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people. local officials in the past are saying man saved countless quiet lives. >> we can't prevent mental illness and we can't prevent every crazy person from pulling a gun. this church as a model for that preparation. >> we lost two great men today. but it could have been a lot worse. and i'm thankful that our government has allowed us the opportunity to protect ourselves. >> the man they are talking about is now speaking out after springing into action. >> i don't see myself as a hero, i see myself as doing what needed to be done to take out the evil threat and at that point i didn't have a clear shot because people were standing up and finally about a second later i had a clear shot and i took the shot and the shooter went down.

since when do you know when something bad is going to happ happen? you have to be prepared at all times and all places. and that is the way that i strive in the way that i teach. >> marie, i will go to you. this is something that republicans say all the time, a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun and because of the laws with the texas legislators passed in my home state of texas, people are allowed to carry in church, but to organize church groups that are volunteers to stop by guys like us. what say you? >> marie: in this situation obviously this man who stopped people from shooting more people as a hero. it's a good thing that he was there, he was armed and he was able to do this. i for one don't want my church to turn into a shoot-out, i don't want my place of worship to turn into a shoot-out and this is not a solution long term for the gun violence problem we have in this country. i don't think we should let this

one story which is an amazing story, we should point out, let us take our eye off of the ball in terms of what are some common sense solutions we should have in this country. universal background checks including gun sails, not say we always need to have a civilian armed. by the way, that doesn't always end the way it does here, it can be quite dangerous when you have a lot of people with guns trying to figure out who is the assailant and who isn't, this should not let us stand in the way of doing actual common sense gun reforms despite the fact that it's an amazing story. >> emily, while congress is trying to figure it all out, people want to feel protected and there's not enough cops to protect us all. so shouldn't we be asking for more lives like this so people feel protected? >> emily: to add to that remarkable quality about the situation, that law just passed in september and it's just a couple months old, that enabled parishioners to have their carry concealed inside and also the

security force that they created. i think the state senator who cosponsored the bill said it best which is that there is no such thing as a gun free zone. she said evil people with evil intentions will carry out their heinous acts regardless of the legislation that's in place were not in place. so in the interim i believe those laws that enable law-abiding citizens to carry and conceal to feel protected, that's why we can protect another situation like this where we can if it comes to add, recreate it. and six seconds, that coming was told to come a final .2. they had been training for this. as the parishioners stated, they didn't want to have it come to fruition but it's also something that law-abiding citizens can pull out of their sleeve.

>> i should note that this is a volunteer force and if many of you have seen the video, they all spring into action. you can clearly see that they have training, but tom, what do you think about people taking the destiny into their own hands? there were not cops there. this was a volunteer force, they just decided they wanted to go to church and protect themselv themselves. >> they always say they are not a hero, and, first responders, and i understand the irony of that because they get the tourniquet's and, people who have been injured, they are keeping them alive. that's a first responder, there was less carnage there for them to have to take care of. the other thing i love, and they

had the shooter up there, i haven't seen the shooter, i'm sure we will see him, and theywn the shooter on tv. >> about the politics concerning the guns and all this but the simple fact here is, there wasn't a mass shooting. it could have been a lot worse. these people sprang into actions of doctors like you wouldn't have to have a mass crime scene or live in the hospital. >> i got pretty nervous right there, sorry. so we are already see reaction t of shooting that we see and i get concerned as to what's goinn the media. we don't know enough about the specific shooting as of right

now to know exactly what happened, but the small things that we have seen i would get concern on many levels because you have every democrat still in the race, potentially could not have stop this from happening. that was illegally obtained firearms and protecting the citizens there. this gentleman who took out the attack, he was arrested in 2016 in new jersey for illegal possession of firearms. and he wasly have these legallyt this point. he wanted 75% of player arms, whether they are stolen or not. that's better prosecution, and

that's during a hanukkah celebration in new york city. the fbi revealing today that, mirrored bill de blasio reacted by blaming the preside president. >> an atmosphere of hate has been developing in the country over the last few years. >> we need a different tone starting in washington. >> marie? >> this guy is a clear black supremacist hateful person, crazy, and president trump is responsible? >> the first is not the isolated incident unfortunately. and also, other parts of the country. i will say that a lot of his

rhetoric and him re-tweeting rights of premises, encouraging conspiracy theories and supporting people like david duke, this allows some people who, its eyes somatic feelings, revealing racist feelings, and it doesn't mean it's his fault. >> is a president anywhere around this? >> i think that oversimplifies the issue. and then there is the rise in anti-semitic's, law enforcement for security cameras et cetera and we've been ignored at every level and now we have the mayor and the governor saying that something needs to be done. meanwhile the same gentlemen are now reforming bail so that 400 plus crime divisions or divisions of crime have those

defenders released on no cash or no bond available. that's 90% of criminal cases including one of those women who committed those crimes and punched two jewish people in the face multiple times. this is absolutely a huge part of the problem and a quick distinction from new jersey, they can take into account public safety. for example this woman who committed that anti-semitic crime in this state, no holds barred. >> that's -- it's a president responsible for this? >> and steve cuomo is an idiot as well for saying this. if anyone said barack obama, he is responsible for this, it's a ridiculous but they continue to get away with it.

this person who committed these crimes is a known schizophrenic. bill de blasio was given $1 million for his campaign, and the rest was a big p.r. campaign. you have to focus on mental illness. anti-semitism is rampant, not just the united states, and mentally ill patients, he is an untreated schizophrenic who when he reads things on social media and media will run with it. >> amen to that. next up, you won't believe what joe biden says. you may know him, he is the former president. g

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>> marie: welcome back, welcome to our 2020 wind up. >> will president biden nominates dr. obama to the supreme court? >> if he would take it, yes. >> a kind of put them up to th that, that's dr. obama. >> so he has to say yes to that. he reminds me, when rudy giuliani was running for president, and this is the way

joe biden is with obama. as long as he can keep reminding us that he was vice president and bringing up obama in the context he would not nominate barack obama to the supreme court, it would be a terrible nomination because what we try to do is act as if we are taking politics out of supreme court, it's always there. but to nominate a former president to the supreme court it would be a ridiculous move and i don't think he would do it but, he has to say yes in that instance. that's just more of him. and he wanted it the last time they ran, and it's also a form

of disloyalty. when they go back to 2008, one of the reasons why obama was put on the ticket is because biden had no foreign policy of. american people know this, but it just shows you with the democratic field is. none of them can defeat this guy. >> barack obama took up constitutional law. he would not be a bad nominee. and i think joe biden might consider nominating him. and it, they trust him, and

trust his judgment having been nice present for barack obama all of the years. i think both things are true, but i don't know whether he will be able to do that in a state like iowa in the caucus. i just don't know, we haven't seen that yet. >> does biden have the chops, absolutely. but will he be the president to going to the lowest ranking on the high court? i don't think he will take a government job. he could have been planted there because i think joe biden likes to talk about him a little bit. he loves him and the opportunity. >> so let's just do a lightning round of the second half hour.

>> lightning round? >> yes, or maybe not. so, you pick. how do you feel about the fact that andrew yang's thing the democratic party is unfortunately acting like donald trump it's a cause of all of our problems? >> people love andrew yang. >> are you in the gang gang? >> i might as well be. who would i pick tulsi gabbard or andrew yang west and mark they both of turn. he is saying what is a very true, democrats have a problem with donald trump. donald trump, they are obsessed with him, and because he's very crafty and brilliant at getting out of their skin, he's got an inside of their head. >> i think the elites in the democratic party and the consultants make fun of th gangt i think they should hire the guy. he has to appeal with people

that he just tells it like it is, and he gives them some advice, not from a political standpoint but from an average guy. i think it would behoove them to pay attention to that. i think he shows what average day people are thinking about politics. >> yang is more connected of the average voter because they are saying they could do a complete takeover of health care and other things but that's not lowering costs to people. that's not actually lowering the overall cost for the average american. yang understands you can't focus on trump if you are going to win the election and that's why the democrats are not going to win the election. >> and he might even give us a little cash which i like. >> get that it guaranteed income, right? >> i think we should endorse that. >> joe biden heckled yet again

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>> marie: joe biden heckled again while stopping on the campaign trail. >> this is not a trump rally. i agree with you, nice talking to you. this is a democracy. let her go. >> marie: at the former vice president is reversing course after causing some controversy coming after biden said he would not honor the senate impeachment trial subpoena saying it would distract from president trump's behavior. so lawrence, a couple of questions on the subpoena. the first is the trump administration has ignored a

couple of subpoenas from the house. they did not send several people to testify. why should biden? >> lawrence: challenges in the court and separation of power. >> marie: the second question is, the senate trailers to judge president trump's behavior and soul of joe biden's behavior is not part of the impeachment article. >> lawrence: it but this is where the center of this started according to democrats because he wanted dirt on his opponent's home bring him in. but let's talk about joe biden because he flip-flopped. first he said he wasn't going to appear and then he said he was going to appear but he has a big problem. he still doesn't have an answer on the hunter biden thing. this dismissiveness will work with the mainstream media right now, but when you get on the general stage, you will have to answer to them. donald trump will go blow for blow. so he will keep the question until he's officially answered it. and you know, hunter's baby mama

might get the answer before he does. >> i'm not sure that has anything to do with it, but we are about to start an impeachment trial on the senate. how are we looking forward to what's coming in the new year? >> it's not so uncommon that this it actually does occur. looking forward to 2020 and the impeachment trials, i would like to say, inquiring americans want to know, how dirty is joe biden? the ukrainian call is, trump suspects corruption. is there corruption there? is there corruption there that involves a former vice president, now presidential candidate? and i would like to know that at this point. i would like to see if vice president biden comes and answer those questions because i do think when there is smoke there is fire and there might be something there.

>> marie: emily, do you think we should have witnesses in this trial? >> i think that's frankly up to the g.o.p. strategy it and the white house strategy, whether or not they feel that witnesses will be beneficial to their case. >> should it be though? should that be the question? or should it be a fierce trial? >> i think one issue that i have with biden's comments about the legitimacy of the congressional oversight, is that an average american doesn't see it as as tribal a stick as these guys are making it out to be. that's transparency on both sides and, i think all of us will believe more in the entire process. it would be more if everyone involved would, just a little bit support the process itself. so we hurried up biden, a double back on his comments and said, here's what i meant.

i always complied with lawful congressional oversight but this isn't that. how are are we supposed to then take that when there are hundreds of elected officials up there? we can't black-and-white it. final point, this isn't a trump rally, it's more further in that narrative of us versus them, we are better than them, these guys as the votes matter less in their opinion matters last on that contempt was going to carry through the election and ultimately would be beneficial. >> marie: i know you are all looking forward to this, how are you handicapping what we will see in the senate? >> it becomes more and more clear. but the president wanted investigations to take place in the ukraine and we all know that at this point but the press keeps calling them politically beneficial to donald trump. at the same time they say, the joe biden thing is a conspiracy theory. well, if his conspiracy theory than it would be politically

beneficial to joe biden to investigate, not donald trump. do you guys see that fundamental logic problem that we are all going to be experiencing when joe biden has to face up to the stuff? if donald trump wanted investigations and if joe biden was clear the investigations would benefit joe biden. >> marie: one of the interesting things he said and one of the witnesses as part of the house hearings, president trump just wanted some political argument. >> at some point you have to investigate. >> it's not a fact, that's what they felt like. none of the witnesses said the president said that, they said this is what they feel. >> marie: we will be at watching this for after the new year. up next president trump facing off over the homeless crisis, that's up next. stay tuned. ♪

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>> marie: liberal cities are pointing a finger at president trump for the growing homeless crisis and that comes after trump blasted california and new york on twitter and said the federal government might help the state leaders asked for it politely. new york city mayor bill de blasio responded by saying this. >> the problem ultimately is donald trump has not shown any willingness to give us the tools that we need most especially section 8 vouchers which allow people to live in rental housing. that's the single strongest piece we need from washington that we are not getting right now. >> many times we have seen the hud budget is zeroed out, no additional resources. >> we have the lowest unemploymt

rate and yet you have at the liberal mayors and governors decriminalizing drug use. so is it really that the trump administration needs to do something or the local lawmakers need to be doing something? >> this is a local matter. all these locals series have been covering it, and we'd seen it jacked up before donald trump and the city won't take matters into their own hands. it's decimated my community, a and, they are requesting more than to section 8 funding. >> no one knows what they

long-term strategy is. it's a huge problem, it isn't an epidemic in some of these places and it is heartbreaking. i don't know quite frankly, i don't know the policy level is. i react so negatively to the way president trump and the language he uses to talk about the homeless problem, i know we say this a lot about them but these are people, these are humans and the way he talks about it and uses it to go after some of his political rivals, it's not helping solve the problem. it just feels so heartless. you see people who can't find a place to live and i don't know what the answer is. and now tom, last year the liberal ninth circuit rule to

restrict the ability to actually clear homeless encampments and that is now making businesses leave these areas. that can't be good for the long-term cities. >> that's what president trump is doing, he's not being heartless but he's teasing mayors like bill de blasio who have failed policies. most americans hear that and they say what is this guy governing? america's biggest city? it's old school, bad, it's failed and doesn't work. >> the cycle of poverty. >> the federal government needs to be doing something but the federal government is wanting to make tighter immigration control. however california receives all of that. and how can they say that they need federal help or that the

federal government is not doing enough when they are rejecting with the federal government is trying to do for the homeless crisis. >> right, and what i'm hearing is an apt statement that is california and a lot of democratic runs, cities and states, they are sending historic amounts and homeless statistics are also historically spiking. the investment is made, it's a 50% decrease in homelessness and veterans. he is pursing his facts because, they are spiking in those cities including his -- in san francisco when he was mayor. they are obsessed with touting his own accomplishments.

and in terms of what you agree with, i think it's a war of compassion which is crippling. people on the left in terms of their approach to this which is why there's a failure to account for all those factors like drug addiction, until illness and the like. it's not just about units. >> a huge number of the homeless are on drugs or addicted to drugs as well. that's not it. they will not be functioning members of society and we have to come together in a multifaceted approach. i think the local government has a lot more that needs to be done and they need to stop saying, the federal government needs to step in when he actually is doing something to make it

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fastest seven. first up, a hotline bling. our tech addiction is so bad that even pope francis is telling people to put down their phones. that's right, the pope says we should ditch our devices at the dinner table and start talking to each other. okay, emily, the pope has a point this time, i think he's right. look at all you people, you are all on your phone so i'm doing my route rita. >> oh, we are on-air? [laughs] >> at least you turned it over as i spoke. do you have it at the dinner table? >> marie: no. i grew up with good conversation of the table. >> so your conversational ability comes from your family? >> i didn't mean that. but yes, i agree with the pope, totally. >> they are everywhere now. he's saying mass and they are filming him and he says, put the phones down in church.

>> they are spreading the gosp gospel, but i do think technology is destroying that and i think that's why we are obsessed with it. i think that parents that monitor their kids more about that could be a better example of not having your phones out. >> may bill it makes you a more productive person. if i'm not incorrect, you made dinner reservations during the commercial on your phone? >> no i did not, i made them weeks ago on my phone. no phones at the table and no phones in bed before you go to sleep. that's bad for you. no phones in church. i could list all the places that you shouldn't have your phone. >> i have a bible app though so i need my phone in church. >> i support that. >> i'm old school when it comes to church. >> i do to get the bed with me because i listen to audiobooks. >> the pope said two messages, be responsible for yourself and put on your phone.

unfortunately, we are glued to our phones. my husband and i are both positions so our phones are going off all the time. we do our best to put it away during food. next up, would anyone on "the five" care to pod share? what am i talking about? it's a housing option popular among cash-strapped millennials in cities in los angeles and new york. for $800 you can rent out a personal pod living situation and i think these are pretty cool. i use to do what they called youth hostels, i don't know if they still exist but i did the hostiles and i could live in one of these. >> you know what that will prevent? that will prevent your recent college graduates from moving into your basement and i think it's a great idea because then less of these kids are going to be in our basements, and start transitioning from college to getting jobs and it's a good idea. they will probably also spread a lot of things in there but to each his own. >> it was clean enough, i could stay there back in my single

days. >> lawrence: no, too much going on right there. i'm already examining it. i'm kind of a german phobic but that looks nasty. if new york continues to raise the rent i probably will end up in one of those pods. i could see how a young person would do it to save money, some of them aren't hygienic so it probably would work for them. >> it's not that cheap, 800 bucks a month, am i out of touch here? i feel like it you could share with some friends. i do think that living situation kind of counteracts all of the negatives that we see with millennials and younger kids being obsessed with their phones which is actually learning from others. you have to learn how to cohabitate and learn how to have personal interactions and learn how to clean up after yourselves, so those kind of positive things and positive aspects come out i've ate. i guess you could choose to do it when you are older, too but

that takes a certain kind of person. >> i think it's safe to say that audiences positively hated this movie and it's continuing to bomb at the box office and it's reported that the musical could lose anywhere between $71,000,100,000,000. doctor, did you even know it was a musical? >> of course. but first of all it was a fourth longest running play on broadway, let it go. let it rest. >> know that's "frozen." >> no. but why do we have to force these into movies? can't we just have separate broadway and movies? >> i agree. west side story is coming around the pike. >> you know what i get upset about? west side story is a classic and by the way, the pc patrol is going to go all over it. like, let's not ruin some of our historic rates. >> i think katz's always

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possibly be me, hey, bumble, is being me exclusionary? don't shut me out of the hive." >> finally, bumble restored her account and hopefully she's able to find someone great on the app in fron from when i learned outs that women have to reach out to the men which is kind of parallel. that was her character. the woman in charge. >> i just want to say, some of the guys stop using my picture. [laughter] >> all these fake times. >> talking all the time. >> the hive! >> think about the celebrity being on the platform though. >> i was thinking about it. it seems like a p.r. thing. >> it's hard for her in real life i would think but then why isn't she just doing it anonymously. speak up when you get a lot of

grief? >> it may help. >> we got to go. >> this is the addition of "the five," "special report" is up next. >> good evening, welcome to washington on mike emanuel in for bret baier. christmas is over and hanukkah ends this evening. if members of both a christian and jewish face were under attack over the weekend. fox team's coverage of correspondent jeff in texas where a gunman opened fire in the church killing two but for the parishioner with the gun could have been much worse. correspondent julie internet looks at the rise of anti-semitism and religious hate and what president trump is doing about it. we begin with correspondent jacqui heinrich where the accused and the latest attack and now faces federal hate crimes. a good evening, jackie. >> good evening, my, the case now faces federal hate crim