"you sure are on tv a lot, so i guess you must be good at what you do. the thing is, when we watch you, we just can't find anything good about you at all and that's the exact opposite of charles payne, who isn't at all that weird." good to know. >> jesse: hell over buddy. i'm jesse watters, juan williams, dana perino this is "the five." former fbi lawyer, lisa page speaking out for the first time. while this coming as we await the release of the inspector general's pfizer report. "when the president accuses you of treason by name, despite the fact that i know there is no fad of the mobile way that i've committed any crime at all, let alone treason.

it never goes away or stops, even when he is not publicly attacking me. the president, responded with this tweet. "lisa page, talks about being crushed and how innocent she is. ask her to read peter's insurance policy. also, why were the lovers messages scrubbed after she left mueller? "we see air force one touching down in london, where the president is going to be attending a lot of nato meetin meetings. >> greg: yeah, they call this a puff piece. it's always about the media and how they create these kinds of things. when you saw the story break, you saw the fan base immediately

tweet the story out and you look at her followers. they are exactly the same. they really got him. but if you look, it's the same crowd regurgitating the same self-congratulatory lunc bunch - it revealed to me that there were marching orders. it wasn't like, oh, i just decided to speak out. this was a courtship between the press and page that would guarantee to make her look like the victim to evil trump. they are the same group of people that have been saying this stuff forever, so it was all planned. when you see a coordinated effort like this involving the media endeavor, people who hate trump, you see why his tweeting and the rallies are so important, because they control everyone else.

>> jesse: when you have an ig report on something like pfizer, people get to read it first and that's when you hear a lot before the report is releas. >> juan: i don't know where this is coming from, because i guess i would be one of these people who would be in on the conspiracy, but i wasn't. i find all this talk about the ig report interesting in that most of the news reports seem to say it really does not indicate there was any prejudice against the president. i don't know if that's the objective. that could be a set up if it does say something about the president's. i don't know. what i do know is that, and i guess i could be subject to being called naive here, but i mean -- >> jesse: we would never say that, juan. >> juan: i will just take her

at her word and the sky is mocking her. he is pretending to be in the midst of -- >> jesse: are you referring to when she was reciting the text "oh, peter." >> juan: she could have spoken out at any time and speaking out now, thanksgiving, christmas, a bad time to speak out, but she did it. i think her feelings deserve some respect. >> her feelings, yes. there are lots of feelings and that peace that she did, the interview. but i find it so interesting that there's never any personal responsibility. if you really love the fbi that much, you should be concerned about your unprofessional behavior damaging the reputation among the majority of americans, who are concerned about the fbi doing things they shouldn't be doing ethically or illegally.

she says they didn't do anything illegal, but it doesn't mean you didn't do anything wrong. i'm not surprised that she decided to come out two weeks before the fisa report comes out. it's a formula, just like comey, mccabe, you paint yourself as a victim. she says that the president hijacked her text messages and used them to fuel a conspiracy theory. you start a go find me page and maybe you get a tv contract. it goes on from there. there are benefits from doing this type of thing and not staying quiet. >> greg: if she's not on "the view" by friday, i will eat -- >> dana: i think from a communications standpoint, from her standpoint, she's playing the cards like she can. everyone is going to try to survive in the situation. everyone gets a say. the president is not shy about

what he wants to say about her. if they thought she and the people she was tweeting with -- that's a good point, to look at who was following her. who is tweeting. i should have done that. it does amplify it, but it's a pretty small circle. who knows. when this actually comes out, we are going to be in the middle of another impeachment. already, you start to see some people that support president trump saying, the horovitz report, not that important. the horovitz only looks at the fbi. >> jesse: you mentioned impeachment. president trump, firing back at the impeachment spectacle. >> president trump: the democrats, the radical left democrats, the do-nothing democrats decided that when i'm going to nato, this is one of

the most important journeys that we make as president. for them to be doing this and putting it on impeachment on the table, which is a hoax, to start out with. it will never end, because they want to do what they want to do. >> jesse: all right, juan. you were back at home in your district during things giving. what was the buzz out there about impeachment? >> juan: not much. not much. i will say in response to this, he acts as if, oh, i'm going off, which is an important thing. but that's supposed to mean that we can't enforce the constitution of the united states? this as a guy, i mean, he wants to somehow focus on the process, because he can't deal with the facts that bribery, obstruction of justice meets the standard for impeachment. he's trying to tell folks, -- look, bill clinton got impeached by newt gingrich.

remember what i said to you last week. almost 29% of americans thought bill clinton should be impeached, but this guy, it's 50% who think he should be impeached and removed. >> greg: but that's the same number that's always been hitting trump from day one. i don't blame trump for not wanting to participate. it's like asking a tree to participate in a wood chipping. if i had my way, the democrats are leading the media by the nose on the story. they are trying to flood the zone with these hearings. >> greg: touching down in london. you have jerry nadler running this impeachment hearing. there's kind of a different dynamic. >> dana: i think that the trump white house is justified in complaining about the timing. i don't think, however, that the democrats even thought to look at the calendar. i don't think that was on their mind. they are on a different time

track. they want to finish before the end of the year. i think when they first heard the criticism about doing this at the same time as nato, it might have been a little surprise. i think the president has a good point. he's there to represent america. it doesn't help that thought press is constantly focused on, is he upset, is he going to resign? is he going to get mad? he has important business. the western civilization, the nato nations, they have important work to do. >> jesse: very important. katie, last one. >> i agree with dana. >> jesse: greg scott that next on "the five." ♪ ♪

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♪ >> greg: joe biden has hit the road with the slogan "no malarkey." where my trousers? what a time travel machine it is? old men wore for doris and worked through heart attack. the last time men used malarkey as an adjective, it was probably described as giving the right to vote for women. should we remind you that it was someone's granddad wandering the hardware store? clips like these keep surfacing. >> by the way, i sit on the stand. i've got hairy legs that turned

blonde in the sun. i kid used to come up and watch the hair come back up again. i learned about roaches. i love kids jumping on my lap. [laughter] >> greg: that was from two years ago. i have no idea what that means, but that's joe. every story sounds like a dream. a collection of words released in no particular order or no known language. he still up in the poll. how does he turn it around? maybe he doesn't have to. the fact is, biden isn't really the party's nominee. impeachment is. they might get trump out of office, with or without grandpa

waving his cane. he will have plenty of job breakers to give to the kids, even if they smell like moth balls. find out if anybody knows what malarkey means. >> joe biden has launched a no malarkey tour. we wanted to ask, what is malarkey? >> i have no clue. >> it's just a bunch of junk. >> i have no idea. >> that's a big word. i don't know if anyone will be able to understand that one. >> of malarkey is something that may or may not be true, but it's enhanced. >> i don't know. figure it's a crazy phrase that joe biden is using to help him get elected. it's not going to work. >> what is malarkey? >> i have no idea. >> that's hogwash. >> i don't have a clue.

>> malarkey. how would you spell that? >> greg: how would you grade the man on the street? [laughter] >> jesse: i thought it was fine. i'm just enjoying watching a field presidential campaign happen in real time. this is what we are witnessing. i think we just need to take a moment and enjoy the moment, because this is what a feeling presidential campaign looks like. at least he's doing it with malarkey. he is known as of a goofy, backslapping throwback. he kind of plagiarized the john mccain straight talk express. he's doing the best he can. but when he talks about the record player, or flipping coupons, everybody is like weight, is this guy in touch with reality? the clip you played about kids stroking his leg care at the pool, there's a photograph of

him sucking on his wife's finger. it's really weird. then, you see the picture of him trying to get the attention of the guy at the diner and the guys just sitting there watching the football game. no idea the vp is there. this guy is way out of touch. trump is up on everything. >> greg: juan, i think you need to point out that he is still commanding the lead in the poll. >> juan: no. i have an issue with you. i am so upset, because i'm a grandfather and you are going after him as a grandfather. well, you know what, awesome old folks, we are still in the game. but anyway, so what, you would have her purred preferred horse father it was a hitch. reporters thought it was an opportunity to get time with the candidate.

i think, i think republicans are worried about joe biden. >> jesse: do i look worried, juan? >> juan: he's undergone all these attacks on ukraine, on his son, and he still doing good. >> katie: well, he's not doing so well in iowa. he is trailing behind pete buttigieg, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders. look, he is talking to his people. young people don't drive out to vote. older people do. people who know what the term malarkey means are going to be voting for him. i actually think it's a good move, because if you don't know what it means, you can google as a young person and find out what it means. but for him. he should stop with the leg care story. >> greg: i'm pro malarkey. >> dana: i like old sayings. corny jokes.

okay, i think he may be could get through iowa. let's say he does. his vice presidential choice will be really important. what did john mccain try to do? he went was somebody younger. like a generational change. he went with sarah palin. obviously it didn't work for that campaign, but it did give him a boost. perhaps, what joe biden is thinking, this is maybe what they are thinking. democrats need somebody to be in a holding pattern for 2020, because they cannot figure out what their agreed-upon coalition is until -- it's not going to get resolved in 60 days before the iowa vote. so, perhaps biden calms the sea is, it gets through one term until they figure out what they're going to do in 2020.

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>> juan: growing outrage after the deadly terror attack in london that claimed the lives of two people. it turns out the man responsible was a ca convicted terrorist. usman khan was convicted on the terrorism charges. at the time of this attack, he had been wearing an electronic monitoring device. now, officials, saying that khan wasn't 1 of 74 convicted terrorists that have been released early. just say, i was struck by this, because it seems so outrageous to me. it looks like he pled guilty to taking part in an al qaeda style attack, bu got 16 years plus fie years of parole, and then appealed it. you wear an electronic tag and

you also have to go in for some kind of training. but the idea is that he was free to commit this. >> jesse: right. i mean, the british need to get their act together. he pled guilty to try to bomb the london stock exchange. recruihe's wandering around lonn with an ankle bracelet? there are people who spend more time for tax evasion. you can't fight the war on terror with ankle bracelets. this guy did appeal, juan. levinson let this guy have april opportunity. there he is, seven years later, walking around, killing people. it's a huge political scandal.

>> juan: katie, the argument was, well, he has very low capacity to go to pakistan, that this is all a fantasy. of course, what you see is that he was working alone. there was no group of people involved in any terrorist unit that led to the attacks. >> katie: in the age of all that we know about terrorism, there is no excuse to release someone like this at all. ankle bracelet or not, there are people that lost their lives as a result of this decision. it just proves that they are still stuck on this idea that rehab is the option, because this is not a religious fundamentalism that needs to be confronted. instead, he needs to be changed through some programming or discussion. that's not true. we see it over and over and over again. there's a reason why we put these people in these places, far away, where they cannot hurt other people. this is going to be a continuing issue as isis people continue to

come back to places in europe. these governments have a choice. let them out on the streets. you've seen the consequences. especially after this, there's no excuse. >> juan: they didn't have any role in this. it was just automatic. >> dana: really. this is interesting, because the english media love to trash the united states about our violence and how grim our streets are. one of the men who stopped these terrorists was also a murder who left a young girl to die in the woods. he's a hero. so, you have a terrorist and a murder on the same street at the same event, the rehab conference. i would be willing to bet that that's worse than any street, and a public street in the united states, that straight, okay? here's the lesson. once a hero, once obviously a villain. criminals who are terrorists can't be treated the same as

criminals who aren't terrorists. i will employ the -- this event shows that all of his pals are free. >> juan: you mean the 74. >> greg: yeah, the 74. but it's insane that they had this rehab conference on a street among innocent people. that is the most dangerous street in the history of the world. >> juan: coming back to what katie was saying, can you really do you radicalize somebody question mike they have these training sessions, including the one he was attending in order to do radicalize these people. >> dana: i don't know. i think you would have to trust authorities and intelligence officials. it's a lot of resource to try to figure that out.

they have an election coming up next week. apparently, this has been a big distraction. i think it's very good that it's happened, of course i'm not happy, i'm glad there's an election. we need the british as well as our other nato allies to be thinking as well as the united states about how we continue to fight this generational war against terrorists. >> greg: i don't even know what a norwell is >> juan: a reporter was fired after publishing an error inacce story. was it justified? we are going to debate that right here on "the five" next. ♪ every american wants their dollars to work as hard as they do. however, since 2000, the buying power of the dollar

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♪ >> katie: a reporter for "newsweek" has been fired after publishing an article that said "president trump will be tweeting and golfing on thanksgiving." the president was making an unannounced visit to afghanistan. that reporter has apologized and is insisting that her editors told her to write that article. "newsweek," confirming that a second employee has been penalized. an unnamed editor has been demoted. >> dana: first of all, the editor, i don't know what happened. twitter is not good for -- it doesn't enhance anybody. it's kind of fun. you can keep up with the news on it. i would tend to believe her. that's what "newsweek" is all about right now. now, you are heading into a holiday season.

vice president pence went to iraq. this white house is so good about keeping it a secret. nobody knew. she could have said, you never know. stay tuned. we'll see what happens. but the second person who is fired gets to be unnamed? i think that's wrong. >> katie: yet. the day before thanksgiving, the white house set it up. he had a 3:00 p.m. phone call with military members around the world. that obviously didn't happen. he went to afghanistan. that also wasn't mentioned. it was simply presented as golf and turkey, right? >> greg: this is the double scoop of evidence, why the media is discussing and why nobody trusts them. one, they created the fake news, they assigned the fake news. two, they assigned a fake writer to cover their -- the only reason why they got

caught is because the real story got reported. if the real story wasn't reported, "newsweek" would have kept publishing the lie. i think the people that got fired should sue "newsweek" and buy it for a dollar. close it down, put it out of its misery. we were talking in the break about how much we loved "newsweek" growing up. you couldn't even use it to wipe an animal's -- >> jesse: somebody's got to take the heat here. she just did what she was told. the editor can't take the fall. he is the editor. >> greg: but he should. >> dana: i want to know if the guy who got demoted, if that person was a male or female. >> katie: you have spent a lot of time.

the reporter has a long history of working in a number of organizations, et cetera. juan, you've spent a lot of time in newsrooms over your lifetime. she assumed she would -- >> juan: right, but she was assigned to write a story for a weekend. if you are going into a big weekend like we just did, thanksgiving, you have a bunch of days coming up, front page stories aren't written the day before. typically, they are written a week before they are signed. she wrote about it and made fun of it. >> katie: she's a reporter. >> juan: they did update the headline, katie. they did update the headline. if you updated and say we were wrong, we were wrong. while you fire her, i don't -- >> greg: covering their --

>> dana: i think she'll get hired by someone else right aw away. >> juan: you are firing somebody who is doing their job. >> katie: is speaking of bias, jesse bloomberg, they announced that they are not going to be investigating him. the trump campaign said, no more access for bloomberg reporters if you are not going to be fair to us. >> jesse: if you are only investigating one political party and not the other, you are a private eye. take the credentials away. i don't see a problem with that at all. i think it's funny how they actually think that the fair thing to do is only investigate trump. [laughter] 's before that was their decision. it's crazy. >> katie: is that a fair thing to do since they are openly stating that they are not going to cover both sides? >> juan: i don't think it's about journalism. i think it's about politics.

remember, trump, i think he took away credentials. he said, i don't like the way you cover me. this is an opportunity to bash the media and that plays well with the trump crowd. >> greg: i thought it was hilarious and fair. rather than say we are going to investigate our boss and all the democrats, they say, no, we'll just do that and focus on trump. i think bloomberg should possibly dell might probably sever ties with his media company until he stops running. that seems to be the most fair thing. >> dana: it's absolutely the most fair thing. the consequences are that a lot of people who are good reporters are being published punished.

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♪ >> dana: welcome back. time for "the fastest seven." some drama that's really taking off. police say that a woman faked an illness. she reportedly asked for a bigger seat and when she was denied, she suddenly fell ill. they realized she was faking it once they got back to the airport and police took her into custody. she was only going on a 45 minute flight. >> katie: banned for life.

>> dana: how mad would you be? >> juan: this is worse than the woman that put her feet up. >> dana: what would you have done? 's before i would have done nothing. she was institutionalized. this is not something that we should be poking fun of. she was institutionalized after she faked the illness. >> dana: she was interviewed. maybe she has some mental health problems. [laughter] >> dana: i don't know whether to believe him. >> greg: no, he's actually right. clearly, this wasn't normal behavior. nobody is going to demand the plane be turned around. it's obvious she had some mental problems and that's why you don't know her name. >> katie: okay, fine. i take it back.

>> dana: next, it's the end of a crusade on proper punctuation. a british group has folded. the founder, 96 years old, says he's closing up shop, because in this day and age, ignorance and laziness have won. i do think appropriate 'are important. >> greg: here's the deal. he's 96, right? he only has so much time left in the world. i saw what he did. you don't need them anymore. >> dana: it's a catastrophe. >> jesse: i'm not sure about it. could we eliminate it? >> dana: no. >> katie: no, keep it. >> dana: juan, what you think? >> juan: i think he needs something to do.

of course, he's right. but it's like when i see someone put an e in there. >> katie: not if you use an 'in a bad way. you really have to use it correctly. >> dana: i thought you would at least be on my side. finally this could have catastrophic for mankind. we, humans, we are just at interpreting them. what you think? this is true or not? >> greg: cats have a million expressions, but they only choose one and that is of disdain. they conserve their energy by being eternally disappointed. >> dana: but dogs have more facial expressions. >> jesse: i'm thinking of something very disgusting right

now. [laughter] 's before you can't tell. if you have any idea what i'm thinking. >> greg: that's true. that's jesse's life. >> katie: i don't look cats in the eye, because i'm afraid they were going to take me to the underworld somehow. >> dana: i do. i like cats very much. >> juan: i don't have any trouble. i don't even bother reading cat's facial expressions. they can claw, they can arch their back. you know how they are feeling. i don't think it's a mystery. >> dana: i want to know we were thinking. >> jesse: before you'd have to believe it. >> dana: one more thing next. music an and about 15 minutes for us to paint one neon green and do this. hang on.

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"one more thing." we tried a mystery oreo. >> greg: it's people. it's people. people. >> juan: is it cinnamon and ginger? >> it does taste like cinnamon. >> juan: wait, they didn't tell you? >> jesse: no, it's a mystery, juan. here's what it was. churro. >> greg: what about people? >> dana: johnny guessed it. >> jesse: yes, johnny guessed it. >> greg: nothing changes. all right. let's do one of these things. welcome back.

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they help lift women out of extreme poverty. i want one of these bracelets, the one that looks like diamonds. they are not real, by the way. there we go. anyway, i wore one to a party in manhattan, and this lady, the host, she says, oh, my gosh, your bracelet is so gorgeous. she thought it was real. i'm sure you were invited. let me tell you something. 100% of the proceeds are reinvested into the artisans. it helps women all over the world. >> gregyou should get one for wife. >> katie: i got it. i only watch fox, greg. >> greg: juan. >> juan: donate your mom tell you not to play with your food? apparently, the message never got through.

he decided to have fun carving a truck out of his mashed potato potatoes. he carved a replica of tesla's new truck. we recall that when he unveiled his truck, he tried to show off that it had shatterproof windows, but the windows cracked. as a reward, his video has been seen millions of times. he ended up pouring gravy all over it. >> dana: i would rather our taxpayer dollars go to the mashed potatoes truck then to tesla. >> katie: melania trump, first lady, has decorated the white house for christmas. she has decked the halls with a bunch of patriotic decorations. she unveiled the decorations on sunday peered she said, "the

spirit is shining at the white house and i am excited for everyone to experience this christmas season." that is right at the front when you go into the east wing to visit the white house. she has received criticism in the past, but i think everyone should enjoy and go visit if you can. it's the most wonderful time of the year. >> dana: obviously, not everyone can go, but if you look at the video -- >> katie: people can go see it and see how beautiful it is. [laughter] >> juan: it's the white house. it should be beautiful. much better than that dark thing that they had there. >> greg: juan careful, are you

starting a war on christmas? >> juan: i'm the one that was defending christmas. >> katie: it looks beautiful. thank you. >> jesse: special report is up next. hey, bret. >> greg: road trip. >> bret: okay, good evening peered welcome to washington. trump has been active on twitter and just the past few minutes. the president will participate in nato's two day summit and anniversary party just days after the british capital was rocked by a deadly terror incident. back here in washington, house democrats, eager to bring down the president, are preparing for another major step in their impeachment effort. live in london. good evening, john. >> john: bret, good evening to you. presidentit