united states go to ukraine unless there was investigation into burisma, bidens or 2016 elections. >> no he did not. >> ambassador volcker you took apart their entire case. aren't you official channel? >> that is correct. reporter: those are critical moments in terms of the republicans questions in the yesterday's session. sandra: what were more witness who were senior players say about president trump's impressions of ukraine. reporter: tim morrison was on the president's july 25th phone call. he said he did not have concerns about it but worried there would be political implications if the summary of the call got out. as for ukraine, here was volcker on the president's impressions on ukraine. >> this could be helpful in
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getting a reset of the thinking of the president, negative view of ukraine that he had. and if we did that, i thought that would also be helpful in, unblocking whatever hold there was on security assistance. if there is this negative presumption about ukraine, getting this stuff on track would be helpful. reporter: meanwhile at the end of a marathon day of testimony chairman adam schiff lashed out at republicans. >> their objection is he got caught. their objection is someone blew the whistle. and they would like this whistleblower identified. and the president wants this whistleblower punished. that is their objection. not that the president engaged in this conduct, but that he got caught. their defense is well, end up releasing the aid. yes, after he got caught! reporter: that sets the stage for another long and critical day of testimony with chairman schiff clearly concerned that these hearings may not be moving the needle in terms of public
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opinion. sandra. bill. sandra: mike emanuel kicking things off on capitol hill. thanks. bill: to viewers at home the comment from adam schiff was 8:20 eastern time last night. a very end of closing argument, closing statement at end of almost a 12 hour day. "special report" anchor bret baier out of washington, fox news anchor chris wallace, martha maccallum anchor of "the story." hello to you. if you talk to those inside, bret, some suggesting that if you go you go to the deposition that sondland cuts both ways. that leads to possibility that this witness could be a wild card. what are you hearing? >> a huge wild card. the white house is concerned behind closed doors what sondland will say, won't say. democrats believe this is a marquee witness. people were talked to about the
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call, what was happening from different sources. people who were on the call and listened. now someone who talked to the president outside of that july 25th call numerous times. this is directly into the oval office and directly to the president. expect democrat to go town -- down this road hard. especially the july 26th call overheard by two aides. expect republicans try to get distance between sondland and president trump. that he was somehow a rogue actor. i think you may see rudy giuliani thrown under the bus by sondland regretting some of his interaction with giuliani. sondland said in closed-door testimony it is a very bad experience for me. it will probably get a lot worse today. bill: back to you shortly. chris wallace, set it up from your perspective 24 minutes away and holding. >> you say it's a wild card. one of the reasons it is a wild
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card, when zoned land testified on october 17th, behind closed doors a month ago, he told a story, the story keeps changing. he has specifically had to revise his testimony. i recalled something that i hadn't recalled before, that on september 1st, when he was in warsaw that he took aside one of president zelensky's top aides, basically said to him you want to get the military aid released. by that point it was public knowledge that the military aid was held up by the u.s. if you want to get the aid released president will have to come out with a public statement, president zelensky, with public statement about these investigations. there is the july 26th phone call, the one at the kiev restaurant the day after july 25th zelensky-trump phone call when another state department official dispatched to the embassy in ukraine says he overheard sondland talking to president trump and basically
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saying zelensky will do anything you want, and yes he will do these investigations. according to this aide, david holes, zelensky, rather sondland told this aide, trump cares about one thing, the investigations and things is that will personally benefit him. july 10th, the meeting in the national security council with john bolton, according to several witnesses sondland said you will have to do the investigations. bolton was so disturbed by that, that he stopped meeting, sondland goes down to the war room, next to the situation room basement in the white house, starts talking about it some more. you herd alexander vindman went to sondland, that was totally inappropriate to be involved of investigations into domestic political matters. what is interesting, one, sondland never told the committee about the
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september 26th phone call and he had a completely different recollection of what happened on july 10. so as they used to say on i love lucy, sondland has some explaining to do today. bill: we'll see, lucy, how that turns out. okay. you are correct, chris, about the revision in his testimony as gordon sondland arrives, goes through the security check, the house side of the u.s. capitol. he testified initially on the 17th of october. came back on the 4th of november. revised that testimony. we'll see how he clarifies that in a moment here under oath. martha, to you, i was looking back at the transcript that was released of the first phone call between president trump and zelensky. this was april 21st right after zelensky won overwhelmingly 73% of the vote in an election that got a lot of international attention. on the phone call, zelensky was actor and comedian before he was
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politician. was very new to this game. he said thank you so much, talking to president trump aboard air force one, the president is. as you can see we tried very hard to do our best. we had you as a great example. he looked to president trump in many ways modern-day politics as the guy who broke the mold. zelensky felt he did the very same in the country of ukraine. sandra: absolutely. zelensky was outsider, had a tv show, won the election by a wide margin. when i look at the beginnings of the relationship between president trump and president zelensky, time and time again president trump tries to do a reset. beginning his relationship in a bilateral way, not sticking with the format of way things were done in the past. starting from scratch. now as part of that, did he want something accomplished? did he want an investigation into joe biden before he would let this young comedian, new president from ukraine sort of get what he wanted out of the equation?
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that is sort of the business that brought us here today. one of the things that was interesting to me in kurt volcker's testimony yesterday when he was asked about gordon sondland's relationship with president trump. was it your understanding that he talked to president trump a lot on the phone? because the suggestion has been that is what is going on. kurt volcker said well, he is a big talker so it is hard to tell whether or not he has that active, you know phone call kind of discussions with trump on a regular basis. but one phone call that does seem to be something that was not mentioned was pointed out is that july 26 phone call in the restaurant. remember that comes the day after the phone call with zelensky where the president pushed for this investigation into 2016, into biden. you know, almost appears that is the follow up. did we get what we wanted? that i think will be one of the big questions for gordon sondland today. this was someone asked to
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testify. was told not to testify by the white house. said he wanted to testify. so he is a wild card as we begin this conversation indeed. bill: so our viewers at home know, our stack of papers run deep every day because we're trying to follow it. you can imagine, bret, what viewers at home are trying to do with dates and times. how they are able, not able to keep up with what the central aspect of this investigation is. i thought ambassador volcker was very effective late in the day around 5:00, 5:30. that the president was clearly aware he said that corruption was big endemic problem in the country of ukraine. he was out to fix it. he would not offer the money, military assistance until they showed a commitment to clearing up the corruption. what he went on to explain, with volcker explaining that was trump wanted him to go to the microphone so the world knew he was committed to this. how does that fit in with perhaps rudy giuliani aspect of that? what was happening behind the
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scenes? how does sondland fill in those blanks? that is what opens up the door what could be a wild ward testimony today. >> the problem was for ambassador volcker he too had to amend his testimony saying he didn't see the linkage between burisma and the bidens which for some is hard to believe but it is what he testified to. that he was talking about burisma, the company and corruption that had been previously tied to that company in ukraine. it was a mixed day yesterday. there were times where volcker and morrison, the afternoon witnesses said, they didn't have a problem with what was on that phone call and president trump and president zelensky. there were moments where republicans really scored points going point by point. but at redirect by democrats, volcker said, yes, he thinks it is inappropriate for a president to ask a foreign leader to go after a political opponent. so it was a mixed day.
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bill: quickly, chris wallace while we have a minute. >> yeah. what i was going to say there is one other aspect of this. we're all focusing on the jeopardy, potential jeopardy for president trump depending on what gordon sondland says or doesn't say. there is also a lot of potential jeopardy for gordon zoned land. he has revised his testimony. he will have to testify about things like the july 25th phone call in the kiev restaurant that he never mentioned and he has no protection. remember when john dean testified during the watergate hearings he had already done a plea deal with prosecutors. when john poindexter and oliver north testified during the iran-contra hearings about ronald reagan, they already had a grant of immunity for whatever they testified about before congress. sondland has none of that. both republicans and democrats raised possibility of a criminal referral. one if he does change his testimony, republicans have
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suggested, well we might say he lied in his original deposition and refer this to the justice department and two, if he doesn't change his testimony based on the fact that he has now been contradicted by some of these other witnesses, democrats suggested they might make a criminal referral. so sondland has not only to worry what he says about the president, he has to worry about his own freedom. bill: fair enough. a long day ahead for us. one thing i would mention, the aid was released an september 11th this past year. on september 7th, sondland had a conversation with president trump. martha, chris, bret, stand by. long day for us. sandra: the press is in the room. chairman adam schiff getting ready to drop the gavel on day four of the public impeachment hearings. have the democrats successfully been making their case? will the white house be watching the ambassador's testimony?
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♪. sandra: we are just moments away from u.n. ambassador gordon sondland highly anticipated public testimony after he
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changed his story since his original testimony last month. john roberts and ken starr with us this morning. we begin with ken starr, fox news contributor, former special counsel. good morning. >> good morning. sandra: you called the hearings extravagant politically. so far the hearings have not revealed a crime. does any of that change this morning with sondland's testimony? >> it has the potential to. we have a precip yen witness. have we finally reached a potential john dean moment with very important game-changing testimony? looking back, thus far the president has done extraordinarily well. yes, the ambassador, who was so impressive yesterday, ambassador volcker, what the president said at end of july 25th at the end of that conversation was inappropriate but both those key witnesses in the afternoon were very strong with respect to no crime having been committed,
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right? but the other thing that happened yesterday, is somebody who was supposed to be very important against the president was lieutenant colonel vindman. i think his credibility as a witness was seriously eroded throughout the morning. one key thing is, he overstated that diplomats should not be overstating, he said the president july 25th made a demand. he was caught on that. that also of course is the language of the whistleblower. so yesterday was a good day for the president. but of course, all preceding connecting the dots, all roads and all dots are leading to gordon sondland. sandra: we'll find out in a minute when we talk to john roberts. whether the white house is watching whether they're concerned. republicans will really focus in on whether or not sondland changes his testimony in the closed-door. he said there was no quid pro quo. he revised that after hearing from other witnesses, ken. what would be the legal
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ramifications of that, if he were to change his testimony, or if he doesn't? >> well it is highly significant, if he changes, if he says, there was a quid pro quo, then, that is a potential game-changer. and so obviously we'll have to wait and see exactly what he says. more generally, witnesses change their testimony all the time in the real world. this is obviously an unreal world. and the key is, how is he going to come across, how credible is he? any inconsistency will be drilled into and highlighted. depending on what side, but presumably the, democrats are really going to be hammering him on, if there is a significant change in his testimony. obviously there has been a modification. that will go to the ultimate the question of his credibility. so he is on the spot. this is. all bets are off. how does he come across
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credibly? what is his bottom line? if he says there was quid pro quo. there is potential game-changer. sandra: ken starr, thank you. john roberts now. first many americans will tune in, watching capitol hill this morning. another public impeachment inquiry. they will look at gordon sondland. they will wonder what is the connection with president trump? what is the conversation? >> everyone at white house will hang on sondland's every word. the word wild card is helpful. in terms of what sondland represents. that is what the white house is really worried about. president trump says he doesn't know sondland. in a way that is true. sondland is portland, oregon hotel chain. john mccain, mitt romney, he
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originally backed president bush in the campaign. he distanced himself from president trump at one point after president trump attacked the conn family after the democratic national convention. after president trump won the election, sondland threw a million dollars into the inaugural committee according to various reports, looking to get some sort of plum assignment, maybe an ambassadorship. what the republicans on the committee, what the white house will be really honing in on is what ambassador sondland said in that amended testimony on october 22nd, where he said i always believed that suspending aid to ukraine was ill-advised although i did not know, i still do not know when or by whom the aid was suspended. beginning of september 2019, in the absence of credible explanation for the absence of aid, i presumed, presumed the aid suspension was linked to the proposed anti-corruption
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statement. the white house already drilled down on that word presumed. you can bet that the republicans on the committee today will go after that. did you know, or did you just think? was this an assumption? because when gordon sondland? email exchange, text message exchange on bill taylor, said, what do you want here? the president said nothing. there is no quid pro quo. there is also an article in "the new york times" that is raising some concern at the state department, suggesting that gordon sondland was keeping the secretary of state, mike pompeo in the loop about everything he was doing. so we'll see how that plays out. sandra: what do we know about the president's plans to watch the hearing this morning, jon? >> he is leaving the white house, he is going out of town. leaving fairly early. gets his chance to watch from the residence before he leaves. he has couple hours on air force one to watch it. i assume he will be tuned into a lot what goes on. sandra: we'll watch it together. john roberts, thank you.
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bill: minutes away from the opening gavel. they have run pretty much on course up-to-the-minute. what is billed as the most anticipated witness to date. we heard from that on two other occasions. colonel vindman yesterday, last week ambassador taylor. however goard ford -- gordon sondland has been cast in whole different light. he changed his testimony and based on depositions we mentioned the past 25 minutes he cuts both ways in the depositions. in moments you hear from him, a long opening statement, followed by questions. complete question to begin in a moment here on fox. age... begins october 15th and ends december 7th. so call unitedhealthcare and take advantage of a wide range of plans with a variety of benefits... including an aarp medicare advantage plan from unitedhealthcare. it can combine medicare parts a and b, which is your hospital and doctor coverage...
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>> 9:00 on capitol hill. good morning, everybody. awaiting key testimony now in the impeachment inquiry against president trump set to begin in a matter of moments. the e.u. ambassador gordon sondland about to be sworn in before the house intelligence committee. lawmakers regarding him as what's considered to be a wild
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card witness. has already revised his initial testimony in the president's dealings with ukraine. sondland has arrived and will be before the committee in a moment. late yesterday we had a hearing that lasted deep into the night. we'll see how far we go today. welcome back to continuing coverage on the fox news channel. i'm bill hemmer. >> good morning, bill. i'm sandra smith. lawmakers are expected to double down on a phone call with the president. >> team fox coverage back with us now. chris wallace, bret baier, martha maccallum and bret baier. we'll be with you guys throughout the entire day. ken, we have an oping statement from gordon sondland. there are a lot of skipped areas in 23 pages.

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