♪ >> shannon: welcome back to "fox news @ night" live special expended coverage. i am shannon bream in washington. this year you will hear from some of the 2020 democratic presidential candidates themselves as the fifth primary debate is now in the book spread climate change and health insurance, top topics. defense, not so much. the progressive-moderate divide was on the debate stage as contenders jockeyed for support from the lab. plus, day two of weak two of the house democrats marathon impeachment hearings. the left side today's hearing is game over for president trump. the president said ambassador sondland exonerated him, and we wrap up the latest, in his words, witch-hunt. how is this playing across america? brand-new poll numbers. we begin with highlights from

the fifth democratic presidential primary debate. correspondent ellison barber is in atlanta tonight. good evening, ellison. >> hey, shannon. you can see behind me, senator klobuchar is speaking to a large group of reporters, more and more candidates are coming out, making their way to the spin room and speaking with various media who are gathered here. of course, wealth and equality as well as health care are top issues for democrats in 2020, and so is beating president trump, despite being some 600 miles away from washington, d.c., it was impossible for this debate to move out of the shadow of the impeachment inquiry. after all, it keeps coming up at the hearings, was on the stage here in atlanta tonight. here is former vice president joe biden. >> i learned something about these impeachment trials. i learned, number one, donald trump does not want me to be the nominee. that is pretty clear. he held of aid to make sure that at the same time innocent people are getting killed by russian soldiers.

>> the rest of the democratic candidates have consistently said impeachment is bigger than politics and all have been supporting the impeachment inquiry. other big moments, discussions on health care. the top three candidates are split there. senator sanders and warren want medicare for all. biden is adamant that plan will not pass the house or the senate. he believes we should build on the affordable care act, at a medicare for all option so people can choose that if they want that or if they want to stick with their private plans. every debate is a chance for lower poorly candidates to make waves, challenge the top-tier candidates, and may be righted to the polls. early in the debate, senator cory booker pushed back on one of senator warren's signature plans, the wealth tax. listen here. >> i don't agree with the wealth tax, the way that elizabeth warren puts it. >> $0.02 of a top one-tenth of 1% in this country, and we can provide universal child care for

every baby in this country, and ages of 0 to 5. that is trance formative. >> cumbersome. we as democrats have to start talking about, not just how we tax, but how we grow wealth and wow amongst disadvantaged communities >> booker is one of the candidates that a that has a lot at stake. he's been holding under 3% for the last few months for the next democratic debate as i did take place in los angeles on decembex candidates have qualified for that debate so far. booker has not yet qualified. shannon? >> shannon: ellison barber live in atlanta. thank you. correspondent peter doocy is working the spin room in atlanta as well to talk with one of the top contenders. good evening, peter. >> good evening, and i just spoke to senator kamala harris on her way off the debate stage. we'll have that tape for you in a little bit. about a mixup, a dust up, whatever you want to call it, with tulsi gabbard. this is the one.

>> our democratic party, unfortunately, is not the party that is up, buy, and for the people. it is a party that has been and continues to be influenced by the foreign policy establishment in washington, represented by hillary clinton and others' foreign policy, by the military-industrial complex. >> we have someone on the stage who during the obama administration spent four years full-time o on fox news criticizing president obama. >> senator harris is doing unfortunately continuing to traffic and lies. she will come as president, continue the status quo. >> and i asked senator harris to make her case to me who came out on top there in the harris versus gabbard fight, if you want to call it, or confrontation. she said that she thought that she did because, again, she was trying to make the point that -- harris was trying to make the point that she has been a democrat, she thinks, for longer

in her life than tulsi gabbard house. so that is the first candidate that we've been able to wrangle but we are going to try to talk to mayor pete buttigieg in just a moment. so stay tuned for that. shannon? >> shannon: we know you captured him on the campaign trail before so we hope you will do so again today. peter, we'll come back to you when that happens. thank you. despite the marathon impeachment hearing today, impeachment didn't get a whole lot of play on the debate stage. let's break it down. great to see both of you tonight. >> hi, shannon. >> shannon: kristin, first of all, your impressions of the day today, two very big stories. >> first and foremost, the impeachment hearings, sondland was such an important witness for the democrats. so many witnesses who have said, i overheard a call, i overheard someone who said something. sondland is someone who had direct contact with the president. he was particularly valuable as someone who could confirm or

disprove that the president had said, was there a quid pro quo. that is the most interesting part of the hearing, congressman will hurd, a congressman from texas, asked sondland come he said come on the one hand, rudy giuliani said quid pro quo. then he said the president said, no quid pro quo. how do you reconcile those two things? sondland said, i don't know. when you look at the polls, that is where a not insignificant chunk of america tends to be. they may think that it sounds like the president did something that wasn't great but they are not quite sure that it rises to the level of impeachment yet or they are still waiting to see more information. >> shannon: okay, leslie, what about you? didn't get a whole lot of discussion on the stage tonight. it seems like these folks said, we can't depend on that, we will go to the ballot box and beat him there. it seems like house democrats are planning another plan of attack. >> what's happening in the house and impeachment is one thing and what is happening on the debate stage, as we saw tonight, are the candidate talking about most of the issues that democrats

care about. even though democrats care more so than republicans, as we see, by a large majority in the polls, up to 86% of democrats and some polls favor impeachment of the president, and favor these hearings. but that is not what is going to get people to vote for these individuals, to be their nomin nominee. for democratic -- on the democratic platform in 2020 for president. that is why i think it was wise for the candidates tonight to touch upon it as they did then to move on to the issues. >> shannon: leslie, both of you, stand by. peter doocy is now with mayor pete buttigieg. we want to go there left to atlanta. >> thank you very much, shannon. mayor pete, this is the first debate where you have been really fending off attacks from your democratic rifles, given your stance in the polls. how did it feel? >> it felt like one more opportunity to get our message out. when attacks come your way, you know you need to respond. the most important thing is to

deliver our message about what is going to take, not just to end the trump presidency, why i am the best nominee to do that, but then what? what are we going to do that first day when donald trump is no longer in the white house? how do we prepare an era that we are going to be proud of in this country, where we are getting big things done and unifying the american people to make it happen? tonight was an opportunity not just to get into the individual policies i believe in, but to talk about why this campaign is so motivated. >> did it bother you, it seems like congresswoman gabbard was questioning your service record? >> obviously we have a very different opinion on a great number of things, some of that came out tonight. we were respectful and substantive debate. >> you have been surging in iowa and new hampshire. you talk about your struggles in a place like south carolina. after debate here in atlanta, do you think your answers to questions might have set aside some black voters who don't know about you? >> certainly, this was another opportunity to reach out and connect with black voters who i can tell are still getting to

know me and sizing me up. i have a responsibility to make sure that i get that message out without the benefit of having been a national name for years and years. that means not only explaining the policies, like our douglas plan for black america that is about tearing down systemic racism, creating not just economic opportunity, but greater access to justice, housing, education, health, and voting, before we get into those policies, i want to make sure that i convey who i am and why i care. >> was there anything that you would have done differently? my last question, now that you've had half an hour to think about it. >> there is always something but i will try to sleep on it. >> thank you very much. all right, back to you, shannon. >> shannon: peter doocy live in the spin room. my next guest, not getting personal tonight while debating paid family leave, here's a bit of that. >> we need to have a freedom dividend from day one, $1,000 a month for every american adult who can put many places

twodollars a month, so they can pay for child care, or if they want, stay home with a child. we should not be pushing everyone to leave their home and go to the workforce. >> shannon: joined me now, 2020 presidential candidate andrew yang. good to have you back on "fox news @ night." >> hey, shannon, good to be back for a thank you for having me praise. when we were waiting to hear from you. you continue to make the stage. you feel like you are getting a chance to break through because there are a lot of big-name contenders, and it took a while to hear from you tonight. >> [laughs] yeah. i'm happy to say, our message is reaching the american people in ways beyond the debate where we just keep on rising in the polls, a ton of energy around the campaign. we raised $10 million in the last quarter. increments of only $30 each. a very people-powered, grassroots-driven campaign. a debate is a great opportunity but we are not just resting at the debate. >> shannon: radio take it from here? the

next debate is december. you are crisscrossing the country. place like iowa, new hampshire, we are seeing mayor pete buttigieg really making striking gains. what does it take for you to get that done? >> we are very excited about the progress we are seeing on the ground in iowa and new hampshire. i'm heading back to iowa again later this week. the crowds just keep getting bigger, the energy just keeps getting higher, and you will see the poll numbers rise in those days and that is to come. >> shannon: okay, i want to read something from "the washington post" talking about that you have gotten so much attention about this idea of a freedom dividend or whatever you would like to call it, essentially, everyone 18 and over gets a certain payment each month from the government to give them a little more freedom with their professional life and whatever else is going on with them. "the washington post" talking about this, it says "the biggest challenge should be. freedom dividend will remain the key factor that her burritos the sap -- something i know the nixon administration essentially, the payment, others

getting something for nothing, the most revolutionary aspect of universal cash grant, breaking the link between work and reward is also the most controversial." you certainly understand the objections to that concept. >> the great thing, shannon, if everyone is getting it come with that objection tends to disappear. there is one state that it had a dividend for everyone in the state for almost 40 years, that is a deep red conservative state, alaska, where everyone there is getting an oil dividend of between one and $2,000 a year. as wildly popular 40 years in. what i am seeing is that technology is the oil of the 21st century and we can do this for all of our people particularly because right now the marketplace is not recognizing the kind of work that my wife does at home with our two boys every single day or the work that millions of stay-at-home parents or caregivers are doing that we know if some of the most important work in our families and communities. >> shannon: you also have a lot of concerns about automated

ai, artificial intelligence. there was a new report out today that i saw that was talking about the fact that it's not just blue-collar jobs that need to be worried, its white-collar jobs that need to be worried. you continue to raise the red flag about this. there are the reports saying it doesn't actually line up with the data. so your worries are overblown. how do you respond? >> shannon, the people that know the most about this space are the most concerned, where ai is about to leave the lab and start ripping through various organizations, i spoke to 70 ceos in new york city and i asked them, how many of you are looking at having ai replace your back office clerical workers? all 70 hands went up. people who are deep into the business world to know that these changes are going to affect white-collar workers, lawyers, accountants, pharmacists, radiologists, it's not just drivers and warehouse workers and retailer workers and call center workers. a lot of white-collar work is what is called repetitive cognitive work, and it's going to be subject to displacement by artificial intelligence in the days to come.

that is one reason we dividend so we have to mr. trent transition through the greatest economic transformation in our country's history. >> shannon: do you think americans are going to get on board? we talked about the concept of work and reported having a connection, knowing this money is coming from taxpayer money, a lot of folks are going out to work in worried about their own families, their own needs, know that they are paying into something that will support someone else who may or may not be working in the traditional sense, they are providing for their basic needs themselves, if they are physically able to do so. >> again, shannon, everybody gets it. is not a situation where i am paying into it and you were getting at. we are all getting afraid who are the biggest winners in today's economy? who are the trillion dollars tax tech companies who are sucking him or more value? amazon, google, these giant companies that are paying near zero in taxes. that is where we will get the money to put these dividends into our hands and what it actually spread the benefits of all of this technological and

innovation in some parts of the economy to us, the owners and shareholders of the country. >> shannon: you will have some convincing to do, people who would like to keep that in their own families, but that is why your campaign continues. people seem to love you. you are adding a very different angle to these conversations that are very important. we will see you on the campaign trail. andrew yang, thank you. >> i appreciate that, shannon. >> shannon: back in a moment with more from the spin room. special coverage continues.

>> shannon: back to atlanta where correspondent peter doocy is working this been reimposed debate and he snagged an interview of somebody who criticized someone else for being on fox tonight but you got her to do it, peter, kudos. >> we did. for the first time in any of the spin rooms, we just tossed to

senator kamala harris, this is what she told us. >> senator harris, how do you think it went tonight? >> i thought it was a good debate. there is never enough time to cover all these issues that we need to discuss the matter very much at stake in the selection. i thought it was a good debate. i would have liked that we talked more about a variety of issues, more about climate, we did not talk at all about gun safety. we still have not talked in any meaningful way about education and the importance of dedicating ourselves to the public education system. we have not really had any conversation on that stage about lgbtq issues, so there are a variety of issues that we have yet to really i think have as a subject of a real debate. >> what'd you think about the way that joe biden handles himself in the discussion turns to civil rights issues, and maybe some of the support that he thought he was getting and it seems like you were surprised by what he was saying. >> it was just that i needed to

correct what he said because there are two black women who have been elected in the history of united states senate to the united state senate. i am one of those. so it was just a simple need to correct him on that issue. >> than the harris versus gabbard fight. make your case for why you came out stronger. >> welcome a look. i am a lifelong member, and i believe that there is a need to speak truth about what we have been witnessing in terms of the way that categorizes the democratic party. >> shannon, all that is under because kamala harris was one of the most aggressive democratic candidates on stage this evening. something we really have not seen since that first debate when she challenged joe biden on his civil rights record and of course, her campaign at the time between now and then has

struggled mightily in the polls. >> shannon: one of these debates can really change things for people, putting them right back in the spotlight, donors, all these that they need to move forward. we'll see how tonight plays out for her and the other candidates. creative, we'll come back back to you soon. >> thank you. >> shannon: fact are fox news contributors, leslie marshall and kristen soltis anderson. the big story are the impeachment and debate. ladies, thank you for sticking around. i want to put up an interesting poll that we got to discuss earlier. this is from wisconsin, marquette university law school, he knew poll talking about with registered voters, should the president be impeached or removed, yes or no? yeses or 40%, no was 53%. a15 -- 13-point advantage for the president. you see movement in his direction. kristen, what you make of that? >> numbers on a priest might naturally have been pretty flat ever since the initial release of the transcript of the president's phone call to the president of ukraine announcement by

democrats that they would be embarking on this impeachment inquiry. a lot of that movement was initially democrats that were coming home saying, our leadership has said, let's do this inquiry, so now i support it. ever since then, there has not been a ton of new information that has moved to numbers probably in the democrats' direction. in a state like wisconsin, you are seeing numbers that are more favorable to the president, that national consensus. that is a really good news for the president because ultimately, national polls are interesting in a presidential year by things like the presidential election, that gets spot in the electoral college, e wisconsin will be critical for the president's reelection. for republicans to have a sense in a state like that, there is not as much pressure to support impeachment, that is very helpful to the g.o.p. >> shannon: leslie, you heard marc thiessen on earlier with us from "the washington post," this is what he wrote. "democrats are failing to convince americans that trims misconduct rises to the level of treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. the tie goes to the dealer.

impeachment, the high cost of the president. if impeachment fights democrats to the draw, the president wins." >> even though most voters come the democrats or republicans clearly, the polls have made up their mind. these impeachment hearings are not going to change that, whether somebody is for or against the president or for oregon to ever will be the democratic nominee. here is the issue, okay? you look at this, and you know, i even said this, my prediction is that the democratic majority in the house will vote to impeach, they will drop those articles of impeachment, and the senate, republicans will quit, just like we saw back when bill clinton was impeached years ago. have a different landscape politically then we did then and i say that because of the time, bill clinton's approval ratings to 74%, newt gingrich resigned, that would be speaker pelosi now, and of course republicans at that time lost seats in the house and senate.

i don't think we will see it that way because i really think that voters are separating, as candidates are, the election from the impeachment hearings. so these poll numbers as a democrat don't concern me but wisconsin is extremely important, i agree. >> shannon: a big brand for either side. leslie and kristen, thank you for sticking around. >> thank you. >> shannon: my next guest facing out of former vice president joe biden at senator sanders over climate change, perusing both federal action if he is elected president. >> we have to force it and then we have to direct federal dollars to make sure that they are affordable so that working people can live in places and not be spending 50% of their income on rent. climate has a number one priority for me. it's a state of emergency. i would declare a state of emergency on day one. >> shannon: talking about affordability and climate change, joining me now, 2010 mike done democratic

presidential candidate, welcome back to "fox news @ night," tom steyer, sir. >> nice to be here. >> shannon: you spent a lot of time and a lot of money talking about impeachment couple which is where we are. you were on the campaign trail, coming out here, back in washington, d.c. here's what the president has said about how this thing is going, how he feels it's going. >> we have no due process, we can't have anything, and yet, it's over. some of the fair press, of which there isn't too much, said this thing is over. >> shannon: tom, last time you and i talked, you said it was important in a single public. important for the democrats or take it public, for the american public to see. both sides are declaring victory. do you think it is moving the needle at all? is there a need to get it to the american people for this vote happens? >> look, i think that what is happening is what should be happening, which is, we are getting people talking on tv and telling the truth. that is what we saw today.

we saw someone who was in the administration, who is not a never-trumper, who is not a deep state person, someone who is a big supporter of mr. trump coming out and saying, yes, there was a quid pro quo and everybody knew it. with the american people do with that information is absolutely critical. but the process of getting the information out directly, so we all can watch it and understand it and take it in is exactly what i have been pushing for because what i believe in is the american people. i believe that we are the correct court here, we are the people who matter. this is exactly what should be happening as far as i'm concerned. >> shannon: oppressive or sondland, to be clear, said that there was no conditions between these conditions on ukraine. he said it was his presumption. there is great they can watch, we can watch and see what will

happen, what has happened, and e decisions before the votes go down. listen, you have critics out there that you may have an unfair advantage on this a debate stage. max burns says, "it's a perverse state of affairs in the democratic party when a public servant of the policy chops as julian castro misses the debates threshold but billionaire vanity candidate tom steyer can hi its way onto the stage." how do you respond? >> i think there is a very serious question here for everybody running to be the democratic candidate, and that is this: do you have something to say that is true and deferential and important? and do people trust you to be the messenger to make that happen in the real world? i think that is the case for every single person who is running to be the democratic candidate. i think is true for me, julian castro, and so as a result, that is the question. i've spent a decade putting together coalitions of ordinary

american citizens to take on unchecked corporate power. i have a history of taking them on. we have a history together of beating them. and so i have actually, as an outsider, good working successfully in the public arena for a decade, and in fact, i felt one of the largest grassroots organizations in the united states that that the largest youth voter mobilization in american history last year. >> shannon: let me ask you this, though. there are a lot of folks who look at what you have done, look at the work, they look at this field, and there are whispers that there are concerns there is not a candidate currently standing on the stage strong enough to beat the president. a fellow billionaire of years, michael bloomberg, getting in, former massachusetts governor deval patrick, they both are starting to formalize some things. what does that say to you as someone who is currently in the field and is making the argument that you are the one who can beat president trump? >> i think two things. you are right, that it means

this raises wide open. that is absolutely true. the other thing that is true, i spent 30 years building an international business, a successful, big international business. i believe whoever the democratic candidate is is going to have to go toe-to-toe with mr. trump or whoever the republican candidate is, on the economy. >> shannon: do you have any expectation it wouldn't be president trump? >> if he gets impeached, and thrown out of office, i don't think he'll be the candidate. >> shannon: okay. >> whoever it is, we will have to show that we know how to produce growth, we know how to produce prosperity, we are competent, successful stewards of the american economy. that is something that i spent three decades doing. i have a completely different resume and a completely different understanding about than any other democrat on the stage. i think i can go toe-to-toe on the economy with mr. trump. i feel very comfortable critiquing and taking him down on his economic policies, with

which i dramatically disagree and which i think you're very bad for the american people. >> shannon: you both a very successful businessman. a very interesting conversation. we'll see you on the campaign trail. good to see you. >> thank you so much for having me. it's a treat to talk to you. >> shannon: after the break, more like coverage from atlanta and other headlines that may have gotten buried today, including breaking news on just a small at , the alleged hate crim, coax. you don't want to miss that

>> shannon: are you at home tuning in or out after second day of house democrats marathon impeachment hearings? this week, week two, new polling. chief breaking news correspondent trace gallagher with more. >> good evening, shannon. these polls are good news for the president on two fronts, the impeachment inquiry and the 2020 presidential race. let's begin with impeachment. the marquette university law school poll was conducted through sunday, so it only includes the opening week of the

impeachment hearings. but the numbers are significant. just 40% of registered wisconsin voters now believe president trump should be impeached and removed from office. 53% disagree. back in october, 44% said the president should be impeached and removed. 51% disagreed. and it's notable that more independents or no standing behind the president. moving onto the head-to-head 2820 matchups in wisconsin, president trump leads former president biden 47% to 44%. that is a big swing because in august, biden led 51-42%. mr. trump also leads senator bernie sanders 48-45, and leads to senator elizabeth warren 48-43. and the president has a big lead over south bend mayor pete buttigieg, 47-39. the director of the marquette poll says one of the big takeaways is that whether it's impeachment or voter preference,

republicans are showing more support for trump and democrats are a bit less opposed to the president. then there is the new npr-pbs-marist poll which shows that when it comes to impeachment, the overwhelming majority of americans across both parties say nothing that here in the impeachment hearings will change their mind. 65% say they can't imagine hearing anything that changes their mind. only 30% say it's possible that testimony could dissuade them. in fact, the hearings appear to be pardoning american views with 86% of democrats saying they are more likely to support impeachment. 83% of republicans are less likely to support impeachment. overall, when asked if the president should be impeached, americans are split right down the middle. shannon? >> shannon: trace gallagher from l.a., thank you. between impeachment and the democratic debate, you might have missed a lot of other news on a day which would have been

big news. leland vittert has been tracking it all. >> a few things happen. the president headed to austin, texas, for the opening of a new apple computer plant. he got a tour from ceo tim cook, who you may remember the president once referred to as "tim apple." >> what would you say about our economy? >> we have the strongest econo economy. >> strongest in the world. the speaker they got over the "tim apple"-tim cook thing. tariffs on china took center stage, whether he would grant a waiver for apple products made in china. prince andrew asked the queen if he could step back from public duties for the foreseeable future. "i continue to unequivocally regret my ill judged association with jeffrey epstein." his suicide is left many unanswered questions in a deeply supplies with everyone who has been effective and want some form of closure." this comes after an interview

with prince andrew that left many saying there were a lot more questions than answers about the princes relationship with the disgraced pedophil pedophile. >> i was doing a number of different things while i was there. >> you are staying at the house of a convicted sex offender. >> it was a convenient place to stay. >> prince andrew says the queen has agreed to his request for aid to chicago, jussie smollett's counter suing the city of chicago in response to a suit for the city want city wanting reimbursement for the cost of investigating the actor was attacked. a wrongful suit engaged by the counter defendant, meaning the city of chicago. he is continues to suffer substantial economic damages including extreme emotional distress. he already paid the city ten grand and his lawyers say that is enough. shannon, the city says, see you in court. the charges against jussie smollett for allegedly filing those falls police reports were

dropped. >> shannon: discovery could be interesting in that case. we will stay on it. leland, thank you. today's winners and losers from our panel debates right after this break. when we started our business

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>> shannon: looking life at this bedroom in atlanta. post debate, the fifth one, the next one coming up, the candidates making their final arguments, as is peter doocy and ellison barber. we will continue to check back in. let's talk about the dates debates winners and losers, bringing civil rights at attorney, and writer for the "washington examiner." good to have you with us tonight right i want to start with you, robert. who do you think had a good night? speak of the people who had really break out moments, cory booker, for the first time, kind of that urgency. remember, the last quarter, he had that fund-raising push to keep his campaign alive, understanding he is not qualified for the december debate.

he really sailed on issues particularly with the african-american community, other people did not draw -- did not firmly draw with positioning was. not to mention the housing issue. i think tom steyer's answer to homelessness and housing was in resetting housing project for poor people, did not help. cory booker had a nuanced plan. kamala harris, they did outstanding in the debate. joe biden did well by just holding firm. in the lead, he did not do anything to put himself back. there were no big faux pas', blunders. i think all of them had been a good nights. >> shannon: interesting that mere that mayor pete buttigieg, who's had a lot of questions about why he's not building minority support, doesn't poll well, does not do with that community come i thought he had an interesting answer, saying, i can ever understand the discrimination at another community has gone through but in all my experience as a gay man, people who do not share my attributes brought with me and i can fight with other people even

if i'm not a part of the community. at that there was an interesting take because he's had some problems with the race issue. >> as a resident atlantean, who went to school there, who worked for a civil rights organization, the studios right there in the west end, that answer was a nonstarter. that may be the worst possible answer for somebody who is running behind with black voters. nobody wants to hear, hate, we as an upper-class rich rhodes scholar white guy from the midwu as a poor african-american is going through because i come on sexual orientation is outside of what other people may think it should be. i think what he should have done is doubled down on what his douglass plan is for the black community. what is he going to do to reduce mass incarceration. what is his plan to restore voting rights and to stop voter suppression? what is his plan, he did not go into that and rather he did the emotional appeal, which, when

you're already behind with black voters, he did nothing to improve his position. >> shannon: who do you think had good and bad nights? >> i agree with joe biden, a good night. about as crisp as he has been in these debates. he had a good line about letting the justice department to is based on the evidence who they are going to prosecute. he just maintained his position, nobody really laid a glove on him. he showed that he is somebody that just sticks around. he will not go away. he did pretty well. i thought that even though she actually was a sort of physically shaky at first, if you watched her head, i thought that amy klobuchar did a very good job. she's unfortunately, for her, sort of blocked and that more moderate lien by biden but she held her on pretty well. on the other hand, i did not think that elizabeth warren did very well at all. in fact -- >> shannon: she got a lot of

attention off the top. every other question seems like it was going to her. >> she looked evasive. that has been the knock on her, for weeks and weeks, she was evasive on how to pay for stuff. now they asked her a question that again, she absolutely would not answer about the louisiana governor being pro-life, and they said, is there room for him and the democratic party? she would not answer the question. that sort of adds to the idea that she is evasive, that you can't necessarily trust her. >> shannon: we are potentially getting some new entrants with former massachusetts governor deval patrick, maybe even mrs. clinton, former secretary and first lady, the speculation continues. in the meantime, this is what we have for tonight. thank you for your input and analysis, robert and quin, good to see you. stick around, we have more questions.

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>> shannon: lightning right now on hunter biden. robert and quin are with us. although we spent the entire commercial break talking about popeye's chicken sandwich. let's talk about a couple of things. and henry reported early about the new investigations, possibly

ramping up with respect to be 21. also the news today that he has establish paternity for a woman in arkansas sunk, something thae had denied. what are we to make of all of these things swirling around him, robert? >> it is the most insignificant story in the media. >> shannon: paternity or ukraine? >> all of it. the ukraine stuff happened in 2016, the republicans have the control of the house of representatives and for several years thereafter. if they wanted to investigate hunter biden, they could have had hearings and if they wanted to impeach joe biden, they could have done it then and i did not become an issue until now. regarding paternity, i don't care with a former vice president's second son is doing with his free time. that does not reflect on his father and a type of way. that is not reflect on any national security issues or policy agenda issues. as an insignificant story to most americans. >> shannon: this is what a tweet says. "hunter told "the new yorker" he

had never been with the woman." should we care, quin? >> i don't think we should care about the woman in arkansas. other than hoping that she is able to face her -- raise her child well. the burisma stuff will actually make a difference, especially to trump supporter's, or people that are inclined to be trump supporter because they will say, see, trump was right to want to go after the bidens. it might not actually be an argument that holds water but it will definitely help him sell his case that he was going after real corruption. >> shannon: interesting thing that we have seen, of course his name has come up in these public impeachment hearings, last week and this week, and congresswoman alicia vona, and a lot of attention out of new york, 1 of the younger members, and her third term, she has asked of each witness whose come before them, do you think there was at least an appearance issue with hunter's presence on the board given his background, qualifications, education for this position? every one of the witnesses have

said, yes, at least the appearance of a conflict. >> republicans are in charge of the senate right now. they can hold hearings tomorrow if they want to bring in hunter biden and investigate him. they have not because they know it's a nonstarter issue. you talk to regular voters, they would like to see rudy giuliani testify. they would like to see the white house officials who have refused to enter their subpoenas show up from the impeachment trial. where's pompeo? where is perry? all the people on the call and who have germane information on the impeachment hearing going forward right now and not on a conspiracy theory from three years ago. >> shannon: it will turn into a legal proceeding, due process and all those things kick in, and more equal playing field, the white house would argue about some of these issues, almost out of time, click final comment. >> quick final comment, absolutely what hunter biden did was sleazy. is it make it against the law and it doesn't give the president the right to go ask a foreign country to sick its legal system on an american

citizen. >> shannon: we will continue to update. we will go up for popeye sandwiches. i or they open this late? it's happening. thank you guys. most watched, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us. good night from washington, or good evening, i am shannon bream. get a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again.

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