tammy bruce." thank you for joining us tonight and have a great and gentle weekend. we'll see you here on monday. "the ingraham angle" starts right now. in "the five" is next, keep it on fox. >> jesse: hello, everybody. i am jesse watters along with katie pavlik, dana perino, and michael loftin. at 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." several major stories to tell you about tonight including the media praising nancy pelosi over impeachment while trashing republicans. and one pundit even bringing up the kkk to attack mitch mcconnell. that's all coming up but let's start with this. a major development in the jeffrey epstein scandal. investigating the predators alleged madam, ghislaine maxwell

and some other people who helped the dead financier facilitate sexual abuse. she was someone that recruited and groomed and allegedly participated in some of the activities and this is not good. >> if you like it would be bigger news if we found out the fbi was not investigating this because she really -- any of the accusers have pointed to her as somebody who was the recruiter and basically ruin their life. and remember also, she's been playing this game of cat and mouse with the fbi, when all the epstein stuff broke and he got arrested, was in california at an in-n-out burger and it was a big photograph and turned out the whole thing was staged, i just think it would be surprising if she wasn't being investigated. >> jesse: she came from a very wealthy, successful family. and from what it looks like, she

helped cover up a lot of the problems that were in a lot of the locations in the island in the estate then in palm beach, katie. >> katie: the fbi is saying it is in the very initial stages, aren't accusing her of any wrongdoing yet but it's very obvious given her association that if they weren't talking to her, it would be a major problem. let's remember that fbi went to the island and got all of that evidence that we still haven't heard a whole about, probably going through all of that and they probably have some questions about his behavior whether he was having tendencies to be suicidal. a lot of questions about his behavior and whether or not that was going to line up with what we know now about his death. >> jesse: had also been accused of helping the work teenage girls from overseas with the promise of jobs in the fashd modeling industry. >> i've done a lot of work back in ohio on the issue of human

trafficking, places like ohio in the middle of the country with a lot of interstates and connectivity. one of the things i am glad to see that federal law enforcement is looking at this, part of grooming behavior, obviously engaging in a pattern of criminal activity but if there are states like ohio that she is somehow engaged in activity, whether or not they are american or not might actually be able to expedite this process for her. they have stronger laws of the state level that they can expedite, through all the charges. >> jesse: hasn't been charged yet, maybe the feds are potentially using some leverage in her case, maybe she has a lot to share about coconspirators and maybe she plea bargains, who knows what could happen. >> michael: i am a bottomless well, i just want more of this. scares me, mob justice is a real

thing and if this was the old west, i am signing up for this. i want to know everybody involved, i want people to talk, people to get in trouble and the parents and the human being, it just makes my blood boil. i'm not making>> it's how the rs get away with things for so long, this comes after the prince andrew disastrous interview in the u.k. they were friends and also peter mcmahon sent me an article today for the telegraph saying revealed, duke of york set up secret investment fund under a siousurname. >> katie: the only justice is through his associates who were possibly complacent or advocates for his behavior. >> jesse: a looks like more and more victims are coming. in two are other top story, more outrageous liberal media bias,

smearing republicans over impeachment while praising pelosi. >> he is now the third president that's been impeached and is one of the most masterful parliamentarians of our time. >> if she had been masterful in holding her caucus and controlling her caucus, she is as kryptonite. >> donald trump plays waccamaw and she plays chess. >> jesse: invoking the ku klux klan when talking about mitch mcconnell. >> for mitch mcconnell to say he is working with the white house for what the child has even begun as atrocious. he may think he's a judge and getting an all-white jury for a klansman trial. >> jesse: i'm glad santorum pushed back there. and atrocious comparison, you come to expect this but the memo got out about masterful.

>> katie: i have some advice for the leftist progressive media, people who are sending these emails out, like media matters. to send out a couple different emails with different talking points because it's so obvious everyone is using the same word, masterful, it happens every single time. i do when i actually don't lookup them on purpose because i don't want to accidentally start playing into that. >> dana: unsubscribes to all of those. >> i'm curious because i look at it during the initial impeachment stuff. i was in england and not on tv at all so i was just curious to see. you've got to be careful with the talking points. i would say invoking the ku klux klan, people thumbing around nazi. you can say the same thing without being that incendiary and without invoking the clan. >> jesse: they incentivize some of this bomb throwing on

cable tv. inflammatory language on this network but obviously it is rewarded. >> dana: someone i worked with at the end of the white house years, haven't talked to him since but seems to have no idea what he's talking about here. how upsetting it is for people who are either representing their constituents, what nancy pelosi has done is okay. to me, that is talking about mob justice. in a way, by holding it back and not giving the president and the republicans a chance to have a trial like it says in the constitution, that to me as unconstitutional. >> jesse: i can't believe they played the race card and impeachment. i speak and whenever there's a big thing going on in the media, it is like that kevin bacon game, 6 degrees of kevin bacon kevin bacon. but you play 1 degree of racism.

i want to take it to clan right now. >> katie: not just one guy, but a whole jury of ku klux klan members. >> michael: i want to bring back pee-wee herman for the word of the day. it's nancy pelosi, masterful. >> jesse: you touched on that, so let's dial in on some of these emails that go out because we've heard unprecedented, that something that gets repeated a lot. you get these emails in the morning and they have masterful, unprecedented, constitutional crisis. >> here's the thing that we have to be honest with the fact that democrats and republicans both send out talking points. >> dana: unsubscribes to all of them, that's my advice. >> katie: they repeat it like it's supposed to be saying instead of coming up with

original ideas and if you're saying what you're being the send in emails directly and everyone saying the same thing and invoking the clan and racism, you've already lost the argument. the lesson should be we can't have a trial in the senate until nancy pelosi sends over the articles. >> jesse: was that in their? >> we've always been told to stay on message but the american public is sick of people saying on message in the last few years have proven that. so my tip to democrats and republicans alike, say what you think. >> jesse: we do it here, i haven't gotten an email yet. no one emails me. someone's going to say something about that. 2020 liberal insanity. mayor pete has a major announcement about drugs. wait until you hear what he says about drugs. she wanted to move someplace warm. but he wanted snow for the holidays.

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>> top 2020 democrats are waiting in the controversy. mayor pete buttigieg raising eyebrows for saying he wants to come i get this, decriminalize drug possession. >> incarceration should not even be our response to drug possession. >> across the board, so meth or coke or ecstasy, any drug, incarceration isn't? >> that's right. >> and elizabeth warren creating new problems over how she talks about her family's history. mourns own brother reportedly furious with how the 2020 democrats has been describing her father on the campaign trail. listen up. >> i am grateful to an america that gave the daughter of a

janitor a chance. the daughter of a janitor. my daddy, he ended up as a janitor. >> warren has previously described her dad as a maintenance man but has recently changed it to janitor. a lot to unpack their and i want to start with you and this mayor pete drug decriminalization stuff but i overheard you say it's going to play really well in iowa. i >> dana: he is winning in iowa so maybe i'm wrong, but whn the lady from "the des moines register" says even mess? that takes a little bit more explaining. not the only one who thinks like that. every time i woke up to the line of thinking i could be for that, i step back and maybe it's my own personal biases. one of the most interesting political feats is that he's been able to cast himself as

this moderate person when most of his policies would make bernie sanders blush. he wants 15 supreme court justices, wants to abolish the electoral college. he has a moderate tone and he looks like somebody would want to have over for dinner like he could be your friend but i don't know if his policies are really that moderate. >> voting for the midwestern sensibility being from indiana but data makes a good point that if you dig a little bit deeper, maybe he is not as moderate as people see and this kind of thing is something where a lot more progressives are saying we should just decriminalize, throw the dealers in jail but not necessarily. >> katie: democrats are trying to find their own version of criminal justice because i do something the president has done successfully, mayor pete is struggling with black voters in south carolina, they care about criminal justice reform and that is something he is trying to put on the table as the version of this is decriminalizing all drugs, shouldn't be using the judicial system to put people in

prison either short-term or long-term for possession of these types of things and that's what he is trying to do. they will be more questions about what the impacts of that are common lots of debate about how legalizing marijuana has affected cities over the country and whether or not it's been a good thing but can i talk about elizabeth warren for a minute? elizabeth warren has repeatedly and desperately tried to paint herself as a victim whether lying about her parents having to elope because her mother was cherokee, saying they were discriminated against, saying she was fired for being pregnant when that is not what happened, lying about how she paid for school and now she's trying to turn herself into someone you should feel sorry for or she comes from middle class blue-collar home with her father was a janitor. nothing wrong with being a janitor. any kind of job is good work but the problem with her is that she is lying about it repeatedly. so was he a maintenance man, was he a janitor, and she continues to change her story based on how she thinks people feel sorry for her and how she can use it to

her advantage. >> michael: her dad was 124th janitor. >> dana: nothing wrong with that. >> the that she is sticking to you. what do you think of this? >> jesse: that's a pretty good line. >> you think this is something that is another fib from a politician or does it really hurt her credibility given some of the things katie said? >> jesse: only politicians lie about not having money. everybody else lies about having it. why would you downgrade your own father's job to establish a stronger connection with the working class? working class people don't care about that. you shoot straight with working class people and fight for them, that's what they care about. look at donald trump or jfk, their fathers were janitors, working class americans those guys. she lies about her history, lies about her family, lies about her heritage, she is a phony.

>> speaking of being totally transparent and straight up, mayor pete has not pulled any punches on this drug stuff, do you think the american people are like great, you are being honest about this? >> jesse: going after the hunter biden about. one group of americans want to be able to walk around with meth and needles hanging out of your pocket and the cop just gives you a ticket. is that a society that we want to live in? you want for people to hit rock bottom and get sent to rehab, that's what family members want. run on decriminalizing crack against donald trump in the general election and see how that goes. >> do year impression. >> michael: it's not ready yet. i have to unleash it on another show. who is going after that crystal meth about? they'll vote more than once and try to take the voting machine apart and then rebuild it. it's insane, completely insane

and i'm just thinking if i'm an aspiring criminal in south bend, i'm going to just tell the cops amount drugs. >> dana: katie can speak to this more, cartels are funneling drugs and if you legalize marijuana, thee a cartels have d to meth or fentanyl or things like that. >> katie: there were valid arguments to be made, i just think the system is so in its place that to say we're just going to decriminalize it across the board at this point is not a realistic thing to do. yes, it would lower the price of drugs for cartels which makes them less powerful and they wouldn't be in the streets of chicago but someone would be and a consequence of that is what americans are going to have to live with. do they want it coming in from mexico where their local communities? they are separate issues in terms of economics and the

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>> katie: more examples of liberal and insanity first step, san francisco has a new target. a paper coffee cups. some businesses they were getting ahead of the curve and are trying to phase out paper to go cups being replacement glass jars or bring your own cup policies and all of this comes as the city continues to grapple with a devastating homeless crisis. so glass jars in san francisco streets seem like a really good idea.

>> jesse: i've changed my mind on this whole san francisco thing. have at it, do your thing, be weird, trip over a homeless guy on the way to a coffee shop and shatter your glass jar on the street. that's what's going to happen. i don't care anymore. live there, do your thing. people want to lose business or cut themselves with glass jars, live and learn. i don't actually think they care about the environment because they let the homeless people's street the city like a toilet. doesn't make any sense. >> katie: that is true. >> i agree with this idea, when the president said he will step in to try to deal with california's homelessness crisis mothers not a lot you can do but the hardest part of governing is at the local level. so all the decisions you have to make that are actually affecting people's day-to-day lives, not just because the jars could break but because of diseases

and illnesses and things like that coming of to make sure things are properly cleaned. >> jesse: imagine going to a coffee shop and they say would you like to rent a mug? >> is a like bottle deposit was back in a day, you bring it ba back? >> katie: this is a plague ready to happen. >> michael: is going to make starbucks coffee taste any better? at some point, they're just going to throw some grounds in your face is flashy with hot water. went san francisco can't make another worst decision, though go watch this. >> katie: they have all these real issues to deal with and it's almost like they are doing the silly things like banning paper cups after we banned all the plastic that now we are not allowed to have that. instead of actually really focusing on hard governance at the local level. the less time and money they are

spending on a real issue. >> i agree and most people at home agree but we are not the ones where the constituents did as someone who served at the state level, it really is a local decision and if the people don't like it, then those elected officials are accountable to the voters. >> dana: what if you just want to get a cup of coffee? >> katie: speaking of local governments, one of the country's biggest school districts taking heat for a new policy that students in virginia county will now be able to miss class to protest, the district announcing kids in grades seven through 12 will have one excused absence each year for civic engagement activities. so are they going to skip scho school? >> jesse: if i'm a student, i love this and if not, i don't like it. i am doing some thing. i don't trust the school to

encourage equally the type of civil protests that are going on. are they going to push my kid to do you will have protest against paper cups or my kid wants to go to a tea party or an open carry rally. now come i can't do that. >> i doubt this is how this works. first of all, we have to assume that fairfax county, virginia, has a pta engaged in the school board and people know about this but i don't know, it sounds to me as if you get one excused absence and you pull that card and whatever it is, it is. i don't think they have a say necessarily. when that do they know they're going going to a rally? you're at the bar like this later. >> katie: i might be a good idea if people want to go out and learn but it does seem like based on leftist indoctrination.

in >> dana: parents think their children are going to be the next greta. that happens in london a gazillion children and also as a parent you don't trust them. as a taxpayer, i'm sick of it. i don't pay the local taxes in fairfax county but no, go to school. . may be on that day a teacher will teach you something that will have you them up with an innovation that is going to solve a global warming. i want kids in school and you think fox news is going to say we will definitely pay you to take a day off of work and you can go protest downtown. you are being paid to go to school. in >> katie: is this just an example of leftist indoctrination to go protest when they should be at work? >> michael: it is only one day. they intended to be fair, wouldn't it be two days? is going to be the one day and they're going to protest global

warming or let's get the paper cups out of starbucks in virginia, it's going to be horrible. that's all they care about. where do we start? >> michael: if i showed up with a school bus that we are going to go protest planned parenthood, this would not be an issue. we don't do that. >> katie: when i was in college, i took a day off and had to take it to get my absence excuse after they allowed everyone to take off school. >> jesse: i discovered you there. i did, i put her in a little package and that's how she got booked on fox. >> katie: i got booked on fox because i rode the bus to go on the redeye. you can have the credit.

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to respond. >> he didn't want to risk spelling trudeau. this edit took place in 2014. this would have been censorship. i apologize for that. however, it is still stupid. you took my statement, this happened in 2014 and i do think it is petty for trump. the leader of the free world, don't worry about canada or home alone two. going to have to edit justin trudeau out of aladdin live-action. we might have chosen the wrong career path because people are making a killing on social media.

soccer star cristiano ronaldo is raking in almost 50 millions of dollars. do you have an instagram? sometimes i make money but not that much, that's for sure. and by diamond rings. i saw someplace that apparently there are camps now they are sending their kids to on how to become youtube stars. 26 million, i think renaldo is legit, he's got a lot of followers of just like any

platform look at that toy, it's horrible. who can actually say that soccer players are dumb, they are pretty smart. i remember a few years ago there was an instagram model from australia. it's all fake, i am paid to wear this and paid do that and i was like. our tech addicted and isolated world, 75% of adults say they aren't friends with any of their neighbors, so sad and a single person from their box. why do you like this?

>> i don't need to be friends with you, it is okay if we don't talk to each other, i am part of the problem. i live on the same street with two-thirds of my family, so i'm pretty sure i know them. they fix stuff, that gives you lots of opportunities to interact with the neighborhood. i don't live in the suburbs anymore, but when i did, i would go across the street and knock unannounced.

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>> fan mail friday, i'm going to send us off. number one, the question is, we start with you michael, what tv show would you like to get a reboot? >> michael: oh, my gosh, there are so many great ones to get a reboot and we are living in the golden age of television and everyone i think of, they've done it.

it reboot the "star trek," let's do "battle star galactica" but it's fantastic. >> dana: we will come back to you. >> jesse: that needs a reboot. of the error of today. >> nicor, why not >> dana: xena warrior princess. i think "gilligan's island" could use a reboot to that be fun. golden girls. that's good. i don't know. >> jesse: i'm not kidding you guys, there's so many great shows on right now. they must show i wrote, yes we should do a reboot of the low pressure. >> dana: and to another instagram asks, were you in a school play and what character do you play? >> jesse: i was in a school play and i forgot my lines in the entire school left at me. i sat there forgetting my lines

and staring at all my friends going -- [laughter] and i to get fed lines by my teacher. it was >> dana: how? >> jesse: i was fourth grade. >> dana: you decided to go out for journalism. we see jr. lines. creative >> jesse: talking points of the morning. >> katie: i was in a lot of plays that i can't remember what i was. i did some of the stuff. >> dana: a big impression on you. >> katie: i like that, but it was not the crew. it was the character i remember what it was. >> dana: i like model u.n., i remember i was 13 but i got there and they said you are going to be that you ae and that's not even a country. >> jesse: 's and the greatest play of all? >> i was in the girls of the garden club. >> michael: i saw that, i think i rented that one.

>> dana: did you write a play? >> michael: i was in several plays, i would love to write a play, when i was in middle school or high school i got into i was in bye-bye birdie and i was in the chorus and just total lucille, the total geek was birdie and then he was getting all the girls and i was like hello, i was in little abner. he carried me around. it was a wonderful experience. >> dana: here is a facebook question from your favorite, if you're given a time slot on a cooking show, what would be the one recipe you choose? >> katie: as a person coming out with a cookbook in june, i cook on tv quite a bit so i make pies, i guess i have to pick something kind of pie. butterscotch with butterscotch pie and cookie crust. either that or something my

grandmother would make us an italian and a mak make a lot ofe italian cookies. >> katie: my dad was such a good cook, i'm not. >> dana: barbecue some meat. of spac >> katie: elk, maybe the green chili enchiladas, he also makes apple pies in dutch ovens. pretty good. >> michael: that's amazing. >> how about you? >> jesse: i love to cook, it would make ribs. he just kind of get them going and you stand around and talk. >> michael: i don't know how to cook, i know how to grow, it's different. it was >> dana: when you do that? >> michael: no, i would not do that on television. if you want me to do that, oh, come on, cook something in the morning. >> dana: i'll take your spot. i could fill an entire hour just showing people how to make. a plus question, facebook

question, this goes off to a everyone, when your kid kid you must've known your neighbor. >> michael: my best friend in the whole wide world, sean, big irish catholic family, 100,000 and we just ran around and got into mischief and it was fantastic and a wonderful fami family. >> michael: i forget their names, it's a good thing, but they let their grass grow way tg and my father got so fed up one time he went across the street and mowed their lawn. speed it where they grateful? >> jesse: no, they never said anything. it was shameless. i remember. >> dana: okay. >> we all live on the same street, my cousin, so cousins at home and ohio what's up. we actually had a wonderful neighbor, who still lives there, our neighbors were kind of far

away and she was a ceramics professor at northern arizona university and she taught me how to make big ceramic things. speed it we had irene, and town center, and right next door to them and they are a lot older than my parents and one of the station wagons were the backseat and you are writing in the back you were looking backwards. i remember going out. good memories indeed and "one more thing" is up next. . .

♪ >> jesse: it's time for "one more thing," rest in peace don imus according to a representative from the family, the radio legend passed away earlier this morning and he was hospitalized since christmas eve. if he was 79 years old and he left a huge impression on the radio industry. if he had a lot of child cancer patients who he helped through the organization. if so, don imus, the legend of radio will be missed. okay, katie. >> katie: do you want to talk about yourself? okay, i'm not kidding. >> jesse: reaching out i got low confused. >> okay, a lot of people go underage on christmas eve, but

they don't see this at the christmas eve mass so take a look at the tree in ireland how he left on peter o'connor, out in the church and everyone cheered him on and he was showing off the early christmas presents he got off during the service in the video was posted on twitter by the parishioners, and it's gone viral. >> jesse: so glad he did not wipe out. >> dana: that would be not good. my turn, okay. ♪ we do this, on a friday, okay, are you ready at this is the first time. >> michael: this is your first time. it was >> dana: 's number one, my duty a jeweler on december 21st? why do need a jeweler? >> michael: to ring in the new year new year. >> dana: yes! what did the man get for stealing a calendar? >> oh, that's good!

>> michael: i have no idea. >> dana: 12 months. >> michael: just let him go. >> dana: what's an elf's favorite type of music? rep. why do they love coffee? >> katie: because it's -- i don't know. it >> michael: i don't know. >> dana: because they are santas star box. this is the last one, wears new year's eve the most mathematical? where's the new year's eve that's the most mathematical? >> michael: at the setup is horrible. [laughter] >> dana: is that bad? it's in times square! >> michael: very good. >> bret>> dana: i had an intervw with tracy who is amazing fitness instructor, exercise

guru and everything's got a new app called pilates bar which i recommend and i talked to her. >> jesse: what's your one more thing? >> put it on me, okay, the survey says, will you marry me? not me, but apparently north carolina man is going viral for the family feud inspired proposal. it take a look. >> how would you finish this? will you marry me? >> yes i will. [laughter] >> might as well make it official, right? >> dana: isn't that crazy? >> joshua bell prepared a series of marriage themed questions and asked his girlfriend in the show, and she thought she was playing just a normal game with the family but then he proclaimed that the question marry me to which she happily

proclaimed yes. they gained 2.4000 comments. >> michael: there's a group of cyclist writing to the australian town during a heat wave and they stop by a koala bear in need. yeah, the koala would not leave them alone. speeder is on paper or a plastic cup? >> michael: that's a paper one, they had to slow it down. >> dana: no! boo! >> michael: this is amazing, we need to make them up ahead. i love koala bear's. national anthem ♪ [national anthem] ♪

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