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>> all right, it's that time of morning. >> sandra: some of her last days days together, bill. fox news alert, fotis dulos, the husband of missing connecticut mother jennifer dulos is now in custody and charged with murder. that is according to his attorney, jennifer dulos first went missing in may of last year after dropping her children off at school. both dulos and his girlfriend had previously been charged with evidence tampering and hindering prosecution. we will have more on this developing story throughout the hour. >> another fox news alert, new fallout from the u.s. air strike that killed a top iranian general, secretary of state mike
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pompeo, today, defending the decision to take out qasem solemani amid new concerns about possible retaliation from iran. >> you can clearly see continuing efforts on behalf of this terrorist to build out a network of campaign activities that were going to leak potentially to the death of many more americans. it was a half down my car decision, we got it right. >> in the meantime, iran is weighing his options. >> they killed one of our most revered and senior commanders. and they took responsibility for it. this is state terrorism, this is an act of aggression against iran, and it amounts to an attack against iran and we will respond. but we will respond proportionately, not disproportionately. >> this is out number, i'm leslie francis, this is my
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partner harris faulkner. in the center seat today, buck sexton, former cia officer and the host of the buck sexton show. he is outnumbered, we are going to get reactions from the couch and just a moment. first, i want to go to trey yates who is live in baghdad with the latest, trey. >> melissa, good afternoon, at least 50 people were killed during a stampede at the funeral today for qasem solemani, that iranian general killed last week by and a u.s. drone strike. 200 people injured, thus ultimately pushed back the burial process. part of the larger concerns for iranians as they are seeing increased pressure to respond to the united states. there was a period of three days of morning implement it by iran's supreme leader, but newspaper and iran did say today, and they had a headline making this clear, saying "revenge is coming, very soon, we all became taking bombs."
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iraqi militias saying they are awaiting orders to carry out revenge attacks against the united states and its force in iraq. the forests here in iraq said iraqi leaders will meet in the next 24 hours to announce united friends mike front against the u.s. presence here. >> the pressure america exerts on the islamic nation will lead islamic countries to pull them out of their nest of spies and their military bases. i can see the day they will pull them out and hang them blindfolded from the tree use, in their cities. >> there is an all-too-familiar calm before the storm feeling here in baghdad. many residents are telling me they are extremely concerned about what the days ahead will bring between the united states and iran. the bottom line here is, if you are an iraqi and you not support the iranian regime, you were being threatened. if you are an american citizen here in baghdad, you are a
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target. melissa. >> melissa: be careful, trey. thank you. first, i don't want to let this go by, because kennedy and i both blanched when they said 50 people were killed during a stampede in the funeral? >> buck: the media has been covering this as if there isn't a whole out-of-state compulsion which i think needs to get a little bit more attention in this process. >> melissa: what does that mean? >> buck: it means school or being let out and kids are being told to go out there and cry for the cameras. it means if you don't go, the street militia if you will of the iranian regime, they are making sure people turn out for this. if you don't show up, they go house to house, door-to-door. i'm not saying there aren't people who are upset, there clearly are, but they are also swelling the numbers. were talking about a totality in state with no free press so, how much should we care that they are protesting them as numbers. we don't know how many of them truly believe this is an active regression that should be responded to in the severest way. >> harris: you are saying that, with your cia experience,
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because we had folks like martha radice performing live from irar were united in their condemnation of america. they were protesting against the government, now because of this apt action, the pole don michael population in the street has turned on america. you don't buy that? >> buck: there is a minx. there are people who support from the regime, directly benefit from the regime. there was talk about this a hard line. there is a youth bulge on the iran. the losses in the iran-iraq war were so extreme which is because people have more children which is been very destabilizing because i have this huge youth bulge that comes in and realizes this regime is bad. they just had to kill hundreds if not a few thousand of their own people. where is all that? all you were seeing his journals to see this honestly, in many cases, as an opportunity to show this was the wrong decision for trump. it's myopic, it's dangerous, they're not giving the full context of what going on. i'm nothing there falsifying,
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obviously there is huge protest. there are people who being told he better go out there or else. >> melissa: harris, you are nodding. >> harris: i'm nodding to the point that we don't really know what's going on in iran. we are not there to talk to these people, and so to assume that everybody is on the side of the regime, as you are pointing out, is probably not, it's just not factually based. but when you have 213 people injured and more than 50 killed in a stampede, that speaks to the numbers of people. i don't think it's consistent, as you are pointing out, with what we have seen in terms of the politics they are. so, what i'm seeing, is that the reports are they are mostly men who were caught up in the stampede. it just seems -- i have a lot of questions. you are just pointing to the reason why, it is not quite settling in my mind. i don't think we have settled on the fact that. >> buck: it is a country of over 70 million people. even if you have a couple of million, that might be the case here, this is what we're seeing on the streets. is that really representative of
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the sentiment of the iranian people, even a majority of them? we don't know, it's really hard to know. >> melissa: leslie, what you make of the fact that you see now, you see people out there giving interviews, saying watch out for what comes next, the fact that they are talking, as opposed to, you know, lobbing missiles or shooting bullets. does that tell you something? >> leslie: i think what tells us something is that he was specific that the retaliation has to be proportionate as opposed to some of the other things we are hearing. i live in los angeles, i know kennedy has lived there and does a sometimes. los angeles is the second-largest iranian population in the world next to iran. as a matter of fact, some iranians call it tehras angeles. many of them were happy about the action until the threat to the cultural sites came from the president's. the reason is, buck is actually right, they have a disproven
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portion at amount of youth. the youth has been more mahdi if you look at social media. they just did a 180 after that. >> melissa: let me stop you right there and ask you, hang on, you heard that way secretary pompeo responded to that this morning, when andrea mitchell asked the question, he said andrea, you're not really wondering if or really going to do that. i made it clear when i going to do that. the president seemed to be pushing back saying hey, look, i'm not going to be told what to do. secretary pompeo said again, and again. that isn't one of the things that feels like opponents of the presidents trying to nitpick and find something bad in what was good. >> leslie: know, there are two ministrations peered one republican one duct to mike democratic both looking to take this guy out. what we saw in both the bush and the obama administration was they decided not to because it was not in our strategic interest. when we do this, when we kill, what is the reaction to killing? more killing. that is what we are seeing, that is what is being threatened. >> melissa: here is what stephanie grisham had to say, kennedy can respond for the
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other side. >> i know a lot of people are now questioning the intel, that is really unfortunate. a lot of people are synced to what benefit? i will answer that question, the benefit was we saved american lives. we saved members of the military, we save diplomats, and we save a lot of families from having to welcome their loved ones home in a coffin. >> melissa: kennedy? >> kennedy: yeah, i don't want to take our eyes off the fact that we want to preserve life. life is sacred. like you, when i heard that there was a massive casualty event, with 50 people who are dead, if that happened in this country, it would be overwhelming, and we cannot lose sight of that. we don't want to send more people to die, because now, whereafter war in the middle east we say for what? when president talks but having a proportional response, weese taught think about that and we say it's not going to be that
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bad. but to them, we don't have a solemani in this country. we don't have someone who is that powerful and revered who is essentially running that place. that would be like ammo, justin trudeau, and donald trump personified as a single individual. but for them, proportional to them actually means bigger. we were reassumed proportional mean smaller. the other thing, to buck's point. -- >> melissa: year assuming they can do that, is that thing. here assuming they have that capability. i would push back and say that maybe the idea is to change what iran thinks they can get away with. there has been this creep and creep and creep of encroachment on the u.s. and of killing people, 600 people dead, 600 americans now. does this change what they think they can get away with, i'm just arguing the other side. see five it has not changed for years, in fact, really decades. the regime has been, this has
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effectively been a one-way war for a long time. a trump does not like one my words. he does not like a one-way trade road china, he does not like a one-way world china. this is a covert action were, effectively, with the regime. what we have been doing, hasn't worked. what we should be doing should always be put in the context of, if the iranians could, they would bring attorneys, they were destroyer infrastructure, they would kill large numbers of americans. they've been wanting to do that for a long time. the only reason they don't do that is they know we are all much more powerful country and they don't want to do with the consequent this. that has not changed, if anything, i think that has been ratcheted up a little bit in their minds. oh, there'll be severe consequent since. >> harris: really quickly, that emphasis you had on the people of iran. they also had that emphasis. like a media blitz right now with foreign minister, you have the u.n. ambassador, iran's u.n. ambassador saying we do not have anything against the american citizens come of the people. he went on pbs last night and told judy woodward could you be -- he is targeting an
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individual, he said i'm not in a position to tell you exactly what iran will do. they're not willing to make a separation between us the american people and the people to have a beef with. >> buck: that is critical, also i would say you're seeing a lot of journalists that are caught inferring with greater solemnity of the funeral possessions than they did in recent weeks. hundreds if not thousands of iranian people killed trying to speak out against their aegean. >> melissa: moderate republicans divided after former white house national security advisor john bolton says he would testify in a senate impeachment trial if subpoenaed. the potential impact, plus, senator bernie sanders and democratic congressman looking to block funding for military action against iran without congressional approval. is this the right political mo move? >> the president should not have taken an offensive action against iran without coming to
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>> we come in with this fox news alert. independent senator bernie sanders and democratic congressman at ro khanna have introduced a bill that would block federal funding for a war against iran without congressional authorization. earlier today, on "america's newsroom," congressman ro khanna question president trump's handling of the air strike that took out top irani and general qasem solemani. >> i do not in any way doubt this president's right to self defend. but i do not think that killing a solemani was defending against attack that was taking place
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that justifies not coming to congress. >> melissa: and there's this, the house is preparing to vote on a separate war powers resolution this week to require the u.s. to suspend all military facilities torrent of rain within 30 days. if congress does not authorize the use of military force. senator tim kaine put similar legislation onto the senate floor, watch, or don't, just watch us. to be once a work going back-and-forth with talk about war power. but you know, the authorization to go to war has not actually been renewed in a while. so what are we looking for in terms of what should be different here? >> buck: there is both parties, depending on who's in power, that's decide that all of a sudden congress needs to take back this authority and for the separation of powers we need to address this, it usually turns into a lot of rhetoric without much substance behind it. i think what a lot of democrats are doing now is, effectively, trying to make some noise about trump is reckless, this is what we keep hearing.
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to be they trying to build impeachment case somehow with this? see five i just think they're trying to set it up so no matter what happens they will have gotten the base, the democrat base upset about this. there's no legislation they can put in place that will change the president's rights as commander in chief in this role. they were questioning intelligence, they haven't even seen the intelligence in most case, or any case as far as i know, about why he called the strike here. nothing is going to change except there's a lot of talk about it. >> harris: leslie, you had a visceral reaction. before the legislation that is put forth by ro khanna and bernie sanders was put forth and passed on a bipartisan level, this past summer. very similar legislation. i don't agree that it's all democrats, all the left, for this reason. one of the concerns of something the president has said, and seemly he has been doing, is using social media. you can't use social media, you can't use twitter to effectively declare war. the constitution is very clear, the war powers act is very clear.
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all congress is doing is saying look -- >> buck: we haven't been in an actual war since world war ii. >> leslie: do you think that's possible in the place right right now? see five i think it's possible that we could go to war with iran. i think the administration is doing everything they can to not go to war. as before but if we went to war thereon, or if iran proceeded they were going to war with them, do we think that we're just going to war with iran, or do we think that pro-terrorist organizations worldwide will come to their defense. >> melissa: do you think the president would do that without congressional approval? >> buck: i certainly hope not, but i think it's congress' obligation to hold him back. >> buck: congress heard tends to want to be able to hold him back, you have the ability to go to war, congress will vote on a bipartisan basis by the way, hillary clinton voted for arad, you have the ability to go to work, but work and i'll leave it to you, eventually, this just turns into a constitutional separation of power issue and who's gonna make that determination, it tends to be the present. >> harris: i do in a hit though, this level of your responsibility that you're
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hinting at. i don't know where that's coming from that that this president of the united states would put it up on twitter that were going to war with iran. look, i know democrats say there was not a threat from solemani and so forth. i interviewed the ranking of the top republican on house affairs yesterday, mike mccaul of texas, he was briefed, he said others were briefed, and it was clear and absolute, i don't want to say evidence, because that's not the word use, but intelligence was the word he used that there was an imminent threat. feel free to talk to him or anybody else on it, he can give you much more detail. my point in saying that, though, is though many attorneys that he didn't even need it. but i hear the underlying from democrats and it's at the president acted here responsibly. that fits in with the impeachment narrative, so i come back to that now. are democrats politically looking for something to bolster their case which we still have not seen. >> leslie: i don't think this has to do with impeachment so much. i think they are completely blowing it on impeachment right
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now. i don't know what nancy pelosi is doing. but, back to your point, congress has exceeded their authority and their power for a long time over several ministrations and that is on them. they can't now, conveniently go, we want to be able to declare war. they should have done that the entire time, because we have been in ongoing war and conflicts and whatever you want to call them, and constitutionally, there is a separation of powers, because the founders knew that you can't trust power. that is essentially the same thing here. you can't trust power in any one individual should not be able to send thousands of people to die, whether it is a democrat or republican. whether it is iran or libya. >> harris: i don't think that's happening though, there isn't an individual that sending everybody off to war. maybe what the fundamental differences -- >> kennedy: you could argue that with george w. bush and say that he didn't make anything anything better and thousands of
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americans have died for these causes. >> melissa: i think the difference is that there is one group of people that is really looking for what else could we possibly do. can we buy them off, could we do anything. there's another group of people who wants to stand up and say enough with power. neither side trusted the others to be in charge. it's not even republican democrat, who is very hawkish and says we stand up and say enough and who was all right, we have to really do everything else in our duty. no one is wrong, everyone wants a same outcome which is the fewest people dead. they just don't trust the other side. >> harris: my question politically would be who benefits from this. of course around benefits from chaos that has been created as we try to figure out what is what and what councils were and what doesn't. >> buck: i think the biggest factor other than the retaliation level which everyone is paying a lot of attention to right now, is what happens in iraq. we have the iraqi parliament vote on the issue of u.s. withdrawal of troops. people had already argued that iraq has become effectively and
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ronnie and state in many ways because of why what has happened there. if we pull out forces i think it depends on how the situation plays out, it depends on what the iranian responses and the administration has to be looking at it because, remember, trump, trump space, they don't want endless war, they don't want the occupations to continue in these countries. trump is trying to get us out of afghanistan, he does not want it. i think threat to trump's relation if he gets drawn into war. >> kennedy: if he gets us into a war here, he does not deserve to be reelected. >> buck: i don't disagree. >> harris: were going to psych about this more, no doubt. but this is a fox news alert, b26 arriving at the state police precinct, this is in connecticut, after he was arrested and charged with murder in connection with the disappearance of his estranged wife jennifer dulos. we have more on this breaking story, this is bridgeport, connecticut, right here, as he is arriving, we have more and less on the other side of the break.
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>> melissa: now back to one of our top stories, connecticut police arrested fotis dulos, the estranged husband of jennifer dulos, and charged him with murder. his attorney says, to other people were arrested and are now facing charges. at laura ingle has been closely following this case for months, and she joins us live all from our new york city newsroom with more. laura, i know you have a recent interview on this, as well. >> i do, i just spoke with fotis dulos last month and i want to play you a clip of that. fotis dulos taken into custody this morning at his farmington, connecticut, home by connecticut state police. we have video of him being led away in handcuffs. we're just getting that video, we said the police is forming his home and we were tipped off to this, and as you can see, there he is being led away from his home. it is a huge home. he is being transported to bridgeport, connecticut, swarmed
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with cameras there, before he will be arraigned. we are still waiting to find out when i will be, if it will be today or tomorrow. his lawyers told reporters a short time ago his client has been arrested and it will be charged with murder in relation to it jennifer dulos, of course, his estranged wife who had been missing for over seven months now. jennifer's between a seven was last seen may 24th after dropping her five children off at school and has not been seen sense. fotis dulos being held on $6 million bond. this is the third arrest for a dulos who was arrested twice before with his former girlfriend michelle trick on us for tampering with evidence and obstructing justice. norm pettus says there are two other arrest coming on this, we are waiting to confirm if it is my show, we have also heard another attorney done mike attorney who is with fotis dulos in the early stages of jennifer's disappearance. according to the arrest warrants and that tampering charges case, police believe that fotis dulos was lying in wait at her home
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where they found evidence that she was the victim of a serious physical assault after finding bloodstains and a spatter inside her garage. investigators have also said that fotis dulos' dna was mixed with her blood on the faucet of the kitchen sink. there has been a lot of speculation there. both fotis dulos and his girlfriend were released on bond in order to wear gps monitoring devices while the investigation is ongoing. there is been a gag order in the case, but mostly, you're right, i spoke with fotis dulos december 20th about a civil case he was involved in with jennifer's mom. i asked him some key questions in this case. >> did you have anything to do with jennifer's disappearance? as we go again, i will refer to the gag order so i cannot answer that. >> can you tell us where you think she might be? >> same. >> now there is no death penalty in the state of connecticut, he would face life in prison without the possibility of parole if used charged with murder with special circumstances, which could the
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prosecutor alleged was committed in the kidnapping or sexual assault. those are the parameters of the law. mostly, really quick, i just want to mention that in the state of connecticut, you can be charged with murder run there's nobody. as far as we know, the body of jennifer dulos has not been found. we await more diesels from police as we move through this afternoon with this developing is. >> melissa: laura, really quickly, because you've made a career reporting on these cases, i mean from this puppy done mike scott peterson on forwar. i am struck by how he was sitting there with you, so composed, so calm as a seasoned reporter having done this so many times, what were your impressions setting there? >> i really got the impression that he certainly wanted to talk to us about the money that he was just involved with the civil trial, but he was very confident in his answers, he was very confident in his demeanor which we have seen, you are right, and cases like scott peterson where, if he is involved in any way, he
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has talked himself into the fact that maybe he's blocked it out. we just don't know those details, but i can tell you that he was very confident in his stance with us, he wanted to sit down and talk call me. he knew that those questions were going to be coming, i said there's no way am not going to ask you those questions. but he wanted to sit down, he wanted to get on the record, he wanted to clear his name. he is very proud of his business, of his reputation, and that was what was important to him in that moment. we will see how these next two hours developed, and if he is going to go before a judge and get arraigned on these charges. >> melissa: yeah, because initially, it was a fight over money. laura, thank you for your terrific reporting, we look forward to more, thank you. >> this is a fox news alert, capitol hill feeling the ripple of former national security advisor john bolton saying he would testify in the senate impeachment trial if he is subpoenaed. senate minority leader chuck schumer is using bolton's offer to pressure republicans to
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calm another witness to testify. but majority leader mitch mcconnell has the vote to block his demand if he chooses. some senators are siding with mcconnell and witness servers. here is senator susan collins yesterday. >> i have suggested that we follow the precedent that was established with president clinton impeachment trial where we had opening statements by both sides, stag stage 2, senators cemented questions. the third stage was when we decided the issue of witnesses. >> kennedy: but one moderate republican senator not siding with mcconnell, it is my romney who says it is imperative that bolton testify. schumer needs at least four republicans about what democrats to call witnesses. so, buck, what is going to happen here? >> buck: you know, i'm not really sure, to be honest with you. i think that anyone looking out what democrats have done, thus far, would have to say this
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impeachment thing, i think if you're being objective, this is not worked out the way they thought it would. all the approval poll z can see show this did not move the needle they wanted it to. but now it's kind of an republicans hands to either make the right decision or make an error by -- does the republican senate effectively just shut this thing down. i know there's a possibility now than dismissing it before the articles are even transmitted over. everyone is now becoming a constitutional scholar on this issue overnight. but also, i would just say, there's the possibility that if they try to really make democrats pay for their transgressions this run the impeachment process by calling witnesses that maybe we'll look at for them, that could backfire. so i think, it could go either way. they are still honestly figuring out whether they want to just shut this thing down in essentially given no credibility or, try to use it as a way to relieve further exonerate the president. >> melissa: all right, nancy pelosi says she's not going to transmit those articles because mitch mcconnell has
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gone rogue. but he is saying no, i want to adhere to precedents and that is why he has gotten these moderate senators on board, is mcconnell handling this right so far? >> harris: he has some support on this witness issue. i don't know if you caught it, but senator marco rubio saying we don't need to hear from bolton because we can deal with mainly republicans, i would assume. we can deal with the facts that are already inherently part of this impeachment case. so they don't need more information, he wants to do it within the scope that they've already created. what josh halley though, is doing, i'm really curious, kennedy, to see, if they block this, do they lose republicans on other things? how politically risky is it to just block this effort to bring forth witnesses? democrats effectively did that, but they let a couple through. >> kennedy: they could have waited for some of the subpoenas to make their way through the
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court, and now, it looks like, there would've been a little bit more wisdom and that patience as opposed to forcing this timeline. but we are at an impasse. >> leslie: well, republicans wanted them to wait and slow down, now they're trying to hasten the salon perhaps. look, whether it is stage one, stage ii, stage iii, i agree with romney because in a senate it's a trial, it's different in the house, you have to hear from everyone. if ambassador -- hunter biden is either going to exonerate or fine like the president within gretchen this impeachme impeachment. bolton's testimony critics on a man that's why i'm surprised you're more republicans. >> harris: all right, real quickly, senate republican
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leaders are now prepared to go forward without democratic support. this is crossing by political, mcconnell prepares to move forward. that is interesting. >> buck: they should do that. they let democrats make the rules both time. >> melissa: binge watching politics one episode at a time. iran with the new threat, this immense reports israel is looking to distance itself from the u.s. a strike that killed qasem solemani. what all this means for our allies and you, that is next.
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israeli bed to mike benjamin nance and now cabinet that his members should distance themselves from all of this. >> buck: this is how we look at iran is going to start to calculate whatever their action would be. we know they can use proxies, they can create enough of a plausible or even impossible deny ability and a sense. they have these different forces, of course they are assisting the iraqi shia millitias they're also very involved in yemen. we look at these different terrorist regimes, it's likely they will try to use those, because then at least they can claim publicly that they are not the ones necessarily who did it, even though we all know. i understand why israel doesn't particularly want to get in the middle of the situation right now, because they've got their own problems with iran, right now, and will continue to. >> harris: leslie? >> leslie: you, and if nothing else, geographic proximity to
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iran. the united states, were over here, where across the pond. israel, i think the right to distance themselves. this was not something they controlled, this was not their action, even though they are a major american ally, there are separate state from the united states. i think they're wise to do that. seal and you know it's interesting about what you just said, i had to mention the human investor for around. he said the united states is not our neighbor, the united states is coming to our neighborhood from thousands of miles. it is better for the u.s. administration to leave the matter is of the region to state leaders there. it's interesting, kennedy? >> kennedy: i'm thinking about, because i was in high school when iraq abated kuwait. i was thinking today, i remember how scared the senior boys were that they were going to be drafted. that really caused a big shift in our lives. in the '80s, i remember the iran versus u.s. moment, what
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would happen if the united states had never gone to defend kuwait. what if kuwait had relied on her own neighbors? >> buck: it would be a province of iraq. >> harris: i don't know, going back to where we started with this, i'm not sure that i believe israel wasn't consulted or told about what happened, or what was going to happen. i'm not sure about that. as far as them being involved, there are the months i got the ball rolling, and pointed to that factory in tehran that was posted be a carpet factory but now the international atomic agency has confirmed that some atomic particles inside of it, indicating that there were nuclear weapons they are which violated deal. ceiling all right, we'll move on. with house speaker nancy pelosi still holding onto those articles of impeachment. sometime kennedy will do her impersonation. >> kennedy: nancy! >> harris: there it is. republicans are looking to change the rules and allow for impeachment to be dismissed. would that be the right move?
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impeach. they have done that, wrong decision, but they've done it. the senate has the power to try the case, and it's time for the senate to fight back. >> melissa: senator josh hawley slamming up oc for refusing to send articles of impeachment to the senate. he introduced a resolution that would give the house 25 days to send the articles to the senate. if the house fails, any senator can then offer this bleakly. leslie, what do you think about this, she can run over at any time, so why doesn't she do it? >> leslie: well, actually, there are more than more democrats, chris murphy is an example, saying she should send them along. she wants a robust set. that's what she said, that's what she's going to wait for her. then again, mitch mcconnell has put a much been clear about what the rules are going to be, and like you said, because at the republican majority, they're going to set the rules. holly is wrong, when i say he is wrong, i read the constitution again this morning on this point. there is no time frame in which
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she has to, she's not being unconstitutional when she wants to summing articles of impeachment to the senate. i know that she will send them and i believe that she's just trying to get mitch mcconnell to set forth. >> leslie: what about this idea that she has 25 days or whatever it was, then they're going to go ahead and vote to dismiss them if she hasn't. does not set a deadline almost a matter what? >> buck: there is a fundamental on seriousness here from democrats who, one of the primary reasons that they went forward with this is that they's said there was an urgency. urgency based on a national security threat, the president of the united states, the sitting president posed. that is the most extreme language you could really conjure under the circumstances, they did not want to go to court, the even said going to court is obstruction, which by the way, just constitutional illiteracy from the democrats. now, you have a circumstance where, actually, when we have our way, it's the way we wanted as fast as we want to, but if we can't have our way, then we played delay games. then we don't show up for the
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match. i think anybody who is trying to be honest about the process has to look at this and say, this is just gamesmanship, it's absolutely absurd. see two it's funny, kennedy, democrats are putting the onus on republicans to make a better case and have more time, they have no incentive to do that because they don't believe that it's there. >> kennedy: that's not how the process works. the whole thing is been completely dishonest. what are you doing here? this is impeachment. this is incredibly serious. you are undoing an election. by definition, that's what you doing, nancy pelosi, the night that impeachment passed, she said well, we don't have our house manager so we can't send the to articles yet. which makes it sound like she's going to send them off the very next day. if you want to be senator, run for senate. she's the speaker of the house which is a wonderful role, i know democrats adore her, but this whole process is dragging the country down in a time where we don't by the way, the senators running for president, they don't want to be bogged down two weeks from now on the trial starts to keep them out of iowa and new hampshire.
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>> melissa: all right, harris, you have something for us, yes? >> melissa: i just got some news, but i'll have a follow-up conversation with you as soon as i say this. federal prosecutors and their stance on sentencing michael flynn, as you know, he was the president's first national security advisor, and now, the justice department is saying that he deserves up to six month in prison for lying to federal investigators. i will just remind everybody and myself too, he lied about the nature of this discussion on the heels of president trump selection, discussions with the russians. but we learned yesterday that a judge had said that they would be sentencing on january 28th for michael flynn. today, prosecutors who originally opposed any prison time are now saying yeah, go ahead and make that happen for michael flynn. what does this signify to you, buck? >> buck: it must be that they
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are either trying to make it seem like if they then ratchet it down there being fair-minded, that is possible here. it really just depends on how you want to see this whole process with michael flynn. i think general flynn should be pardoned by the present of the united states, i think this whole thing is a scam, it's a sham, it should never have happened. when you look at the whole thing that happened with mccain, who also lied as fbi director, is he going to be told that he needs to be in prison for six months because actually mattered? this didn't matter to anyone in the legal criminal sense. other that they set him up then being pretending to be his colleagues. maybe they will pretend that there's some new information, i just think it's because people are out there, like me, who is saying general fund should be pardoned, it's annoying, some of these career prosecutors. >> harris: these attorneys have pressed against them going forward with just they had, they wanted more evidence. >> buck: it's unsettling for people to find out, even if prosecutors had exculpatory, if you take a deal in our system, you took at the honor system,
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you don't get access to that exculpatory information after. you could be in us that, but if the pressure of take the deal or else you're going to federal persian for five years, perhaps what he faced, you can get evidence that would exonerate hi think it's wrong. >> harris: general michael flynn, prosecutor today single head, give them up to six months. we will see what happened. january 28th is the sentencing for him. we will be right back. nd no out of pocket costs. and my team can close your loan in as little as 30 days. one call can save you $2000 every year. i audiences give "1917" an "a". x0mijhl@kz[ gunshots ] "it's a thrill-ride behind enemy lines."
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now here's harris in "outnumbered overtime." >> harris: we will start with breaking news. the trump administration defending its actions in the middle east. officials have ramped up their rhetoric against the united states. "outnumbered overtime" this hour, i'm harris faulkner. tensions are flaring. deadly stampede and iran disrupted funeral services today for the top attorney in general. qassem soleimani. there are concerns here in the u.s. about a possible retaliation by the iranian regime. secretary of state mike pompeo says president trump's actions were not only justified. it was the right move. >> if you are looking for eminence, you need to look no further than the days that led up to the strike taken against soleimani. in the end, our iran policy is about protecting and defending the homeland and securing american lives. >> harris: iran's parliament has voted to label u.s. forces as "terrorists."
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