january 17th, 2020. as always "the story" continues see you back here monday night. we start the impeachment week, folks. hang in there with us. have a good weekend. we will see you then. ♪s. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." not what they call a machine geerl election. not a contest to determine which branch of the establishment gets a turn at the wheel. this isn't a clinton dole 96 kind of race where you are pretty sure that no matter who wins things aren't going to change very much. this year, the one thing you can be certain of is that things can be very different when it's over. the issues at stake are bigger than just the economy or even our foreign policy commitment. 2020 is about the broadest possible question. what kind of country should we have? who should live here? what will america look like 50 years from now? there are a lot of possible

answers to those questions, but leading democrats appear to have settled on their position. america, they are telling us, should be a lot more like california. listen to former new york mayor michael bloomberg explain his vision for the country he is hoping to lead. >> i think that california can serve as a great example for the rest of this country. you have led the way on climate change, on fighting gun violence and on criminal justice. and you have as importantly welcomed immigrants with open arms. california is part of this country that is something the rest of the country looks up to. >> tucker: so michael bloomberg graduated from high school almost 60 years ago. and at that time a lot of what he just said was true. the rest of the country really did look up to california. millions of americans moved to california in search of a better life. it had the nation's best public schools and world class universities that essential liver were free. graduates from those universities created silicon valley among other things the birthplace of the

digital age. compared to the rest of america, poverty in california then was low and opportunity was virtually unlimited. the people who moved here in 160 when bloomberg graduated high school found their american dream. but things have changed. now the children and grandchildren of those people are fleeing california. we spent the last week here in los angeles for the show. in some ways it's still a very beautiful place. the western parts of the city are some of the richest neighborhoods in the world. you would want to live there. they are immaculate. huge swaths of modern los angeles shock the conscious of anyone who drives by. filth and disorder clusters of addicts. block after block. this is footage our producer shot yesterday. it has a quarter of this country's homeless. adjusted for the cost of living. california has the highest poverty rate of any state in america. nearly a quarter of its people are poor. why? there are a lot of reasons here are some. the state has the most

expensive housing in the continental united states. most expensive gasoline thanks to the taxes. the free world class universities those are long gone. the university of california system has some of the highest in state tuition rates in the country. as we chronicled last week in our series america dystopia. no city more accurately represents the implosion of california than san francisco. >> get the [bleep] out of here. [bleep], [bleep] >> i have been here 42 years [bleep] >> i fear for my safety. >> you never know what's coming around the country. >> film me you mother [bleep] >> i live a block away. [bleep] you. >> this city is messed up. it's very messed up. >> i'm not forcing them to move but i talk to him and encourage him to move. >> do you think you will be homeless the rest of your life? >> yeah. >> you push them out and then what stays?

>> tucker: it's messed up. really messed up. that's right. so findin find people leaving california decades. now the flow has reversed. every year the number of people leaving california for other places exceeds the number of people moving in by more than 100,000. if it weren't for the constant stream of immigrants from abroad, california's population would be falling and fast. the middle class utopia of old has evaporated. the state is in crisis. that's obvious to everyone who lives here, certainly. but not to the people who run california instead of fixing problems forced people to leave spent years on policies frivolous and counter productive. banning plastic straws. requiring background checks to buy shotgun sales. transmission of hiv. huh? governor gavin newsom's most recent budget proposes 80 million in additional funding to provide free

healthcare for illegal immigrant seniors. who wants that? this is the state that democrats are calling the model for america. the state they want your state to be more like at least you know what the election is about. the california radio host. he joins us tonight. ethan, thanks so much for coming on. >> it's great to be back in the state where i'm from. it's beautiful. rich areas are nicer than ever. but, in the last four nights i have had four dinners and every person has said i love california and i'm preparing to leave because it's falling apart. how can this be a model that democrats point to? >> well, it's still the fifth biggest economy in the entire world. we have a strong economic engine. we have hollywood, we have silicon valley. we grow a third of the food for the entire united states. there are huge opportunities. one out of seven jobs created during the trump tenure were actually created here in california even though we are only one-eighth the population. a lot still happening here. we have a brand new governor who is finally, finally

taking bold action on the two biggest issues that everything relates back to that you are talking about. housing and homelessness. and he is finally going to tyke a strong lead on that. >> tucker: you know, he said he was going to take a strong lead on it when he was the mayor of san francisco. he did absolutely nothing and in fact it got even worse. that's been true of the past five mayors of san francisco. this is a one-party state. the state senate has been controlled by democrats for 50 years. there hasn't been a republican mayor of san francisco in 56 years. so this is a democratic problem. and it's getting worse, not better. i don't know why nationally democrats aren't ashamed of it. >> well, here's the issue. so while you are right in terms of data points we have had republican governors through that whole process. the issue is the housing problem, which is a core issue that's happening here. we are short 3.5 million units of housing. that's why it's so expensive simple supply and demand if you are short that many. combination of people on the left and the right.

i don't want this environmentalists on the left as well absolutely who say we have to be careful how we build. it's expensive. we need to streamline that process. we have sb 50 that's happening in the legislature right now. >> tucker: can i ask you a question that i have within wondering about all week? why is no one pointing to the cause of overcrowding which is immigration. the state is too crowded you can't get anywhere. the infrastructure is clogged. it's choked. and that's because there are too many people. so the very people are saying we are going to fix the housing problem say we are going to invite in millions of new people and give them free healthcare. has logic been suspended or am i missing something. >> i don't think people are inviting people to come. >> by offering healthcare to millions of illegals? >> if i have kids and living in a country in central american and a gang threatens to kill them if i don't do their bidding in the cartel, i'm going to flee as well. >> if you are walking down the street and you are not that hungry and pass a restaurant that says free pizzato, would you go in?

of course you would because there is free pizzato. >> i like pizzato. whpizza.>> who doesn't. i do too as can you tell. single biggest problem is healthcare, w we will give it to you for free and not kick you out why wouldn't you. >> they are already here. already neighbors, part of our communities. they are already going to the emergency rooms which is far more expensive than preventative care. >> wait a second. we got. we just read you the numbers. have you got thousands of native born californians leaving every year primarily for texas but also idaho and contiguous states, oregon, arizona. why wouldn't you be worried about them? >> we are worried about them? >> tucker: really? i don't see the governor doing anything about their flight. >> and that's what it goes back to things like sb 50 to work on the housing issue. local cities. republican leaning cities who refuse to build housing. what's happening, that's what's killing the supply and the demand.

>> tucker: homelessness in the state super majority in the legislature you are telling me with a straight face is caused by republicans? >> i'm saying definitely being contributed to. not exclusive layoff democratic issue. >> tucker: will you concede if you have a lot more people in a confined area it's more crowded? there is more traffic and house something more specific? >> as long as people are having for man two kids that's going to be the case. >> tucker: no, actually native born people in california are leaving. it's 100 percent immigration problem. will you at least concede that inviting people from other countries, i'm sure they are all great people. it doesn't matter, makes the state poorer and more crowded? >> i don't fully agree with that either it. depends on who the immigrants are. we know we are have immigrants coming from wealthy european nations. >> tucker: absolutely. it's not about ethnicity. it's about numbers. the state is too crowded. do you concede that. >> i don't agree with that the reason why we can address that we can build housing. >> tucker: we could make

hong kong or singapore. >> why not have more people? people are continuing -- as long as people have kids and our entire economy is based on growth which in the united states it is, otherwise our system starts collapsing if we are not growing. look what happened with japan. then we need to build housing. >> tucker: that's not actually working. one of those theories at the chicago school they tell us is true but turns out it isn't. ethan, great to see you. >> great to see you, tucker. >> tucker: homeless population 59,000 people. if all of those got together and became a city, they would rank it the 31st of l.a. county's 88 cities. if they moved to vermont they would be the largest city in the state justth mommyless, just here. the surging homeless population in l.a. along with the toleration of needles and fecal waste. talking point. city suffered outbreak of typhus feasting on garbage in city streets. last week we profiled a

victim of that on our show. >> far away skid row rats and fleas. traveled through the streets. deputy city attorney who works way up on the sixth floor at city hall got infected. >> i felt like i was going to die. the homeless population has moved closer and closer. they surround the building. as folks walk to work and back, they are walking through rotting food, raw sewage. >> tucker: it's not the medieval period it's just a one party state. host of the dr. drew podcast he joins us tonight. doctor, thanks for coming on. typhus. >> typhus. my own home became overrun with rats. when i saw that typhus outbreak. know that's what's coming. what scares me they have done nothing to reduce the rodent population and endemic in this area after typhus is something called rosenia a plague. the city you talked about 60,000 people in the street, defecating. feces flowing into the l.a.

river. bypassing sewage treatment. a city almost the size of pasadena bypassing city treatment. having sea mammal die off we are worried about turtles and straws? unbelievable. where are they? >> tucker: that's it. where are they? i don't understand it. we have bird and sea mammal die off. we have 60,000 people's excrement going directly into the ocean. i don't understand it. such a massive problem here. the other thing you were talking about, i have so much to say. i'm sorry, tucker. i'm having a rush of ideas. i'm upset about it you mentioned undocumented immigrants here we have observed 1 million conservatively in los angeles 1 million undocumented immigrants. where is the housing problem? they got here without a job. without any money, without a family, without a passport. they found auto place to live. where is the showing problem. >> tucker: as you dry around los angeles you don't see any mexican immigrants. >> they are not on the

street and homeless. the homeless is the mentally ill. until they start talking about that this is not going to get better. gavin newsom is going -- that's the core of the problem. >> chronically mental illness. they are not going to get better when you put them in housing. they are going to continue to detear united states. gavin newsom put up sprung tents that i have been asking for. i'm grateful he will do that. no laws allow us to get those people and put those in those tents. the law prevents us from approaching those people. that's why you saw law enforcement from approaching. laws prevent us from treating the mental illness. >> tucker: sounds like we are missing the point completely. >> completely. the problem is the mental illness and the need to take resistive patients. i have been working in a psychiatric hospital for over 30 years. i know what these patients are i see them and know exactly what's going on. i know they will thrive in treatment. and they will look back and be pissed that people let

them deteriorate on the street. weirdly, similar sessions in the setting of dementia. if we don't rush in and treat that we are considered inhuman. progressive treatment no treatment. schizophrenia, by poll lash addiction let go long enough untreatable. early you can change the course of the illness. we are not doing it and murdering as a result. three die a day in the streets of los angeles. so, my question and i will ask this of your audience is well, what does the body count need to be? as a physician i'm incensed what does the body count need to be before they change their rhetoric. it's out of control. thousands of people are dying. 10,000, 100,000 then maybe we should help these people? housing is not the issue. housing is part of it, of course, they need a place to go. but you have got to address the mental illness and addiction that's underloying them and get item to the facilities. all these sprung tents will

be relatively guilty. >> tucker: the cruelty of this. >> beyond. >> tucker: we interviewed your old friend adam can a rollla. the whole interview airs next week. he brings you up while discussing politics. watch this. >> and i love what rickey gervais said and i have said that dr. drew has always said to me when is the pendulum going to start swinging back. we are so politically correct. everything is woke. we are getting everyone fire for the thought police are out there: i said the comedians. the comedians are always the tip of the spear. the comedians are going to bring the pendulum back. ricki gervais great job of tip of the comedic spear of bringing it back. >> he also told me that dave chapelle netflix comedy special he said that's the moment that the comedian started becoming able to speak again. i always go to adam and ask him you have got a crystal brain, don't you know? and i asked him how do you

think this is going to go because i'm so disturbed by the situation it's just rolling -- it looks revised code we are rolling into disaster, particularly in this state, how bloomberg, a smart guy like that can say this is a model for the country. it is deeply disturbing. you will not meet a person i here that does not have a place. >> you won't find a place. it breaks my heart. kills me that my parents are dying on the street. >> that was remarkable, thank you. >> appreciate it. >> tucker: important creepy news lawyer left the jail in california, now in york. specifically he has been transferred to the correctional center in mid-atlantic. you main -- manhattan. that's the rat infested jail jeffrey epstein was in when he allegedly committed suicide. this transfer more important than ever that we monitor cpl bs being. we will continue to track the story and tell you if he

accepts. well, beto o'rourke hoped that by getting a nickname people would believe that he was running as the first latino president. he didn't fool any voters, of course and had to drop out. he did convince joe biden. wait until you see this tape. plus, hillary clinton's new documentary seems perfectly timed for a last minute presidential bid. not to be cynical but could she be planning one? we will tell you just ahead ♪ ♪

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asked if he would be willing to pick beto o'rourke or julian castro as his running mate. biden was asked that because beto o'rourke and julian are from texas most electoral votes. somehow biden missed the point completely. watch this. >> yes, i would. i consider either or both of them. but and look, i have spoken to each of them and i have spent some time talking to them. my plea to both of them is that they stay engaged. they are talented, talented people. i can guarantee you that there is going to be latinos in my cabinet. i can guarantee you there is going to be latinos in my white house. and both of them are qualified. biden considered beto o'rourke latino. joe biden regards beto o'rourke a contribute to the

people of glad la harrahs and prove immigration. one problem beto rob to his friends isn't latino he is whiter than elizabeth warren went to boarding school in virginia. he likes pearl jam. he writes poetry about milk. here is a sample stanzas in the it's in english oh sacred cow i thirst for you provide milk. he did have a chalupa once on the way back from rugby practice. is he not historic. boat toe was beto was just a nie until now it never fooled anyone. hillary clinton has a julio hulu documentary coming out. trailer is here already. here's a portion. >> there is a set of expectations out of a first lady. i violated them from the very beginning. >> me deciding hillary to become secretary of state surprised people. >> hillary is polarizing. >> email. >> email. >> emails blew up.

>> bang. it played into all of this. >> she is so sketchy. >> cold. >> calculating. >> she could be crazy. >> there is a sense that she knows she ethical moral person that can blind anyone. >> you get scarred up a little bit. >> it wasn't like i thought. i think about the most stupid thing i could possibly do and do it. >> i didn't want anything to do with him. you want to make a difference. you want to have an impact. well then you have got to get in the arena. [laughter] not even subtle. you got to get in the arena, hillary says, staring meaningful off into the distance. it's possible this might encourage rumors that she is getting in the race. documentary is released perfectly time to serve as in fact a de facto campaign ad. hearing democratic pundits discuss the weakness of this year's field of joe biden and the guy with the weird hair. maybe the stage is being set for clinton's late entry

into the race? could it happen. buck sexton hosts the buck sexton show he joins us tonight. politics aside. i'm glad someone is finally giving this woman the attention she deserves. >> i think this is probably going to be more interesting than the 15 or so books she has had ghost written for her. >> or 27 previous bio-pics about hillary clinton. i don't know enough about her. >> you have to look at and thing there are a few reasons why hillary clinton can not be entirely discounted she has a hole in her soul that can only be filled personal level for her by becoming president of the united states. nothing else will ever suffice. it will never be acceptable. you look at the clinton political industrial complex. i know you know a lot of folks in d.c. hillary's presidency was going to be the crowning achievement of their professional lives. they haven't given up on that idea yet. hillary was the person they were hoping they were going to ride her coat tails to whatever white house job and still very much in place all those consultants. they might have gotten other democrat jobs they would all leap back on the hillary train if they could and the

weakness of this democratic field bernie sanders has to be taken seriously now as a presidential contender as the possible nominee for the democrats and is he a socialist. we can call him a democratic socialist. a lot of the country still is going to have a problem with that some democrats are savvy enough to understand that's an issue. with hillary, i guess, there is no such thing as overexposure because we need to see more of what hillary clinton's life was all about. for some reach, we don't know why because hulu thinks we do. >> tucker: i can't imagine someone who has been over exposed to the point all the ink has faded. there is nothing about hillary you don't know. nothing interesting there nothing that hasn't been chewed over repeatedly. got to think explicit campaign ad. i don't see another explanation. >> definitely feels that way. also there is a narrative that makes some sense for a lot of democrats that you will talk to if they really believe the election was stolen by russia in 2016 which, despite all the investigation and everything, still people that believe that it was stolen. you can't get them to explain why but they will tell you about the only way to set that right, there is

this narrative you can see it's implicit in all of this would be for hillary to come back as the unity candidate in a brokered convention and be the person to set right what was made wrong in 2016 and effectively be the true counter revolution against trumpism. hillary in a sense is still better placed for that than any of these other candidates. certainly not joe biden who obama even knows i'm not going to endorse this guy. >> tucker: first choice of you are exactly right of the samantha powers of the world. no way secretary of state. you get it. you wonder if the average democratic voter is really going to want to hire hillary clinton to run the democratic party again? >> well, this would test out the question is it possible to want it too much and try too often to be president? i think everybody will have to look at this and say this would be record-setting in the sense that she is never giving up, she is never going to go away entirely. it also depended on what ends up happening in the democratic primary come up. we will have to see if somebody finally emerges. who could really even

emerge? we know it's biden, maybe bernie. bernie has the socialist issue. biden wasn't able to get 2 or 3% of the candidate on his own back in the day of the democrat primary. why would someone be an inspiring choice. quite honestly if they are going to pull somebody out of the stand so to speak somebody from the sideline, mitchell obama would make more sense than hillary clinton. hillary clinton, i think, wants it a whole lot more than michelle obama ever would. >> tucker: which is why michelle obama is far more likely to be the break glass emergency candidate. i totally agree with that buck sexton great to see you tonight. thank you. >> thanks. >> tucker: harvard law review come up with a plan to give the left permanent unbreakable control of america. they won't have to fool around with dumb elections. turning the city of washington, d.c. into 127 states. more than 250 new senators. not joking. they want this. we will explain the plan. after the break. ♪

>> tucker: virtually every institution in this country controlled by the left. the academic world one party state in effect. left wing idealogues bureaucracy, media, big tech. about the only power center remaining in america that has resisted total documentation is electoral system. people still get to vote here. and about half the time they vote republican. this is the last remaining check on the left's power and it enrages them.

and that's why they are constantly looking for new ways to make voting irrelevant. consider their latest plan. it comes from the harvard law review. that's america's most prestigious legal journal. a publication that barack obama once edited. the article the review publishes influence america's law professors, political thinkers our highest courts. it matters. in a recent piece written by the anonymous author the harvard law review opposes a strategy for giving the left permanent unbreakable control of this country. the strategy admit more states. no it's not a plan to bring in puerto rico and d.c. have you seen that before. it's far more ambitious than that the author calls for making every one of washington, d.c.'s 127 neighborhoods its own state. that would mean 127 new house members. it would mean 254 new senators. all of them taken from tiny slices of america's most democratic city. now, it's not just enough new blue states to ensure

permanent control of congress, though, of course, it is that. it's enough to amend the constitution at will, which, of course, is the point of view opoint ofit. the article calls for power to emasculate the u.s. senate. abandon electoral college and size of the u.s. house of representatives. the left could abolish the second amendment. get rid of free speech, ban private home ownership. all ideas they have called for. they could do whatever they want, in fact, which is now and always their goal. sound terrifying? it should. but, liberals love the idea. vox.com praised the idea as needed. entirely constitutional way to unrig american democracy, end quote. unrig? of course the proposal is exactly the opposite of unrigging. it's a coup. its purpose is to subvert our democratic system to destroy our constitution permanently. in order to give a small group of rich liberals total control over everything.

that's their plan. just so you know. as would told you repeatedly on this program and showed you with reporting big tech fought hard to boost hillary clinton in the last election cycle and they have worked hard to undermine the trump administration ever since. with the 2020 election approaching right now, they have no intention of letting votes go against them a second time. they mean it. according to vox, a secret group of silicon valley donors called mind the gap is plotting to spend $140 million in an effort to defeat donald trump. meanwhile at facebook, only a single employee has donated money to the trump campaign so far. just one. at twitter, none. not a single twitter employee. that's how big tech is spending its money. google and try to use monopoly power to situate results. you can expect them to be more aggressive this time. author of history of the future and he joins us tonight. blake, thanks a lot for coming on. >> thanks for having me,

tucker. >> tucker: mind the gap, $140 million, within the context of recent american presidential campaigns, that's an extraordinarily aggressive posture. >> yeah. the scope is extraordinary. and their method, their raise -- what makes this unique, you know, mind the gap is a data-driven organization. that's not unusual. you know, trump and brad parscale used data driven analytics to help win the 2016 election and more power to them. the problem here is secrecy. first i learned about the story is that there is so many times in modern day journalism where you use the word secretly or secretive to imbue a sense ominous nature like harris appears on tucker carlson. just because i didn't issue a press release. i was like wow, this is actually the word secretly implied. an organization, one of their members says raise on detra is stealth. that's what they're all about. going back to what you said

earlier the scope of is incredible. minimum suggested donation is $40,000. this is not small potatoes we are talking about here. >> tucker: isn't this exactly what the left warned us about for about 40 years that democracy would corrode in the face of a small group of rich people exerting undue influence in elections. they said they hated this and now they have kind of corn ared the market on it. >> right. because they are doing it for the right reasons in their mind. >> tucker: good point. >> i spent few years speaking with facebook executives and working on this book and there wasn't a single person that seemed to have any doubt about their mission. they were so certain of it and, you know, when you have a mission in mind, everything that helps you achieve that mission is, you know, for the, quote, greater good. and that's really what the problem is here. you said there is only one person in all of 2019 that donated to trump. i think the -- maybe the second last -- another person but two people out of a company that has 35,000 full time employees that's insane. two of anything out of

35,000 is insane. and these, you know, it really is a mission-driven organization like many of those companies in silicon valley and they believe that they are doing the right thing and there is a by any means possible sort of asterisk to all of it. >> tucker: so a company of 35,000 that has two republican donors lectures the rest of us about diversity. [laughter] everything is irony. so, i wonder, i mean, i'm skeptical that the president can prevail against forces this big and well organized. i think this is a challenge to our democracy. i wonder if republicans understand what they are up against here. >> i mean, again, i tip my cap to their data driven market analysis aspect to it. one of the things they did was suggested putting money on underdogs instead of candidates likely to win that money wasn't going to help make an actual difference. the real problem is the secrecy. not knowing where it's going. and the, you know, for silicon valley whose east those iethos.why not the stealt?

>> first thing they would do is overturn the democratic candidates say the supreme court decision that made all of this possible, that made these dark money convictions possible. classifying them as political speech, protected speech. have they changed their view on that? are they not for campaign finance reform anymore? >> i think you can sum it down into like what a second grader would say they did it first. anything they want to do, any bad behavior, it's justified because the other side did it first. we are just balancing the scales. >> tucker: well, i think republicans should be worried about this. i really do. people should be worried about it. too much power for too small a group in my view. blake, great to see you tonight. thank you. >> thanks for having meme on, tucker. >> tucker: democrats are going all out to get rid of the second amendment in commonwealth. trying to suppress public protests against them. live update on that. ridicule is sometimes the most affective weapon against tier ranly of course

they are trying to destroy a website. joining success babylon b. joins us next and we are happy to have them.

♪ >> tucker: virginia governor ralph northham the guy in black face one thing he cares about is gun. he doesn't want you to carry a gun to protect yourself. the administration is trying to prevent you from doing that trying to pass new gun control bills using executive fiat from ban protesters from bringing guns to the state capitol. trace gallagher has more on this story. >> monday is martin luther king which in richmond is lobby day where groups on both sides of various political issues including gun rights traditionally

show up to lobby their state lawmakers. for the first time in 25 years, democrats control both chambers of the legislature and have already introduced a number of gun control bills and some on the left, including "the washington post," and "new york times" are reporting that gun rights activists and others may be looking to stir up trouble, quoting a sense of crisis enveloped the capital of virginia on tuesday with police on heightened alert and richmond bracing for possible violence ahead of a gun rally next week that is suspected to draw white supremacist and other antigovernment extremists. call that alarmists except for a few obscure facebook posts from out-of-state residents, reporters for the times and the post have no evidence of an impending civil war. but democratic governor ralph northam saying that nobody wants another charlottesville temporarily banned weapons for the capital saying some activists are not planning to be peaceful. watch. >> we have received credible

intelligence from our law enforcement agencies that will are groups with malicious plans for the rally that is planned for monday. >> the governor cited dark web channels used by violent groups and the arrest of suspected white supremacist in other states. many gun rights groups have told their members to be on their best behavior and say they are not nearly as concerned about violence as they are about finding a place to park. tucker? >> tucker: not surprising. trace gallagher, thanks so much. well, of all the good things and bad things the internet has brought us, one thing we are celebrating is the renaissance in satire and comedy online. no website represents that renaissance better than the babylon be. bee. grasping at straws now regret banning straws. el paso man comes from down from insane acid trip where he ha loot nateed he ran for president. how about this one cnn

attacks babylon belayed internet is only big enough for one fake news site. those sites are amusing obviously satiric call. the left has grown steadily more radical lost its sense of humor completely in case you haven't noticed and become far more tyrannical. cnn high schoolers from kentucky. website poking fun at america's most powerful media figures must be destroyed. the left has set out to crush the babylon bee. the "new york times" suggested when the right pokes fun at the left it's not satire it's quote deceit. cnn reporter recently accused babylon bee of spreading, quote, click bait and misinformation. in other words, facebook better sens sensor it and fast. seth, thanks so much for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: by the way, i think your site is hilarious. a lot of people think that it's doing well. >> thank you. >> tucker: cnn doesn't think it's funny at all and they

are trying to get facebook to ban you. why are they doing that? >> everything is irony, you said that earlier. how funny is it that cnn is coming after us for spreading disinformation. >> tucker: that did occur to me, actually. but, and you are right. it's hilarious on one level. but, on another, it's ominous. the idea that a, quote, news organization could try and put you out of business because it doesn't like your jokes, i mean, that's not a world you want to live in, is it? >> you had that clip of adam carolla earlier saying the pendulum if it's going to swing back the other way that could be driven by humor and comedy. if that's true and they see it as a threat and aiming at the wrong targets and they don't like that, you know, personally, they like to smear and denigrate people they disagree with, right? >> tucker: right. >> so while they are not actively and openly calling for us to be de-plat formed it's implicit when they say these guys are spreading misinformation. they just call themselves the satire site to get around facebook's rules and

things like that. those suggestions what's the solution there. if it's true and they are not spreading fake news about us and really being honest. facebook should shut it down, right? that would be the proper response to a site that's just misinforming people on purpose. so, that seems to be their goal. and this just don't like the targets we are aiming at. >> tucker: i mean, it's clearly true. they are building the predicate for censorship. they are essentially saying that you shouldn't be allowed to continue doing what you are doing. the baffling thing to me is there is a lot of hard edge sites on the internet. sweetness to the cab loan bee. not a cruel site at all. pull back i think as a reader of it. kind of the last site that you would think the left would want to squelch because you know there are other targets. what is it about you that they really don't like? >> that's a good question. i mean, we do -- the interesting thing is that we

don't just target the wrong targets, right? i think one of the things that's really refreshing about the back leon bee there is a lot of self-deprecating humor. we poke at trump a lot. the right is not off limits. we are a christian satire site. christians aren't off limits. we often throw things with a projector up on the wall that are our own issues that we try to deal with and say are we comfortable with this? it's very interesting to us that rather than recognizing the fact that, you know, we kind of hit all sides, we are pretty balanced with it and like you said we are not vicious. >> tucker: at all. >> what's the real reason for trying to take us out. >> tucker: are you worried about it. >> i'm not. i'm not because every single time this type of thing happens, and it's happened repeatedly. happens with nancy pelosi. we have ha -- with snopes.coupls a fake satire site. they put satire in scare

quotes. >> tucker: i don't even know what that means to be a fake satire site? >> it's redundant. >> tucker: yeah, right. >> i'm not worried about it because the response we get is incredible. i wouldn't be talking to you if they weren't doing. this our fans are really loyal. they rally behind us. we get a lot of support. and the push back is really tremendous. i think it backfires on them. and it only amplifies our voice when they try to see you lens it. >> tucker: i don't think it's going to work. i must get a text a day of one of your headlines. godspeed. i think you are doing a great thing. making america a little bit lighter is really a virtuous thing to do in my opinion. so thank you for doing it. >> thanks for having me on. >> tucker: well, this country narrowly avoided a war with iran last week. how do american voters feel about that? it's interesting. we have brand new polling on the subject. plus the e.p.a. has announced a new policy that helps them but it might not be good for you at all.

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>> tucker: despite its name the e.p.a. doesn't just protect to protect the environment it also exists to protect you pollutants generated by modern life. soon the e.p.a. will be doing less to protect you and more to protect big agriculture. a pesticide second most

common one in the united states. half of america's corn crop is treated with it. at throw screen is banned in the european union and here is why. when administered to the male frogs it chemically cass straits them and causes some to change their sex entirely. in humans atrozene endocrine disrupter. for boys in utero lower birth rate. undescended tes testicles and deformity to organs. maybe it's low enough we don't need to ban it. the e.p.a. isn't just keeping it legal. it's decided to stop closely monitoring its use. within a 60 page regulatory document the e.p.a. has announced it will soon end its atrozene monitoring. drinking water to make sure the levels are safe. according to the e.p.a. the risk is simply so low it's not worth even checking to

make sure the situation is under control. in fact, it's so low they are allowing 50% more atrozene to enter america's waterways. despite 2017 the year most recent data public. 30% more americans had measurable amounts in tap water. according to researches at purdue university a single part per billion i don't know lower birth rate. the water is already testing at 22 part per billion in illinois. for the e.p.a. that's not a concern. their concern is corn. well, president trump ran in 2016 on keeping america out of middle eastern quag myers. came close then to getting one in last week after the assassination of qassem soleimani. looks like on the brink for a minute but in the end we avoided it. what did the public think of the whole thing. new morning consult poll finds this fascinating. 71% of voters approved of

not attacking iran. just 14% disapprove. imagine that. avoiding far off wars is popular. can you win an election on that. we will be back monday. have a great night. sean hannity is next. ♪ ♪ >> hi, welcome to hannity tonight marks the end of yet a major week of accomplishments for the president and the trump administration. two historic new trade deals, a record-setting economy, major progress on the border wall. safety, security, and prosperity for all americans, nobody can dispute any of this. none of it matters to today's radicalized democratic socialist party. today the president summed it up perfectly during an event with college football national championship lsu. take a look. >> just told the coach we don't normally do this but i'm doing it for this team. anybody wld