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ample information. we will see how the senators react to their side of the briefing. a very busy day on capitol hill and around the country. i am trace gallagher. thanks for joining us. here is bret baier. >> i am bret baier in washington and reporting begins with president trump saying iran appears to be standing down. after firing missiles at villa terry bases in iraq where u.s. troops are stationed. >> no americans were harmed. and last night's attack by the iranian regime. we suffered no casualties. all of our soldiers are safe and only minimal damage was sustained at our military bases. >> bret: the president says it's partly because of an early warning system. more on that in a moment. iran's supreme leader because
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last night's attack a slap in the face to america, but iran's foreign minister says to her on as finished its retaliation and doesn't want any more escalation or war. a live look at capitol hill. trump administration officials briefing senators about the intelligence behind the drone strike that killed a top iranian general. we will talk to lawmakers from both parties who were at an earlier briefing. we have fox team coverage from washington to the middle east. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the latest from the pentagon. trey yingst is live on the ground in baghdad. first of john roberts on the north on with the latest. >> good afternoon. president trump holding off on any military retaliation against iran for the missile strike last night. the fact that there were no u.s. casualties among the missiles that landed at the al-assad airbase and in erbil gives the president to try to ease tensions rather than escalate
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the confrontation. the president making it clear as he walked up to the podium surrounded by military brass and his national security team this morning that as long as he's president, iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. he also called on america's european allies along with trigger with russia and china. to pursue a more comprehensive deal and says he will push nato to get more involved. >> the time has come for the united kingdom, germany, france, russia and china to recognize this reality. we must all work together toward making a deal with iran that makes the world a safer and more peaceful place. today i'm going to ask nato to become much more involved in the middle east process. >> a short time ago, the nato secretary general revealing he had a phone call with president trump today.
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nato spokesman saying "the president asked the secretary general for nato to become more involved in the middle east. they agreed that nato could contribute more to regional stability and that fight against international terrorism." any further military action is on hold, the president is keeping up the campaign of maximum pressure against iran in saying this morning he will tighten the screws even further. listen. >> the united states will immediately impose additional punishing economic sanctions on the iranian regime. these powerful sanctions will remain until iran changes its behavior. >> at the same time, he is turning up the heat on iran, the president also reaching out to the iranian leadership today saying he would like to see a prosperous iran that lives up to its untapped economic potential. >> bret: john, what are you hearing about the communication between washington and tehran after the missile strike? >> often in the past the united states and iran have used
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the swiss as intermediaries to exchange messages between the two countries, since there are no official diplomatic relations. i am told last night after the missile attack, there was such an exchange. the u.s. reaching out to iran through the space. i'm told they must do is not one of diplomacy. it was a message from the united states to iran to deter further attacks. not sure exactly what the iranian side in response. >> bret: we are expected this hour to hear from secretaries pompeo and esper after the briefing on capitol hill. what we are hearing initially from house members, at least democrats publicly, is that they were unimpressed with the pitch about the imminence of any strikes that soleimani may have been planning. is there any concern about any of that from the administration from what you are hearing? >> i don't think so. adam kinzinger, republican congressman, said earlier today on fox that he believes the democrats are so invested in their position of opposition against virtually anything that
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the president does that they weren't really willing to objectively listen to the evidence that was presented on secretaries of state, defense, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and cia director. i think president trump is pretty comfortable with where he is right now. you look at the overall score sheet in terms of what has transpired over the last few days, the united states has taken out the second in command basically in iran, a man who was fomenting terrorism and instability across a large swath of territory in the middle east and in parts of central asia. iran fired a bunch of missiles in the desert, really didn't hit anything. at the moment, it appears to be a win for the united states. >> bret: john roberts live on the north lawn. thank you. we'll have lawmakers from both parties coming up. team fox coverage continues. trey yingst reporting live from baghdad. how are people in iraq responding to this?
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>> good afternoon. still a lot of uncertainty here in baghdad after those 15 ballistic missiles were fired from iranian territory towards the western iraqi military base that does house american troops. we heard today from the iraqi prime minister abdul mahdi who said he was informed by the iranians ahead of the strike and that he protested them saying it was a violation of iraqi sovereignty. similar language he used following the drone strike by the united states last week that took out the top iranian general qassem soleimani. you can hear american apache helicopters in the distance patrolling the egg dad's green zone. everyone here not sure with the coming days will bring. we have not heard from many members of the iraqi parliament to voted on sunday to push out american forces. iraq's prime minister said he agreed. there is more than 5,000 u.s. troops here helping the fight against isis. bret. >> bret: are we hearing anything from iranian-backed
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militias loyal to iran on the ground in iraq? >> there's been a few statements today by some top militia leaders in baghdad who will receive support and funding from the iranian regime calling on their supporters to be patient. it appears they are in line with the actions of the iranian regime and trying to de-escalate some of the tensions been rising throughout the week across the region. that's the big x factor and all of this, whether or not the iranian backed iraqi shia militias will participate in future acts of violence. earlier in the week, rockets were fired into the green zone towards the u.s. embassy. it's attacks like this that if they are successful could re-spark the tension and conflict between the united states and iran. >> bret: trey yingst live in baghdad. thanks. team coverage. jennifer griffin reporting live from the pentagon. >> the iranians are known to have about 2,000 ballistic missiles. a senior u.s. defense official
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tells fox iran launched 15 ballistic missiles. ten hit al-assad airbase. one hit erbil and four failed. we have satellite images showing the damages to al-assad airbase. one hanger appears to have been hit but as the president noted, the damage appears minimal. senior u.s. official says iranian officials warned iraq ahead of time about the pending missile strike because tehran did not want to kill iraqi forces. iraqi officials later warned their american military counterparts but by the time the iraqi warning came, the american military had already known for hours that iran was planning to launch the missile strike last night. they even knew the approximate time of the attack, one official told us. that morning was not a surprise to us, the u.s. official added. we already knew it was coming. how did the u.s. know? it intercepted chatter through cyberspace and knew when and where the missile strike would come. they just didn't know the exact magnitude of the strike, i'm
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told. according to a senior pentagon official source, the early warning the president referenced in his speech included layers of surveillance that included satellites that can detect the second the missile motor sparks. infrared images that can alert u.s. forces immediately. the flying time from iran to erbil is between three and 5 minutes on the flying type to a al-assad airbase. four missiles failed. they did not reach their target. some missiles are using decades-old ballistic missile technology. these were not the most state-of-the-art iranian missiles, according to the source. based on battle damage assessment, the pentagon did not believe cruise missiles were used. we got a message, controlling the shiite proxy forces, he said he believes the response from iran is over and that the incident and the response to soleimani's death is considered
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over, according to his forces. >> bret: that's a big question and trey mentioned it. the shieh militias, also hezbollah groups in syria and lebanon that are loyal to iran and maybe not as controlled after the death of soleimani by iran as far as command-and-control elements. those are the big question mark as we go forward. >> absolutely. i think within iraq proper, given the fact that its sovereignty was violated by this missile strike, i think there will be an effort to tamp down any response so as to not aggravate the u.s. military there. as we have seen in the past, the iranians can strike in many different places. there are soft targets all over the world and they are proxy groups all over the world, especially in lebanon and syria, as you mention. >> bret: jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. thank you. senator is giving -- getting a briefing on why president trump decided to kill the top iranian general. we want to lawmakers who just
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members of the house earlier this afternoon. lawmakers in congress reacting to president trump speech on iran. >> it was measured but firm. to the iranian people and the regime, he's giving you a chance to end this peacefully. he's giving you a chance for peace and prosperity. you should take it. >> we should look at it as a moment for de-escalation and for a diplomatic surge. >> bret: today's private briefings come as democratic lawmakers say they definitely want to see the evidence the administration used to justify the deadly strike on iran's general. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel reporting live from capitol hill with the latest. >> good afternoon. top players on president trump's national security team are here in a classified setting, briefing lawmakers. the breed first, secretary of state mike pompeo, secretary of defense mark esper, cia director gina haspel and chairman of the joint chiefs, general mark milley expected to give members of congress and the reason president trump ordered the drone strike to take out the
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top iranian general. leading house republicans as the national security team convinced him. >> the information that was shared was both compelling and decisive. i think it leaves little doubt in my mind and certainly should leave little doubt and any members mind that not only did the president make the right call but that this was a clear and present danger for american interests and american individuals. >> a senior house democrat says he's not sold by this briefing. >> i was... while, utterly unpersuaded about any evidence about the imminence of a threat that was new or compelling. i believe this administration is after-the-fact trying to piece together a rationale for its actions that was impulsive, reckless, and put this country's
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security at risk. >> considering the briefings are classified, these lawmakers must be careful how much they reveal. bret. >> bret: want to have we heard from other senators? >> one saying essentially the iranians crossed a redline and president trump responded and now they want to know the plan going forward. >> what i want to do is lean forward a little bit and take a look at the strategy overall now in the middle east, how we keep an eye on iran, how we stop them from attaining a nuclear weapon and how we stop them from participating in other terrorist organizations and asymmetrical warfare which they have been very good at in the past. >> ahead of this afternoon's briefing, chuck schumer said he has many questions. >> the president has promised to get the united states out of these forever wars in the middle east, with the arrow is headed in the wrong direction. the president, how many more ist
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going to be? how long will they remain abroad? what is their objective? >> the senate briefing is still ongoing. we will see of leader schumer and other democrats are convinced to anyway by the presentation. >> bret: mike emanuel, thanks. let's bring in a lawmaker who was at the briefing earlier. texas congressman mac thornberry, top republican on the armed services committee. the chairman there. congressman, i think there's a lot of concern on the democratic side about being unimpressed by what they have heard so far. you heard chuck schumer mention his concerns about the middle east. you know had this briefing. what do you say to the other democrats who sat through the same thing and are unimpressed? >> i would say to leader schumer that it's not just up to us. with national security, you have to pay attention to what the other guys are doing. in this case, soleimani on behalf of iran had killed
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hundreds of americans and thousands of others, and i'm convinced that the intelligence was strong and specific that other attacks were about to come. one of the things that worries me, especially in national security, is that you are getting more and more polarization where you can have facts presented but if you don't want to hear them, you just say well, that's not enough for me. >> bret: you are the ranking member of the house armed services committee. do you believe that this is going to continue to go down the road of other military action considering what the iranians did last night and what the president said today? >> i think it's likely that the iranians will try something el else. my guess is the something else will be something they can deny, like a cyber attack or using their proxies, as they have been doing for 20-plus years.
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there will be a testing period. there can be some treacherous waters ahead but it also may provide the breakthrough that we need to convince the iranians that they need to stop that stuff, give up their nuclear program, and become a quote-unquote normal nation in order to relieve the sanctions on so forth. we have seen on tv and emotional outpouring from the iranian people. don't forget just a few days ago, there were protests in the streets against the iranian regime both in iran and in iraq. there's an underlying discontent they are and the iranian regime has to worry about that. >> bret: are you concerned about the iraqi government and what it does in response to all this, especially vis-a-vis u.s. troops on the ground? >> i am concerned about it. but i think again, you have seen an emotional reaction from iraq,
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especially the shiite community. if you dig down a little deeper, i think it's much more nuanced than we have seen so far. it's in our interests but it's in the iraqis' interest that we continue to have a presence there to fight isis and provide some stability in the region. they know that. a little bit of time, careful diplomacy, et cetera will be required. >> bret: congressman mac thornberry on capitol hill. we appreciate your time. we will also hear from a democrat, vice chair of the house armed services committee, retired army aviator, marilyn congressman anthony brown. fair and balanced next. ok everyone!
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>> bret: briefing all senators on the situation with iran after they updated house members earlier this afternoon. we just heard from a republican congressman. joining me now, democratic congressman anthony brown of maryland, vice chairman of the house armed servicesommittee. retired colonel in the army reserve, served in iraq and earned a bronze star. thank you for being here. >> great to be with you. >> bret: you heard the briefing. what's your assessment after getting that about taking out qassem soleimani and what the administration is doing now? >> we really didn't get the facts that i was anticipating that would support the conclusion that there was an imminent threat. didn't hear anything about time, place, or the manner of the threat. while we heard it was based on credible evidence, we didn't really receive a whole lot of information about what that intelligence was. i think like many americans, members of congress are still asking the question why did we
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do it when we did it? why do the president ordered the assassination of an iranian general now? we all know he's a bad guy. he's done a lot of things in the past. was it an assassination based on retribution, what he has done or is it really based -- was it based on an imminent threat of what might occur? that's where i think a lot of us walked away scratching our heads, saying where's the beef? >> bret: for somebody at home looks at this and says this big terrorist who is funding and operating a lot of different groups throughout the middle east, causing harm to the u.s., he's taken out by a u.s. drone and the response is a bunch of missiles being fired at hangers in iraq, why is that a bad thing? >> general soleimani is no longer able to plan, coordinate, and orchestrate attacks, that's a good thing. the process by which we went about doing it, that's a big departure from what we have seen
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from presidents in the past. george bush, barack obama. a lot of this is, is it a new policy shift for the united states where we will assassinate political military leaders of nation-states in order to achieve our aims? if that's the case, we should be having a robust debate about that in the halls of congress. >> bret: congressman will hurd, moderate republican from texas, sometimes sides with your side of the aisle. he wrote an op-ed about this very thing and said this "after most of the decade as an undercover officer in the cia, i never thought i would see the iranian government be able to manipulative members of congress, democratic presidential candidates, and the western media. to my colleagues condemning this decision, we cannot forget that iran is the culprit, not the victim." your response to congressman heard. >> let me be clear. i'm not condemning the decision. if presented with a factual basis, a threat was imminent
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that general soleimani was engaged in planning and coordinating a threat that we had eyes and ears on, certainly a preemptive attack by taking him out of the equation would be appropriate. the concern is, i think many share it, the process, the decision-making process where the president made this decision was lacking. i think that the american people, members of congress, deserve that. if we are going to support these types of operations, then we should be able to have the information to evaluate whether it was a good choice or not. >> bret: congressman brown, i want to ask you one more quick question i appreciate you coming on. it's about impeachment. do you believe how speaker pelosi is going to send over to the senate the articles of impeachment and how do you respond to senator mcconnell's as the house that it was urgent, necessary to move quickly because of the threat to the election in 2020. now it's three weeks before the articles move over.
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>> i guess my response to senator mcconnell would be embraced the urgency of the matter and reach an agreement with the democrats in the senate for what looks like a fair trial. in order for us to send over the articles of impeachment, we need to know what the rules of the game are so to speak. are you going to have witnesses? if so, we send over managers of that kind of experience. if you are not going to have witnesses, you ought to tell the american people why not. we know people like john bolton are now ready to testify. he was unavailable to the house and he's making himself available to the senate. if you're not going to hear from him, at least tell the american people why not. >> bret: he was available. he just had to go down the road and fight the court battle in the house if you wanted to get john bolton. you are saying it's possible that if the rules don't change, mcconnell doesn't look like he's backing down, that speaker pelosi will just hold on to the articles of impeachment? >> it makes it difficult to send over the articles because with the articles go the managers and
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how do you know which managers to send if you don't know what the trial is going to look like? do you need managers that have experience interviewing witnesses or not? this is a trial. you have witnesses and documents and opening argument, closing argument. we need to send over people who are prepared to present that type of case. >> bret: congressman anthony brown, democrat from maryland. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> bret: a boeing jet crashes in iran just hours after the country targeted u.s. troops in iraq. now we are getting new details about why that plane they have gone down. asis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer, yeah i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin ♪ yeah that's all me. ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin ♪ that's my new plan. ♪ nothing is everything. keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months.
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to target american using proxy groups they believe provide them deniability in that risk still exists. what's changed is they understand that when this president says when an american is killed there's going to be response, it's not a talking point or tweet. it's real. because of the death of soleimani. >> do you see any role for congress legislative or otherwise? >> i think any help they need in terms of continuing to ensure that we pass spending that allows our military to have the capabilities to respond is important. consultations like this with congress are also very important in terms of the input we may have in the advice we may be able to give. we don't need aumf to react. this administration is not talking about invading iran or starting another goal for or a massive troop deployment or mass of an extended inside the territory of iran. it's talking about what it will
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do if we are attacked. it's called self-defense and every president is authorized by the constitution, not just authorized but required, to protect the united states and our men and women that we deployed abroad. he is particularly compelled to do so when the men and women who we are protecting are deployed in iraq under a congressional authorization. troops in iraq are there under a congressional authorization it was passed that allows them and authorizes for them to be there. we never need congressional authority in this country to act in the defense of our troops. that's what this administration has done. they've been very clear they don't seek to start a war. if there is military action, it will be in response to iranian or proxy actions. >> reporter: what do you think of your democratic colleagues, regardless of what happened over the last 24, 48 hours. they say they don't have evidence.
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>> i don't know where they are looking. it's pretty apparent with the strategy is. iran needs to abandon their nuclear weapons ambitions and stop sponsoring terrorist groups and stop developing ballistic long-range missiles. if it does those three things -- >> reporter: how do you get there? >> it's one of the reasons why we've relied on economic pressure. you saw the president outlined today that halted other nations, signatories of the jcpoa would join in that effort. the strike alone points to why any future iran deal must include ballistic missiles and the sponsorship of terrorism. that's the strategy. we want iran to act like a normal country. >> bret: senator marco rubio discussing some of the briefing. we are waiting on secretaries pompeo and esper, secretaries of state and defense, to come out and brief as well. overseas now, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says if iran or anybody else decides to attack this country, israel will respond with a "crushing blow." benjamin hall reporting live
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from iman, jordan. >> there's been wide spread praise for the de-escalation across the region as well as criticism and condemnation of iran's attack yesterday and leading that voice in support of president trump as you point out, benjamin netanyahu fully behind the president and his actions. take a listen to what he said earlier. >> president trump should be congratulated for acting swiftly, boldly, and resolutely against this terrorist. [applause] for acting against this terrorist who was the architect and driver of iran's campaign of carnage and terror. throughout the middle east and throughout the world.
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>> turkish president rich of erdogan and also russian president putin also met today to open a new pipeline and they said they would happily act as intermediaries. they went on to say "a further use of force would lead to a new cycle of instability that would damage everyone's interest." the british government standing firmly behind the u.s. both in the condemnation of the attacks yesterday as well as the strike against qassem soleimani. same british troops had been on the sprawling al-assad airbase and britain refused to rule out the strike on iran same british helicopters and warships had been placed on standby in the gulf. the u.k. reiterating america's right to defend itself. iraqis have been protesting the iranian strike, calling for the government to push back against iranian influence. many see iraq now is the battleground between iran and the u.s. they fear getting caught in the middle.
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the french foreign minister speaking out, saying he was rather upset the u.s. had not informed or consulted them earlier on the soleimani attack. they said this is america's interest only. >> bret: benjamin, we mentioned earlier iran's defense minister speaking out about the attack. >> yeah, that's right. across iran, there has been praise and celebration for this attack that there was a real victory, strike at the heart of american safety so to speak. here's the defense minister taking credit for yesterday's attack. >> translator: last night, domestic short-range missiles were used. for the first time since world war ii, an important american base which they said they had spent a lot of money on, was hit. >> in the streets, iranians were waving iranian flags, thrilled about the attack. they have been calling for this
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ever since qassem soleimani had been hit. it's being portrayed as a great victory on a rainy and error as well. they have been baying for blood for some time. they needed revenge. many people seeing the attack on the outside air best yesterday as the way of the regime saving face. the people seem to be responding positively. >> bret: benjamin hall in him on jordan. thank you. still waiting for secretaries pompeo and esper to brief report is on capitol hill. when that happens, will bring it to you live. this. felite story? my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me. >> tech: hi, i'm adrian. >> man: thanks for coming. ...with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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>> bret, good afternoon. we have heard at least one explosion off to my left in baghdad's green zone. sirens near the u.s. embassy went off. reporting incoming, incoming, indicating either a rocket or mortar was triggering the sirens around the embassy area. we have not been able to confirm what triggered the sirens but there are concerns this evening that those iranian backed iraqi militia groups operating in and around baghdad could derail any of the peace efforts currently taking place or conversations taking place between the iranians and the americans, as we talked about earlier this hour on "fox news reporting," there were some intermediaries, including the swiss trying to deliver messages on behalf of the trump administration to the iranians. anything that happens today in baghdad or in the green zone could derail those efforts but what we are hearing right now, we've heard at least one exposure in baghdad's green zone and sirens around the u.s. embassy going off, saying incoming, incoming, indicating there is some sort of projectile
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fired in the area. bret. >> bret: trey yingst live in baghdad. stay safe. we will head back for any breaking news. looking at capitol hill, waiting to hear from secretary of state mike pompeo and defense secretary mark esper after they and other top officials brief lawmakers on the iran intelligence. speaker of the house nancy pelosi putting out a statement moments ago saying "a war powers resolution will be voted on in the house tomorrow." war powers resolution she says to "limit the president's military actions regarding iran and this legislation is going to the rules committee" she says it will be voted on tomorrow in the house. state department correspondent rich edson reporting live about the back-and-forth and the secretary, what he is saying. rich. >> good afternoon, bret.
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state department officials have been defending the friday night attack that killed general customs of the money. senior state department official says part of the briefing on capitol hill by the secretary of state and senior defense officials will be to stress the united states has restored military deterrence as part of that strike and also that the united states will continue its maximum pressure campaign. you heard that from the president earlier today where he said immediately the united states would be putting more sanctions on against the iranian regime. senior state department official tells us the plan for a potential rollout for sanctions tomorrow, they are still aiming for tomorrow. it could be pushed until later in the week. as the administration's briefing senators on all of this, there's been criticism from democrats. you just heard from house speaker nancy pelosi pushing back on the war powers act. you've also got a number of democrats who are saying that the administration kept them in congress and the dark as part of
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ththis. looking to de-escalate the situation between the united states and iran. >> the president has an opportunity to seek a coalition of allies. great britain, france, germany, just to mention a few, that could lead for a diplomatic surge to get iran back to the negotiating table should deal with our issues with iran. >> and his remarks earlier today, the president also push for the countries that remain in the iran nuclear deal to scrap it and get out of it. the united states is the only country to sign that deal and then get out of it. we asked the u.k. government about it. britain is still in it. the response from them is that the prime minister boris johnson statement where he says "the jcpoa remains the best way of preventing nuclear proliferation in iran and encouraging. iranians not to develop a nuclear weapon. we remain in close contact with our european partners and the u.s. on this issue."
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secretary pompeo is scheduled to meet with u.k. foreign secretary here at the state department in a short while. bret. >> bret: rich edson live outside the state department. thanks. america's allies in the middle east keeping a close eye on the situation between the u.s. and iran. who will speak to a former deputy national security advisor who says the big question is would president trump use military force to protect our partners? next. as soon as the homeowners arrive, we'll inform them that liberty mutual customizes home insurance, so they'll only pay for what they need. your turn to keep watch, limu. wake me up if you see anything. [ snoring ] [ loud squawking and siren blaring ] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ thlook at all this ink no more bit comes with.es.
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that does not mean that we have to use it. that's bring in megan o'sulliv o'sullivan. she is the author of how the new energy abundance upends global politics and strengthens america's power. she is also a professor at harvard's kennedy school. thanks for being here. your thoughts on this dragon what it tells us. was this a fireworks display? saving face move by iran? is this it? >> well, i think that we can't possibly know the answer to the question. at the moment, the iranian government has suggested that it has taken proportionate action and it has avenge the killing of soleimani. there are a couple of things that we should keep in mind. one is, this might be all received from an official government iranian response. that doesn't rule out that we could see multiple kinds of
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attacks from cyber to attacks on naval vessels in the gulf that wouldn't be directly attributable to iran but to its proxy forces. that might be what we're seeing tonight. i think the strike in the killing of soleimani did reestablish deterrence vis-a-vis iran but with a very specific caveat. it made that clear statement and case to iranians that president trump will use overwhelming force if american lives are at risk. there are still big open questions about whether or not the united states will use military force to protect other kinds of interests that don't have all the potential loss of american lives. there is a wide array of targets that would fall into that category. >> to the subject of your book, we are a country are in a much different decision now because of our energy independence that we would have been a few years ago. >> it is very true that the
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united states is in a fundamentally different position and listens that it is recording very little of the oil it consumes. this is in major contrast to a dozen years ago when the u.s. was importing two-thirds of what i consumed. we still import some small amounts of oil from the middle east. but we don't have to. we could substitute for that oil quickly. there's also a big caveat to this. if that is the fact that the united states is part of one singular global oil market. we are connected to that market. if something really disruptive happens in iran or saudi arabia and a big chunk of global production goes off-line, that's going to increase the global price of oil. that's actually the price of oil that americans pay to fill up their cars with gasoline. we are still actually vulnerab vulnerable. >> people are very hopeful that
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this potentially could lead to iran sitting at the table again and possibly negotiating on a bigger reconfigured iran nuclear deal. as that tilting at windmills? you think it's possible? >> i'm hopeful that it is possible. i thought the president's speech this morning while still being very firm against iran, had enough places where he signaled that he ultimately saw this being resolved through negotiations through another deal with iran. he made some useful references to the need to have this be a deal that would be good for iranians and their prosperity. how do you think a lot depends on what happens in the coming days. and if others can commence both sides to come to the table, there are some historical residence where iran had suffered a major blow and suddenly come to the table. >> neil: megan o'sullivan, we
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thank you for your time. a lot of news to cover today. a lot of news to come. and the markets are closing on wall and broad. for the impact on businesses around the world, you know who has it. speech would he want with neil cavuto next. >> president trump: iran appears to be standing down which is a good thing for all parties concerned and a very good thing for the world. >> neil: and for that markets, shaken but not start too much. president trump says that iran appears to be standing down after firing off 15 missiles. that had stocks moving up. the relief part of that, because when they first got wind of th that, dow futures were down more than 400 points. it turns out, much ado about nothing. welcome, everybody. i'm happy to have you. i'm neil cavuto. lawmakers are being
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