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>> we did a story earlier, thanks for all the help you gave us. >> have a great saturday. neil: impeachment week. what if i told you it might have been the president's best week, he scored a trade deal with china, worked with nancy pelosi to get an even big trade deal with mexico and canada and just got the highest court in the land to hear his tax beef with democrats. that does not mean he will win but it does mean right now he is winning with investors. market averages racing to new highs and average folks racing to the stores, they are shopping, records dropping at
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the guy just like the president winning. boris johnson's victory across the pond has some saying it is a preview of coming attractions on the side of the pond. polls now showing a shift against impeachment in key states like michigan and pennsylvania and wisconsin. are you better off than you were in 2016? let's just say after this crazy back and forth on impeachment the president can rightly claim he is better off than he was last week. good morning and thank you very much for joining us this saturday morning. i am neil cavuto. on top of the president had over-the-top week, democrats weren't planning on it. now to the latest on what republicans say are democrat plans to put a stop to it. richardson on the impeachment vote that is coming one way or the other. >> reporter: house of representatives is preparing for a vote this week upcoming to impeach donald trump.
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31 house democrats will have to decide whether to vote to impeach the president, a majority of the voters in the district supported 2016. >> sometimes you have to make calls that aren't based on a poll or on a political consultant and if this is the end of my political career at least i'm doing what i think is right and basing my decisions on integrity. that is the most i can do. >> the impeachment vote set for trial in the senate. white house republicans say they are ready for this to move to the senate, dismissing the process in the house, what they call a political sham. >> for democrats impeachment is their drug, their obsession, their total focus and it is deeply disappointing they failed to meet the standards for themselves. >> reporter: the president and his allies working through the trial strategy whether to include the whistleblower. joe biden and his son hunter and an examination of their conduct in ukraine.
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that could open up precedent for democrats to call their own witnesses like senior white house officials. the supreme court announced it will rule whether despite subpoenas in the house, financial records and tax records can remain private. nancy pelosi says the american people will now have to wait several more months for final rulings. we are confident the supreme court, the highest court in the land will uphold the constitution. the rulings of the lower courts and ensure congressional oversight can proceed. the president's attorney said his legal team is pleased the court will review these cases. neil: the 2020 candidates weighing in on impeachment and doing so in the battleground state of pennsylvania, the state the president won last go around. they are trying to make sure that doesn't happen again.
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>> reporter: you can hear the education for him getting underway. we talk about what 2020 democrats are saying for the latest vote in regards to impeachment on the trail. all the candidates have expressed their support for this process. the last 24 hours since the latest vote to move forward with articles of impeachment, we heard some candidates address it directly. others talked sort of about it but have not specifically gone into detail. they said they had no choice but to move ahead with articles of impeachment. joe biden was asked about his son hunter. >> reporter: this man represents donald trump very well. he is just like donald trump.
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let him go. this is not a trump rally. this is a real rally. >> ever documented abuses of power, not only things that emerged in the hearings but stuff we watched the president do in plain daylight that require a response and something as grave and serious and historic as the impeachment process is not something we can view through a partisan political lens. >> in a country where we have a president who is a pathological liar, a president who is running the most corrupt administration in modern history. this is not somebody who should remain in the oval office of this country. >> some candidates could end of missing debates as this likely moves to the senate.
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the next debate is in question for different reasons. democrats are supposed to debate in los angeles, california but workers at the university set to host the debate on strike. all 7 candidates qualified for the debate say they will not cross the picket line even if it means missing the debate and their calling on the dnc to figure something out, move the debate or address issues workers are striking over, wages, healthcare, a spokesman with the dnc said they are working to resolve this issue, their party chair would not cross the picket line and would never expect their candidates to do so. they are working to reach a resolution that reflects dnc values or let the debate proceed as scheduled. neil: they had to change venues to avoid this sort of thing.
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>> the dnc is saying in terms of this particular situation neither they nor the university were aware of these issues until this week. candidates they we had to move it last time and it will be an issue where people will not still be on the picket lines. that is something the dnc should look at again. they hope to get a resolution in time for the debate. carley: thank you very much. stocks are not shaken by impeachment but stirred by progress on trade. >> the market moving on trade after china's commerce ministry held a news conference to discuss the progress in the trade talks. donald trump touted the deal at the white house. >> a lot of big things are coming.
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i say affectionately the farmers will buy larger tractors because it means a lot of business. >> reporter: a lot of business is right, china agreed to purchase $50 billion of us crops, increasing intellectual property protection and ending manipulation of its currency, the us will cut the 50% tariffs in half on $150 billion of chinese goods, set to hit $160 billion of chinese goods. chinese imports will remain in place. the president tweeted we will begin negotiations on phase 2 deal as well waiting until after the 2020 election. this is an amazing deal for all. could investors consider this an early christmas gift even though it was a choppy day of
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trading, stocks opened higher, with clarification on the deal. they are edging your all-time high. the nasdaq did end and record territory. neil: the markets, the rule of thumb through the process. will continue to be? time to talk to the wall street journal associate editor john duffy. and millennial politics, throughout this it has been about the consumer but ignoring all the noise particularly impeachment moistened focusing on buying stuff. that is the wind of the economy.
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>> it is the young consumer. they are spending 100-$500 per month. it was all necessity merchandise, and -- neil: the debt doing that, this is what they do. and the credit cards, they feel better about spending. without spending, given what they went through, the writers of the economy right now telling us the economy feels and looks better. neil: are you better off than you were four years ago?
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or whatever. when americans are polled on that economically they say yes, young people in particularly strong. that should be in the president's favor even with the impeachment stuff. >> i think so. we are better off and you also have another number that is 19% say the same, 22% feel they are worse off. it is a hard road to say we need to tax the billionaires and corporations, corporate tax, the highest s&p, 3168 versus 200 in january 2017 when the president took office, that record high 19,000, 28,000, just in uncharted territory, people are feeling better and it shows. >> i personally am feeling better but i'm in a very fortunate position. what i will say in regards to the stock market, the stock market is not the end all be
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all economy. there are other factors at play. neil: what about record low unemployment levels? >> we also have underemployment at work and people working jobs -- neil: which is better than it was in 2016. >> it is absolutely better. whether that will continue through november 2020 is a separate issue. we have to understand there is the wealth effect where people are feeling better about their financial position because they are looking at their 401(k) and retirement accounts and those are up but that is not something liquid that they can extract. neil: what do you think? >> of the market goes down - >> always used as a point of caution that 55% of people own stock, only 55% of people own stock. the stock market goes up as it has been a lot of people like out but that is a big number of
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people benefiting from the fact that stocks are rising, unemployment is low. it is a trend line that began in 2009. it began in 2009 and has been going up. neil: he put it on steroids but you are right, you can argue this. >> he did with a corporate tax cut. all these things have been a glide path that are good for the president, a good story for him to be telling going into the election. that said, the corporate tax cut has led to trillion dollar deficits, rising national debt. neil: doesn't come up anywhere. >> it doesn't come up in polls. when we talk about the consumer and people feeling better we -- it is bifurcated. neil: big words here. >> division between the okay boomers and young spenders.
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i want to add we are talking credit, 63% millennials don't have credit cards. neil: we will have you back to dig into this. forget impeachment. could a decision from the highest court in the land but the kibosh on all of this for the president of the united states? yeah, and he wanted someone to help out with chores. so, we got jean-pierre. but one thing we could both agree on was getting geico to help with renters insurance. ♪ yeah, geico did make it easy to switch and save. ♪ oh no. there's a wall there now. that's too bad. visit geico.com and see how easy saving on renters insurance can be.
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we're portuguese? i thought we were hungarian. can you tell me that story again? behind every question is a story waiting to be discovered. this holiday, start the journey with a dna kit from ancestry. neil: the supreme court willing to hear the case over the president's financial records. that could come up later this summer, in the middle of conventions and everything else, the oversight committee and that legal battle. congresswoman, thank you for taking the time. is your sense, always hard to read the supreme court but if it rules in the president's favor that you can't look at those documents, then what?
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>> then they are the definitive answer on those questions. you need to remember each of the federal courts below the supreme court has ruled in congress's favor, the president does not have immunity to these documents and the oversight committee in congress does have oversight and investigative powers over the executive branch. the supreme court consolidating these cases, deutsche bank and others does not necessarily mean they will not be in congress's favor with lower court supporting congress. >> the court may not pick apart who is who, in new york versus your committee or another committee but -- >> might just be trying to get a definitive answer. neil: even i understand that.
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collectively all three groups clamoring for these groups. and transactions go back a decade and is there any other alternative for you folks. >> there are individuals willing to testify. there are other cases coming up as well. the oversight committee is interested in tsa giving up the lease agreement because the email humans, their ari monuments issues. who has a lease with trump tower for the old post office in washington and the president cannot gain from the federal government or 4 in areas when he is in federal office so we are looking at that. there are so many cases going on.
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the question of whether or not they refuse to testify will in fact have to testify about conversations with the president as well. neil: a lot of republicans claim there is no there there in the ongoing impeachment effort, looks like it certainly will. what do you think of that? >> i'm shocked when my colleague say there is no there there. in this area, i saw the consternation on their face, the absolute shock from witnesses testifying. in the best interest of the president and their party but whether we vote against it in the senate acquits or there is, the president is removed from office eventually they are going to have to come to their
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conscience and we had direct and circumstantial evidence that have shown there were in peach below offenses. this is not something, i was not someone who came to impeachment at the beginning of the president being elected. i'm a democrat, i did not want him to be the president. he was the president and we move on. we haven't trying to legislate while the president has been in office. neil: whatever the virtues of an impeachment vote it is falling on deaf ears, not registering in battleground states. democrats are looking too zealous as much as republicans were going after bill clinton and it is the same sense. >> we have been methodical about this. on the earlier show people said the hearings were boring and that may be because we've not been trying to act in a zealous manner. this is not something a lot of us want to do. you talked on this show about those 31 democrats who have to
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neil: the battle is on, the president against impeachment in the house. it was set for a full vote later this week. the house judiciary chairman and member of the freedom caucus, andy biggs. it seems a foregone conclusion the president is going to be impeached in the house. they want to make it pass in the senate. the president would love to have witnesses come to the floor of the senate but it sounds like mitch mcconnell is saying quick, done, call it a day. where are you on this? >> i prefer to have a trial where witnesses for the president could come in and talk and bring some people, it would be fun to hear from
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volodymyr zelinsky, his testimony, or the whistleblower. i don't think you will hear from a lot of witnesses. it will go the first couple weeks, reports from house managers, the prosecutors are going to present evidence to the senators and that will take a couple weeks and at that point, if he goes forward to another 3 or 4 weeks with witnesses and have a full hearing or not. neil: the president coordinating all of this with mitch mcconnell, looks like an unseemly process, a rigged game. what do you think of that? >> it is rich coming from democrat colleagues who for three years said they wanted to impeach the president, called
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it a coup sometimes even themselves, talk about a rigged process. this has been a process that we knew at some point they were going to open up an impeachment inquiry. jerry nadler said months ago we were doing an impeachment inquiry and the judiciary committee even though there was no -- this was all baked in in the house and the question was whether they could provide compelling evidence and mitch mcconnell said the case is so weak in the house that he's not inclined to go forward and have a long trial in the senate. >> for democrats who say republicans are too close the way they coordinate with the white house counsel i can understand why you would have to be that way and who shows up for what.
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your defense of that process is interpreted as well. >> that is not what i am getting at. what i am getting at is hypocrisy, they complained about the process. i would like to see a lengthy trial where you bring in witnesses and c them. i was not allowed to go. i sit in the judiciary committee, they would not let us watch these witnesses because as a former trial lawyer, we look at each other and judging body language, it is critical to understand when you are adjudicating veracity and credibility you get to see them and -- neil: i judge faces and you had some doozies during the process that were memorable. now that that phase is over and it will go to a full house vote
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in the rules committee you have to work with these guys and they with you and if the president is exonerated he would then work with them. it is going to be weird. >> it is but we set things aside, on behalf of the people. you will see some bills come out this week. and there were warts all over, good stuff too. total bipartisan support, as more democrats signed on to my bill that republican bills and signatures on it. to set this aside in certain
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instances i will say there is some lasting harm done to the institution itself over this, not necessarily in personal relationships. neil: we will watch it closely. always a pleasure. rocket man with another rocket. it's the next one. you always drive this slow? how did you make someone i love? that must be why you're always so late. i do not speed. and that's saving me cash with drivewise. my son, he did say that you were the safe option. and that's the nicest thing you ever said to me. so get allstate. stop bossing. where good drivers save 40% for avoiding mayhem, like me. this is my son's favorite color, you should try it. [mayhem] you always drive like an old lady? [tina] you're an old lady.
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neil: the u.s. navy saying this morning it is possible promoting two men who were killed during the pensacola naval base shooting, naval air crewman, brave men in their own right. north korea is testing an engine of a long-range rocket. not supposed to be doing that. it is the second time in a week as kim jong un urges the president to ease sanctions amid the nuclear talks. my two next guest are impressive individuals. shouldn't be this hard to serve your country, along with iraq war veteran and where ends, both have had their battles in
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washington and both are trying to make this a better place beyond washington. i thought of you in light of recognizing those who were killed in pensacola. we've seen a rise in these incidents. what do you think? >> it is hard to say. for me as an iraq war veteran it is something i pay attention to a lot, making sure the men and women who served are given the services they need and are taken care of. it is hard for me to watch and i had to watch things like the fall of moses all where i was deployed. this is challenging as a veteran to see that happening. neil: when you have seen these reports in the case of afghanistan and our involvement there and politicians saying we weren't being honest, not so
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much talking about iraq to be fair but a lot of people listened to that and said why should i sign up and serve my country? >> it is challenging to see it happen to the political side but there's a lot of value in serving your country. at least for me it is important to be of service and to help those who need help and to serve the country in general is a great value and i value my service. it taught me a lot about discipline, honor and selfless service which we need a lot more of these days. neil: what i can't stand is how kind you are with everything you dealt with. i can't figure that out. the former secretary, you find out about a sweet, you're
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trying to remind people public service is a -- a lot of people reading about your experience, maybe not. >> what keeps me going is people like tom, and continued to serve. you can't help but be inspired. as a private citizen, you make this better for our veterans and it continues to motivate for me, tom and i continue to advocate those to make sure they are getting the best the country can offer. neil: do you think they are? you are trying to improve the services, not getting adequate treatment out of the
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facilities, how has that progressed? >> we are headed in the right direction. there has been a lot of progress that has been made but we are dealing with decades of dysfunction and systemic issues and it will take a wild. we have to stay at this consistently and with continuity, to make this work for our veterans. >> they are making a lot more progress than when i first started in 2008. it was my first exposure to the va healthcare system. i got out of the army in 2006 and it took a few years to ask for help them. neil: did you have to wait? >> i didn't have to wait but i was put through the system and put on different medications and it wasn't right for me at
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that time which is important when talking about healing from traumatic experiences especially war. you have to understand what is going on with the individual before putting them on a medication regimen because i was self-medicating with alcohol and other substances and medication on top of that. neil: how did you get through it? >> i took myself off these medications which i don't recommend people doing, to have your doctor help you with that, i didn't feel like a human and when i was off the medications i could feel the grief and sorrow and survivors guilt. sometimes we have to feel these things to understand the lessons in these events. neil: when you look at veterans and see them on both sides,
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many of them are appreciated or forgotten. >> to re-create the ability for veterans to help each other, and they are in a sustainable va system. to make people feel comfortable to talk about the issues, and looking for more effective ways, we are helping more people get through these tough situations. neil: on the front of the line for hospital services, not across the board but dropped the ball a number of times. >> when you do that you are undercutting the value of
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support. very helpful in my own hearing was connecting with other veterans. when you remove the system of the va you have veterans going in many directions and hearing from different providers. the va is unique in that i go to a hospital and i know there are other veterans i can connect with that have shared similar experiences even if they didn't deploy to iraq. maybe they are in afghanistan or the first gulf war or vietnam. when it is privatized and you take that aspect away which is really important. neil: and it was important to you. >> i don't think any of us believe it is working perfectly. we have to be open to new research. tom's journey is a great example. neil: you have bureaucracy and people going after you and making a big deal.
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>> a lot of people don't want to see a change but veterans push to make this a better place and we are on the right path. neil: thank you very much. it gets a little mindnumbing. suffice it to say i have covered this closely. no one did more for veterans than this gentleman. whatever the politics and whatever you heard, you made a tangible difference. tom put it all out on the battlefield. it was tough, it was very tough. thanks, remember what it means to be a patriot, stay with us, you are watching fox. even a "three-ring fender bender." (clown 1) sorry about that... (clown 2) apologies. (clown 1) ...didn't mean it.
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>> investigating another crash around the tesla car, it gets a little in the weeds here but who bit distorted out and tracy carrasco. >> reporter: the national traffic highway safety administration sensible investigate the tesla crash tied to the vehicles advanced pilot system which tesla says enables your car to accelerate and break automatically and doesn't mean it is completely self driving. look at the crash pictures from connecticut state police. you can see the damage done last week when a tesla model 3 rear-ended a state police car that was helping a disabled vehicle. the model 3 proceeded to hit the disabled vehicle. the tesla driver said his vehicle was on autopilot and he was checking on his argument backseat for the crash. the safety agency special crash investigation team inspected have a dozen crashes involving
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tesla vehicles where it was believed autopilot was in use at the time of the accident including a 2016 fatal crash in florida. drivers are advised to keep their hands on the steering wheel and pay attention at all times when using autopilot. no comment from tesla on the latest investigation. neil: politics and humor go well together. a victory looked inevitable turned into a landslide win that did not. >> it is how fingers.
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a big victory that didn't materialize. :sometimes it was one of the factors that turned victory into a landslide. it wouldn't be the first time someone appealed to sense of humor and americans and voters general sense of humor because it happens everywhere. republican political strategist, i thought it was clever and funny and obviously very helpful but we see it time and again. >> we sure do. i thought it was beneficial as well and i thought it was interesting the numbers after boris johnson got elected overwhelmingly went towards him when earlier -- they were trying -- neil: one of the last-minute ads. even donald trump in 2016 on saturday night live, that kind of thing resonates with folks. >> makes you a little more human. politicians have a tendency to
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be branded as stiff and sterile and this was a nice way to connect with someone. speaking of michael bloomberg, he appears very serious. you don't see him as a laughing, joking guy, more than some of the ads out there. neil: a popular venue, snl, barack obama popping up on the same show, clinton on the same show, depends on the venue and how it is done but it is done. >> like i said earlier it is a way to connect. connecting through humor is great. we've had enough of the serious, battling, negative political ads where you're just piling on, criticizing the candidate but it is nice to take a look at yourself with a little bit of humor and that helps and right now, why not try humor and if that is a way
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to connect with the voter it might help people's fundraising but you've got to break out of the pack and with boris johnson it looks like that area which you said was his idea and it worked. neil: some people trying to tell him this whole generation of people who don't remember that movie, that was very funny. i sometimes think if you do it effectively you can defuse an argument. i think jack kennedy successfully illustrated that by joking about his father's well saying he wasn't about to pay for a landslide. kennedy had a great sense of humor. they worked on that and exploited that. >> if you are a very wealthy -- i will never forget the ad on snl when they had the romneys who were very well off and
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after mitch and ann romney put on their tuxedos and ball gowns, poking fun at it and people relate to that because everybody knows humor is about connecting and if you can get to reach someone by humor that is half the battle. neil: will they try to do that? >> i don't know. >> a very good sense of humor. i wonder if he is comfortable enough pushing it. >> i don't think he finds what is happening right now very funny. he seems to be the victim of what is going on. neil: surprise your critics if you don't give them what the critics are saying. >> it would be great if people who organize things for trump would have him poke fun at himself. he has a big sense of humor and it would be great especially in times like this. neil: you are exactly right. laugh at your self and the
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neuriva. >> it's a sham, it's a hoax. nothing was done wrong. zero was done wrong. i think it's a horrible thing to be using the tool of impeachment, which is supposed to be used in a emergenn emerge. neil: all right, i'm taking a leave here, i don't think that the fan is -- i don't think the president is a fan of the impeachment, and is against him and it's going to play out more, hey, rich. >> good morning, neil. the house is on track to vote this upcoming week that he abused the power of presidency and obstructed congress. if that succeeds, president trump would stand trial in the
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u.s. senate democrats are saying that they took a thoughtful, methodical manner in approaching this. republicans call this nothing more than a political sham. so we move from there, republicans are working through their strategy on this, whether to broaden any senate impeachment trial to include the whistleblower. former vice-president joe biden and his son hunter and perhaps an examination of their conduct in ukraine. >> democrats call that a distraction and requesting the biden's testify could also open up the president, to call their own witnesses including the white house officials. >> and the inspector general released a report on the origins of the investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election. it found the fbi had legitimate reasons to begin the investigation that it was not motivated by political bias though there were significant problems with now fbi officials conducted it especially when it came to those fisa warrants and applying for them. attorney general william barr disputed some of those findings
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and he has initiated a separate inquiry into the origins of the russia investigation. neil. neil: rich edson, thank you, very much. the supreme court says it will indeed rule on the legal battle over making the president's tax and financial records public. its decision could come as soon as this summer, oral arguments slated for march. former acting attorney general matthew whitaker with us right now. how do you think this is all going to go? if, for example, the supreme court were to rule or you have to turn all of this over, then what? >> well, i think it's going to be really interesting case to watch because it's going to see if there are limits to congress's oversight abilities. we know that congress, as soon as they get documents, as soon as they would get these tax returns, they would leak them or they would be leaked to the media and that is a very dangerous situation because as you know, tax returns are probably one of the most
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confidential documents that an american submits to their government, medical records are in that same category of things that, you know, we don't want sort of walking around the street and so, i think this case is going to maybe back fire on the democrats in the house because it could put limits on their oversight ability and i think that would be an unintended consequence of some of the lawsuits that they have going on an all over the country. >> we don't know why there are a lot of reasons the president explained he could not release a lot of this information, this is going back 10 years so to his point, you have to wonder whether this is a pit of a witch hunt going on. having said all of that, the supreme court might not rule en masse on the three various groups that want to get their hands on these records so it's possible, i guess. i talk to lawyers, you know the subject better than i, he could rule on what the southern district court wants and they would be okay, about what democrats in various committees
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want and the rules committee and elsewhere. that would be a muddied decision and one that wouldn't advance them all, right? >> well, there's no doubt that a prosecutor, a federal prosecutor, especially that's where my experience is, you know, in a limited subpoena could obtain tax records. that's a very common procedure, but they would have to obviously make the showing and have, you know, meet the legal standards of congress's subpoenas and the attorney generals of new york if those are different standards, sort of like you said to put all of those cases together, it's going to be difficult to see exactly where that line is drawn, but i think the biggest issue for me in this whole case is what congress's power, oversight ability to request that and you're right, it appears to be a complete fishing expedition to get the tax returns, to not only most likely
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leak them, but pour through them and try to politically embarrass the president in an election year. >> and in the case of watergate, where the supreme court ruled 9-0 and then president richard nixon had to turn over the tapes shortly thereafter he resigned and you know the president fairly well. do you think if it ever came to that, and the supreme court said by whatever margin, release these records, that he would resign? >> no, and i think it's ridiculous to even sort of play these what-if scenarios. this president has led this country. not only through these difficult times, but i mean, in unprecedented times we've had the strongest economy that we've ever had. unemployment rates among blacks, latinos, the population generally is the lowest it's ever been. the stock market is strong. places where i go, they have more optimism about their businesses and their future than never have. this president has done more for this country than any president in our modern history.
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so i don't think that there's any scenario where he would, you know, would say this isn't worth it. neil: i thought i'd catch you at a weak moment, saturday morning, but you handled it. >> i've had my coffee. neil: as acting attorney general for a while, you know, a lot has been made of the relationship, the present attorney general has with the president. president obama's former attorney general, eric holder, blasting the relationship and the remarks that he has had since about the inspector general's report on covering these with the russia probe. having said that, holder was calling barr a partisan actor who is, quote, unfit to lead the justice department. but you might remember when he said this. >> i'm happy, i'm still enjoying what i'm doing. there's still work to be done. i'm still the president's wingman. neil: if bill barr had ever said i'm the president's wingman, man, oh, man, they'd be going
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into the justice department to haul him out. what do you think of that? >> i read eric holder's op-ed, and said how reluctant he is to criticize attorney general, i think he only criticized republican attorney generals, criticized me, jeff sessions, bill barr, but he didn't criticize loretta lynch when she had the clinton tarmac meeting. this is somebody who is a partisan player, spending a lot of time trying to flip state legislatures and being successful at it at the census. whatever he writes he's going to attack republicans. that's an example. bill barr is doing a tremendous job as attorney general and i know him personally and i think he's leading the department in the right direction. eric holder disagrees with it because it's against his policy and-- >> that's fine, you don't like the politics involved. i just think you've got to be
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fair and balanced in your coverage and i always remind my media colleagues, remember with john kennedy who had his brother robert kennedy. >> right. neil: as his attorney general and then chief confidante. i'm not saying it's any different then than now, but be fair and balanced with what you're reporting now versus then, your thoughts? >> that's true. the department of justice building is the rfk building. if there was ever a concern for a partisan and somebody that had the president's back, it would have been his brother rfk. neil: what is the role of an attorney general? when you're in the acting role and of course now bill barr's role, and when someone gets that job, it's not quite like another cabinet position because you could find yourself in a position where you are going after or challenging or pursuing something that is contrary to the president's interest. how comfortable should we be in that or should a president be in that? >> well, you're the chief federal law enforcement officer
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in the entire country. you lead the department of justice, the fbi, a.t.f. and the u.s. marshal's. it's 110,000 dedicated individuals. you give legal advice and it includes the office of legal counc council, which is the executive branch's lawyer that says what the law is. so you are candidates you've given daily legal advice to the executive branch, including the president telling them what's possible and what's not possible. and sometimes is that in controvention? we were always able to explain what the law was and how was followed. neil: when janet reno kept him auto of the loop in about back
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waco. she challenged him. >> and this is one of the things that eric holder disagreed with was bill barr's explanation. unified executive theory at the federalist society and eric holder disagreed and said that they' they're quasi independent. and all the power is manifested in the united states and everyone else is derivative of that. neil: you seem to know a lot about the law. thank you. >> thank you. neil: matt whitaker, i hope you have a merry christmas, my friend. and impeachment articles to the full house, we kind of know the drill, the political numbers. what if i told you in the senate it's going to be very, very different. i mean time-wise, i mean detail-wise, i mean
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>> it's taken as a given right now. the president is going to be impeached in the house whether he likes it or not. the senate obviously very different matter. where republicans are a comfortable majority there and mitch mcconnell already said probably on the side of short and sweet, even though the president himself indicated boy, he'd love to call witnesses and might want to talk to the committee himself. senator bill cassidy of louisiana, the senate finance committee joins us via skype. >> good morning, how are you? >> very well. thank you for joining us. let me get your take where you stand. the president would love to sort of have the possibility to get witnesses talk to he himself. mitch mcconnell seems to think the shorter it is and quicker it is the quicker they move on to
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other things. first, we need to be getting about the people's business and this is, if you will, you can issing up the energy that could be used for positive things. democrats seem more motivated by this president than they do what is actually supposed to be taking place, but i will be -- i'll be a juror, i will listen to the evidence, and i will do that which i am supposed to do. on the other hand they seem to be motivated by hatred of the president. neil: all right, do you worry that the senate might do in reverse what the democrats are doing, have too cozy a relationship even coordinating schedules and the like, dealing with the white house counsel on a friendly level and basis, that a lot of democrats are hearing and seeing that and saying this doesn't fly. what do you think? >> of course democrats are going to say that because they want something which is the most traumatic. on the other hand the american people will be the judge. we are quite aware the american people are watching so i personally am approaching this
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very seriously. on the other hand, when one of the democratic relationships says even if he's acquitted we'll come back at him next term if he's elected. this is not motivated for a desire for justice, this is motivated for hatred of president trump. neil: if the president says i want to get some things off my chest and i want to testify at this senate trial. would yousy, okay, good idea? >> i think that it's very important that-- i think it's very important that we stay focused. right now we're not working on lowering the cost of prescription medication because democrats have insisted upon this six month affair. we're not working on paid family leave. neil: i'm sorry, sir, i guess what you're saying about you on this, if the president wants to speak, would you advise against it? >> if the president wants to speak, i'll let others decide we need to get on with it and the
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american's business. neil: i'm getting the sense that this will be fairly fast, maybe no more than a couple of weeks, is that your sense? >> you're asking me to judge a process, neil, and it's hard for me to do. i'm just giving an opinion what i think will be best. if it turns out democrats want to call a bunch of witnesses, we'll call hunter biden. we can do a tit-for-tat. on the other hand is it about goring an ox, going after the president, or settling the charges sent to us and setting on with the people's business. neil: the president was saying yesterday, senator, that democrats be careful what you weave, paraphrasing here because there's a democratic president, republicans could do the same to that president. would you be inclined tit-for-tat, you know, an eye for an eye, a democrat were elected and something comes up to warrants at least some questions to do the same? >> that's not going to be this
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senator. this senator ran for office to do something good for the american people. on the other hand, one of my colleagues that said, whatever is done becomes the new norm, and so i think the way that democrats have so abused this impeachment process creates the case in the future if there is a democr democratic president with a speaker of a different party, then maybe that-- maybe that president should be worried not because they've done something wrong because of a political opportunity. because that certainly seems to be how the democrats have pursued this. neil: senator, the very week we had impeachment just sort of gaining scheme. the president announced this trade deal or tentative trade deal with china. do you think that was coincidence? >> i don't -- he's a president who's doing his business. clearly there were a set of tariffs that were about to hit
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potentially impacting christmas shoppers, the world economy slowing down in part because of the tensions between the two largest economies in the world. i think the president wanted to get the deal done and both sides came to an acceptable agreement. at least for so-called phase one. this is about doing the people's business. democrats can play politics. let's consider what the american people are about and isn't that a novel concept? >> senator bill cassidy. thank you for coming in via skype. >> thank you. neil: any way, senator, we thank you. >> appreciate it, neil. neil: have a merry christmas. president trump is asking how can you impeach him when the economy is just so peachy? is it peachy enough? the debate on that after this.
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and who better than bill simon. thank you for coming back. >> hey, neil, how are you? good to be back. neil: i'm well and looks like so is the american shopper. i don't know if this is a record season for shopping, but it's certainly a record in the aggregate. and obviously, it's popping up at walmart sales and what have you. i would imagine you're relieved by tariffs that were to kick in on sunday to be pushed back? >> i think any of the resolution of the trade war that's been going on between the u.s. and china can only help the economy and help the consumer. i don't think it's hurt as badly in the u.s. as many thought it would. i think companies and consumers have absorbed it pretty well. neil: well, walmart certainly has. walmart absorbed a lot of that, right? >> they did. walmart was able to mitigate a lot of the costs as were a lot of the retailers. so i think that a lot of our economy has stayed strong.
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resolution is important. >> going forward and phase two of the deal. we still don't know about the phase one part. ahead of the-- former ahead of a major retailer, others are saying same store sales and activity will be robust and we could see 4 to 5% gains over last year. does that surprise you? >> no, i think that the consumer is strong and has been strong. gas prices are low and jobs and unemployment, you saw last week, have hit 50-year highs and we've never had a full employment recession so i think that the consumers are strong and i expect a very, very good christmas selling season. >> you know, i've noticed and you know the retail department better than i. i've noticed the traffic more online than going into stores even, your wonderful stores and people waiting on a line. how do you describe the breakdown here? where are they headed?
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how are they buying? >> well, i think, the growth online has been tremendous in the 20 to 30%, but keep in mind, it's still only 12% of retail. so brick and mortar stores are cranking pretty hard as well and i think that mix will end up being somewhere around 15 to 20% online and, you know, the rest brick and mortar with a heavy skew towards food and fresh in brick and mortar and some of the hard-line stuff will be more online sales. i don't expect brick and mortar stores to go away. i expect them to be robust. if you're a good retail operator, you'll do well. >> when people are going in the store and buying well. we had a family talking about the fact that they're spending, all right. a good many younger shoppers are putting it on their credit cards. they're going into debt to do it. the levels are hardly the pre-you know, financial meltdown levels, but they are rising eyebrows. does that part of it worry you?
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>> it doesn't. i think if it continues, it might. for now i'm encouraged by it. the consumers' willingness to take a little credit shows that they have confidence where their future jobs prospects and ability to pay back that credit. so i think right now at the levels that we're at, it's pretty healthy and it's a good sign for the economy. >> do you worry? this is the same news out of home depot a couple of weeks ago was telegraphing strong earnings, better than expected sales, and lo and behold we've got an opioid mess that's compromising a lot of our warehouses, the supplies are being stolen. it's really crunching into our bottom line. is that a worry going forward? is this a home depot only event? or is there something bigger here and a lot of product is stolen, compromised, what's going on here? >> i think different retailers at different times have shrink issues. i've not heard anything beyond
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home depot with this particular incident. >> were you surprised that home depot detailed it? >> i was. it was really kind of unusual to see that level of detail in that kind of a discussion. neil: so when you have stolen merchandise or maybe even your own workers potentially, not yours, doing that, it got to the level where over years, it could be billions of dollars. i'm wondering, is this something people who watch the industry have to start looking at? >> well, i mean, shrink in retail if you're very good, you're 1 to 2% and the average is probably 3 to 4% in shrink, which is lost due to theft or damage. for home depot to details anything beyond that and be specific about what they think is happening, it's very unusual. shrink has always been an issue in a factor and it usually rises and falls based on your level of inventory. so if your inventory is high, your shrink is going to be
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higher. neil: this this case i think it was thrust by the opioid crisis and i'm wondering if that's just a new layer. >> again, it's hard to say. and i don't know the details of it, and i don't know, i don't know the folks at home depot, but it sounds a little like, it wasn't my faultish, blame it on the national crisis of the day and maybe they do have an opioid problem in their warehouses and if they do, boy, they sure do need some help getting it taken care of. i'm not sure i would have talked about it in a national release. >> from walmart, merry christmas to you. >> to you as well. neil: and lawmakers were able to pass a bipartisan plan that some say will have democrats crying come november. [crying] ent plan is, i don't want to retire? then let's not create a retirement plan,
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>> all right. impeachment or through impeachment, the house is looking at other things to do, by the way, and to look very, very busy and both sides certainly trying to do just that. but one thing they can agree on right now. it's an important enough to strike a bargain and a bipartisan one at that. they're surprisingly close. tracy has the details.
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ha hey, tracy. you might have missed this, but the house of representatives passed a bill including a provision providing 2.1 million civilian workers with 12 weeks of paid parental leave. that's a first in u.s. history. the price tag for the plan, 5.6 billion through 2029. the new benefit would apply to any birth, adoption or fostering after october 1st, 2020. they must have worked for the government, and 12 weeks after taking the leave. now, ivanka trump who long championed family rights said we have a historic chance to pass paid family leave and child care reform so everyone has the opportunity to have the joy of raising a family. they're expected to approve the measure. and then they'd go to the white house where president trump is expect today sign it into law. the provision for the federal
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workers, it's a big step forward, but what about the rest of us? a bipartisan bill on unpaid family leave could be much harder with democrats and republicans still split on how broad the policy is or proud it would be and how to fund the bill. neil: all right. tracy, thank you very, very much. we've kept you busy today. >> yes. neil: thank you for coming in. and will paid leave for family's tract the voters that the president needs and republicans need. back with noel, and we have rebecca walter and nathan ruben and john bussey. john, what do you think? >> it will certainly be a good talking point, but this was also a talking point in the 2016 election for president trump because this was discussed as an intent. will this kind of positive make up for all of the problems that the president has with women voters? we saw that in 2018, suburban,
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republican women voters, leaving the party, voting democratic, turning orange county blue. is it going to sort of deal with that headwind? probably not. that seems to be based on a lot of other considerations, but this is a positive for both parties. >> you know, rebecca, think about it. health care turned out and nathan reminded me this in the mid terms, turning out to be a much bigger issue than republicans thought and with the crucial factor and the democrats tipping it. how about this go round? >> i think that this is not a republican-- usually a republican position, this is a president trump position. you look at the democratic congress woman like caroline-- forget her last -- maloney, she's basically fighting for this for 20 years, when she had her first child, they said we expect you to leave. there was no such policy. and this is the largest employer in the united states and actually quite sweeping position change for republicans and i think that the difference here-- >> this is going to happen? >> it's going to happen. the senate is on board. it's going to happen next week
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and it's inside the national defense authorization act and it's not going to be extricated out, it's going to pass. neil: even democrats want to make this a policy nationwide for private-public workers. your thoughts? >> i think this is definitely a step in the right direction, but we're still lagging behind the rest of the world when it comes to paid family leave. this is something like rebecca mentioned that congresswoman maloney has been fighting for for a long time. is it a step in the right direction? yes, but it covers only 2 million people and i think what president trump is interesting to do, he'll slam the democrats as do-nothing democrats and here they are passing this bill along with the defense reauthoritization and other bills on behalf of the american people and sitting waiting for mitch mcconnell to pick it up. >> and i don't know how you square the do nothing democrats and a bipartisan basis and we're
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seeing it happen. neil: the president will pick up the issue where they're popular and where he's scored gains, prison reform and that sort of thing and this. >> i actually think the timing is great for president trump and the republican party because i think that this typically is something that -- this legislation is typically something on the left you'd see push through. >> and bernie sanders, you're looking live, he's speaking to an audience in pittsburgh, a lot of the candidates are in pennsylvania today. i'm sorry. >> no, no. going forward and this is a step in the right direction, going forward as a republican, physical conservative, i'd like to know how it's going to be paid for. because that's a lot of money that while its thoughtful legislation, it's going to be passed ap great for republicans, especially dealing with a sector that we're trying to recapture, which is the woman, the woman vote, i think that this is playing right into the hands
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good. but going forward, if we want to expand it, which i think is great. i'd like to just know how are we going to pay for it. >> noel, you're looking at such a small-- it's $5 billion out of a 787 billion dollar defense reauthorization and you're saying how are we going to pay for this? how are we going to pay for the other 780 million dollars? >> and deficits sadly not resonating as an issue. not yet and one wonders why it's not resonating in the republican party. mick mulvaney, a tea party guy, interviewing hem earlier this week, he says it doesn't seem like it's getting traction. at some point it will. will it be at a moment of crisis because we suddenly find we're having to pay higher interest rates on that debt? we'll have to see, but for the moment, it's spend, spend, spend. democrats and republicans. >> where are are the hawks?
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where are the organizations club for growth which got their start, steve moore founded that and then pat toomey took it over and they pride themselves on the deficits and-- >> only when you're a democratic president do you wear. >> here is what they do. >> well, i heard democrats lecturing this party on-- >> same thing in britain. reserves and spending-- >> i wish the democrats could be happy for just one time and actually-- >> i thought it was a step in the right direction. >> every step by democrat, yes, it's good and it's not far enough. we don't have the public sector and the private sector in it. there are countries that offered paid women leave for 59 weeks. now what happens, the employers that do this, they don't hire women and that's the natural reaction of the market. for just federal employees. >> parental leave. i love nathan's point that it doesn't go far enough. we have to go to the private sector. remember, when you tell the private sector what they have to
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do, an equal and opposite reaction, and they say we're not going to do that. >> the democratic party if you look at a smidgen of praise for president trump they're going to crucify you. >> it's not like-- we can't say yes, it was good. it's immediately, it doesn't go far enough. >> and have one happy moment between the two of us, we can all get along, kumbayah. neil: i think it started with bussey. [laughter] >> forget parental leave and forget impeachment. i want you to meet a cattle rancher who says the latest deal with china, got some issues. after this. they can save you these. in fact, if you had a dollar for every time they said it, you'd have a lot of dollars. which makes it hard to believe, especially coming from a talking lizard. pip, pip, cheerio! look, all i, dennis quaid, know is that esurance is built to save you dollars without skimping on service. and when they save, you save. the only way to know how much is to get a quote.
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tentative china deal, but he has said in the past that it tends to benefit companies, but not average americans. joining me now, a fourth generation of farmers for free trade. angela hoffman. welcome, thank you for joining us? >> thank you, neil, good to be here today. neil: we don't know the latest on the trade deal, phase one of the deal. the president said farmers are going to love it. what about cattle ranchers? >> well, let me talk about the industry at large and we've been looking at 18 months of uncertainty in the market, whether it's the negotiations with canada and mexico, china and more. there's been a lot of disruption in the market. so this phase one and we don't know all those details yet, but phase one is to calm things down a bit. we do hope that with the stand back on the tariffs that were supposed to be on the 15th that's going to calm things down a bit and then there are conversations about future. a g coming together. you know farmers, we want to see
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that boat in the water and making its way to our customers first. >> you know under past presidents, the chinese can say one thing, but like my diet resolutions, do quite another. what do you want to see? should there be a means where we can check the chinese and verify what they're agreeing to? >> well, in the context of china, we've had had decades of opening that market. whether that's your soy bean markets, corn and more, it's not only an opportunity to check them on this, but sanitary, and other ways to enforce deals and open markets that we have not seen before. neil: and the question i have going forward, angela. forget where we were a year ago and where we were before this whole trade war started. are you comfortable that you can? >> well, you know, we've been all across the country and literally from lacrosse to
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laredo, pennsylvania to portland and right at the iowa state fair. the bigger concern that the longer the trade war has gone on, theed-- the harder to get it back. and we have those countries filling that void. we've got to regroup and do business with our number one, number two, number three trading partners. neil: so you're optimistic, but cautious? >> you know, farmers are cautiously optimistic, we have to deal with weather, we have to deal with a lot of uncertainty in the market and right now, again, we also have the usmca moving forward so i think that's a good sign for the market there's some stablization happening right now. neil: that's the trade agreement or at least on paper between ourselves, the canadians and the mexicans. that looks good. that happened this week. this looks good and also happened this week. hope springs eternal. we'll see what happens, angela. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. neil: you know, it's probably one of the creepier images of the week. i'm talking about this hacker
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>> who is that? >> i'm your best friend. i'm santa claus. >> mommy! >> i'm santa claus. don't you want to be my best friend? >> you know, this is not a steven king movie. very scary, very creeper, very real. a hacker taking control of a ring security camera and taunting an eight-year-old girl telling he was santa claus as you heard and suggest that the child later on destroy things in her room. right now the father of that little girl joins us, dylan blakely. >> thank you for having me. neil: i can't fathom this. how did you first found out about it. did your daughter run into your room and tell you about it? how did you find out at first? >> i heard her screaming upstairs and i was actually like in the garage right below it, so i kind of just came in to see what was going on. because sometimes a bunch of
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girls are fighting so you have to check on it. and that's when she started telling me about what happened and at first i kind of didn't believe her that it was actually true. neil: so you have it all, with this system and setup you have you can go back and screen the tape or go back on the camera and hear it all and indeed, this guy's voice came up. i mean, did you find out any other examples of where he or others, you know, had hacked into your daughter's system? >> we have not seen anywhere anybody tried to react to our daughters. we were able to account for most of the ones that were recorded live, but we couldn't see if anybody had watched any of the videos that were recorded in the past, because the way the cameras work is that it will show like a blue video if there was any motion in the room and the camera caught anything, and it will be orange if somebody's live feeding and we were able to account for all the live feeds that we did up until the point about 8:17 that night. so-- >> do you know what's impressive
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about your daughter. she wasn't intrigued. she was scared out of her mind and then she wanted to talk to mom and dad right away. but you almost wonder if she wanted to hear more from this individual. have you learned anything about who it was, how he broke through the system? >> i think with all the coverage this has gotten, we were able to actually have people-- lots of people have been doing research on this and the first one that noticed it was coming from a podcast that was hosted on a discord server, that had no relations to discord, obviously, so we know where they're coming from now, so that's the best part about everything going live now. neil: where are they coming from? >> that's the only thing that we have not heard and that's the one frustrating part with me and ashley right now, we don't know where it happened out of, like what state, what country.
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neil: could it be neighbors or people nearby? >> it could very well be, but the thing is, from my honest opinion, it sounds like the same guy doing all three that i've watched recently and everybody else is in different states, kind of makes me wonder exactly what's going on. neil: so that's interesting. on this-- so at least three times this guy was communicating with your daughter, right? >> right, yes, sir. neil: over what period of time? >> it was just from 8:17 that night until about 9:00 that he was in my cameras because i unplugged them and probably about like 8:50 is whenever i figured out it was actually happening. neil: did he know at any time when your daughter left the room? did he try then and still, hey, where are you, anything like that? >> that's actually kind of what started everything, he was playing music through both of our cameras, trying to get somebody's reaction into the room because i think part of
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what they're doing in this server is just trying to scare people and just trying to -- it's almost like it's funny to them and i don't understand how, but they're just trying to get people's reactions. neil: do you still have the cameras set up in your daughter's room, a different setup? >> no, sir, we'll never put cameras back inside of our house period even on closed circuit. neil: you have cameras outside of the house. >> we almost want to consider doing it, but at the same time after this, we probably don't even want to do that so we're-- >> can't blame you. >> we're still, yeah, we're still scared. neil: can't blame you. dylan, thank you, very very much. you have a remarkable girl, common sense about her. you and a dad. more after this.
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impeachment will be over probably about mid january. >> all right, lindsey graham abroad saying it's going to be short, sweet and quick and i'll be talking to him on fox business on monday and get his take on things. so don't forget. ♪ . >> three years of political chaos and suddenly a conservative leader scores a big win. socialist policies hit with a crushing defeat, as they make big gains in blue collar areas. are we talking about the u.k. or the united states? good morning, this america's news headquarter, i'm ed henry. and they lay it out on the front page. boris johnson basked in the victory. and they're urging they find closure, let the healing begin. something politicians in america may be seeking
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