thank you for that, ed. that is it for us tonight. tune in each night at 8:00 to a show that's the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and group think. don't forget to dvr us. tammy bruce is in for hannity. have a great weekend. ♪ >> tammy: welcome to this special edition of "hannity," injustice in america. i'm tammy bruce. great to see all of you. i'm in tonight for sean, of course. for the hour, we'll cover the left's troubled relationship with basic fairness and equal justice. and we start with pelosi's rigged impeachment charade. according to "the wall street journal"'s kimberly straszle, quote, "it's not hard " to image mrs. pelosi sitting on her impeachment articles through next fall's election campaign. that would deny trump the ability to say he'd been acquitted even as an assured constant stream of

negative ever evolving impeachment coverage." right on cue, the main streamt media is providing ample cover for pelosi including "the t washington post"'s very own fake conservative, jennifer ruben, who's applauding thehe delay and cnn is busy launching vile attacks against senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. take a look at this. >> these senators, democrats, and republicans have the obligation to hear the facts, to hear witnesses, and make a decision. and for mitch mcconnell to say he's working with the white house, coordinating with the defendant in this trial before the trial is even begun b is atrocious. he may think he's a judge empanelling an all white jury for a klansman trial. >> you know this, is -- talk about being triggered. is anybody buying this political circus? joining us now with more is fox news contributor sara carter and the author of "witch hunt," fox news legal analyst to gregg jarrett. thank you both for joining me tonight. i know we're going to get down

to the heart of what all of this is. what we just listened to is just absolutely awful. gregg, let me start with you. we see a number of headlines here. after all of this stuff with the impeachment about how it was urgent and kept the republicans from being able to do certain things, time was short because we had this bad, horrible man in the white house that had to be stopped. suddenly, now, it's like, oh, we've got all of the time in the world. media is arguing about how this is a genius strategy. what is your take on it? >> first of all, nobody takes richard painter seriously, which is why he's on msnbc and cnn. this is the guy who sued trump three days after he took office. so, he's utterly irrelevant and a joke. but as to your question, you know, the framers never a envisioned a stunt pulled by a speaker of the house like nancy pelosi holding on to articles of impeachment. two decades ago, it was sent over immediately, within minutes, there was a vote to convey and transmit it.di the constitution is actually silent about that. it doesn't say that the senate

has to wait until it's transmitted. it's simply a senate rule. mitch mcconnell shouldn't be subjecting himself to the extortion of nancy pelosi. he can, beginning in january, simply alter the rule orja eliminate it entirely and set a date for an impeachment trial. pelosi wants to deprive trump of sort of a sixth amendment right, yes, it's not a criminal trial, but the principle applies, confronting your accuser. he is entitled to a trial, an acquittal, if that's what theo super majority decides -- or the majority would decide. you have to have a super majority to remove him. >> tammy: well this, of course, sara, we've seep this before. it's in their nature to deny due process to someone they accused. you think of justice kavanaugh, months, weeks of trying to destroy that man's character. and then just throwing him out, right? that was done. they've accomplished that. it looks like they want to

accomplish the same thing here. is that your sense? some people think that pelosi is serious, and she really wants fairness in the senate, when she didn't, of course, afford that to the president.he what's your take on her real agenda and what the impact will be ultimately on the democrats? >> well, in my opinion, tammy, the real agenda is that nancy pelosi never wanted to do this to begin with. she knows it's political suicide. and the only thing she can do is ngactually hold on to these papers, to not move the impeachment forward in the senate. she's struggling. i mean, she was basically taken hostage by radicals in her own party. she tried to talk them out of it in the beginning. then she believed adam schiff and believed that he had promised her they were going to have all of this evidence in the house hearings, that they were h going to prove that the president is impeachable, and they were going to have all of this evidence, and they had no evidence. they had nothing a at all. so, what happened was, all of a sudden, we have a very partisan

straight down the middle impeachment in the house. nancy pelosi knows if she takes it to the senate, it's not going to be good for the democrats. the only thing she can do right now is hold on to those articles of impeachment. and by the way, another point here, a lot of people are trying to make out on the democrat side, and even jennifer ruben with "the washington post" like she's some kind of genius for doing this. this was her only option. it's not like she thought about this before she went into it. she just has no other way out of it. and she's going to play her cards. >> tammy: in fact, perhaps this was the plan from the start ultimately. because it has been a scheme and they really have not -- they haven't cared about the impact on the country. but, gregg, there's a presumption, it seems, from the democrats that the republicans will allow this to continue. maybe they do think the president's numbers have gone up. they've seen impeachment go up as well. but isn't it proper because if they don't -- there's nothing in

the constitution that says they have to do this, as you've noted.d. and they can change the rule easily. should we expect them the do that? would it be better for them to do that? or would this charade continue to be exposed by letting itt si? >> well, the choice is twofold. mitch mcconnell can say, well, if you're not going to send them over, i don't care. we're not going to deal with it. nancy pelosi could then use it as a cudgel to hit trump over the head at every turn. >> tammy: add things to it. >> simply change the rule, hold a trial, do it on your own terms. you know? the constitution doesn't say the sole power to trial impeachment with the consent and advice of nancy pelosi. it doesn't say that. >> tammy: that's the big deal. sara, in fact, all of this is politics. we know this. and the republicans are concerned about what's happening here. but we, as the citizens, are concerned about how the constitution is being shredded

at this point and made a mockery of. if the republicans went ahead and they know what the articles of impeachment are, they've seen what the dynamic is, doy you think that that would be in the long run, president trump, of course, would be exonerated, do you think that's the best way go? or, again, there is the argument that americans should see the democrats for what they are. >> look, in my personal opinion, i think america has already seen the democrats for what they are. the american people don't want to put up with this. we've seen the numbers turn in president trump's favor. of course, as mitch mcconnell makes that decision, if they make the decision to move with a fast and speedy trial, end this impeachment charade, that's going to be their prerogative and their choice. but i think, right now, the democrats are showing the public who they are, and they will continue to show that.he tammy, they really have nowhere to go here. they don't have anybody in theie party, come 2020, that stands out as a figure that can even challenge president trump right now, and they know it. and they know this. and this is driving them mad.

so, this is basically all they have. this is kind of like their hurrah. their advertisement. their way of raising funds. so i don't think if it goes either way -- either way this goes, it's not going to be good for them in the end. so i think it's a win-win for republicans. >> you know, the real tragedy is that the bar has been set so low for impeachment by nancy pelosi and adam schiff and jerry nadler, any perceived offense is now impeachable and it will extend in perpetuity more and more impeachments by democrats unless republicans vote democrats out of office. they lose control of the house and nancy pelosi loses her job. otherwise, we're going to see multiple impeachments down the road. >> tammy: if there's not a dramatic response by the people -- we're the final word -- it will send a signal that all of this has been

acceptable. and it's not just a difference in politics. we can all disagree.ll this has been a wanton disregard for the impact not just on our system, but on the messaging it sends even to young people in the country that you -- destroying the character of someone through hoax or through lies that due process means nothing, that equal justice means nothing, is, of course, ironically why trump was elected. he's taking these slings and arrows. and, of course, we've got a year coming up here where we can make a statement. but in the meantime, more damage can be done if we don't, in fact, and they're -- you know, they're touching base at home now. they're doing polls. and this is, i think, also -- >> americans need to rise up and say this is fundamentally wrong. we're not going to allow this to happen ad nauseam from here on out. and the only way to do it is with their vote. >> that's it. >> americans will do that at the polls, tammy. they will do that at the polls. >> tammy: we will indeed. we have a chance for that. thank god for the founders. sara, gregg, thank you for this. without a doubt, many in the

media are living in an alternate reality. one of the prime examples of this is nbc's political director, chuck todd. for years, his network reported one hoax after another. they accused president trump of being a russian operative. they predicted that the mueller report would show clear evidence of collusion. they acted as cheerleadersers for the discredited steele dossier. but chuck todd said the right has the structure to utter misinformation. talk about projection. he said it's fun for conservatives to attack the press. now they're all the victims. and that trump has turned this into a sport. someone might want to remind chuck todd that it was his network who gleefully trashes trump and his supporters everywa single night with a constant stream of fake news. one of the biggest offenders is the hateful host of "morning joe." yesterday, even he seemed to embrace a new brand of politics.

take a look at this. >> this season, i bet that a version of "love thy neighbor" is a political winner, as angry as people are. few like the state of our politics, and most americans want a way out. david, truer words never written. and certainly, when it comes tot american politics, you know, mika and i through the years probably have given hundreds and hundreds of talks at colleges, rotary clubs, book events, wherever we go, we say the same thing. >> tammy: it's like he's mr. rogers all of a sudden. mr. love thy neighbor might have some work to do, though, because it's been a very rage-filled three years for, the msnbc host. watch this. >> donald trump, again, being a>

a schmuck, thinking he can buy people's integrity by inviting them turnover the white house. this is so unbalanced. this is so -- he's not well. >> it would be like somebody pooping their pants and looking at him and saying oh, that's modern art. don't yound understand? i'm making a statement against russian aggression in -- in crimea. >> i can say safely, willy, that he at least has in its most advanced form, political schizophrenia. >> he looked like a thug. he looked like a goon. you look at the hand shake. you look at -- look at this. just what a thug. it's a -- what an embarrassment. look, he's mauling him like an idiot. >> tammy: they must live in a bubble. they think we're not going to remember this or look back at this.. well, joining us now with reaction is "the hill"'s joe concha, along with former white house press secretaryy sean spicer. thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you.e >> tammy: now, joe, you deal

with the media all the time. and it's funny, isn't it? it's like they're going from island to island and they create some new event or new scenario, a new reality i for themselves. when we have a history of what's occurred here. why do you think he's now kind of trying to remake himself as mr. love thy neighbor, at this point? >> it's interesting, right? pain is temporary tammy, but film is forever.ro i think joe scarborough used to be very friendly with donald trump the candidate, as was mika brzezinski. donald trump was on their show on a weekly basis by phone. and many on the left ex-glaciated, completely, than for those interviews being so friendly.nd now, i think they're trying to double down in terms of the criticism. but, you know, joe scarborough is the problem, not theug solution. he's attacked them on a personal level as you just showed saying that the president had early onset dementia two years ago. which, if that was two yearsar ago, we should be at a different point, right now?

no apologies from joe scarborough, mika brzezinski, and chuck todd i will get to in a minute. >> tammy: this is what we've seen, sean, the nature of the legacy media propping up and moving forward like they're an arm, a propaganda arm of the democratic party, which obviously encourages the kinds of hoaxes and the frauds that we've been seeing. and when i was on the left, we anticipated that the right would not respond, would not know what to do. and yet, chuck todd is saying it's the right who is making all of this dynamic happening and is the perpetrators of it. what's your take on his new approach? >> i think one of the realat interesting dynamics that donald trump brought into office was that, prior to him, there were three big pillars. it was lobbyists, donors, and the media that, kind of, every candidate on either party had to suck up to. and trumps eschewed all of them.

and i think chuck todd and your scarborough are so used to people sucking up to them, so when he didn't want to go on their show -- prickly, never got it. chuck never got this. he was a democratic staffer to senator tom hard kip and never understood the fact that he's not objective and he can't continue to be on a show where he continues to fight for the left and talk about the right being bad.d.ht that interview that he talked about in "rolling stone," where he went after senator cruz, right before him, i think, was senator -- chairman nadler. if you look at the contrast in how he conducted those two interviews, nadler got away with saying whatever he wanted over and over again. false claim after attack after attack. when cruz got on, there wasn't . breath before chuck went after him. he treats the right very differently than the left. and he doesn't even try to hidel his political leanings. >> tammy: you know, joe, what's interesting, too, is that people -- we don't know why anyone would go on why "meet the press" or any republican would entertain any interviews in this kind of regard, and especially

whether it's chuck todd or jake tapper, a democratic aide on the hill. george stephanopoulos. it's like a revolving door as they kind of take over the media as that other arm. and here's chuck todd now in a way trying to remake the reality for people as though his viewers are idiots or don't understand what's going on. c >> yeah, tammy.wh i think probably his viewers remember a time back in the '90s until 2008 when tim russert, who i consider one of the best interviewers of all time in broadcast media, was the moderator of "meet the press," and he was meticulous, tough, and relentless to lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. and that's why lawmakers like to go on "meet the press," it was so impactful when you went on there if you were able to survive an interview with tim russert, who never made it personal, stuck to policy, play back audio clips of a certain lawmaker and say defend that or explain that better. i don't see anybody doing that in this particular media much

anymore, particularly at those networks. and chuck todd is the exact opposite of tim russert. he's partisan, he's opinionated, he's sanctimonious. and, again, sean spicer made a perfect point. watch chuck todd interview an adam schiff, who has credibility problems. it's a conversation, back and forth without any challengingon and you see senator ron johnson go on that show. and sean just said, can't get a breath in. it's hostile and personal, and that's why "meet the press" is a mere shell of what it used to be under the great tim russert.t >> tammy: it is. t this is what's interesting, is that the democrats, i think, believe this is helpful for them. that they're being facilitated and helped along. at the same time, republicans tend to govern better, are better politicians, get more done. i would argue, in part because they are confronted so regularly. and in the meantime, the democrats have never learned how to handle hard questions or how

to refine their ideas. how to -- how to answer tough questions from any reporters. and that in the end is -- almost -- you know, denigrates like a termite infection in their foundation as it begins to crumble because they're never confronted. in the long run, do you think that republicans, in fact, you know we have to be better as conservatives, because we're constantly challenged.ete i think that's helpful. it's one of the important things about the media. incredibly valuable and imperative aspect of american society. do you think that we're going be able to move past this? is this a time where americans are going to demand more from media? or do you think it's in its waning days of the kind of media we used to have with like a russert, for example? >> the media used to dominate the entire landscape. not too many years ago, nbc, abc, cbs. they told you what the news was every evening and in the morning. and n that was it. an evening paper, maybe a morning paper. they were able to decide what

news you got and how you got it. with the proliferation of the internet, blogs, twitter, etc., social media, now people with can get what they want where they want it. it makes it a lot harder for the media and people like chuck todd to dominate thet conversation. that's the big difference. republicans understand that they're never going to get a free pass or a fair shake from the main stream media. so they have to go around it. that's what reagan did with talk radio and local media. that's what new day republicans are doing with the internet and social media, going directly to the people. and that's where the landscape has changed.h instead of allowing the media and these hosts to dominate what you hear, when you hear it, and how you hear it, people are able going to go around them and communicate with people. that's what trump did with facebook and other social media sites is allow people to go directly to him as he went around the big media. >> tammy: it's been brilliant. absolutely. thank you f for the reagan reminder, in that talk radio was the framework there that he

used and made possible, getting rid of the fairness doctrine, and now we have the internet so the individual voices can work and certainly president trump is working that well. we're out of time, gentlemen. thank you very much, thank you, joe, and sean. thank you. appreciate it. coming up, more bad news for joe biden's faltering campaign. our panel will weigh in next. later, we have breaking news on jeffrey epstein. you don't want to miss this. stay with us. ♪ when we started our business we were paying an arm and a leg for postage. i remember setting up shipstation. one or two clicks and everything was up and running.

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>> tammy: wow. g well, there you go. there's joe biden at the recentr democratic debate, making it clear that he's willing to sacrifice, as though that's what he gets to do, working class jobs to appease coastal elites and their economy killing climate change agenda. and biden's problems don't stop there. because while joe constantly touts his relationship with barack obama, hundreds of obama alumni just this month announced their support for, wait for it, elizabeth warren. now, it couldn't come at a worse time for the biden campaign, because not only do new polls show him trailing mayor pete buttigieg in iowa and new hampshire, he's struggling to win over latino voters that could cost him in the earlyy primary states. it looks like democrats are realizing what we've known for months: that joe biden is trapped, unable to craft a clear message, and unable to build enthusiasm on the campaign trail.

remember, now, biden will never be radical enough to appease the new extreme democrats, but he's drifted so far to the left, i don't know if it's a drift, i think it's a bit of a trot, that he's alienated whatever moderates remain in the party with answers like what we just heard. joining me for reaction is 2020 bloomberg campaign pollster doug shoen, who might disagree with me a tad. i bet. along with the attorney and relatable pod cast host, ali allie beth stuckey. welcome aboard. thank you for joining me. >> good to be with you. >> tammy: thank, ladies. doug, you're sit right here. look, i know you've been a politician for a long time. you're a democrat. a lot of people consider you a fair democrat. >> i try. >> tammy: and you see the nature of the continuing disasters to unfold with biden. what do you think is happening with him? and why does he continue on? >> well, look, he's in the lead. in the real clear politics average, he's plus nine, he's

ahead in two of the four first primary and caucuses. so, i think biden has made undeniable mistakes. he certainly does have weaknesses. but there's such a desire in the democratic party for electability, a lot of voters are overlooking his gaffes. and there are many of them, to just support the person they think can best beat donald trump. >> tammy: isn't that what the primary season is for, to see how you're going to work on these things? now, we know, look, he will likely not win iowa, madison, he will likely not win iowa or new hampshire, a lot of people including the biden campaign and, of course, bloomberg says that does not matter. and, of course, i think we know buttigieg is positioningng himsf as kind of a new obama, that iowa, for example, will give him a boost as being a real player. madison, do you see it turning out that way? >> you know, tammy, it's been a bad month for joe biden. we continue to see him go

downhill. i think the democrats are desperate for an electable candidate.em they're trying -- when it comes to the biden campaign, they're trying to present him as the moderate option. but when you see comments like this in regards tohe oil and natural gas workers and blue collar workers, this is not something that's going to go over well. this is not something to get him elected if he were to be able to pull out a primary win and become that nominee. you talk about these workers and these are people making $171,000 to $196,000 a year, some of the biggest companies, the median wages for them. if you look at the average worker with an advanced degree, they're making $77,000 a year. these are incredible jobs, these are jobs people want to keep. these comments are not going to play well in ohio or in his home state of pennsylvania, and the economy continues to work as ak result of trump policy, not these democratic far left policies. >> tammy: i have to say, he's having these problems. obviously, he's had a big problem with fundraising from the start. and he's not exactly facing individuals who are as adept and

as able, as successful as president trump. and he's -- he's having a difficult time keeping his footing right now. it seems to be like a disconnect about who's going to be electable when they have to think about who this -- whoever the nominee is, who they're going to end up facing in the general election. what is it that could be going on in their mind that makes them think that joe biden could have an impact on or compete with president trump? >> well, i think they thought he would appeal to those blue collar workers that president trump appeals to so well.ke but as we just heard in that sound bite, it sounds like he's already throwing them under the bus. so joe biden is trying to walk this fine line of being this moderate voice that maybe the democratic establishment will support, blue collar workers will support and the far left woke people will support. but obviously, because obama's staffers or people who supported obama are going for elizabeth warren, he's not getting those people either.

i think he's going to end up polarizing too many by trying to walk this line. >> tammy: doug, back to you with your new work is here. it's as though biden came in earlier for perhaps the same reasons mr. bloomberg has come in. either, you know, maybebe mr. biden was recruited by someone to come in. obviously, mr. bloomberg does not have the same money issue. he doesn't seem to care about iowa or new hampshire. we know that it's not as though the person who won those states ultimately -- i think the majority of people who won them actually did not become the nominee. is that the strategy here? that he thinks he's going to win everyone else in super tuesday. >> i think his views are exactly what you said in theup introduction, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, and nevada will divide. he'll probably lose biden the firstad two. and super tuesday will be a clean slate, and given that he's competing aggressively there, he'll be able to move to the front of the pack, if not the top of the pack, through that strategy.

>> tammy: so he does not -- so obviously a state like california or florida, the big states need money, you can see with money. >> yeah, of course. >> tammy: but he doesn't imagine joe biden being a player in those states, despite the name recognition, the history, and being versus a new york mayor who is already not liked very well? >> well, i think his feeling is with the resources and the ability to communicate, if biden falls, as you hypothesize, and i think it's a reals possibility, he will have a chance to pick up that constituency on super tuesday with 14 or 15 primaries and caucuses, and be able to make a breakthrough. so, that's his strategy. he agrees with you. >> tammy: well, i'll tell you, madison, what's interesting here, though, is the money issue. we know the republicans have -- they're awash in money, historical gains when it comes to donations. for both the rnc and the president's team. none of the democrat candidates have that experience.am bloomberg doesn't have to worry about it. because perhaps he believes he can buy the nomination. the democrats have to decide if

they're going to allow that to occur. we also know that hillary spent, you know, $1 billion. that didn't get her elected. so, do you think that for the democrats and for somebody like joe biden, name recognition is priceless?hi he seems to be liked in general. don't you think that's going to give him an edge in general as it has for the national polls up to this point? >> it might give him an edge,in but it's not going to make him win. you look back to 2016, hillary clinton had more name recognition than anyone could imagine. and she had a lot of money. she spent almost double what president trump spent in 2016 and she lost. when it comes to 2020, people are going to vote once again as they have in the past based off of their pocketbooks, so these dems are going to have to continue to run away from the trump economy, which is absolutely incredible. we're seeing record-breaking stock markets. we're seeing unemployment at all-time lows for women, for minorities. we're seeing not only tax cuts that affect american families but we're seeing it affect

companies, and trillions of dollars coming out a commerce report that $11 trillion is brought back to the u.s., companies are brining business back to the u.s. because we're deregulating. everything is going as planned, promised made, promises kept. that's going to be what people vote on when it comes to next november. >> tammy: i'll give you the last word, doug. y you think a broker to the democratic convention would be fine with the democrats. do you think it would feel like someone is trying to steal the nomination? >> it would get huge attention in the media. >> tammy: attention tends to not work well for the democrats. >> i think, in this case, the democrats in all of the polls i've seen are running even or ahead of donald trump. joe biden doingtr the best. i think if we had a real fight for the nomination up to the convention, it would rivetad america and could well help us in the fall. >> tammy: well, we had a real fight with impeachment. and the viewership plummeted, and donald trump's numbers went up. and that changed how the president was viewed. i think americans are tired of the fighting.

they want deals with issues and they want policy. >> i think you're right. they want to hear about issues.i i would like to think we could have a convention that was affirmative in nominating somebody that, unlike impeachment, which brings people down in attacks, is something that unifies my party around a nominee, who hopefully is very, very competitive. >> tammy: if nancy pelosi has her way, it will be impeachment going on at the same time as your convention. >> let's hope that doesn't happen. >> tammy: the democrats never know when to stop. so who knows what's going to happen. doug, thank you. >> ladies, thank you for joining me. doug, madison, and ali. up next, one of the harshest critics says presumptuous would win if the 2020 election were held today. we'll show you why. stay right there. ♪ ñ??w

♪ >> tammy: welcome back to this special edition of "hannity," injustice in america.

one of the most blatant injustices occurring in america today is the underreporting of the president's historic accomplishments since he has taken office as the unemployment rate hits a historic low, wages are rising at the fastest rate in a decade, this as stocks are hitting record setting numbers and trade optimism remains high. and now, at least one far left trump hater is starting to see the writing on the wall. watch. >> if the vote were today, i believe he would win the electoral states that he would need. because living out there, i will tell you, his level of support has not gone down one inch. in fact, i would say it's more rabid than it was before. >> tammy: more rabid, considering what i just laid out for you, americans in general whether people voted for him or not, are responding to not a strange economic dynamic, it's a direct result of policy and leadership.

america hasn't seen that for a very long time. joining me now is conservative columnist jeffrey lord and women for trump national co-chair gina loudon.iv jeffrey and gina, welcome aboard. thank you for coming on. >> great to be with you. >> how are you? >> tammy: you can't say it's what obama did, or it was brought to us by leprechauns, or some other magical thing that occurred, it's not a dream. it really is, not just right now, an extraordinary economy, we can look at this having several-generation impact in the future, for 100 years. when it comes to thehe establishment's understanding of what it takes to make the country work well. so, when we think about the lie of the media and their refusal to cover this, does it matter? as michael moore said, americans are feeling this. >> well, they are feeling this. you know, i never thought i would find myself agreeing with michael moore on anything. but just remember, his first

film was "roger and me," about what donald trump today would call forgotten american, blue collar workers who were ditched out of jobs and all this sort of thing. in michigan. well, donald trump carried michigan.f he carried my home state of pennsylvania. so, michael moore is exactly right. in those states, donald trump has, as everywhere else, but in which those states, he's is popular because he kept his promises. the other week i was at his hershey rally, holy cow, you know? i mean these people are -- they are hell bent on getting him reelected. they think he's been treated very unfairly. they think they have been treated very fairly. that he's kept their promises. they are determined to re-elect him. so this is a very big dial. james carville and bill clinton he said the economy, stupid. here we go again with that. >> tammy: and great point with moore, who, you would think in a

that film, "roger and me" could be seen as a populist and understand it but refusing calling for support for the president, "rabid," and it really is seeing -- for the first time inn two generations, what leadership will do, what a president who's more connected with us in the system can accomplish. isn't that what we're seeing at the grassroots level? >> well, tammy, you and i have been watching this since 2015, when we would debate people over and over again, many of whom now are, if he wants to say rabidly, i guess, advocating for the president today. people who were never trumpers, who i never thought of medi standing arm in arm with me supporting him, who he has won over because that is what he does. h the difference is key. in 2016, people were supporting him becausefe of a bet. they found him authentic, and they fell in love with donald trump's authenticity. but today, they have fallen in love with promises made, promises kept, and i hear from these people every single day with women for trump. and where do they think? where do democrats think these 1.5 d million women that donald

trump has pulled out of poverty are going to go on election day? where do they think that the 3.5 million women that are now employed because of donald trump are going to vote? how do they think they're going to vote on election day? not even to mention the hispanics, the african-americans,an and the asian americans who before did not have jobs but because of donald trump do today. how do they think they're going to vote on election day? so michael moore's predictions are absolutely true. so you can either join them or you can complain about him and continue to call his supporters names. >> tammy: yeah, i'll tell you what's remarkable is the nature of americans expecting, or at least hoping that maybeay something would change, because we knew something was wrong at the core of it. jeffrey, i'll give you the last word. in the sense that the democrats will continue tode operate throh hate and lies and attempts to assassinate a character. do you think the president is going to be fine through the next year? >> oh, absolutely. you know, one of the things that i have to say about the democratic field, they're

boring. h there's no john f. kennedy or barack obama or bill clinton or from the republican side ronald reagan or donald trump. there is nobody electrifying the democratic base. >> nobody. >> no ideas. point. >> tammy:o just when it comes to charisma, and there's no ideas and, of course, now donald trump has a policy and a record to run on. yes, excellent. jeff, gina, thank you for joining me. appreciate it. thank you. straight ahead, we have a live report on the latest details regarding the fbi's investigation into jeffrey epstein. you don't want to miss it. your favorites, dan bongino, tom fitton, will react. don't go way. we'll be right back. ♪ >>

♪ >> tammy: welcome back to this special edition of "hannity." tonight, we have a new development surrounding the disturbing case of jeffrey epstein.

here with the very latest details ishe marianne rafferty. >> she's been called the facilitator for his sex trafficking ring of underaged girls. now ghislaine maxwell, long time associate and ex-girlfriend, is reportedly under investigation by the fbi, along with others who may have enabled his behavior, though we don't know who those additional people are. epstein's accusers have spoken out publicly against maxwell in the past with one victim telling cbs last month, quote, "all day long, i saw ghislaine going to get women. she went to places like central park. i was with her a couple of times in the car. she would say stop the car and would dash out and get a child." another would say maxwell was a, quote, "madame," and the, quote, "nuts and bolts of the operation." epstein victim virginia guffray said she was recruited by maxwell and forced to have sex with epstein and his friends including prince andrew when she was only 15 years old. here is a photo of prince andrew

and the 17-year-old defray with maxwell in the background. interesting to note, according to reuters, prince andrew is not currently under investigation by the fbi. they're also reportedly following up on tips received on the agency's hotline set up earlier this month. tammy? >> tammy: thank you, marianne. now as theta fbi reportedly sees ninformation on ghislaine maxwell, questions about the former partner and alleged madame continues to swirl, such is the nature of her, quote, "very close" relationship with former president bill clinton. the lavish parties that she threw, and exactly who attended them.es joining us now with more is fox news contributor dan bongino, and judicial watch president tom fitton. fellas, thank you for being with me. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you.la >> tammy: ghislaine maxwell denied all of this in one orto another. you would want these allegations to get cleared up and eliminated. one of the most famous women if you will who hasn't been seen in

a long time. in connection with this, i found it very unusual that finally we're finding out that she is only now perhaps being investigated, when she's the next person, or at least the person, now that epstein is dead, regardless of how he died, who would know everything that happened. do you think she's been under investigation or do you think this is something that is newt and the fbi is just behind the pace of things? >> having been a former federal investigator myself, i can't see any reasonable scenario where she wouldn't have been under investigation. tammy, we have to remember, you know, this is -- this is not obviously a faceless crime. what i mean by that is i investigated bank frauds. listen, these are serious crimes nonetheless, but they're big business entities, and it's hard to put a face on that. but it's not difficult to put a face on this. these were underaged girls. these were very personal, very awful, horrible crimes that i think the question we're all

asking right now, whether former investigator or just a human being, is how did these people not know? that were surrounding epstein? how did you not know? look at these pictures? these are obviously underaged girls. this is sick. and that is why i think that's why we want to get answers on this. how do these people not know? >> tammy: it's like everything we've seen unfold since president trump was elected, just the tip of the iceberg of this other world, where you have units of government and society protecting each other. tom, with your work, you've seen -- you've dealt with this all the time, that, in fact, is it about the circles he travelled in, that he was protected, like the clintons were protected, that certain kinds of people then were targeted?? is that part of what allows this to continuous us knowing about it? >> well, you said the words, the clintons. that's a key issue here. this is why a lot of americans don't have faith that the justice department or the fbi will get to the bottom of this.

look, you had the initial prosecution of epstein that was questionable in its outcome. justice department arrests him again in response to political pressure. the most significant person they had in the federal bureau of prisons, and they couldn't keep him alive. and now, now they're investigating yet another clinton friend, because you havt to remember, the epstein was a friend of clinton, according tot his lawyers, helped to concede the clinton global initiative that was used to launder money as we now know, by hillary clinton during her term as secretary of state. so, frankly, i don't trust the justice department and the fbi to do a politically sensitive investigation that touches on anything related to the clintons. so, i suspect ms. maxwell will be free and clear for the foreseeable future. >> tammy: well, she's the kind of person, i have to say, dan, that if you wanted to find out how big an operation was if you're dealing with the mafia or some other kind of organized dynamic, you need one person who has a lot to lose, who then can

give you the picture of what was happening. l what was happening on the island?ha what was happening in the new mexico ranch where "the daily mail" reported that the clintons visited and we saw that link between hillary -- not just bill, but hillary as well with epstein allegedly. we know of her connections with harvey winestein. she's like the one link between some of the worst people of this era. so, you think when it comes to this linkage with hillary that, in fact, we can finally see more if someone like ghislaine maxwell has enough of a reason to tell the truth about what's happening once they do catch up with her.. >> yeah, i mean, the first thing we did during these investigations is you go after financial experts and back in the day, phone records. why? because you want to know people are talking to. who are they associated with? who may have they discussed the crime with? in this case, you have allegations, of course, but youy have allegations that this person was right there.

it's alleged she was actually recruiting some ofit the victim. again, i can't imagine how this person wouldn't become part of this investigation. and i'll tell you, you brought up something before, tammy, that i think tom nailed, too. this really disturbs the american people. outside of the horrible nature of the crime. >> tammy: that's right. >> the fact that you can't -- this isn't one of those things where because you're connected you should get a freet pass. this really is gross, if this is happening in elite circles. you all have to go down for this. >> tammy: right. gentlemen, thank you for joining me. lots more to come, i'm sure. dan, tom, thank you very much. more "hannity" after the break. stay with us. ♪

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