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because it's not worth reading. maybe he wrote a book, the guy's problem is he doesn't read a book. [laughter] whatever happened to him? we never hear from anymore. >> he wrote a book and is trying get me to it interview him. mark: go on the don lemon show, it's great to see you a you are here about a year end a half ago. my audience loves you. the fox audience loves you. my radio audience loves you. why do you think that is? why do you think you are different than so many other hosts? >> look i said this in no seven and zero eight. i said journalism is dead.
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i meant it. it's worse now than it has ever been. if you go back to zero seven and zero eight, mark, what do i do that's different? what are the things you do or rush or anybody else. we give news and information in an entertaining way that you cannot get elsewhere. nobody wanted to vent barack obama and zero seven and zero eight. nobody wanted to do it. so we started digging it was her learning about frank marshall davis, and black liberation. mark: and i was told you better advise sean that you're going the way out on a limb here. luke gingrich called me and told me is blowing at my career. he said you're going to kill your career. i said why have to pursue truth. and it wasn't even a question for me because what i was discovering was a level of radicalism that was scared me. imagine if donald trump had ever started his career, his
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political career in the home of unrepentant domestic terrorists from underground. you have bill ayres 91101 of all days. that morning paper in the new york times wishing he had done more. and they bomb the capital newark police headquarters in another of none other incidents. how do you associate with people like that? because if donald trump did it or any conservative data, you and i both know they'll be treated very differently. so the answer to your question, i don't think about what i do. i just keep focused on everyday grinding out four hours of news and information that i believe is important. these are very different, troubling times. i have spent now, people don't know what we do. i'm a talk show host on radio and tv. i am a member of the press. i can produce hours and hours, thousands of them a straight news reporting. on tv and radio. i can produce thousands of
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hours of investigative reporting. obviously offer opinion and i am honest and i am a conservative. we talk about sports and culture sometimes. i liken it to what i do is, we are the whole newspaper. you have the news, local, national, international, et cetera. but then we also have the opinion page. so i do it all in one thing. that's what the talkshow host does. i know people diminish it. now if you look at any other cable news channel they have an agenda. and i don't know what it is about this president in particular, but has gotten to the.that what they are doing is dangerous to the country. they are misinforming people. they are lying to people. mark: i want to get on the press thing but then i want to get to the president. isn't it fair to say, and i know we do similar things not the way we do it, but we give our opinion. we are honest about our opinion. people know where we stand. we also use the news. we use the facts.
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like every other citizen does out there. isn't the difference really the difference between the modern newsroom, and what you and i do, transparency, integrity. we are honest about what we do. you have people who run around and say they are journalists but they are not. they are democrats, they are liberals, they are anti- trim, they have an agenda and they call themselves analysts. i don't know what that means, but they give opinions. >> they say they're journalists and i think in their minds they believe that. mark: look, i have zero respect for people in the news industry these days. the ones that call themselves journalists. because most of them are corrupt. honestly, it's funny because sometimes we get accused, owes tv, i've been a conservative my whole life. everything donald trump is doing, lowering taxes, ending
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burdensome regulations, putting people on the supreme court, securing the border, i'm a free trader but i believe in fair trade. the way he annihilated them in syria by getting rid of the rules of engagement from the obama era, taking down bag daddy. we see such incredible success because conservatism works. is this is something you and i have championed out our entire careers. the years she worked as a chief of staff in reagan's years. it's not an accident when you do these things economically, you see the prosperity follow. we now have the best employment situation since 1969. mark, the mets won the world series and i can tell you their entire lineup. when you see, and i'm particularly happy because i was one of these forgotten men and women. everyone knows the background of my life. but when you see record low unemployment,
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african-americans, set hispanic americans asian americans women in the workplace, youth employment. it happen for reason. un burdensome regulation and you'd have jobs and obama said would never come back are back. you have prosperity that we haven't had before. and you see a country now thriving once again. >> let's circle back on this meaty issue. it's very, very important. you say you're conservative and i'm a conservative. we've talked about it, written about it, i've talked about it written about it. to sum it up, conservatism is a belief in our founding principles. >> correct. mark: which is now called right wing. how can they believe in our constitution, our founding principles, individual liberty, the bill of rights, the private property rights, natural law pride god-given rights --dash how can that be right wing and yet the media today call us today right wing. why? because they are radical progressives.
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they are pushing social activism. >> radical progressives, extremists, their very much status by the way they propagandize against us and tried to diminish what we do. there is almost, i've been talking a lot about recently to be in the mob in the media today, and i call them a mob because they have a mob mentality. and they all think alike. it's actually a little scary. but you have to for example have the whole mueller probe and all of the outrage over what russian interference. i believe russia interfered in the 2016 election, i believe there's a hostile regime. but what did obama do about it? nothing. that is separate and apart from whatever potential election interference ukraine was involved in because you creating in port said so in general 112017, politico wrote about it. but i want to stay focused. you have to come apartment
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allies your brain and the wider care about russian collision but not when hillary has a bought and paid for russian dossier that's full of lies that was leaked before the election to the american people to influence the election. and then we know how it is used after. this was a huge newsweek because things that i have been discussing, you have been discussing and a few of us have been peeling these layers of the onion. and what we have been telling our audiences is that this dirty, unverifiable russian dossier was not only the bulk of information, it was the information that secured the pfizer report one more. and more importantly when andrew mckay had thought he said if you don't have the dossier you don't have the pfizer report. turns out he probably did say it because that is true and that's with the inspector general found out. this level of corruption, to
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your original.how did the media run with a lie, how did they get it wrong? how did they not investigate? how did they not look? and even on day one they try to take one phrase of the inspector general's that it wasn't politically motivated and he was exonerated. and when lindsey graham question him on that very question nobody involved is been vindicated. but to finish the thought, to be a liberal, you only care about from russia collision. you'll ignore the dirty dossier. and when the mueller report, the fourth investigation into shrimp russia activities, we know the fbi investigation found nothing. the bipartisan senate found nothing. the house and tell yvette gage and found nothing. the mueller report found nothing. there is a destructive quality to their status and. you once had a very profound line in one of your great books. we are living in a post- constitutional america.
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now the time, some of us paid attention, we'd better start paying attention to those principles now. and we are 324 days, today, away from the next presidential election. and thank god we still have the american people will make the final decision. and i think -- will is talk about tipping.elections, there is never been a bigger choice. there is never been a more important moment in this country's history. this will determine the future for your grandkids, my future grandkids maybe, but we want to leave this country better off. mark: got one minute left in this segment yes or no. pfizer report and inspector general. it found surveillance that it not? 's speemac they spied of corseted they spied. mark: they found that evidence
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was doctored and e-mailed that it not? >> it absently dead. mark: they found the dose he was a fraud did they not? >> correct. mark: they found the dossier was the critical points and get in the dot and the five support. >> correct. >> they found over 50 examples of rule violations and procedure violations. fifty-one and appendix ones. seventeen highlighted an executive summary, correct? >> correct. >> and what did the media report? >> nothing. mark: it's not political? >> exactly i know we talk about these things personally and off-line personally. you heard me say premeditated thought perpetrated in the pfizer court, denying one american citizen, carter pages constitutional rights and civil liberties. more importantly, it's the one step to step. at back toward this corrupt
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deep state, which people said didn't exist. it gave them a backdoor to everything from world. trump campaign, trumped transition, and then as deep as the attorney general said deep into the trump presidency. mark, you love our constitution, that's your wheelhouse. these types of violations of civil liberties. this abuse of power, this level of corruption is unprecedented. i have been saying for two and half years, this defines your prediction. and your admonition andrew warning that we are in a post- constitutional america. mark: we come back i want to pursue this. because, the problem here is from my perspective we talk about the deep state. and the media says there's no deep state. the media is part of the deep state. >> that's the problem. mark: but i want them pursue
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this impeachment issue. i want to go through the constitution what they've tried to do to this president and how we are looking straight in the eyes of tierney right now. spoke folks don't forget you can join me on levintv. join us by calling 844 levintv 844 levintv or go online to blaze tv.com/mark we'd love to have you. we'll be right back. drivers just wont put their phones down.
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mark: now you know any document this over and over again. the attempt to destroy this president was before he started being president. he also had the interference of the obama and the election. along with the russians, the north -- but the obama administration. they try to get this president on campaign-finance issues. there were legal analysts saying their secret indictments in place. of course that was a lie. that was fabrication. we have this talk about the emoluments clause. most people have never heard of the emoluments clause. and there's nothing to do with that clause.
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the trump hotel, it's irrelevant. so that did not pan out. this massive russian collision for two and a half years, this pfizer report actually tells us that was a complete scam. the appointment of this counsel to investigate something that was started by all this corruption at the top levels of the fbi. and by the way, mr. horwitz, mr. horwitz can't explain motivation if he doesn't admit it's political. and we have the mueller report. 500 pages of really vindication. there is nothing in there that says you committed a crime. it's not like the clinton report where we had 11 felonies that were laid out by kent star. or the nixon case. now we have ukraine. a phone call that was perfectly fine. perfectly, i have looked at every single word. it's perfectly fine, no problem. and now they are going to impeach the president on to joke of accounts, that you could try a bus through they
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are so broad. you've been one of the folks from the beginning, you've said this is corrupt, the media's crêpes, this whole thing is corrupt. you have come under attack by newsrooms. you have come under attack daily and so do other people who support the president of the united states. you've never seen anything like this before have you? 's b5 it's never been this bad. they speak in one voice now. it's there is a swamp. when you drain a swamp there is a certain level of water that you pull out and then the swamp creature start coming out. and the swamp once to protect the swamp. and they want to stay alive. because this is what they do. at the end of the day they are not about serving people, you've got to remember something here, this is where the republicans and democrats get off all the time. they are supposed to serve, we the people, we elect them to serve. that's why when they don't fight for their promises it frustrates us.
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both of us have been fierce critics of republicans for along time now for being the weak, timid, spineless, backless, vision list, they didn't even know 65 show votes on repeal or place mattered nowhere to be found. but i don't want tiger to digress here. because this is very critical. not only is this an information crisis, this is -- they are an extension of all things radical extreme, socialist democrats today. they have, it is inexplicable the amount of rage, psychosis, and hatred they have for this president. they never got over his when in 2016. it really, we the people shocked the world and they did not see it coming. another time i went out on a limb, and iceman the last two and half years, your rights i put together a great ensemble cast. i can't name everybody to give them credit and we pursued this story with a vengeance.
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day and night we double, triple, truck or drupal are sources. and we dug deep. everything that i've been telling people happened happened. everything that the mob and the media told people about trump russia collision was alive. the holy grail was supposed to be after three previous investigations, the mueller report. yes it vindicated donald j trump and they tried to manufacture some phony obstruction. the net died on the vine. in this ukrainian issue, first it was acquitted in a pro". and then they said no occult bribery. bribery. and then no, will called extortion or whatever they want to call. none of which was in the phone call. here's the most immobile amazing things jim jordan talks about. the four points that will never change. i won't repeat them but the reality is aid was not mentioned in that phone call, not one time. and the people that told us we needed to care a lot about any interference in our elections,
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they ignore ukrainian court decision. they ignore politico's extensive report on generate 2017 on how they tried to assist hillary clinton. you'd think they would want to dig down and find the truth of that story. and here's the president saying, and these were keywords that phone call. when the president said do us a favor, because my country, we've been going through this for three years. you think the people who claimed that they care so much would support the president in that. i would also argue constitutionally that the president has a sworn oath to faithfully execute the laws of the land. and that would mean, he is also the commander in chief, and that would mean not allowing foreign countries to interfere in our elections. and the great irony, i mean you couldn't write a novel or everything that they accuse donald trump of they themselves are guilty of. the only russian interference we found in 2016 was hillary's dirty bought and paid for,
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russian unverifiable dossier that was then used to take away one individual's constitutional rights inspired on a candidate transition team for president. but you look at the ukraine issue, it's like it's almost like inexplicable. there is no logic behind this. or when the pfeiffer tatian i mentioned the last segment, how do you would know or joe biden. i love playing joe biden tapes because he is the dumbest guy running for president and he can't help himself. this guy has lost it. if he ever had a comment i don't think he ever did, he's lost it. he's on tape saying you are not getting the billion dollars, you are not getting it unless you fire prosecutor. now on the surface. mark: that's the quid pro quo. >> why with the vice president eyes states demand the firing of a prosecutor? we now know the nur times and
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others said they were investigating his zero experienced son. sun goes on "good morning america", a 49-year-old man this is not a kid. it was probably the dumbest interview i have ever seen anyone give. do you have any experience in the ukraine? no. any experience in gas question oil? energy? no. what qualified you to make millions? i saw it. [inaudible] >> why do you think that shows you? why would they pay you millions of dollars? i don't know. do you think maybe it's because your father is the vice president in charge of ukraine? yeah, probably. so you've got quid pro quo joe, that is what they are accusing donald trump of. they themselves are guilty of. now mark, this is not just a mild omission on the mob's
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part. this is outright lying, corruption, propaganda, and i use that sadism, this is state run television. then they go after anyone who does like the president. and more importantly you have to shut off your brain to be that intellectually dishonest, that hypocritical. you have to defy reason and rationale and common sense. mark: i agree we'll be right back. going new places. anytime. rewarded! learn more at the explorer card dot com. as a doctor, i agree with cdc guidance. i recommend topical pain relievers first... like salonpas patch large. it's powerful, fda-approved to relieve moderate pain, yet non-addictive and gentle on the body. salonpas. it's good medicine. hisamitsu.
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mark: sean i want to talk briefly b5 reagan on let me tell the story about you first bonus was going on during the break. you can tell, i want to tell give me one minute. can i do now. i think it was during the clinton impeachment. you and i just start talking. and i realize this guy is brilliant. mark: the first time we met? sean: we were doing a show we're in the middle box and we were in the liberals. and they kept talking liberty is not a wad. mark: us on the monitors they're both in my ears. so i. sean: come to my show fill in on my radio show's side of the hired in the intro out your
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thing. final do the blue card i am mark live-in filling in for sean hannity called me this number. after you say that. mark: was that 48 or 50? sean: i wrote one for each segment. and i would send mark live-in for sean hanna and niall here's her number. i knew, and i begged them to do saturday show for for a year. a sunday show. for free, and you took it out on me, but then, you got on after me on her station in new york. and then you got syndicated. and then you got on tv. but the.is this, i love this guy, he is such a national treasure and it was pulling teeth every step of the way to talk you into everything. mark: that is true. sean: thank god because that is the story.
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mark: let me say this you are a great friend and a great patriot. and you are very supportive of young people, of other people. there can be people in this business who don't want any competition so they try to destroy them. you are not that way. let me ask you this? let's take a look at this transcript drove fast. which is why the democrats don't really want to tell the truth about it. the president says do us a favor. us. he's talking about the country working with the a tendril attorney general and he says it to get to the bottom of the ukraine interference in our election. so it is the media say? there was none. the same media that pushed the phony russia collusion, truck campaign, now we are expecting to believe them. they ignore politico, they ignore the new york times, they ignore foreign policy magazine they ignore the
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evidence. they will not pursue it. sean: they ignore it a ukrainian court. mark: they ignore that from 2016 and in fact they did interfere. chuck todd berates people this is the mantra in the propaganda. and then you go later into the phone call where the president raises hunter biden and joe biden. the president did not have any secret classified information on this. it was in the newspapers. the only person who didn't know about apparently in the whole country was joe biden. but the fact is the rest of the nation knew about it, it had been written about extensively. and joe biden bragged about his quid pro quo interfering in an investigation in ukraine that did, or could have involved his son. and so what do the democrats the media do? they turn on its head. oh, the president dared to mention this in this grand conspiracy that the
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president's involved and that includes the attorney general because he tells them to work with the attorney general. people say to me interfering with the election, that's not interfering with the election you know what's interfering with a 2020 election they are using our tax dollars, hijacking the house of -- we have an election less than 11 months. no presidents ever face this, no president has ever been treated like this and no president has ever had secret testimony, count call witnesses,'s counsel can't be present, this whole thing is a sham it's about 2020. just like obama and interfered in the 2016 election, now they are interfering in the 2020 election. 's b5 i want to know if obama what it do no winded did they know? mark: never comes up. sean: you can't have a counterintelligence investigation without it
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starting in the oval office. mark: this is, we get to the deep part of the root of all of this i will guarantee you it goes into that. because there is a line and the strength page text of the white house wants to be informed every step of the way. very telling, just like insurance policy. just like hillary should win a hundred million to zero. there's a lots of dissected both said that. you are right about joe and you are right about hunter. it's a quid pro quo with joe. but here's the really twisted, ugly, sick, psych ops part of it if you will. i once read a whole paper document a synthesis of russian mind control techniques. by the way when you talk about ukraine election interference you are not denying russia interference. we agree, it happens. and i wouldn't be surprised, because i know hillary's secret server that other countries try to interfere and that's what they do to hurt us. but i will tell you when you get to the bottom of all of
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this, you see corruption at a level aligning, and smears, slander, this merchant, character assassination, and outright state tv. now the danger in this, as black as white white is black up is down up is down is up. so it sort of like a 1984 scenario here where people that do tell the truth, they are exported. and my fear is that there are so many in the mob, and they are one voice. they are in unity. remember we are debating if this is a manufactured crisis on the border. when meanwhile the second term of up, they sound like donald trump. but they so hate donald trump, that it's okay they will forget everything they said a year end a half ago. where we are right now, mark, is we -- the great news is the
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american people have the final say. and we're going to go through this charade. they are dragging this country, they are hurting this country, this isn't not good. what they've done to this president, his capacity to absorb it is unbelievable. but what they have done to the office of the presidency to weaken it, how they are now minimizing something is deep and profound as impeachment, is beyond troubling. but at the end of the day, they have spent nearer leave three long years doing nothing. mark: all right, we'll be right back. hard to believe, especially coming from a talking lizard. pip, pip, cheerio! look, all i, dennis quaid, know is that esurance is built to save you dollars without skimping on service. and when they save, you save. the only way to know how much is to get a quote.
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mark: sean hannity, donald trump is quite a remarkable president isn't it? sean: you know i've been a conservative my entire life and career, the 31 years of radio and now my 24 theater fox. everything i've always wanted for this country original to this court, the biggest tax cut in history, the massive deregulation to help business and industry grow, prosper and thrive. everything's taking off the rules of engagement. mark: you've been proponent of israel. >> it's an honor to be here with the first jewish president of the united states. look what is done for israel, recognizes sovereignty, the embassy to jerusalem, and the rights for the territories that they have. that is important. his trade deals, the wall is important, there's never been a president this conservative and you know what a big fan i was of reagan. that i've never witnessed one guy fight so hard, that some
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people say he's gotta stop tweeting, okay, the guy that's fighting all day long to fulfill his promises and fighting a mob, and fighting endless investigations is not going to turn the switch off and start being oh, i like to say my prayers to everybody tonight before i go to bed. but i will tell you this. the way this is going to play out, they are gonna play their games. the people who are waiting in the freezing cold rain in hershey pennsylvania that we saw this past week, and the 30,000 inside arenas and a 30,000 outside arenas, they have had it. they've had it with what the democrats, the do-nothing democrats and this medium mob are doing. and i'm in a tight what's gonna happen in 324 days. the people that see this success, we always judge elections by peace and prosperity. when people see what he did two beats at the end take down bag daddy to keep his promises on taxes, judges, immigration,
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deregulation, better fair trade deals, and every other promise that he is kept, they will stand in the freezing cold rain, snow, for as long as it takes to stop this from happening to this country, what they are doing. it is shameful, it is a disgrace, it is hurting the country. it is putting this constitutional republic that we love at risk. this is now what is at stake here. the people understand it. there is a great schism between the mob and the swamp, and we the people. and i look at these polls for example i'll take the seven recent polls. support for the president and the african-american committee. the lowest had him at 16%. one had them at 34.5, one haddam at 34, one haddam 33. even gallup had about 22 i believe. what that is telling me, because he only got 8% of the african-american vote, but what he has done for record
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after record after record amount low unemployment for the black community and how he is helped every demographic group in this country, there is a shift, an earthquake that is going underneath the surface. edit is going to explode november 3 of 2020 and i predict, and i hope, you never know you always play like you're behind, that this president will be rewarded for keeping his promises. for fighting for the american people. for being able to deal with more stress, more structure, more fundamental of fairness, more psychosis than any other president that we have watched in her lifetime. and reagan was hated to. mark: me come back i want to ask you if the democratic party on full socialist? has the democrat party come full socialist and doesn't this give the american people, in addition to everything else a very clear-cut choice. folks don't forget most week nights you can join me on
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mark: president trump will be running against a socialist won't? sean: socialist? this is so bad. you could not even write it this bad. you are a student of history, socialism, statism ever were, mark? mark: no. sean: answer it leads to poverty. when you look at these proposals, and 94 trillion-dollar, we only take in 94 trillion for four years. it's not hard. elizabeth moran, 52 trillion medicare for all. excuse me, that's in ten years. it is mathematically impossible, and if you don't believe me, don't ever trust the government. reagan warned us. freedom is about one generation away from extinction. he was rights.
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if they ever get power, and they want to get rid of the white blood of our economy gas, combustion engine, cows, bad. and airplanes. and everything is free. just remember, how did it work out? keep your docket keep your plan and save money on average twice $500 a year. we have nearly 40% of americans that have one healthcare exchange option choice. and the average option increase that they plan they promise to save us money is up 274%. you know what? these are false promises that every socialist makes. mark: they're lying are they? sean: of course they're lying and it's also predicated on the idea that they are powering you begin to take their money their money their money in them are going to give it to you. as if we don't pay enough in taxes the way it is. mark: let me ask you question. multiple know these politicians cannot be trusted. most of them managed to get elected but they are not
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particularly smart or experienced in anything. they show us every time they have a debate. so why confer so much of our liberty and our wealth, and our well-being on people who don't have the foggiest idea of what the hell they are doing. it's. sean: false security but you pay this price. for everything they are offering you, you give up your liberty, and your freedom. their favorite topics. these are false promises that could never be fulfilled. and if americans were to choose this path, i don't think we would recover. mark: i agree with you, we never seem to gain our liberty back. we'll be right back. ♪ limu emu & doug and now for their service to the community, we present limu emu & doug with this key to the city. [ applause ]
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media mob, it's very interesting if you think about it, donald trump is of the corrupt republican party. they didn't do their job and what makes him so unique is that he checks off the list, it's refreshing that he doesn't take any crab. he fights back and occasionally says a backward if they are offensive. >> i will say this. in this impeachment with ukraine, for the first time in a decade, i see a revived legs republican party writing. i'm not a registered republican. you know how angry i've been.
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i say it all the time. this is the first time i see them standing up. now fight for the tax cuts, more the regulation. help him fight for we the people so more americans pulled out of poverty and more americans get success so it's not just one generation from extinction, we once again become the freest greatest country on earth, shining on the hill because it's never a country accumulating more power and use their power to advance the human condition. america did that for the world. i have to use my power to say goodbye. >> why don't you get two hours? >> ten hours. what a pleasure it is.
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>> i'm glad to be on your show. >> see you next time on life, liberty. ♪ welcome to "watters world". i'm jussie waters. impeachment is the word tonight. >> it doesn't feel like we are being impeached. >> they call this impeachment. i'm having a good time. >> the craziest thing, trump is not even impeached. nancy is keeping the articles in her purse. she hasn't even sent them to the senate yet. when they get sent, then impeachment is official. she wants to play games. she wants to wait and squeeze a little more trauma out of this deal.
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