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today, deriving a series of name and ownership changes, now it is known as the flamingo of las vegas. 73 years after it first opened. >> if you knew what it was going to be back then. "outnumbered" is right now. >> julie: will begin with a fox news alert, president trump stepping up to push back against democrats as house and senate leaders remained deadlocked on the next steps ahead for a senate trial. the president waiting this "why should crazy nancy pelosi just because she has a slight majority in the house be allowed to impeach the president of the united states? guard zero republican votes, got no crime, the call with ukraine was perfect with no pressure." but now lisa murkowski of alaska is telling in anchorage television station she's "disturbed" to hear senate majority mitch mcconnell rally
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to "total coordination with the white house and the senate trial." i'm julie banderas, lots to break down with you today. here today, katie pavlich, fox news headlines 24/7 reporter carley shimkus, capri cafaro, and in the center seat with fore very first time, fox news correspondent griff jenkins and he is "outnumbered." we will get reaction from everybody on the couch and just a moment. live from west palm beach, florida, near where the president is staying for the holidays. >> good afternoon, julie. president trump is at trump international golf course this afternoon, decided to send out some tweets and thoughts on what he thinks on impeachment, what he just sent out also "the radical left, do nothing democrats wanted to rush everything through the senate because president trump is a threat to national security. they are vicious, will say anything, but now they don't
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want to go fast anymore. they want to go very slowly. liars." house speaker nancy pelosi has a 36 seat majority, withholding the articles of impeachment from the senate to delay a trial there. democrats want to try to force senate republicans to agree to an impeachment trial that includes witnesses. one republican senator is expressing concerns with the impeachment strategy. lisa murkowski of alaska told a local television station she was disturbed when she heard the majority leader mcconnell wasn't total coordination with the white house on our senate impeachment trial. and now house democrats say they are optimistic more republicans will join her. >> the republicans, it was nice to see lisa murkowski come out as she has done in the past and i think you will see mitt romney and maybe susan collins and some others come around to the fairness of the process. >> mcconnell has called impeachment a "political
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charade." house democrats say they could pursue more impeachment charges against the president beyond their two they approved just last week. julie? >> julie: thank you very much. i will go to capri first, i want to talk about the president street because he is angry but in his tweet he talks about how she was narrowly voted in as the majority of the house. it still gives the democrats every right, though. according to the constitution to impeach a president, that's why there is a checks and balances system but your reaction? >> capri: number one, elections have consequence is on both sides. we democrats need to accept the fact that president trump won the electoral college, constitutionally that makes him the president of the united states legitimately. democrats won the house majority, they now are in the majority. the impeachment process is a
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political one in the sense that it's the house rules that ultimately govern the process in the chamber. right now, speaker pelosi is holding onto them because she thinks that holding onto them and not giving them to the senate is going to give some leverage. i do believe it is in her right to hold onto them, no different than any legislative process where you have to send that message from one chamber to the other. but now it's really going to be down to the american people whether or not there investigation into impeachment fatigue will be held against nancy pelosi or if we will see people like lisa murkowski and mitt romney step up. they had a lot of criticism in the kavanaugh hearing. >> lisa murkowski voted against kavanaugh. >> julie: collins, rather. >> katie: look, this is about nancy pelosi not holding her fellow democrats to standards. it was very bad for their country, very defensive and here
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we are with no bipartisan support in the house. she can hold onto the articles if she wants to bet she's violating basic american principles of a speedy trial when you are accused of a crime. even though some of their own witnesses now are saying that the president is not impeached until the articles are sent to the senate and the question, yes, lisa murkowski says she's a little bit worried about the coordination between the white house and the senate, this happened before with the clinton impeachment, the senate was in close touch with the clinton white house at that time. lisa murkowski has a long history of being against what the president has done and she also said she's worried about the way the house conducted these hearings and out they are asking the senate to do work the house was supposed to do before it got to the senate side. she sang both things. the headline as she's concerned about her but she's also sayin saying -- >> capri: democrats are also very guilty of being partisan,
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there's been criticism that mitch mcconnell and others are saying they are impartial jurors, on our side, people particularly running for president like kamala harris, she's not anymore, and cory booker have said, we believe he should be impeached so they are being impartial, too and two wrongs don't make a right. >> julie: they do not, that's correct, i tell my children that all the time. two wrongs don't make a right, now you've got impeachment by the house and nancy pelosi does have every right to hold onto those impeachment articles until she gets more investigation under their belts with the bottom line is she was supposed to pick two managers to basically take this to the senate to present this to the prosecutors in the senate trial and by dragging this out you're talking about how everyone is exhausted and what was it you called it? >> capri: impeachment fatigue. >> julie: americans do have impeachment fatigue and the new year is going to come around and it's not over.
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>> griff: it's far from over. it's great to be here, i'm outnumbered every day, i have a wife and two daughters. what you seen from lisa murkowski, the house has the power to impeach, the senate has a power to hold the trial. the piece is the founders envisioned should go that way. talk about whether or not lisa murkowski or susan collins as vote would matter, it would if they decided to have a few witnesses. you need a civil majority. but you need 67, two-thirds to remove the president. i don't think there's any doubt that they're not going to hit that. the fatigue is compounded by the fact that americans are looking at this -- >> julie: the difference in the end, would it make regardless of that? >> carley: he could just plead the fifth. president trump wants to say that every single republican senator voted against impeachment but keep in mind
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that right before lawmakers went home for the holidays, the doj inspector general, president trump can say "i told you so," what is likely going to happen with impeachment, it will probably be dead on arrival in the senate which means two times democrats had to try to take down the president and it didn't work. nancy pelosi knows that and that's why i think she's stalling, because she does want testimony or tax returns or something to try to add. but i think that most american people -- american people paying attention to this see that and it does look shady to me even if she has the right to, withhold the articles. >> katie: she can hold onto them but she doesn't have the right or even the power to tell the senate what to do once they receive them so the time for them to call don mcgann or go to the courts to try to get the executive branch witnesses they wanted was during their impeachment inquiry which they were rushed.
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>> julie: it was over the mueller investigation. >> capri: the white house declined to be engaged in the house judiciary committee which they were able to do and they basically walked away. >> katie: that's an issue of separation of power. because they are separate branches of government, the executive branch has the ability to say no. they have the right -- >> capri: that also looks shady. the american people also see that, by invokin executive priv, why not just let everybody talk? >> griff: the entire impeachment inquiry didn't move the needle, we haven't seen that with the american people. do you think another article of impeachment will move the need needle? >> katie: senate democrats, i would not bank on them all being in lockstep with chuck schumer
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or nancy pelosi, joe manchin questioning the validity, doug jones saying may vote for acquittal if they don't have evidence to point oh why impeachment was justified? >> capri: this is killing the momentum the house had. >> julie: we've got to move on. amid the vaping illness crisis, president trump signing a new law raising the legal age to buy tobacco from 18 to 21. you've got to be 21 years old to buy cigarettes. why some health advocates see a potential downside to this. we will figure that out. plus, a growing war of words between the president and gavin newsom over the state's homeless problem. the president's latest threat. >> a new director on the council of homelessness in the united states appointed by donald trump. they are not serious about this issue. ♪ you too, have a great day. bye,bye.
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care of the homeless population in california. if he can't fix the problem, the federal government will get involved. after newsom recently blamed the crisis on the trump administration which he said is withholding federal housing vouchers. >> housing first. you have a new director on the council of homelessness in the united states that says housing, they are not serious about this issue. they are playing politics with it. >> katie: you've covered the story, you have been following it, what about this battle, asking for more federal money but the state of california has a surplus. >> griff: i was just in
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california and it is unbelievable to go to los angeles and see it. clearly gavin newsom is doing the right thing by speaking out and saying we got to do something. here he's in a situation where you wants ben carson to take action but by saying he's not giving it enough priority isn't going to win you points. the president tweeting that he's willing to possibly engage, open the door for opportunities. the old saying is you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. >> katie: it seems like gavin newsom is willing to accept federal help on his terms that he doesn't want to give president trump any credit for solving this crisis. >> it seems that president trump would probably want to handle the situation must differently and then it becomes really difficult for president trump to move forward without any state or local help. it's really hard to live in california as a taxpayer with a
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family and a job. they really do seem to roll up the red carpet for the homeless population with laws that make it a misdemeanor to possess drugs such as heroin and if you're caught with then you can go to rehab instead of jail. there is no wonder there is a homeless population and a really big crisis in california because of those policies and things like that are the dash you just have to enforce stricter laws when it comes to the homeless population. that some people say are heartless but they really do help like taxpayers. >> katie: it's not just the governor president trump is going after her hand trying to hold accountable, he's also going after nancy pelosi, tweeting this. "nancy pelosi's district in california has rapidly become one of the worst anywhere in the u.s. when it comes to homeless and crime it has gotten so bad so fast, she's lost total control.
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along with her equally incompetent governor it is a very sad site." capri, we see this problem and states that have been run by democrats for decades. >> capri: as a democrat, let me try to suggest a policy solution to all of this. this is really more of a state and municipal jurisdiction issue. there is a partnership with hud and an argument to be made of that nature. i went to stanford, i've spent time in san francisco, it is very bad. if you look at the homeless population out there, these are not people that aren't necessarily addicts are self-medicating, these are people that can't necessarily get job training and go out into the workforce. they need permanent, supportive housing that enables them to be as independent as possible. rather than take money and throw it at, you know, putting a roof over people's head or putting them into the judicial system in prison, we need to figure out a
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way, we basically need to sentence these people to being in a place that is permanent supportive housing where they need to be taking their medications, provided with actual services to make them as independent as possible. there is no way that somebody should be without pants on outside of the nordstrom's on market street. that is a bigger problem than people just not having money. >> julie: i like the fact that they do offer rehab to drug addicts in california, i think a lot of the problem is these people need help and they don't only need financial help, mental illness i believe is some in this country has sort of like go to the wayside. i think there needs to be more programs to help with mental health. a lot of the homeless are mentally ill. so you know, in the same course, if you're going to give them rehab, give them more. i think that's the problem is a lot of the homeless feel helpless and i think there's
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more. >> capri: they have resources to do it because they have a surplus. >> katie: they have also been spending money on may be a lot of the wrong things, it becomes down to a battle between -- people flee the state because the government isn't standing up for people, when the homeless crisis has taken over their business and taking over their neighborhoods and now they are facing these massive public health crises when there are diseases we haven't seen in a long time. >> griff: we talked about this a little bit this morning, there's few people in california since the year 1900 which is astonishing and it's in part because of some of these problems, you're seeing "the san francisco chronicle," not a conservative newspaper by any means, enough is enough, what you're doing isn't working, you have to take great drastic measures.
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the feud between gavin newsom and trump makes it mark obligated to get there or not, we will find out. in fairness to nancy pelosi, the same day impeachment articles came, so did the deal. who knows. >> katie: some exciting new numbers on holiday sales. how online shopping is playing a bigger role than ever and how much credit the president can take. joe biden and pete buttigieg are often given the moderate label but are they really? one democrat analysts suggest otherwise. ♪
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and watchers that even joe biden and pete buttigieg today are more progressive and further to the left than even barack obama was in 2007 and 2008. >> julie: all right, griff. i don't know if you look at joe biden and think "far left leaning liberal." he's actually pro-life, personally speaking but he is pro-choice because of his political leaning. i wouldn't call him a far left liberal. >> griff: having covered all the debates so far, all seven or eight of them depending on how you're counting, the first debate told us everything we needed to know. the first issues were medicare for all, health care for illegal immigrants, it was so far to the left of anything barack obama was doing. we knew from the get-go that the moderates were shot out. i would tell you, pretty much
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everyone, including amy klobuchar and some issues i really more progressive than they are moderate. >> julie: would you consider him more liberal than obama? certainly the democratic party has changed quite a bit since barack obama ran for office. >> capri: we are having totally different discussions. when you're already dealing with issues, something joe biden has latched onto saying no, you guys don't know how to pay for it, we need to fix the affordable care act. he's also migrated further to the left trying to get with the program, so to speak, with how things have been evolving in the democratic party. he's decided he is actually against the hyde amendment which usually he has said previously that he didn't want taxpayer funding abortion services. i think for those of us who are moderate we are just desperately trying to latch on to anything and anyone that doesn't look as progressive as some other people getting most attention.
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joe biden, mike bloomberg, pete buttigieg or amy klobuchar. we are just looking for a beacon of hope that might still speak to us. >> julie: i think one of the reasons he tries to move a little left as he wants to take supporters away from sanders and warren who are kind of cultivating this further left with medicare for all of our example program. i don't find buying it. i don't know if voters are buying it. >> katie: he's also trying to shore up support so if he gets the nomination he can bring the party together. pete buttigieg speaks in a moderate tone and comes off very reasonable but if you look at his policies, he's all for costing the economy millions of jobs, for a federal minimum wage that would also cost jobs, medicare for all system which would kill the private health insurance system even though he's not willing to admit that he would eliminate private
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insurance and joe biden in the last debate said he was willing to completely get rid of a number of blue-collar jobs in favor of green jobs, whatever that actually means. so yes, the party has moved left as a whole but on the hyde amendment, that is a very controversial issue, to force taxpayers to pay for abortions. pete buttigieg is one who actually supports late-term abortions. they are as middle-of-the-road and moderate. >> julie: i'm going to move on but i want you to weigh in on this. >> capri: i think he's going to walk back that green jobs thing. especially given his union support and all of that. i think it's hard to tell where any of the candidates are right now because the debates are where we see how they feel on certain issues and everybody is just pandering for that applause and those applause lines are always really progressive. when they get the applause and the big moment.
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so we will only be able to tell how a candidate really feels when he plays -- when whoever wins plays towards independence and grabbing republicans as well. >> julie: in the meantime, the pete buttigieg campaign is launching and new concept for the lowest unique donation. the prison gives the smallest amount of cash that nobody else donates when some kind of prize. this comes amid recent scrutiny over his high dollar fund-raisers. senator elizabeth warren went after him on that issue at last week's democratic debate, remember the wine cave. she did the same thing at a winery in 2018 so there you go on that but the senior advisor for the bernie sanders campaign is also calling out the donation concept, they don't like it either. "the pete for america innovation team working hard on christmas eve coming up with gimmicks to lower his average
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donation amount this quarter. funny stuff." you know why? because they are jealous, think about it. i will give $0.05, i will give $0.08, whatever. >> carley: you give a penny and you win. >> julie: what if the campaign pays you? >> julie: griff, this is smart, the more they get those donations rolling in, these small donations do add up. >> griff: remember, the debate rules to qualify only get more stringent. 4% for january, 5% for national and state polls in a iowa, new hampshire, south carolina but the donations need to be 225,000 instead of $200,000. at least 1,000 original donors from at least 20 states. those of the rules to get into the january 14th debate in des moines. he wants to get there quickly and that's a smart way to do it.
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>> julie: it is, it is brilliant. when i read the story i thought to myself, why didn't -- the other candidates are going to be angry because they are mad they didn't think of it. >> capri: this is a classic example of when a candidate over reports because federal election law does not require you to disclose donations under $250. they are going to be reporting one sent from whoever and -- >> carley: doesn't that work against him? he will be making less money. somebody donating $100 is going to feel equally good because they donated $5. >> capri: a lot of people raise money right after the debates. if you use this as a way to qualify to get into the debate maybe you can make the money back. >> julie: it could backfire, it could. if everybody donates a penny i don't know that it will get them to his. president trump signing a bill raising the national legal age
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>> katie: the legal age to buy tobacco is going up from 18 to 21. the measure had bipartisan support and aligned with federal regulations in 19 states. some say it could actually help the industry avoid further regulation. our west coast bureau with more. william? speak of the good news is, cigarettes, alcohol, even prescription drug use among teens is down but what is not his teens vaping. it was initially sold as a way to reduce smoking. 37% of high school seniors you
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use e and 21% vaped marijuana. this exposes teens not just term nicotine addiction but poisons are additives in cartridges. that exposure that killed kills hundreds prompted president trump to raise the age of buying any tobacco product to 21. >> i think raising the age restriction for tobacco sales to 21 is a good step. not a sufficient step in terms of one of the leading preventable cause of death in the country. >> experts want the fda to regulate e-cigarettes and outlaw flavored products like menthol which they consider a gateway to lifelong nicotine addiction. while many consumers agree enforcement is a problem, in the 19 states that already banned sales under 21, study showed 20% of retailers break the law. >> the kids will find a way to
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go through someone else to get what they want. but it will definitely help making it not so easy and accessible for them to just be able to go walk into stores and buy at 18 years old or whatever. >> others see a double standard. 18-year-olds can vote, get married, buy arrival and join the military but they cannot buy tobacco. >> there's a bunch of other things you can do at that age so why not smoke? it's your body and your choice. >> another issue, the dangers of cigarettes are well known but a single vaping pod carries the same amount of nicotine is about 20 cigarettes i think you'll see a campaign when it comes to e-cigarettes in the near future. thank you. >> katie: all right, griff. this is a win for companies like juul because they didn't get out right band. what do you think about this new
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change? >> griff: i'm taking my journalism hat off and putting my parent hat on. i absolutely support this because the vaping thing has so many unknowns, from the health issues, 20 cigarettes, are you kidding me? i don't want to make it easier for either of my children to get access to this end another thing you to be honest about is the vaping connection to smoking marijuana and other drugs is also there. what's more realistic than cigarettes, back when i was a teenager their age. i'm weighing in pretty strongly on this one and i support this move to 21. take it to 25. >> katie: there are questions about when adulthood starts. you're allowed to join the military but you can't smoke a cigarette or use of vape until you are 21. >> julie: i'm not for government regulation by any stretch. as a parent i am going to say -- my kids are very young but i remember growing up i was under the age standing outside of
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7-eleven trying to get some stranger to buy cigarettes for me. i did it and i'm sure there are others on the couch that did, too. except for this one who has never really smoked ever. i just think this could potentially involve increasing the probability of crime. you mentioned earlier eric garner which i thought was a great point, there are people that are going to illegally try to sonic cigarettes the same way they illegally try to sonic marijuana and other drugs and that's my concern. >> katie: i did mention eric garner. the police are enforcing laws that politicians push through on the books and are putting really bad situations where they are trying to enforce and regulate things that may be are unnecessary and eric garner is not alive as a result of being approached for that. >> capri: is a very interesting point and often times we do place unfunded mandates on law enforcement to do a whole host of things and
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they are stretched to the limit to be able to deal with the safety and our communities. one thing that hasn't been brought up is the issue of revenue. for example, tobacco products, those taxes help fund children's health insurance programs even in the reauthorization. another thing we need to talk about is whether other things are going to be taxed at the same rate. we always had this debate around the revenue and equity across tobacco products. >> katie: winners and losers. there are some results from a study in 2015 that suggest that if the smoking aid were to be raised to 21 there would be a substantial reduction in smokind mortality in 30 years, approximately 223,000 fewer deaths, 4.2 million fewer years of life lost for those born between 2000 and 2019. but people also say vaping helps them quit smoking. >> carley: i think these
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things should be decided state-by-state, mitch mcconnell was for it because he is in the state with the most smoking-related cancers. but if you're wondering why president trump supports this it should come as no surprise because he's been very hard on the opioid epidemic, could be influenced by his wife are even he himself, how he feels personally about these kinds of vices because he doesn't drink, he's talked at length about his brother being an alcoholic so i think personally for the president it makes sense for him to sign something like that. >> katie: okay, it has been done, 18-21. the city of baltimore could set a record as single year homicide numbers continue to grow. why the mayor says he's not to blame for the dangers in his own city. at chevy, we're all family. we're a festive family. we're a four-legged family. we're a get-up-and-go family. we're a ski family. we're all part of the chevy family.
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>> julie: the city on baltimore is on track to surpass its record for most homicides in one single year. with less than a week left until 2020, this year has seen 338 people unlawfully killed in this city. that is strikingly close to the record of 353 homicides in 1993. this past weekend alone, 11 people were killed and according to the baltimore sun, the city
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hasn't seen fewer than 300 homicides a year since the year 2014. baltimore is mayor jack young who stepped into the job last may, he hasn't been there long after his predecessor resigned amid a corruption scandal says he is not to blame. >> this is not any lack of leadership on my part. i have been moving the city forward. i'm not committing the murders and that's what people need to understand, i'm not committing the murders, the police commissioner is not committing it, the council is not committing it, how can you fault leadership? >> julie: this is how you fault leadership, by coming out and making it all about yourself. "i did not commit homicides." nobody said he did. he's been in office since may but clearly when we talk about government regulations, we were talking earlier about california and their homeless problem.
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maryland has a huge problem, baltimore itself needs some kind of intervention. i know you say are not much for the government stepping in, it's a state-by-state thing, what would you think about maryland? >> i think the reason we are sed murder rate, we are seeing the ramifications of that and, the black lives matter movement made it clear that they think cops are the problem and now look at this murder rate which is really, really sad. you just have to -- i don't know if it would be an intervention on a federal level but i think police need to be able to do their jobs and right now in baltimore it's sort of like what happened in new york city back before rudy giuliani, look what happened after he let police do their jobs and how much of the city transforms. >> griff: bought freddy gray did, the riots is it really
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uncovered what would've been a decade-long problem in baltimore and we have since seen things get much worse. i feel like when you talk about police doing their job, the commissioners they've had there, they've had as many commissioners in recent years as they have mayors. the last mayor was caught up in the scandal with the children's book and there's corruption there. when the riots happened, they burned a cvs right there in the community that it worked very hard to get it. when i talked to the residents out there, they were so glad to finally get that and they lost it in that moment. it's not just a failure of the mayor, it's the failure of local leaders and the inability to change the perception in this community. >> carley: the issue here is corruption, look at places like chicago and baltimore, corruption is pervasive and that is going to have an impact on yy implement law enforcement. you mentioned as well, the
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issue, is it a federal or state or local issue, there's one area i think the federal government can help, there's a program where federal law enforcement helps partner with local law enforcement. the weed and seed program has been eliminated and has been for a while, i think that's something the doj should consider getting back. speak to the justice department has implement it a number of anti-crime initiatives especially in recent months. however, the issue here is with the judicial system. the same thing that ties the crime rate in baltimore, chicago, washington, d.c., together and when you talk to prosecutors they are extremely frustrated because they continue to see the same people coming into the system. they get arrested for something, they are put in jail for a little while and this anti-incarceration movement allows the judges, many of them are former public defenders who don't want to put these guys in prison so they come back, go and
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commit another crime, come back, are let out early and so there seeing the same guys over and over and their previous violent records coming back and there's no accountability and they're not afraid of the police because they know they are going to get let out by the defense attorneys and the judges. washington, d.c., right now is weighing an option to allow people who were convicted in their early 20s of violent crimes to be released early. that leads to these types of problems, these are not conservative prosecutors, they are liberal prosecutors in liberal cities. >> julie: i believe nationally the police do not get the respect they deserve, i believe a lot of crime is up because of the fact that there is no regulation that makes it a crime, for example, to throw a bucket of water in the face of an nypd officer. that's an example of why i believe crime is up, police aren't getting the respect they deserve. president trump touting a new report on the booming economy.
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15% of total retail sales. a record. and president trump is tweeting about all of this saying "2019 holiday retail sales were up 3.. the biggest number in u.s. history, congratulations." mastercard says that he is actually wrong, but the biggest rise was still under president trump's 5.1%. fox news headlines, we have seen a lot of the economic headlines. >> carley: i am always in a spending mood, so congratulations to all of us and i may have been a big participant. i also learned that today is one of the biggest shopping days of the year, because people are still on vacation. they can be returning and buying other things, so we could be seeing some more economic numbers. but this is such good news for the trump administration to go into 2020. obviously, every election year, and i am curious and excited to see what could happen in 2020 with the first phase.
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>> katie: as the president said, it is great for america whether you are a republican or democrat to have money in your pocket to spend on things you want to. >> capri: it is all about growing the economy from the middle out, not the top down or the bottom up, when you have more money in your pocket it will help everybody. we have a global trend with some of the indicators out of the u.k. and china showing that the markets have been up consistently across the globe even with some of the questions about trade and brexit. so hey, it's good for everybody. >> katie: there was lots of prediction there president trump would tank the economy and it would be another great depression, but here we are with some of the best sales. >> griff: the book has not been fully written, but i will say to the latest report that nothing says consumer confidence like millions of people logging onto amazon and buy, baby, buy. i will say, social media could play a role. because i am guilty on instagram, will see something pop up like a new surfing thing, i'm like oh, that is interesting. i will click through and buy it.
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>> carley: the opposite is close and make up galore. that's why i like the ads where they follow you wherever you go, because that is my flag of i may not want to buy it now, but i could want to buy it next time i see it. and it will inevitably pop up on another computer. instagram is really effective when it comes to that thing. >> katie: really effective on your paycheck and your wallet. are there a lot of people with gift cards as well that were given for christmas. the debate whether it is okay to just give a gift card. >> carley: summit he told me you don't like christmas music. is that true? >> katie: it is not true. i just think that there should be a timeline and not before thanksgiving. support for a big debate here. >> griff: taking on santa on christmas day. >> carley: i will just let that one linger. >> katie: thank you, griff jenkins for joining us as #oneluckyguy, we are back at noon eastern.
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here is julie banderas in for harris. ♪ >> julie: we begin with a fox news alert, lisa murkowski raising concerns about majority leader mitch mcconnell's apparent strategy for senate impeachment trial. this is for 21, i am julie banderas, in for harris faulkner today. and mary the day after christmas. the senator from alaska who had broken with the onset of boats like obamacare and repeal and to the cavanaugh confirmation taking issue with mcconnell's recent comments that he was in total coordination of "with the white house on the impeachment trial." telling the alaska news outlet this, "in fairness when i heard that, i was disturbed. to me it means that we have to take that step back from being hand and glove with the defense and so i heard what leader mcconnell had said. i happen to think that that has further confuse the process." in the meantime, president trump railing no cross his own impeachment, tweeting this
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