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>> so we do it all again tomorrow and will have michael horowitz and the senate judiciary committee. >> "outnumbered" is going to have more of the breaking news and they start right now. >> dagen: this fox news alert, house democrats making it official announcing to articles of impeachment against president trump this morning and taking no questions from reporters. those two articles alleged abuse of power and obstruction of congress regarding the ukraine investigation, but notably, no bribery after weeks of referring to a quid pro quo and the president's conduct. now the house judiciary committee faces a historic decision. here is chairman jerry nadler. >> the house committee on the judiciary is introducing two articles of impeachment charging the president of the united states donald j. trump with committing high crimes and misdemeanors.
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later this week, the judiciary committee will need to consider these articles of impeachment and to make a recommendation to the full house of representatives. we do not take this action lightly. >> dagen: this is "outnumbered." i am dagen mcdowell and town hall editor and fox news contributor katie pavlich, host of kennedy on the fox business network kennedy. syndicated radio host and fox news contributor leslie marshall and in the center seat today, former utah congressman fox news contributor jason chaffetz. he is "outnumbered" ." hold your mouth, we will get to you in a minute. i can see it on your face but first let's go to mike emanuel, chief congressional correspondent live on capitol hill. >> good afternoon, the announcement of the two articles of impeachment came first thing this morning, the house intelligence chairman took on those same democrats should not rush impeachment. >> argument why don't you just
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wait amounts to this, why don't you just let him cheat and one more election? why not let him cheat just one more time? why not let him have foreign help just one more time? that is what that argument amounts to. >> the argument they are crafting, abuse of power and obstruction of congress. a day after staff attorneys for the democrats and republicans made their cases for or against impeachment. has judiciary's top republicans challenge the democrats approac approach. >> what is not there is very interesting. what we've heard is quid pro quo, bribery and those are not going to be in this articles of impeachment, that is very significant and what they are trying to give to the american people showing how they have failed over the past three months. >> the house republican leader sounded furious when he spoke with reporters a short time ago. >> it is not difficult to defend
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this president because this president did nothing that is impeachable. is hard to defend democrats on how they are running this house and what they are doing inside their majority. that's the difficulty that i have. >> the democrat leadership in the house rounding up the votes, michigan democrat said she is not a definite yes yet. >> i was not elected to do what is right, was elected to do and protect our constitution and democracy. have we some way endangered our national security? i think it leads me to be very concerned. >> voting on these articles as soon as thursday and i'm all makers will vote on the house floor before they leave for christmas. >> dagen: thank you for that, mike emanuel on capitol hill. jason, just your initial reaction. >> jason: they are going to be voting on thursday, we have not seen the text of this, my guess is if you go to every member of
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congress, they don't know what it is they're going to be voting on and debating the defense. the republicans not allowed a minority day as per the rules of the house of representatives and this whole thing has been a total sham. i could go on for a whole hour but it is a total miscarriage of justice and fundamentally wrong and the democrats will pay a heavy price because they have forced us the system. >> dagen: no bribery. aware that they focused to see if it would resonate, and you have seen the poll numbers and we will get into how partisan this is, you've seen the poll numbers continue to fall among republicans but no bribery in there. >> katie: you have democrats continuing to say this is about protecting the democracy in claiming this is not political, this entire thing is political, they have not been poll testing words in order to get them on board, thinking about whether they keep the house in the next
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election cycle and the way that they tailored it to just two articles proves exactly that. trying to give the moderate democrats who are trump districts the way out to vote yes on them based on what they think and i'm actually not convinced that nancy pelosi has all of the vote she is going to need from democrats. a lot of people who just got elected are looking at this and saying it is nice you been in congress for 30 years but it's been my live stream to serve in congress. i campaigned really hard in a trump districts to get elected and i am not willing to just give up my seat for a partisan political impeachment that has been rushed through on behalf of radicals like jerry nadler and adam schiff. >> kennedy: the entire impeachment process is really an appeasement for that section of the democrat party and there is a split and it was a tough decision to make, to be go broad with this? if you are going abroad, it is fueled by hate, if you have
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something that is a little bit more narrow than people who are on the fence you can kind of get them on board because at least have the appearance of being somewhat surgical, but i share jason's skepticism that this whole thing is happening too fast and i think there were a lot of people paying attention who are looking at this going what exactly did he do and there's a lot of stuff that republicans and democrats don't like about phone calls and the ways that the president handles himself on twitter, but i don't know that that adds up to impeachment yet. i think that's a problem. >> leslie: i don't think that's a problem and i don't think it's political. the reason is that you have waning support even among democrats for the impeachment. now 44% with the latest poll yesterday. and if i were the house speaker who has said before it's going to be divisive to the nations great if it is political, you
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would say we are not going to do this right now but you look at a poll yesterday that shows 52% of people approve of the way the democrats have been handling the inquiry process. the bottom line here is a cannot be and i don't believe this is as to whether it's popular or not with voters because they were a couple of things, this could hurt democrats because some of their nominees and senators are going to have to -- no question, can't be absent for this trial in the senate. but when you look at the decision nancy pelosi has made, it is a decision that is the constitutional and congressional constitutional responsibility because constitutional scholars have said it is not about quid pro quo. is about just the simple asking of a favor of a political rival, personal and political gain. >> jason: that is not one of the charges. >> leslie: abuse of power is one of the charges. >> jason: debbie dingell doesn't even know what is in it. >> leslie: can i quote you on
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that? if debbie dingell doesn't know it, the knot must be wrong? >> jason: it is rest if they try to do it on thursday and today is tuesday, she doesn't even know it's actually in that bill. >> leslie: if they did in two weeks or three weeks, that's not going to change, is that? >> katie: allows more transparency and a slower process. >> kennedy: more time rather than less time allows you to have a more complete picture if you are removing the president of the united states. i think they were something beneficial to taking your time and working your way through this particularly for people who have questions and still need convincing. >> leslie: republicans have been saying let's hurry up and now they are saying hit the brakes. >> dagen: it is partisan, nancy pelosi said nine months ago, they did reference these comments, impeachment would be so divisive unless there is something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, they shouldn't go down that
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path. here's how the support for impeachment breaks down. more than 83% of democrats supported come already more than three quarters in march before the mueller report came out, less than 10% of republicans support it, 9% now, so there is your partisan divide number one despite 100 hours of deposition testimony and 17 17 witnesses. secondly, robert ray, former whitewater independent counsel said neither abuse of power nor obstruction of congress rises to a high crime. is not treason, bribery, extortion, or illegal foreign campaign contribution. in fact, instruction of congress is in interbranch dispute between legislative and executive and the democrats refused to allow this to play out in court. that speaks to the issue. >> leslie: there are dozens of constitutional scholars who disagree with it and not just what we saw on television and not just those who may not like the president. i have talked on the radio show, finding them all over the internet and in every classroom.
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>> kennedy: you can also find constitutional scholars who will take issue with the next democrat president and if there is a republican house, is politicized because they are going to be looking for vengeance and i don't understand how you can say it is not, the only way you say that is to give yourself cover because the claim is that president trump tried to harm joe biden and his campaign by having a foreign government that would be public and embarrassing, so they have created an investigation of the very public and embarrassing to this president knowing he's not going to be removed for political harm and political gain, they are doing the exact same thing. >> katie: they have been very reckless with the language they've been using. russian propaganda by daring to bring up evidence of ukraine interfering in the election and yet you have him today standing up in front of the country and saying unless we impeach the president, our elections are not safe and accusing him of
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cheating in 2016 and then rushing it through into 2020 and the democrats argument is we can't go to court and go through the legal system because we are afraid we are going to lose and we don't want to take the time to go through the legitimate system of how this is supposed to work to compile witness testimony to my firsthand testimony rather than having constitutional scholars and lawyers from sanford and professors from all over the country deciding to come in front of congress and have an opinion about this rather than presenting real evidence that is taken by subpoena through real witnesses. adam schiff doesn't want to do that because very reckless talking about the president cheating which is not true and could be any president in the future is an invalid election both for 2016 and 2020. >> dagen: they might as well follow it with the i'm with her buttons. they might as well have in the
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democrats need to stop talking about the american people as if they are stupid we need to only use two articles of impeachment so people can understand it. that's the point, they understand this is a charade and abuse of power. i don't mean abuse of power by the president. how the white house is responding to house democrats announcing articles of impeachment and delivering of the commander in commander-in-r legislative victory. on the same day.
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>> kennedy: president trump in the trump campaign blasting democrats after they announced two articles of impeachment against the president. all this as he gears up for a big pennsylvania rally tonight. john roberts live at the white house with the very latest. >> this is why you have to be 5s ride because it is got more loops, twists and turns than the joker ride at six flags. we lurched from one topic to another and from one side of the political spectrum to the other so quickly, this morning first thing a 9:00 a.m., democrats are saying they want to impeach the president in an hour later saying they want to pass the usmca, his signature trade agreement. at first on impeachment, the president reacting this morning to the fact that the house judiciary came out articles of impeachment, one on obstruction of justice and tweeting to impeach a president who has proven the results including producing the strongest economy to have one of the most
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successful presidents and has done nothing wrong is sheer political madness and rochester pennsylvania this morning, echoing his thoughts, listen here. >> it is really amazing and what's happening is a disgrace. is nothing short of a partisan impeachment. i think the democrats are running down as president because they know they can't run against this president in 2020. >> the president again insisting he did nothing wrong, neither his phone calls or his dealings with the ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky also sang when the word us and that phone call, he was referring to the united states of america and not broil us. >> kennedy: obviously democrats trying to take away the presidency but on the same day giving him a major victory on usmca, what's happening ther there? >> it is so ironic what happened this morning, literally an hour after jerrold nadler said he wants to remove the president
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from office, nancy pelosi the speaker of the house came out and said that she wants to bring the free trade agreement to the floor saying it is much better than nafta and remember it wasn't so long ago when the democrats were saying why are we going to renegotiate nafta? but the democrats claiming that it is a victory for them, the white house saying not so fast, watch these contradictory statements. >> in terms of our work here, it is infinitely better than what was initially proposed by the administration. >> they're going to say what they want to say and they're going to try to shape the message and they're going to try to spin up at the fact is the president worked on this deal, got it secured eight months ago. >> we will not hear from the president likely until he leaves at 5:00 and i'm not sure if we will hear from him then because it could be raining by that point, might not get on the helicopter. he also has got that meeting in the oval office this afternoon with the russian foreign minister sergey lavrov and the
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possibilities that could open up but it is kind of a controversial meeting i'm not sure that they want to open that one up. >> kennedy: got to put everything out there, god forbid we have a boring day. >> that's why the seat belts come down over your shoulders here. >> kennedy: john roberts live at the white house, thank you so much. so tell me about this because this seems like a very jumpy and maneuver. the democrats are offering this deal on usmca, i'm just waiting for impeachment to pass the house because then we will have a china trade deal, what do you think? >> jason: it is unbelievable that this is happening on the same day. color me skeptical on this one, i think they went back and paul tested this in one of the criticisms of impeachment was the whole idea that you're not getting anything else done and the for this thing has been sitting around for 18 months, closer to
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a year it's been out there and ready to go and suddenly on the same day within the same hour, takes away one of the arguments they've been hearing at home. it is a huge victory for the nation as a whole, both sides can take some credit but it wouldn't have happened without donald trump making sure and getting it done with mexico and with canada. i'm just going to go out on a limb and guess that the president is going to get a bit fired up. when neck that is going to be a fun rally to watch, but are democrats the one who deserve credit for usmca? >> leslie: he deserves credit for this pair this is an example of why impeachment is not political because if it was political, they continue to drag their heels on this, the reason it took a year is they were two very specific issues that they wanted the president did not only come to the table with on this, but come to an agreement which he has which is environmental protections so that a lot of the unions.
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>> jason: you know what a big fan i am of you, nice try. that's not going to get there. >> leslie: i do feel that we should be looking at this for the victory that it is and there were more than 400 pieces of legislation that this house has passed, ask senator mcconnell where they are. >> dagen: i will tell you what this is, the democrats just handed it to him and his voters in 2020. and it is actually prove that the impeachment is partisan because they had to do this on the same day to save their own backside in november. hillary clinton lost the light college vote by 67% to 20% nationally. the seals it for president trum
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president trump. >> katie: democrats should be thinking the president for renegotiating this, something that chuck schumer had talked about needing to do, using it for the right time which is today so they can say last three months of not doing anything else, here we are on the same day, we can walk and do impeachment and do the usmca and other things on the same time. >> dagen: she's been holding this in her little purse. we have to move on because all eyes are now on john jerome conducting a criminal review on the russia investigation, the objections to the findings on the origins of the russian probe as republicans claim a double standard, that is next.
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too much we are awaiting new remarks from attorney general barr on the release of the long-awaited horowitz report after the inspector general found the fbi's probe of the 2016 trump campaign called cross fire hurricane had a lot of errors and omissions but was not politically biased. in a statement yesterday said he disagreed with his own ig who will testify before congress tomorrow. also disagreeing with horowitz as u.s. attorney john durham who is conducting his own investigation into alleged surveillance abuses. his inquiry has a broader scope than horowitz is an additional investigative resources. residents from predicting we will learn a lot more from
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durham. watch. >> this was an attempt to overthrow and a lot of people were in on it, and they got caught. they got caught red-handed. i look forward to the durham report coming out in the not-too-distant future. in has got his own information which is this information, one of our great achievements. because what we found and what we saw never, ever should this happen again in our country? >> katie: there was a risk of investigation fatigue so can you explain as a former chairman of the oversight committee who has dealt with the inspector general before why they would be a discrepancy between a u.s. attorney who is conducting a criminal investigation and the inspector general who is doing an internal investigation of the fbi? >> jason: the scope of what horwitz can look at is just the department of justice in this case specifically the federal bureau of investigation. his presence and what he's really saying, i read that is
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potentially expanding above and beyond them into the dni, director of national intelligence which oversees 17 different agencies, potentially the cia talking about brennan and clapper and some others because it goes back to things that happened overseas for the fbi wouldn't necessarily be involved, so stay tuned on that. the other thing you need to understand is this is the fifth report in a series, there is now 1,000 plus pages of documentation from the inspector general. the media focuses on there was no bias but they forget the other 1,000 pages that talk about all of the bad things that they were doing, all the nefarious things they were doing against trump to spy on the trump campaign of the way they were doing it breaking protocol, call james comey a dangerous president, it is 1,000 plus pages and it is ugly. the entire upper echelon of the fbi has been blown out, thank
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goodness for the trump administration for getting rid of them and they were eight or nine referrals back to the department of justice, some for criminal prosecution. having read these for a living for a and a half years, it doesn't get any uglier than what the inspector general just put out. >> katie: you mention the dni james clapper, one of the main questions with the ig and with durham is whether the fbi used a dossier that was politically funded to get a fisa warrant. let's go in time and see what mr. clapper had to say about whether that was used. >> with respect to the dossier, an important point to make is we did not use that as a source for our intelligence community assessments based on traditional intelligence sources. >> dagen: why wasn't he charged with a process crime for lying to congress back during the snowden revelations? that guy can't tell the truth,
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couldn't pull it out of a light up. is very unfortunate that you have the dni, head of cia, and the fbi all essentially warring with each other over the steele dossier and the fact that the fbi can watch an investigation and spy on americans with its very low freshman wow threshold should be the most problematic part of this report. the fact that fisa can be abused in such a way because if you are omitting critical information and you are getting a warrant to spy on someone with those omissions, there is something that is dreadfully wrong with the system and i hope people go then i hope they read that aspect of it because not only is the relationship between christopher steele on the fbi very curious, but also, who have clear abuses of the system that we need to throw nothing but sunlight and figure out what's really going on.
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two maximum number of democrats and officials took a victory lap yesterday, are they celebrating to early? >> leslie: i don't think it's a victory lap. too much comey says we should pull those up, when this report came out, horwitz's report found the investigation was opened and conducted according to the rules, those of us who knew the truth had to remain silent and those who smeared the fbi are due for an accounting as if 17 major screw ups that led to the improper surveillance of an american citizen should be something to be celebrated. >> leslie: i hear what he is saying, i don't feel a celebration within my party. what i hear is the truth came out and what our own attorney general said was not true which is he alleged they were spying done by the fbi about this report found authorized and validly predicated in addition that there was no spying and
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this is what's bothersome to my party. the attorney general seems to be on one side of his mouth praising his department in which the ig as part of, the justice department but on the other hand, undermining the results of this report and the findings. >> katie: the ig report did confirm that the dossier was not used to launch the fisa investigation so just want to make sure that is clear. >> dagen: it says the dossier played a central and essential role in getting the fisa wind. >> jason: what they have been reconciled as a deputy director of the fbi testified before congress that without the dossier, they would not have gone, so somebody is lying, he was doing it under oath. >> dagen: the self-promoting spotlight seeking peacock
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training is back going i'm the biggest boy scout in america but i will point this out, he along with james baker, the council for the fbi at the time shows not to request that their security clearances be reinstated for their interviews so we were unable to question him further or refresh his recollection with relevant classified documentation when he was questioned about whether the team interviewed any of this. >> kennedy: what about bruce ohr not detailing the conversations he had and the cross fire hurricane team not figuring out at least they say how the dossier was funded? this is a very critical piece. >> katie: there are still lots of questions and john durham is investigating so we will see if we get more answers on that. up next, joe biden adding a female rival to his list of potential running mates saying voters are ready for an all too female ticket. the politics and gender politics of next.
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>> dagen: he says he didn't mean to overlook her, he would add him to his list of potential running mates after he was pressed on why he left the massachusetts senator off his list when he spoke about potential female running mates last month. >> the issue for me will be if i'm fortunate to be the nominee is who in my most comfortable with that i am confident if i turn over responsibility, i'm not going to be surprised. she's going to be very angry me having said that. >> dagen: >> dagen: meantime sae was considered biden a vp tells the associated press she is ready for an all-female ticket. i will go to you first. at least joe biden didn't refer to her as the old ball and chai chain.
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>> katie: they have to be careful about playing the gender card again and if they really wanted a female president, they would've elected hillary clinton but a lot of them didn't come out to vote for her. is clear a female president is in exactly on their top list of priorities and the little bit condescending to tell someone who is in the race against you that you can be my vp once you win, it's a little bit early for that discussion ahead of the primaries. >> dagen: you pick a vice president in theory to carry a group of voters who would help you across the finish line in a general or an area of the country, what would elizabeth warren bring to a ticket? >> leslie: she wouldn't. i'm sorry. joe biden, he gave the actual politically correct response as somebody who was running to be the nominee and running for president and having been a vice president. one, you don't and you can't as a democrat in 2019 for the 2020
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election have two white people on that stage. sorry. elizabeth warren is a white woman. his far left of joe biden, he is the moderate candidate and he knows that although elizabeth warren would appeal to the democrats, that is not who is going be running a ticket that is a 50 state race and he has to have somebody who is going to help him bring in more of those swing state voters, independent voters, people that are republicans and unhappy with the party with a president. elizabeth warren doesn't do that. so i think if anything, he was being kind. i think she would like you can be my vp, i am not surprised at the responses but i don't think that's the reality in his response. >> jason: is a little bit embarrassing that barack obama has not endorsed his former vice president. i will tell you, i don't know whether going to go but i think barack obama probably plays the biggest role in brokering how
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this all plays out. >> kennedy: i just hope he remembers elizabeth warren's name because he couldn't with all those women he was considering for the second spot. >> dagen: on that note, new documents accusing the federal government of misleading the public on the war in afghanistan. spanning some three administrations. the new reports rocking washington the putting a major spotlight on america's longest war. >> i think our young men and women that we sent to war, our best in our brightest deserve better. imagine traveling hassle-free with your golf clubs.
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the documents contain over 2,000 pages of interviews that contradict optimistic public statements from the bush, obama, and trump administration's on progress made during the war. retired three-star general who is the afghanistan told government interviewers in 2015 "we were devoid of a fundamental understanding of afghanistan. we didn't know what we were doing. we didn't have the notion of what we were under taking. they knew the magnitude of this dysfunction, 2400 lives lost, who would say this was in vain? the pentagon reportedly pushing back saying there was never any intent to mislead the public or congress and those interviewed had the benefit of hindsight. what do you think about that? >> jason: this really bothers me. i went over at two afghanistan a couple of times, i suggested in 2010 we should leave. you cannot sit with your generals and asked them to find
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for me what victory looks like, it is so stone cold silence, we have the biggest baddest military on the face of the planet, they can do anything there set out to do but we didn't know what we were doing there or why we were there and it bothers me is has continued on in perpetuity. they misled congress because i was one of them, they let on the american public and they could not stand, should not get buried in all these other stories, we need to go back and look at thi this. >> kennedy: that's a great point and this is from a project called lessons learned matt was supposed to infer future incursions and not only the fundamental question of what does victory look like but why are we there in the first place? this general is saying we didn't understand afghanistan to begin with, not only the geography but how the country actually worked and then we started spending so much money to put it back together for what?
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>> katie: it's complicated, we were there because we got attacked on 9/11, one of the reasons why, there is a benefit in hindsight, more difficult, war is tough, also difficult to oversee the pentagon because you can make the argument that our troops are protecting the nation and i would say people that i've talked to, generals and soldiers alike who have served in afghanistan and in other places around the world have said they were there and the mission is to prevent another attack on u.s. soil so if that is the mission, they have been successful in that. that does not excuse all of the evidence that we have now in this 2,000 pages of information for the misleading statements for continuing the war when they knew they were making any progress and for spending trillions of dollars with results other than what they said they were doing initially. so the president has said he wants to get out, it has been difficult for him to do so even though he has had a clear mission of trying to get the peace talks done, the reason
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they failed that time is because the taliban again attacked americans in afghanistan and killed them. so it is obviously big for congress to regulate them. >> kennedy: we are supposed to internalize these lessons but a lot of mistakes from vietnam which robert mcnamara and everyone in the johnson and future administrations new that this war was unwinnable. that we are losing american lives at such a rate and in afghanistan, they knew the same thing. you don't have victory, you are not winning the war. you are losing the war and losing lives, civilians are dying and you have 2300 gold star families in this country, so will we ever learn those lessons in the future? >> dagen: as we move on to a different theater, we wouldn't even know that about vietnam if not for the pentagon papers
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frankly fanned the fight of "the washington post" on "the new york times" to release those papers. i first want to mention the 2300 troops who have died there, the 2,589 who have been wounded in action and 775 u.s. troops have been deployed. i think about them first but i also think about how all congress with all due respect could not manage the amount of money that was being thrown at this problem at this war. there was one fact that stood out to me, there was one contractor who told government interviewers he was expected to dole out $3 million daily. for projects in a single afghan district that was the size of a county. >> kennedy: we have to go, we are up against a break but that will be next. new numbers showing migrant arrests dropped months after months and they are working with
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my team's working overtime to make sure every veteran can refinance now to save $2000 every year >> this is a direct result due to this president's strategies to address the historic flood of central americans families illegally crossing the border. the network of initiatives have workd and continue to work. >> border chief mark morgan reacting to the latest dhs figures showing number of migrants turned away at southern border dropped in november for sixth month, down 70% since the border crisis back in may. leslie, do you know the president's policies are working
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on this? >> some policies might be working, democrats and republicans have talked about not building a wall, but using diplomacy with central american country and mexico, but further, we could have even more of a drop if congress acted on this, taking democrats and republicans and we redid current asylum laws in this country, that is part of the problem, and put more money into the judicial system, so many years of backlog contribute to the clog in the wheel. >> jason do democrats who call the president's policies concentration camps and inhumane, deserve credit for the numbers going down? >> donald trump deserves all the credit, congress hasn't done anything else. donald trump changed equation, he added diplomacy, do the wall on top of it. do the wall in addition and help solve this problem, but i got to tell you, god bless the men and women on the border day in and day out, amazing work.
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>> kennedy. >> it is a complex situation, a wall, lovely idea, fun chance, it will not cover it, eminent domain, issues in the courts in texas alone will be problematic. also, it is helpful that mexico isn't just open iing -- almost jammed my thermos to the electrical and blown us all to pieces. anyhow, thrown the door open and northern, as well, and allowed people and encouraged them. >> it flies in the face of narrative from the left that president trump can't work with mexico, that he doesn't like people south of the border or any other country. the it is this presidency working with mexico and central american government to ensure that we reduce the flow of illegal immigrants into this country and got a new nafta. >> u.s. ambassador on top of that. >> incentive for mexico to work with the united states government. >> and to create jobs there. >> results on the border are
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good. top story for a long time. happy results are going down. thank you to jason. "outnumbered overtime" live from washington starts now. >> harris: attorney general william barr speaking out for the first time since publicly disagreeing with conclusions reached by his own inspector general on the trump-russia investigation. he is doubling down on assertion the trump campaign was spied on in 2016. you are watching "outnumbered overtime," we've gone out to d.c. i'm harris faulkner reporting today from washington. attorney general barr, along with u.s. attorney john durham, both disputing key findings in michael michael horowitz report. the doj watchdog set to testify before the senate judiciary committee tomorrow. barr says publicly splitting with horowitz finding, the launch of the russia probe was justified. >> in one
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