this summer and located 200 the local charities, that's it for today, have a great week and we will see you next fox sunday for the next revolutionox sunday for ♪ ♪ ♪ hello america, i marked live in. this is live, liberty and live in. we have a great guest, welcome mike. were not doing an infomercial. i wanted you on the program because you have a fascinating background. i think it could affect a lot of our audience members. you're a big trump supporter, your made in deep christian faith and an entrepreneur and you were a drug addict.

>> yes. >> a crackhead. explain that to me. >> well, it goes back to childhood when my parents got divorced and i became put into a new school and became very shy where i would show off to people and do little things like watch me jump out this bus window and it manifested into using alcohol first and then i got into cocaine. >> how old were you? >> probably late teens, 16, 17 and my five year reunion and others were graduating college or starting families or with the same employer and i'm there and i wanted what they want and i mauled drunk and using mafia money for football bets or jumping out of an

airplane with a parachute partially opening in all these stories which were true, but i didn't want to hear what they did because i wanted what they had. it became a lot of pain and then i got into cocaine and i was a 20 year functioning cocaine addict and then ten years crack cocaine. it was a long road. >> you're lucky to be alive. >> yes, 40 years of addiction. >> how did you get out of it? or do you ever get out? >> yes, you get out of it, i don't believe addiction is a disease, i believe all addiction comes from wounds as child, things that happened, or trauma. trauma can manifest into addictions, and for me a lot of things had to happen. i lost a 20 year marriage and had all these things happen in the mid to thousands but in 2008 there was about three

things that happened and seeds were planted for me. there was a drug intervention,t drug dealer intervention. >> why were drug dealers doing intervention. >> i was 14 days and i was living downtown minneapolis, a half-hour from where i was. [inaudible] i had a warrant for my arrest and i i was going to be found innocent the following tuesday. i was hiding out down there and i came out of the room and three of the biggest dealers, i didn't know they knew each other and i said what are you doing and they said mike's been up for 14 days were shutting him off. he said what's thehe matter of you, were not getting anything from my guys and he leaves. >> up for 14 days so you were using and they even said that's enough, rima cut mike off. they must've like you.

they wanted to save your life. >> here's what he said actually, i was a good customer to but one guy left and he went down the street and shot up with his people i now this dealer finally went to sleep, i ran out a crack. and i had been doing one of these numbers and i headed down to the streets about 230 in the morning. i couldn't get drugs anywhere. i came back upstairs all defeated and he was standing there waiting for me and he said man, give me that phone paradigm to take a picture of you. you're gonna need it for that book you've been bragging about telling us you're going to be writing. you been telling us this is just a platform for god in your to come back someday and help us out and he said were not not let you die on us. i would tell these guys all the time this pill is just a platform for god.

>> is this the singular event that started to turn your life around? >> no, there were a lot of things but that was one thing. six months later my son, we came back from a hunting trip and he was in the driveway and he said that i can't stay here anymore i'm in a go live with my brother and he said, that hit home for me that i wasn't hiding too much from him. >> he must've known you were addicted. >> yes, from some of the kids from 16 down they don't remember. my daughter once said were very dysfunctional family. i said i don't know what that means but don't say it again. that sounds horrible. my son hit me with that and in december of oh eight something really happened that was important to my story. my friend came to me and he was my equal. we had both done cocaine in the 1980s, we were both functioning addicts throughout

the 80s and 90s, we switch to crack about the same time and i heard he had been free of these addictions for three years. he came walking in and i was by myself and he came in and i said dick, what are you doing here. he said the lord led me here and i knew he had been straight for three years. i said as long as you're here i've got some questions for you. first i said is it boring and he said noo man is not boring. i was asking about kind of both being clean or being with god. we went into an hour of questions where i had been in-and-out of treatments in the 80s and counselors who had been to school but never been where addicts had been and he was my equal where whatever he said i trusted him because he been where i've been. >> what did he say. he said no man at a boring and

he was telling me like questions about how do you feel inside, do you have anything, thinking about the past, just all different questions, but i didn't quit that day, it was another month later. it was january 16, 2009 and i knew that day, people say was that your bottom. well, for moneywise, sure i didn't have any money left because i knew it would be an incredible story to help people, a story of hope, i would always know these things as they were happening, something bad would happen to me and i'd say that would be good in my book. it was kind of weird thinking but that day i knew my calling that god had chosen me for this to help people and with the addiction, with everything that's going on now, i don't quite know what i was going to do. >> did he turn you on to faith? >> no, seeds were planted my whole life. did he give you the jumpstart

to do something about it. >> like i say, there were seeds planted. you go back to the days, i owned a bar for 13 years. after that was closed, we go back afterwards and sit and do cocaine and i'd be telling him hey these are bad and i was telling about revelation in the bible and what i read about and they would quit that day and find jesus and i realized i was losing friends. that was me wanting to convince myself a lot of the way i function is i'll be talking to people and wanting what i'm telling them so i'm trying almost convince myself but god chased me. >> and when did he catch you. >> are you ready for this? >> february 18, 2017. >> two years ago. a full surrender and what happened there i can go out and speak out for jesus with

that same passion. i went to u.s. bank stadium in minneapolis ake couple months after that experience and i said i prayed to 50000 millennial's and told my story, about five minutes worth and i'm scared. i was petrified. i was able to do it in three weeks later and at amusement park with my granddaughter, all these millennial's inan these teenagers going up and saying wow, i heard you at the u.s. bank stadium, you change my life and some of them say i'm born again and your story is so hopeful. finally my granddaughter had to say he's my grandpa and we need to go, but i think that was god showing -- >> what was that like by the way? you are ubiquitous on tv and radio, what is that like?

does not have an effect, it obviously has no effect but does that have an effect on your ego or on your ability to stay straight? >> no, for me i mean, i drive a pickup truck, for me i've always wanted to help people and to get that feeling back like those millennial's because i had such a feeling about worthiness back in the day inside of me, it made me feel good in my thing will be if i have to be somewhere, i'll stop and talk to every person if they want to talk so i've kind of got a time it now because -- >> your very outgoing. >> yes, or all talk too long, but i love it because i love helping people and hearing the stories. when people come up tos. me now, mark, you'd be amazed. it's not about the pillow helped me, it's beyond that. they come up and say wow, your

transformation and what you've done from a crack addict to where you are, there amazed by that and that story of hope or they say thanks for. [inaudible] tell him were praying for him. it's one of the other. it's just amazing. >> you have a good relationship for your kids. y yes, we haven't gone too far from home, i live in the same town i grew up in and all my kids have worked for me and my kids and my grandkids it's amazing. they came through, they all played a part in my business, it's pretty amazing. >> when we come back i want to ask you because this is part of your life, but you have these other parts your life too. you're an entrepreneur, you turn the basic product into a huge business, even more you're now political, your big fan of the president you've

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mike lindell, you're a prominent trump supporter. were you an early trumpy supporter? what was it about him thaty use on said wait a minute, that's my guy and i'm to be open about it publicly come hell or high wate water. >> a big part of that is when i came out over 30 year addiction, i was like a little kid with a clean slate. i didn't know a democrat from a liberal from a conservative, i had no clue but i also knew what was going on in this country and i was going what's happening. people are unemployed, everything was chaos. were given money to countries,

i wondered why we're giving them money and wondering what is isis. i was waking up from a coma wondering what was going on. in june of 15 i had a dream, i get these dreams sometimes, it was very vivid of me being in a room with donald trump and a couple days later he announced he came down the escalator and announced he was running for president and then i kept, that dream came back again. it was the same dream, like it was reoccurring and my sister called me up andai said he's gonna win. >> so your sister knew way back then. >> yes, she had the same thing. she's very, she's born again christian and actually she said he's gonna, i don't know if she said he's gonna win but she said donald trump who i would go with. anyway then i go to israel that fall and i'm with some

guys that you would all know and i went over there and i asked them what's a liberal, what's a conservative, what's this. i wasn't even believing that everything, my values were all over here and i said you're kidding so i look it up and i googled what i could over and israel and i'm like are you kidding, all these commonsense things were here and all my christian stuff was here or rate in the middle and then things happened leading up to the summer of 16 and all the sudden i got an e-mail from donald trump, mike will you meet me in trump tower in new york city for this meeting and i'm going wow, it's coming to fruition in my board, i was in a board meeting before that in one of my corporate attorneys goes you know, if you do this juergen i heard our sales and i was mad and i walked out in one of my gals on the board said we didn't get this far by you not listening to god and i

went back and said that. >> so this cautious corporate lawyer said stay out of this and a couple others who said stay out of this. >> right and every thing i've done with my pillow, i took, this is what i'm supposed to do and i don't back down for anything. now i went into new york with high hopes, on august 15, 2016 at 10:00 a.m. i walked in to donald trump's office and it was just him and i and he looked up and he said mike you always wear your cross are you a christian and i said yes and we started talking. i told him i was annexed crack addict and with my recovery network working to try and help addicts and he talked about how he's going to bring jobs back and he talked about the inner cities and made in the usa and it was all 30 or 40 minutes and i'm saying wow, this guy's the most common

sense, he's gonna be the greatest president in history. i was blown away and i walked out of the office and i didn't stop there. this is really key which i tell people. i talked to so many of his employees and every one of them was like talking to one of my employees. i've never had that happen with any other person. >> what do you mean by that. >> the passion they had foror him, the loyalty, it seemed like everyone, he had done something personal to help them and they said he cares sore much about people and i knew he cared about the country, stuff he was telling me, this guy, i was so excited that i went all in. >> let me ask you a question. a man you meant there, the man you've come to know, is that the man that's portrayed by the media? >> no, it's shameful. it's so shameful. i don't understand it. you know i do like right now though, i can say everyone i've talked to, i told you so. all these things that he's done in spite of the media, i

spoke two daysan before the election, three days before in minnesota before he got there, and i ended my speech, i was so scared to get up there but i started talking and it was about two minutes and i pointed to the media and i said you guys are wrong, he's going to be the greatest president in history. now everywhere there saying i told you guys. you know it's funny is they don't know what to say one on one, though call me, i was just out in california with some very left progressive areas and i talked to the people and they say we love what you're doing but what's wrong with you. you're aligning yourself with this president. i said what do you mean. i go down the list and i say he's done isis is gone, high stock market, low gas, i see all my friends employed and the wages, it's just amazing to me.

for the media to attack, i'm just waiting, there's like 50 some% approval rating. i've said it so many times before.t everybody loves our president, some just don't know it yet. there jumping on board and they come over here and they go i guess they're right. pretty soon it's good to be down to just the fake news and a few people going okay, i guess we give. >> all right. very fascinating. we'll be right back. they answered 410 questions in 8 categories about vehicle quality. and when they were done, chevy earned more j.d. power quality awards across cars, trucks and suvs than any other brand over the last four years. so on behalf of chevrolet, i want to say "thank you, real people." you're welcome. we're gonna need a bigger room.

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now back to life liberty and levin. >> you seem to wear your emotions on your sleeve. you told america about your past, you want them to know because there's a lot of people you want to help which we will get to in a minute. you have a passion for this president, you have a passion for your faith, you go around the country speaking about your faith, small crowds, big crowds, what you tell them. >> i tell them, basically i tell theml my story, you always see my cross on tv, god chose me. i couldn't talk to people. >> mike lindell couldn't talk to people. [laughter] >> you don't have that problem now. >> i guesss not. it went back to my childhood which i said earlier about that, going to a new school, you can't get rejected if you don't if you don't talk to

people. the first information i ever did there was a live audience and they said you're going to need an actor and i said i want to do it like i do with the shows. i was turned down everywhere, going show to show and fair to fair all over the country, but i remember the night before, i didn't know this at the time but this producer was brought in by this other friend of mine were doing our reads and he said this guy is the worst i've ever seen. he's never going to make it, why did you bring me here, and the next day we go to do thise informational and i walked out, read my line, there's an audience and i was so scared and we did it and i finally said you guys we gotta pull away the teleprompter and bring in a table and we did iter and it was october 7, 2011 in the middle of the night in my

sister's basement, i have like five employees and 40 days later i had 500. you always see me on tv, i'd wear my cross, i got attacked for that where people would call up but i hadn't done a complete surrender to jesus christ yet but i believed in god but i didn't have that personal relationship. it was like okay god, show me more and all the sudden one of the things that my friends know, i was invited to the white house for manufacturers summit and i said who's sitting there and they said the president wanted to sit by you. then here's me and the president and all my friends are going jesus is real, there's no way this could happened, but god kept showing me more and more things and i went to a retreat and it's actually for veterans and i went in there with hope and i was with this gal since 2014

and she had that relationship and she said mike you've never done a full surrender and i said i believe in god but i knew she was right deep down and i walked in there and jesus showed up, i did a full surrender and when i walked out of there, now i can proactively pray. before i used to react and say please god get me out of this situation. now i can proactively pray and it's god's will because his will is in the word. >> you have a big platform now. people know who you are. you're trying to use that for good, you're trying to reach out to people who are as low as you had been at one point, trying to show them what they can be. >> absolutely. there's a lot of combinations there.

in 2016, god gave us a second chance when donald trump was elected. right now, during this time, it spiritual warfare in our country. i believe that. when i go out and speak people, i spoke at a big church, telling my story of hope with the addiction, and also the part god played, and if you don't, if i sit here and told you my stories you'd say wow, i get you the third one if you knew it was real you'd say yes there is a god. to help people out of addiction, i've been there, and to help them out about and to help the president anywhere i can, going out and talking about the common sense and the conservative things that are being done in our country and to help him anyway i can

because to me they all tied together. do when someone comes upp to you and says mike, i need help. >> right now i'm working on my recovery network where you put in, a 20-year-old opioid addict might not relate to a 50-year-old meth guy. so i have these, thousands of stories of addicts telling what they didn't like about that specific drug now, you watch this website, they're going to go wow, that's just like me so now they say this guy knew, he's kind of like my friend dick who came back years later, he was my hope match. so many go hey guys, over here will press this button and tell him you know what, here's your help, the salvation

armies in the union gospels, i've vetted over 3000, soon to be 4000 and when you go here and get out i'm in a be there for you. >> so you use modern technology, the internet, you set up a site that's interactive so people who are in need can go on that site, right in what they are, what the problem is and then they'll be able to connect to somebody or some. >> yes, the be able to go over here, basically not shaming the family and trying to monetize this industry which is so sad saying come in and come to this treatment center or break into your 4o1k and spend all your money on this in 30 days later they need help and healing. basically they trust me because i've been there as a

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mark: you are known to the american people of the face mike lindell, your known as the face of a popular product that people use in one form of

another. you're very successful entrepreneur. there's a lot of people wondering how you did it. how did you do it? >> i've always been an i entrepreneur. i became a carpet cleaner. each thing i did, there was kind of, a kind of manifested out of a solution. i want to say having the passio passion, having faith, but here's one of the things i want to tell any entrepreneur out there. one of the things i didn't have was a safety net. what were living in right now with all these jobs, wages rising, all i see in my own company, i have 1600 employees but a lot of them, and these are careers, a lot of them are going out to take the chance and start their own business because guess what, if they would happen the fail they can go back and do their job

because there are jobs out there. it's an amazing time that were living in where at this time, don't be afraid, there's so many good ideas left on the shelf with people saying i have a great idea but i'm afraid. it's fear that blocks all back. it's a false fear. all the things that happened to me, you know you have deviations and i'll do a thing on deviations, in my company i have 16 employees come about 500 have my direct phone number. i don't get calls, i only get calls when there's a deviation, good or bad. put it out of my head, and that's amazing. if you're an entrepreneur, no matter how big or small you are, if you watch thoseon deviations and you learn from them you either get this on a good deviation or learn from the bad and that includes failure. i'm a friend of mine, one of

the smartest guys i've ever m known. he had been working in the slums for four years and he wants it to be perfect and i said you know what if you got that great idea and you don't do it that's a shame. i said get out there and fail. what's the worst that can happen. >> have you ever failed out of business. >> yes, if you call it failure, i didn't take it all the way, it was devastating when i had to sell it by a series of events, but i look back now and that was a peg. if that hadn't happened we wouldn't be sitting here. that's why always look back at failures at the time, i want to tell you another thing, 99.99% of everything people worry about never comes to fruition. >> so stop worrying you are saying. >> yes, stop worrying.

when do you combine them it becomes a miracle. if you look back, most people you look back and can see their entrepreneurs, if something didn't happen here you wouldn't be here. when i got big and i turned five employees to 500, i took in tens of millions, a hundred million dollars in six months. at the end of it i owed 5 million. everything was done wrong, other people took advantage, but i learned from that. i learned much from that. another thing i l want to mention for the entrepreneurs out there or businesses, learn from someone that you trust in that business. you can learn a lot and say okay, what have you done so you don't have all this wasted time and you can save time on learning on what he's done for failures and successes. >> is there anything you would've done differently? >> i would not have done one thing different if i wasn't

sitting right here, if it changed where i'm at right now. sure i look back, do i have writte regrets, my addiction, my 20 year marriage, my kids, they were affected. i look back and think l that i will lose some time, i think a lot of addicts look back and say wow, i wasted a lot of time. they're starting right here. proverbs trust in the lord with all your heart. lean on not your own understanding to guide your path. for me, that became, not look back. [inaudible] so visually no regrets. i may use that with my past, my stories going to be better. >> don't forget you can watch live-in tv by going to blazetv.com/mark and sign up

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famous man, do you think you will ever run for office. >> if god had me run for e office, that's what i would tell the mediaou and everybody i talked to, but right now i think god has put my platform to help everything that's going on now, healthy addiction, help people get to faith, help our president and i think our platform, i can do a lot of good. [inaudible] i'm open to anything just like i was when i had the dream that came from god to go all in for our president. then it doesn't matter. i can deal with all the pushback and put my faith in that. they asked me what's your busiest day and i say right here. >> as i listen to you, the different phases you've gone

through in your life and yet that consistency with faith, the different phases you go through in your life, your living a very full life, aren't you. you grab that gold ring and you run with it. >> it's like living inside a movie. you go back in the day to where i'd have a gun to my head, someplace in some city and the next day be eating with three millionaires. [inaudible] i just remember this actually happened, i was in a very bad place in our city, it was the middle of the night, i got them all back, ended up back in minneapolis. the next day we were with

three millionaires and all of them said what are you doing, you don't have any money. >> you are making a presentation. >> they were all trying to carve out my company. >> my company has tried to be taken so many times. we haven't touched onn that, all the betrayal and those things. they were all shysters trying to carve up and here i felt safer with the guy with the gun. they didn't understand the corruption in the money and the greed. >> but you, you lead different lives, you've been in different places, do you ever sit back, and i know you think god, but do you ever think back and say i've got a pinch myself. >> absolutely, here's the defining moment.

it was after the president was elected, invited to the white house in the summer of 2017 and i go in there and its manufacturing summit and here's my name tag and there's like 20 people in getting this little tour and it's so surreal. i'm in the white house. i said who sit in here, there was no name tag and the guy said the president is, he wanted to sit by you and i said what? it was like my life flashing back. my friend seen that and i think there was probably 20 of them who said jesus is real. how is michael odell sitting with the president. living inside a movie, i think back, i always been living inside a movie with near-death experience and all these things that i didn't think happened to normal people, or

anybody and then all of a sudden now you're here, one of the things that's true for me is where i had that fear where i couldn't talk to people, even to people at the same time, i was very shy and if you had opened up a picture in the future and there i'm speaking to 50000 people, those are two things that really get to me. god used my weakness of not being able to talk to be able to spread that help. >> and a lot of countries it wouldn't have gone on. we'll be right back. lease the 2020 rx 350 all wheel drive for $419 a month for 27 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.

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forces in the culture and all-around, on the other hand we have vibrant people, were great people, we've overcome an awful lot, you've overcome a lot, where you think we will be. >> i think it will be amazing. i see what's going on right now and it just keeps getting better and better. if you would actually shut off the tv, shut up the news and look around you at what's going on, and by the way donald trump will win, it's going to be a massive win because everybody knows what he's done and people will keep jumping in. everybody loves our president, some just don't know it yet. god gave us grace, this was a turning point in history where

pretty soon the silent majority that's flip-flopped, pretty soon that voiceover here will be heard. >> a lot of people in the press say there's mike talking about god giving us grace and an opportunity like donald trump, he must be some kind of throwback, a deplorable. >> no, i'm a common sense, i'm i a businessman, i never knew anything about politics, i know what's right, what's wrong, and what's working. our president is amazing and he's done it in spite of the fight every day. i get it, but for me it's like they will try to attack me in all this, that's why no everybody really, deep down,

there's this force that's trying to stop it and pretty soon everyone's going to say wow, this is great. the direction were going. it's going to be, i see so many things, addiction, these addiction, getting wiped out in the next six years, look at what the president with isis in two years. gone. that was one of my biggest worries. here's the addiction, it came on strong, addiction, let's get it gone. >> and he's focused ond this opioid crisis. >> i was there when he signed. >> his passion is to help, not just the country, these opioid , i was there when he signed it, everything i do pumps right into that. >> you're very excited - i'm very excited, it's gonna be

amazing. >> absolutely fascinating to talk to you on the air and off the air. >> thank you for having me on. that's it folks, i will see you next time on life, liberty and levin. >> a response to nadler. the white house makes it clear, it will not participate in this week's impeachment hearing. the official word coming tonight just an hour after deadline imposed by nadler. in our lesson, we thought we would be talking about it, white house counsel maloney does not hold back. the letter reads in part, this baseless and highly partisan inquiry violates due process rights and fundamental fairness. you scheduled this in initial hearing purposely during a time you know the president will be out of the country for the nato nato