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very important deal. i guess you could say one of the most important deals in trade ever. it's going very well. we want to see it going well and hong kong, and i think it will. i think president xi can make that happen. i know them, and i know he would like to make it happen. >> rick: kevin corke is reporting live from west palm beach with context on this. kevin? >> rick, we will get back to the hong kong issue, which is very important one, just a moment. for our domestic audience come as a nation we certainly have plenty to be thankful for. that is the message from the president, the first family, to the american family. in fact, the president making his thanksgiving wishes known by way of twitter. let me share with you. "brevity being the soul of wit, it is brief and witty. " x "happy thanksgiving, wishes from the first family to the mae a family." we expect them to conduct a videoconference call with u.s. service members serving abroad. that's become a bit of a tradition for the president, as

well as saluting law enforcement and first responders during the holidays. in fact, a proclamation that we received from the white house yesterday said as much. let me share a part of it. "this thanksgiving we pause and acknowledge those who will have empty seats at their table. we ask god to watch over our service members, especially those whose selfless commitment to serving our country and defending our sacred liberty has called them to do the overseas during the holiday season." meanwhile, as he mentioned, have a world away over in hong kong, those in the throes of massive protests for months, against what many see as intentional encouragement from the government in beijing. got a very big lift from the white house yesterday. as the president signed a pair of bills aimed at, as you pointed out, punishing human rights violators as well as offering trade and security set-asides for hong kong. the president did issue a statement. it read in part, "i signed these bills out of respect for president xi, china, and the

people of hong kong. they are being enacted in the hope that the leaders and representatives of china and hong kong will be able to amicably settle their differences, leading to long-term peace." and prosperity for all. as is often the case, we get little bits of information here and there, and our producer today is here at fox. she tell us we might get a picture of the president as he conducts that video teleconference with american service personnel serving abroad. if we get pictures, i promise you i will share them. for now, back to you. >> rick: we will be looking for that. thanks very much, kevin corke. the winter white house, the winter home of the president down in florida. we will talk to you soon. >> julie: let's bring in jimmy weinstein how most of the jimmy weinstein show podcast and founding partner at jay mw strategies. thank you for talking to us. let's talk first about this hong kong bill. was the significance of it? >> i think it's largely symbolic. the past obviously

overwhelmingly from congress. the vetoproof majority. it doesn't seem like something the president really wanted, but really had no choice but to sign or watch it be overturned. that's why you have to an incongruous statement. he setting it out of respect for not only the hong kong people, for president xi. he obviously doesn't think this is out of respect paid for him there's been some harsh comments from tran about the president signing this. the question is, where does it go from here? does the president do anything with the powers that really he already had? it's a little bit redundant. does he try to sanction people who are responsible for putting down the uprisings in hong kong? you have to think that is not likely while the president is trying to pursue a trade deal, which he sees is very important. >> julie: right. what could this mean for talks with china, and the tariff fight impacting a lot of small businesses and farmers here in the u.s.? >> it depends how china takes it. >> julie: they are not taking it well so far.

china's response to the signing is unfavorable. china sang the implementation of the u.s. builds on the hong kong human rights undermine cooperatecooperation in importa. i did know the bill mandates sanctions on chinese and hong kong officials who carry out the city's rights abuses in hong kong. how important is it for china to get on board? >> yeah. well, it's unclear whether it mandates that are gives discretion to the president. in his signing statement he claimed that there is executive authority there that he contro controls. if the president of where sanction officials, i think it would probably be devastating to the trade bill. with every president, they have a question. what you value more? human rights or realpolitik? he falls on the other end of the spectrum, where it's what he sees as more and his agenda. going into election seems very important to them. it seems to me would be very unlikely he would yield sanctions. perhaps he will threaten them as

partly to get a better deal for united states and his negotiations with china. it's hard to imagine he will enforce sanctions while he tries to get this deal going into an election year, because he sees it as a numbered issue. >> julie: i want to switch gears here. the white house is now switching gears a bit, considering sending his legal team to the house judiciary committee hearing when that impeachment hearing continues this wednesday. this is after initially coming out, and the president and the council would say they will not show up, because they don't believe due process is being done here. there was some backlash. the question is, is it a good idea for the president to go in where is the white house winning? today not need to go in? >> the question is, i think, last week we saw with the impeachment hearings in the intelligence committee, did that sway enough of the 20 senators have to flip in order to remove the president for office? he is obviously going to be impeached through the house of representatives. the question is, will he be

removed? you need 20 republican senators. there were a lot of bombshells last week. i don't thin think you move tho0 republican senators to vote for removal from office. where does that with the president? does he not play with the house, and continue his argument that he has been treated unfairly? you would think that is a possible move to make. as you mention, it seems like he will cooperate and send some counsel to the house of representatives to participate. as of now, he looks safe to be not removed from office. revelations every day. we don't know what's going to happen. he wants another intel committee are preparing to set a report to the judiciary committee. the president's attorney potentially now going to be showing up. the political impact of all of this, of whether or not the president shows up or doesn't show up words, shows up, president is obviously not going to be going to testify. what is the political fallout from would you say? >> some argue that the process is unfair. on the other hand, i don't think

anything is going to change, unless more revelations come out that forced 20 republican senators to drop the president. meaning they vote against him, to remove him for office, 1,000 pages in. it's possible, but it remains very unlikely because the republicans in the senate have stood by the president so far through a lot of, i think, very difficult revelations. so far it hasn't swayed them. >> julie: it hasn't swayed, necessarily, the american public. the question now, is the pressure on the democrats? this is essentially their last chance to boost support for impeachment. or people's minds already made up? >> i think it's a difficult quandary. ideally for the democrats they would be able to do this over a much longer period of time, where they would be able to go through court battles to get john bolton and mick mulvaney to testify before them. democrats face a very big primary, although the

presidential candidate starting in february, they don't want the impeachment hearings to take focus away from their presidential candidates. this has to be a truncated time frame. i don't know when that time frame whether they can sway with the american public and the republicans in the senate to remove the president from office. >> julie: jamie weinstein, thank you very much. happy thanksgiving to you. >> seem to you. >> rick: the justice department inspector general reportedly finding fbi informants were not placed inside the trump campaign in 2016. that is according to "the new york times," but some g.o.p. lawmakers say the report, due out december 9th, will still be devastating. doug mckelway is in washington to explain. doug? >> rick, it's under two weeks now until the horowitz report will officially be released, and in anticipation debate is growing about how damaging the report will be, and to whom it does the most damage. president trump were to his critics? speculation fueled by this recent "new york times" report that says the horowitz report will show the fbi did not try to

place undercover agents or informants inside the trump campaign. the report said it found no evidence of the fbi attempted to place undercover agents or informants inside donald j. trump's campaign in 2016, as agents investigated whether his associates conspired with russia's election interference operation. some are dismissing that times report as prespin to minimize the damage the report will cost to the president's critics. >> by its very definition, a fisa application is a warrant to spy on somebody. this person, carter page, happen to be on the trump campaign. the mere fact that they are trying to discredit that says a lot about the weakness of their case and their allegations. >> earlier, north carolina republican representative mark meadows told fox's gillian turner, "the facts will show surveillance conducted without the knowledge of some trump associates occurred." "the new york times" reported that informants were not placed inside the campaign is a red

herring, and attempted to diminish the seriousness of improper activity that did occur." fox news has confirmed that the horowitz report will find a former fbi lawyer is being investigated for allegedly altering a document related to surveillance of the trump campaign, but that alteration did not change the factual basis for the issuance of a fisa report. a fisa warrant, i should say. rick? >> rick: we will no more a week from monday. doug mckelway in washington, thanks very much. >> my pleasure. >> julie: powerful storms because acquired the havoc for holiday travelers across the u.s. today. parts of the u.s. getting buried under feet of snow, and a bomb cyclone. bettering the northwest with hurricane force winds. we've got lauren ranson, senior meteorologist at accuweather network, tracking it for us. hi, there. >> happy thanksgiving to you. yes, we've been tracking that massive low-pressure system moving across southern california.

responsible for one to 3 inches of total rainfall, just through friday alone. as you are heading through the rest of thanksgiving, rain from l.a. to san diego, well below average temperatures for this time of year. they will drop to the 40s, near 50 after midnight in san diego. ahead of that thought bomb cyclone, we are seeing that tricky travel from interstates 90, i-80, and interstate 70. with a mix of rain and snow. they're going to be slick spots out there. if you are traveling from the windy city to fort wayne, should be good to go. dust on the chilly side. we remain quiet into tonight, but into minneapolis with a little glaze of ice accumulation possible. the heads up in the northeast. i know that low-pressure continues to pull away from us, but the pressure gradient remains tight. that's whipping around that strong west-northwesterly breeze. 55 miles per hour through the rest of thursday evening.

philly, new york, more dry but definitely on the windy side with highs in the lower 50s. boston, it's very wet and chil chilly. after midnight, you will drop to the 30s. coming up a little after 3:10 p.m. eastern time i will have the rest of this week's travel forecast. julie? >> julie: lauren rainson, thank you very much. rick? >> rick: elizabeth warren stock is falling. and several new 2020 poles we look at the state of the democratic rates dog race for president come up with a former navy secretary has harsh words for president trump in an op-ed. why he is calling out the commander in chief. ♪ at bayer, we're helping put more gold

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while searching a car crossing into the u.s. at the western mexico border, look closely. that is a man. guess where he is? in a dashboard. a border officer opened the car's glove compartment, and that's when they saw a human hand behind the dashboard. after dismantling the dash, they found a 17-year-old mexican citizen crammed into that narrow space. what are virtual agents took the teen into custody. the driver and passenger, both american citizens, now face human smuggling charges. >> rick: but does not look comfortable. >> julie: that is not. i bet he wasn't wearing a seat belt. very unsafe. >> rick: unlikely. >> julie: just a guess. a hunch. >> rick: new development smita gallagher case per the former secretary of the navy now blessing president trump, writing in a "washington post" op-ed, "this is a shocking and unprecedented intervention in a low level review. it's also a reminder the president has very little understanding of what it means

to be in the military parade to fight ethically or be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices. let's bring in joey jones, retired u.s. marine corps bomb tech and fox news contributor. happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving, guys. >> rick: what the president out of line inserting himself in the eddie gallagher case? >> i think we have to understand that this entire case has kind of happened in a bubble of its own. this isn't something to say, "hey, this is unprecedented and it will continue to happen. there are a lot of aspects of this case to include, probably most import and they come a misconduct on behalf of the navy prosecutorial team in trying to prosecute eddie gallagher. it made the president feel like he needed to step in. there are different things, the secretary of the navy actually does a good job of outlining them. the president felt the need to step in, starting with eddie being detained, as if he were already found guilty, with no real risk of leaving the country. all the way down to a review

board that the gallagher family had good reason to believe would not be fair and impartial. >> rick: as your partner intervene on behalf of people who are over prosecuted come as the president apparently felt in this case. >> i think it's important. the secretary of the navy in this op-ed, does no favors and does a really bad job of trying to balance out the actions of the president. the best thing for the navy and for the seals is for this thing to go away, and for good old discipline to continue to happen. hopefully the navy will understand it can't just do whatever it wants to in its own bubble when it comes to prosecuting people that are charged with war crimes. eddie gallagher to .8 times, in defense of this country. by all accounts he did so honorably and lead seals in the combat and brought them home. i think that means something and i think the present respect th that. i think that support for the

president as well. he doesn't know what it means of serving the the military but he understands what americans at home feel when it comes to those that served, and that's who he is acting on behalf of, and of the navy. >> rick: that is worth repeating. he did eight tours of duty. eight of them come in a very hostile environment. >> obsolete. >> rick: the former navy secretary also said, "we are effective overseas but because we have the best equipment but because we are professionals. our troops are held to the highest standards." in his point was that eddie gallagher's actions, if you pose with the head of an insurgent, undermines our credibility and our credibility to work with other f war. is that fair to say that? >> i think that's fair to say that is his opinion and perspective, and when it comes to boots in the ground we live in a different world. he should be wise to acknowledge that. what i will say is if we knew the board of senior enlisted

navy seals would have been fair to eddie, and there was not a risk of admiral green overturning, even if they tried to let him keep his trident, the president should not have intervened. the problem is, and what the secretary of the navy can neatly clues down my legs out, there were clues along the way on things that made the gallagher family and ultimately the president feel like even that review board wouldn't do it fairly. the president said, "let this man retire with honor and leave him alone." at that point i agree. if this were a naval officer still serving in the navy with ten years in front of him, the career ahead of him, and only have the problem of this picture, that would be a different case. unfortunately that's not what this was, and at that point it's good to let him require retire and let him have his honor and dignity. >> rick: do you think spencer has a point, that this would hurt the discipline of the military? or does the president of the point that these war fighters need our support? and what he did was basically to do just that for any gallagher?

>> the problem is the former secretary of the navy is conveniently leaving out the reason why eddie gallagher was found not guilty of 6 of 7 counts. so he is worried that this unique case, of a social media president intervening with one navy seal, is going to inspire millions of troops to go do things they shouldn't do and know they shouldn't do, that is asinine. what is true is that now we know that the navy justice system will hack your computer and email in order to obtain information. and that disrupts the order and discipline, because it puts the idea of good order and discipline above the moral aspects of justice. justice should not be overridden because of optics or setting the example. those things are convenient and they are good for culture, but they are not on the same playing field as true justice, and the

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flames. >> one of the following towers, it took off like a rocket. that was the concern, one of those rockets could impact others in the facility and lead to a more catastrophic loss. >> this chemical plant produces more than 9 million pounds of material a year, including a variety of synthetic materials like rubber and nylon. about 200 people were given facility, but about 30 employees were reportedly at the plant at the time of the explosion. it's unclear when the evacuation order will be lifted. again, it was put into place on thanksgiving eve. >> it's not an easy thing to do. i'll tell you why, i would rather call on the side of error and have no one hurt than to say, "let's not do it." and then have someone get hurt. >> state environmental officials

are monitoring air quality around the chemical plant, and even though they say the smoke is not a danger to the public at this time, they are still requesting the cdc come in and take a look of the data and assess any potential health risks. julie? >> julie: thank you, christina coleman. rick? ♪ >> rick: well, most of the 2020 candidates are taking a break to spend thanksgiving with family, but some are out and about today. meanwhile, the latest quinnipiac poll showing elizabeth warren's numbers thinking, while mere pete buttigieg is surging. gillian turner is live in washington with this. gillian? >> hi, rick. you were right, not every candidate is spending the entire day to the eating turkey. if you democrats are out and about, making public appearances, laser and you're not liable where the first in the nation caucuses are now just under two months out. kamala harris and amy klobuchar are there today and through the weekend. harris is cheering on her brother-in-law at a turkey trot this morning, heading over to a

senior citizen center in des moines. she tells fox news she is pumped to spend your holiday weekend in the hawkeye state. >> i decided i was spending more time in iowa, and there are so many families here that i have met and worked with. i wanted to be here during the season to be able to spend some time with them. >> elizabeth warren says she sinks full for a family of a grassroots movement fighting alongside her. she's not 1 of 4 candidates leading the pack, along according to new polls from quinnipiac. along with bernie sanders, joe biden, and pete buttigieg. buttigieg has picked up the most steam nationwide. he isn't ending the trail today but put out a thanksgiving message. "i'm single for the sacrifices of those in uniform, protecting us abroad so we may celebrate at home." joe and dr. jill biden are in nantucket. they are also thinking the troops, and they say in a

message, "our campaign is about restoring the soul of america but recognizing that our differences are precious, and our similarities infinite." biden has zero public event slated this entire week, but after thinks leaving weekend he will hit the trail for eight days straight. it's going to be his inaugural bus tour of the campaign season, and his team since they have christened it the "no malarkey bus to her." >> rick: well, we can look forward to that. thanks so much." [laughter] >> happy thanksgiving. >> julie: let's bring in republican strategist noelle nikpour a democratic strategist laura fink. thank you ladies very much for talking to us. i will talk with you. there are only nine weeks to go until democrats cast the first vote in the presidential primary. i surprise most of the 2020 candidates are actually taking a break from the campaign trail? only kamala harris and amy klobuchar have events today. >> i am, julie. i'm really surprised. if i really candidates in this race, with people peaking too

soon and joe biden still holding that 24 percent lead, you bet i would be out there. i would be at the senior homes, just like kamala harris. i would be going to marathons and turkey trots. i would be doing everything i could to take advantage, to show the people that i'm willing to work for their vote. i would not be sitting at home watching the macy's day parade on television with my family, no offense. i would be working. it's every man for himself in the democratic primary. with these numbers, some of these things are pretty close, julie. i would be getting out and working. i would take advantage of the day and get to know people. >> julie: loyal, you must agree. it's a little risky at this point, with so many contenders still in the race. literally, elizabeth warren cannot bat an eyelash before one of her poll numbers dips. the new quinnipiac poll that we just showed shows joe biden, he is still on top nationally, but elizabeth warren has sunk by

50%. joe biden continues to lead nationally again, but elizabeth warren is now down another 5% in any new poll. warren says she doesn't do polls. should she be concerned? >> joe biden has a durable lead, and elizabeth warren's trajectory has been on the rise up until this point. we see this step as a function of her being measured by electability. we know that likability, particularly with female candidates, is something that is talked about. in this race, the democratic electorate wants someone that can beat trump. elizabeth warren's charge right now, in the face of these poll numbers, is to prove that the best man to be donald trump is the woman and her name is elizabeth warren. she has to dig in. part of the national settling. let's keep in mind the 50% of the democratic electorate said that they don't know who they will be finally voting for. that their vote could change. while these poll numbers are in flux, there's a lot of opportunity for all of the candidates, particularly those

in the top floor, and even some that haven't broken that threshold yet. >> julie: i don't think there's any question that elizabeth warren has the endurance. some people question whether or not joe biden has the endurance, and if bernie sanders has the endurance. her endurance is pulling very well. despite the fact she doesn't do polls. medicare for all is not doing well for her. it is not to blame for maureen's crash? >> i think it is. i will go a step further and tell you that i feel that mayor pete have a lot to do with that. with the debate, he really pressed her on where those funds were going to be coming from, to where she actually had to admit where the funds were going to be coming from, and i think it was him. i think it was mayor pete that went toe-to-toe and kind of tarnished the star of elizabeth warren. you notice that mayor pete, his numbers are going a little bit up, and his fund-raising numbers are going up. which tells me that that is a direction right now on someone

that is about to head up a good line. >> julie: laura, let's talk mayor pete. he has risen to second place nationally. he also continues to surge in the key states of iowa and new hampshire. by the way, warren once had a strong backing in iowa from establishment democrats worried about biden and not in favor of bernie. so the question is, does buttigieg's rise show the democrats want a centrist candidate? because her drop comes as she faces unrelenting attacks over her medicare for all plan, which now 52% of voters oppose. >> the reality is that it's not a specific policy proposal that necessarily is the problem. we know that pete buttigieg -- there are these things that ebb and flow, he has made a good showing. over and over, i have to go back to that electability. democratic voters are not looking at policy proposals and saying, "i am sour on this and i love that." generally speaking, the number one parked on my priority is beating donald trump. so that elected but he comes into play. as a one-woman candidate who is in the top four, we know the

ambition tax has been proven time and time again. when female candidates run for office, their approval rating drops by ten points. let's keep in mind elizabeth warren is facing those headwinds, as well. she knows she has to deal with that. she has an insurgent candidate to deal with and pete buttigieg come but she's got a grassroots movement, as she said, behind her. that's what she needs to focus on, building and expanding that movement. >> julie: we got to leave it there. >> she's got a man problem, as i like to say. >> julie: don't we all? [laughs] speak out they favor her by the high school budgets. >> julie: all right, got to go. because she has more women supporting her than men. there's a delta in the high digits. she's got a close that gap. we want to have to. thank you. thank you both, and happy thanksgiving. >> rick: the lights are out and nobody is home at the corner of wall and broad. but if the markets are open, there's a good chance we would set another record. do you think folks will celebrate the good times with a lot of holiday shopping this season?

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deals. so we are not really saving. that's an issue. >> rick: let's talk about that. there is a poll that shows 52% of americans believe they are behind on saving for retirement. just 11%, as you see there, think they are ahead of the curve. so more than half of america doesn't have enough money saved or thinks they don't. >> retirement is relevant to so many different types of jobs. if you come if you are in the standard traditional job can be up to work up until 65 and then. a lot in these days are much younger, and become and amount of wealth so much younger. for them, retirement is not a question of whether they have my saved, it's more about, "what do i do next?" we know the economy is doing really well. and people have money. they are expecting be spending that money. why aren't they saving it? >> i think the indicators are lack of knowledge of what

capital markets and money market accounts can do. a lot of our clients, for example, prefer to have just savings or checking accounts with a lot of money in them, and they are not working that money in the market. so the job that we have tends to be to advise them wide not to do that. >> rick: so your advice to america watching right now is what? put it away? >> spend money a little bit, but if you have money sitting in a bank account, put in a money market account, a capital market account, where you can actually take advantage of how good the economy is doing. >> what i found interesting in some of the stories today as there are fewer shopping days until christmas this year. the calendar is kind of messed up. there are six fewer days between fixing and christmas, and one fewer shopping weekend. and yet they are talking about breaking records with spending. how is that even possible? >> listen, in my house to put our christmas tree up like two months ago and i was already asking, "why are we doing that," everybody likes the holidays. we are driven by that. that drives the consumption.

so this is the clear example of why we are breaking records. >> rick: a lot of people are spending that money online now, more and more. >> there's a lot of sentiment against that, too. the whole thing with amazon coming to new york, nowadays retail stores that close drops. we are coming back. i see a lot of stores opening stores because they know that customer client relationships are important. that face-to-face relationship that you have to build from scratch, if the infrastructure, it's the foundation of your company. so i don't think retail online will just be it. it's part of the strategy and everybody should strategize to that end, too, but when you're opening your doors to people make sure you take care of those clients. >> rick: there is something to be said for be able to go and come out turn on the item, see what feels before you buy you bite. >> right, have not seen these strategies or seamless experien. you go to grocery store, you can do an instant check out by

yourself. nobody's going to be checking you. they are trusting you to do that, to do the right thing. things of that sort are happening. that's great. this is the future. >> rick: they should be paying the customers to do that, don't you think? >> [laughs] >> rick: one click 2020 production though my prediction. will the market go through the roof, do you see 30,000 next year? >> absolutely. i don't see a recession happening anytime soon. there is no indicator for it. we have the lowest unemployment rate ever. we need to follow that. >> rick: thank you. julie? >> the victim at the center of a botched airlift rescue now taking action. remember this woman, she was hiking and she fell, a chopper tried to help her and she spun like a helicopter? now she's looking to settle for $2 million. does she have a case? next. building the most powerful 5g experience for america. it's 5g ultra wideband-- --for massive capacity-- --and ultra-fast speeds. almost 2 gigs here in minneapolis.

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is stable and suffered no effects from the spin. >> julie: well, she says otherwise. that happened in june. and we have an update for you on that arizona hiker whose airlift rescue went viral back in june after the basket that she was in, it wrapped like a mummy safely was the effect they are. it started spinning out of control. now she is seeking $2 million from the city of phoenix. under stillman, attorney and northwestern law school professor joins us now. good to see you, too. you say this it penalizes the saying, "no good deed goes left unpunished." >> isn't that exactly it? you have a woman who is 2,612 feet up on a mountain, she falls, she hits her head, she has her face, and now she's complaining that she wasn't rescued the proper way? that she should have been walked down the mountain or put on an atv? that is hindsight. that is disingenuous. i think this case is probably as frivolous as the mcdonald's coffee case.

the one she says this rescue caused her "physical, emotional, and psychological injuries and damage." we just heard from the fire chief who said she was a little dizzy right afterward, but otherwise appeared fine. but who can forget the images of her starting to spin slowly and then faster and faster until she literally looked like a human helicopter? and then the pilot on board, who obviously did not foresee this happening, but they are trying their darndest to get her up to the chopper so they can stop the spinning. let's listen to the pilots perspective. >> the last six years we've used a hoist 210 times, on mountain rescues. those 210 times, we know of it happening twice. i think the last time it happened was about three or four years ago. so it's very rare. it is not something that is inherent to the basket or inherent to the bag. it is just something that occurs every now and again. we are trained to deal with it. >> julie: they are trying to do with this.

they argue that it could have come out on wheels come in atv or something like that. clearly getting out there on wheels would have taken much longer. she had a head injury. we have a head injury, the fastest you can get that taken care of medically, the better. what if she had suffered a head injury or had some kind of bleed? and then they put her on a bumpy ride on an atv? you are damned if you do, damned if you don't. >> that's obsoleted. these mountain rescues are not easy, especially if you're up that high. the standard is kind of, did these rescues use a standard that other rescuers would use? yeah, they did. this is difficult, this is hard. these first responders are the heroes of society. they should be applauded and not soon. >> julie: the rescue happened in june. it has taken her some time, or for her lawyers, to get the steak together. we are just hearing about it come thanksgiving. they are taking their time with this, obviously. she fell. let's talk about where she fell. she was hiking on the northern trail in the northern part of the city. over 1,000 feet down. she was hiking in a particularly

dangerous area. is she then putting herself at risk? in other words, does that weaken her claim? you made a choice. you put yourself in this position and i were putting rescuers at risk, as well, to gu safely. taking a chopper into any kind of ditch or hole or cliff is also very dangerous for the pilot, but certainly he didn't think twice before putting himself at risk. and now she is suing. >> that's right. there's a concept called "assumption of risk." when you go mountain climbing and you are up on the mountain, it is foreseeable that you may slip. that you may fall, you may have an injury. guess what? the first responders have to come and save you at that point. they don't have to be perfect and how they do it, but that is a difficult job. they probably did the best job they could. i think she is asking for $2 million worth of damages. >> julie: just perspective, the mcdonald's coffee lady, she was in the hospital for eight days.

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♪ >> putting his support for behind hong kong's antigovernment movement, hello everyone, happy thanksgiving, welcome to "america's news headquarters." we've got a couple hours to go. >> then we can get some turkey. >> we get to do that today? speak of the president's agenda is important on this thanksgiving day. let's go to kevin corke in west palm beast he met beach florida, still safe to say we will in fact see the president at some point today.

>> i think so, rick, obviously things can change with respect to the schedule, certainly we will keep an eye out for that as we try to manage one of the vehicles which has an alarm going off. hopefully you can still hear me. i want to take you to twitter and share the white house tweets about thanksgiving, this thanksgiving we are thankful to all who wear our nations uniform who allow us -- >> rick: sorry to cut you off, here's the president. >> we will see if they want to make a deal, it's got to be a real deal but we will see if they want to make a deal. they only want to make a deal because you're doing a great job, that's the only reason they want to make a deal. i want to thank you and afghan soldiers, you say they are really fighting hard, i was really impressed with that, actually, i want to thank you. again, i've heard so much about

it, it's an incredible place, some airfield, sun fortress. i want to thank all of the afghan troops, we have a number of them standing around, saying hello and waiting and we appreciated and i also say to you, at ease. let's enjoy ourselves for a couple minutes, i'm going to introduce a few people but there's nowhere i'd rather celebrate this thanksgiving then right here with the toughest, strongest, best and bravest warriors on the face of the earth, you are indeed that. when i took office, almost three years ago, we were very depleted, our military was depleted in terms of equipment, they are all shaking their heads. we have all those brand-new planes and brand-new helicopters and brand-new ships being built now, brand-new incredible submarines, the most powerful

submarines, probably the most powerful weapon in the world is what we are building, nothing is even close. we have things nobody's seen, nobody's heard about and we will keep it that way. but we've spent two and a half trillion dollars, close to that number and very shortly it will be two and a half trillion dollars and while i don't love that, what that does to my budget because i'm a budget person, if we don't have a strong military, budgets don't matter much, do they? with what's going on in the world today, very important, $2.5 trillion and nobody beats our great army, navy, air force, coast guard, marines and we think soon we are going to be adding a thing called space, you know about that, right? space. we will have space covered very well, we are covering it now but we have to cover it to a much greater extent and you'll be

hearing about that in the coming days and weeks. i've just come from serving thanksgiving dinner to son love you, i recognize already some of you in the audience. and we had a good time, i sat down and had a gorgeous piece of turkey and i was all set to go and i had some of the mashed potatoes and i had a bite of mashed potatoes and i never got to the cherokee because general milley said come on over, let's take some pictures. i never got to my turkey. the first thanksgiving i've never had anything called turkey but that's okay. it looked awfully good, i have to tell you. i should've started with that instead of the mashed potatoes, i made a mistake. but i hope everyone enjoyed the fantastic meal, it certainly did look good and hopefully everyone can get some well-deserved rest this holiday. your family, at home, they love you so much. we flew 8,331 miles to be here

tonight for one simple reason, to tell you in person that this thanksgiving is a special thanksgiving, we are doing so well, our country is the strongest economically it's ever been, we've never done so well, we have the greatest economy everywhere in the world so it's nice to know you're fighting for something that is doing well as opposed to something that was not doing well just a number of years ago. our stock markets reach the highest level ever in the history of the exchanges, all three. if you look, all three, it's incredible. it's incredible what's happening, i think it's close to 130 days, less than three years and 130 times we've broken the all-time record. and to me that doesn't mean an all-time record, it means something different. it means jobs, 401ks, people

come up to be with their 401ks, sir, you may be look like a genius, thank you very much. they feel good. so i just want to say that we thank god for your help and all of the things that you've done, you're very special people and you don't even know how much of the people of our country love and respect you. and they do. that's why i'm here, i'm just reading the message. the courageous american warriors in afghanistan and across the region are leading the fight to vanquish america's enemies and defeat forces of radical islamic terrorism. i said it so often during the campaign, that's what were doing. together we are making tremendous progress, just a few weeks ago, as you know, u.s. special forces brought the world's number one most wanted terrorists to justice.

more important that osama bin laden, i would say, look, different in a way, he was an organizer, oh, my god, he was an organizer. the founder of isis, the father if you want to call him that of isis, wasn't so happy three weeks ago when he saw those incredible 67 men in that case come pouring down on to where he was staying, that didn't work out too good and we have a new national hero, coated is our new great hero, it was something. the animal, the founder, the leader of isis, the man that was trying to reinstitute isis, 100% in syria is now ours, he is dead.

>> we are going to pause for a moment to let our fox stations join us. this is fox news coverage of breaking news, i'm rick leventhal in new york. president trump making a surprise trip to afghanistan to celebrate thanksgiving with u.s. troops away from their families this holiday. let's listen to the president in afghanistan. the speak great people in the orange jumpsuits oftentimes standing on the beach, that was all al-baghdadi but he's gone. the american warriors hunted him down and they punched his ticket, that's what happened. shortly after, we focused on

some other elements in the area and we also started leaving the area because it's a secure but we didn't leave it totally, we kept the oil. makes sense, right? i've been saying for a long ti time, keep the oil. i used to say it with a place called iraq, too. they didn't listen to be. i was a civilian, they didn't listen. now they have to listen. we cap to the oil and we can help our partners, have it developed, that's where they got their wealth, where they got their money, we kept it. we will go back in when we have to as it arises but 100%, thousands of prisoners, they have not stepped up to the plate at all, many come from france, many come from germany, different countries in europe, they have not stepped up to the plate, we have to talk to them,

john, because they should be taking those people back and trying them. if we didn't do it they'd go back to france and back to germany and the u.k., that's where they want to go back. they should take them weeks ago we also announced that the forces are coming back home, reducing over here but because of technology and all the things we have, we are able to reduce in afghanistan very substantially and do even more devastating attacks on the enemy. so that's part of the two and a half trillion dollars we have, with the finest equipment in the world, the greatest in the world by far ahead we are equipment to many countries that are our allies. the enemies we decide usually not to do it. history has said don't sell the

good equipment to the enemy. our message to the bloodthirsty terrorist is clear, you will not escape your wretched fate because the long reach and really awesome power of the united states military. >> rick: president trump speaking to troops in afghanistan, the end of a secret journey from florida to afghanistan by the president. kevin corke who is outside the president's winter white house, what did you know about this? what can you tell us about the surprise visit? >> and deployed all around the globe, great men and women, many are coming home. >> rick: kevin corke. >> the president of the united states, it's always important to maintain operational security, that does not just extend to those involved with the trip in the planning but those of us charged with covering such trips.

very important day as you can well imagine not just for the troops on the ground over their families back home. >> rick: having experienced these kinds of trips myself and the reaction of troops on the ground there when they have someone of the president's caliber or a commander who shows up unannounced, certainly a terrific day for the troops who are away from home and their families on this holiday. >> especially on a holiday circumstance because as you well know, it's difficult enough to be serving but all the more complicated when you are away from loved ones especially on the major holidays, thanksgiving and christmas, for example. to see the president make his way there is certainly uplifting for the people on the ground. >> rick: we understand that the president also spoke of potential peace talks with the taliban and, what you know about that, kevin? >> that's a very good question, a couple things i can tell you about that, we are the president mentioned that on a previous

occasion, it is incredibly difficult sometimes to go from idea to finished product, even getting them to camp david was a challenge. the president is interested in achieving, we will see if they can actually move the needle from idea and opportunity to fruition. >> rick: kevin corke in west palm beach, thanks very much. president trump making this unannounced trip to afghanistan, a surprise trip that was kept secret for security reasons. >> julie: welk vice president mike pence visited a rock with the troops, you will remember christmas last year, the president of the united states visited iraq for the first time. the white house trying to show support for our troops overseas on this thanksgiving day. national security correspondent jennifer griffin joins us live, the very latest there. this was a very hush-hush trip

but a very significant one. >> julie, the details of how the president pulled this off are quite incredible. he took off in an undisclosed -- from an undisclosed airport in florida last night at about 7:00 p.m., the description of the play he'd had four seats in the interior, they lad did at joint base andrews at about 9:00 p.m. and took off. air force one had been kept in a hangar and was brought out, all the lights on board have been turned off, they took off for a 13 hour flight to afghanistan overnight, touched down at about 11:00 a.m. eastern time and he was greeted when he landed in afghanistan by the chairman, the joint chief already in afghanistan. he met with the president and sat down with the troops to have turkey dinner.

i am told and we heard the president say that he didn't have a lot of time to eat turkey, he got interrupted because general milley wanted him to take pictures with the troops, this was only his second time in a war zone, he's gone as you mentioned after christmas to a rack, he did make some news in terms of announcing peace talks with the taliban had been restarted, when that process had kind of gone off the rails. that had been an issue at stake with the talks with the taliban. there are 12,000 u.s. troops, in afghanistan that's come down from about 14,000 earlier this year, they expect the troop number to go further down, closer to 8,000.

the reason they can draw down is because of the hard fighting they done out there in afghanistan, julie. >> julie: jennifer, talk about the significance about first of all how dangerous it is, and how critical it is that all the plans are kept under wraps. four seats on the plane, clearly he's still in afghanistan. often times with the president traveled overseas, you don't hear about that trip until after the fact in safe there and the president is still there. clearly making very significant message today. speak on my guess is they'll be taking it off shortly. usually the feed of the video occurs as they are about to leave the country. those four seats on the plane, that was the plane up to florida, they got on board

air force one, this was a very stealthy mission, i've never seen such a mission, usually at some sort of open secret when the president flies to a war zone but this was a close hold, only a few people people at the white house knew about it. mick mulvaney traveled with him, he also had robert al bryant, the national security advisor on board with him and the senator from wyoming but it was a very small group and very few people knew about it. general milley obviously knew about it, he was on the ground in afghanistan to meet him, scotty miller who is in charge of u.s. troops there but this was designed as a way to support those troops, but given the situation on the ground in afghanistan and instability there they had to take these extreme measures.

>> julie: we don't know how they managed to seek the president of the united states out of mar-a-lago, how did they do that? maybe it's best we don't know? jennifer griffin, thank you so much. >> rick: let's bring in fox news contributor joey jones, you can talk about the impact of a visit like this on troops in a foreign land. >> when i was in iraq in 2007, we had chuck norris come cover that was the biggest name i got to experience but it means a lot to those fighting today in 2019 because with the technology we have even if you're out in this combat zone you're probably hearing a little bit about the tweets and what's in the news and having these things going on with eddie gallagher in the navy, the debacle with the taliban, to know the president still thinks about you and comes to see you on thanksgiving is a big deal, i remember when the president did go to a rock on

christmas, on christmas day the news media was saying he hasn't even been at visited the troops and then you get the speed of him being there at the same time. i don't think he gets one vote out of it, i don't think that's the purpose and i don't think it would've mattered. i think it means a lot to the men and women serving. america lives and celebrates today pretty much peacefully, we know they're there, we care about them and appreciate their sacrifice because it makes a difference in our lives. >> rick: the president did speak to these ongoing taliban and talks, we will see if they want to make a big deal. is it even possible or smart to try to make a deal? >> you know, i can give you a lot of opinions, i can opine on it but only a handful of people know and some of those people are in the taliban. they have outlasted the russians, they've outlasted us.

the different warlords in that area, the country itself is not geographically suited, they do not have a national identity, what causes them to be at odds with one another and the rest of the world, strategic positioning between us and rush other natural resources. what makes afghanistan function it's a question that has yet to be answered. the control we believe it has, may have to sit down at a table with them and i if their purpose is to have an islamic state that hosts bad actors i don't see how we can ever have any type of meaningful talks with them. >> rick: the headline here, joey jones, is that the that the president of the united states made a surprised and unannounced visit to afghanistan to meet with u.s. troops on the ground on this thanksgiving holiday, he

served some meals and made some remarks there and we believe he is now back on air force one on his way back to the united states for his own holiday weekend. this is a 13 hour flight for the president from florida to afghanistan. and a well-kept secret which is not always easy to do when you have media involved and others involved in the process. >> i think it's absolutely wonderful, i really do. i think this is the president at its best, showing up surprise, unannounced on thanksgiving at an air base, that's a president doing with the president should do, showing those men and women who may die tomorrow, and that is a legitimate concern, that we believe in them and we support them and we won't leave them alone and afraid and that's something i will not say president obama ever made us feel that way but we did not feel the love i would say the way we have with this president and i really appreciate that. i remember being there in 2010

and finding out months after i got there that president obama was telling the world we were going to pull out or leave and i remember how that felt that i would say today feels the opposite for those men and women and i appreciate that and think the president for it. >> rick: joey jones, once again, thank you for your service, happy thanksgiving. >> thank you, happy holidays. >> julie: fox radio chief white house correspondent and attorney john decker joining us live in washington with more. what if you got for us? >> as we've heard already, this is one of those types of trips which has really been kept under wraps, i had an opportunity just a week ago with vice president mike pence, his secret trip to iraq, i was one of the report is invited on that particular trip and they had to keep everything very hush-hush to say the least because there's a very small group of reporters, 13 altogether that travel with the president or travel with the vice president in that

particular case, for one of the secret trips to a war zone. afghanistan is one of those war zones that the president up until now had not visited before. as you mentioned earlier he visited iraq the day after christmas last year, this is his first trip to afghanistan. >> julie: can you compare it for us? how were these trips any different? >> they are happening at a time when the troops are thinking about their families, obviously, they are away from their families sometimes for a significant amount of time, and to get a visit from the president means so much to these troops, we saw the reaction the troops gave to the president when he is making those remarks, that's typically the reaction that the commander in chief gets

with the president makes one of the secret trips. >> julie: he recently had pardoned a couple military folks who would spend some time behind bars and now he's out there communicating with the troops on the ground in afghanistan. what does that say about his relationship with our air force? as you know there's been a lot of heat surrounding his decisions made in syria by pulling troops out of there, so i call abandoning the kurds, rather, what would you say will be the reaction for the military community on this? >> the troops that are on the ground there were not thinking about the pardons the president has recently given to a number of military personnel, they are thinking, quite frankly, they are pleased that the president's right there serving them turkey, saying those kind words to them and showing his appreciation for them. but also keep in mind, the president has spoken quite often about bringing down the force levels in afghanistan.

there are 15,000 combined u.s. and nato forces serving in afghanistan and the president wants to bring that number down significantly, the president as you know even before he ran for president seems to be reluctant to have the u.s. involved in military incursions and has spoken quite often about the war in afghanistan needs to draw itself down. >> julie: john decker, thank you very much for joining us on this breaking news, thank you. >> rick: the economy is booming, what is it mean that an arts and crafts giant is closing all its brick-and-mortar stores nationwide? we will have that story next. ♪ great riches will find you when liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. wow. thanks, zoltar. how can i ever repay you?

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speech of those iconic giant balloons at the macy's thanksgiving day parade to fly after all today but not as high as usual because of the windy weather. brian, i know you had a front row seat at the parade today. >> rick, happy thanksgiving, that's right. this parade is incredible, i recommend anybody in the united states, one time at least. it was a game-time decision for the nypd but ultimately they gave the green light for the 16 iconic character balloons to apply in the macy's thanksgiving day parade. high winds threaten to ground those iconic balloons for the first time since 1971. after a woman was seriously injured by a balloon in 1997, the city enacted some rules and said that if winds exceeded the 2023 miles per hour 34-mile-an-hour gusts those balloons to be ground up at today the national weather service said the winds were about 30 miles per hour at 32 miles per hour so it was fairly close call but ultimately

those balloons were up in the air. the brand-new astronaut snoopy balloon made its debut, joining others like the red power ranger, pikachu, paul patrol, performances by the black eyed peas, kelly rowland and celine dion. we have some sad news to report, the iconic ronald mcdonald, standing at 67 feet tall, that balloon actually suffered an injury, a tear to its left leg about midway through the parade route and caused it to be partially deflated and they had to take ronald mcdonald off the parade route before it could finish. we will give you an update as soon as we get one on ronald's condition and whether or not it was rent related but take a look at this, this is a live view outside of the fox studio as you can see, plenty of tourists are still on the sidewalks and each one of those giant balloons handled by about 90 people handling those giant balloons and there is no supervisor

assigned to each one of those balloons, they were monitoring the wind but all in all the wind was fine and the weather was much better than last year, last year was a record cold thanksgiving day parade. i was there and i'm happy to report that this year's was much nicer. happy thanksgiving to you and to everyone back home. beautiful day. >> rick: you had me for a second there when you said you had sad news to report and i saw the flow with the terror and its foot. >> julie: spoken like a real reporter. >> rick: i don't think it was sad. >> julie: ronald mcdonald is a legend in this parade. >> rick: i mean, it's a balloon. >> julie: a thanksgiving day holiday balloon, it's a big deal but they were able to fly these balloons. i was pretty sure they would

fly. >> rick: it's not the same when they are low like that. when they are 50 feet in the air and 50 feet tall, 100-foot ceiling, that's something. they were flying the right above the street, i don't know. >> julie: see, it is a big deal. while lots of signs are pointing to a strong economy, there are some trouble spots. with a seymour becoming the latest brick-and-mortar chain to crumble, announcing this week it's closing all 145 of its arts and craft stores. the trump administration shelling out billions of dollars to bail out the agriculture industry to help farmers hit by the china trade war. joining us now, steve moore, thank you for joining us, happy thanksgiving. the trump administration spent $28 billion earlier this year to bailout the agriculture industry, arguably hit the hardest by the china trade war. while these payments continue to the new year until a full trade

deal is reached? >> this is a blockbuster economy, we have so much to be thankful for right now, lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, lowest inflation, 7 million surplus jobs so it is a really good economy for american workers with rising incomes. i just got to get that out because it's a great time to celebrate. now, you ask the question about the farmers, no question farmers have been hurting this year, especially farmers in the midwest and you're also right that this trade war with china has really put a dent in some of the international sails of our farmers. the most important thing is to pass the u.s. i think had it i had in mexico trade agreement but also getting the trade deal done with china is hugely important for america's farmers and ranchers and technology companies as well. >> julie: you talk about the economy, the best economy we've

seen in 25 years, that is all great. we've got to talk about farmers a little more, some big retailers as well that are hurting. how important is it for the president to get this deal done? >> really important and this is -- they are getting very close. are you talking about getting the u.s.-canada mexico-trade agreement or the china trade agreement? >> julie: china. >> i thought that the president took a really courageous stand to assign that resolution condemning what's happening in hong kong and really standing with the freedom fighters. but that has antagonize the leaders in beijing who feel like this is a domestic affair we shouldn't be sticking our nose into defending freedom fighters but that -- we will see whether that plays into these negotiations as they go forward in the weeks ahead. >> julie: a look at big box

stores are close to 2019, over 9300 of them suffered. even in the midst of all of this ad these box store closings, the consumers continue to spend. this christmas season it's going to be a very good one despite the fact that as rick mentioned we've got six days left of shopping. i don't know about you but i'm having anxiety attacks over it. the spending season nonetheless minus six days is going to help a lot of these businesses. people are spending despite these numbers. >> you're absolutely right and there are four or five major retailers that basically announced that they don't have really good christmas seasons, they do so much of their business in the next four weeks, that some of these major retailers may have to fold. so it is critical period. it was also announced in the last day or two that amazon is going to hire something like

100,000 additional workers for this christmas season. i think a big increase in employment, too. the answer your question is what's happening is we are seeing a shift in the economy. there's no question that retailers are getting hurt by the online shoppers, it's much more convenient for people to just click and purchase things. i do like to go into the shops and see the stuff on the aisles and buy it and get it packaged and get it all wrapped up. >> julie: you got to keep businesses in business, that's how you do it. >> i think the rumors of the death of the retail industry are a little over exaggerated, i think a lot of the most efficient retail companies are going to continue to stay in business. >> julie: steve moore, thank you very much, happy thanksgiving again. >> you, too, thank you. >> rick: more on our top story this hour, president trump

making a surprise, unannounced trip to afghanistan on this thanksgiving day to spend time with troops at bagram airfield in afghanistan. you can see the president there dishing some food onto the plates of the soldiers and marines and others i believe who are serving there. we can listen in for a moment here to this tape that was fed to us by the travel pool. >> thank you. >> rick:e president trump there in afghanistan. we will be right back. four years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, if your inflammatory bowel disease

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>> rick: air force one, we are told, is no wheels up from afghanistan on its way back to the united states. the president as you see their served troops some thanksgiving meals and spoke to about 500

folks there at the bagram airfield in afghanistan. a surprise visit kept under wraps successfully until the president was on the ground and speaking to the troops and know we are told the president's impact on his way back to the united states. after serving dinner to troops in afghanistan. >> julie: don't you know it, the holidays are here faster than ever had with black friday and cyber monday ahead of us, watch out for porch pirates. evan lambert from our washington, d.c., affiliate explains what a is a porch pirates and how to avoid becoming a victim. >> today a lot of people have these doorbell cameras, you think it would prevent package theft but we've seen package thieves hard at work. d.c. managed to not be on the list of most targeted cities. porch pirates have targeted communities all across the dmv about the holiday season presents even more opportunity. >> have you ever had a package

stolen? >> i did not but my neighbor did. >> we spent a few minutes asking people if they've been visited by package thieves and it wasn't hard to find victims. >> i'm sitting outside on the porch just resting and i go back inside after the package was delivered, i come back outside about 20 minutes later, the package is gone. >> somebody stole it from my front porch and i never got to see those things and it was pretty heartbreaking and i don't think people should take things from other people's houses even if it's not inside the house. >> the top four metro area's most targeted by package helpers include san francisco, salt lake city, portland, oregon, and baltimore. d.c. was number six on a similar list last year. here's how you can avoid losing packages. >> if you are able to leave specific instructions with the delivery service online, do that, that could help save you the package theft if you're able to leave your packages behind a

flowerpot or find shrubbery, that will help prevent any package theft. >> our neighbors to the north and baltimore were on the top ten list so if you have family and friends up that way, warn them that porch pirates have been active. back to you. >> julie: never lambert, thank you. >> julie>> rick: if you haven'tt down yet, you will be pretty soon for your holiday dinner and things have been known to get controversial around the table at this time so let's talk about how you can make the most of your thanksgiving meal with loved ones and avoid some of the pitfalls. a psychotherapist and relationship expert joins us live. what are the dos and don'ts? >> i think if you go in and you're going to talk about politics, it's important not to prove you are right and to listen with an open mind. there was a study that found that when people talk politics during thanksgiving dinner it can get very contentious very

quickly, so some people have a political free zone and others like to dive in. know your audience. >> rick: people talk about the three f's on thanksgiving, food, football, and family. >> here's the good news. if you find you're talking about politics and it's getting nasty, have divergent in mind. if you look at family facebook information and get people talking about themselves, it's very hard to get them off of themselves which is a good thing. that's a great way to segue away from politics, i saw your hair cut and it looked amazing, where do you go? that will definitely change the dynamic. >> rick: not with my brother-in-law. i want to read a quote from "the new york times" editorial about this topic. "the key to persuasive political dialogue is creating safe and

welcoming space for diverse views with a compassionate spirit. active listening and personal storytelling. >> absolutely correct, i think when we get into a space where we need to impose our opinion on others, you have to know who you're dealing with and don't expect the people at your table to be any different than who they are. if you listen with curiosity it's going to be a much more interesting conversation. we can all talk to people who have the same opinion and it's an echo chamber but if you really want to hear diverse information, allow people to talk, you don't always have to take the bait and you'll feel relieved. >> it strikes me that we've never been this fractured as a society and i'm just wondering, can't you just say no politics at the table? politics are forbidden at this dinner table during this meal. >> you certainly can, some hosts decide to have an area where people can talk about politics.

>> rick: i've read that, set up a separate room with snacks. >> but i think politics is a little bit like the weather, it has a reality tv kind of component to it so i think people like to hear themselves talk and like to hear what other people have to say especially if they are all in agreement. >> rick: you're saying the key to keeping the peace is to being a good listener. >> be open-minded, don't prove you are right, listen with curiosity and bury be very deliberate before you walk into any room, take the high road, have a sense of humor and be grateful. >> rick: be ready to change the subject, divert. >> "aunt sally, i like your hair." >> rick: aunt sally does have nice hair. and so do you. >> you do, too.

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>> happy thanksgiving. phones are part of the talk line, we certainly have evolved with technology, you can reach us via email, chat, live text, visit the butterball web site for a lot of how-to videos, we've partnered with alexa's if you have alexa in your kitchen you can say alexa, ask butterball, how do i thought my 20-pound turkey? a lot of good information out there. >> rick: rick leventhal with a question regarding these alleged butterball turkey talk line experts, who are they, what is their expertise? >> we started out 39 years ago with a mere five home economists, all women back then, they housed all their information on an old-school rolodex. 39 years later there's 50 of us, i have personally been on the talk line for 18 years. we have men that answer the phones and it's a seasonal position for our team. outside of these november and december months we are

maintaining full-time jobs in different food areas, registered dietitians, hole teachers, food stylists, we have stan, a retired food scientist. a lot of food knowledge. >> rick: nicole, what's the most common question? >> the question we are getting right now, earlier this morning, we've been open since six in the morning now. was how to thaw your turkey. the questions we're seeing right now, how do i tell when my turkey is done? your best friend on thanksgiving day. >> rick: how you how do you know? >> your best friend on thanksgiving day is your meat thermometer. >> julie: my mom actually cooks it the night before and it goes, i checked the oven, she started last night and takes it out at 3:00 in the afternoon, a slow cooked. there is that, too.

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we thought he was spending thanksgiving, kevin. >> this is what we call operational security or maybe a secret journey but by any measure it was certainly a welcome surprise for them any troops there on the ground in afghanistan. for those of us, i know you have, who have had an opportunity to be a part of something like this, the troops never forget. it's a chance for him to also reach out to leaders on the ground. it's so important to call the cultivate that bilateral relationship between the u.s. and leaders on the ground in places like afghanistan but more importantly for this particular holiday a chance to see the troops as they were able to spend part of this important holiday with a commander in chief, a holiday where a great many of them of course are away from their friends and family. part of the president's remarks not terribly long ago not 13 hours away from where we are right now. >> i want to thank all of the afghanistan he and troops, we

have a lot of them here, a number of them standing around, saying hello and waiting and we appreciated and i say to you, at ease, let's enjoy ourselves for a couple of minutes. there is nowhere i'd rather celebrate this thanksgiving than right here with the toughest, strongest, best and bravest warriors. >> in many respects it was sort of what we expect to see in circumstances like this, you see the photos and good-natured banter back and forth, the commander in chief gets a chance to serve the troops himself but i think what was different in this particular circumstance as he wanted to make certain that they understood that you're not just their serving on behalf of your country in behalf of those who serve in uniform with you, you are missed not just by her family but by the american family. a great day thus far for the commander in chief and certainly for the cheap gmac troops on the ground and as we get more details about the trip i

promised to pass them along but for now back to you. >> rick: thank you so much, kevin corke dow down in west pam beach. >> julie: jennifer griffin reporting live from the pentagon. hi, jennifer. >> during the surprise visit by the president to thank the troops serving in afghanistan, the president made newest by announcing that talks with the taliban are back on. >> with al qaeda, a very small number and the taliban and wants to make ideal, we will see if they make ideal. if they do they do and if they don't, they don't. >> those talks ended abruptly earlier this year after a series of taliban attacks and an offer from the president to invite the taliban leaders to talk at camp david. the afghan government was also angry that they had been shut out of those talks. it's not clear if or how they will be included this time. most agree that talking to the taliban and is the only way to end america's longest war.

the president has made no secret of the fact that he wants to bring the troops home but a sudden pullout could have dramatic consequences. there are still 12,000 u.s. troops deployed to afghanistan, 5,000 in iraq and 500 and neighboring syria. since may, the pentagon has added 14,000 troops to the middle east. as a backdrop to the resumption of talks with the taliban, a dramatic prisoner exchange nine days ago in which the taliban released two hostages including american professor kevin king and australian timothy leaks in exchange the afghan government released some members of the taliban's network, american kevi kevin king has ben captivity since 2016. his family has a lot to give thanks for with his release. the prisoner exchange signaled the taliban was ready to talk peace again. the president told the troops today that their hard fighting was the reason the taliban was

again ready to talk. julie? >> julie: jennifer griffin, thank you. >> rick: let's bring in michael cento, an economist that focuses on international relations. your reaction to the resumption's of peace talks with the enemy in america's longest war? >> i think it's actually a good move. in terms of obviously they are the enemy because of their role in 9/11 but i have to emphasize, those terrorist attacks were largely orchestrated by arab groups like al qaeda and we have an ongoing problem with isis, the taliban and harvard al qaeda, so i think i always felt like the core of the issue actually really was in the arab world and that's a complex issue. i think that we had to focusing on counterterrorism as one of our key priorities. >> rick: what is the likelihood of reaching a deal and the likelihood of the taliban and sticking to a deal

they reached? >> they do have extreme religious beliefs and they are not the most reliable partners in discussing that i would distinguish them with other groups they've aligned within the past that are hard-core terrorists, targeting the united states and want to see our destruction so because afghanistan is a very large, unwieldy country it's not a bad idea to negotiate with them but not in way that would question our ability to stick with our allies in afghanistan around the world. >> rick: i think if we've learned anything it's that the taliban and can't be trusted and how do you punish them if they don't hold up their end of the bargain? >> our military is by far the most powerful military in the world, we can hit them very hard and we can hit terrorists anywhere in the world in fact but i have to emphasize a strategic issue that's a cause

of a great deal of concern for me, counterintuitively our military is very overstrained, people hear our military budget is so large and assume we have enough resources. it's overstrained and we are facing serious threats to the united states, our allies, and global interests so we have to be very careful here and that's why i don't think it's necessarily a bad idea to negotiate with the taliban but you know, as far as other terrorist groups, i'm not certain the taliban needs to be the focus -- limit to the military resources. >> rick: this also gets complicated because of the poppy industry, the key ingredient in heroin and the taliban has been using this for decades to line their pockets. the logic has been, you can't destroy those poppy crops because you wind up doing severe harm to the local farmers who have no choice but to grow the poppies of the taliban comes after them and their families.

if you wipe out the poppy crop, you hurt the locals and you need the local support bump in the meantime the taliban is fueling the drug industry and how do you handle that piece of this puzz puzzle? >> that's part of a global picture, by the way. drug shipments throughout the world, obviously afghanistan is a major source of the heroin industry and you are exactly right, in order to win back our counterinsurgency we had to deal with economics and we do need to try to give them a better livelihood. but the link between the global drug trade and terrorists and organized crime is not just limited to the taliban. and that's a struggle. our mistake after defeating -- after the soviet union pulled out was to let afghanistan, whatever happened happened and let the taliban takeover in the first place. we should not disengage, i just

don't necessarily think the taliban is the core of national security threats at this time. but if they mess with the united states they need to understand that we will be able to destroy their forces anywhere in afghanistan around the world. >> rick: does that have to be part of the threat if you don't cooperate with us, we are going to wipe out your bread and butter? and should we be doing it anyw anyway? >> it's part of our toolbox that we use but there are bigger threats out there, the russians having nuclear weapons, we are dealing with a lot of threats globally, everyone hears our military budget is greater than the rest of the world combined but we also have the world's largest economy and the military is in fact overstrained. we see this in cases with ships colliding partly because our military is overstrained. we might actually counterintuitively have to increase our military budget if

anything because we are the global superpower. but yes, if you are dealing with players that are not entirely good, the threat of the use of military force is important. any restructuring over deployment has to be done in a thoughtful manner that's done with a good strategy so we are able to move forces back into the places we need to. but my general take on our war against terrorism which taliban was a part of is that they are not necessarily central to this. we've got bin laden kicked out of sudan in the late '90s, he went back to afghanistan, not necessarily happily. i'm not sure the taliban is monolithically against the united states. it's why we have threats globally and we can't necessarily have huge military presence is everywhere the terrorists could move in. >> rick: michael, i don't know if you can do it, yes or no but do you think there will be ideal

made here with the taliban? >> i think there's a potential for sure and thank you. >> rick: we appreciate your time today. well, protesters in hong kong holding a thanksgiving rally, julie. >> julie: they are urging the world to follow america's lead after president trump finds two bills supporting human rights on the island, more civil rights transparency and democracy, less interference from mainland china and investigations into just how police have handled the protests. but american support for hong kong angering officials in beijing, they summoned u.s. ambassador terry branstad and warned this could make it harder to work with washington as the countries are trying to cut a deal. benjamin hall reporting live, hi, benjamin. >> good afternoon. this bill president trump signed

yesterday has infuriated china. they've often said they believed the u.s. to be behind the protests, stoking the protesters and what this bill does is effectively gives u.s. backing to those same protesters. the first mark effectively bans the export of teargas, pepper spray, rubber bullets and stun guns to about hong kong police. the other potentially more significant one requires that the state department at least once a year certify that hong kong retains enough autonomy from china to justified its favorable u.s. trading terms and sanctions for human rights violations. president trump expand his decisions, saying "i signed these bills out of respect for president g, china, and the people of hong kong. they are being enacted in the hopes that leaders and representatives of china and hong kong will be able to amicably settle their differences leading to long-term peace and prosperity for all." but if you say china, quickly summoned to the u.s. ambassador

telling them to stop meddling in hong kong affairs, warning that such actions with strained ties just as the nations are getting close to signing a phase one trade deal. china also threatens retaliation. but on the streets of hong kong, protesters celebrated, waving hundreds of american flags and holding up signs thinking president trump. the president had been undecided about whether to back this bill mainly because of the delicate trade negotiations but after overwhelming bipartisan support in the house and the senate yesterday, he signed it. it does remain to be seen what kind of reciprocal response the chinese might take and if things can affect that phase one trade deal but certainly this ratchets up tensions between the two countries. direct? >> julie: i will take it. benjamin hall, thank you very much. >> rick: i'll take this, the feds busting up with a are calling a sophisticated drug ring run by ups workers. investigators say it went on for at least a decade.

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texas won't be able to have thanksgiving dinner at home today because fires are still burning after massive explosions at a chemical plant about 100 miles east of houston happened yesterday. christina coleman has more on this. christina? >> rex, three people were injured from that explosion and more explosions could take place today as result of that initial blast. shooting into the air during the fire, the first explosion happened at tpc group's operations i.d. staff houston around 1:00 a.m. early wednesday morning. it rattled houses and ripped through the facility causing a second blast that shot that

tower into the air. more than 20 local, state, and federal agencies are working to mitigate this incident as roughly 50,000 people are still under that evacuation order this thanksgiving day. >> thanksgiving dinner, food, clothes for maybe a couple days. >> they're taking us in and probably taking some other people in, too. just in case, it's better to be safe than sorry. >> julie: this chemical plant produces more than 900 million pounds of material a year including gas used for a variety of synthetic material like rubber and nylon. about 200 people work at the facility but roughly 40 were at the plan at the time of the explosion. it's unclear when that evacuation order will be lifted. >> given the gravity of the threat that exists based on the engineering that was done on the potential explosion area, we felt it was appropriate that a t

be evacuated. >> julie: right now, state environmental officials are monitoring the air quality around the chemical plant and while they see the smoke is not a danger to the public at this time, they are still requesting the cdc come in and assess any potential health risks. rick? >> rick: i'd be worried after seeing that smoke and the explosion. the video is just incredible. christina coleman, thanks so much for that. >> julie: nasty weather made roads and airports quite a mess this week, causing headaches for thanksgiving travelers but what about your journey home? you want to get there at some point, right? let's check in with the very latest on what's going on. hey, lauren. >> hi, julie, happy thanksgiving to you. tricky travels for millions going home from the southwest of the northeast. we will start you out in the southwest, powerful counterclockwise swirls, this is

where it all begins. the rest of thursday night, 1-3 inches of total rainfall for southern california. higher amounts is always with the mountain snow. we switch forward in time, the next couple of days, through the upper midwest and western great lakes. interstates 29 and 94, road conditions are going to be an ice rink especially any untreated surfaces adding friday through saturday. here's a breakdown of the timeline as that makes a push, widespread accumulating swath of significant snowfall from the upper plains to the western great lakes. bull's-eye, your accuweather local storm more than a couple feet of accumulating snow with lake effect accumulating snow near the duluth. that's also going to cause major traveling issues. rapid city conditions will really go down hill beginning morning.

folks are going to be out and about with that black friday shopping. 12-24 inches expected in duluth, that was one of the bull's-eye areas. saturday night and into sunday, that same storm system is going to make a push into the northeast region. stay locked right here on on fox news for more weather forecasts. julie? >> julie: lauren, thank you very much. >> rick: the timing is the worst on that, it's horrible. >> julie: i know. >> rick: you don't want to drive in that, do you? >> julie: we got to stay at work, who wants to go anywhere? stay home is what i say. >> rick: more later on that. shocking and unprecedented, that's how the former navy secretary is describing president trump's decision to get in th involved in the case f navy seal eddie gallagher. we will talk about it with political strategist from both sides of the aisle coming up next. are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®.

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>> rick: police in alabama say they found the remains of a missing college student. forensic officials confirmed the death of 19-year-old aniyah blanchard. she was last seen at an alabama gas station in october. police say the remains were found in a wooded area about 40 miles east of montgomery. u.s. marshals arrested a suspect in florida, he's charged with kidnapping and being held without bail. two other people face charges connected to the team's disappearance. >> julie: former navy secretary richard spencer now slamming president trump's decision to get involved in eddie gallagher's case. >> rick: "this was shocking and unprecedented intervention and a reminder that the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military and fight

ethically or be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices." let's bring in our panel. republican strategist, senior advisor and former political director to the republican party of texas. steve oversho radio talk show hr chief strategist for georgia's democratic party. spencer called president trump's intervention in war crimes case both "shocking" and "unprecedented." approximately 20,000 pardons were issued by u.s. presidents in the 20th century alone. how does pardoning a war criminal, i guess, different when you look at history? >> well, they are war criminals and we typically as our country don't get involved in lower-level offenses, especially talking about individuals who

have committed crimes during times of war. let's be very clear about why president trump did this in the first place. he did this because of right-wing activists who were saying that this war criminal and other convicted war criminals were being treated unfairly so he decided to get involved. there was no nobility here, this is the same president who believes the central park five are still guilty, whistle-blowers deserve no protection, he said famed individuals, i don' see -- it is politically motivated, evidenced by the report that he now wants the famed war criminals to campaign with him in 2020 for his presidential election. >> rick: i'm pretty sure he is going to disagree with what you just said. >> first off we had to put in context, gallagher did go to trial, he was only convicted on one issue which was taking a photo with a dead taliban. when we use the term "war

criminal" we make it sound like it's worse than what he actually was convicted for end the reality is this isn't unprecedented, presidents as far back as george washington have pardoned military individuals and the former navy secretary spencer to come out and say the president doesn't understand rules or procedures, it's interesting because he was fired for circumventing his rules and procedures and going around his direct superiors indirectly to the white house. in the end he was the one that actually broke the rules and procedures and we all know that in order for rules and procedures to work they have to be followed every time. there's nowhere else in the world that's more important than in the united states military. i think he was able to make his case and make his point in the article but in the end it comes out flat because he was the one that actually circumvented the rules and procedures of the u.s. military. >> rick: the question here and what critics are saying is this sense the wrong message to the

military. gentleman? >> the message i would say -- i think this sends the right message which is if you want to actually make changes, you have to follow the correct rules and procedures, going to your direct superior, your direct superior can g go to the defense secreta, et cetera, to the president of the united states. the constitution article gives the president of the united states the authority as commander in chief and the ultimate decider of these decisions and it's not up to the secretary of the navy regardless of who it is to make these decisions. when the president gives a direct order, they need and must be followed every time. >> can we take this out of the context of legality? nobody is arguing that what president trump did isn't illegal, he is the commander in chief. the argument is is it right, is it ethical, does it's the proper message? not only to other troops who may want to be renegades but also to the troops who want to make sure

they follow the law and how we are respected in this globalized marketplace of military. this does not send the proper message, it sends the adversarial message to what the united states actually stands for and that is the problem with this president, that's why even though we have an economy where 68% of the america public, theyk the economy is strong, he can't get approval ratings out of the low 40s because he gets in the way of his own messaging. it is a disgrace, happy thanksgiving to every soldier who serves this country honorably and let's dismiss rules just for a minute because our country is better because men and women stood up against rules that were oppressive. >> julie: we have a look at the president's intentions here. when we talk about a war criminal like any gallagher we are talking about someone whose homicide charges he was acquitted of, the murder charges did not stick. basically he was accused of taking a picture with an isis fighter.

if you are overseas and you're putting your life on the line and you're killing these terrorists who want us dead and you are proud of it, you shouldn't take a picture, no, but does not necessarily make you a war criminal? don't take the picture but is that enough? do you believe he should spend time behind bars? do you think that crime would merit him actually spending time? >> he did spend time behind bars already, there are multiple offenses, not just of murder which by the way another navy seal said he witnessed that individual stabbed another man in the neck. he testified to that end he was also charged with attempted murder on other civilians. well yes, the military jury did convicted of a lesser crime which we believe was a compromise, at the same time, he was demoted, he was kicked out and the president of the united states wanted him to leave as an honorable individual and i don't think he deserves

that given what he did. >> julie: all right. thank you very much for both of you coming on on this thanksgiving. >> rick: it's important that we remind our viewers that eddie gallagher served eight tours of duty as a navy seal. >> julie: the psychological warfare that goes on for these troops, we don't know. >> rick: we don't know what he had to do in doing his duty and serving his country overseas. >> julie: i inc. that should be taken into account but i believe that is what the president did. his granddaughter died after falling from his arms and out of a cruiseship window, it's a horrific story and now he's giving his first interview that says maybe a medical problem we have not heard of until now could be to blame. what it is, we are going to tell you next. ♪ if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream.

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>> julie: a man from indiana says his colorblindness may have played a role in his toddler granddaughters deadly fall from a cruiseship. he says he thought the tinted window he put her near was closed. the family's attorney is saying it was all an accident. >> he thinks it's all glass, there is a wood railing right there, he puts her up on their thinking she's going to bang on the glass and it's going to be great. she goes to bang on the glass in the next thing he knows, she's gone. >> julie: it happened while the ship is docked in puerto rico, the grandfather is being charged with negligent homicide. let's bring in a criminal defense attorney. this story is so horrifying on so many levels, a received national attention from the beginning for what it was, a terrible accident according to the family and the grandfather initially said he didn't know the window was open. for the first time we are hearing that colorblindness might have been the cause. how does that affect this case? >> julie, happy thanksgiving, by

the way. speaking of thanksgiving, i'm relieved that the grandfather's lawyer is not trying to raise some silly defense, this is a legitimate defense. he has medical documentation that he is color-blind. you have to show that their grandfather was aware that the conduct he was engaging in, letting the little girl up on the wood shelf would have possibly led to her death. what he's saying is that was a tinted window, i couldn't tell the difference, i didn't think the window was open and this is an absolute accident. it really is going to help his case. >> julie: has a defense like this ever been used before? >> i have not heard of color-blind being i defense before. i've heard of things like walking in your sleep defense, but this is news to me. but let me tell you about another issue, julie, that's going to come up in this case and i find puerto rican officials prosecuting him to be a little bit suspicious because

they also have to prove that his actions actually caused the death of the little girl. what is lawyers are already arguing in a civil case is that the failure to have a warning sign out there, do not have kids up on that ledge, warning sign that the windows can open really is the legal cause of the child tragically dying as opposed to the grandfather's conduct. i think that's going to come into play as well. >> julie: the grandfather says the outcome of this trial doesn't matter because it is in the girl was the worst thing ever. this family has suffered so much already, the parents even stand behind the grandfather who clearly loves his granddaughter dearly and he is paying the price for the rest of his life. what is likely to happen in this case? and do you believe that negligent homicide charges are going too far? >> absolutely, julie. usually in criminal cases where the victim does not want to

press charges, prosecutors don't press charges. especially when a young little toddler is dead in the grandfather is grieving as well as the family. you have to ask yourself, why is he being prosecuted? maybe because this carnival cruise lines brings a lot of tourists into puerto rico, they rely on that, but at the end of the day i don't think a prosecutor is going to be able to win this case for the reasons i stated. he didn't know that window was open, he is color-blind and it wasn't his actions that cause this death. >> julie: no culpability on behalf of the cruise line? >> that's an interesting point, that's why i think if i was representing the grandfather i would delay the criminal trial is much as possible because there's been a civil lawsuit filed by the mom of the little girl against the cruise line. i would develop deposition testimony from the cruise line officials in the civil case and use that in the criminal case to prove that the improper warning signs, the way that window was

was negligent and that was the cause of the death. >> julie: the fact that the window was open, period, i don't understand why you need a balcony to have an open window when you are at sea. thank you very much, appreciate it. >> you bet. thanks, julie. >> rick: the spirit of thanksgiving makes its way up to the international space station. american astronauts show us how they are celebrating and how you cook a turkey in space. is the n ecotank color printer. no more buying cartridges. big ink tanks. lots of ink. print about... this many pages. the epson ecotank. just fill and chill.

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♪ >> rick: i bet you never celebrated thanksgiving in spa space. >> julie: no, not yet. >> rick: some people did. their family and friends may be back on earth but that didn't stop astronauts from enjoying the holiday. giving thanks before digging into some thanksgiving space food. the menu included candied yams, mac and cheese, corn bread, cranberry sauce and turkey in a pouch. and since there is zero gravity in space, if you are of food, you can float right over to the place where you don't even lie down, you just float. so that sort of defeats the food, thing, maybe. >> julie: but in space i guess

you can just sleep and flow. does that mean you don't get heavy? you can eat all you want, you won't feel that bloat. >> rick: i'm guessing the turkey in a pouch isn't that tasty. >> julie: the turkey, is the worst. strong winds didn't stop the macy's thanksgiving balloons from flying but they had to stay a little lower than usual. reporting live from new york city, hey, ryan. >> a perfect day, the 16 giant iconic character balloons can soar as high as 65 feet above new york city but today they were flown much closer to the ground. about 10 feet above the ground because of the winds. i know rick mentioned earlier that it's not quite the same when the balloons can't soar nearly as high and i think he's right. there is an element that was lost today but at the end of the day the bottom line is, the balloons flew and that is good news. it was a beautiful day today, the nypd making the call this morning to allow them to fly. under city rules, the balloons would've had to be grounded if

sustained winds exceeded 23 miles per hour gusts exceeded 34 miles per hour. gusts did reach 32 miles per hour today, not enough to have them grounded. the last time the balloons were grounded for weather was 1971. the brand-new astronauts new people who made its debut this year as well as the green eggs and ham balloon, joining others like the trolls, red power ranger, pikachu and ending with santa claus. >> it was her first time ever seeing the parade even though we are new yorkers. seeing it through a child's eyes is always enjoyable. >> our son play trump and the band so it's great to be here and support them as well and all the band members, a lot of practice goes into being able to come out and put on that presentation. >> each giant character balloon are controlled by nypd supervisors assigned to each balloon to monitor the wind. there are seven anemometer's, wind measurers along the parade

route. there was one incident with the iconic ronald mcdonald balloon, a 67-foot tall balloon had to be pulled off the roof because of a small tear in its left leg, it was partially deflated. but luckily it reached half of the parade route so some people were able to see it. i spoke to macy's and they said it wasn't really weather rated trelated today, but aestheticaly it didn't look that great. >> julie: it looked great from here, from the studio. we did get to see it for about d enjoy the view? >> rick: 30 seconds. >> julie: bah humbug, rick. maybe next year. >> rick: i'm such a grouch. a text message mishap created an accidental thanksgiving tradition. >> julie: and there is a fairy godmother we need to tell you about for anybody struggling to whip up a perfect turkey dinner. we will meet one of the voices at the other end of the butterball hotline. ♪

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to strangers. >> i love that story. >> four thanksgivings in a row. >> are you up to your eyes and stuffing and caplets? >> is that liver parts? >> our next guest has been working the hotline for years. she's helped thousands of cooks avoid thanksgiving day disaster. not all heroes were capes. >> somewhere i wear once a year. >> are the lines burning up with colors? >> we started at 5:00 a.m. central time. on the east coast, they are calling about storing their turkey leftovers. in chicago, they are singular to each. endeavor, they are testing your turkeys if it's done.

in the west coast, they are just putting their turkey on the barbecue, sitting around the pool. we watch it march over the country. all different questions. all stages of the cooking process. >> my sister told me, they have two ovens and one fails. they had to take the second turkey and put on the grill. >> that's my favorite fourth of july thanksgiving perfect on the grill. >> what about the prior? you hear of these accidents that happen. a lot of people like to fry their turkeys. >> you have to be careful. everyone has to put their fingers up and give the honor that they are to read. the output of frozen turkey. thaw it completely. many questions. we have answer to that question.

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