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democrats not happy with the move. >> tragically his actions now put us on the path to another war. >> he's been erratic and unsuccessful in almost every previous foreign policy endeavor. this is the most dangerous of all. >> we are not safer today before donald trump acted. >> we seem to accomplish what soleimani did but couldn't but in death he's accomplish his goal. >> this and was an enormous escalation. >> taking out a bad guy was not a good idea unless you are ready for what's next. >> democrats saying that the drone strike is a distraction from impeachment. >> i think the people reasonably ask is next week, donald trump faces the star potentially of an impeachment trial. and why now? >> this action was taken more in

president trump's self interest rather than national interest. we've had damning developments in just the last day where emails came out that made it very clear that they covered up the real reason behind the withholding of the hundreds of millions omillions of dollars t. >> pizza, when you hear the democrats saying, wait, why did they do this now, is this related to impeachment, what do you think? >> with friends like the democrats, who need the iranians? this is the resistance continuing overseas as adamantly as we've seen in your home. you may not like president trump. you may have voted for impeachment in the house. but if you are someone like comrade cortez, alexandria ocasio-cortez saying, a tweet threatening the iranians is in it of itself a war crime, you've lost your mind. >> that was related to destroy the cultural -- >> 52 sites, one which could be

cultural. i don't care about iranian cultural sites, i'll tell why. to understand the islamic republic of iran, if they could come if they have the power, they would destroy every single one of our cultural sites and build a mosque on top of it. if you don't understand the nature of our enemy you are foolish of who you are pointing out and whether or not you are happy that soleimani is dead. this guy exported terrorism for 40 years and the fact democrats in this country can't take a pause to say this is a good thing, not let's figure out how to prevent and the iranian bomb, they go straight to politics and it's shameful. >> sandra, this raises an important point. what's next? a lot of people think that may be the president acted impetuously without thinking about what consequences may come from taking out soleimani. >> to repeat the words of mitch mcconnell on the senate floor a few moments ago, they rushed to split hairs about intelligence before they were briefed on it. they rush to downplay the

soleimani whilehe is a republican senatore questions over the intelligence were questioned before we even knew what was behind it, the details behind it. that has changed. today we learned there is going to be a senate briefing on wednesday for the department of defense is going to brief -- i believe a house wide briefing on the intelligence behind this. so why condemn this before we even know why the president made the decision to do it? >> greg, the question would be why don't we know. > know what? >> why the president acted? >> we do know. i just got back from the flu, so i understand that trump did something? >> you got it. >> wait a minute, so he killed a murderous, homicidal maniac who killed 600 americans and he is the bad guy, right? trump is the bad guy? this is why people are saying,

what do you do next? because what was now was correct -- no one can question the actual actions of trump. instead, you can shift into what if it i will admit right now that i'm not expect on iran in the middle east, but i will happily tell you that neither everyone else. there's been no proof of success from any of the analysts on television telling you that they know what's going to happen next or what happened in the past. they know nothing. so take everything with a grain of salt. every apocalyptic prediction has been wrong including, hey, moving the embassy to jerusalem for that was supposed to be the end of the world. i love it, i love it, i love it. oh, now those iranians are really pissed. like when they were killing our troops, they were deeply admiring us? it's going to restart their nukes like they actually had stopped them? they are like your dirtbag cousin drug addict. they tell you he stopped -- no, he moved into another house.

the idea that we kicked the hornet's nest is an actual lie. the hornets have been out of the nest and been sitting us forever. case in point, i've been watching our great leader neil cavuto. doing a segment on trying to predict what the iranians might do to us in terms of cyber attacks, banking institutions, stuff like that. he cited what they did in the past, meaning that they already attacked us. many, many times. don't you think that would play into the decision-making to take out this guy? he already attacked us? we took out the charles manson and it's on us? sorry. we keep seeing all these shots of these large crowds of mourners. mass protest in iran is what you call thursday. saying death to america? that is their pilates. saying check out their large protest? that's they are chick-fil-a.

we are used to this. it's been going on since the revolution. they treated us like crap. we took out a bad guy and what seeing what was heinous under trump was bold under obama. >> interesting point that greg makes, president bush and obama decided not to take this step. they could have. when the option was presented to them, they said they weren't interested in the consequences, the idea of going to war potentially with iran. today, people are asking the questions about the intelligence. you see that the american public, specifically the democrats, are like, we aren't sure what president trump's bases was for this, and americans have a lot of questions after 9/11, weapons of mass destruction that proved not to be there. what do you think? >> i think the why now is that the soleimani's proxy force targeted u.s. troop 11 times last few months, they killed an

american contractor and storm the u.s. embassy, act of war. there was restraint after the attack on an american drone that downed it, restraint after in the runyan attack on's foliage facilities here's your redline for the terrorists who killed a millik americans with impunity. the redline's death and president trump did not forecast what that redline was. but here it is. i want to point out a couple more quick things. president obama's policy with iran was to funnel money into the hands of the terrorists. the quods forces, a terrorist organization, at least initially $1.7 billion in pallets of cash set in the dark of night that we

wouldn't even know about without "the wall street journal" reporting, that went straight into soleimani's hands and straightened to killing americans and straighten to fomenting terrorism around the region. that's the wind now. that's why he's dead. >> to me, what's interesting is that we are, you had in terms of the iran deal, a promise and the iranians were keeping it. >> you believe that -- >> yes. it's not just me, i believe much of the world. not only were they not doing that and now they've pulled out of the deal, now we have unrest throughout the middle east. >> wait, one, we have ungreased in the middle east? i've never heard that before! unrest directed at us in the middle east? >> imagine president trump sending 250 americans now when he was pulling on a moment ago. >> to reinforce an embassy? that's a novelty. >> i just thought we were getting out. 2020 democrats putting majored

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>> the battle for 2020 heating up as we begin a new year. new polling showing bernie sanders surging in both iowa and new hampshire. a separate new national poll showing michael bloomberg rising to a tie for third place, incumbent joe biden continues to stumble on the campaign trail. biden with his own story urging obama to delay the killing of usama bin laden. >> but you have to use an air strike to take out a terror leader, would you pull the trigger? >> we did. his name was usama bin laden. >> digging yourself tell president obama not to -- >> i didn't. >> i said, you have to make an opinion. my suggestion is, mr. president, don't go. we have to do two more things to see if he's there. >> interesting stuff there.

judge judy saying she's now backing michael bloomberg and hit the campaign trail for the billionaire. >> to define michael bloomberg as just another rich guy is one of the greatest injustices of this political campaign that we are in. because michael bloomberg is the only one of the candidates who has experience governing and managing. >> what does she have, 10 million people a day watching her? does that have a big influence on michael bloomberg's possibly is run? >> was that ruth bader ginsburg? took me a second. what's interesting about her, judge judy, her audience is literally suburban women who are the be-all and end-all for political consultants in this president torres. she's not a hollywood endorsement, she's a cultural endorsement for people who have a lot of respect for judge judy.

she tells a lot of folks, stop with the foolishness, straighten yourself out, do right, get right with god. that's what you comes across on television and that's why she's the highest-paid person. >> do you think they could go a long way with the working class voter? >> i wish she was running instead of my bloomberg. i'm not going to disparage judge judy, but mike bloomberg is going to need some help. he's spent at least of $100 million so far? it's like online dating. you look really good on an online profile. you basically clean up all your head shots. you google let once you start seeinghim in pern trail, he only pretty much like hanging around super rich people and i don't mean even judge judy rich, i mean multibillionaire's. he's kind of jerky. eventually that's going to turn people off. >> have you seen pictures of him? he is the least comfortable

person trying to look comparable in the world but he was staring at a plate of ribs today, tweeted that out. looking at the ribs as though it was made out of, i don't know, baby further the point is, running against the most at that the candidate probably in history. trump is -- love him, hate him, he's trump. in pictures, he's trump. on twitter, he's trump. on the street -- these people, they don't know what they are until they are asked a question. when you ask biden the question you never know what you are going to get, a stream of consciousness answer that sounds like a child's dream. >> what about joe biden, did you see bernie sanders going into iowa and new hampshire in pretty good position. >> i believed from the beginning he'd be the nominee. i think he's the authentic articulation, the closest thing to what to do the left has to offer even though he's a wacky

socialist. they keep going back to biden wanting him to be the front runner but they watch biden and he literally wanders around the stage while whispering, wondering what state he's in and wondering what position he did take while president trump yells out, where's hunter, and biden yells out, where's barack? isn't he supposed to be my boy? extension of the years that everyone cared for? you couldn't walk outside -- you probably agree with me on this, find an enthusiastic biden voter. yes, joe, he's my man. >> not even joe. >> i agree with you to this extent. i don't think that he has that kind of populist energy that bernie has been that's why bernie gets the big money from the small donors and joe biden has been struggling with that. but the problem for bloomberg and also for bernie is that biden continues to lead. at the top of iowa, new hampshire. look at that. >> he's leading in nevada by

nine points and he's leading in south carolina by nearly 19% over liz warren and bernie sanders. >> why do you think he said he approved of killing bin laden with something that so easy to check? >> it's not true! the best argument that biden makes is that he made sure that obama had the other side. the fact is, he said no. >> he probably doesn't remember. >> maybe he things bin laden is somebody else. >> may be he's modeling himself on trump. >> maybe he's putting a hit on his accountant. >> new autopsy photos raising questions about jeffrey epstein's death, the medical expert who says there could have been foul play. so you only pay for what you need. wow. thanks, zoltar. how can i ever repay you?

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we have brand-new photos from inside his manhattan jail cell on the day he died. piles of sheets and bedding scattered around and several nooses made from bedsheets like this one. fox news also obtained photos of epstein's autopsy. warning, the image we are showing you is graphic. it shows a blood line around the middle of epstein's neck, leading former new york medical examiner michael bomb questioning of epstein's death was a suicide. >> the closing out of the case as a suicide so quickly was premature. my concern is that the evidence is that it's not a hanging, it's in the homicidal strangulation. who did it, what happened, can't tell, but the findings are not -- more inductive homicide than suicide. >> you had the doctor on your

program today. that's where the clip came from. what questions still hang out there? all, i didn't mean that one! >> he's not concluding that he was killed in the jail cell, but he believes he heard him say that it was premature to say it was suicide because he's been hired by the family, the brother jeffrey epstein to further investigate this. talks about the ligature. you saw a picture of it there, the one that was supposedly used to hang himself. it doesn't match the wound on his neck, that's more indicative of a rope or a cord. it's more of a narrow indentation on his neck. also that there was no blood found on the news, and he was back to his original theory that the fractures in his neck did not launch that the suicidal attempt, it looks like something else. >> inconsistent. had a cellmate that was put out beforehand. a lot of theories as it pertains in this case but what do you make a lot about these photos?

>> i think the news was actually a belt from hillary's pantsuit. i like that joke. the question about suicide is less relevant than the absolute ambivalence of a media to pursue this story while the major players are still out there. i find that kind of interesting. i do think now it is suicide. there were multiple nooses, generally a person who commits suicide would have multiple nooses in case one breaks, right? i don't know if you would stage something you'd stage it with multiple nooses. i do love the doctor, dr. death on red eye, one appearances. he has a dog in his hunt because it represents the brother, there must be some insurance claim involved in that. should care out, she was also on "60 minutes" and no one cares. it was fantastic.

she confessed to killing epstein and nobody knows. >> you've got details like the guard who found epstein's body has yet to be interviewed. he has lawyered up. when you look at the information we learn, the phototaxis, where do you make where we are? >> the actual victims of jeffrey epstein deserve the myriad of victims of jeffrey epstein. she said, i'm glad his death is being investigated. there are too many anomalies surrounded by his incarceration and his death to be ignored. the survivors deserve answers to what happened to this monster for us to never get to take his freedom away as he took ours. she said that on twitter. again, we are still watching. according to julie craig brown, the reported out of the "miami herald," epstein would've never been indicted if not for reporting on the victims.

since march of last year. there are a lot of other people that they ought to look into. former model management guy? i could go down the list. >> don't go too far down, okay? >> if you look at the 60 minutes segment segment, new photographs revealed, who has the motivation to move the story forward and prove that he didn't kill himself? >> people who want money for his estate right now are in line to collect some of that money because he killed himself. they wouldn't be if, in fact, someone killed him to prevent it. they are all these conspiracy theories, unless you are talking about the clintons and all these kind of thousand all these famous men -- >> that's how these questions get asked. >> the fact is, pete, the part that really stops this in my mind is a new york medical

examiner -- have they been bought? they said this was suicide. you have to say some however is involved in this conspiracy had bought off the new york medical examiner. "60 minutes" i consider to be a first class organization. i do not know why they put their money and credibility on the line with this, but they clearly did yesterday. there is new evidence, it's interesting. i'm sure the viewers want to see it. but to suggest this is part of a grand conspiracy... >> to be clear, the medical examiner's office could not conclude. >> but they had concluded. >> there were inconsistencies. why there were no cameras working? why the guards were not on duty? why they fell asleep? >> why the victims will never get their day in court. >> that segment, a former federal warden said in a monumental failure at all levels. that leads people to ask questions which leads to theories and that we are talking.

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>> television has a way of uniting americans in a way nothing else can. a staged moon landing, 1980 winter olympics. where we beat the germans in volleyball. last night's club in golds where ricky gervais' gave a blood he knows to the greatest villain, everything you wanted to say to the pulsating flesh of hollywood including this beautiful middle finger with self-importance. >> rolling into the tv game with a morning show, drama about the

importance of dignity and doing the right thing made by a company that runs sweatshops in china. when you say you are welcome but the company you work for -- unbelievable. apple, amazon, disney, if prices started a streaming service, you'd call your agent, wouldn't you? iif you do win and award tonigh, don't use it as a platform to make a political speech. most of you spend less time in school than greta thunberg or if you win, come up, except your little award, thank your agent, your god and [bleep]. >> 911, i'd like to report a masker at the beverly hilton. right then, hollywood therapist hiked up their prices. also knocked their desperate desire for wealth miss explaining why he left out the in memoriam segment which honors performers who died in the past year. >> we were going to do when in memoriam this year but when i saw the list of people that had

died, it wasn't diverse enough. just, no. it was mostly white people. and i thought no. not on my watch. >> that was so clever, few in the crowd got it. there was this punch in the fa face. >> in this room, the most important tv and film executives in the world, people from every background. but they all have one thing in common. they are all terrified of ronan farrow. he's coming for you. he's coming for you. >> look at that guy! look at is phase. how dare you bring up our industry's rapist, some of them might be here! x makes big nobody really watches network tv. everybody is watching netflix. you can binge watch the entire first season of "afterlife instead of watching the show. that's a show about a man who wants to kill himself because his wife dies of cancer and it's still more fun than this.

spoiler alert, season two was on the way. he obviously didn't kill himse himself. like jeff epstein. i know he's your friend but i don't care! >> a dream come true of anyone tired of hollywood telling you how dumb and racist america is as they continue to take our money from us dam, racist americans. gervais' is no righty can make an old-school liberal who believes in freedom of expression but freedom from the expression of intolerant woke. do you think they'll wake up? they are too vain into software to see the truth even if it came raining down from a pudgy breath. hats off who last night didn't really tell a joke, just expose the biggest one of all: hollywood. he's got the oscars. i don't think they have a host!

speaker they need him, right? i think fox needs him. i think you do well here. >> he could be on "the five." >> our ratings are good. the ratings for this award shows? they are terrible. typically, by the way, you would think award show, hollywood people, comedians irrelevant to politics. but when ricky placed on the right, you guys love him. >> i've been saying the same thing for years, but your face politically on the left for the longest time. i think this is happening because he's seeing a threat to freedom of speech from his own party. >> he's a comedian. >> he sees them as you see on campuses the stifling of free thought. >> comedians are truth tellers and they tell us things the comedy in ways we could laugh other than we could have in conversation. i was watching this alive, i was watching the football game and happened this to be after and i

rewind it to believe it because you never see something like that. it's amazing to watch. it took courage, he'll probably never come back. he said that a couple of times. >> maybe he will. >> they would be wise of the oscars the higher greg gutfeld. >> no. >> i think some of the numbers are already out. tracking eight year viewership below. but i still think it was up from numbers compared to the rest of the network tv season. there was a bit of truth telling but a message to those about to take the stage they were delivering for that was, don't get political with your speech. that did not happen. if you watch the rest of the award show, it was about kyle image change, got developed in 2020, we need to change the world. brad pitt -- maybe not a political message but a nice one, he urged client and this during his acceptance speech.

>> brad pitt had better work done than anyone in hollywood. whether it's a dermatologist or whatever. >> he is a beautiful man. i can say that because i'm comfortable in my masculinity knowing that i'm better looking than him. >> more beautiful than he was even 20 years ago. >> did you see "once upon a time in hollywood?" film of the year. >> quentin tarantino won the golden globe for best musical comedy and i thought that the person who was not in the room was artie weinstein. he goes on trial today, the trial here in new york, new charges out in hollywood. i just want to call out all the people who benefited from turning their head away from what he was doing for literally decades. i don't care what political party you are a member of. i want more people who don't give a flying damn about what

hollywood in these left-wing liberal artists think. i want more dave chapelles. i want more wreckage or vase rickyjuror vase. just bring on the honor honesty and the laughs. >> i noticed the media rushing to defend these poor, within millionaire sex maniacs as if you need white knights to defend these people. they have their drugs, they have their book >> you really like thoseguys! >> i'm just jealous, juan. okay. the fastest seven is up next. ♪ limu emu & doug and now for their service to the community, we present limu emu & doug with this key to the city. [ applause ] it's an honor to tell you that

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>> welcome back. time for the fastest seven. first up, lori locklin getting ready for life in the slammer by hiring a prison tutor and also training in martial arts. she hasn't even gone to trial yet. greg, who would you hire? >> that's tough. anybody here at fox going to jail? never mind. i love she's taking a prep course like it's an s.a.t.

thing. something may be her daughter should've done. what does a prison expert teach you to do? how to turn a sharpie into a shiv? how to make soup out of a fritos bag russian mark learning the lingo and learning martial arts. >> that's okay. >> how much martial arts can you practice to be effective? >> how long is she in jail? >> we don't know yet, the trial! >> i can read the notes... >> here's a quote from the people of the magazine article, lori is a planner and she's doing what she needs to do. >> sandra, you're a planner. >> i don't know how you plan for prison. >> you should. i hear what you do on the weekends. i'm amazed you are not locked up. she'll get behind a bar. and then she'll run. >> martha stuart did that.

this goes back to the last segment because we are making fun of the hollywood elites. in fact, this is rich people and people and powers versus people who don't have money and don't have power who get caught up in a prison system and don't have much. >> they should have prison experts for every body -- you've got to go to a class before you go to jail. >> you get news in prison cell from a fellow prisoner there and i read that she has gone through prison school, i'm immediately testing that. >> they apparently edited because there is a bunkbed situation? you aren't supposed to sit on your bunk made a deposit is bad. >> don't sit on anybody's bottom bunk. >> better rule is don't have a bunkbed. a murphy bed. get a murphy bed. >> that's the pull down. next up, here's your worst flight nightmare caught on vid video. the pontius pilate had to return following the detachment after

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>> it is time now for "one more thing." i'm going to go first, i ran away i went to jamaica. >> yeah. >> take a look at some other pictures i brak tell mike that come out my together. of wheat where the same thing and exactly with my wife and my twin granddaughters, and here im with one of the girls looking at the giant beautiful caterpillar. here is my family at dinner and this was a big deal for us the christmas dinner and here are the grandkids and my daughter floating around on the holiday. it was an amazing holiday but let me tell you something, it's great to be back. greg, you go. >> tell me about it, i've been counting bathroom tiles. [laughter] anyway. ♪

you know, i think i'm going to take a jogging because i got fat again but it's really cold outside so you want to go out and then you go back in but it's like a bunch of craters and they want to go out and get some exercise and everything is great. then it's like, you know what's, no, forget it. i don't need this. that was me this morning thinking maybe it might be time to lose my gut. i can to exercise, i'm too thick and i like watching. ♪ >> you know, normally animals are great is upbeat. what happened there? >> i don't know, man, i'm on a two different things. [laughter] >> you're up, pete. >> in honor of jesse who will

not be here but will be back soon, the eagles lost on sunday but minnesota vikings did not. they got to drew brees and we can win the game and they did time and time again and the other variable in addition to put pressure on one of the grays court a box of all time was what kirk cousins and he did and he'e minnesota vikings. they played and san francisco 49ers next week. just watch the step. san francisco, straight from the airport on the bus. >> that's going to be a tough game, leave it on the field. >> the electronic show in las vegas is underway and they are releasing some technology. the kind of bathroom tiles you look up at that year, what can i do to fix my skin and currently it's a mirror that lets you know what you can do for your skin

care needs. >> the facial, the lotion. anyway, moving on, this is the robot. you can summon a roll of toilet paper from the star smartphone,t will grab it and replace it although sharman does not have any claims to have a commercial version at this time but the idea has been out there. >> just come with the toilet. >> so you know if you don't have it but you want one, you've got the virtual assistance, it's an avatar and you feel like there is a person there and so you got to take note. those are the new ones. >> bring us home. you never wanted to drive the winter mobile? years are shot. >> their accepting applications for 2020 winter mobile drivers and competitive salary, benefits, and free apparel. >> man, a man. i'd love to get into those fun

funds. >> take your dvr somewhere else, and "special report" is up next with bret baier. >> bret: just on the hall from the five and the breaking tonight president trump says dozens of sites in iran are fair game for u.s. strikes and if the country fulfills the promise to retaliate for the killing of the senior military commander. the president pushing back against nancy pelosi's the right to pursue legislation limiting his options with iran. meanwhile in the right-hand capital, road estimating in the millions mourning the death of general qassem soleimani. it fox team coverage tonight at the white house, president trump digs and against reaching criticism of his around policy and at the pentagon some confusion over whether u.s. is withdrawing all u