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she is up at like four in the morning. maybe they can find some work here. we sort it out. we can help you, harry. ♪ >> greg: hi. i'm greg with katie, geraldo, jones, and martha maccallum. it's "the five." so, as the postgame analysis continues, we realize that for trump's critics, peace means defeat. i mean, if you listen to the media right now, it's like we killed elvis. >> when princess diana died, for example, there was a huge emotional outpouring. it turns out that this generally is a beloved hero of the
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iranian -- would get pictures up now. these enormous crowds coming out. there is no american emotion in this case, but there's a lot of emotion on the other side. >> greg: i'm almost impressed by his stupidity. you've been around. they will shout death to america over anything, including one hbo cancels. i guess we better not kill any bad guys then. with that logic, we should have stayed out of world war ii and freed everyone from death row. but in the media's world, trump is hitler. >> what you are describing feels like the sort of unified national outpouring that is reserved for a small number of figures for anyone. i mean, a beloved president. >> greg: what a --
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remember when they bashed trump for being mean to ms-13? now, he's got "the view" applauding white racists, because they agree with "the view." >> remember richard spencer? >> lunatic. >> the white nationalist group? not anymore. he tweeted last night, "i deeply regret voting for and promoting donald trump in 2016." >> oh, my gosh. >> wow. [applause] >> that's interesting. >> greg: she almost said that's good news and she caught herself. >> i spoke to secretary general yesterday and we had a great conversation. he was very, i think he was actually excited. and actually had a name.
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nato, right, and then you have me, middle east. i said, what a beautiful name. i'm good at names. >> greg: we don't deserve him. meanwhile, mayor pete says that maybe we should share the blame, even though it was iran who did the shooting. trump once again boils his critics, not just by being right, but letting them be so wrong. check out the cnn interview. >> the american government, the american president, made a serious miscalculation. they made a serious mistake by assassinating, by taking this terrorist action against qasem soleimani, and i'm sure that they regret what they've done. >> greg: does that lady look familiar to you? >> you said in the press conference the other day, you said the other day, that if
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there was an attack on this embassy, you would attack the hostages. do you mean that? >> yes, we mean it. >> would you personally lift up a gun, put it to the head of one of these people and kill them? >> yes. when i see it killing my sisters and brothers in the streets, of course. oppression and tyranny must be destroyed. >> greg: you know, i'm thinking, maybe don't get an opinion on america for someone who threatened to kill american hostages. but they've got to find one person outside their own news room. that's hard, because that one person, qasem soleimani, is de dead. so, martha, i want to go to too about the plane. we are learning that it was probably or likely shot down by iran. pete trudeau, says that it is tit-for-tat of military powers, essentially spreading the blame. >> martha: i mean, the
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suggestion that there is blame for the 176 individuals who perished in this plane crash, i think is really a remarkable, remarkable statement on behalf of someone who is running for president of the united states, do not understand that this missile, from what we are learning, was sent out by iranians. it was russian-made. it was a name in their own effort to retaliate, which they said they wanted to do. but do not go a step further back to talk about the killing of american contractors. to talk about the attempted overrun of the u.s. embassy, sovereign territory in iraq, that was built by the united states. i just think it's an irresponsible statement by a presidential candidate. >> greg: yet, i don't think it helped him. lawrence, what do you make of this? >> yeah, i think it's a complicated matter, but i think there are two camps. look, i went in there yesterday to talk to the general and the briefer's about not the attacks come about authorization. one that you think you need to
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come back to congress to declare war? he agrees with the killing of soleimani. as a matter of a fact, if you don't believe it, go back to the documents that congress signed back in 2002, that gave the president the call to make this happen. he has 48 hours to notify congress. we don't even have to debate this. what he is saying as that there have been moments where the intelligence community is misled. we just saw reports on afghanistan. we need to know everything before we decide to go to war. congress does have the right to do this. >> martha: the resolution, is really nonbinding. it's more of a statement that the president is going to be beholden to. but i want to go to the media. they are making this false moral
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equivalency between the iranian regime and president donald trump, a.k.a., america and what we are doing to protect americans in the middle east. for him to say that we have just as much responsibility for this plane shoot down as the iranians did, completely eliminates any kind of responsibility for that. they are hiding the black boxes. they don't want us to find out what happened, and also, it's really interesting to see the media constantly say that the president is a bigot, the president is anti-gay, the president does this. now, they are openly defending people like soleimani. they stone women, they hang and justify it just the other day. they kill innocent protesters in the streets for daring to speak out and not show up to soleimani's funeral. you can't just be against this type of behavior when you think it's coming from president trump and then turn around and defend the iranian regime.
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>> greg: we've run out of time. [laughter] >> this is a stupid war. >> greg: it's not a war. >> the president's friends have had the guts to tell him. killing soleimani was a terrible idea. brilliantly executed. why are we -- let me finish. why are we picking this fight? for what? we assassinated him. for what? why did we do that? why did we do that? listen, i've got news for you, they say he killed 600 americans, the last time i counted, there were 600,000 iraqis who had been killed. i'm sick of this war. >> greg: me too.
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>> and now we are picking a fight with the other people, the wrong -- >> greg: you are conflating two things. i agree with you about the iraq war. >> geraldo: at what point do we say enough already? >> greg: i agree. i agree with you on that. but this is different. this is not about war. you are in a prison of two ideas. no or no war. this was an executive action. >> geraldo: we have already retaliated. this started when the militia killed an american contractor and wounded several others. >> martha: an attack on the american embassy. >> geraldo: you are missing a key thing that happened. they killed the american contractor, wounded the others. we have a massive retaliation against the same militia in syria and in iraq.
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we killed 25 iraqis. they killed the contractor. we killed 25 iraqis. then they had the demonstration and the uprising, the siege of the embassy. this was action, reaction. >> martha: we took out the head of the snake of the largest terrorist organization in the world. >> greg: no, you're right. but that's the middle east right now. you killed somebody bad. a new one comes along, but we killed someone bad. let's go. i'm with you. i'm with you. all right, coming up next, trump heading to our rally tonight with tons of momentum while 2020 democrats are divided as ever. that's next. ♪ i don't keep track of regrets. and i don't add up the years. but what i do count on is boost high protein. and now, introducing new boost mobility with collagen for joint health.
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♪ >> greg: the battle for 2020, heating up president trump is making his way to a rally in toledo. the president, about to speak to another pack crowd, reflecting his -- his democratic rivals had for a big divide. the president is speaking later tonight. you can watch it on fox news. earlier, the president defended the killing of the irani in general. >> we caught a total monster. we took him out. that should have happened a long time ago. we did it because they were looking to blow up our embassy.
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>> geraldo: the statement is not quite clear there, katie. what he is talking about the demonstrators. a late siege a couple of days before. he is not saying that there is going to be another attack on the embassy. so what do you think we win in iran's conflict? >> katie: first of all, it's not iran. we are talking about iraq. people like soleimani, operating in a sovereign country. partiepresident trump believes t the american contractor is worth just as much if not more than someone like soleimani, who has spent decades and decades planning attacks against americans. as soon as he landed at the airport, he got in the car with another terrorist, who was sentenced to death. let me finish my point, for the bombing against the american embassy in kuwait.
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they've been running around the middle east because in several wars all over the country. what the united states has gained from this is that -- the president is following his own doctrine, which is take out terrorists wherever they may be taking out attacks against americans, whether it is the head of isis, whether it is soleimani. and we are going to move forwa forward. >> geraldo: i thought the president's doctrine was not to get us involved, martha, in the foreign entanglement. >> martha: let me explain the way i see the president's doctrine. i think it's america first, based on what he established in his campaign. he said that that was his priority. he has built up our defense capabilities paired he wants to intact dell might protect american interest
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abroad'. are you negating the fact that this action was taken because there were eminent attacks against american interests. >> geraldo: i have been around a long time. i'm in my 50th year. you tell me what this eminence is for an attack like this. >> lawrence: here's the deal. i don't need to. you already killed 600 soldiers, 17%. why did we decide to do a counterterrorism strike? you are saying that the president has declared war after the president said, look. he also said that i did this to prevent a war, not to start a
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war. the president has been consistent. there is a difference between war and out counterterrorism strike. >> geraldo: he was on our side two months ago in fighting isis, in fighting al qaeda. he was with us to help defeat isis. and now -- >> martha: we were to stalin during world war ii, right? sometimes, you work with people who have other interests at heart, because at that time, it works with what you're looking for. there are hundreds of people in iran who feel like he has oppressed them as a people. women want to work up and down the street without covering their faces. 1500 protesters who were slaughtered in the street. their bodies, left to rot in the streets. they believe that he was responsible for this crackdown on their desire for freedom. why don't they count? >> geraldo: what about the
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funeral of this man. did you see those crowds, greg? >> greg: the fact that those crowds, that's normal for iran. that always happens. i want to talk to you about something a little bit bigger. you like donald trump. why do you like him? is a game changer. he is a once in a central kin to century kind of leader. he's a walking game changer by making decisions that other people don't. he doesn't see this is war. he saw this as a shaking the box, which it did. there may be out of this, being on the brink of war looks exactly like being on the brink of peace. why did iran go out of its way to say, we are good? we are good. they know -- >> geraldo: is this the new normal? we are going to assassinate people? >> lawrence: this is not the new normal. the president is not in the middle of a war right now. it was a counterterrorism stri
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strike. >> katie: i think you should take what he says when he spoke at the white house to heart. he said, i don't want war with iran. when iran retaliated, they shot missiles from iran into iraq. we have not shot missiles back into iraq, which proves that the president -- >> geraldo: i know it's going to happen now. people are going to say, okay, where's the proof? is not going to be able to -- senator mike lee absolutely made my point. >> martha: that's not what he said. he said i am with the president with this decision to strike soleimani. he was very offended at the way the bree first came in there. there was no explanation.
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♪ >> martha: a lot of news coming from capital field. congress is getting ready to work on the war powers resolution to limit president trump on iran. it is expected to pass along party lines. the big story is impeachment and what nancy pelosi is going to do. the cracks are beginning to show in the speaker's strategy. she has been holding off on sending articles to the senate. she is holding firm. >> i will send them over when i'm ready. that will probably be soon. we want to see what they are willing to do and the manner in which they will do it. but we will not let them say,
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all this is just like clinton. it's not. documentation, witnesses, facts, that's what they are afraid of. >> martha: so what are you going to do? katie. the expectation is next week, but she's holding her cards pretty close. >> katie: i think that she knows that this has been a complete and total disaster for democrats. i will give her credit in saying that she didn't want this to happen. she said that impeachment had to be bipartisan. she got roped into it. she completely lost control of her caucus. now, people are saying, we want you to push your articles over to the senate. democrats are getting very frustrated because she done mike they feel like she is undermining the institution.
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>> martha: the narratives get pretty tangled up here, because i remember interviewing eric, the congressman from california. he said, we can't wait for a legal decision on john bolton. we know that president trump is going to do this again. we can't wait. then, suddenly, it was like they hit the brakes, geraldo, and now there's all kinds of time for this to fester. which is it? >> geraldo: i think that this is a lame, pathetic exercise, political exercise. they have to get this over with. did they realize that they are distracting the commander and chief of the united states on a phone call he made to a ukrainian president? i mean, i'm willing to concede everything. it was tacky, he should not have said it. it was sloppy. no crime.
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get this thing over with. it was a mistake to begin with. to persist in torturing this man and distracting the entire country for nothing, you know, i like nancy pelosi. i hate her politics but i love her spirit. she's got spunk. but she's made the point. she has showed that she's displeased. get it over with. it's not going to be, you know he's going to be acquitted. it's been a huge distraction and i think it's an embarrassment. >> martha: i look ahead to this election year and you have to wonder if this is something that is going to resonate with people long-term. are people going to walk in november and wonder? how much does it really matter? >> lawrence: welcome of the people that i talk to on a daily basis, especially who are voting for the president, this was about the election.
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they promised health care. they didn't get that done. they promised immigration and protecting the dreamers. they didn't get that done. they said they were going to repeal the president's tax bill. they didn't get that done. they needed something for the base. nancy pelosi tried to handle this like that was -- instead of fighting it out in the court system, she decided to say, senate, you've got to do it now, instead of doing it in her own chamber. >> martha: the drama that existed during the nixon impeachment. there is no surprise. there is no like where is this going? unless of course they get john bolton. >> greg: how do you regain momentum? it's like you have a high school band. one gets a girlfriend. the other ends up working at his dad's figure.
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they can't get the band back together. it's over. remember the urgency to this? now, it's not so urgent. this is like a drunk who fell off the pier. it's dead in the water. it's floating. [laughter] >> martha: this is not dead in the water. prince harry and duchess, meghan markle break from the royal family. what comes next? after this. ♪ if you have moderate to severe psoriasis,
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the floor. [laughter] >> martha: i mean, first of all, the royals work something like 92 days a year, maybe 100 0 days a year, so they may have to work closer to what normal people work. that's number one. secondly, he is sixth in line for the throne. if they sort of looked out of the public eye and did their own thing, nobody would really ever notice that they were gone. the queen said, don't make a public announcement. this is my only request to you. don't make a big deal about it. let's talk about it. let's work something out. they want to make a big statement. they wanted to be dramatic. they want to exit the royal family. it's a stiff upper lip, versus everything is about americanism. >> greg: clearly you missed the whole story. andrew hit on her.
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you know what kills me? you know they have got to be ticked off, because they paid for that fairy tale wedding. this is like the bride's parents finding the groom in the closet with the maid of honor. it's true. they must be angry. they are not moving into a studio apartment where you've got to keep the stove on so the dell might it won't freeze. >> geraldo: i think they endured a lot, though. she's really gotten all kinds of negative vibes from the tabloi tabloids. [laughter] quick story, afghanistan, worst place on earth. right after harry left, he put
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himself and harm's way. he's really a great guy. >> greg: it's all on her. she's a palace wrecker. >> katie: palace wrecker? like it. >> lawrence: they decided to get together and she gets the blame because she's an american. >> martha: i'm just hoping he doesn't wake up two years from now and say wait a minute, i left my entire life behind. >> lawrence: this is a romeo and juliet story. i like it. [laughter] you are like the grinch who stole christmas. >> martha: i mean, she knew what she was getting into. they don't have a ton of responsibility. he's sixth and line. i mean, just hang back.
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live your own life. get out of the limelight. does anyone ever go, hey, where's prince edward? how come we never hear from him? he calls his brother. they do their own thing. they do their charitable events, but they do their own life. it's absolutely possible for these two to do the same. they obviously want to make a big stink and make a big drama. >> greg: think about all the girls who wanted to be her, wanted that life and she's throwing it all away. you are a hopeless romantic, lawrence. >> lawrence: i do think they should have notified her. >> katie: they have moved meghan markle and harry away from the picture. >> geraldo: what's amazing is how the american public adores these people, and this couple
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specifically. i don't agree with you, katie. i think people love her and they love the fragility of her. she's the first one to show humanity. she's just like princess diana, harry's mother. she could not be controlled, wanted to have a life. >> katie: but why would you marry into the royal family? >> greg: let's adopt them. >> lawrence: they can set up their relationship they where they want to set it up. i think if he's on board, he is in agreement with this. >> greg: but now he's in a fight with his brother. speaker of the black man and the puerto rican are defending the royal family. [laughter] 's before moving onto more important news, we do have some breaking news on capital power. the house is voting to limit power. ♪ great riches will find you when liberty mutual
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never send a period at the end of a text message. consider "reply all." moderate your use of emojis and exclamation points. katie, i will go straight to you. >> katie: i think this person is wrong. [laughs] >> lawrence: i don't answer the phone alyssa goes to voice mail. >> katie: there so much spam going on. i prefer to text in the same way that you write. if you try a text with shortened versions. i am against all of these rules but they put up. i think they are wrong. >> geraldo: i never listen to voice messages. my phone is not set up for voice mails. when you get voice mails as many
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times as i have and your ex is calling you, you can't forward the voice message. it goes on for 10 minutes. anyway -- >> greg: they love the paychecks. >> lawrence: when you get emails, do you reply all? >> martha: i try to be very careful about reply all. you are all talking about one thing. sometimes my husband will hit reply all and my kids will be on it. he's on here. you have to be careful with that. also, voice mails are tricky, because i feel like someone says oh, i left you a voice mail. i'm like, really? someone sends me long loving voice mails. i love her voice mails. >> lawrence: what about you, greg? >> greg: the only voice mails
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i get are from asia. [laughter] i'm not kidding. the only people that call me on my phone are from asia or from marriott rewards. or saying my car insurance is up. i don't have car insurance. >> lawrence: there are a lot of benefits for having a beard. 75% of men sayin say that havina beard makes them feel more confident. i look like a kid when i don't have facial hair. does your husband have a beard? >> martha: he does not. >> katie: i'm not opposed to beards as long as you keep them clean. i read a study about how men's beards are dirtier than dogs. >> lawrence: i watch it every single day. >> martha: my kids are in college. they like to wear beards.
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but you have to trim it and take care of it. they think the scruffy thing is cool, but i'm not convinced. >> greg: i think beards are great for award shows, especially if your mother is still alive, but it's also sexist. men can cover up a weak chin with the beard, but women can do that unless you are in the carnival. we've come a long way, we still haven't, long enough for women to have beards at the office. >> lawrence: the nfl's first emotional support dog. zoe helps the team deal with stress, depression, and anxiety. >> martha: they are doing something right. >> lawrence: yet, but i think this is a little sensitive. >> greg: i've got to tell you, number one, this idea of therapy dogs is being abused and abused and abused. if nfl players need therapy
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dogs, then our country is lost. we are losing the ability to allow people to overcome challenges on their own. we are coddling our kids. we are saying, oh, my gosh, your feelings, your feelings. here's a puppy who doesn't make anybody's lives better. >> martha: i kind of disagree. i think that dogs, you know, in places like hospitals cheer everyone up. maybe it's nice to just be like -- >> greg: that's what the paycheck is for. look at your pay stub. go oh, my gosh, i made $4 million a game. >> katie: all i know is that when i walk my dog on the street, everybody smiles at him. of all the things you can do, it's better to pet a dog than do drugs or something. >> greg: be specific on the
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kate: he's going to die on there. >> greg: he's going to die on there. how dare you, people! geraldo? geraldo: my 50th year in the news business. in recognition of that, fox graciously is giving me for our documentaries. the corresponding years, the first one is about my biggest story about the willowbrook institutions for the population we've been described as mentally retarded, you don't say that anymore, now you call them differently disabled developmentally disabled. i talk about it. unannounced and unexpected by the school administration, we toured business number six.
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>> no one has gone in and filmed the actual conditions of a. >> filming was so raw. >> there is a ground spell of outrage to put that on the air. it was like an explosion. >> i am geraldo. 50 years. part of fox news access, only on fox nation. >> geraldo: it starts on -- >> greg: i wish they did a special on your changing hair. >> katie: it is national law enforcement depreciation debris at law officers put their lives in the line every day for their communities. i want to put out a shut shout out for my friend matthew thomas.
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he works in arizona. he deals with a lot of bad guys and i am appreciated of his work all over the years. that is his boss. so thank you to him for his service over his career. national law enforcement appreciation day as a way to think offices across the country for the daily sacrifices they make for the community they serve and protect. >> greg: it should be a day that is every day. i appreciate them whenever i pulled over. >> lawrence: you are such a wise ass that nobody knows you are being sincere. >> greg: my wife says that to me every single day. i just keep quiet from now on, martha. >> martha: mine is not law enforcement or groundbreaking reporting, but mine is about a very dear story. just watch this. this is hugo minnesota.
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went to go get the mail and this deer wanted to keep petting him, hung out with a family in the driveway for a while. i'm just trying to -- this scares me for the deer. it's like when squirrels don't run away. maybe he was domesticated or somebody had him and they let him go. dear should want to >> don't feed the animals give everybody. >> martha: it's cute and everything but i think is going be defenseless. >> lawrence: eating french fries out of the car. >> greg: anyway, that was a fun story. >> lawrence: how much do you love taco bell? not as much is this guy who was craving the bell so badly that he broke into one of georgia's taco bells on christmas morning.
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look at this guy. no cook? no problem. the burrito band that used at the restaurant's deep fryer and made himself an off menu speci special. what happens after you eat a whole bunch of taco bell? >> greg: i'm afraid. >> lawrence: you need to take a nap. take a nap for a couple of hours after his meal. he stayed in for a little bit. when he leaves, he takes the computer, tablet. but he cleaned up, though. >> katie: did they arrest him? >> lawrence: they still have not found him. >> greg: if you knew how to work the instruments... >> lawrence: he knew where everything was. he knew how to work -- >> greg: certainly a shell of a man. maybe he'll be grounded! i'm running out of things to say. okay. that's probably a good thinker
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