eastern. back at work in two hours. >> it was great having you. >> i will be back here tomorrow. neil: investigating the investigators a former fbi lawyer said to be under, investigation for altering documents tied to the surveillance of a trump campaign aide. it comes as we await the release of the report on the origins of the russia probe itself. good morning, i am neil cavuto. you are watching cavuto live. mark meredith, where the president says the report will be the story. >> reporter: donald trump says

he is eager to see what the inspector general has to say about the report you were talking about. michael horowitz says the report will come back in december, december 9th, a few days before hearing in the senate judiciary committee. he is eager to see what the report is because horowitz may have found evidence in fbi lawyer altered documents tied to the decision to launch surveillance of carter page, former trump campaign it. this comes as a separate investigation led by a us attorney remains ongoing, potential criminal misconduct by defense department officials, the president weighed in on both investigations on friday on "fox and friends". >> they were spying on my campaign and it went to the top and everybody knows it and we are going to find out. you have bull door him who is supposed to be the toughest. i never met him, never spoke to him but he is supposed to be the smartest and the best and he works for william barr who is a

great attorney general. >> carter page, the former trump campaign aide who was wiretapped on friday said he too is eager to see what the investigations uncovered. >> the main reason they are doing it is -- trump and the entire trump campaign and it was a dark cloud hanging over the campaign. >> we should mention right now we are watching develop and out of iraq where mike pence and the second lady have made an unannounced visit to meet with us troops at thanksgiving, they had a chance to meet those troops and offer a thanksgiving deal to meet with commanders on the ground and iraqi officials happening right now. heather: the fbi is supposed to fight lawbreakers, not break the rules so how does this happen? the deputy assistant director, too easy to know what happened, documents that might have been

compromised and this individual has left the fbi but what are the rules in this? >> it is pretty basic in the fbi's culture, we are known for telling the truth and the evidence that we supply, that is great. if it convicts somebody that is great. it is important restoring what fbi agents do because trust is our stock in trade. if we can't be trusted we can't do our job. what will come out of the report will tell what happened. we weren't accountable like we should have been, the inspector general in the administration says that. >> a quick read of this, mistakes were made in the fbi's handling of documents. and the end it didn't undermine the premise of the

investigation, how would they quickly know that? >> they know what probable cause was and to get a warrant, to me that's not the point. it doesn't matter if it was positive or not. it matters, did you tell the truth and if you can't depend, the department of justice can't depend on the honesty of an fbi agent, that is monumentally important and the fbi needs to be held accountable for it. i think they will be. >> the fbi agent in question was known to have a history of anti-trump remarks and email and that begins to generate a paranoia, perfectly justified that he was not an unbiased arbiter. >> that is true. you saw the same with the text messages from stzrok and page that there was a bias. the director shouldn't tolerate

that. the fbi, an independent fact-finding agency, doesn't matter what political party you are in or anything like that. what are the fact? like the old dragnet thing, tell me the facts and when they do it right things turn out right and when they don't, things don't go well. neil: through the impeachment process, a different interpretation, when all is said and done, the genesis of what got this investigation started, we will find out december 9th with a separate report on that, the mueller probe itself and the ukraine probe, whether it ultimately changes anyone's mind, you are just dragnet here but i am wondering where does this go? >> ultimately where it is going to go, they will impeach the

president. they have gone too far down that path. i watched all the hearings, a lot of hearsay, very little evidence, i don't see evidence. in iran contra i know how these things go. it is not evidence of a crime. maybe style wasn't good but nothing for impeachment but that doesn't matter. truth doesn't matter to the house of representatives, just who has the most votes and that is where it is going to go, who has the vote to impeach and they have them. heather: thank you for taking the time. i appreciate it. in the meantime the focus on impeachment in the house in the house, nancy pelosi said a vote for the trade deal with mexico and canada won't happen this year. voters want a clean house come next year. republican strategist john thomas, and market analyst and our very own susan lee. you have been talking a lot

about this. any delay on things investors care about is not greeted generally favorably. >> the markets have priced it in. canada and mexico, a trade deal signed by houses of congress that have been delayed because of the impeachment inquiry, they won't renegotiate. i don't think mexico will be the same. where are we at the point it looks like the swamp hasn't been drained and the barricades putting up large and high. heather: what do you think? >> big and small businesses by large approve the president but may not be his style but progrowth agenda and this impeachment is holding the agenda, i would caution democrats because when they won control of the house of representatives they didn't campaign on impeach a president, they campaigned on fixing healthcare, getting it done. during the impeachment process nothing gets done. heather: that is pretty much -

>> fun to bash business. >> i love when conservatives try to give us advice when we become like a drum in 2018. nancy pelosi knows how to cook and -- walk and chew gum. the house has passed 400 pieces of legislation including things we promised the american people we would do in the midterm. it may not come when you want it but it will be there right on time. heather: you don't acknowledge impeachment has gotten in the way? >> now, what has gone in the way the noise the gop has turned up to drown out the realities, made it seem as if the only thing we have done is impeachment. heather: republicans were holding up constructive dialogue and getting things done? >> i can't speak to then. i can tell you about now.

400 bills the gop failed the american people on. that is why i feel good about where things are. just because votes don't come when republicans want to them to doesn't mean they won't come. heather: but the average american - >> economic pain we experience in this economy you have to blame the president. wasn't democrats the put farmers in this position with the trade deal it was this president. when you talk about the economic pain people are feeling you have to put it at the feet of the president. we 20 i don't think your feeling too much -- >> based on that logic you have to turn around, give donald trump credit for what is going on in the economy, you can't have it both ways. he will get the blame related -- >> i know people are suffering. >> you haven't been watching. you only know people -- >> a lot of people have struggled. >> 100% of the people in

prosperity, that is impossible. when you look at the majority of americans are doing much better now than four years ago. >> the longest bull market in history, longest economic expansion the us has ever seen. >> let remind you of a few things. people are watching 2 or 3 jobs, forget about trying to make ends meet, they are hoping they meet. neil: if this were happening under barack obama -- >> no, no. you did not give barack obama credit -- heather: no, no, no. >> ukraine -- heather: you can't argue any recovery under any president but you have to look at this and across the spectrum whether you like donald trump or not, this is pretty historic.

>> you will not -- the president his marbles when he has done well. it there is an increase of population. and -- >> one of the notions raised in the swing states, democrats will not make the mistake they did four years ago. it is not benefited all of them. the impact has been less than we thought. he could turn on the president. >> low unemployment numbers with african-americans, with all-americans, that is undeniable. the problem has not been solved and the president is taking a gamble. >> why isn't the president benefiting -- what is it?

>> the media cycle, that is why at a mission and nancy pelosi are driving this. if they can keep distraction from the economic issue -- heather: you cover the market really well. they love money money money and don't care who is in the white house a lot of they are making money. making a lot of money under this president, pass on impeachment if they could, making a lot of money under bill clinton, wanted to pass on impeachment if they could, that is the backdrop for this. >> you have to remember when they were trying to impeach bill clinton markets rallied 30% in months afterwards. the markets don't like this impeachment inquiry. it was about money, 40% since the day donald trump start into office, they are trying to ride

this. >> what we have seen in this economy, a group of people in this country benefited tremendously. working-class people in swing states -- >> tell that to nancy pelosi. heather: be fair and balanced here, think about every single demographic group with record low unemployment, you would herald it as a godsend any under other president. >> here's what i will tell you. unemployment is low does not mean -- heather: do the markets - >> listen to me. it is undeniable, not to gang up on and one. >> "outnumbered". the market sees what is going

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>> despite worries about trade and impeachment, will shoppers save the holidays and the president of the united states? bill simon back with us. always a pleasure. >> good morning. heather: what is your sense of consumers? walmart has put out a telegraph, strong sales this holiday season and going into next year the consumer is buoyant. do you see that is the case?

>> the best shape they have been in intent or plus years, things consumers look at, unemployment is at record lows, inflation is stable and low. those are the things that drive consumer sentiment. headed into this black friday which is an exciting time in the retail world. neil: heather: what are black friday has the other door it used to that things might and on the internet and online it is not a single day event anymore, not something that necessarily hanging your retail hat on. it is spread out. >> probably true. it is a huge weekend and into cybermonday it is a different proposition.

walmart put up big numbers. target put up monster numbers. it is the middle of the economy, from low middle to high middle with those retailers, they did well, it is a terrific season. neil: there are always outliers from home depot, more what it was telegraphing and forecast down the road, lots in walmart and target, by in large most are optimistic, what could get in the way of that? >> the political noise largely has been ignored for the time being and if there is something that happens the changes that scenario, when people like the president like the president still and nothing will change

that. we never had a full employment recession in this country. for me the things the change that going forward into next year, the job situation changes and recession starts to look inevitable. than the consumer gets worried. heather: it is about the job. if the job environment looks strong everything goes from there and the job environment is very strong. i wonder whether impeachment, the uncertainty around that plays any part. i don't see it myself or even investors talking much about it. they are more focused on trade, more focused on may be a government shutdown if one were to happen but none of this. >> i agree with you. a couple things came out of the walmart and target releases, it came this last week. the first is they believe the

consumer is strong and will be stronger, they wouldn't have raised their guidance. the second is all the noise floating around about tariffs from the consumer perspective hasn't seemed to pad out either. hardly a whisper about anything tariff related in any earnings releases. neil: i don't know if you were the inspiration behind this, one of the more popular sections of walmart is the as seen on tv i'll. a lot of the items promoted on television and extremely popular. >> i put my foot on the gas pedal quite a bit. walmart is figuring out what the consumer wants and a great price. when you do that, wonderful things happen. it is the envy of retail. neil: we will see what happens.

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heather: neil: the president tweeting adam schiff will be compelled to testify should the democrats decide despite the fact conversations were totally appropriate to go forward with the impeachment, polls and turn strongly against impeachment. let's get a read on that from republican senator tim scott. happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving to you and your viewers. neil: what do you think of what the president just tweeted out? >> one thing is crystal clear what we heard from the house, no facts, no evidence, nothing that would lead to impeachment.

this is the place where i think all americans want to know, where is the fact pattern that leads to a conclusion of impeachment? we heard was contradictory conclusions from vindman and williams, inconsistencies from sondland, he says there was a quid pro quo but when he talked about the president's own words to him, he said no quid pro quo. i am not confused, i am more clear that there is no way in the world the senate can act and convict the president of impeachment because he seems to be innocent. neil: the president was on "fox and friends" and said he would welcome a trial in the senate. that would mean the house would have to vote to impeach. would get to that? will get the you guys in the senate? >> i will be shocked if it doesn't. there is one conclusion that was

drawn before the impeachment process began. congressman green set really well, we must impeach the president, we should impeach the president or he will win reelection. that was the basis of the process. it is the same way today, there is no way the senate takes of this impeachment trial and it comes to a verdict that convict the president of impeachment based on the testimonies we paid attention to over the last several days. neil: a lot of this can be mindnumbing glee when you step back from it. one of the things that has come to light that they are investigating is former fbi lawyer who might have compromised a document, and others that could have been involved, wondering about the quick read we are getting for many that even if that were the case it did not undermine the premise of the investigation. how do they know that and how

can anyone leave to that conclusion? >> people are leaping all over the place without leaping to a place where solid ground is bunny their feet. that is part of the challenge. they have not established the fact pattern that leads to a conclusion. what they have done is taken second or third hand information and tried to undermine the presidency, not just donald trump but called into question a lot of the normal practices. having conversations with foreign leaders. that is the question behind the next president and every succeeding president. we brought all of that to the surface so we will have more information through us attorney general william barr's actions and the direction he is taking the investigation there is more to come. the bombshells but i read about have not been bombshells. the bombshells we will read

about will be tectonic shifts in the political landscape for the future of this country. i'm looking forward to seeing -- neil: what if they are not? i know the president said as much, what they are coming out his historic, this was spying on my campaign, something that has never been done, and overthrow attempt of the presidency, what if, when all is said and done in the inspector general comes out with all of that, that it didn't necessarily disrupt the premise of the investigation, people will interpret it their own way but if that is the final take with that trouble you? >> i would be shocked and surprised. i don't think it takes 300-400 pages to come to that simple conclusion. therefore, based not only on the word count but based on the information i have heard that should be in the report i am very confident that what we will

be reading about at least in objective news sources is how absolutely challenging the fisa process and everything that led up to where we are, how suspect it was. that is challenging. challenging we spend so much time not working on lowering drug prices for the american people, not working on passing the national defense bill, not working on the us mca. instead they spent months trying to find a way to make sure donald trump cannot be reelected. they have no doubt the senate will not be able to come to a verdict against the president because they presented no information as evidence that leads to that conclusion. what they are trying to do is have a political conversation about eliminating the president by this process instead of spending time working on the priorities of our great country,

the us mca or the national defense reauthorization. there are a lot of things in the house that have a supermajority that nancy pelosi won't let come to the floor. neil: a democratic lawmaker on reading that. we work hard to make you happy. with the right combination of people and technology, so you can work with us the way you want. now with zero commissions on online stock, etf and options trades. part of our mission to make investing more accessible for all. and we're the only firm with a satisfaction guarantee. which is why our zero is better. schwab. a modern approach to wealth management.

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move that hillary clinton - 1000 alienating other party members. do you agree with that? >> we have 100 million people who didn't vote in 2016 and if people don't get the agenda that delivers healthcare and affordable housing get things out of debt and makes higher education. neil: that was such an overwhelming popular edict, donald trump would be running scared we are running way behind in the polls and in battleground states he is doing better than prominent names. why do you think that is? >> people don't trust either political party. neil: they seem to trust him more. do you agree with that? >> yes and no. they are not voting. >> former green party presidential candidate jill stein saying democrats need to double down on being more progressive and the fact that she -- they are looking for

moderate alternatives, what does it say about a wasted time in the democratic party, they should be looking at alternatives to the established parties including republicans and including democrats. we are following that closely and how all this is sorting out, ellison barber in des moines, iowa, looking at the issue that has been center focused about joe biden and these moderate alternatives to this progressive view. >> this is one of 3 stops we expect joe biden to make in iowa today, we saw him make a number of campaign stop since the debate in atlanta. immigration activists confronted the former vice president over the obama administration, biden said he would not stop all deportation, protesters were not

happy with that answer, biden told them eventually to vote for trump. he sat down for an interview and talked about wednesday graham's push for documents, the latest to biden and his communication with ukrainian officials. >> i am disappointed and angered. he knows me. he knows my son. he knows there is nothing to this. trump is holding power over him that even ukrainians would not yield to. to investigate biden, nothing to investigate about biden or his son. lindsay, i guess, i am embarrassed by what you are doing, for you. my lord. >> biden is not the only one making campaign news. new york city mayor michael bloomberg filed federal papers to run for president earlier this week.

also spending $31 million on one week of tv ads. bernie sanders, another front runner in the race is disgusted by calling the ad the latest example of a rigged political system. this definitely shakes up the race. two of the main frontrunners in this race, warren and sanders, they made wealth inequality of keith full point in their campaign. it seems like not a lot of democratic candidates are worried about bloomberg injuring the race. he could cause a lot of waste, not only in terms of battling the more progressive people but threatening joe biden in that moderate lane. neil: that put you in the middle of a real hurricane or political hurricane. in the meantime, the democratic party is so far left, he is leaving leaving the party and not so keen on the republicans either.

that is why pennsylvania state senator is an independent. good to have you, thanks. what was it about democrats that had you saying as a democrat i don't want to be a democrat? >> i don't see it is leaving the democratic party or embracing the republican party. i am moving to become an independent, trying to change the toxic conversation we have going on here in the commonwealth of pennsylvania and across the country. i choose the politics of we over the politics of us versus them. i choose people over political parties. it was how i was raised, find common ground, build bipartisan coalitions. the purest politicians on the republican side of the island on the democratic side are pushing that conversation out. i want to get things done for the people of northeastern pennsylvania who i represent.

that is getting harder and harder to do because of the toxic conversation. the purest ideologies winning out over building common ground and common purpose. neil: your district went for donald trump last go around. >> correct and we voted for barack obama. neil: do you feel you are on a tight rope that could backfire? some democrats were surprised, the republicans were leery. how have you been responding? >> the response has been positive particularly for my districts in northeastern pennsylvania. on the right the driver let me know i was 100% right. people should choose the candidate, not the party. neil: i am sorry. this -- >> to win the war on terrorism -- neil: but sir, the issue here.

>> and combat climate change. these are big issues. neil: they are not being addressed by either party. they are not being addressed by either party. tall seed gab urge -- tulsi gabbard said it was not the party of the people. accused kamala harris of trafficking and lies and smears and innuendo and attacked pete buttigieg as well. do you think there is a battle going on for the democrats? >> no question about that. we saw it a few years ago in the republican party with the rise of the tea party, the rise of this purest agenda. i'm the father of four beautiful daughters who are wonderfully smart young girls. i will never be 100% right. politicians trying to drive an agenda that you have to be 100% pure, put it in other terms, you

have the ceo of walmart on it. of a business sold to one customer and only listened to one consumer they would go bankrupt. the parties have to listen to the broader tens, the broader electorate. both parties are not doing that which is why i decided to become an independent. neil: thank you, good having you on. hong kong holding its first elections and protests began, relatively low-level elections but they are getting international attention. tell you why after this. to free, it only becomes more entangled. unaware that an exhilarating escape is just within reach. defy the laws of human nature. at the season of audi sales event.

neil: hong kong is getting ready to hold city council elections this weekend. this supports the protesters there. >> an eerie calm salon hong kong

ahead of the elections. that is in stark contrast to the violence we were we ensuring -- witnessing at the hong kong polytechnic university. the only way to end this kind of unrest is for voters to back establishment candidates. listen here. >> stability and order, that is the key message. >> the message to support the social government. >> in hong kong. >> as campaigning continued throughout the day, pro-democracy activists were betting a turnout would help them.

>> we would have a better turnout and four years ago with solidarity and unity, stand with hong kong. and stand with protesters. >> what they don't know is whether donald trump stands with them as he prevaricate on whether or not to sign the human rights and democracy act and we want to tell you this fascinating video we got a hold of by reuters today. it shows chinese army troops in hong kong practicing riot drills. any army general will tell you any good army rehearses for every scenario but those pictures will be a chilling site for pro-democracy activists.

neil: especially when they disavow any notion in the first place. you have been doing great reporting, be safe, jonathan hunt in hong kong. forget all the division in washington at thanksgiving dinner. it is all about navigating the divide around your dining room table. we have some tips to help you survive your family. if you see wires down,

treat them all as if they are hot and energized. stay away from any downed wire, call 911 and call pg&e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe.

>> this is what has to happen, fixing this. >> we are not doing that anymore, we are going to stay focused, it will work out. neil: group hug. joining me, bar rescue's host, good to have you. that skill set comes in handy when needed going into turkey day and political arguments always ensue. what do you tell them to do? >> i was on your show when broadcasting live from las vegas just before the presidential election and that is a result of that appearance. my family has been fractious at

thanksgiving ever since. neil: blame me! we have our differences, but, that is hard for a lot of families. how do you do it? >> we are together, for 5 or 6 hours. people start to drink. what about a politics free zone for thanksgiving? talk about family things, houses, kids, the new cars they bought, the vacation they are taking. when we get into political arguments how about all the things we don't talk about? the things we used to talk about as families. if we could create a political free zone the family would come together, learn more about each other's lives, that is a positive plus and as the evening goes on we won't get into those heated arguments that could run too long or too loud.

leland: neil: do you have will you establish before everyone gets together? it would be great to have free will -- everyone together but we will not talk politics, whether they are conservatives or liberal, don't want to talk about politics. >> i could understand that. there is a sitting for everything. it is reasonable to say for the next 2 or 3 hours let's not talk about politics. anybody who objects to that when they do start talking politics that is the one who will take a too far. i would shut that person down sooner than one who is more agreeable to it. neil: you have a great sense of humor that could get you out of a lot of predicaments. if you make light of it or make light of your self and your own views generally that will cut the tension but some people are not big on sense of humor. >> let us not be political and

do this in a collective way. let's pull each other together. the problem with the impeachment hearings, it isn't cut one way or the other. it turns out to be presumption. in america, one is presumed innocent, not presumed guilty. it is very easy - neil: we can argue this - you have some quick cocktail recipes. what is your favorite? >> my favorite is the sparkling pumpkin pineapple which was the favorite we have been working on. i have my mix already line. and two ounces of the piña colada mix, a little bit of rum, shaken up, pop it with some whipped cream, and it is an amazing thanksgiving drink.

neil: politics, you don't even know how to spell it at that point. do any of you remember this guy? he is back for super bowl sunday. he thinks food will still be there. and once you refinance, the savings are automatic. thanks to your va streamline refi benefit, at newday there's no income verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. ...

>> well, house democrats reportedly with be drafting articles of impeachment against president trump as soon as next month. this as not one democrat or republican lawmaker has said that the open hearings have changed his or her mind about the impeachment at all. so what happens next? lucas tomlinson has been following this in our nation's capital. >> neil, democratic lawmakers could send their christmas gift to president trump by the middle of next month, an impeachment vote by the full house of representatives. only two president have been impeached. and he reacted to the latest testimony. >> i think we had a tremendous week with the hoax, the great

hoax, they call it the impeachment hoax and that's worked out incredibly well and we have tremendous support. >> presidential candidates hoping to unseat the president weighed in, cory booker says he wants to be on quote, the right side of history. a former cia director and linked up republican from texas says president should not be the third president impeached. >> an impeachable offense should be compelling, overwhelmingly clear and unambiguous and it's not something to be rushed or taken lightly. i've not heard evidence proving the president committed bribery or extortion. >> the house is going to do what the house is going to do and when they get through as you all know, it comes over here, displaces all the business and we'll be on it until the senators decide it's time to reach a conclusion. it's inconceivable to me that it would be 67 votes to remove the president from office. >> mitch mcconnell also said

that democratic senators running for 2020 like cory booker don't want to spend too much time in washington and away from the campaign trail, neil. neil: yeah, there are about six democratic senators in that pickle, aren't there? and thank you very much. so do things need to be more black and white. so unequivocal you can't argue the point, no matter what party you are, that way with watergate. doug, you're the expert, but i don't see the kind of thing that even someone in the president's party could say, all right, a-ha, this is it. >> and you know, what's surprising in terms of, you know, overstating everything, i saw experts and pundits, this is worse than watergate. i don't follow that at all in terms of-- >> that was about a president writing a million dollar check and stuff on tape payoffs and-- >> i think it's worth noting again the hysterical overreactions and telling my wife today, if you make a

frivolous thing, and they overstate it. neil: in watergate and court, i think it was pretty damning information ironically that started out hardly that way, but as the hearing dragged on more damaging evidence came forward. here, i mean, democrats did put out their best stuff, supposedly their best witnesses and again, it didn't move the needle. and you have to get, you know, the other side to go along. now, they might lock in a majority on their side to get 218 votes, but where does it go? >> it's interesting adam schiff said that watergate was a third rate burglary and minimizing it. to your point, it was all about the development of a coverup and they caught the president saying that he first found out about it on a certain date and then a tape directly contradicted it and all of that. where is it going to answer your

question, i've been a little in the minority and i'm scratching my head wondering whether it may not actually end up in the senate and i'll give you a number of reasons. number one, president trump engaged in his usual reverse psychology, amazing, i want a trial. if he says he wants a trial we're not going to give him a trial, you follow me. neil: he can only get a trial if he's impeached in the house. and what if we censure the guy and oddly enough, republicans wouldn't be for that because they think that the democrats have everplayed-- >> i don't think ne would, but what they're going to do, if they don't go forward and all the experts are saying they will, but if they don't, they're going to use what you call ancillary beneficiary arguments, we don't want to put the public through this even though it's warranted. we don't want to, you heard stymie the work of the senate. and then the subliminal one, we don't want to freeze in their seats every senator running for

president. neil: true. >> and lastly-- >> unless the person you want to get the nominee is joe biden. >> and we're not sure that we want to hunter biden, the whistleblower and adam schiff as witnesses, do we? and if the democrats have the votes and if they have the votes in the house, if they were to pull it back now and not push for it. >> right. neil: that would even be more frantic and problematic for them, wouldn't it? >> now what? i didn't explain it correctly. nancy pelosi is regarded as being a great vote counter, that's no surprise she's speaker of the house of the house of representatives. she counts the votes and they're not there, she's not going to necessarily take it to the floor and doesn't do it. she would have no point, but to go to the ancillary stuff, and we don't want to put the people through this, even though it's fully warranted, cheap shot.

so, again, i don't see her taking it to a vote if it's not there. the vote is apparently, 230-192, they need 218. if you flip 13 or so, she wouldn't have and it's hard to say. this is outside my area of expertise, you've heard say it over and over, those in the heavily pro trump districts may have a tough time after the break and-- >> and saying the latest example of that, right, where people are saying, you know, it's not quite what it was. so it might be petering out. it's too early to tell. the president's argument is, he's leading a strong markets, you want to imperil that, impeach me. >> you didn't like luciani pavorati, but he's a great singer.

if he's accomplishing things, that's the discussion. neil: and thank you for following this very, very closely. a lot more to come about the impeachment hearings keeping lawmaker from passing important bills. let's just say the bills are adding up. we do the math. let's just say you might want to hide. how to cover almost anything. (bert) even a "not-so-handy monster." (johnson) what is going on in here! i can't hear myself think! (grover) what does it look like, sir? i am here to help you with your water heater. (johnson) oh! [sighs defeatedly] (grover) do not worry sir. i also fix cars! [johnson groans] (bert) grover is a monster of many talents! (burke) and we covered it. at farmers, we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. (bert) mmm. ♪ we are farmers. ♪ bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum

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>> all right. we've got a lot of focus on impeachment hearings and the people's house. congress has been pushing off some of the people's business, including not voting on trade deals, ang long-term spending, that kind of thing. this week they did vote on funding the government at least through december 20th. so there is that. the trouble is the national debt is rising about 431 bmdz billion dollars since the impeachment inquiry. my next guest says we need a fix and quick.

senator, when the republicans had the run of all three branches, they could have gone ahead and done just that, but they didn't. so why blame impeachment for this? >> well, there is a-- first you understand the drivers of the long-term debt. we've had anemic economic growth. when the economic growth is low, the taxes are lower. i would argue that the jobs and tax cut bill will increase tax revenue and that's one way, part of the solution to our debt and deficit. neil: but it hasn't. our debt and deficit have gotten worse, right? >> so the amount of tax receipts has actually increased. now, spending has increased even more, that's a separate issue. and part of the reason-- >> that's the reason why we have deficits and debt. you're quite right. it did generate revenue a lot of people didn't count on, particularly and surprisingly for corporations, but you guys have not addressed spending, you

have not addressed this issue and of course, democrats have criticized under barack obama for doing the same thing. i wonder if impeachment is the same thing. that's like me blaming thyroid for weight. i just like the eat. >> on the economic growth side. one thing that would clearly help economic growth would be passing the usmca, the united states mexican canadian trade agreement. that's been held up by impeachment. the sooner that goes into place, providing certainty, the more that we're going to have growth in my state of louisiana and across the nation. so, i would argue there's some pro growth policies that need to be executed. i wrote an editorial for the wall street journal a few years ago, 3.5% solution. if we return towards 3.5% growth in our gdp, then all our debt and deficit takes care of

itself. that said, we may be not going to achieve that, but the closer we get, the better. neil: it's not as if we're not trading with mexico and canada right now. now, that might get if you get this deal through, i understand what you're saying, but do you honestly say it would be significant enough to change the deficit, the cumulative debt needle, that it would turn on that? >> so it's part of the solution. another thing we need is an infrastructure package. there's data out there if we had a significant infrastructure package that there would be a 1% growth in gdp compounded. and so, instead of 2.5 you'd have 3.5 or instead of 1.8, 2.8. that would be compounded and that's another part of a pro growth solution. nice thing about that, by the way, is creates jobs. it creates jobs and continues this kind of record growth in employment for americans of all

categories. so, that's part of the solution as well. neil: do you worry though, senator, i know you have been concerned about the deficit and that of course that it's accumulated. republicans and democratic presidents alike, that most are polled on the subject and americans kind of collectively shrug. we know it's a ticking time bomb, we get that, but that many of your colleagues don't feel the political will to do something because no one seems worried about it? >> i would say that there's actually a connection between addressing the debt and deficit, as well as what touches the average american. one thing clearly driving the debt and deficit is that 10,000 americans a day become eligible for medicare. unless we control health care costs then we're not going to be able to address our debt and deficit. this administration, this congress have been very proactive in terms of addressing high cost of prescription medication. the president just put out his administration, something on price transparency and in that

case, we can decrease the out of pocket exposure for the average american, but also address the debt and deficit. so, neil, i do think there's a little bit of a connection between my personal wallet and our nation's wallet and that is the most critical factor here, the high cost of health care. neil: but you know, no offense to you, senator, or your colleagues, but you haven't addressed health care, you haven't addressed any of the things found an alternative for obamacare, affordable care act. you and many in your party have blasted elizabeth warren and bernie sanders on the medicare for all, and you're right, but you lost the midterms because you didn't have a solution on the health care front and talking about prescription prices coming down and all touche', but it hasn't closed the deal. the fact of the matter is, a lot of americans look at republicans and say you haven't delivered the good. you're good about pitching the health care system, but you haven't done anything to address

it. you say? >> a couple of things, i'm going to totally disagree with you. if you look at polling data, americans are concerned about the cost of health care. ten years ago, mckenzie put out a report, you must have to price transparency, reducing the administrative overhead and reducing the burden of chronic disease. i would argue, i can show you the facts, that the last, two, three years they've pushed through to looking at the electronic health records coming out of the obama administration, pushing to lower the cost of health care through things such as price transparency. medicare advantage premium-- >> it didn't happen, you have the white house, you have the house, you have the senate and when you have full control you didn't deliver what you said you would deliver. >> well, first, medicare advantage premiums are down 34%.

34%. now that is a significant savings to a senior. as regards replacement for obamacare, believe me, i've got the scars from pushing for there through cassidy-collins or graham-cassidy. unless we have full cooperation from the other side there won't be full scale replacement. i think we've effectively shown with medicare advantage down 34% and cost of drugs flattening out and other things to decrease the cost of health care, that's a pretty nice start that we can build upon. neil: well, senator, it's all in the final delivery of the goods for republicans and democrats, to your point. thank you very, very much. hope you have a great thanksgiving. >> you, too, neil. neil: senator cassidy. all right, hobby lobby's president speaking out about those who are bashing billionaires. maybe because he's close to being one himself, he took offense. (employee) enterprise car sales has access to over half a million preowned vehicles, most with tech features like blind spot detection,

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there are good doctors and bad doctors, there's good attorneys, bad attorneys. good retailers, bad retailers, there are billionaires that have a great heart, are very compassionate and those that use their wealth for ill purposes. so just to say that any of any particular category is bad just doesn't make sense. neil: all right. hobby lobby president steve green telling me on fox business network, if you don't get, you should demand, you know that already, that it's wrong for the like of elizabeth warren and bernie sanders to categorize all billionaires of being bad. is he right? it's become a trend and michael bloomberg a billionaire, entered the race because that talk is hurting democrats, not helping. let's get to it, dan what do you think? >> i think he's wrong to be-- well, i think elizabeth warren is wrong and bernie sanders to

be vilifying billionaires. it's a ridiculous thing, neil. you know, the economy needs that type of job creation and the things that billionaires do. when you talk about this wealth tax that's coming out right now, it's a cumulative tax. it's being taxed on the same assets every single year over and over. even when elizabeth warren talks about it's only two cents, you know, that 2%. if you take that 2% over a 25-year period, that will reduce the wealth by 40% of billionaires. neil: the two cent thing for someone like jeff bezos would be $7 billion a year. 7 billion, almost as much as-- >> and those assets have already been accumulated on income that was taxed already, neil. so it's just layers and layers of tax. neil: that's the accountant in you talking.

yes. neil: and obviously joe biden and some of the more moderate candidates don't subscribe to that and more are speaking out now. whatever your views, do you think it's hurting the party. it's looking like tax, taxes tax. >> i think we need to be careful as a party to layout-- fine if we have individual positions, but can't stroke a broad brush and say the entire party. we've couched ourselves as big tent party. we have to act accordingly. i believe the wealthy, the neil cavutos of the year need to pay their fair share. [laughter] >> i believe they should pay their fair share. neil: what is fair share to you. >> when warren buffett said he paid less taxes than his assistance, that's-- >> is a fair share, the top rate right now, 37%, reduced from

39%. and whatever you make is a fair share? >> you're going to get various opinions listening to the party. that's the diversity of our party. neil: 45%? >> i don't know what-- >> joe biden wanted 39.6 for starters. >> i think that republicans and democrats could find some common ground. i will tell you when we get to a general election position, i think we have to be one band, one sound or we will be divided and i think that would be problematic. neil: fairly or not. one band, one sound that is portrayed, they just want to raise taxes and they're going up. >> they try to make it-- >> whether it's joe biden, moderate or elizabeth warren, that taxes will go up and that's what republicans are pounding and what donald trump is warning about. >> true, with democrats in the primary there isn't a penalty for bashing the wealth in a democratic primary. but-- >> even their biggest

luminaries, they idolize for good reason, john kennedy, steeped to wealth, would be billionaires today. and i would argue that the democratic party shifted left. i think that elizabeth warren was given a gift with a potential bloomberg entry, she needed a villain in this primary. she want today run against big banks and wall street and now she's got a fat cat amongst her ranks? >> you think it's divided the-- >> i don't think so. most people agree if you want better roads i'm okay with paying a little more. if you want better schools for your children, i'm okay paying a little more. neil: as long as i don't have to pay for it. >> those things are important for any environment to survive. neil: but bernie sanders doesn't do that. at least he has the honesty to say, i just can't stick this on the super wealthy, i'm going to raise your taxes, middle class, you're getting more out of it than you're paying, but at least

saying those it. >> that's the problem in california we just increase our gas taxes. i can afford it, i don't want to, it hurts the people who can afford it the least, the problem with tax increases. >> we went through this in south carolina. we're one of the states in the country that has not increased our gas tax until i was one years old. i'm 34. >> and-- . >> now, i don't hear one complaint about raising the gas tax and we're not at the national average, why? as a result we have better roads and infrastructure and health care-- >> the trump economy. >> no, no, infrastructure, health care, schools, no one will be mad about-- >> dan, what do you think? >> the problem with these things, the taxes start off with the best intentions, but it doesn't go in that direction. look, when the income tax started back in 1913, you remember, neil? >> absolutely, i covered it. >> that tax was meant to be a tax on the wealthy. next thing you know, everybody is paying income tax from that point on.

when you start off, we need these taxes to pay for medicare for all and free college and all of these other programs, eventually everyone is going to have to kick in. so, to me, this is just the tip of the iceberg. what vilified the billionaires, let's say we're going to have to have the rich pay for that stuff and it doesn't work out. neil: if you treat me out to dinner, i'm going to order two appetizers, lots of desserts because i'm not saying, right. >> that's not your normal meal? [laughter] >> here is the bigger problem let's say we'll keep it just to the wealthy. you're disincentivized the wealthy for ininvesting their capital. >> why do you get so mad people making more peaking more. >> because we want the-- >> why are you against curbing spending. as long as it's not your money-- >> let me tell you what i'm for. i'm for the wealthiest paying a bit more so we can lift people up this way.

if we can do this, i believe we can do this and meet somewhere and improved the middle class and get back to the place where we have a real middle class and working poor people-- >> i have news for you, the government, the government wastes our money. we have more revenue than ever coming in and we keep spending more. neil: all right, all right. >> we're going to tax more and spend more. >> you hate the government and you don't want the wealthiest people in the world to-- >> well paying more, you pay the bill. you take care of the bill, anything you want, i'm all for it. >> (laughter) >> and finally, you know, i don't know if you can smell this at home, of course you can't, but we've got rob here and he's cooking up a storm for us. we're not going to share this with antoine because frankly he's been rude. [laughter] >> i've already told rob i'm

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>> well, the pickup truck is doing exactly what it was made not to do, shattering. you might have seen this once or twice, i can't get enough myself. and susan lee on the mishap. what the company has been doing since. embarrassing, viral, social media loves it and it was everywhere. now, this was for the cost around what, 49,000 for the

truck and instead cost tesla stock 60 billion dollar in one day as investigators investors dumped the stock on the back of this mishap and elon musk dropping 8 billion. and this it was supposed to be bullet-proof against a .9 millimeter. it was come on to display the fortitude of this truck. no, the glass was not supposed to shatter like that, but it did and here is a picture if you can bring it up elon musk's surprise and his reaction says it all. >> you're fired. >> shattered glass. on twitter, the same steel ball and same window several times before the events and it didn't scratch the glass, exclamation point. this was supposed to be the glitzy introduction of the truck of the future, price around

40,000 and it would be faster than a porsche 9/11 and a better tow, but the unveiling left doubt including deutsche bank and left a lot of unanswered questions they say on the quality of tesla cars, also the design of the truck itself left a lot to be desired. some called it ugly, boxy, delorean-like and old school. that's not my favorite. neil: but it gets 500 miles on a charge. >> oh, stop, stop. neil: talk to the hand. susan li, the best. and tesla is not the only reason why elon musk is making headlines. some astronomers are not liking spacex, some say the satellites are blocking the stars. looking at the satellites out there, is he the only one to blame. they say mostly his stuff

because it's low orbit. and i don't know, about you jim bridenstine, is it his stuff out there? >> we have a lot of stuff in low earth orbit, most it commercial like his stuff. spacex is a great partner with nasa, they're responsible space actors and some of the problems with astronomy can be mitigated easily by reducing the reflectivity of the satellites. spacex is working with the astronomers to make sure that they don't get in the way and i will tell you, i know elon musk personally, he has no interest in blocking the access for the astronomers. neil: this is a dumb question on my part. you're used to them. can't they just wait if you're looking for the satellite or aforementioned satellites to pass and then it's not an issue? so the challenges, we're talking about thousands of satellites in low earth orbit that are

streaking across the sky and so what happens is, depending on the exposure of the telescope, you could get streaks across the picture that you're creating for the images. so that's been happening. but here is the thing, it can be mitigated. we can find the right balance. we're working on it every day, and spacex is a great partner and making sure they're doing the right thing. >> you know while i've got you here, i'm curious. they've been talking a lot more about revamping our space program and eventually getting men and women up into space of their own accord, without hitching a ride with the russians, what have you. how close are we to that? >> i would say we're within, in the first half of in exyekex-- next year american astronauts on american rockets from american soil for the first time since the retirement of the space shuttle in 2011. we've been out for eight years and we're bringing it back in the first half of next year and it's more than that, we're

putting together a coalition of nations going to the moon and the united states is leading it and it will be stunning and important for our country as we go forward. neil: and also while i have you, the push to go to the moon and revisit the moon, they've been there, done that 40-plus years ago. why do we have to revisit it. i get it, that's going to be a launching pad for some of the other interstellar missions and all, but it seems like going backwards to go forward. >> neil, neil, hold on. you're a money guy. goldman sachs did a study, goldman sachs said that the world's first trillion nair is going to be somebody or an entity that can mine asteroids and/or the moon. we look at impacts on the moon, all of those big craters, those are asteroids impacts from billions of years ago. on earth we call them rare earth metals, they're asteroid impacts. there's an activity geology and the moon does not. anything that impacted the moon billions of years ago is right

where it was billions of years ago, in other words, there could be massive deposits of platinum group metals on the moon. i'm not saying there there is, i'm saying it could change the balance of power on earth and it ought to be the united states of america to make the discoveries. neil: i don't know why anyone is criticizing our going back to the moon. i don't know where they're coming from. jim, seriously. thank you very, very much. >> thank you. neil: now i understand. jim bridenstine, the nasa administrator tulsa, oklahoma. this is something i can immediately relate to and understand and that's food. my buddy rob is back. chef rob on wheels. you know, rob cook food.com. the guy is a whiz. you might remember him when he made this like stadium out of food for the super bowl. this is blowing that away. what's worrying me is a lot of my crew is hanging close to him and they're under the notion that they're going to get some of that food. no, no, no, that's for me. after this. may 1 of '75...

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>> all right, we've been relaxing and chilling during the break. forget the lines and the chaos, we have some of the hottest tech steel you can get right now. one of my favorite to talk with jennifer jolly. i love that name jennifer, did it start out that way. >> this is my real name, my maiden name when it comes to the holidays and hot tech deals, how could not be. neil: you immediately pounce on what's catching your attention. you lead us. what looks the best? >> well, when it comes to finding really good door buster deals, don't go outside on black friday. the hottest deals are to be had on thanksgiving day only 27 people plan to shop on thanksgiving, this is an according to a shopper survey. neil: we're supposed to be with our families. >> 20 minutes to sneak away and get the online deals. we have six fewer days between

thanksgiving and christmas and that's what they need to make up for and the deals are rolling in the inboxes. sign up for alerts, we're getting deals right nowment one of my favorite in the laptop section, things to look out for the with the door buster laptops, 100, 200, 300, poorer quality and from the flip phone era. look for this lenovo, a stellar two in one with a gorgeous 14 or 15 inch cut screen display, and i love the rotating dolby speaker. this is normally 1700, the black friday price is $1300. that's 400 dollar saving. that's what to look for, 300 to 500 savings to look for this

year. neil: and that's something that lenovo passes to their distributors. >> you've got it. next, a great tip, too, after that. smart home savings. a lot of times you get into the store, there's electronics deals, there's big deals on home appliances, but the trick is, that they want to force you into rebates, so about the time you think to mail in the rebates to get the cash back, your gadget is braking down. so again, go for something out this year, something like the pure one s12 cordless smart vacuum. this is one of my favorite gadgets of the whole year, uses artificial intelligence to figure out how much to pick up. it's quieter, cleaner. neil: that's the one on the floor. >> i want to grab it and show you what i love about it. i'm not a big vacuum person in my life. i freaking love that vacuum. it's quiet, it uses an artifical intelligence and can tell within a half inch of the human hair

exactly what it's picking up. neil: and what makes it great? there are a lot of vacuums? >> can i show you, run and show you fast? what makes it great aside from the fact it's high-tech and uses artificial intelligence. this is how loud it is, okay? my favorite feature is the led headlight in the front and it highlights the dust, dirt, pet hair, you run over it and it's gone. superior cleaning, and battery life. neil: you have to get out more. >> i know, right? bundling up. when it comes to gaming gadgets, everything is hot for the holidays, you will score great deals when you bundle up consoles with games, versus just the console deals themselves. this is the playstation 4. neil: a lot much it comes with at liao he is a game? >> at least one, but where we're seeing the biggest markdowns

right now are on the bundles. that's the back story deal are the bundle. one tera byte. neil: i don't want to encourage gaming. . >> well. neil: it's the way of the worlds. >> i like to encourage saving money. neil: and get my kids the vacuum, i'd encourage vacuuming and clean their rooms. >> is it strange to love a vacuum? what is this speaker, flash blue light? >> this bluetooth speaker, this is the sound core raze mini, this is an indoor/out door speaker, you drop that in the pool, it's $50 off walmart black friday. one. things i love about it, pumps out the bass like crazy and i love the little light show that it does. he puts on its own light show in

the front and amps up the party and i really like that. neil: it matches whatever the tempo of the music, right? >> right. neil: confused if it's gregorian chance. >> it is, but when it's the holly joelly christmas show. we've got the mini cameras. holiday special. get it in black. and the photo backup manager, you look for deals on hard drives, things like that, they're practically giving them away. neil: you're brilliant, jennifer. every year we learn something, don't be fooled by the quick sales and rebates, she's right on that before and right now. jennifer jolly, merry christmas and that's her real name. she went right into that profession. we'll have more. there's a company that's talked to even more real people

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>> do any of you remember this, it was a guy who built this before last year's super bowl and he's back. one of my favorite guests ever. not only that he's gifted, but

he's the nicest guy. and now chef rob is back with your traditional thanksgiving feast. this is-- i've been trying to do the show with all of this stuff smelling so great. it's tough, very, very tough. good to see you, my friend. >> thank you so much for having me. neil: this is awesome. no, we're not sharing it. you lead me. first of all, how did you carve the turkey perfectly? >> it's actually a cartoon turkey, it's not even real. neil: it smells real. >> my first managerial job was with boston market and they had you start from the ground up and i carved hundreds and hundreds of chickens-- >> mine is shredded and what did i do wrong? you dependent have me over. invite me over and let me know. neil: that looks really good, really good. did you cook it a special way? >> i've got my recipe, check out my brian recipe.

it keeps the succulent juices in and rose it off, 350, it's about 13, 15 minutes a pound. you don't want to wait until that button pops up, sometimes the button pops up after it's done cooking. neil: you take it out. >> you want to make sure it's at 165. 165 degrees internally. this way you know it's completely cooked. neil: okay. now i'm looking at what looked like meatballs here, what my people eat. >> they do look like meatballs. neil: last time you had me on, people were giving me flak, too much shall too much, too much start, too much fat. >> i was not-- . so what we did was we took the mashed potato and stuffed it inside the stuffing and we rolled it in some bread crumbs and deep fried it. it's only one starch not two, right. neil: healthy version? this isn't healthy-- >> listen, it's a sweet potato, it's a vegetable. what i did was, beat it with

brown sugar, maple syrup to put the sweetness in it, and put in the cayenne to counter the sweetness. i was told i couldn't do fire today. and a roasted marshmallow to-- >> that's the marshmallow and you charred it a little bit. i've got it, i've got it. >> and then we have to bring it on the healthier side, we have the best-- fall vegetables are the best. neil: and here-- >> i had to give a shout out. my daughter was helping me prep and she wanted to make sure that you acknowledge it. neil: if i were inclined to like vegetables, i might go for these. >> listen, these are vegetables. neil: wow. >> this is kind of where you were talking about before where you didn't want-- hey, listen the least amount of time eating and drink, you don't want to spend the time prep and making this five hours cooking a

turkey. this is deconstructed turkey, so we took the different parts of the turkey and this is the simon and garfunkel marinade. parsley sage, rosemary and thyme. you could grill it, pan sear it, cook off the potatoes and-- >> it's instead of carving and spent the time, wasting the time at the dinner table, you can just go, you could eat and get your drink. neil: and this year-- >> i knew you had your eye on this. neil: i did, indeed. >> this is our patented apple nachos. neil: sounds good. >> so you've got your apple pie and you could wait all day for the apple pies to bake and turn the crust. this is flour tortilla dusted with cinnamon sugar, it's kind of like an apple compote thing there, and a razzbury marzipone

with-- >> you look at the crew members getting closer. >> you didn't let them eat thinking. neil: guys, thank you very much and thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. neil: you've got a truck now, the whole business and he's on fire, he's great. happy thanksgiving. verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. newday has extended our call center hours so that every veteran in america can take advantage of this unexpected drop in interest rates. one call can save you $2000 every year. to start saving on your next mortgage payment go to

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