>> white house staff secretary stephanie grishah amade. the president says bring it on on a house hearing stacked to deck, we will show you how some neighbors blatantly tilted the coverage to professors, after shouted question about she hates the president, praised from liberal commentators and scorn from those on the right. >> there she was standing up against hatred as her catholic religion has taught her to do. >> i will say as catholic seeing her invoke catholic faith at the

moment at the apex of confrontation was a heart-stopping thing. >> the speaker today losing it, some jason: postal. >> don't mess when it comes to holiness because i'm accused of working with vladimir putin, doesn't mean i hate her, i'm a catholic. >> another moment viral, joe biden goes off on a voter who challenged him about his son's work in ukraine calling him a liar and questioning his intelligence. kamala harris pulls the plug on candidacy, isn't journalist the consensus that she ran a lousy campaign, interview with howard stern hillary revealed how bummed she was after the election. >> i was crushed and really surprised, i couldn't figure out what had happened, what i don't understand is how we have almost

triballized politics to the point that it's about nothing but entertainment. >> finally, when she didn't pay enough attention to the media including howard stern, i'm howard kurtz and this is media buzz. ♪ ♪ after weeks of hearings and months of saturation coverage nearly a shock after papadopoulos moving on articles of impeachment. >> the president abused power for own personal political benefit at the expense of national security. >> no, not at all. it's a hoax, it's a big-fat hoax. >> if you're going impeach me do it now fast so we can have a fair trial in the senate, joining us in studio 1 stephanie

grisham, white house press secretary. welcome. >> thank you. >> president trump fully expects house to pass impeachment and wants to get it over and sent over to hearing, is that a fair hearing? >> i would say so. i would say she's losing democrats in tougher areas, we are we paired. >> interesting that you say that, do you think nancy pelosi would let things get to the stage if she didn't have the votes? >> i think she has to, she has to apiece the militant group in her party to do this, i think that she is just doing to say that she did it and i think that the last especially the judiciary hearing, i think that that really showed how bad and desperate they, i don't know what's going to happen. >> that's what's behind impeachment, to apiece pressure from the more liberal, antitrump democrats. >> i do. , this is hating the president

more than the love of the country. >> impeachment of any president obviously is a huge story, the clinton impeachment story was covered nonstop, i remember vividly. covering impeachment, analyzing impeachment but taking sides on impeachment? >> i think that a lot of journalists are cheering for impeachment and it's really, really sad because journalists have a responsibility to this country and the country deserves to just get the facts and make up their own minds and i don't think that's what they're getting. >> what do you based that on? >> watching, i see the joy, even this morning i was watching one of the cable channels and they were talking about when nancy pelosi when nutty about the word hate and criticizing the reporter saying he was aggressive, usually they are talking how important it is to be aggressive. >> you set me up on my next

question, when speaker nancy pelosi sent on sinclair television reporter, news conference was over, do you hate the president and she turned on him and said it was insulting to ask her that as a catholic. do you take her at her word that she says she doesn't hate the president at all? >> i don't know, i don't know what she hates, i think she hates the success, i think the entire democratic party hates the success. i believe that, nancy pelosi told republican that is they all hated bill clinton at the time, so she's had quite to evolution when it comes to impeachment and thoughts on different things, while democrats to be sure are being accused of process forward without evidence and facts because of campaign, obviously primaries and caucuses begin in february, it's the administration slowing this down by blocking testimony from likes of rudy giuliani and mick

mulvaney. >> we are not going to participate where the guilt is predetermined. there's no due process. i would point out to people that the dems are working through the weekend, i don't know if they have worked through weekend for anything, that would be nice if they would work for usmca and drug prices that are good for this country, so they're pushing this through, they know they don't have anything, they're just -- it's a show, this has been a show the entire time. >> you're explaining why the they have declined to in a process that the president calls unfair. i don't know that you can simultaneously argue that we are not going to cooperate and not produce key witnesses at the same time boy democrats are really rushing this because they want this thing to be tied in courts for months. >> well, i think there's two different sides there, they are really abusing their power and they are very much weponizing impeachment and that's ashame and dividing the country. if we had due process and the

rules ahead of time and if they hasn't been moving the goal post, now they are rushing through because they want to get this through, they are worried about the election coming up. they want to be say impeach, itch -- impeach, impeach. >> is president trump looking forward to a trial in the senate, republicans running the show would be more fair? >> absolutely. another reason they might be rushing they might be losing some of their dems, if he goes to the senate, he's ready for at least a fair process and we will show everything and there, again, as we have been doing he did nothing wrong, the president released two transcripts, that's only evidence they have and it's because the president released it. i think people really need to remember that. >> others would say they have the testimony of the various career diplomats that had levels or interaction with the president or the white house. >> very little, very little if

actually. >> the media portrayed the president as not getting along with western leaders particularly emmanuel macron and justin trudeau, he got along great with the leaders, pretty basic disconnect there. >> it's constant, i'm on most of those trips, i sit in the meetings with the president and the foreign leaders and he does get along with them very well, he can be tough on them when it comes to something that's good for america, i would say that under our president we've gone from 4 to 9 countries who are now paying their fair share, they've all gone to 2%, that's because -- >> defense costs. >> absolutely, that's because of this president. the president gave more than 2 hours of access to the press unprecedented. >> yeah, back to back to back news conferences. >> they all covered video where the foreign leaders were talking about, you know, the lock press -- long press conferences, the irony is crazy because president

is giving narrative. >> he's talking to boris johnson and macron and laughing, he was sort of chiding the president for having a 40-minute, that's why there was a delay and the president was heard calling trudeau two-face, that's getting along great. i know that you say the media would overemphasize that but there were tensions. >> there can be tensions, america first is what he has always said when he was running and as president, there can be tensions certainly but he does get along with them well and produce results. >> when melania trump unveiled white house decorations, annual holiday ritual of mocking and criticizing the first lady, what did you mean? >> well, year one they mocked the decorations and portion of the white house, year two they did it again, mocked portion of the white house. this year the coat she wore in a video, the decorations pass

muster and now it's the coat, the first lady travel today nato with the president, she visited salvation army, put care kits together for christmas, she was just at children's hospital reading to sick children, she does that every year, that's what should be covered, the first lady who is a mother, first lady, speaks multiple languages and stays very busy deserves very busy that if a first lady democrat would be in office would be getting. >> the washington post fashion says the coat is ridiculous. that's her opinion. well, melania trump often dresses in pantsuits to send a message to her husband who prefers more feminine dresses. >> that's kate's opinion, mrs. trump choses the close to wear like any other woman in the country, she doesn't have time for that, it's just ridiculous that they focus so much on her outfits and mrs. trump herself said i wish people would focus on what i'm doing rather than

what i'm wearing. and continues to happen to her. >> melania obviously is a former professional model, do you think if she was a democratic first lady she would be on magazine covers and treated differently. >> i think she would grace every magazine cover and positive news coverage across the board all the networks and all the publications, mainstream publications. i really do believe that, she's doing such good work on behalf of children and have a heart of gold and rock for this family. >> do you believe since this happens every year, do you think this has to be with journalists and punt its not particularly liking melania trump or basically who she's married to and collateral damage? >> i think it's collateral damage, i think all things in the trump administration get criticized, you saw in judiciary witnesses using baron trump as a joke, it's beyond the pail if the name trump is attached to it. >> does that include you?

>> absolutely. yes. >> on that note, stephanie, we appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> thank you very much for joining us, our findings on unbalanced way covered and why were they focused on hot-mic moments involving trump at the nato sum

>> all cable news network carried house judiciary hearing and one jonathan turley that opposes impeachment. >> impeachment process has lost all meaning. >> president trump must be held to account. >> one of the thinnest records ever to go forward on impeachment. >> now, let's take a look at how the coverage was that night from 7:00 to 11:00 eastern, fox news was about even, 4 minutes and 10 seconds of sound bites and gop witnesses, 3 minute and 50 seconds and over 4 minutes to over 2 minutes, look at msnbc, almost 7 to 1 ratio, more than 12 minutes for the proimpeachment witnesses just over a minute and a half for

turley. and joining us now to analyze the coverage mollie hemingway, senior editor at the federalist and fox news contributor, griff jenkins, fox house correspondent and fox news contributor who runs georgetown's university institute for politics. mollie, i saw a lot of headlines, what's your reaction the way the media covered the hearing that night as we just showed in generally? >> in general an issue where the media seemed to be the biggest proponents of impeachment even though that democrats themselves, it's fine to cover all of the democratic witness that is were there but suggesting that there's this -- there's this truth in the fact that 3 witnesses supported impeachment and one didn't that that ratio is significant, the only thing that's significant is democrats picked 3 witnesses and the republicans had an opportunity for a single witness, even the way that they covered the witnesses when the one witness made unfunny joke about the president's son, you saw a lot of people on the media

praising and she had to come back and apologize for it. they are not showing the type of skepticism or criticism or even handedness that would be helpful. >> making a plan named baron. if there's antitrump and impeachment testimony, some that play antitrump sound bites again and again and kind of, you know, mention the other witness, not so much. >> you know, howie, i've been there every morning and i will be there tomorrow morning covering the hearings and my colleagues in the media are working hard to get it correct, however, i will say the graph that you put up there really is why fair and balance as fox news started matters at this moment because history will look back and see if this was truly straight down partisan lines, was this about politics or was it about the constitutional duty that speaker pelosi says and i think that when you have the coverage that is not balanced and looks like you're trying to skew it and persuade, although i'm not sure anyone is

persuadable at this point, it's going to be something that won't reflect well on media networks. >> you can criticize what they say, at least play the sound. we saw the media covering the all too familiar partisan and jerry nadler and pundits saying the hearing like the other hearings didn't move the needle, your thoughts. >> i think a lot of people have made up their mind, the republicans support the president and democrats oppose the president. this is what is interesting, the graphic that is you'd put up there, i'd be curious to see the same graphics for the daytime coverage, right, the -- the anchors that were actually anchoring the coverage in realtime on all the networks because the 7 to 11 period as we all know on all 3 of those networks, opinion, right, and so while fox was even in terms of the number of sound bites they played, i will bet the

commentary that went along with the democratic sound bites was dismissive of that where they were dismissive on turley easements, if you were tuning in in realtime watching the coverage and my sense and i flip today all 3, you saw actually balance amongst news anchors but once you got to opinion shows everyone picked an chose the commentary. >> let me throw in there, moe, one thing to watch for is the inspector general report drops tomorrow morning and horowitz will go through the senate judiciary committee department and interesting to see in the daytime coverage how much of the other channels including fox news will cover horowitz's appearance because that's going to be a different story than what we've seen out of the -- >> briefly on the daytime thing, i've been critical of msnbc, the coverage is anchored by opinion host, liberal opinion hosts like nicole wallace. i'm not saying nicole wall his

-- wallace is a liberal. do you think the media is making clear what party line effort this is. >> for decades we've had people in the media and people who are politicians say in order for impeachment to be legitimate it must be bipartisan, in this case you have bipartisan opposition to impeachment and you only have democratic support for it and that doesn't come through in any of the coverage and it is a problem, also just the fact that they made big news about the fact that she was saying we will drop the articles of impeachment, this has been a gardened conclusion for years for now and to treat it surprise just shows the push for impeachment, what can we do to media people to get people more on board, that shows she's completely confused with the job of what the media should be and how they have turned into

complete partisan. >> briefly, though, is there bipartisan opposition to impeachment. most democrats -- >> you may have one or two who chose to vote against it and pelosi has given democrats, you know, free reign to do what they want. hillary clinton getting the howard stern treatment, that might spark speculation, she might be getting into the race, i don't think so, we will break it down

♪ ♪ >> devin nunes sued cnn for eye-popping $130 million, the story said ranking republican on the house intel panel met in viena last week with ukrainian prosecutor viktor shoken, nonen

said he never met shoken, one cn, in that rudy giuliani associate looking into biden in ukraine and looking for indictment, during this period nunes was communicating. >> i was not meeting with ukrainians in viena in december of 2018, it wouldn't have been hard to prove but the bigger point, sean, they shouldn't be listening to somebody who hall been indicted, okay, it's really, really bad on their part, it's reckless, it's clearly reckless. >> the lawsuit packs partisan punch, cnn is the mother of fake news, cnn is eroding the fabric of america, intel committee report multiple phone calls between nunes, parnes and giuliani that led to ouster of ambassador of ukraine?

>> what did you discuss with parnas? >> i don't even know. >> you don't think he would -- >> you have remember, you have to remember we are the house intelligence committee oversight committee, okay, so we get calls from people every day. howie: and those calls didn't go unnoticed at cnn. >> he attacks us for reporting anything that could come from giuliani associate led parners, if it's not okay to get information how does mr. nunes explain this, 4 separate phone calls with his name on them, why didn't he mention them. howie: cnn did repeatedly ask nunes for comment but he refuses to take questions from the network. ahead kamala harris drops out and some pundits are trying to make a story about raise but first reporters question the really set off nancy pelosi and the president rip it is coverage the president rip it is coverage of the contentious nato when we started our business

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catholicism and i'm not really sure that i used headlines. mr. republican talking point and in fairness he was trying to get out the second part of the question, doug collins republican congressman and others were saying because they don't like the guy and he was saying it, the liberals on msnbc showed at the top praised pelosi for dressing down this reporter and "the new york times" and washington post have the glowing

profiles now on how as times put it she's transformed from impeachment skeptic to impeachment warrior, what do you make to have coverage she's getting including the moment with the reporter? >> well, this is yet another great example of how the media are not doing good service and not covering impeachment drama, there is, a lot of problems with impeachment politically going on right now, you're not seeing increase in support, you could have had no more support than what the media have provided in the last month, you had wall to wall coverage, you've had every possible case and support of it being offered and you're not seeing a move in the numbers which is politically very problematic and you're not seeing any discussions of the political problems in the coverage of pelosi, it's just treated as if anything she does is particularly great and meanwhile a lot of americans do sense that animus is motivating the issue, a lot of serious issues going on while people are playing around with impeachment and nobody other than a few reporters are even getting at the issue. howie: nancy pelosi could have

ignored the question and do you have a problem with journalists asking do you hate the president? >> it was an odd question, opened the door, it was a question that got a personal issues, personal animus and gave her the opportunity to give a personal answer, i don't know that a lot of people do know just how deep nancy pelosi's faith, how deep of a role that plays in her life and i think her reaction there was very legit, it was very real that she does draw on catholicism and teaching against hate of fin, so it gave her a chance to get up here and make a personal argument that this isn't driven in hate, i don't hate the president, this is based on our views, so, you know, i think it was a -- a personal legitimate human reaction that media question allowed her to give. howie: she also lost her temper. >> we see sort of like -- this

disparity in how it's treated, nancy pelosi is a politician who supports abortion, very much so when she's asked questions about her religion informs that other reporters, she's never asked those questions or if she is, other reporters move away from it which is not okay. howie: i want to get to nato, the president suggested that it was unpatriotic of democrats to continue impeachment hearing while in london at the nato summit and he was asked a question about leading democrat, take a look. >> what do you -- [inaudible] >> i think he's a deranged human being, i think he's a sick man, he lies. howie: don't criticize the president while he's overseas, it's like being treating as

ancient relic on both sides. >> probably helped the president to be able to address it at nato because really if you're a critic of president trump he does succeed on the international trips and in this case they continued to have the judiciary committee hearings and move forward on impeachment while he's overseas and so he's pushing back on schiff is beneath the role he's had on the international stage, so -- howie: we are short on time, moe, during the clinton impeachments republicans were attacking the president while overseas trips, they were passing articles of impeachment while overseas trips, standing at conferences with benjamin netanyahu and president clinton was asked, he differed, he stuck to the job, what's unprecedented here is how the president takes the bait. howie: so also the video i mentioned with stephanie grisham, justin trudeau, many people laughing, he held one of

3 news conferences, trump tv, why are the media so fascinated by the gossipy moments? >> i thought that was not big of a deal, i thought it was interesting that they were talking about him, and president trump was asked about him and he announced that justin trudeau is a two face but a nice guy, what's so important is nato strategy, getting countries to care about defense spending and also these are countries that have serious economic problems while president trump doesn't, so this mean girls gossip -- howie: the president defending nato alliance which threw pundits for a loop which is he's the critical one. stick around, panel, joe biden denounces a voter who pressed him about his son and pundits complaining after kamala harris complained that the field is to wide. sean hannity goes off howard stern for two-hour sit-down with

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>> it was another viral moment for the media, joe biden taking questions on iowa town hall when retired former accused him of being too old and acting unethically as his son hunter took a lucrative job in ukraine. [inaudible] >> just like he is. >> damn liar, man, that's not true and no one has ever said that. let's do push-up together, man. let's do whatever you want to do. [applause] >> i think this is good for joe, right, am i wrong?

>> turned into a rant and he was overtort. >> very agitated joe 330 lost it, he went on an 83-year-old voter, unhinged rant. howie: how would you compare joe biden's outburst to say when president trump scolds a reporter says you're fake news or insults the political rival? >> right people, people seem much more favorable to joe biden going on voter than any example similar with president trump and i got the feeling that if a -- if a female candidate had done something like that she wouldn't be treated with the gloves off, hands off treatment. howie: she can't keep her temper, she's not calm. >> the media struggled, there are real issues here, real issues with biden and enabling corruption on the part-his son, they will have to be addressed at some point and so the media should pay attention. howie: moe, even lib rail

opponents seemed sympathetic to biden, he said he went to door and looked angry and undisciplined. he was joking about the iq test and the push-ups, it wasn't like everybody was letting him off the hook. >> no, and i think the reaction of the pundit class was actually fairly divided, there were those who said he went over the line and others who say good on joe who show spunk and fight, it's interesting, though, your question earlier about how this compares on how they cover the president, it's funny, a couple of years ago the president obviously was getting a lot of coverage when he would do this sort of thing, now it's almost dismissed, now it's like there he goes again, he's attacking another reporter and lost the edge in the coverage because it's old news now where biden doing it is kind of news, different. howie: griff, let's point to kamala harris dropping out of

the race, basically running out of money, the final days of her campaign had devastating pieces about how bad a campaign she had run, lots of on the record quotes, disorganized, filled with in-fighting and when she dropped out some people not necessarily the same people said this is terrible the leading candidates are now all white, as if that was a main reason that she dropped out. >> look, i covered all of the debates and being in los angeles on the 19th, she was working hard, the big moment when she took joe biden and said i was that little girl. now you see with the debate coming up on the 19th cory booker who did not qualify for the debate says we've got presumably to his democrat party, we've got more billionaires than blacks on that stage and so, you know, her exit is certainly going to raise that issue here in a few weeks. >> well, i thought the value of

a diverse field that democrats have had that everyone gets an equal shot and not necessarily equal outcomes, harris vowed out because she had plummet today 2% in the polls and wasn't raising enough money. >> and i would agree with that. i think that this was a historically diverse field, kamala harris did make the next debate stage, secured a spot on the stage but she couldn't make it there. howie: liberal commentators she faced race bias and gender bias. >> i think there's legitimate biases and i think it's pronouncing against women candidates still to this day and i think that is a bipartisan problem, i think republican candidates deal with a lot of challenges. >> so much journalist the things that get left out are voters themselves, voters themselves, blacks who are key demographics for democratic primary did not support her, they supported joe

biden, they're not racists the democratic president was barack obama, to leave things out and blaming racist who are campaign failures is unfair to the voters. >> absolute biases but that wasn't the problem here, she did her campaign did not connect cory booker who is such an important voice in the democratic party his voice hasn't connected yet. >> voters aren't looking for a person of color but best candidate to beat president trump and that's joe biden according to poll. howie: she had the moment on the stage with joe biden, higher on the polls, she got a lot of good press and interviewed a lot, i'm struck by the contrast two .two major newspapers detailing with on the record critics on how

badly it was run, well, tough for a black woman, i'm not minimizing obstacles after first african-american president and switched to racial debate and force that surprises me. griff: to step back for a second, talking about race in politics is easier than a process sort of like what happened on the campaign trail and you'll find some outlet that is will cover obviously what happened inside the campaign, every campaign has its horror stories. howie: every losing campaign. >> the audience and appetite for those stories is perhaps much smaller than those about how impactful race is at a time like now. >> in fairness a lot of the coverage is driven by the fact that you have two democratic candidates out there driving the narrative, cory booker and julian castro who have been pushing the notion that you have more billionaires on stage than you do diverse candidates, and so i think a lot of the coverage

is driven by that but, again, comes back to the fact that their campaign haven't connected. howie: mollie is right, moe, griff jenkins and mollie hemingway, still to come, hillary clinton said she should have paid mor

>> fox news alert in the next hour we will hear details on pensacola naval base shooting, stay tune for that. ♪ ♪ howie: it was truly a marathon interview, hillary clinton with howard stern who tried to get her to come on the show during last campaign and clinton finally admitted she made a mistake. >> i could talk to you like a person and maybe say to the earth dog audience, this is a cool woman. >> i often did not prioritize media the way i should have and i think that's one thing that, you know, trump would interview with anybody and in his pajamas they would take him and so he was just a constant presence and, you know, i -- i think i

made a miscalculation, i do. howie: joining us emily, culture editor of the federalist, i'm glad that hillary clinton finally admitting that she should have engaged more with the media even howard stern, she did more than blow off interviews and hostile towards the press based on years of grudges and defense about the e-mail scandal. >> she was hostile, she doesn't -- the stern interview is really remarkable thing, 2 and a half hours long, on youtube in 5 parts. >> how much have you watched? >> all of them. it didn't feel 2 and a half hours because stern finally sort of cokes her and go to odyssey and marriage and career and as much as disagree with hillary clinton and choices she's made, she's an interesting person whose has an interesting seat to a lot of the history in the country including watergate, good interview. howie: you do a lot in 2 and a

half hours, i think validates what i've been saying howard stern, the former shock jock is one of the best in the business. let's take a look at another highlight here, she was asked on debates with candidate trump was coming behind her, this is what she said. >> supposed i had turned around and said back up you creep, you're not going intimidate me, the headlines would have been lost her, you know, calm, you know, switches into being angry. >> right. it would have worked against you. howie: so as you say she's cautious and not doing it here, she even -- hillary clinton said she like men contrary to rumors to the opposite and yet, almost like a key on the keyboard where people say, aja, is she opening the door to 2020, i don't see any evidence of that, i would

argue that if she would argue she wouldn't talk like that. >> she started the interview uncomfortable, when i saw the clip that she sort of started talking sexuality i assume that stern might have brought it up no, it was her herself, the most interesting parts of the interview, talks of overanalysis and how she expects them to cover her and paralyzed her as politician, she doesn't use the ward but the implication of how she describes being completely paralyzed and how she will get covered and what does she do, a remarkable thing that howard stern out of all people got out of hillary clinton. howie: it's more interesting to listen to somebody who is being candid, one person not pleased with the interview fox's sean hannity, take a look. >> the guy i grew up listening to, howard stern, would have supported donald trump and not hillary clinton, not sure why howard hates trump and loves her, makes no sense. howie: sean hannity not pleased

but howard stern said he loved having donald trump as a guest, they rate women 1 through 10 but didn't like him as presidential candidate, he's more socially liberal and he wanted hillary to win. >> he's written how he was obsessed with getting the interview, one of the most friendliest interviews hillary clinton has ever had and i expect there's a lot of people that stern that feel like sean hannity and surprised of glowing treatment and it was glowing, the questions were tough but kind of personal way, he wasn't like disagreeing with her on politics or anything like that, so i bet there's a lot of people who feel like hannity. howie: he made some news, thanks so much and that is it for this edition of media buzz, i'm howard kurtz, check out my podcast media buzz meter, we riff on the day's rottest stories, you can subscribe at apple itunes, google play, we post daily columns there and let's continue the conversation on twitter, a lot of great

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