that is all the time we have left. we always thank you for being with us. we will never be the rage, hate trump media mob. let not your heart be troubled. the news continues. a laura ingraham is up next. we will see you back here tomorrow night. ♪ >> laura: i'm laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. did we actually watch an impeachment hearing today, or was it one long funeral mask for the democrats customer congressman doug collins and steve scalise are going to break it all down. we are going to hear from dan bongino and here exclusive white house response with pam bondi as well. also tonight, the key reasons, this is going to be important, why president trump wanted answers from ukraine. some of that has gotten lost in this tedious coverage. and ed henry is here with some new reporting on that issue

tonight appeared also raymond arroyo is back with the seen end. a congressman runs out of gas on air. and joe biden becomes a grandfather again today. but first, story time with adam schiff. that's the focus of tonight's "angle." >> those of you at home, time to change the channel, turn down the volume. or hide the kids come up with them to bed. i yield to mr. schiff for story time hour. >> laura: when you think back on your days in kindergarten or first grade may be, you might remember that time each week when your teacher or maybe a special guest sat on a stool or on the floor with the children gathering around, and fabled fairy tales or other stories were read aloud to us wide-eyed children who took it all in. trolls, wizards, there were talking pigs.

it was all magical. the words and the delivery made the fictional characters come to life. but then we grew up, or at least some of us did. others are still selling fiction and acting like it is real life. >> the testimony today is among the most significant evidence to date. and what we have just heard from ambassador sondland is that the knowledge of this, this conditioning of the white house was a basic quid pro quo. it goes right to the heart of the issue of bribery as well as other potential high crimes and misdemeanors. >> laura: all day, schiff tried to play the role of sir lancelot, who rushes in to slay the trump dragon. of course the media playing the part of objective journalists tried to help him. >> this is a bombshell but it is explosive. very explosive.

>> this is a slow-motion explosion. >> i can't emphasize how explosive this is. >> we have witnessed today on live television, riveting. >> ambassador sondland testimony had such gravity to it. speak of this was an ied from mr. solid. he exploded. >> laura: he physically exploded? that could have gotten messy. but when we leave their world of make-believe, we see that there is no there there. >> president trump never told me directly that the aide was conditioned on the means. >> so it wasn't really a presumption, you heard from mr. giuliani? >> i didn't hear from mr. giuliani about the eight, i heard about burisma and 2016. >> you understood at that point as we discussed, two plus two equals four, the aide was there as well appeared >> that was the problem, no one told me directly that the aide was tied to anything. i was presuming it was.

>> laura: presuming, thinking, believing, feeling. we are going to impeach a president on someone's opinion in the absence of cold, hard fact? there were a lot of opinions and beliefs of today but zero evidence. >> my belief was, i believe that was to be the case. i was presuming that it was. >> i think. >> my personal presumption. >> that was my belief. >> my personal belief. >> my personal belief, as you put it, two plus two equals four. >> laura: he's good at math, too. two plus two equals four? that right. riveting, explosive! and how persuasive. congressman brad wenstrup, although not a lawyer, had fun with that. >> a mathematic fact, two plus two dozen fact equal four. but in reality, two presumptions plus two presumptions does not

equal even one fact. >> laura: i've been telling you for many weeks that this was going to be impeachment by opinion or supposition or hearsay with no underlying criminal activity. nothing even close to an impeachable offense. nothing that was said today changed that. congressman mike turner brought everyone down to earth. >> after you testify, chairman schiff ran out and gave a press conference saying he gets to impeach the president of the united states because of your testimony and if you pull up cnn today, right now there banner says "a sondland ties trump to withholding aid." is that your testimony today? i said repeatedly. >> congressman, i was presuming. >> no one on this planet told you that donald trump was tying this aid to the investigation, because if your answer is yes, then the chairman is wrong in the headline on cnn is wrong. no one on this planet told you that president trump was tying add

aid to investigation. >> yes. >> so you really have no testimony today that ties president trump to a scheme to withhold aid from ukraine in exchange for these investigations. >> other than my own presumption. >> which is nothing. >> laura: this was unbelievable. he is thinking, how soon can i get on that plane back to brussels? speaking of presumptions, as americans, we presume, don't we, that congress will actually work in the nation's interest. that it will pursue sound legislation and oversight for sure with deep respect for the constitution. yet in watching this travesty play out, we see just how naive that presumption is. and one final thought, recall how often democrats have trotted out this line. >> do you agree the president should not be allowed to ask the investigation of a political

rival? >> you said it's wrong to investigate political opponents. you do think it's appropriate and objectionable to seek to get a foreign government to investigate a political rival, am i right? >> laura: should call them hypocritical is a gross understatement tonight. investigating their political opponent is precisely what the democrats have been doing to trump since 2016. and to do so, they have used the pfizer course, they used informants, they trotted out conspiracy theories, they tried to take down his family, they employed mold and use it use foreign intermediaries, that's all. ukraine aid was delayed for what, a few weeks? he got his meeting without having to enhance any investigation and zelensky said his conversation with trump on july 25th was normal. no pressure. americans are savvy and they are

smart. and i bet most deep down in the sense that this has been and continues to be a colossal waste of time. great economic news keeps rolling in, meanwhile. folks are already looking forward to the holidays. i am. trump's policies mean that more people will get bonuses this christmas. if you are are out of work. that is all great news. even if in silence democrats are suffering from a wicked case of buyers remorse tonight, a new poll the important battleground state of wisconsin it shows trump beating every top democratic candidate. gallup has its approval numbers up two-point even as schiff's grimm fairy tale. story time is almost over, but unlike when we were four or five years old, now we can't wait for it to end, and that is

"the angle." joining me now, ranking member on the house committee which should be doing this, but congressman, is there any positive take away tonight for the democrats? because they walked out on that first break like they just hit the lotto. they were like, we got the quid pro quo, he said quid pro quo! thoughts? >> the democrats out there, one good thing for the democrats, they are one day closer to finally finishing. there one day closer to finally finishing. we've done everything we possibly can to take on a president who is doing great things for our country. we spun tales and we even tried math which failed miserably again today and they took it all from a gentleman who said, i'm presuming this. i thought about this. it may happen. this is the problem, when you have nothing, when you have a president who actually looks after tax payer dollars, i have an interesting statistic for you, did you know there was a

study done in ukraine that set over 60% of the population said they had actually bribed a public official. if you want to understand where ukraine is as bad as it is, listen to me. but at the end of the day, what you heard was the sound of a balloon being deflated. they did not have anything out there. >> laura: eric swalwell was out there today, not only acting again like, we got it, we got i it. adding charge after charge after charge to the list, the basket of deplorable charges. watch. >> we heard very powerful evidence today in the exchange between chairman schiff and ambassador sondland. evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors to include abuse of power, obstruction of congress, also extortion, and also evidence of bribery. powerful, uncontradicted so far in all of the witnesses that we have her, evidence of all of that. >> laura: and carjacking. what else can they throw in there? >> maybe he was laid on the

library book return, but for eric swalwell to be doing this, he is having trouble with talking points, it's no doubt, but obviously, his stories don't work. the problem is when you get to this point and you listen to eric swalwell talk about this, he just starts throwing out names. extortion, bribery, it's like he's leading to his old law school book. this looks cute, let's talk about this. there's a big problem. when you're trying to accuse somebody and take down a president, you better come with something more than you know how to pronounce words in a law book. and they don't have it. when they bring these menaces and they are finding out that there is no quid pro quo. the president said, mr. zelensky needs to do what's right, i don't want anything. this is a day in which you saw their hopes and dreams of what they thought was that first 30 minutes now deflated into nothing. >> laura: i'm going to ask about the whistle-blower in a moment but to the point you just made, democrats think that investor sondland gave them the

evidence they need to impeach trump and so forth, claiming that trump made aid contingent upon all of these things happening. but actually, here's what was actually said. >> to the president ever tell you personally about any preconditions for anything? >> no. >> the president ever told you about any preconditions for the aid to be released? >> no. speak of the president never told you about any preconditions for a white house meeting? >> personally, no. >> laura: how can there be a quid pro quo here? how can they go after the cameras, and i'm glad they were called out on that whole deal by congressman turner. but how do you, as the chairman of this intel committee, go out, claim other people are basically lying, and you basically just lie about what was i? >> this is nothing new for adam schiff. he sound like you're surprised that adam schiff has told a story here. if we are adam schiff

story time, he sold a lot of whoppers over the years. his collusion in plain sight. the president has been doing this forever. they accused him of being a russian agent. this is a gentleman who cannot handle the truth. he cannot handle the problem that is right in front of him. if he has been tasked by speaker pelosi to do something that they have not been able to do, and that is fine something on this president. accept the fact that the economy is good, people are working and people are looking at this on their tv and saying, what is he talking about? i think when you understand that, than the american people understand they are attacking a president because they just all i can. >> laura: they don't like the policies, they wanted him out from day one. the president's numbers are going up, they left of the idea of trump winning wisconsin, he's up against the top four candidates. big news about deval patrick, people should stay tuned for that but this was an odd, odd moment because i think when you broke it all down, they were

trying to retrofit impeachment into a set of facts that don't bear it out. they had to keep doubling down with the emotion, and whether it's talking about the biography of one of the witnesses, they have to focus on that or they have to focus on, well, ambassador sondland is a friend of trump's and he still saying these things. but when it gets to the substance, they always, always falter. even schiff was called out by saying that whistle-blower's name has to remain secret. statutorily. it does not. >> only for the inspector general himself. the interesting thing is, if you have the facts, you have the facts. if you have the law, you argue the law. if you don't have either of those can be stand on the table and yell. they are standing on the table and yelling because i could tell you in high school i could make every jump shot, every girl on the cheerleading court thought it was the great but when the reality come in, it doesn't come

back. notice something here, the president was making fun, talking about the last few years, the bureaucratic mess. look at what's happening. you want to tie something together? taylor, you tie these together. they thought they should be the ones directing policy. >> laura: they are directing policy. >> take this back even further. if an they've been after this president since 2016. the bureaucrats who said, we will have the insurance policy, we will take care of this. we are the ones who know better. >> laura: this has pulled back the curtain on the bureaucracy, it's a sheer sense of entitlement. we have these jobs, were never going to lose them. you are going to be gone at some point, mr. trump and we will be here running policy. if they don't like anyone intruding upon their space, this whole government needs to be cut back and the money flow has got to stop to these agencies and frank frankly the federal agencies. the people in this country need

the money to stay in this country. great to see you tonight. despite hours of meetings that we just talked about, democrats still can't stitch together a coherent case. we've made this point, and americans have to get a sense of whether they can easily grasp it or not. here to debate this is dan bongino, fox news contributor, author of the book "exonerated." and chris hahn, former aid to senator chuck schumer and host of the aggressive progressive podcast. what will the democrats' next move be to try to salvage today's hearing? schiff just tonight, again, the idea of the whistle-blower coming to testify. that is not going to happen, so what next? >> it's over. they will probably have to go to aesop's fables and inventive folks at number five. trump has alien dna, i don't know. it's just ridiculous where they're going to go next. let's just boil this down to the facts to make it easy for the viewers to digest.

the democrats' original case was there was a this for that quid pro quo. a request for information on burisma and investigations in exchange for aid. we now know that is not true. the aid arrived and there are no investigations. then it morphed into, well, it will be a white house meeting for aid. now we find out the white house meeting was offered without conditions and no meeting happened. that morphed into, well, we need a statement from zelensky in exchange for aid. no statement was given, the aid arrived. this case is nonsensical and by the way, now an attempted quid pro quo and the only on the record statement we have about a quid pro quo is the president of the united states and, i want to be crystal clear, no quid pro quo. this is really open and shut. >> laura: at one point, ambassador sondland seemed to kind of cast down its own reliability as a witness. watch. >> i've had hundreds of meetings and calls with individuals. but i'm not a notetaker or a

memo writer. never have been. talking with foreign leaders might be memorable to some people, but this is my job. i do it all the time. >> laura: chris, does that sound like a witness democrats should be confident in? he's kind of grasping for memories, relying on presumptions of other people, and thoughts and beliefs that he had but he doesn't have any contemporaneous recollection of or memorialization of? what is going on here? >> one thing he was crystal clear about was that he worked with rudy giuliani at the request of the president and the president's own transcript and the president's own transcript, when he talked to the president of ukraine, said work with giuliani on this investigation of my political opponent. i'm paraphrasing of course, but it's there, read it. that is the crux of this case. the president of the united states -- i'm asking the

american people to read the transcript. he said, i would like you to investigate burisma and this thing with the bidens and the prosecutor. he was talking about that. he wanted him to work with giuliani. sondland with giuliani in the ukraine, said the president told giuliani to work with him. two instances now if the president asking rudy giuliani to go to the ukraine and investigate a political opponent. the aid was held up, it was not released until the whistle-blower came forward and congress came knocking at his door. the president asked for a bribe, we know this, an attempted bride. it didn't succeed. but attempted bribery is still bribery. attempted extortion is still extortion. >> laura: if somebody -- >> dan, you know it, i know it, the american people know it. >> laura: they are really bad at bribing them, okay? a bunch of different responses from the white house. marc short has invested her gordon sondland was never alone with vice president pence on that september 1st trip to

poland. the alleged call to investors on the never happened, and saying gordon sondland never told mike pompeo that the president was linking aid to political opponent. any suggestion of the country is flat-out false and also, investors on lens testimony today misrepresented at secretary perry his interaction with mayor giuliani and direction he received from president trump. pompeo saying bonk on this. >> i mean, nothing sondland set of substance was actually true. by the way, read the transcript? i did, i have it right here. what chris said is not actually in the transcript, he clearly hasn't read it. >> it's there. >> this is an open and shut case of bribery. it's fascinating because we had multiple witnesses come forward and chris can't point to one

that is actually said that they have evidence of any bribery at all. this is like a case of a bank robbery where the witness doesn't know about a bank. there was no bank even robbed. none of the witnesses actually said that. you're just making all of this up. what you said is in the transcript is not in it. you can read it. i have it right here. speak of the official who testified today said that the ukrainians were aware that the money was being held up on july 25th. they knew this a long time before the president had to say anything. there is lots of evidence that the president was holding this over their head. sondland's call with the president which was overheard by two officials, in which the president only cares about the bidens. i'm sorry, you know it, you are twisting yourself into a pretzel. i didn't know you were a contortionist, you're a great. >> laura: there's important news on what chris just said tonight. they were asking in general about assistance, which the witness did admit happens quite regularly on the part of all

foreign countries who are checking in on whether they are going to get their assistance. at that point was made and continues to be made in the testimony, but that was a great conversation, both of you. coming up, we explore the root of trump's frustration with ukraine. what else is there? next.

♪ >> laura: one thing we've learned from the parade of bureaucrats testifying over the last few days is this, the more corrupt a country is the more money they want to throw at it. speak of national security community expressed unanimous support for resuming the funding in u.s. national security interests. >> i understood the stalemate to me they would not receive the much needed military assistance funds. >> i think zelensky, if i

recall, asked the question more open-ended, like "when do we get our money?" >> well, okay. >> laura: jovanovich said they could always use more, remember that? trump is of a different mind-set when it comes to sending tax dollars to other countries with a history of corruption. got to be really careful. but the president's frustration with ukraine goes a lot deeper, back to 2016 when government officials there took actions to hurt his electoral chances. joining me now, ed henry, fox news chief national correspondent. great to see you tonight. are there any merits to trump's concerns about ukraine that do go back to 2016 and what are they? >> some of it has to do with foreign aid and the use of taxpayer money and democrats like dick durbin, as you will find out in a moment, have been pressing for answers and maybe agree with the president about having some strength in making sure the money is spent well. all the talk of bombshells real and imagined, the ukraine has

been billed as the third most corrupt country in the world. the upper president that is always skeptical of foreign aid and he has been transparent about wanting a review of what is known as ukraine security assistance initiative to make sure that the hundreds of millions of taxpayer money actually is spent in the best interests of america. also lost in these hearings, were democrats saying they want to help defend ukraine against russian aggression. the same democrats did not get then president barack obama to give ukraine lethal aid to battle russia. instead he will remember the obama administration literally offered blankets to the ukrainian military. it was known as nonlethal aid while it was president trump who gave them lethal aid in the form of the missiles. here's the new naked nugget i have gotten tonight, they were repeatedly claiming falsely that they have statutory right to anonymity. tonight, republican

lindsey graham was saying that schiff was not telling the truth today when he said they only release the military aid to ukraine after the president got caught with holding it by the whistle-blower. congress wanted investigation on whether there were quid pro quo regarding the bidens. he told the president that graham and other several other republicans were going to vote the next day in favor of an amendment by a democrat mentioned a moment ago that would've blocked all of the money in the pentagon's budget in order to prevent the pred as to my stomach president. i checked the facts. politico reported on thursday, december 12, the white house had caved and given the money to ukraine because of pressure from dick durbin. he told politico at the time, it is beyond coincidence that they released at the night before our vote in the committee. they have a democrat tearing apart a false claim by schiff. back in september, the reason

the aid was released was because of pressure from both parties, not because the president got caught by the whistle-blower. you ask about 2016, the president's anger also has to do with whether or not the server was there in ukraine. democrats have repeatedly said at these impeachment hearings that this is a conspiracy theory and the president is wrong. he put his concerns about what happened in 2016 together with the skepticism about foreign aid, and the narrative that is been pushed by schiff, couple of moments ago you had chris hahn saying the president got caught by the whistle-blower and that is where the aid was released. he just said that on your show. lindsey graham told us tonight, we just checked the facts, it was dick durbin, a democrat, who pressured the president to get the money to ukraine and after that pressure, the president gave it. that didn't necessarily have anything to do with the whistle-blower. that doesn't fit schiff's narrative but those of the facts. >> laura: fascinating. a lot of this gets lost in the drama or attempted drama of

these impeachment hearings. now i am really happy because our next guest, is this your first television appearance? >> second. >> laura: second! never say something on tv you don't 100% know is true. it's great to see you. >> first time on fox. >> laura: great to see you. the president was smashing back his critics today, texas, to open that apple plant. the economy is humming. what is the mode of the present customer has been, what is it? >> we are completely exonerated. the mood is great, we are exonerated, that is no spin. the president did nothing wrong for every day, two days, schiff, today is the day, today is the day and look at what they did today, completely exonerated president trump. >> laura: does anyone think solomon might not of been the best

choice for e.u. ambassador. staffing is really important. i don't know, maybe he is the nicest guy ever, he seems like he can't remember a lot of things and acts on a lot of other people's presumptions. kind of an odd thing. >> what he did remember, no quid pro quo. >> laura: he did say quid pro quo at one point and that was twisted by adam schiff to mean a political benefit, but he also said today that everyone, meaning top administration officials were in the loop on this kind of quid pro quo for the investigation. here is what he actually said. >> this email was sent to secretary pompeo, secretary perry, chief of staff mulvaney, a lot of senior officials. a lot of senior officials. everyone was in the loop. it was no secret. >> laura: i think pretty much all those officials, maybe not mulvaney, but everyone else has denied that.

>> pretty quickly, haven't they? they were all shooting things out. and pretty sure pompeo wasn't even in the country and they were responding right away. there is nothing there. there has never been anything there, as we've been saying. they continuously done this to the president and they are going to keep doing it. >> laura: his point was there was a quid pro quo to launch an investigation to get a meeting. the meeting happened anyway and there was no investigation. all of those things fall by the wayside because they have made a decision that trump is a bad person and we need to have a democrat in the white house and that is it. that is kind of the whole story. >> win at all costs. they want to overthrow the last election and influence in the next election and they are not going to be able to do it. the time frame, when a new president is elected, zelensky was an unknown. parliament didn't even meet until the end of august. everyone can say i'm anticorruption, but we have to wait and see what parliament was

going to do. what did zelensky do? he stepped up to the plate, he got a new prosecutor general, tough new legislation, he took away the immunity that members of parliament had. >> laura: last time i was in ukraine was 1983 when it was soviet and i think he's going to surprise a lot of people. zelensky. really quick, yell worried about what cooper said tonight about the july 25th call claiming that the ukraine did inquire as to why assistance, not aid, but assistance was a slow? >> not at all. >> laura: does that hurt your narrative? they didn't know, didn't inquire. >> no, not at all. emails from staffers, there was an email from staff, and all it was was it was about ukraine and it was about aid. but it was not about being withheld. >> laura: checking in on it. congressman said you were talking about assistance, not hold. >> of course, not a hold. >> laura: but the democrats

are seizing on that, saying they killed one of your arguments. >> keep going. they have nothing. >> laura: are you having fun? >> i'm having fun because i'm defending a president who is great and out there working every single day. >> laura: we will wait. we will give trump that in his stocking for christmas. great to see you as always. up next, is the impeachment saga failing to resonate with the american people customer could actually be hurting the democrats, the elites? we dig into the latest polls. don't miss it. t... like salonpas patch large. it's powerful, fda-approved to relieve moderate pain, yet non-addictive and gentle on the body. salonpas. it's good medicine. hisamitsu.

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>> laura: but not really. trump's job approval rating is actually up two points from last month according to today's gallup survey. 57% of americans approve of trump's handling of the economy. i hope so, given what the economy is looking like. it's a rocket ship. the highest since he has been in office. resistance to impeachment is also growing in battleground states like wisconsin. 53% of voters there oppose it. and as we know, trump is pulling ahead of the top 2020 contenders there. joining me now come a long time pollster and potential 2020 candidate, mike bloomberg fox news contributor. two democrats really realize what is happening outside of the walls of those hearing rooms? to take it with the people are here and not watching? >> they surely starting to recognize and thinking about pulling the rip cord because people are saying, why aren't

you focusing on prescription drug prices, creating more jobs with the u.s. and ca trade deal. or, by the way, nancy pelosi hasn't brought a bill to the floor to make sure our troops have the tools they need to train safely. they're not doing any of that stuff because they are obsessed of impeachment and people are sick and tired of this stuff. they are watching these career bureaucrats have policy disagreements. >> laura: he watched the ratings and watched the numbers, how people are tuning in and it is quite staggering to see the drop-off in viewership for these hearings, contrary to what we saw with bill clinton, the nixon impeachment. day one, 30 million people, day two, 12.7. day three and that was the big star witness, that went down to four. they liked the uniform but maybe not watching it all day. this is not gathering steam. it's gathering dust.

speak at the polling is also showing that people are not only not persuaded by what they are hearing, they are saying they be persuaded. look, i'm a democrat and i thought representative scalise's advice to my party was very goo good. we won the midterms based on health care, the environment, gun violence prevention. those are the issues on which the democrats can win. they are not going to win the election on impeachment, and if the president sticks to what bill clinton said and talks about the issues the country is facing and focuses on that, president trump will do better listening to the guy i worked for during impeachment. >> laura: but nancy pelosi said, we can walk and chew gum at the same time, and she did that whole thing, but they haven't been doing anything. right before christmas, she wanted to say, see? we delivered. she is going to do something, no

doubt about it, but not until they drag us through this for weeks of sleep inducing, spirit congressman, ambassador sondland seem to have some spotty memory except when he recalled the president saying i don't want anything from ukraine, no quid pro quo. democrats seized on that and then there was an odd ending. watch. >> there are several other conversations that you cannot recall because you don't have your notes or your documents or your emails, or other information, but you remember that call specifically, exactly what the president said to you in response to your question about what do you want. why is that? >> i remember the first girl i kissed. >> i want to say that. >> [laughs] >> laura: i don't know what she was going to say there. maybe a little bit of a spicy joke. we could have used some more humor, frankly, today.

people didn't quite know how to react at these moments, he seemed kind of like a hapless, gosh, how did i get here? how did i get a million dollar check to the inaugural and i just get a t-shirt. all i got was this subpoenaed to appear at the hearing. >> his t-shirt was i just want to get out of here without being convicted of perjury. the day started off with the democrats drooling over this idea that they thought sondland said quid pro quo, that was the headline this morning. then it turned out, mike turner said it best, no one on this planet told you that president trump tied foreign aid to investigations. and sondland said, correct. that is the end of it. the investigation should end now, laura. >> laura: failed presidential candidate eric swalwell is crying because he was not on stage tonight, threw out a rather wet hypothetical about presumptions. >> finally, one final

hypothetical. if someone walks through those two doors wearing rain boots, a raincoat, and holding an umbrella with raindrops falling off of them, do you have to see outside that it is raining to presume or conclude that it might be raining as i? >> i understand or hypothetical. >> what this says to me is that ambassador sondland didn't see anything. he didn't see an umbrella, rain boots, anything. it wasn't there. i agree with representative scalise. what i take away at the end of the day is who knows what this guy thinks. but you certainly can't base and impeachment on anything he said because he talks out of all sides of his mouth, and he has these convenient memory lapses, and he is not the most articulate guy i've ever heard or has the best memory. >> laura: the rain boots, the

first case, and i'm not sure we got much farther than that. congressman scalise, we will see whether television ratings -- exactly. coming up, some revealing body language from impeachment hearings you probably missed. plus, congressman has a stinker of an interview. i can't believe we are doing this segment with raymond arroyo next. do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to aging? prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended memory support brand.

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♪ >> laura: it's time for seen and unseen where we expose the big cultural stories of the day. body language of the impeachment hearings, swalwell stinks it up and the bidens have a new arrival. joining us with all the details, raymond arroyo, fox news contributor. you've been watching these hearings around the edges, i should say.

the rest of us have to watch every minute. you're looking for different types of moments. what did you see? >> you know i always look for those little unseen, unintended moments because that is where you learn a lot. if you watch the highlights he probably missed this one from monday. this is lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, being offered a defense post by the governmenn government, watch his reaction. >> did ambassador bolton never follow up with you about that? rather significant. they offered you the post of defense minister. >> i don't believe there was ever a follow-up discussion. >> laura, look at the body language. i talked to body language experts. when you get agitated and nervous, your nose and gorges. people do it, it's a negative reaction and they are thoughtful and this is refocusing reality.

this was the moment he was most out of control throughout the hearing. something mysterious happened there. we also received some criticism when we dared to joke about the boat tied deputy secretary of state george kent. he slugged water during his testimony. he had that enormous water silo bottle there. but water consumption during intense moments can tell us a lot about the emotional state of an individual. did you catch ambassador sondland throughout today's testimony? >> must personally income announced personally. >> press conference, do you know how that happened? >> what someone else told me. >> there is no evidence of bribery. >> a boycott will buy the livelihood of thousands -- >> you suggested the president sometimes communicates -- >> when you don't want to be bothered about what people are talking about you just drink. we are ready to exploding every slurp, every gulp of these

hearings. >> laura: the left has become so humorless, they raked rubio over the coals on late night and beyond. they raked paul ryan over the coals for this debate. he also caught an expression from devin nunes after someone's initial testimony. very telling. >> this was telling. the ranking membership, be careful because these cameras catch everything. watch. >> this was after he thought that sondland had said there was a quid pro quo. later he reversed himself in the second part. he is too close. he's got to realize, audiences watching at home, they are sleepy or -- sleepier than ed steen's bodyguards. they are dozing off. the former presidential candidate eric swalwell has been known to toot his horn a little bit and expel hot air at times

but after this msnbc interview, he really caused a stink. >> so far the evidence is uncontradicted that the president used taxpayer dollars to help him cheat and election. >> very quickly, the hashtag "fart gate" swamped social media. this probably went through numerous revisions. it was not me. msnbc jumped to his defense to eating it was actually a mug scraping across the desk. i thought it was a phone vibrating. >> laura: it happens. it hasn't happened to me but it does happen. >> we did a forensic study and she discovered that flatulence is not a rarity on the chris matthews show. >> gave me the skinny here, can we get a clean, fair, honest election in florida tomorrow? what is the penalty for this kind of case? >> yes, and in fact,

michael cohen already stood up in court when he pleaded guilty in the southern district of new york. >> laura: [laughs] >> it is clearly an epidemic. i don't blame swalwell. >> laura: they must have something wrong with their chair, okay? they're pushing -- >> a chair or cushion or something. >> laura: they need to put a cushion at the next hearing, someone has to do a double dog dare. but there will be cushion underneath swalwell and really get this going. i'm crying mascara. up next, new star for the democrats has an embarrassing turn, how sad. billions of mouths.

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atlanta. but the event was canceled because, well, no one showed up. wow. eric swalwell must have cleared it out beforehand. shannon bream, "fox news @ night" team next. ♪ >> shannon: we begin with a fox news alert tonight for the top 102020 democrats facing up for the fifth time in atlanta. the first time since mayor pete buttigieg is by skyrocketing numbers, confronted by his lack of experience. the progressive versus moderate divide on display on taxes and health care. tonight, the end of day two oakley two of the house democrats' marathon impeachment hearings. a key witness when pressed admits the president never told him anything was hanging in the balance for ukraine. so tonight, president trump called victory and so do the democrats. real debate. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington.