♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." if democrats spend an awful lot of time accusing donald trump of dividing america and splitting the country into warring factions. the democratic party they will tell you is the party of unity, the party that brings everyone together. in 2016, one of hillary clinton's many slogans was "stronger together." it's not a bad message, it's a great message but itin does not apply to the democratic party. theoe democrats as of right now aree profoundly divided and gettingfo more so. consider this, joe biden is still at the top of the polls

for his party's presidential nomination. alexandria ocasio-cortez has become the party's top ideological trendsetter, she's got more twitter followers and joe biden does or any democrats in congress. how much do biden and ocasio-cortez like each other? that's a trick question, they despise each other. ocasio-cortez thinks biden is doddering and pathetic end biden thinks she's a extreme it's not. a to mike of course are both right. >> the party isn't there at all. >> some of your opponents are. >> but the party's not there, you all thought the party moved extremely to the left, aoc is the new party. she's a bright, wonderful person but where's the party, come on man. >> tucker: that's not the only feud underway. biden himself is under attack for his criticism for what

democrats regard one of the most racist and bigoted administrations in the history of the country. >> the obama-biden legacy includes more than 3 million people deported. should you be apologizing for anything? >> i think what we should be doing is acknowledging that comparing what president obama and trump did his night and day. >> the numbers are there. >> more than 3 million people. >> i understand that, that was with the law was at the time. >> tucker: that's what the law was at that time, 20 minutes a ago. actually it's still the law, right now, it always has been the law. what has changed his democrats now have no patience for the l law. elsewhere in the party, pete buttigieg is under fire for hiding details of his service to mckinsey, one of the creepier consulting firms. elizabeth warren is accusing pete buttigieg of being a faithful servant of wall street like so many s democrats like

hillary clinton and chuck schumer, he enthusiastically is. >> it is even more importante that the candidates expose of interestflict right now and that means for example that the mayor should be releasing who was on his finance committee, who are the bundlers who are raising big money for him, he's giving titles to and made promises to and he should open up the doors so that the press can follow the promises that he is making in these big dollar fund-raisers. >> tucker: it looks like that's not going to happen. just moments ago, pete buttigieg issued a statement saying he'd lovesu to tell you what he did s a consultant but he can't because he signed a confidentiality agreement. in other words, he will be fighting for you, he's on yourd side but he's only here to protect mckinsey because he signed the contract. ouch.th

clearly elizabeth warren will continue with that line of attack. pete buttigieg should be grateful, mayor michae mayor michael bloomberg is not so lucky. he complementeda senator cory booker as being well-spoken which used to be -- he immediately tried to save his flailing presidential campaign by saying he's a racist. if >> mayor michael bloomberg said you're a well-spoken, you're a senator. >> i was taken aback by it, it's stunning at times that we are still revisiting these tired tropes, the language we have out there and folks i don't think understand the fact that they don't understand is problematic. >> tucker: you got that? get a pen. it is racist to praise the speaking skills of a blue-eyed road scholar. o

he took the only available option in the democratic party and he groveled, he prostrated himself before a gaggle of reporters and begged for forgiveness, he will never call booker well-spoken again. what's happening? for years democrats have denounced trump and his voters as racist, probably including you. now because every revolution eatsut itself, they are using identity politics against one another. when kamala harris got out of the race they told you racism and sexism were to blame, the racism and sexism of democratic voters. amazing. if pete buttigieg loses and of course he will because his appeal is tiny and narrow, it's the news media and democratic primary voters in new hampshire and iowa -- when that happens, you will hear everyone tell you on msnbc on cnn will tell you

it's because of homophobia. none of thisno will surprise yo, the minor democratic party is built on division. they divide the country into categories and subcategories, some skin colors are good, some are irredeemably bad. it's a jeans party now or not the kind you wear. it's simultaneously the party of identity politics and the party of wall street. the party of people who defend private equity, the party of people who fought to keep carried interest in the tax code, people who make absolutely certain they pay it half the rate you pay as a wage earner. they are also a massive and key component of the democratic party. these two groups are in it together. may be ocasio-cortez's but mike bloomberg still pays for everything. how can a coalition like that to

survive? it can develo it is doomed and e happened to better people. the reason i want to talk to ofa the top, we don't share the same political views, your leftist but i don't think i think you know a lot about the democratic party i think you're a pretty good sherpa, a good guide to what's going a on. you tell me, what are the component parts of thee democratic party, who was the feud between? >> the way you laid it out is in some ways exactly right. the democratic party for a long time has been a party that is funded by wall street, a capitalist party that is on certain social issues andly racl issues in disagreement with the other capitalist party and that is the basic shape of things. what are some people in democratic party bernie sanders, aoc, need to put myself in a list like that want is something like ath working class genuinely working class, multiracial party that is a lot more attuned to the needs of its voters and

isn't funded by mike bloomberg giving cory booker a million dollars to run his races. that's what some people want and that is the source of the civil war, it is a foundational challenge to at the democratic party has been for quite some time. >> tucker: this happened in a muted way and i think a lot of details were obscured from us the public in 2016 in the race between hillary and bernie, whih was framed in all kinds of different ways but really it was a difference and economic visions, that was my read on it. it basically short-circuited to bernie's campaign, what do you think is going to happen now? speak of the interesting thing about 2016 as it proved how pent-up demand there was for a different vision for the party, for a genuinely working-class party -- lots of people can say i don't take billionaires checks but bernie sanders couldn't get them if he wanted to. it's surprising how many people wanted that, the senator from vermont who was barely trying to win was trying to take 22 states

from the most overwhelming front runner ever. nowev what happened with republicans, the pent-up demand is there and the other side of it, the people who want to keep the party the way it is our fractured. everybody would like to get a heads up with bernie sanders the same way anyone wants to get heads up with trump. the candidates we align themselves and we know what happened next time. >> tucker: i don't see how alexandria ocasio-cortez and mike bloomberg can coexist in the same political party i don't see any overlap. >> nor do they and nor should they. it's very strange in the united states come if you look at the democratic and republican parties, why is it the ten wealthiest congressional districts are reps entered by democrats? if you have a working-class party, you look at england, that's not true -- the tories represent rich people. it would make a lot more sense to have a genuinely working-class party and if you are a woke billionaire, there is a party for you, it's just not us. good luck and the republicans will give you a tax cut anyway,

go for it. i think that will be a much more clear alignment and a much more overwhelmingly favorable alignment for the democratic party than what they've got now which is a cobbled together coalition. >> tucker: i'm starting to think the difference between you and me and i'm very much hoping the woke billionaires will stay on the democrat side and you're hoping they might migrate to the republican side. >> they are like toxic waste that we want to unload on one another. as long as they are in one party or the other, i don't care as long as we can have a genuinely multiracial working-class coalition, call it what you want. that i think is the idea. >> tucker: i hope it's a socially conservative party. great to see you tonight. house speaker nancy pelosi has the unfortunate job of holding her infraction to party together, that job has its own rewards. she announced impeachment wasy moving forward in the house and the rest of us got to watch the press gosh about what a

wonderful strong woman she was saving the republic, watch. >> a very certain, confident, and steely nancy pelosi today. >> listening to the speaker, it wass comforting. that was really refreshing, i think it was impressive. >> b like hillary clinton on big days, she wore white which is the color of thehe suffragettes. and underlined the momentousness of what is going on here. >> p she is very similar to my parents in that regard. they don't talk about hateful feelings. >> we saw on the exchange how fierce she can be. >> my heart is completely filled with pride, she moves with such dignity and such grace and moral authority. unbelievable.s she's like my parents says the governor and his brother.. it's nauseating. there was one figure on

television yesterday who took it to the next level. over on msnbc, larry o'donnell appeared to be auditioning for the role of court yo eunuch ande ottoman empire. >> like so much that she does, this one was multidimensional. there she was standing up against hatred as her catholic religion has taught her to do since she was a little girl and there she was, she seized the moment as dramatically as any fiction writer could have provided for any fictional politician and a movie scene. you could feel, you could feel the power. >> tucker: how much they have to pay you to say something -- seriously. what would be the price for you to look into the camera and refer to nancy pelosi as someone

given to -- and i'm quoting -- unscripted bursts of eloquence and moral indignation, unscripted. it's a lie. if that didn't make you sick enough, there is this. this moment online, you can buy a "don't mess with nancy" sweatshirt, it's only 40 bucks. see what that does for your dating life. unscripted eloquence, i know that you're a democrat but y nancy pelosi, i'm not even attacking her but most politicians are not capable of unscripted elements. >> i disagree. i think people were impressed by the fact that she did not seem motivated by dislike of trump, despite james rosen's really strange and silly question about her hating trump, she was really -- she seemed like a

steward of our constitution.o >> tucker: what is so funny as no one can be honest about anything. of course these people really are twisted and deranged by ha hate. you can argue they have reason to hate or something but to say that democrats don't hate trump is crazy. >> listen, i think this is a republican talking point also, you can dislike someone's behavior but not necessarily hate that person. >> tucker: that's true. >> we dislike what trump does, we dislike his bullying, we dislike some of his actions but it doesn't mean that you hate the person. >> tucker: we are praying for the man my yeah, okay. normally i try to live that way and i think there are democratss who live up to that standard but recently the personal animus at trump is actually poison in my opinion. >> is it poison for him to call

women fat pigs? >> tucker: he doesn't call all women fat pigs. whatever. >> it's bad to call trump specifically, say bad things about trump specifically. >> tucker: i'm not against criticizing trump, but to make trump the lodestar of your life, to organize, it's not healthy. let me ask you about pelosi. would you say she's someone who speaks for the democratic party, she's almost 80, she's one of the richest members of congress, why should a leader of your party? i'm confused. >> she's a>> ranking member. >> tucker: is she the archetypal democrat when you think of the future of the party, do you think nancy pelo nancy pelosi? >> she is not the direction the party is moving but again the democrats are people who have different views.

i thought ian made some good pointshi and i think he misses e thing that will unify democrats at the end of the day, there is one person and that's donald trump. he's done more to bring people who have ideological differences -- >> tucker: hate is not a strong enough thing to keep political party together.te >> no hate. >> tucker: okay.h if it such a broad tenth and why is the one person they've excluded from a tulsi gabbard? when she wears a white pantsuit people attack her for it to. >> i think they both look great. >> tucker: me to. but why the hatred towards tulsi gabbard? >> you and i agree that the hatred of tulsi gabbard is completely unfair, the things they say about her are unfounded and this is something weis do nd to fix about the party, eating our own particularly someone who is serving our country.

i think honestly that democrats, the one criticism i would give the democrats is we have ceded so much to the right that they don't deserve. we've ceded the military,y, we'e ceded -- >> tucker: i would say there military is pretty left to be honest with you. i think the obama administration did a pretty good job politicizing the military and turning it into a left-wing indoctrination machine. >> i would disagree with that. >> tucker: the one thing you can't do if you're a democrat ia criticize war because that's one thing they're all for. >> that is untrue. tulsi gabbard is definitely against war, she is a democrat. >> tucker: good to see you tonight. most americans oppose a blanket amnesty for people here illegally but washington and big business have their own agenda and they are plotting a way to ram it through whether you like it or not. plus pete buttigieg is the most moral candidate running, he's an episcopalian unlike use a yc pitching abortion to 7-year-olds?

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go beyond the expected. to do the extraordinary. take your business beyond. >> tucker: a >> tucker: america ought to give amnesty to all illegal aliensli within our borders no matter how many there are. the leadership of both parties believes this. the problem is that voters definitely don't believe it, they strongly disagree and have for decades. they have said so in polling consistently. instead of paying attention to what the public wants, the parties ignore it. their latest gambit is called hr 5038, a bill called the farm work force modernization act of

2019. as usual, the name is orwellian, the bill does not modernize america's agricultural workforce, just the opposite. it is designed to keep our farming practices primitive and dependent upon low wage manual labor. the bill which has a total of 24 republican cosponsorsou would ge amnesty to illegal immigrant farm workers in the united states, pretty much all of them. egen illegal aliens who have been convicted of crimes would be eligible for permanent residency here and eventually citizenship. beneficiaries would not have to pay any w back taxes to qualify even if they skipped court hearings or snuck back into the u.s. after being deported. don't you try something like that as a u.s. citizen, congress will have no mercy on you. for foreign nationals, no problem.ho n how many foreign nationals would benefit? on politifact, nobody knows, the pro-amnesty group farmworker justice estimates at least 1.2 million illegal immigrants would be eligible but if history is any guide and it is, the

actual number would be far, far higher. that's assuming the bill would restrict amnesty to farmworkers, good luck with that. hr 5038 imposes very low document standards. of those applying for amnesty can submit all kinds of different documents, there's no penalty for fraud. b there is no reason not to submit a bogus application, he needless to say many people would do. just as they did 30 years ago during the ronald reagan amnes amnesty. that supposedly limited farmworker amnesty drew hundreds of thousands of fraudulent applications that here is the key, most of them were approved anyway. in some cases, even illegal immigrants who arrived in this country after amnesty became law were allowed to benefit from the amnesty, think about that. it was aam joke. now they want to do it again but on a much larger scale. to sum up, the farm workforce modernization act of 2019 would reward lawbreaking, exacerbate the border crisis, and

undermined the stalled wages of american blue-collar workers. it's the mirror image, the exact opposite of what donald trump ran on just three years ago and yet members of congress like elise stefanik, and 20 other republicans are now fighting to make it law. why is that? you've got to wonder. maybe they are not bright enough to know what's in the bill. maybe some other motive, maybe somebody should ask them. washington continues to want america's border with mexico to be as open as possible even though mexico itself is quickly falling apart. it is a cartel dominated war zone. three republican members of congress at the trump administration a letter urging it to follow through with the idea of designated mexico's cartels as terror organizations. congressional candidate from the state of north carolina, called for a 10-year moratorium on all immigration, he joins us. when you say all immigration, do you mean all immigration

immigration? >> it's important what we describe what an immigration moratoriummm is. in this case it means no nette emigration to the united states. about 200,000 people leave the united states every year, bringing in 200,000 illegal aliens would be fine but bottom line, we would like to have no population increase from illegal immigration. >> tucker: you are not allowed to say that. the left has decided because the left controls the terms the writer uses in the right goes along with this and you are allowed to say you are against illegal immigration but you're never allowed to say there should be an absolute cap, why are you saying that? >> of those of the old party rules and there are new republican party in town, people like myself who are younger and less controlled by the conservative think crowd and may be the donor class in washington, d.c., and the political elites.

we understand the game and understand the chamber of commerce has bought and paid for our congresspeople and bought and paid for organizations like turning point usa. we understand it has bought and paid for media outlets like the daily wire for example who are not meaningfully conservative in any way, who can never be trusted to conserve anything. >> tucker: tell me what your rationale is. they are going to attack you on a bunch of different levels for saying this, why should people agree with your idea? >> when you think about the situation that we have in america, where the working class continues to dwindle, legal immigration is not helping us in this scenario. we are bringing in a million legal immigrantsl this year in various legal programs and these folks are increasingly taking jobs not just from working class americans, like we do with the farm pieces like you're

discussing. increasingly from middle-class americans too. even republicans in congress are lobbying right now are increasing high skilledre tech visas. imagine being an ordinary american and going to college with the idea that there is upward mobility and you are going to improve your life by going to college and you get out and you are competing with a foreigner for computer engineering job. who will work for less and work more hours. >> tucker: much like the free market we are told. >> i think a lot of senses, the free market capitalism of wall street is different in the free market capitalism on main street and in a conservative vocabulary that does not recognize that difference is obsolete and it deserves to die. >> tucker: it's great to see

you tonight, running for congress in north carolina. when he's not presenting himself as the moral savior of this country, he is fighting doggedly to protect abortion. plus hospitals are suing the trump administration to make certain they don'tre have to she their prices with the public for real. that isht a fight you should follow, we'll tell you what's happening next. egrading? legacybox professionally converts them to dvds, thumb drive, or the cloud. legacybox is simple and safe, with over half a million satisfied customers. visit legacybox.com today, and get 40% off.

>> tucker: who is the best candidate running as a democrat this year? that's a subjective question, who knows. who is the holiest candidate? mayor pete buttigieg. episcopalians may view god is optional and they do it pete buttigieg is warning everyone if god does exist, he would like pete buttigieg to be president and his extremely mad at republicans. >> it is by no means true that christian faith or any faith requires you to be republican, especially in these times. >> i don't see being honored by the administration right now. >> we stop seeing religion used as a cudgel, god belongs to a political party and if you're dead, i can't imagine it would be the one that has the current president in the white house. >> tucker: jim and tammy faye baker were great, you thought the christian right where bad,

they're nothing compared to the christian left. when his and condemning republicans to the new tenth circle of, he has a new passion for supporting abortion. during a recent rally in new hampshire, he congratulated a 7-year-old girl for her precocious understanding that sometimes free markets require us to kill our own children. >> i listened to you in debates and learn the stuff about you and that you believe in a woman's right to choose about her own body. i agree with that. >> you sound pretty sophisticated for a child, how old are you? >> seven. >> really? your head of your time. what i hope everybody or at least most of us can agree on is who gets to draw the line.ne that's the person making the decision, that's the woman in question. i trust women to make that choice, it sounds like you and i

view the issue in the same way. >> tucker: what's the right answer? the right answer is where are a your parents, i would like to speak them because they are sick people, putting up a saying something like that. pete buttigieg didn't say that. he said abortion, we are on the same side. america's health care prices are some of the highest in the world and one reason for that is that hospitals are allowed to hide those prices from you, the edconsumer. that makes it impossible to search for cheaper options. the trump administration istr trying to change that commits one of the best things thiss administration is doing and one of the least covered. a new issued rule would require hospitals to review the prices they currently negotiate in private with health insurers. this would clearly benefit consumers, so of course hospitals are outraged. the current secretary of health and human services and the trump administration joins us tonight. thank you so much for coming on. tell me if i misstated the

intent of this rule. >> you got it exactly right come all the president is saying if you're a hospital, disclose what something costs before you want someone to buy it. and every other part of our economy, it's a simple right that we have, what is the price of something before you buy at? the hospitals want you to wait until they send a bill collector to your door to find out what it costs. it's an outrage. >> tucker: anyone who has dealt with hospitals recently knows you're not exaggerating at all. >> i'm not exaggerating, i'm the secretary of health and human services and i've had surprised medical bills. s >> tucker: i don't know why i'm laughing, it's so awful. >> i have gone into hospitals for procedures and asked what will this cost me and they say what wil we can't tell you. president trump is for the first time in historyel delivering you the right to know what the hospital service will cost before you get it. >> tucker: i'm confused

because as you just pointed out, no other sector of our economy -- car dealers would never be allowed to get away with this of course. why isn't the left on this? why isn't the obamais administration? >> no other president has the guts, the courage to take on the special interests, these nonprofit hospitals are very powerful. they have been making a lot of money off of the backs of the american patient through this lack of transparency. >> tucker: they are nonprofit hospitals so the directors must be making 80 grand a year, is that what you're saying? so they are making 10 million a year. they are against this. >> they are against it and they are suing us, they are taking a page right out of the big pharma playbook. the president required the pharma companies to tell you the list price of their drugs, theys sued us to prevent us from acquiring that. the hospitals, you tell people uwhat something costs when you give them the bill, just do it

beforehand and they are saying won't. i don't know how they can look themselves in a mirror with a straight face, they should be ashamed. >> tucker: let me ask you, is "the new york times" editorializing on your side of this? support in the administration? >> i don't know where the times has been but it has been very bipartisan. it's been the vested swampy interests that have said they want to keep the patient blinded to information about price. >> it is unbelievable, i cannot tell you how much i'm rooting for you, normal people will be rooting for you, very quickly what is going to happen. >> we are going to win and it is the rule, the law of the land and starting in 2021, hospitals will have to tell you what the price of the most common services are ahead of time. you will be able to shop in just one metro zone, common blood lab tests could cost as much as 40 time difference from one hospital to another.

in boston, labor and delivery varies from $4700 to $16,000. we will get the shop. 70% of hospital services are shop a bowl, we will get to choose the lowest cost highest quality provider, we will bring to our free market health care competitiveil market that will bring costs down in quality up and that is thanks to the leadership in the courage of president trump. >> tucker: i agree with that and i appreciate you explaining that on this show. thank you very much. time for final exam, see if you can beat our experts at remembering what happened this week, particularly the weird stuff.

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fox news battle one another to show who's been pacing closest attention to what happened over the past week in order to win presence from the online store. this week's contestants, first up, jesse watters. he's done very well on the show. the challenger tonight melissa francis, welcome to you both. one of those matchups where i have no idea who's going to win. >> it's me. i'm very competitive, my family doesn't let me play h board gams at home because i get really crazy, i want to apologize in advance for my behavior. >> apology not accepted. >> tucker: melissa francis from harvard, jesse watters from trinity college in connecticut. the first one to buzz in gets to answer the question, you have to wait until i finish asking before you answer.

every correct answer is worth a single point, get one wrong and you lose a point, best of five wins, are you ready? question 1, this is multiple-choice, wait until all the options are presented.ro there's a video going around the internet of presidential candidate andrew yang eating something to his supporters, what did he feed them? a, whipped cream. be, a easy cheese, or c avocado toast. >> the answer is a, whipped cream. >> my buzzer does not work! >> tucker: i love that, the intensity. >> i knew the answer, i want to redo. >> tucker: let's see if he is right. >> he is right. >> i'm a full-service presidential candidate. the yeah! look at this!

who's next? get in there. >> tucker: we should note that was in the parking lot. 1.2 jesse watters, the gang ga gang. this is not a multiple choice, here is, which old-school slogan has joe biden, an old school kind of guy chosen for his eight-day bus tour across iowa. >> he went ahead to. >> i thought you were finished. >> tucker: it goes to melissa. this is our judges in new york city, i'm not going to name them, this is their decision. melissa, what is the answer. >> tucker: no malarkey bus tour. >> tucker: is she right? >> with a focus some other ones, i believe theyto tried out the

"the know i washed tour. they know horsefeathers tour, the no cockamamie buncombe dag nab it tour which pulls really strongld transgender's. ">> tucker: very good, it's 1 1-1. you all are onon it. this is a multiple-choice, please wait until all options are presented to. according to the parenting website babycenter, what is the most popular boy's name 19. is it lucas, liam, benjamin. melissa. >> b, liam. >> tucker: how would you know that? >> my son's name is on the list and i was annoyed by that. is she right?

>> let's start by looking at the top five names forke girls, they include sophia, olivia, emma, and aria. boys were jackson followed by liam, noah, aidan, and grayson. >> tucker: this may be the most intense addition. >> i made a cocktail and i'm never doing this again, it may be too much for me. >> tucker: it's like soulcycl soulcycle. another multiple-choice question and it's about junk food. farmers in this country say an extra cold, wet winter lead to a shortage of this popular food. i is it french fries, popcorn, or onion rings? wow. buzz.t was a fast >> a, french fries. >> tucker: we did this on my 4:00 show.

>> french fried lovers they are freaking out, they are real fears of a french fry shortage due to cold weather, cold, wet weather, in the u.s. and canada. >> tucker: if michael strayhan says it, you know it's true. last question and this is a two pointer. here we go, first lady melania trump has unveiled the christmas decorations at the white house, what is it called? is it blessings from the manger, spirit of america, or c, hearts of the heartland. he i'm going to guess b, spirit of america. >> tucker: is at spirit of america? she's intense, how did you get into harvard?

is she correct? >> he'se. right.te >> christmas time at thes white house, first lady melania trump calling this year's patriotic exhibit the spirit of america, you can see the trees decorated bright white and gold, a lot of flowers and a mini replica of the white house with many holiday reefs. >> tucker: amazing. this and i want to say this, this is the most intense one we've ever had to. and it shouldn't surprise anyone we are going into sudden death. it is not multiple-choice, it's a hard question very few people in the country know the answer. and it's a short question, get ready. the one who answers this correctly wins. what is the capital of canada? >> ottawa. >> tucker: i don't believe you, everyone knows it's

vancouver. our judges are saying it's ottawa, i can't pronounce it. >> i thought i had it wrong, i'm never doing this again. i apologize for my behavior. >> she's good at the buzzer. >> tucker: i have to say, it's unbelievable. congratulations, your streak has been so impressive and so long commit really took a melissa francis character to stopev you. it's hardly a loss, there's no way a moral man could lose. >> i don't consider this a loss. thanks to you both. >> thank you, never again. >> tucker: we are out of time, paybo attention to news every wk to see ifo you can beat our experts.

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♪ >> tucker: a stolen delivery truck in florida turned into a shocking and bloody shoot-out. chief breaking news correspondent trace gallagher has that story for us tonight. >> hey, tucker. this is a jewelry heist that went very bad. it began late yesterday when two suspects tried to rob a jewelry store in coral gables. there was gunfire exchanged with the store owner, and they fled and carjacked a ups truck with the driver inside. that led to a wild and televised 20-mile police pursuit, ending in a shoot out at a busy intersection in miramar, flori florida. 19 officers from five agencies all fired at the vehicle. potentially more than 200 rounds and when the shooting stopped, both suspects and a person in another car were dead. as was the ups driver identified as frank ordonez.

it's unclear whose gunfire killed ordonez but his stepfather said his death was unnecessary. watch. >> i'm not an attorney and i'm not a police officer, but i'm a rational person and reason tells me, why didn't they secure the area? >> ordonez had been with u.p.s. five years. but thursday was reportedly his first official day as a driver. police defended the actions of its officers saying they were victims as well, and the suspects are the only ones to blame. look. >> these officers are showing courage moving toward danger, and that's what we have to be looking at here, and the outcome of this was dictated by two violent felons that decided to bring this on this community. >> police say if they let the suspects continue, they could have harmed others and the situation could have been much worse. tucker? >> tucker: what an amazing story. trace gallagher, thanks a lot for those details.

great to see you. we're out of time tonight. we'll be back 8:00 p.m. monday. the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. in the meantime, have great weekend with the ones you love. sean hannity takes over. ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity." tonight, yet another busy news s night, and we are witnessing history in the making. the american people cannot, will not be stopped. let's make one thing perfectly clear. numbers don't lie. president trump's agenda is an epic success, and according to brand-new economic numbers out today, a new report, a whopping 266,000 new jobs were added in the month of november. now, that includes 54,000 jobs in manufacturing. oh, those are the jobs barack obama said were never coming back. unemployment rate now down again to 3.5%. the lowest level since