and reports in allegations with the prince having sex with virginia, she sent an email and said she had information. >> laura: we will never be the media mob, let not your heart be troubled, laura ingraham. >> laura: hannity did you have a good thanksgiving? >> sean: i fried my turkey. why does everybody think that everybody wants to see the pictures of every aspect of your life? >> laura: i know, your stuff is mostly about politics and humor which i like. >> sean: they don't really give a rip, me and my dog. here is me doing this. [laughter] >> laura: occasionally i've done a dog but very rarely. hannity, people now put on twitter and i'm sure i've offended this rule that belongs on instagram. instagram and facebook are not twitter. and i have to listen to that, kind of unspoken rule and perhaps -- >> sean: i gave it up to my

staff. i don't even have access to any of it. i have to ask permission of my own staff. >> laura: that is very smart. you cannot be trusted. speed to a cocktail commit is three in the morning, i have in. let me start a fight with jimmy kimmel. >> laura: they tell me i have a show to do and this is more fun, hannity, you take care of. i'm laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" from d.c. tonight ken starr said the president's right to refuse to participate in the next phase of impeachment. here is here to explain this moment, you left wing crazies going nuts about this all day long. plus disgraceful lisa page granted her first interview to the media. and she wants you to feel sorry for her. do you? john solomon here to explain why you shouldn't. and also respond to a breaking statement from the doj that just

drop moments ago about michael horowitz's ig report coming out. plus joe biden's no more malarkey bus tour. famous thing? a few potholes hit along the way, and i'll grow we can governor mike huckabee walks us through some of the dips in the pavement, but first, impeaching to the choir. that is the focus of tonight's angle. now for as long as i can remember, democrats have claimed a vigorous support for international alliances. and since comp took field of office they warned his americans first approach would isolate them and do more irreparable harm to nato. >> for single consequential life or the united states. >> vladimir putin number one goal to divide the west and particularly nato has an american president doing his work for him. >> i can absolutely see the

president doing either seriously weakens to the point it is no longer a alliance where it falls apart. >> laura: okay, all of that would fall, by the way. nato is very important, he is right about that but hyperbole what trump is going to do to nato chalk that up to the experts being wrong again. the truth is trump got nato members to spend more on defense. $100 billion more, to be exact. he didn't do this like some of the other presidents would by bilking the american taxpayer. he got germany, the u.k., france to pay more. it's about time. president obama could have demanded an end to the free writing but he didn't. that is one reason they liked him so much. and you didn't pay your dues, no problem. but president trump touched down late this afternoon in london, he commands nato members attention because they know that he will hold them to their financial obligations and not

just blow them off. now, one would think that congress, regardless of the party affiliation would want the president at this important meeting focused on the issues at hand. there are a lot of issues facing the alliance. and that they would want him there unencumbered by extremist purchases and -- partisan matters, right? not a chance. >> multiple breaking stories to push to impeach president trump moves forward on capitol hill. members of the house intelligence committee behind closed doors this evening to review their report on president trump's dealings with ukraine. >> wednesday the first impeachment hearing by the committee that actually drafted articles of impeachment. tonight, they are meeting behind doors and the judiciary will hold this public hearing. where is the this? >> laura: he is actually meeting with nato members tomorrow, okay? they are using this moment, to

endlessly hype and impeachment that will never result in a conviction, never. and when that has zero bipartisan support on capitol hill. >> the whole thing is a hoax, everybody knows. all you have to do is look at the words of the ukrainian president that he just issued and you know it is a hoax. it is an absolute disgrace for a country. >> so why the need to fast-track this? they couldn't wait until after the nato summit for their pointless impeachment exercise? no. and house judiciary committee jerry nadler tried to add insult to injury just six days ago by some the white house to participate in the hearing during the nato meeting. white house counsel greatly dismissed the invite, great letter, by the way citing a complete lack of due process and fundamental fairness. his blistering letter also exposed nadler's absurd attempt

to rely on the clinton impeachment as president. think president clinton allowed to call 14 witnesses. here with the hearings before the committee set to begin five days after the date of this letter, it still remains unclear whether the judiciary committee actually intends to permit the president or the republican colleagues to call witnesses at all. and also, during the clinton impeachment process commit allow those questioning the witnesses two and a half weeks' notice to prepare and scheduled a hearing on a date suggested by the president's attorney. today, by contrast, he thwarted the president no scheduling input, no meaningful information and so little time to prepare to effectively deny the administration a fair opportunity to participate. well, democrats hold visuals in pro bono work to defend the due process right to murderers yet, they will not give the president

the same right come absurd. but they are so blinded by their trump hatred that they won't even agree to support policies at this point. that will help their own constituents. forget it america at large. case in point, which includes trade concessions from canada and mexico that democrats said they long desired. "the new york times" of all places is reporting house democrats returned to washington on monday, to take facing a difficult choice. should they hand president trump a victory in the midst of a heated impeachment battle or walk away one of the most progressive trade pacts ever negotiated by either party? wow, the pressure is on! instead of allowing this obvious win for american workers, pelosi and whacked out caucus are on a vengeful high. they are tripping on ukraine hallucinogenic impeaching to their own choir of radicals. the rest of america is busy at

work preparing for the holidays. they are enjoying the fruits of perhaps the greatest american economy of the past half-century. >> really, we are in a situation where the economy is growing, where record low employment rates. it is very rare that the biggest is the most nimble and the most flexible and fast growing, but the united states economy is all of those things among developed countries. >> about as good as it gets for the u.s. economy. >> laura: they are showing their own report after the schiff impeachment tricks. the democrats actions this way, the democrats impeachment inquiry is not the organic health grow of miss serious misconduct but to up and the political system, bingo that is just as "the angle" has been warning you for months, actually years. the more left for the democrats

clean, the more they lean againt democracy. because the electoral college delivered the trump victory, you have to abolish it. >> my goal is to get elected, and then to be the last american president elected by the electoral college. [applause] >> laura: go, go, liz. capital come from the supreme court that has to be packed with more justice. >> we've got to make some sort of structural deform, one idea i think is interesting, you have 15 members. >> laura: blah, blah, blah because 63 million americans voted for the man that the elites consider uncouth and untested. the voting age has to be lowered to 16 to cancel all the old people. >> it is really important to capture kids in high school when they are interested in all of this and when they are learning about government to be able to vote. >> laura: okay, none of this is going to work and frankly, it

all looks really pathetic. for the past year, they have been in power, the house democrats. what have they done? they try to distract you from the results of this presidency. a booming economy, record high stock markets, record low unemployment and growing wages. but of course my massive forcing central america to finally help curb illegal immigration. it's about time. what do the democrats have to show for themselves? >> is that all you've got? >> is that all you've got? >> laura: that's about all they've got. the unimpeachment, they don't have anything. the proposal like the green raw deal that will cost trillions and higher taxes for everybody. the master criminals that will make you unsafe and government run health care that is free for anyone who crosses the border illegally. this week, president trump may find after everything i've told

you tonight, after everything he seen since he took the oath of office, he may just find working with mccrone and merkel is easier than working with his fellow americans across the aisle. how about that. and that is "the angle." joining me now ken starr former independent counsel and fox news contributor and babar, impeachment manager and former federal prosecutor and georgia congressman, ken starr lets go to youth you say it is wise for the white house to refuse the house judiciary committee. why do you think that all day long under the resistance media a sign of weakness and administration doesn't have a case to make. >> well, that is the potential downside politically, but in my view, and you laid these out and in pelosi's letter, the impeachment query -- inquiry got off on the wrong track. when nancy pelosi come i believe and i'm usually more careful with my words, abused her power.

by unilaterally declaring and impeachment inquiry as opposed to we talked about this weeks ago, but it is still the infection that continues to make this whole process very ill. at every step, there is some dimensional seizure of unfairness. there is a violation of traditions. a violation of history. in those things count and the people's house. but she has the raw power, the house of representatives has the raw power. they are abusing their power by the way in which they are conducting the specifics of this inquiry. and they should be ashamed of themselves. and if it's going to be a fundamentally unfair, call it whatever you will, use whatever purge oratory term you will, it is certainly a reasonable response for the president and i think a very hard-hitting brilliant and lawyer like letter, we are not going to participate and with this kind of profoundly unfair proceeding.

>> laura: now, kangaroo court, not if taa are, but why do you want to take part in this and congressman barr 11 years ago you took part in the impeachment proceeding as an impeachment manager. 21 years ago, it seems like yesterday, bob. so you are watching this thing unfold. i nancy pelosi just, yeah, several months, back in late winter, early winter, made a comment i think largely has gone unnoticed but the intrepid producer found this today, watch. >> our day-to-day work and it's about the american people. >> i just don't believe in it. they want to impeach bush for the iraq war. i didn't leave bennett then and i don't believe in it now. >> and enlist the president takes us to that place. >> laura: bob, what happened,

is it alexander penman and fiona hill, all of that changed nancy pelosi's mind? >> i'm not sure what changed her mind, but this whole process, laura lacks any sort of coherence, it lacks leadership and it lacks anything of substance and it's turning into the gift that keeps on giving. the more the democrats pursue this track, the less credibility they have. and as judge starr noticed, the the letter that the council set to chairman nadler, the man who never smiles the other day, not only is it hard-hitting come i thought it was actually too nice. he could have summed it up and once it intends, go fly a kite because this is absolutely absurd. the problem is, the damage here,

laura, they are playing around with a very sacred power that the american people have to remove a leader for just cause. they are undermining that very, very significant prose provision iin the constitution. >> laura: the ringleader adam schiff actually spoke tonight on msnbc, watch. >> we are putting the finishing touches on the report which will be released, i think, tomorrow. at the same time, that is not the end of the investigation so while the judiciary does it its work, we feel a sense of urgency. this is a president that stopped u.s. elections twice now. this is a threat to the integrity of upcoming elections. >> laura: did you hear that? he said the investigating continues, back to my ankle, what do they have to show for their two years and the majority? they cannot even pass what they

said they were for? >> right, in terms of the substantive agenda for the country, very little, precious little. and jobs are at stake. that is such a wonderful opportunity for us with our partners. mexico to move forward. it helps everyone. so get it done. but this is the impeachment culture that has been created, and the democrats are driving the culture. they were expanding that culture. they simply want to remove this president period. it simply shows again for wisdom briefly of alexander hamilton and federal '65 and if we really read those paragraphs and 65 about impeachment, hamilton you were spot on and what is happening right now. people are lining up. let's hope that cooler heads, 31 democrats or whoever will prevail and say no, this does

not merit impeachment. whatever you think about that phone call. whatever you think about the temporary hold. it is not impeachable kind of offense. >> laura: it is not even close. by the way, just so the viewers tonight understand come on wednesday, if you thought the previous impeachment hearings were boring come on wednesday you get to hear from law professors. some law professors lectures but one is noah feldman, a professor with 1 of 4 witnesses to testify on wednesday. now this constitutional scholar declared a lot of stuff to be impeachable on the part of trump. okay, here's the list, trumps pardoning of arizona sheriff. and tweeted about the obama wiretapping opponents of the campaign. that is impeachable, number three, the now defunct feed story trump directed cohen to lie under oath and

number 4 advertisement for mar-a-lago resort that appeared on a government website, that was impeachable. bob, you managed clinton impeachment but what about the lineup? pamela carlin at the university of virginia and obama administration, jobs and turley. kind of the middle-of-the-road guy, pretty fair-minded, but some of these other characters are pretty out there. >> it shows just how low we have come or that the democrats have come in the last two decades, laura. back during the impeachment trial in the senate in january and february of 1995, other lawyers on the other side, charles rupp, below, these were real lawyers that had credibili. they knew what they were talking about, they weren't right but they knew what they were talking about. these folks nowadays, laura, they have no substance, no credibility and just going to go up there on wednesday and babble

and babble and babble. the democrats case will sink lower and lower and lower. >> laura: ken on the ute hot law and you have run two law schools as far as i can remember. you have been around universities and great people teaching but is this part of the american people concerned, they are not here to get continuing legal education at the hands of jerry nadler? i can use in practice, but some people are not like waiting with baited breath about what pamela carlin god bless is about to say, final thoughts. >> some of these are my friends, right, but they are very political. they are very political and simply going to be a political exercise. we probably learned a few snippets of history, but nonetheless, we are on a bad, bad train ride. we are about to have a train wreck. the president is right. get the business of the country done in nato. in a footnote on theft, terrific, most nato countries

are doing 2% of gdp. and that is exemplary what the president is urging them to do. >> laura: they said it wouldn't happen and it did happen. one more thing so-called experts were wrong about, thank you so much, the breaking news tonight, what section of the looming horowitz fires of report does bill barr disagree with an lisa page breaking the silence now. solomon and lee smith have answers to both in just a mome moment. >> tech: so you think this chip is nothing to worry about?

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♪ >> he and his lover, lisa page, i'm telling you, peter is going to win here. i love you so much, i love you, peter. i love you too, lisa. and if she doesn't win, we have an insurance policy, lisa. >> laura: okay, you will agree

with me that trump could be a voice-over guy. okay, he is awesome, i'm sorry. we had to play that. it was hilarious. disgraceful lisa page made her come back today. an interview with "the daily beast." and every member -- a member of the anti-trump resistance, of course. the article does not mention what landed on trumps naughty list, it is quotes like this "it is very painful to see places like fbi and department of justice that represent so much what is excellent about the country, not fulfilling the critical obligations they have to speak truth to power." aren't we tired of that? joining me now investigative reporter and fox contributor lee smith and a journalist and author of the great book "the plot against the president." john, why is she speaking out now? has to get ahead of the ig findings. there will be a factual road map to come to light with the fisa

warrant and the russian investigation. everybody who has a chance now to get out in front because it will not look good on tuesday morning. >> laura: lee, she claims that she is victimized. cheapo intimidated because president trump essentially accused her of treason, probabla little bit strong on that but accused her of treason and intimidated. but she comes across to as women as very sympathetic ear? >> i don't think she comes across as a very sympathetic character. for pete's sake, i should not speak for all american women but she comes across as a very sympathetic and the things she's talking on, not her strong suit to go to her affair. she probably should stop with different products. she probably shouldn't have done it at all, but the least bad choice of the series of bad choices. >> laura: john solomon, do we know all the emails have been actually seen? >> well, there have some that

have never been recovered but everything recovered has been reviewed by the ig. she tried to portray she was cleared of the emails and text messages. the fbi released peter strzok and the fbi said political bias by both of them. the emails with dishonor upon the fbi and with the american public questioning the fbi's conduct. >> laura: so who is hurting the fbi's credibility donald trump orly -- lisa page or peter strzok? >> lisa page. >> laura: i want to read part of what john wrote about, the doj released about peter strzok and lisa page, politically charged text message just while assigned to lead case of the fbi most insensitive investigation in decades demonstrated a growth lack of professionalism and sexually poor judgment. it went on to talk about the problems that it causes for the

overall credibility of the fbi. lee, this is also a sign, is it not, that we have to get out front as john said of this report because whatever horowitz says even if it is not as strong as some of us might want, it ain't going to portray lisa page as some, you know, helpless victim who has just been victimized by mean, old donald trump old donald trump. >> right. one of the ways trump also talks about is biased. talk about bias but the fact is she may have actually done something's wrong. it looks like she may have altered some of the fbi interviews with michael flynn. the problem then is not bias. it would actually be what she did. so i hope the ig report gives us some insight into what this fbi team actually did, not what they saw. >> laura: molly jong-fast, just for the folks out there and understand how works in

washington. this is what she said. we have a sound bite how she describes her about the text messages. watch. >> always says lover because it is a way of way of dehumanizing her and sexualizing her. it is like massaging the playbook. she said she sees where she goes to a different car. at the end of the interview, she was witnessing what happened to the fbi, the organization she loved. >> laura: okay. lee? i'm sorry. she sounds very sympathetic, lisa page to say the least. >> if she is weeping -- >> laura: who recognizes -- who the heck, i would recognize lisa page if i saw her on the street. right? does anybody recognize her? i didn't know if someone is looking at me because they were being friendly. that is a little excessive. that is all they build up, and

act. >> right. listen, the self importance of some of these of these bureaucrats demonstrate show why the it got out of control. they were not following the rules but following emotions. >> laura: also, we will not let that happen. donald trump, the late breaking news "the washington post" reporting ag barr already has a bone to pick with the forthcoming ig report on fisa and told bill barr he disagrees with the inspector general on the key findings in an upcoming report. the fbi had enough information in july 2016 launching an investigation to members of the trump campaign. the doj responded to this right before the show tonight saying the world with its report represents the best of the doj and people should wait for the report instead of speculating but what is going on here, john? the newspaper carried lisa page russian collusion trying to get ahead of the story and i think it is shameless. there is going to be eight to 12

findings in the report that will be and troublesome to the american public. we should let them speak for themselves and stop this nonsense. >> laura: they want to put a frame around this report because most people will not read it and it's all the tendencies. maybe they will read some of the summary, correct but not the whole length. that is what "the washington post" is banking on. >> i think they want to frame it when it does come out it will look like a politicized document. that is one of the reasons i want to bring that. >> laura: bill barr inserted something where it wasn't that bad as we saw reported. that is how washington works. washington journalism 101, gentlemen, think as much. we examined 22020 story lines. first what you need to know about elizabeth warren wealth tax actually would work and how it would hurt you, not just the super wealthy, plus biden's iowa bus campaign tour swerving all over the road. governor mike huckabee to take

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♪ >> laura: elizabeth warren's campaign promise to build the rich with a wealth tax may be catching on with voters but not all voters. "the new york times" is reporting only one slice of the electric opposes it astonishingly. men with college degrees. not surprisingly that is also the profile of many who would be hit by miss warren's wealth tax. the times wants to make this about class but they are actually public policy reasons to oppose it. joining me now, trump 2020 economic advisor, why is the well tax seeming to game popularity? >> i think a false narrative has been told by the democrats were elizabeth warren, joe biden or bernie sanders which is only the rich are benefiting in the economy. i wonder if these people went to the mall this week in and see how people are spinning money.

we are in the midst of the biggest thanksgiving day spending. people are making more money and i'm talking about warren, buffett and bill gates but i'm talking about middle-class. >> laura: they are making more money. but i want you to explain this the kids, so big deal. they will not miss if you are worth $100 billion or $20 billion, that is a very small percentage. but $20 billion, forced to give up $10 billion, big deal. >> here is the big problem. rich people don't get rich by being stupid. the evidence, there are 20 countries mostly european countries that have tried texas over the last ten, 20, 30 years. it never works. look at france. france tried to text millionaires and billionaires and tens of thousands of millionaires move somewhere else. so people will move and find any possible way to evade that tax. and even socialist countries

like sweden tried it wealth tax and it didn't work and they got rid of that. >> laura: and it amplifies what you said from npr, the experiment with the taxes in europe was a failure in many countries. france's tax with an estimated 42,000 millionaires between 2000-2012, nine countries in europe had a well tax and today only three norway, spain and switzerland. okay, so a few countries but not many. obviously, not the biggest economies in the world to say the least, but i would it work? with the government, would it make you account for i don't know, paintings, jewelry? how would that work and who would enforce it? were they come into your home? how did they enforce it? >> that is a good question because how do you assess someone's wealth and how do you know how much bill gates or warren buffett. you would have to go into their home and assess their paintings on their walls.

extra accountants. but listen, if you look at even states, number of states have death taxes and guess what my people move out of those states. like new york, connecticut and moved to florida. and so people will change their behavior in response to the wealth tax. my problem with it, laura, zuckerberg or bill gates, they paid a lot of taxes. >> laura: i have to tell you those are great arguments but i think it is much more simple if i were a republican. why don't you trust people? why do you want to take things from people who have earned them and just, we can make decisions with their own money? i think you have to simplify it because i think young people. i want to play elizabeth warren because she spells this in a way that does not sound threatening to a lot of people. watch. >> one-tenth of 1%, and to sense for, they will pay briefly 2%. i'm tired of freeloading billionaires.

i think it is time to as the very top to pay more. >> laura: freeloading? i mean, i'm thinking about people like bernie marcus who built home depot, hundreds of thousands of people. people like fred smith who built -- most of these billionaires that she's talking about that or freeloaders are people that built iconic. they are heroes. >> laura: she makes it seems like it will only hurt the richness of the rich. what is the answer? >> what does she think they do with their money. bernie marcus reinvest in the wealth of companies. if you want to start a company, what do you do? you go to the rich person and they put the start of many. >> laura: again, i'm not trying to nitpick, but real-time focus group. i think it's got to be simple. you don't trust people. they don't trust people to make their own decisions with their own money. and it billionaire tax today would be right in the middle of the text tomorrow. they are never satisfied. >> by the way, they will not use

it to reduce deficit but spend it. >> laura: bingo, spending like you have never seen before. great to see you as always. thank you so much. loved your book. joe biden is in iowa and announcing 21st century think my very updated and very modern. very youth oriented, a bus tour. >> my grandfather would think something was full of you know what. he would say that is a lot of malarkey. >> laura: malarkey. a catchy term, swept on the side of his bus. and the young voters like references but from his grandfather sarah. 1925, but i. this is some of the malarkey he is spewing. >> kim jong un is no person. the same with the president china. they've spent a lot of time with these folks. >> laura: okay, one problem. you never actually met kim jong un let alone spend time with him. the weirdest mom on the trail --

that was not was not the weirdest moment on the trail though. >> the president of the united states. [laughter] >> laura: okay. tda, get a room. joe, that is not what people mean when they say something is a nail-biter. 20 mi mike huckabee fox news contributor. g.o.p. presidential candidates, actually, i almost feel kind of bad about talking about biden. i feel like it is elder abuse. this is just, no malarkey tour express? it is kind of, it's kind of catchy if you are back in the depression era. >> look, when something is too old for me, it is thinking old, laura. but i've got a little irish memory for you since joe likes to talk about is irish. there once was a man named biden and in iowa on a bus he was

writing. he thought president trump was too snarky so h he said, no malarkey tour. but now all of his voters, they are hiding. that is the bus to her that joe is on. i'm thinking 23 skidoo, groovy. hey, daddy oh. let's play some records. it is just something to behold, for sure. the whole thing about him nibbling on his wife's finger. a lot of people made a big deal. i thought that was fine. nothing wrong with that. i'm just glad it was only her finger that he was nibbling on in public because this is the man given to some outrageous displays of affection in public. that is for sure. >> laura: a lot of people have mentioned this, governor, but his wife is very enthusiastic and she seems very witted. i mean, maybe they just kind of make redo bumper stickers and t-shirts. and it's not joe biden, it just says biden on a lot of them. so maybe just switch it over to

her. and i'm being half serious here. >> well, you know, there could be a great slogan. find the thrill, let's vote for jill. there'll all all kinds of opportunities we can go with here. can you imagine joe biden on the debate stage with president trump? think about the outcome of the debate stage with president trump. i'm telling you, that will be pay-per-view. and $23 trillion national debt. >> laura: you have to call the fight, governor. joe biden campaigning for the current occupant of the white house, watch. >> the promise was made. iowa is growing. >> laura: i can barely hear what he said there, but praising trump's record is the best strategy for biden? >> well, it is really a great strategy for america because it reminds us why this president is

going to win in a landslide a year from now. i've been saying that for several weeks. i'm out there on the record. it is a long time before the election, but i think it is exactly what is going to happen because the democrats are so busy trying to do impeachment. they are candidates or people putting words like malarkey on the side of a bus. think about that, laura. can you ever imagine you would see the word malarkey painted on the side of a bus and it wasn't graffiti? >> laura: all right, by golly, governor, we have got to go now. but you have a good rest of your evening, sir. great to see you always. >> good to see you, laura. >> laura: up next, a historical impeachment. victor davis hanson and craig shirley tell us how this impeachment is disregarding history. stay there. ...boom

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♪ >> what president trump has done on the record makes him look almost small. >> we are looking at abuse of power and a level of corruption here that makes the nixon impeachment look like child's play. >> i see it simply as a global watergate. >> laura: they all, they come up with their lines in the morning and they just repeat them all day long. they love comparing trump to watergate. and conduct to watergate but if that is true, why aren't they following the president's set of impeachment inquiry? 20 me to set the record straight, richard david hansen,h craig shirley presidential historian and author of the great new book. this book is coming out tomorrow. i read it when it was approved.

mary ball washington the untold story of george washington's mother. she was a woman ahead of her time plus but fair and devoted, devoted woman in prayer. phenomenal book. mary ball washington, craig, i forgot it was coming out tomorrow. fantastic news, victor let's start with you. democrats, they complain about trump and upsetting norm. this is how they are conducting this impeachment the way they have been doing it? >> yeah, if they really believe it is as bad as watergate come all they have to do is get another special prosecutor like ken starr and the clinton case. they don't want to do that because they did that with the mueller investigation and found nothing. they, themselves, the case of pelosi neither have lectured us what not to do about impeachment, you must have bipartisan support. they told us that in the clinton era, we don't. you must have public support. we don't.

this is the first time we've done it in a modern era with a first-term president in over 150 years in the hunt for election. but this is new, laura, basically we are not going to wait for a year. we are going to impact or influence the upcoming election by the use of impeachment. that is pretty much what representative green and pelosi and alexandria ocasio-cortez said and not so many words. this is the way to stop him from being reelected. so i don't think it has much to do with crimes where high crimes and misdemeanors or impeachment. it's all about fear if donald trump is reelected in 2020, then they are notion with the supreme court should be or border closed, closed borders or -- >> laura: it is political. >> it is all about that. and they have to stop by any means necessary. but this is not what impeachment was intended by the founders. >> laura: all right, craig --

>> to destroy first-term president. >> laura: craig, you have written books about 1941. you have written seminal works about reagan's entire life. you have written about every aspect of the american founding. with everything that you have seen that you have researched, that you have written about mary ball washington, the mother of our first president, what do you think about what this is now? what has been happening? what do you think about trump's politics, what do you think about this and how it's being used as victor said? >> i think, quite frankly, this will be a foot note in history, laura. it is an old cliche, impeachment is political but it is political. but the fact is you need the broad support of the american people. you know, nixon survived for quite a while until the urban committee began an investigation and routine at the committee began an investigation slowly the web of this untangled

became clear that nixon was guilty of conspiring to cover up the break-in of the watergate hotel. is that simply not getting the support of the broad base of the american people. so what you have really is a polarized country. my guess the democrats quite frankly have peaked on this thing. >> laura: hold on, craig, john dean said this is worse than watergate june 1st, 2017. victor wrote the first comment on that when he fired comey. that is what john dean has been dining on. you have known john dean for a long time with the watergate thing. >> they keep comparing to watergate but they don't say how compares to watergate. they don't say where the actual crimes of richard nixon. how this played out the way with richard nixon. they are not, they are not making the case. they are filling the air with hot rhetoric instead of facts. so the american people are kind of tooting it up as basically

partisan politics and nothing more. >> laura: all right, gentlemen thank you so much. great to have you both on tonight. get out and get mary ball washington a phenomenal book by craig shirley. coming up the best moment from this weekend's football game didn't happen onto the field on t e alabama laws, don't rub it in. 20 yearsin ago, i will explain t in moments. st to you. >> customer: really?! >> singers: safelite repair, safelite replace.

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that baby turned out to be that young man, j.k. dobbins, who she calls her miracle baby. >> laura: oh, my god, i get teared up just hearing that again. it was so uplifting. it was one of those rare moments in tv that made everybody stop and think for just a moment. choices my trajectory and history all change. that is all the time we have tonight. shannon bream, fantastic "fox news @ night," take it from here shannon. >> shannon: did you see the country that came from theft? that topic they didn't think should be discussed during a football game so -- >> laura: we can share anything else about various things that are politically correct but you can't share that? they can, you know i won't say what i'm thinking that you can imagine. >> shannon: i should listen to your podcast to find out, laura, thank you so much. hello welcome to "fox news @ night," shannon bream and we began with a fox news alert. impeachment reports on capitol hill tonight. members of the house intelligence committ