this summer and located 200 the local charities, that's it for today, have a great week and we will see you next fox >> on the buzzfeed of sunday president announces taliban peace talks with taliban. reporter will spend day tweeting, media keep with saturating coverage of impeachment. >> instead appears to have made him stronger like godzilla. >> it would be more credible if trump weren't the one blocking them from testifying. >> stepped forward and had amazing to tell, you have to

keep the momentum going. >> has the needle moved at all in the direction of convincing the american people that he ought to be removed and the answer is no. >> we will examine these stories, new york times, the president knew about the whistleblower complain before decided to release frozen military complain to ukraine. >> the reason he released the aid is he got caught, he got caught in this illegal or improper or wildly inappropriate enterprise of trading taxpayer for dirt on joe biden. so he waits at least 12 days to do something and doesn't support that he got caught theory. >> washington post and new york times rudy giuliani was in talks with ukraine with to be prosecutor for 200,000-dollar prosecutor even though digging up dirt on joe biden, with jerry nadler starting new hearings, is

the story running out of gas? how is that any less inflammatory, the kind of trump rhetoric that drew so much criticism from media pundits, this is media buzz. ♪ ♪ >> president trump continues to denounce the hearings with -- everybody said that's really -- >> guy benson, host of guy benson show at town hall. gillian turner, fox news correspondent here in washington and richard fowler, radio talk show host and fox news contribute, all right, let's

have a no bs discussion here. [laughter] howie: ukraine, impeachment, after the hearings has the story kind of hit a wall? >> they are definitely invested in impeachment, they've been invested in impeachment since word 1 and will try to push the real story along, tomorrow we will have, i think, vote on tuesday and kick off to judiciary committee and this thing will end up in the senate, a lot of runway for the media to cover, in terms of hitting the wall, that i think the media once again has done itself a disservice from the very beginning of president trump's administration, they had been declaring almost it feels like weekly some giant bombshell that was a turning point in the presidency and there arguably were a bombshell or two during impeachment hearings and didn't detonate in a way that public opinion polls shifted that much

and i think people have become to this sort of claim in the media and here we are where things have happened, it's all out on the table and public opinion is basically static. howie: polarized country and guy stole my question, expand a little bit, when you combine ukraine with 2-year russia investigation and wait until the mueller report, we will wait until mueller testifies, we will wait until michael cohen testifies and that's the turning point and doesn't move half of the country that strongly supports the country, is a disconnect with beltway world and between the rest of the country. >> guy is right in the sense that public opinion on impeachment on the i word is pretty static at the moment, almost a better question for the media to be asking members of congress rather than what is public opinion is to be asking them do you care about public opinion and are you tracking it because from my vantage point for sides of the aisle have been going full steam ahead

regardless of what americans think, i don't know yet of a member that has really dug down into public opinion polls in a way maybe other members of congress did here, i don't think members of congress have the same weariness and same consideration of what the american public thinks which is sad. howie: recent polls show 50% of americans also democrats favor impeachment and removable, is it dangerous that major part of the country does not agree and continues not to agree even in the face of impeachment? >> it's up to american people to decide, on one camp you have members to have media reporting government officials going down putting their careers on the line to talk, to tell the truth about what happened in this july 25th call with the ukrainian and, on the other hand, some journalistic outlets reporting about how there's a conspiracy theories, these are

never-trumpers, these two stories lines have collided with american people finding supporting and gordon sondland, eu ambassador was somebody who gave trump a million dollars and he's not a never-trumper, truth is sort of missing. howie: people as well as journalists can find the investigation they like, the storyline they like, i think there's a lot of that but let's go to specifics, new york times report trump told whistleblower he start to release aid to ukraine, does that show what the media are clearly suggesting which is that he was engaged in a bit of a cover-up? >> maybe, we don't know, because there's another piece to this which was word got out on capitol hill that the aid had been held up and a lot of senators in particular across both parties were very angry about that and were ratcheting up their pressure on the question, so there's a totally plausible story that the pressure from the hill came and

that is what did this in, the other story is he realizeed that there was congressional pressure, forget it, let's release the aid, either one can be true, i'm not going tone gauge in conjecture. gillian: one point of conjecture what we know of president trump, deep state whistleblower complaint in the works, i can't foresee him changing his game plan. howie: are media overplaying the judge's ruling which has strong languages presidents are not kings and don mcgahn must testify and potentially others although it's on appeal, since house democrats have made clear they will not wait for court battles, they want to impeach the president before christmas. >> the media is overplaying this, i think what we have seen in last 3 years how long judges have put on the court, they will

likely rule in his favor, the media is overplaying whether or not don mcgahn will testify, john bolton, will they add color to impeachment? absolutely, the truth of the matter we can wait for the testimonies, longer process when i think the facts seem to be play n. >> why not? first of all, because you appointed or nominated a judge doesn't mean they will be a lap dog and rule in your favor on every single issue or controversy, and if this is not about policy and this is about getting to the truth and defending the constitution. howie: there's a political calendar. >> i understand that, that contradicts what she says. he's out there saying it every day it's good for the country and what richard said it's a -- gillian: impeachment will not be decided in the courts no matter which way you put it. howie: it's jot, i want to get john bolton, crypted tweeted this week, former fox news contributor, our country's commitment is under attack from

within, now is this, again, a journalistic only bolton would testify and if he would turn against trump, this would be the nail for the white house? gillian: it's fantasy that anything john bolton is going to say will move the needle, we have seen how hard it is to do that unless john bolton has some new scathing piece of evidence that nobody has ever heard of before, unlikely to move the kneeled, however, he remains a crucial witness, i think right now his hands are a little bit tied by this lawsuit that he's in, his lawyer asked the courts to rule on whether or not he needs to testify. i wouldn't expect to hear anything from him with all the suit going through system. howie: i want to get to rudy, i will come back in remaining time, the newspaper report that is rudy giuliani while he's working at president trump's personal lawyer and while working with former top prosecutor in ukraine to find unflattering stuff on biden and

the binds -- bidens, does this change the giuliani story in a fundamental way? >> i don't think so, i think there's enormous stench involving all of this stuff and that is been for a long time and details that the stench is strong. >> i think it's directly connected to the white house, the president asked us to read over and over again even at rallies, he indicted rudy giuliani, go talk to my buddy. howie: what do you make the president telling bill oh --

oriley, that he didn't tell him to go. >> if you're watching and paying into the facts it's very clear that he sent rudy to engage in this behavior. howie: you said he sent rudy? >> i'm basing it that whether he sent rudy, talk today his buddy, the president is involved -- >> inserted giuliani into the foreign policy process as far as ukraine but i just want to make sure -- >> rudy was in it before, he was involved in mueller hearings, he's intrigue -- integral part. howie: trying to knock him out with leaks as the president's lawyer, the media give him a tremendous platform to go on the air and make his case including on this program.

gillian: till the present day, he continues to get a tremendous amount of air time, print space across all sectors of the media in many ways rudy giuliani is, you know, the brainchild of the media, they don't get a lot of access of the administration and rudy giuliani, a way to go straight to the vein of the administration. howie: he is the president's lawyer, and television is the president that he likes his supporters and surrogates to communicate. when we come back how press covering president's surprise visit to afghanistan, msnbc

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♪ ♪ ♪ howie: president trump made surprise visit to afghanistan speaking to american troops announcing he's resuming

negotiations with taliban less than 3 months after declaring talks dead and scoring american demand. >> we are meeting with them and say it's a cease fire. howie: is there media skepticism about the president canceling an invitation for them to coming to camp david after terrorist attack? >> there's some skepticism, it's been one of his priorities on policy track since he was a candidate, i personally have disagreements with him when it comes to foreign policy views, he's the commander in chief and ran on deescalation and trying to make deals with enemies and wind down conflicts like the ones in afghanistan, this is very much on par, on brand with what he's been telling the american people for a very long time. gillian: well, except he's moving on with the winding down without a peace agreement in place. >> but he wants the agreement obviously. >> he seems to want to reduce the american troop presence to 88600. on the other hand, he has run

against endless wars and the troops have been in afghanistan for 18 years. >> yeah, and there's 12,000 troops on the ground now, they want to get to 8400 by the end of next year, that's on track no matter what happens with the peace agreement, the problem with this, it's wonderful he's bringing his support direct to the troops, that's always an amazing thing to see, he created some confusion when he said peace talks have been ongoing because as far as the american public is aware those peace talks make to abrupt end 2 months ago and the question everybody is asking now including troops on the ground, is there some kind of secret talks going on, is the president plan to go restart talks and never announced it. have they been going on behind the troops, the troops on the ground need to be very clear on that. howie: the president says we need to have a cease fire and the taliban want a deal and are open to that and taliban came out and said we haven't changed position on cease fire, the afghan government doesn't know

about a cease fire being in the works, on msnbc captain said it's a campaign ploy, is that fair? >> is part of president trump's foreign policy, we see strong man art of the deal character go around the world and say he wants to strike up the deals. >> as with north korea. >> as with north korea, as with iranian, as with turkey, the list is long. howie: what's the problem? >> there are no deals. north korea would have no iran nuclear agreement weapons, he promised he would get a better deal with iran and better deals, haven't sat down with them, cease fire in afghanistan, we are still waiting. howie: i would say there are no deals yet, obviously things take time. this comes on the heel of uproar at the pentagon as you know, gillian, because the president ousted defense -- excuse me navy secretary richard spencer because he tried to block the president from intervening against the accused navy seal

eddy gallagher accused of war crimes and facing demotion, the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military to fight ethically. does this help move that away because he's seen with the troops and seen as commander in chief and seen trying to strike a deal on behalf of the country and the military? >> probably helps with u.s. public perception but i would argue is perception of the troops on the ground in various countries around the world that are serving, i think that anything the president can do to really solidify his relationships, his presence, bases overseas right now throughout the holiday would be hugely helpful to him, if i was an adviser i would be telling him that every single. howie: your thought? >> interesting story for the media to be following because there were denials and public statements and private assurances and now he's out and contradictions on the official story, i don't think we've heard the entire thing yet. howie: all right. >> look, one point on this, i think the trip to military what

makes it great of command, the moment the president destroy it is chain of command weakens the military overall. >> i understand the criticism and he's also the commander in chief, richard fowler, gillian turner and guy benson, the press down on elizabeth warren and realizing that medicare for all is a huge liability, up next. bloomberg news takes handsoff approach to the boss and why that decision is

♪ ♪ ♪ howie: bloomberg news has been getting absolutely so and handcuffed staff in covering mike allege bloomberg's bid. now, bloomberg news has had a relative hands-off attitude

toward founder including 12 years of new york's mayor, when mike bloomberg flirted with running for president in 2016 kathy kylie resigned as political editor, sheer is -- here is what she told me. >> when you're running a political operation that we were, you should follow every story aggressively and i felt that we weren't able to follow this story aggressively and that i thought compromised us as an organization, i certainly felt it compromised me as an editor. howie: editor-in-chief has told staff we will continue our tradition of not investigating mike and his family and foundation, that prohibition extends to bloomberg's rifles because we not treat competitors differently but the continue will -- will continue to investigate president trump, if

another outlet runs piece, bloomberg will summarize it. two more, top editors at bloomberg opinion will taking leave to join campaign and the section is barring any op-eds at all about 2020 campaign. former bloomberg washington megan murphy says the policy is ridiculous and not journalism and she's right, other media companies cover billionaires, such as jeff bezos, corporate owners, cnn and disney, now at&t, i do it with fox, it comes with the territory, this isn't without precedent randolph used papers for presidential run but enterprised dwarf by bloomberg news. what is mike bloomberg afraid of? what if they do investigative pieces on him? he will have to withstand a lot more than that to win nomination, ahead announces pete

buttigieg against call from the mayor, ed henry on the challenge of interviewing rudy giuliani and racially charge attack on

>> interviewing rudy giuliani is a challenge and i can personally attest to that and most recent tv sit-down with ed henry, focuses on the president's personal lawyer being under investigation and as he tries shifting the spotlight to the bidens. >> are you afraid, mr. mayor, that you could be indicted? >> oh, wow, how long have you been knowing me? i've known you several years, you should have jumped all over this in 2015 when this awful conflict was mentioned. >> sure. >> it was hiddenned and suppressed by the washington press. >> the reality is i'm embarrassing you because you didn't do your job. howie: ed henry who follows 4

hours on "fox & friends" weekend by anchoring america's news headquarters at noon eastern because he loves being on television. >> why not? >> joins us now from new york. >> thanks, howie. you had contentious interview as i did him trying to talk all over me. the media failed and you personally failed the story about the binds and ukraine which first broke in 2015? >> well, actually some people overplayed that in the sense there was a lot of commentary that he was lashing out at me personally, known the mayor a long time, i don't think he was, i've since spoken to him since the interview, i'm convinced that he was not personally attacking me, if he was, sobeit, we have to take the heat when we ask tough questions, the whole point of my new show at noon eastern, we will hear from all sides, today we have white house impeachment spokesperson, we will ask him tough questions, every single show like you do, we have democrats on and we are pressing them on the fact that nancy pelosi said she wasn't going to move forward on impeachment unless she had bipartisan consensus, guess what, she's moving forward this

week without bipartisanship, i think the major deserves but fair questions right now, he's in the middle of the world. there's tough questions about how he handled this. howie: does he surprise you, i've known him for 35 years and i talked after contentious interview, he's still willing to go on television even though he's at the heart of the investigation? >> i'm not surprised in a way, howie, because i think rudy giuliani is like the president, they each believe they are their own best communication's person, sometimes it doesn't work out, sometimes it does because they both have the fighters instinct and by the way, i just think in general what the mayor was saying to me, you should be embarrassed as you the media, i was just a fall guy, i wasn't saying i personally felt. howie: that's how i felt about myself as well. >> he and the president for better or for worse are going to punch back no matter what and that's what the president's allies and supporters like about him. howie: the host joy reed was

talking about a poll by the economists that among republicans more felt that donald trump was a good president than abraham lincoln, and here is what she had to say. >> there's a lot of evidence that it is a racial and religious cult of personality in which his base is solidly among the whites, evangelical, white evangelicals that almost worship him and say he's the chosen one of good. howie: now, a lot of trumpers say it's cult personality, why go there, why go there especially from somebody who refuses like many of her liberal pundits the president of being racially divisive? >> i don't understand why she injected race, i don't think race applies, the vast majority of the president's supporters are white but i think weave seen in recent weeks and months he's making strong play for more and more black voters, we will see if he's successful, when you have black unemployment at historic lows right now and you have a president who is trying to reach out to people of all backgrounds and say i want your

vote, i need your vote, i just don't understand why race is part of the conversation. it just doesn't apply and some people like to project themselves, own anger at the president, their own criticism and read into what he's doing or saying rather than just focusing on what he's actually doing instead of projecting this is what he really means. >> right. >> we will divine it. a lot of times a lot of bunk. howie: most republicans are white -- >> doesn't mean it's a cult. howie: it's become a comment phrase on the left. all right, so she mentions in this about trump being the chosen one, he had bit tongue-in-cheek. let me play what rick perry said. >> i said if you're a believing christian you understand god's

plan for the people who rule and -- and judge over us on this planet, you didn't be here without god's blessing. howie: that generated a whole lot of headlines and segments but what was left out the other thing that perry said which we will play right now. >> right. >> barack obama didn't get to be the president of the united states without being by god. howie: what do you think? >> let's take something that one to have president's cabinet secretaries say and twist it every which way that fits our narrative and the narrative was that donald trump thinks he's the chosen one and now rick perry is agreeing, what they left out in many times and was played on other cable channels the bite you played where rick perry in my exclusive said, by the way, i think that barack obama was ordaine by god, there's a reason why we had

first black president, and he's barack obama, big picture, he handed president trump a one-page memo before leaving the cabinet to say, look, i believe you're imperfect as a christian, we are all imperfect no matter what our faith is, in rick perry's point god sends imperfect including barack obama. howie: we have half a minute left, ed, a lot of media mockery online between tweeted or retweeted photo shop, picture of himself with rocky's body, silvester stallone, does trump supporters view this differently than the media. >> probably a joke, the second thing that they left out the sunrise florida rally last tuesday, unscheduled visit to walter reed and some suggested he had chest pains, i have a gorgeous chest and i think that was an extension joke about the gorgeous chest. who cares, it's a joke.

howie: i don't care, the trump campaign criticized the washington post saying it's a -- >> "the new york times" went after doctored photo with dog with medal, some gets ridiculous and by the way, one quick point on rick perry, millions of evangelicals in the country who agree with rick perry, maybe others who disagree but when you mock rick perry you are mocking millions of evangelical who is agree with him and many in the democratic party and many in mainstream media who miss that. howie: by the way, i don't think trump was trying deceive anybody with the rocky picture. ed henry, great to see you, thanks very much. coming up we will talk to former cnn contributor who was dumped because she took over conservative website, later should newsweek have fired a reporter who wrote thanksgiving story before anybody knew he was when we were looking for a roommate, he wanted someone super quiet. yeah, and he wanted someone to help out with chores.

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howie: how is trump spending thanksgiving tweeting golfing and more, well, that turned out

to be untrue as the press learned 4 hours later the president was on a secret mission to afghanistan making the newsweek story kind of dumb and newsweek fired the reporter who wrote it, the story kind of snarky, posted at 10:00 a.m. in the morning, tweets coming previously scheduled. the president announces he's in afghanistan, doesn't update the original story until 6:00 which is malpractice, should the reporter have been fired? >> i think it's probably not a firing offense and good on the reporter who sent out a tweet and said it was an honest mistake, i think that's right, tough to comment on what happened internally there, but i think you don't see -- you don't see reporters coming forward very often and saying, hey, i made a mistake and owning up to it, good for her. howie: jessica is her name, she told that editor assigned her to do thanksgiving story and she apologized on twitter but how was she supposed to know that the white house was

understandably keeping top secret for security reasons? >> it's like pulling off the shelf and airing it by mistake when the guy is still alive, these things happened and should be corrected which she did, maybe there's something else going on, but it was mystifying to me why that was firing -- howie: newsweek said she was terminated after the magazine had investigated the failures that led to the publication of the inaccurate report. well, that's the thing. [laughter] howie: who was ultimately responsible for signing this in the first place and not updating the story for 4 hours, so the president took a shot tweeting, oh, i thought newsweek was out of business and donald trump, jr., wasn't honest mistake because you tried to dump on -- excuse me, dunk on trump and ended up dunking on yourself because you couldn't resist. there's no question that newsweek has been hostile to the president, had to cover lazy boy, first year, but i still want to come back to this question because i'm wonder if this could happen to any one of

us where stories look stupid when other events look happen and was jessica made a scapegoat here? >> seems like it. >> we don't know all the details but i can say having covered the white house, the trips are kept incredible by secret for security reasons it does seem from outside perspective understanding that this was an honest mistake, i think the story, yes, was snarky, emblematic of stories written of the president, some does spend a lot of time of twitter, also honest mistake. howie: sometimes using twitter is part of the president's messaging, when there's the secret trips only those -- only pool reporters are notified and they're not allowed to tell news organizations or even -- >> information on call on thanksgiving getting ready to cover 3:00 o'clock event in mar-a-lago and i find out that our own reporter is the pooler

and he's in afghanistan. howie: you did not know. >> i had no idea. >> they're not allowed to say it until they have arrived in afghanistan, they spent 12 hours on a plane going over there. howie: understandable why this is kept secret, newsweek ended up looking kind of dumb but the firing was way overreaction. thank you for coming by, still to come, a major blunder by the media site tick toc, why it

howie: ticktock the sight popular by teenagers i know one very well. the company suspended a the account of a new jersey high school student that is muslim, presented a political message offering make up device. >> curl your lashes obviously.

put them down, use the phone you're using to search what is happening in china they have concentration camps, separating families and murdering them. howie: tiktok was suspended by a video showing usama bin laden it was a. they said the tiktok is trying to cover up the whole mess. i won't let them get away with this. i say good for her. this is colossal blunder, people are doing similar things, fiddling with your makeup announcing a political message. that is supposed to be free speech on a website. that is how it works. thanks for watching this edition of "mediabuzz." i'm howard kurtz. have a great thanksgiving weekend. you can subscribe on apple i

tunes or google play or foxnews.com. like other facebook page. we post my daily columns there rob: happening at 4:00 a.m., treacherous travel, millions of americans trying to return as major winter storm marchs northeast. >> dumping heavy snow creating blizzard-like conditions, hundreds of flights canceled. rob: white house fires back, the president and his attorneys will not participate in this week's impeachment hearings. >> drama continues today as first impeachment draft is reviewed and republicans ramp up their call for adam schiff to testify. beginning to look like a