only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ weekend. ♪ >> mark: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." i am mark steyn in for tucker, while he enjoys the christmas vacation with his family. for 90% of the year, the democrat elites are either indifferent to christianity were actively hostile to it but during the christmas season, there are two changes, little ostentatious religiosity is useful to them. in a christmas tweet, mayor pete buttigieg used the birth of christ to make a political point, tweeting, "today, i joined millions around the world and celebrating the

arrival of divinity on earth, who came into this world, not in riches, but in poverty, not as a citizen, but as a refugee." of course, buttigieg frequently deploys faith as a weapon on the campaign trail. he is very confident that republicans are evil, and also that abortion is biblically okay, perhaps until birth.ha >> you go through the amw testament, for sure, and every other word that comes out of the mouth of christ is about things like helping those in need, and you have a republican party dedicated to the opposite. there will be a reckoning over that. right now, they hold everybody in line with this one kind e of piece of doctrine about abortion. which is obviously a tough issue for a lot of people to think through morally. then again, there is a lot of parts of the bible to talk about how life begins with breath, so even that is something we can interpret differently.

>> mark: i think that's actually a reference to god's creation oe adam which is probably not the most typical scenario. buttigieg is just following the lead of house speaker nancy pelosi, who wants the public to think that whatever she isn't on the floor of congress, she has prostrate in perpetual prayer for the soul of the president. >> in any event, i pray for the president of the united states, and i pray for the united states of america. i actually ardently pray for the president of the united states. i don't hate anyone. i was raised in a way, a heart full of love, and always pray for the president, and i still pray for the president. i pray for the president all the time. >> mark: she is praying right now. it's a marvel she manages to find time for impeachment.ag how does the party usually feel about faith? that is better represented by

"the view"'s joy behar who accused vice president mike pence of being mentally ill due to his religion. >> one thing to talk to jesus, it's another thing when jesus talks to you. >> exactly, that's different. that's different. >> that's called mental illness if i'm not correct. >> mark: religion, it is so funny, except when nancy pelosi is praying for you. rachel campos duffy isis a fox news contributor and author of the children's book "paloma wants to be lady freedom," and she joins us now. you do get the feeling that they haven't even skimmed the cliff notes of the bible, the idea that jesus wasn't a citizen. the only reason he was born in bethlehem because they were complying with the regulatory bureaucracy on going there for the census. >> absolutely, and i've been nine months pregnant before, he

even i would have talked out of that journey and yet they complied with the law. so this idea that they were refugees, they are using religion to make a political point. what's interesting is that christian voters, serious christian voters aren't buying it. that's why you understand that the greatest defender of their faith are not the democrats that are erasing christ and christians from american culture in american politics, but it is ironically donald trump, the most unlikely person who has defender, most fearless defender fearless defender whether the issue is abortion, religious h liberty, exemptions for conscience and health care laws. you can go on and on. christians understand it, and that's evangelicals are supporting trump, or their

are at 77%, and among that 77%, a majority of them don't just approve of them, they strongly approve of him, so those are the numbers, they are not falling for it. >> mark: who is this aimed at, then? if you are serious about your faith to the point where it dictates your political choices, are you really going to be impressed by some guy like mayor pete, who doesn't give the impression that he has done anything more than the name of the new testament? >> right. it's cynical, but what i think they're trying to do, or what pete buttigieg is trying to do, he is trying to signal to the democratic base, many of who are secular, to say listen, i've got the goods here, i know how to speak the language, and i can get those christians to vote, because the democrats understand that they need some of these voters in order to be donald trump. frankly, as i mentioned before, a lot of them have been very

impressed with the results for the values that they care about, and the policies he's put forward, especially the judges that donald trump has focused so much on. >> mark: that's fascinating, what you just said there, rachel, because it implies, basically he is doing this to persuade dogged secular-it'ses. thank you for that, rachel. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez is one of the most vocal critics of america's wealthy. her green new deal was an excuse to redistribute the country's wealth, and she says it'se immoral even for billionaires to exist at all. w >> idealizing this outcome of maybe one day you too can be a billionaire and own more than millions of families combined is not an aspirational work good thing. >> do you think it is moral for

individuals to, for instance -- do we live in a moral world that allows for billionaires? is that a moral outcome? >> it is t not. >> mark: elizabeth warren, meanwhile, is trying to bolster her populist credentials by attacking pete buttigieg for his wine cave fund-raisers. >> the mayor just recently had a fund-raiser that was held in a wine cave full of crystals and served $900 a bottle wine. billionaires in wine caves should not pick the next president of the united states. >> this is the problem with issuing purity tests you cannot yourself pass. senator, your net worth is 100 times mine. we need support from everybody who is committed to helping us defeat donald trump. >> i do not sell access to my time. i don't do call time for millionaires and billionaires. >> mark: they talk the wine

cave talk, but can either of these candidates walk the walk? elizabetelizabeth warren hersels hosted fund-raisers at expensive restaurants, including one with the $3,800 bottle of wine. maybe she should have a few more, though, her fourth quarter fund-raising hole was just $17 million. a huge drop from the third quarter, and as for aoc, she may not like those billionaires but she took funding from tom steyer, who is one. a democratic party attorney and he joins us. this seems like some crazy agatha christie plot to me. there's 12 candidates trapped i2 a wine cave, and they are all trying to accuse the other one of being the real elitist. what is the point of this conversation, where is this going?

>> poll numbers have dropped and because of that she has to find a new line of attack. after going after vice president biden and after other top-tier candidates, now pete buttigieg has jumped ahead of her, and her chances of winning are going down. she has decided to go back to the same class warfare talking points. let's understand, president trump is going to going to 2020 with $1 billion in his war chest. $1 billion. so whoever the democratic nominee is is going to have to raise more in order to be able to compete on the airwaves, not even talking about the amount of free media that president trump gets with every single tweet, with every single time he opens his mouth. we are going to have to fight fire with fire and elizabeth warren's purity tests are not going to get us across the finish line.rr >> mark: it is about more than just for money, though.. one of the refreshing things about trump last time is that he was a rich guy who didn't pretend he wasn't rich.

there is something ridiculous about a figure like elizabeth warren, who has lead a charmed life, pretending that she has a daughter of a cherokee janitor but whatever the latest version of offenses and this idea that he were arguing about the appropriate price point at which a democrat candidate can buy a bottle of wine and still be a man of the people. this is about a certain insecurity in how to present yourself, isn't it? >> what it is is grasping at straws. once she announced her medicare for all plan, that taint her poll numbers, and then starting to explain her eye have a plan for this, he attained her poll numbers, and are trying to appeal to this working man base without having workingmen politics. what pete buttigieg has done is absolutely amazing. to be an lgbt, mayor of a small town of south bend, indiana, and go toe-to-toe, people literally twice his age, that should be commended and putting a wall of entry to a run for office rather than simply running on

principles and then depending on other people to see the value of your campaign and reach out to donate. we have campaign finance laws on the books. as long as buttigieg is operating within those, he needs to fund raise however possible, because without them, he will not be able to go toe-to-toe with someone like elizabeth warren. >> mark: just quickly, are you offended by wine caves, or is that not a priority for you this electoral cycle?hi >> my priorities are fixing the health care system, our schools, thingsxi o on the a kitchen tabe that americans care about. i don't care with the funding is coming from as long as it is in the law. >> mark: thank you for that, robert. pete buttigieg, as you mentioned, is supposed to be ae moderate, but he is now advocating noo jail time for possessing any drug at all. heroin, cocaine, whatever. we will explore this latest sign of left-wing radicalism next, and tucker will make a special

appearance himself after the break. later in the hour, we will have "final exam," see if you were paying sufficient attention to the news over christmas with our fox news specialists, just ahead. ♪ ahead.

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at a recent campaign appearance, pete buttigieg called for decriminalizing all drugs, heroin, meth, crack, you name it. >> incarceration should not even be a response to drug possession. >> is that across-the-board? meth or coke or ecstasy, any drug, its possession come incarceration? >> that's right. >> mark: buttigieg isn't the only one, andrew yang is calling for the same. >> mr. yang, you want to decriminalize the possession anl use of small amounts of opioids, including heroin. how would that solve the crisis? >> that's exactly right. we need to decriminalize opioids for personal use. this is not a personal failing, it's a systemic government failing, and we open up safe conjunction and safe injection sites around the country, because they save lives. >> mark: danny golson's former deputy assistant director of the fbi, and he joins us.

danny, the thinking of these democrat candidates seems to be that drug addiction, whatever it is, heroin, meth, is a victimless crime. and that actually isn't really the case, is it? >> oh, absolutely not. they are talking decriminalization. what it is his legalization. do we want to now tell the youth of america that it's okay, it's legal -- which means it's okay -- to take shots of heroin, for women to sell their children into slavery for a hit of crack cocaine? i don't think so. this is a horrible message to deliver. and it's not victimless, because people on cocaine, they don't hold down jobs. if they are heavily addicted. people on heroin, they rob banks, they rob people, they mugged people, so as not victimless. victims are one step removed, and for them to suggest this -- i'm just baffled by it. i've lived in that world as an agent, putting people in jail

for bank robberies and other violent crimes, and almost all of them were addicted to some kind of drug. >> mark: absolutely. when donald trumphe was runningn my part of the world, in new hampshire, four years ago, he thought that was a pretty scenic state, with trees and lakes and mountains, and he was horrified at the way in various have taken their grip. and one thing, in my broken down corner, led to a huge increase in property crime, and that doesn't seem that difficult an equation, forve democrats. more drugs and more drug use and more hard drug use leads to more theft and more property crime, just to fund that habit. >> and more violent crime come too. a lot of muggings. and they keep talking about emptying jails. i put a lot of people in jail. i have handled prison riots. those people in jail need to be there, because in many cases, they are violent -- some

nonviolent, we need to address that -- but violent criminals need to be incarcerated to protect you and me from their criminality. >> mark: well, do you think this is going to work among so-called moderates? even among democrat voters? >> [laughs] i don't know about of the country, but i can talk about texas because he doesn't play in texas very well. >> mark: [laughs]] okay, that is reassuring. that is reassuring to know. this is a big issue for tucker and all of the rest of us on this show. danny, thank you for that.ha now, here is a special appearance from the man himself, here is tucker. >> tucker: across the country come under the pretext of safety, the left isic systematically making this country less safe by depriving e ability to protect themselves, s and so many cases have not to save lives, but have instead helped and lives. the author of "stocked and defenseless: how gun-control

helped my stalker murdered my husband in front of me." the subtitle of your book seems to be pretty self-explanatory, recap what happened, if you don't mind for us? >> my husband, benjamin, was murdered in front of me by a man who was stalking me, because ofm tennessee state law at the time, i had to leave my permitted firearm that i carry for self-defense locked in my vehicle, because the restaurant we were at was a gun free zone, and i obeyed that law. the man who assaulted me did not have a handgun carry permit, he brought a gun in a legally to a gun free zone, and shot my husband seven times in front of myself and everyone, in the middle of a busy restaurant. i will probably wonder for the rest of my life if i could have prevented that. of course, i'll never know, because i was denied a chance, i was stopped and defenseless. >> tucker: that is a breathtakingly awful story. what is striking about itfu is e point you made that the man who

did it, the murderer, wasn't deterred by the law, because of course, he is a murderer, he doesn't care. >> right, and that is what i've tried really hard to do for t years, try to educate people aabout the dangers of gun free zones and how the bad guys don't care. they don't care about the law. these gun-control laws really only impact good, law-abiding people, maket them helpless, defenseless. stop these horrible things from happening. >> tucker: i think normal people understand that, intuitively. someone like you who has lived it, who's life -- the tragedy in your life explains the point you are making so clearly. you don't need to say more. but there are people who hear your story and still aren't convinced. to they say to you? >> oh, people will say, what makes you think you could have stopped him? he will be more dangerous to have other guns in the equation. and, look, if the bad guy is the only one with a gun, guess who wins? >> tucker: yar. you know, people's hearts are

troubled by the mass shootings we see. once they hear your story and stories like it, sincere, totally sincere story like yours, to imagine they couldn't change their minds in the face of that, what do you say? >> one thing that is really frustrating for t me, you know, you hear democrats talk about, they want more and more gun-control laws. then, when it comes right down to it, foro instance, the prosecutor for my husband's murder case, he did not charge the murderer with any of the gun-control lawof violations. he was not charged with carrying a handgun without a permit. he was not charged with carrying a gun illegally into a gun free zone, those charges could have been put out there, and he could have gotten even more prison time, but that prosecutor didn't do that. why do we have these gun-control laws if you are not going to charge these people? >> tucker: let me ask we you oe last question. do you think nancy pelosi goes to restaurants without being

protected by someone with a gun? you think adam schiff would go to a restaurant without having someone carrying a gun nearby at the taxpayers expense? >> i used to be a staffer in d.c. for congressman thomas massie, and i would walk into work, i would see nancy pelosi, outside, either getting in or out of a very large suv, with personal security detail. she has detail with her all the time. >> tucker: yeah. they don't have guns and gun free zones, do they? >> yeah, they have guns. >> tucker: they do? and they bring those guns into gun free zones? >> her security detail does, certainly. >> tucker: it almost seems like she thinks her life is more valuable? >> nancy pelosi live is not more available than anyone else's. she might think that, but now, we should all have the basic human right of self-defense. >> tucker: a man. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> mark: that is a terrible

story. the last days of this decade are going the way the previous ten years were, where in the middle of a brutalen culture war. a leftist attacking a new film for being too white, and a new play for being too male, that is coming up next. ♪

>> mark: the christmas season means family, home, good cheer, and ratcheting up america's culture war. in seattle, a theater put on a stage adaptation of the film "mrs. doubtfire," but a cabal of activists protested the play because it is about a man dressing up as a woman, in the words of "the seattle times," the play is "problematic because "a man in a dress doesn't cut it as a punch line in 2019." 2019" not without serious and necessary conversation." a seattle radio host joins us. the minute i hear the word "problematic" and "necessary

conversation," i want to lock myself in mayor pete wine cave for a month. the liberals who put on the play, and another group of liberals who say, sorry, you guys aren't liberal enough. i don't even have a dog in this fight. what is the best way to pick the justice of the situation? >> we look at it for what it is. "the seattle times" decided to call this problematic, and i'm with you, this is a term that doesn't mean anything. >> mark: it's a problematic term in itself. >> let's have a serious conversation. we decided to elevate a small group of crazy people who legitimately believe that "mrs. doubtfire" is leading to the deaths of transgender individuals. that is just not the case. they did an interview with the series of individuals from the community that they picked out. one of them says that this was unconscionable, and another said this is a death sentence for transgender individuals, to make jokes about a character who is not even transgender -- the

character is not transgender. it's kind of ridiculous, what "the seattle times" has decided to dottim here. this is not about the small percentage of people who legitimately think that this isi problematic. this is for the people to go on twitter and on facebook, and he went i probably see them every day, the woke people who want to tell you how elevated they are, looking out for victims of something beyond their control, and also that they can say, that they are heroes. they are not heroes. they are part of the problem. >> mark: is it also about the hierarchy of victimhood among identity groups? because there does seem to be a conflict between transvestism, which is a big part of the theater for thousands of years, generally, and gender dysphoria, so-called, which is a completele different thing on a completely different scale. for example, i think some drag queens were kicked out of the edlgbt whatever parade in glasc,

scotland, because -- in other words, internal contradictions, as marx would say, to the rainbow coalition, and at some point, the conflicts between transgender and feminist, transgender and homosexuality, transgender and transvestism, are going to wreck the whole happy party. >> it's a race to the furthest to the left that you possibly can go, so you can call yourself a victim. i mean, you get some points on social media when you say you belong to a victim class. number one, because then you are pitied. a number two, you have someone fighting for you. you always have someone fighting for you on the left because they want to tell you they are fighting w for you. you would not be able to exist and trumps america if it were not forru them. and it's kind of ridiculous come almost to the point of parity, and yet we talk about these stories, almost every single day, so it is no longer a parody. >> mark: in the end, everything will be banned.

jason, thank you for that. >> thank you for having me. >> mark: "mrs. doubtfire" isn't the only "problematic" show this season. a new adaptation of luisa mae alcott's classic book "little women" is coming out. in response to the film is aed release, "teen vogue" has renounced it for being too white. they wrote "it's time that classics that are constantly remade -- classics that are constantly remade to better incorporate diversity." the same day team fold promoted an article showing antifa is misunderstood heroes. novel of the new novel "collapse," he joins us now. what annoys me about this kind of thing is that it's not enough

that we have the "teen vogue" crowd who can't actually make anything of their own that you would want to go and watch, that you would want to go and read, but it's that they have to wreck everything that came before it, too. why is it any business of theirs to rewrite "little women" for being insufficiently woke? >> it isn't any of their business, mark. it's another attempt to try and drive aa culture war, organized because a bunch of 20-something, middle-class girls with feminist dance degrees from wellesley are bored of living in unparalleled peace and prosperity, so they try to gin up some sort of drama, and what is better than "little women," which is pretty much "dirty harry" for teenage girls? to attack. let's hassle these poor young women and take something they love, for their own, weird purposes. for their own personal drama.

turn it into something ridiculous. >> mark: you actually make a good point, kurt. the interesting thing about "little women," it's actually quite tough. the dad is a way fighting civil war, and the girls are in a terrible situation, not going to have much of a christmas. by the time to get to the nexty christmas, one of -- i don't want to give any plot spoilers, but the fact is, they actually have it worse for these pampered little nitwits at "teen vogue" selling their readers on the joys of various practices, as opposed to recommending they sit down and read a good book. > i can't tell you how glad i was when i was asked to be on here to talk about a "vogue" article that wasn't about promoting high school sodomy. it's been a while since i went to high school, but apparently n went to a dull one. >> mark: there's not enough of that in "little women."

there point is that if we were doing this in massachusetts today, if louisa may alcott was writing "little women" in massachusetts today, at least two of the would be transitioning, and one would be a, and the other would be running for president, as the daughter of a cherokee p janito, and that would more accurately reflect w the diverse society massachusetts has become, but why can't they just do what you do and write their own novel about it? >> they can't create anything. they can only destroy. these are empty people, mark. they don't have religion. they don't have any real culture. all they have is anger, and that's they're drug. anger is something that fills the void inside them. we've got to raise our kids better. we've got to do something besides social media, fake outrage appeared i was in the army for 27 years, and me and millions of other americans keps outside debate, but i believe we

should have let them in for a little while, just to give them a taste of th the real world. >> mark: that would certainly. be an interesting issue of "teen vogue." if you'ved, got 18, don't let tm read "teen vogue." "teen void," that's a better name for the fbi is expanding their probe of jeffrey epstein's associates an update on thatha case just ahead peered but first, it's time for "final exam," see if you can beat the fox news professionals -- wow, look aton them they are -- eight hour weekly news quiz.ly this is a battle of the giants. don't miss it. ♪ - do you have a box of video tapes, film reels, or photos, that are degrading? legacybox professionally converts them to dvds, thumb drive, or the cloud.

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music means. it's time for "final exam," our weekly quiz where we see who at fox news actually knows anything about the news. and today, we have a fox & friends face-off. carley shimkus does everything in this building on radio and tv, but she actually started years, i think, carley, with don imus, who died earlier tod today. speak with a sad moment for me. everyone knows him as a good interviewer, smart, funny, but knowing him personally, i can speak to the fact he is so generous, treated me as a daughter. hearing about his passing has really gutted me, and i'm thinking about him, his wife, and his kids, i owe him so much. >> mark: try and win this one for him. >> i am. >> mark: you are playing

against griff jenkins. griff and i go a long way back. we actually met at gitmo a few years ago. one of us was just visiting and one of us was a detainee. i'm not going to tell you which it is. hands-on buzzers. this is how it works. i ask the question, and the first one to buzz gets to answer, but you must wait until i finish asking. you can answer once, and i will acknowledge you by saying your name. each correct answer is worth one point. get it wrong, you lose a point. best of five wins be let's get started. question one, the fda just raised the age to purchase tobacco products in america. how old must you now b2 bot a a pack of cigarettes? >> she hit it before. >> mark: we have to go to griff for this. >> you want me to answer? >> mark: yes come because carley -- >> they raised it from 18 to 21.

>> mark: let's see if griff is right. >> the t legal age to buy tobaco is going up g from 18 to 21, afr president trump recently signed a law. >> is it unfair that i'm actually sitting -- >> yes. >> mark: i just love it when there is like 50 8-year-olds being carted at walmart. a whole new category. >> you don't have to go to gitmo yet. >> this is good news. >> mark: question two is multiple-choice, so make sure you wait for all of the choices. a wild video was captured this week at a zoo in dublin. ireland. it shows a youngng boy having a close encounter with a wild animal, when the beast charges at him and tries to eat him. thankfully, the beast is stopped by safety glass. what kind of animal was a?

a, a grizzly bear. b, a tiger? c, hippopotamus? and its griff. >> tiger. >> mark: let's see if griff is right. >> stop what you are doing and watch this. >> look. >> wow, that is crazy. inside the dublin zoo, -- >> what is this dark magic? i can't get at my meal. >> mark: that is the best glazier in dublin, fellas. if you are thinking of putting in a patio door or anything, just go to that guy. question three, this is another multiple-choice question. let's look at the scores, by the way. >> we don't really have to. >> mark: 2-0 to griff, but still everything to lay for. according to a business insider survey, what is the rudest city

it all the united states? a, new york city? b, chicago? c, los angeles? carley shimkus, what do you reckon the answer to this one is? >> this one is a, new york. >> mark: is it really new york? that seems like a kind of polite city. >> boston coming in at number five, followed by chicago, washington, d.c., los angeles, and the title of the rudest city in america goes to new york ci new york city. >> mark: we just had a demonstration of that, because carley's elbow is elbowing griff away from the buzzer. question four, just a few days away from 2020 when the times square ball will drop to ring ine th the new year.

for one point, tell me the first year the famous ball drop in times square? is it a, 1907? b, 1917? or c, 1927? >> ohl. >> oh, this is -- >> mark: griff. >> lose a point. >> mark: come on, griff. >> 33.33 chance of getting it right, and i have no idea what the answer is. so i'm going to split the difference and go with 1917. >> mark: you are going to go to 1917. the first year the ball dropped in times square. roll the tape. >> to get the ball drop ready, it takes so much work and preparation. this is such a storied tradition in new york city. the ball has been dropping in times square since 1907. >> mark: oh, the humiliation!

griff loses a point. >> don't guess at this. >> mark: we have a sudden death, which is always good. 1907. until then, they never knew when the new year started. 1906, 18 months, until they dropped the ball. they never knew. it's a final question, despite s ago, which christmas song just became the number one hit song in the country for the first time ever?? >> you know what -- okay. i feel like it is sort of the way you are asking the question. because it sounds like you are done, and then you keep going. maybe blaming you wasn't the best strategy. take it back. >> mark: you are questioning the way i asked the question. do you feel -- >> how about we say it at the same time? >> i believe the correct answer,

if i have it correct, i publicly have ostracized and band of the song from being played on christmas day. i was accused by ed henry of going dark, and i believe it was mariah carey. "all i want for christmas." >> mark: all he wants for christmas is anything but that song. let's see. speak only took 25 years, but this song, laura, finally hit nd chart thisum week. ♪ i don't want a lot for christmas ♪ ♪ there is just one thing i need ♪ >> it's not a good christmas song. i went to salt lake on christmas day, and the last song -- >> a lot wrong with that sentence. >> mark: that version of the song may be number one, but it sucks. this is the only version of that song you need. ♪ because i just want you here tonight ♪ ♪ to hold onto mee so tight

>> mark: i'm not wearing a tight red onesie. >> that the only thing missing. >> mark: that was number 110 in use pakistan. now, number 37. that is all for this week's "final exam," so who wins the erik wemple mug? it is going to griff, all he wants for christmas is an erik wemple mug. speak what is the christmas spirit, i will let you have it. >> oh!av >> you can have my mug. >> really? how about we share it? >> mark: that is so heartwarming, almost like one of those fascist hallmark movies they talk about it. pay attention to the news each week and tune in, see if you can do better than fox's experts. we will be right back. ♪ billions of mouths.

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procurer, who facilitated his abuse of young girls. ed gavin is the former acting chief of state for new york city child protective services, and he joins us. ed, this thing goes back a decade to that weird deal in florida that doesn't pass any kind of smell test. and ghislaine maxwell, herself, gives the impression as she's walking around that she's in on the's deal. whatever the deal is, she and other epstein associates are protected by it. what's going on here? >> she's been accused of finding teenage girls for jeffrey epstein. i don't know ms. maxwell, i don't know if it's true. all i know about ms. maxwell is that she attended chelsea clinton's wedding in 2010 and she's a british socialite. so, it's really hard ton' say. but what i do know is i conductl child abuse and neglect investigations constantly on the street. what jeffrey epstein was essentially running was called a trap house.

allegedly, bringing underage girls into a t house, plying th, allegedly come with drugs, alcohol, money, and they would provide them with sexual favors. totally outrageous. >> mark: everyone says that,at even prince andrew in his train wreck of an interview a couple weeks ago, said it was a bit like a railway station at epstein's manhattan townhouse, by which he meant there were these young girls coming and going all the time. why, why after this deal in florida was that not remarked upon by officialdom in new york? >> human trafficking doesn't occur in a vacuum. most of the girls engage in activities with older men. they go back and recruit other girls and they usually talk. but what strikes me as really odd, and i still can't get past this, is how the assistant united states attorney alexander acosta in 2008 didn't file federal charges against jeffrey epstein. how come child protective services wasn't notified? how come these children weren't.

taken to a municipal hospital? how come they weren't examined by a sexual abuse nurse examiner? these are all questions. these children have parents. were diligent efforts made to find the parents? a routine lexus nexus check could have been performed and you could find just about anybody using that service. this doesn't make sense. i don't know where the police and the fbi were in 2008 and now we see an article in today's "new york post" that they're going to swoop in and do thisn investigation? again, too little, too late. >> mark: let me ask you this one as the token foreigner sitting here, do you think it's actually interesting that his royal highness and this british subject, ms. maxwell, are the ones that are in all of the pay papers, and all of the big powerful americans aren't being mention in this story anymore? >> certainly interesting. again, it sells newspapers. so that's probably why they're going to do it. with everything going on in great britain with all the marriages and the thingsth going on, that's probably why? >> mark: we'll get into that a little later.

thank you for that, ed. that is it for us tonight. tune in each night at 8:00 to a show that's the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and group think. don't forget to dvr us. tammy bruce is in for hannity. have a great weekend. ♪ >> tammy: welcome to this special edition of "hannity," injustice in america. i'm tammy bruce. great to see all of you. i'm in tonight for sean, of course. for the hour, we'll cover the left's troubled relationship with basic fairness and equal justice. and we start with pelosi's rigged impeachment charade. according to "the wall street journal"'s kimberly straszle, quote, "it's not hard " to image mrs. pelosi sitting on her impeachment articles through next fall's election campaign. that would deny trump the ability to say he'd been