>> welcome back, the beer and bourbon festival, thank you for being here, guys, jason, rachel, thank you for being here as well. >> awesome, beer. so you can bring for small prices,lif you can build big dreams, spend less, get way more. >> see you sunday, folks. shop everything home at wayfair.com >> some good and some not so >> you know, a little more than two weeks away, the iowa good. [laughter] caucuses and some 2020 candidates would of to turn [inaudible] [cheers and applause] their focus to the impeachment neil: the two legal teams are trial and the campaign trial in busy preparing as we speak for west des moines, iowa, a who's the third impeachment trial in american history, here is what who of the top candidates are is happening today. stating their case. >> hey, yeah, neil, people are president trump's legal team trying to get in some weekend campaigning efforts before they would submit answer to articles have to return back to of impeachment and house washington d.c. we just spoke to senator amy articles will be made public. klobuchar, one of four senators still running for president and which matters more to voters and two of the four are considered

frontrunners here in iowa and investors? peter navarro says the answer is all are having to adjust their clear, he is here. campaign trial, and still in the as 2020 presidential candidate race right now, impacted by michael bennett of colorado, republicans are calling for him impeachment, you have senator and other senators running for the white house to recuse michael bennet and amy klobuchar themselves in the impeachment trial because they are too bias? and elizabeth warren and all have to head back to d.c. for well, good morning, everybody, the impeachment trial as other neil cavuto, you are watching candidates like andrew yang are starting to ramp up efforts here in iowa. cavuto live, with deadlines andrew yang started a 17 bus looming, lucas thompson with tour across the state and keep latest from washington, we begin doing them every single day with lucas. sir. >> neil, house democrats have until the february caucuses. until 5:00 p.m. eastern today to and with the senators, they don't have the option to do submit brief laying out evidence something like that in the last in president trump's impeachment trial, not sure if witnesses little bit of campaigning. will be called. >> i can't be there all the >> i predict they'll be going to time. i have a constitutional duty. be witnesses, we had too many indications from two different i'm coming up with individual senators that they want this, duties and includes skyping in and my husband, he's a good remember in clinton, here we campaigning and my daughter. don't have that kind of >> i'd rather be in iowa,

there's a caucus there in two unanimity. >> who is a witness then, who and a half weeks, i'd rather be appears? in new hampshire and nevada and >> oh, i think the top one is john bolton, right, for the so forth. but i wore a constitutional oath democrats and then the republicans really do want hunter biden. as a united states senator to do >> democrats say the former vice my job and i'm here to do my president and his son are not on job. and i think the people understa. trial. >> we are investigating joe biden and hunter biden in this >> there's been a lot of talk about whether or not the particular the charges against impeachment trial hurts those the president and taking funds senators still running in the and using them for political, race, particularly here in iowa own political purposes. and other early states like new hampshire and nevada and of so i'm not going down that course only time will tell. rabbit hole but the case is not one thing we do know about iowa, about the vice president, the despite social media becoming former vice president or his more prevalent in 24 hour news son. >> we are going to proceed in cycles, iowa prioritized voters two phases, phase 1 is going to be the opening argument from the candidates face-to-face and 50% house managers and from the white house, each will have 24 of iowans are still undecided. hours, spread out over 2 days to neil: that's incredible. present the arguments they want. always appreciate it. i'm going to be live in des moines, iowa two weeks from now >> democrats scoff that one of the president's choices did for special coverage leading up to the caucuses and some of the biggest names in politics and

offend them. business as voters get ready to >> yes, there are a couple of cast their first votes in the strange choices, ken starr, 2020 election season, and it's a chief attack for president bill great place to go. clinton for lying about sex and love iowa. now he's going to be defending meanwhile, we have house speaker president trump. >> the white house response to nancy pelosi accusing the attorney general bill barr of house democrats is due by noon going rogue and suggesting that monday, house democrats will he is president trump's puppet. have another 24 hours to respond to the white house, neil. this is a familiar theme that another attorney general, the neil: thank you, my friend, acting attorney general, matthew president trump's legal team whitaker was having to deal expected to file legal file, with. does it seem like deja vu to mark meredith with the president him? in west palm beach, florida and he's next. so when her car got hit, she didn't worry. has the latest. >> as you mentioned president trump is in florida, brief visit, he will be heading out of the country on monday and going she simply filed a claim on her usaa app and said... to economic summit in i got this. switzerland but day before the usaa insurance is made the way kate needs it - easy. senate takes impeachment trial, she can even pick her payment plan lucas was talking about, the so it's easy on her budget and her life. white house overnight released usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. list of lawyers, we want to show usaa them to you, list of 8 people that the president will have in his team, white house counsel

pat, jay sekalow, ken starr, allen dershowitz. the white house put a statement late friday and they said, quote, articles of impeachment house democrats have adevelopped grave and lasting damage to our institutions and our nation, the president looks forward to the end of partisan and unconstitutional impeachment, it's really unclear how long a senate trial is going to last or what the rules for that trial e, lawmakers expect fierce debate and the white house is ready for whatever may come next. >> we are prepared for whatever happens in this senate, a long drawn-out process with witnesses, we are ready, if it's some version in between where it's shorter and a couple of witnesses are ready, if it's (sensei) beautiful. absolutely dismissed which it but support the leg!

when i started cobra kai, should be we are ready for that as well. the lack of control over my business >> well, the big question in that, so many lawmakers as well made me a little intense. as the rest of us are trying to but now i practice a different philosophy. figure out whether or not they'll be witnesses allowed to quickbooks helps me get paid, testify before the senate, we heard from so many house and manage cash flow, senate democrats they believe and run payroll. and now i'm back on top... democrats should be compelled to with koala kai. testify, people like the acting hey! chief of staff mick mulvaney and more mercy. john bolton, neil, we will be (vo) save over 40 hours a month with intuit quickbooks. the easy way to a happier business. looking very closely before the trial gets underway, neil. neil: mark meredith, thank you very much, house impeachment managers are preparing ahead of tuesday to someone who has been in their exact position, i'm talking about the republican governor of arkansas, it's looking to get your business off to a fast start in the new year? it's go time! switch to comcast business and get fast internet manager in impeachment trial, on the nation's largest gig-speed network. governor, thank you for taking the time. >> great to be with you, neil. plus, complete reliability with 4g lte backup. neil: lay this out for me on the and, cloud-based security witness thing and you can clarify some things out, to help protect the devices on your network. greenlight your business in 2020 republicans, you know, are not with fast internet and voice for $64.90 per month. going this -- with the idea that switch now and get a $100 prepaid card they would have witnesses but

when you add comcast business securityedge. call today. pressure building a few days comcast business. beyond fast. ago, each side is going to argue for its own team, how does that work out? >> well, first of all, the president's legal steep is -- team is steeped in constitutional rise and even this does not rise for offense. these two motions in the clinton impeachment trial did not come about until both sides presented their case in summary fashion >> i said that the attorney general was implicated as i which took about 2 weeks that said, this testimony implicated the rogue attorney general who after that summary presentation, has been the puppet of-- then in that case, senator bob i don't know who is the puppet, moore of west virginia filed a motion to dismiss. trump or the attorney general, but this is not--

he says this is my attorney that gave momentum to having general, this is my department witnesses in the trial even of justice. though it was limited and so in really? >> all right, house speaker this trial i think that you'll see a very similar process where nancy pelosi calling attorney general bill barr a rogue attorney general suggesting the probably senator mcconnell will president's puppet. keep his votes together in terms former acting attorney general matthew whitaker with us right of following the regular process now. so that each side presents their matthew, i was reminded this puppet theme or this serving at case, the decision on whether to the behest of the president in a dismiss or go to witnesses will political capacity was something probably be a couple of weeks you dealt with not too long ago. i want to bring up this memory. away. >> so now with the pressure >> can you say right now, given his round of interviews this week, former operative in mr. president, bob mueller is the ukraine, the close confidant honest and not conflicted? >> congressman, i'm not a puppet of rudy giuliani, for him to to repeat what you're saying. speak and then there's the pressure of getting john bolton to speak even though the >> are you able to say it? president talked about executive >> i've answered your question privilege, republicans say those what i believe about the special guys speak, we want to hear from council and i stand by my prior joe biden and/or hunter biden, i statement. >> do you say it to the president though? could see the two canceling out >> congressman i'm not here to and there being no witnesses. be a puppet to repeat terms and words that you say that i should >> well, it is very risky say. >> all right, this is washington prospect for either side to today. you know?

start new round of witnesses and >> that was less than a year this is very unusual because ago, too, that's amazing how what the debate was 2 years ago time flies. >> and a continued theme. now, i know people will talk is whether withins who had previously given testimony in about the democrats as their biases and republicans their biases, but i don't know how you the independent council investigation or in the house, can resolve the whole impeachment matter without it they would be called as live just looking like it just falls witnesses and our case was that along political lines, and live witnesses is really what that's the ultimate read. >> this impeachment especially is the most partisan and it had no republican votes in the allows and the house did not house. and really, i think ultimately, call many of the witnesses that it's going to, in the senate, they are arguing ought to testify and that is probably fall down partisan lines as well although there are extraordinary where you would have to go over to the senate a couple of senators that are really to complete the democrats that are in tough investigation, that's risky for beth sides and they would be reelects, including mr. jones from alabama, who i think is very doubtful in my judgment as to whether that would be helpful going to really have a difficult to the senate in reaching a vote when he has to answer the decision. neil: you know, it's question whether or not the president should be removed. and let's not forget, i mean, of interesting, when the shoes are on the other foot, back when you anybody that votes for witnesses were handling clinton or documents in the senate is impeachment process, democrats

pretty much saying that the want to make this quick because house did an incomplete slip it's foolish goal and waste of time, republicans are in the shod investigation to start with and i think when we go down that same position now, when you're road and we find out who wants handling something like that, politicized affair that falls additional documents or witnesses, i think that's going along pretty much party lines to lay bare how partisan this and that's certainly the case is. >> wouldn't it be an opportunity here, stepping back, what's the then for republicans to surprise democrats and say, yeah, we're for witnesses as well. fallout? >> well, the fallout in terms of now, obviously you'd need a simple majority to do that, our constitutional process is that we have the recognize this assuming all 47 democrats would do that, all you need is four is a trial, it's not going to be the circus atmosphere it was in republicans to go along with that and it looks like that would be the case. then it gets to be a matter of the house. it will be a lot more dignified who are the witnesses for each and orderly because we have the side in that event and that's chief justice presiding over it when it gets messy, that's when and so i think you'll have the american public give the process it's potentially a much longer trial than we thought. what do you think? >> well, and remember that, i more credibility in the senate, i think they'll pay more closely agree, it's going to be hard to attention to it, in terms of the find those four senators that are going to join the democrats witnesses, i think the first for more witnesses, especially. question is whether any of this arises to an impeachable offense but these witnesses have rights and the american public has been and whether it's executive privilege or whether it is, you know, we could end up back in

very clear both in 2 years ago the court system, which is what and currently that there's a the house tried to avoid with very high bar for impeachment the folks that didn't want to show up voluntarily or where and the senate has set that very there were executive privilege issues. high bar as well, 2 years ago so, i mean, this could drag out they said you didn't reach the high bar in this case there's no for only for additional weeks, indication the american public believes you ought to remove a but maybe in court for six to 10 president for the facts that more months. maybe it's a delayed proceeding and put to the side and maybe have been demonstrated. i think there's a lot to unfold taken up eventually, but becomes, i mean, i really feel still and what we learned from like nancy pelosi's been looking history is that our democracy is for an off ramp, that's why she strong and our constitutional process works when you follow it delayed it. i don't think -- probably that closely and i have some she tried to side line these confidence that the senate is senators that are running for president. going to handle this in much i think she was looking for a way out because all she cares more better fashion than the about was what they did in the house did and that the american house which is impeaching the public will accept the outcome. president. neil: it could work out nicely. neil: we shall see, governor, >> to be removed-- >> i'm sorry, matthew, but it thank you very much, good having could work out nicely for her if you. >> good to be with you, neil. you're just looking at raw neil: republican senator rand politics, if it means those paul has warning for democrats senators in this race, the democratic senators are calling for witness testimony preoccupied, they have to, you during impeachment trial but know, sit this out, that is will senate democrats be swayed,

campaigning in iowa and new we thought we'd ask one after hampshire, to be in washington. and joe biden emerges as the beneficiary. >> and that assumes that nancy pelosi believes that joe biden this. is the strongest candidate. neil: very true. >> i don't think you can read the polls right now and ultimately the heart of her party is the elizabeth warren, bernie sanders party. so i just, if she's from san francisco, coastal elite and i just do not believe that joe biden, who harkens back to an easier time in american politics and you know, and really has shown some limitations as a candidate, i just don't think that you can say that joe biden benefitting from this impeachment because of his opponents are side lined for a couple of weeks, is a good thing for the democrats. i just think that's conventional wisdom, i just don't believe it. >> now, we're told that the president had his druthers and these things are specious, they depend on unnamed sources and

the president would prefer a fast impeachment trial and this is in a constant drag and focus for the media and he has a lot of things about trade deals and record markets and the rest. do you buy that? whatever he might want that the longer this drags on, the bigger problem it is for republicans and for the president? >> i think the president, i thought firsthand when i served in his cabinet and his administration, i think this president will be able to focus on. you saw just last week, with the passage of the usmca trade deal, the china phase one trade deal, that this president is moving with his agenda and he 0 i believe with the religious liberty event as well and i think you're continuing to see that. he's appointed a really strong legal team and i think adding ken starr, especially to that group is an important and strong move, a very smart lawyer and really a great group of lawyers and including the white house counsel.

i think that this president is confident in his team and it's going to be quick and i think that mitch mcconnell and really the entire senate, we've talked about this before the credibility of the senate is going to be on trial, in addition to the president of the united states, and i think ultimately, these-- all 100 senators do not want the senators to come off as a clown show. neil: and one thing the president was telling donors last night in florida, that he took out soleimani because among other things he said bad things about the united states presumably. and i wonder if that goes on the administration that this was based on threats to the american personnel in the region or planning an imminent attack either on our embassy or other embassies in the region. if that's the case, did the the tempur-pedic breeze™ makes sleep feel cool. president lie? >> i really believe soleimani because the tempur-breeze™ transfers heat away from your body. was a bad dude and he had at so you feel cool, night after night. least 600 american deaths based and now tempur-pedic is ranked number one by jd power in customer satisfaction with retail mattresses. on his proxy war he was fighting

in iraq. hundreds if not thousands of injured americans whose lives have been shattered and having to work to rebuild their lives. so i think it was a righteous >> kind of interesting the comment that all relevant act to take out soleimani. witnesses, would he agree that neil: and many agree with you, sir. hunter biden is relevant and joe but if the premise was he was biden is relevant and that the going to have follow-up attacks and that's why we took him out. whistleblower is relevant, my it's a moot point now, obviously, but what do you guess is no, they don't want think? >> well, i think i've seen-- witnesses that the president wants, i say this, either allow obviously when i was in the all witnesses, all witnesses department of justice i saw a that the president's defense lot of intelligence and i've seen a lot of intelligence team deems necessary or no products, the president has access to all of that on all the witnesses. neil: all right, could it be channels and i think that he had information that he probably can't talk about it now, he had that black and white, warning information to believe that it for democrats that the calls for was time to take out soleimani witnesses of the senate and that there were additional impeachment trial may open the events that could happen in the door for republicans to demand future. >> thank you, sir, very, very witnesses of their own like hunter biden, like joe biden, be much. i wanted to run that by you, a careful what you wish for, you latest development. back to iowa the who as who of just might get it. the candidates and other will the notion from pushing beneficiaries, from senators witnesses then, let's find out sidelined talking impeachment

joining me right now and the former vice-president joe biden talking minutes ago and pete buttigieg who could be presidential candidate and a beneficiary. he can keep campaigning. he doesn't have be to back in colorado senator, michael bennett. >> good to see you, neil. washington. >> just before i share in neil: it also means precious detail-- 't know. days you are not on the stump on you didn't see the sign? that... that wasn't there when i was here earlier. campaigning in iowa and new hampshire, how do you feel about (whimper) really? that? you know, in italy, >> well, i think we have a they let you park anywhere. constitutional duty to fulfill so i'm not worried about getting have a good day, sir. taken off the campaign trail and i think it's really important with geico, the savings keep on going. for your viewers to know that just like this sequel. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more president trump has exercise on car insurance. what had he calls executive (glass shattering) authority not to have any (frustrated yell) (car horn blast) (yelp) witnesses and not to allow any records at all to be put in front of the congress, that's never happened before since the founding of the country and i think it's imperative that the senate have witnesses and that the senate examine records and i think it's an obligation of us as the representative people to do that on behalf of the american people.

neil: go ahead. >> you go ahead. neil: the reason i'm asking about this is republicans claim that, a number of democratic senators especially those running for president, that would be you, recuse themselves because you have inherent bias against the president, what do you say? >> what i would say if they really want to have a fair trial so the american people can understand what has happened to the country over the last year, those same senators should be for having witnesses and having records, that's the best way we can assure that the american people can get to the bottom of the truth. neil: you know, there's been a cynical view that nancy pelosi wanted it this way, amy

klobuchar, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, she could pave the way for somebody like joe biden, do you buy that? >> i actually don't buy that because i think i'm the candidate who can beat donald trump. i heard donald trump say the reason that we are doing all this is we are trying to distract from his great economic track record and i know he gets talking points from this network i i want to say while i'm on the network that the country is creating jobs at slower pace today than when barack obama was president, if we were creating jobs at the same pace we would have a million more jobs than we do, that's the trump job's gap, we have 23% increase in -- in bankruptcy filings among farmers, farm income is down 16% and i heard the president bragging the other day when he was talking about the impeachment trial that he had cushioned the blow but making payments to farmers that he said came from the tariffs, that is

ridiculous, the tariffs are $40 billion of taxes he's charged the american people. neil: let me ask you about it, first of all he's getting talking points from me he's going to the wrong source, leading that aside. >> i didn't say from you. neil: you blanketed the entire network, senator, the one thing i have to ask you, he does have a little purge to stand on here, unemployment levels are lower from all groups, from african american, hispanics, we can quibble about the momentum but he's arguing from a place of sprent, strong economy, strong market, are you worried, not withstanding whoever the democratic nominee even if it's you, that that's a tough battle to fight? >> here is what i'm worried about, neil, look, first of all, we are not quibbling, those are the facts the facts are donald trump is creating jobs at slower rate than predecessor.

neil: i just gave you the facts of record unemployment levels. >> let's go to that, so we are >> president trump not only in the 11th year of economic bashing democrats for what he calls a sham impeachment, he's recovery, president trump has been able to stimulate this looking at policies creating economy with record deficit california's homeless crisis. spending which why your network doesn't report on that, i don't now the state's governor gavin know, but we've got more than a newsome is calling for a truce. and travelling with the trillion dollar record using to president this weekend he joins juice the economy, he spent us from west palm beach, florida, what's going on here? $28 billion, he borrowed the money from the chinese to try to >> well, neil, good morning. as you know, california has been keep our farmers afloat because facing a homeless crisis now for of the trade war that he's the last several months if not years and california leaders created and by the way, that's have been trying to figure out more than twice the money that the best way to address the the obama administration lost on situation. the auto bailout, so my question we've heard from california is, who is the -- governor gavin newsome and it's likely on the mind of california voters. and what to do with the neil: deficits at record rate momentless population has led to under barack obama. more awkward exchanges between the president and california for any democrat to place the leaders. this was a tweet, for instance, springer about fiscal discipline the president put out on christmas day, governor gavin n, that's hypocritical, do you think? >> let me do that because i'm the only one that won award last newsome has done a-- year for my fiscal

responsibility, when barack hasn't done the job, if he can't obama became president he fix it the government can, he inherited deficit of $1.2 trillion, when he left the deficit was $600 billion or says the state is building billions to address the crisis, less, and today it's over a however, the new york times trillion dollars because of reports the governor will send a team to d.c. to speak with trump reckless spending of donald administration official face-to-face how the federal trump, donald trump has grown government can work with state government more than barack obama did in the first time leaders to address the including the stimulus package, situation. so facts are facts, neil, and >> this is a crisis. this is unacceptable. i'm glad that the unemployment everybody has the right to be -- neil: that did grow under barack angry and concerned about the obama under record amount. state of the state of california as relates to the issue of debt is debt and debt, homelessness. >> this is an issue that's been republican or democrat, it's getting a lot of national piled up, right? attention as well. >> yes, the debt has but the it's unclear exactly who that deficit based on the policies meeting will take place with, that he enacted while he was the envoy from california as well as the officials from president and the republicans washington, the people from the white house or hhs or depending wouldn't allow him to enact went on housing and urban down, we were going in a better development, just depends direction is my point and we are exactly what is set up here going in much worse direction within the next several weeks. neil, president trump has repeatedly called out house

speaker nancy pelosi because of the condition of her district today. and accuses the president, really of neglecting her district's need and of course >> what i hear we can't afford the speaker pushes back on that. >> and travelling in california. higher education, childhood education, we can't afford middle-class life, we can't that's a nice assignment, really. safe, our kids will live in >> and on the right, what they say is the dangerous backlash from new york, ending cash bail diminished life. for most misdemeanors and he didn't create all the problems, i really don't think he cares about my kids or your nonviolent felonies, but it's not worked out that way. and fox news correspondent garrett tenney has been following this incredibly rapidly developing story. >> good morning to you, this new law is part of the effort to kids. perform the judicial system. critics argue it's protecting neil: real quickly, senator, if bernie sanders is the nominee, do you think that would be defendants more than victims. one serial bank robber who was imperilled? >> if bernie sanders is the arrested earlier this month four nominee i worry that donald heists allegedly involved in and due to the state's new reform trump would win and i don't want donald trump to win. law, he was released back out on neil: got it, senator, thank you to the streets and four hours

very, very much. >> thanks for having me, good later he robbed another bank. on friday, he turned himself in see you. and walking into the manhattan neil: i'm not talking about criminal courthouse and saying, i'm the one that's been robbing impeachment, i'm talking about trade deals after this. banks. following that arrest the u.s. attorney for the eastern district of new york piled on criticism saying no sound rational criminal justice system to demonstrates determination to seriously commit crimes. here is the new york congressman this morning on fox and friends. >> so, we're seeing instead of the handcuffing of criminals, they're taking the handcuffs off and they're essentially handcuffing lady justice. >> under the new law, 90% of those who are arrested in new york are released back out onto the streets with no bail or detention until their trial. supporters are standing by the reform and argue cash bail disproportionately affect the poor. earlier this month. governor cuomo says it's a work

in progress. >> bail is predicated on wealth. so, if you have access to wealth, you make bail. if you don't have access to wealth, you don't make bail. that's not justice. there's no doubt, this is still a work in progress and there are other changes that have to be made. there are consequences that we have an ajust for. >> so the governor is open to change is the question now, is just how far will those changes go and how long will they take to be made, neil. neil: all right. garrett tenney, thank you very much. obviously republicans are seizing on this as another series of issues they think along with the economy and the strong markets will keep the elections going your way. and back along, john, what do you think so? >> homelessness, to begin with, is a huge issue, in california. disproportionately. they have more than kind of any other state. and the population of california must be looking at this and saying, here is the president of

the united states throwing insults at the governor. here is the governor throwing insults back at the president. you know, a pox on both their houses. this is a problem, we hire both the guys to be managers of this issue. why isn't this being managed? and it goes way back. the homelessness issue in the united states has been with us for years. you know, in the 1980's, we turned the mentally ill out of federal institutions and guess what? and now that it's the cost of housing in california has gone up so much that people can't afford to live, housing starts haven't kept pace with that, so they have a big problem and the voters expecting the managers to manage and figure out a solution to this. >> how do they take it out on? you go to san francisco or seattle and other rich city. there's a great deal of wealth there, particularly in seattle to have rich companies like a many amazon pay a portion of this and it goes on and on and on. are constituents in those cities and states taking it out on

local leaders? if that's the case, republicans would welcome that. but it seems out of control. >> i think, neil, the problem is that this isn't really a partisan issue. we have to go beyond the politics and really look at what is causing homelessness. so, there's three primary reasons as to why people will end up in this situation. you have an economic event, you have substance abuse, you have mental illness. those are the three parts of the formula creating this problem and what's happening is, we're not addressing that source. you can't just say, well, we have a homeless problem, let's build more housing. because what's going to happen is we're just going to have to create more and more and more housing. so, we're not seeing the forest through the trees. i think if we're going to take this problem seriously, we have to look at the causes of homelessness and put resources in those directions. >> well. >> what you want are tent cities

>> discussing impeachment in the or what you see along the house at the exact same moment that the president is signing highways and certainly in san off on this trade deal and the francisco, something even, you know, similar, that that is markets are raising to highs, doesn't look good on any party, how do you digest that? on any leader, mayor, governor, >> well, i think the impeachment president, but they can agree on addressing either the source of the problem or the problem going on in the midst of this is itself and it gets worse, somewhat surreal. ironically in the very strong economic environment. >> yeah, and i think that that it's taking a lot of time is the irony, and you know, diverting attention but will not there is an issue of supply and demand, as you look at san end up interfering with the francisco, l.a., they have-- future. >> people back home, they want there is money in the pipeline, to know about this china deal, a lot of money, taxpayer money in the pipeline to build more they are not asking me about housing, but it's been slowed down for a variety of regulatory reasons. impeachment. so, those are all issues that need to be addressed and you know, i would say as we sort of neil: funny way of showing it. step out and look at this, it is, you know, we do see, as john was talking about, the president the dow flirting believe it or and the governor sort of blaming each other, when they both not, two major trade agreements should be getting together and you know who else should be getting together, there is an and black stone ceo steve, this issue of corporate social responsibility here as well,

there are many, many wealthy companies out there and we were is what voters and investors just talking about the jp morgan health care and they have invested money and that's something that we need to build on as well because there's a lot that can be done between public and private-- care about. >> back in july i did predict >> a lot of the same companies 30,000 on the dow if usmca got go to low tax environments. passed and we got lower interest rates so we are getting there. >> las vegas, where the homeless neil: now you are talking about problem is in the queue. >> what do you think? 32,000. >> by the end of the year we >> the economic problem, you would think, would be partly should be well over 32,000 but solved by the fact that we have more importantly we are going to this incredibly low unemployment be growing, i think, closer to rate so people would be able to get jobs, but you know, you're 3% real gdp and 2% and we will right. there's substance abuse, there's see wages continue to rise meant illness and even if you're able to get a job at the lower particularly disproportionally for the men and women of this end, you can't afford to live in country who work with their hands which is what president trump focuses on in this great these cities. if you go to san francisco, you see the substance abuse and manufacturing economy. neil: you know, when you talk mental illness issue right in about that kind of growth which is above the consensus which the front of you, right downtown. you see it on the street corners and that's been something that's consensus has been very wrong, been with the u.s., now for you might as well have at it, a decades. we have not been able to address lot depends on chinese making this.

and it's going to require a lot more concentration by both parties on these fundamental issues that go way beyond the good on commitments, how do you economics, why beyond that. >> it's when the economics are police that, how do you make sure that they deliver the goods impacted if all of a sudden conventions don't happen as much and buy goods from us? in san francisco or some of >> that's the question, neil, these other cities, that will glad you ask it, two aspects of change their view on this. this, there's enforcement and i don't know whether we're at that tipping point. there's monitoring of the what do you think? behavior. >> i don't think, by the way, let's talk about enforcement, we that we actually have a problem have the most iron-clad in terms of having the funds to solve the problem. i think what ends up happening enforcement mechanism ever put is that as we're seeing now, in trade agreement, there's a this turns partisan, you have 90-day clock, if there's a everybody blaming each other problem it comes to lighthizer, from both sides and we're not addressing the core issues. at the end of 90 days if we, we and i think jeanie, it's the american side is not interesting that you bring up the fact of corporations should satisfied with the result, we get to adopt proportionate get involved with this and have measures which in some cases some social responsibility. is that really their problem would be tariffs, there's never when the money, you know, they been anything like that in the trade deal, it's iron clad, the pay taxes and money is there? president has made that clear it's iron clad, here is the it's just not being other part that's really administrated the proper way?

and i think that's the issue. interesting, the phase 1 deal >> absolutely, jamie diamond has intellectual property theft said on fox the other day, they provisions in it and there's a have responsibility and they're meeting that with millions and whole section on counterfeeting millions of dollars and which companies do have and they want to have-- >> how do you know you're not -- counterfeiting, china is the pouring good private money after public money. biggest counterfeiter in the >> well, absolutely. you have to think about and world by a large margin and what that's why you bring people in to help you think about how you we started to do and what i love can best assist, but-- ments and i see each side making about the president, months and political ads out of this. months ago, we put into place >> well, absolutely, but i think with customs and border that corporations and ceo's and protection operation mega flex boards should and do care about on a monthly basis we are these issues. you need a work force that's opening thousands an thousands there and able to live where of packages on china, looking they work. and you can't have people who, under the hood, what we are finding the surprisingly high you know, can't afford to live. you go to san francisco today, rate of counterfeit and goods coming in and contraband, it's hotel rooms are 2000 a night. it is insanity. so, yeah, there's a lot of well over 10%, a million unemployment is low, but these packages a day coming from china are very high cost places to and over 10% of those are live, even for a short period of time. >> neil, some of the solutions that are being discussed now are contraband, about half of it is opening up parking lots so you can park your car overnight and counterfeit, louis vuitton purses, stuff like that, fake sleep in it.

or opening up certain federal prescription drugs, the other facilities so that people can things controlled substances, sleep there overnight and you're thinking to yourself. things like fentanyl that can that's the downstream problem, flat-out kill you, we are benchmarking now every month and you know, getting a person in the monitoring game if that's shelter for overnight, where not going down, then the addressing the upstream issues enforcement comes into play. are much more complicated and neil: you know part of it politically fraught. involves not calling china a should the federal government be currency manipulator. much more involved in the health >> it was not, by the way. care of the population in the neil: do you think that in the 1980's that it moved away from. past they have rigged their we seem to be discussing solving currency to get what they the downstream when, in fact, wanted? [laughter] the source of the problem would >> there's no question from be much, much harder. neil: and the finger pointing about 2003 to 2014 they were the continues. guys, i want to thank you all very, very much. worst currency manipulators in you know this snow started two the world, they took a years ago this very weekend and tremendous bite out america. there was a big women's protest going on on the anniversary of donald trump's inauguration, the that's an interesting debate because when we put the tariffs protest continues. in, their currency proceeded to >> a multi-faceted people and go down by well over 10%, the people of different genders, different races.

good news was that the american consume didn't have to bear any i'll take that. wait honey, no. of the burden of the tariffs when you want it. because china absorbs them through the currency, we are you get a delivery experience you can always count on. going to watch them really carefully, neil, if you look at you get your perfect find at a price to match, it pragmatically until you see on your own schedule. that you want to go below 7 you get fast and free shipping on the things that again to the dollar, there's make your home feel like you. evidence there that suggests that's what you get that they're using that as a when you've got wayfair. so shop now! crutch but that's treasury secretary's lane and we expect him to look at that really carefully on a daily basis. neil: you're ready to do the same with the europeans as you enter into talks with them? >> what's interesting, neil n2019 when we get final count on gdp growth, you will find that we lost a full percentage point of growth to the federal reserve raising rates too far too fast and lowering them too slowly, europe came into play because they were low%ing their -- lowering their rates and these

are complex pieces on the chess board, one thing i can tell you that donald j trumps thinks -- neil: hope it all pans out, peter navarro, we will have more after this. ayhem, like me. sorry! he's a baby!

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>> all right. we like to interrupt this fixation we've been going on iran and iraq for what's going on right now as we speak in beirut, lebanon. i want to show you images from a city ruled by protests and the government that's been cracking down by shooting those protesters. a lot of them have been arguing against the revamped government benefits and the government that has simply been running out of money and right now they'ven about told in beirut like they're told in a lot of hot bed areas that they should cease and desist with the protests. they did not. a lot are hungry and unemployment is skyrocketing and the government that's not responding and it's bedlam there. we're keeping a close eye on it, and all of a sudden beirut has emerged as the hot spot in a hot region. speaking of that hot region,

back to iraq and the concern growing that now the government there, a caretaker government at that has indicated that the u.s. troops leave. the prime minister wants to sort out the details how soon we can enact them when u.s. representatives make it to baghdad. senator rand paul is telling me, if that's what they want, we should call their bluff and leave. iraq war veteran dan caldwell previously stationed at the al-assad air base in iraq, this is the same base that was just targeted by iran and he joins me right now. sir, good to have you. >> thanks for having me on, neil. >> you know, senator rand paul was essentially saying to me, call their bluff. they want us out and we leave. that depends if that's representatives for all iraqis. they're told the vote in neil: all right, looking like pretty soon amy klobuchar, parliament, half of the key senator running for president of the united states, she's in west players, doesn't necessarily reflect the will of the people.

des moines, iowa, we are what do you think of what rand following closely because the senators running for president paul is saying? we worn out our welcome, let's have precious few days to continue on the campaign trail go. >> i completely agree with rand before they have to be back in paul and so do the majority of washington to deal with impeachment issue, democrats are people. poll after poll done by polling hammering the president over organizations has shown consistently 60 to 70% of the this impeachment trial as the president is pumping trade in american people, including my the economy, pete navarro said fellow veterans think it's time everything is going their way, to get out of these endless wars in the middle east. which will matter to voters when in regards to iraq specifically they go to the polls in we shouldn't wait for the iraqi government which we created by november? the way, to kick us out, we market analyst, wall street should leave now. journal associate editor john now that we've defeated isis, busse and professor jimmy, territorial caliphate we don't have a reason to be there and professor, end with you and begin with you, predicament that frankly shouldn't have been there in the first place. neil: dan, are you worried-- democratic senatorial candidates i'm sorry, my friend. have to get whatever they can get right now because they're you're a remarkably brave guy and you fought gallantly to get going to be glued in washington rid of isis and to bring iraq to after that. >> they better speak fast, 6 weeks sitting at their desk not the places it is, under the speaking as we know, it takes some really viable candidates iranian influence and regains the upper edge and all your off the trail, you know, it's efforts, your colleagues going to be tough and it's going efforts, maimed and killed was to give biden and pete buttigieg for naught. what do you say?

>> well, at the end of the day, in particular a chance to make their case to voters in iowa at we would-- this all-point time as we are a i think we dishonor our troop sacrifice more by staying in few weeks, a few days now away iraq and that's not to diminish from iowa. the individual bravely and fact neil: i didn't want to sound like a black helicopter question cal prowess our troops displayed in iraq. when i was raising with the at an individual unit level and colorado democratic senator and also presidential candidate that individual level, time and time again, our troops stepped up to the plate and performed well. maybe nancy pelosi crafted it but at a strategic level, the this way and the senatorial candidates didn't have a chance iraq war was a failure. and clears path for joe biden, it was a mistake to invade the having said that we can read anything we want into it, what country and everything we've is your sense of how this done since 2003 has been impeachment sorts out the race, mitigating the damage done by especially with the senators? the country. >> it's bad for those who have and leaving the troops there to sit through the trial, but were no clear mission. look, you know, at this point we've destroyed the isis the population in the states is caliphate and pose a bigger threat to iran, if we were to making its mind up and one has to presume that the bulk of that restart our defeat isis mission has already happened in the we'd be helping iran more than our own security. course of how many months now of so, i think it's very clear, campaigning have we had, it's a it's time to get out and as i've disadvantage for those who aren't going to be in the field stated previously, most veterans but i can't imagine it changing agree with me including most the numbers profoundly, can you?

veterans of the iraq war. neil nile right now we have the neil: we shall see. surge going on with bernie thank you, dan. much more after this. sanders, right, you know, we had colorado senator bennett on, also one of those compete i'm tell us how much you have, and how long you need it to last. we'll estimate how much you could spend. then you can decide how you'll spend it. schwab manages the complexity with automated, wondering despite being stuck in washington dealing with all of tax-smart withdrawals. that you can start, stop or adjust at any time with no penalties. this he emerges the western in and you pay no advisory fee. schwab intelligent income. iowa and in new hampshire, it changes the equation? >> it certainly does, bernie is schwab. a modern approach to wealth management. a force to be dealt here and as far as the other senators that are going to be stuck in washington, d.c., this is a case of be careful what you wish for, all of them were in favor of impeachment, now what happens, it ends up backfiring to some extent because they will get stuck in washington, now let's also not forget this is not a good thing for donald trump even if it's not going to move the scale significantly because it's a distraction, there's impact on the new cycle where we would

want or donald trump would want to be talking a lot more about the trade deals and the economy and other things, he is naturally going to be in a position to have to defend himself for a period of time, so i don't think this is good for democratic senators. i also don't think it's good for donald trump and it definitely gives joe biden an advantage, i think, for the next -- neil: you learned from the bill clinton impeachment, a good economy, strong market is a nice some things are too important to do yourself. ♪ backdrop to have, right, it's get customized security the same thing this president with 24/7 monitoring from xfinity home. awarded the best professionally installed system by cnet. simple. easy. awesome. call, click or visit a store today. enjoys, nice backdrop to have. >> it's important because he's not wildly popular, it's very important that the economy stay strong and for democrats i think they are having some trouble because they have not realized what we know from the research which is that they need to make sure they are clear that the economy is strong and fight this on other issues like was done in

1976, like was done in 2000, opposition parties can win in a good economy but you can't pretend the economy is bad. you have to refocus on things like the environment and other issues that other voters care a lot about. neil: was the reason they lost the house was health care and that they were able to find an issue that they galvanize around, what do you see -- >> look, there's no question that the good economy is good for the president, it was for obama, it's going to be for trump going into the election. the electorate going to be thinking only of that, no, they are going to be thinking of impeachment and scandal in the white house, about the president's character and there's a feeling in the country also that, look, is this the america that i want, the language from the white house, the lies from the white house, is this -- is this the america

that i want and i think that you saw that reflected in 2018 election, not just health care, but -- neil: it's not just the economy, stupid, they say two can play at this game, who does it hurt more? >> well, i think this >> all right, the 2020 women's impeachment ultimately is going to hurt the democrats because i march is underway right now across the country. think people are for the most it's the fourth year in row they are doing this. part tone deaf, they are tired of this, it's clearly partisan jacqui heinrich is there with the very, very latest, jackie. all the way through, i think >> hey, neil, this year's theme trump will talk about that quite a bit that it's a witch hunt, is rise and roar. although last year the women's that obviously plays to his base march split into two groups, quite well, in terms of people i talk to, they are not paying dogged by allegations of attention to impeachment at all, anti-semitism and criticism it was too white, the two sides are it's like it's not even going on presenting an election year in because -- neil: even with musical intros. the manhattan marching toward each other. one march is starting lower [laughter] >> other than watching your manhattan making its way uptown show, neil, they're literally and the other heads south. not paying any attention. there are marches happening in washington d.c., chicago, neil: i understand. denver, philadelphia and los >> i'm not sure, neil, that i angeles and allied groups

reportedly marching in nigeria, agree with this. it's hard to tell what the germany, spain, belgium. american people are thinking in they're marching for causes, total. in this case impeachment is climate and reproductive rights added to a pool of concerns that and they took a poll and america has about the direction identified those causes as the of the country and the tone of most important for them. the country, again, i think that although the turnout is expected to be lower this year than in you saw that reflected in the year's past. 2018 wins by the democrats in organizers in d.c. filed a permit for only 10,000 the house particularly and protesters. this serves a reminder how impeachment, though, the people may not be looking at the important it is to vote in details of impeachment, they kind of feel this divisiveness november, especially after president trump ordered the and it's not just all politics, there's some legitimate concerns killing qasem soleimani and about the president's behavior. sparked fears that this >> here is the thing, we already president bring this country to know the outcome, he's not going war. >> we want to unify cities and to be removed from office, people, this is like reading the book from the last chapter and get everything out to perpetuate that's why people are losing the message. interest. >> and it's by a woman, women, neil: it's early, the strong when we are united we're market, the president should be successful. >> this year is different from up double digits. we will see. years past. weather creating havoc for it doesn't have high profile

speakers and they're expected to travelers, in the roads and skies, this is something that we march along. >> thank you, jackie. cannot blame donald trump, let's in the meantime, do not miss the just say for one out of 3 bill hemmer report that debuts 3 americans a lot. p.m. monday eastern time one hour before your world. i know the anchor to that show and i know bill hemmer. both nice guys. and not only the fallout from the protests today, but ironically occurring the same day that we're getting word for all the key demographic groups, including women, you're looking at record low unemployment issues. don't be surprised if you hear they count the economic reality something that's pounded through some of the candidates who are going to park themselves in washington in the middle of the protests for the impeachment hearings. the tug and the push and pull on that, we've got that covered for you on fox business, which if you don't get, you should demand it, but enough of that. fa fox news continues.

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see blizzard conditions on the ground blowing around, you also notice the windchill, towards canada and arctic, diving down >> two key impeachment med in central plains, minus 17 in lines today. lawmakers on capitol hill will submit and publicly release a house trial brief by 5 p.m. the white house must issue their answer to the official articles of impeachment, just an hour soux city. later, by no later than 6 p.m. watch out tonight, might feel tonight. we're tracking all of that live like minus 11, tomorrow in chicago single digits, feel like for you here at america's news temperatures cold all the way headquarters in washington. towards areas of great lakes and i'm gillian turner. northeast for monday as well, here is the storm behind it, leland, it's great to be with you. >> it's a saturday, but very that's where the blizzard much a workday here in the warnings are in effect, the wind will be kicking off the snow and nation's capital. now we have winter weather i'm leland vittert. advisories all across the northeast for the most part we will be watching snow move in from philadelphia towards new york and boston throughout the afternoon tonight and we will see warmer air move in and we will see rain mixing in creating big flushy mess and after that

the colder air comes in that will freeze some of that back up, so pretty big mess on our hands, we will be watching maybe 2 to 6-inches of snow cross interior sections, coastal areas, maybe 1, 2, 3, not huge for us, but when we haven't had any kind of winter, be out there for a lot of people. neil: surprise move from iran with black boxes or ukrainian jet they accidentally shot down, more afterma this you're pete nocchio? oh, the pic? that was actually a professional headshot. i'm sure that's it, yeah. i, uh, i think i've lost a few pounds recently too. i'm actually doing a juice cleanse. wait! you don't... (glass breaking) (gasp) ah! oh...! with geico, the savings keep on going. just like this sequel. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance.

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neil: all right, iran says now it will indeed send the black boxes from the ukrainian jetliner that it accidentally shot down to ukraine, greg palkock from ukraine, hey, greg. >> yeah, interesting information, neil, the news coming from the news agency in

iran, they say iranian official is claiming that the black boxes recovered last week will be sent to ukraine, there it is reported data from the crash, remember left 176 people dead will be examined by experts from canada, france and the united states. now admits it made a terrible, terrible mistake, meanwhile more reaction to sermon on friday, ayatollah leader, comments from him he described the u.s. as clowns, arrogant and cowardly and as you can imagine president trump fired back. their economy is crashing, their people are suffering, he should be very careful with his words and, neil, we are getting another report about something from president trump last night

at a fundraiser, he recounted the last minutes before the killing of top general qassem soleimani, he was saying bad things about our country. back to you. neil: retired air force general david, general, a couple of things to go over, not just the language we are getting out of iran but in iraq the requests per normal orderly process to withdraw american troops, albeit from a caretaker or government but still, what do we do, what do we say in response? >> well, neil, what i would tell you is our actions need to be taken in the context of what our national security interests are and what our national security strategy is and i will tell you that the strategy consists of 3 elements, first to constrain, if you will, the malign behavior of

iran in the region, second to reduce iranian influence in the sovereign iraqi government and third to deter iran in the region, so what we do needs to be done in context of 3 elements, now, at the same time there's overlapping common interest between iraq and the united states, and it's because we have some common objectives, the first one is to ensure their sovereignty and prevent influence of iran from turning them into a puppet state and the second one resurgence of the islamic state and with those two common interests it is going to be interesting to see how this unfolds because, yeah, there have been a lot of talk about removing u.s. soldiers and active duty military personnel but we will have to see when and where and if any actual

diplomatic official request to do that actually come out. neil: general, while i have you here, sir, i'm curious what you make of now various videos that seem to show not only one missile to take down this ukrainian plane but 2 and it raises growing concern that this wasn't some accident on the part of the iranians, what do you think? >> i'm really glad that you brought that up because people have been talking about, well, this was an accident, listen, it's not an accident, you know, when a human being in a missile launch control center takes an action to initiate the launch of not just one but two missiles, now, i will tell you that's pretty much standard protocol in -- given the probability of a hit in these kinds of missile systems to launch 2 but it

wasn't an accident, it was done intentionally, it may have been a misidentification but that just points to incompetence of the iranian military and missile battery commanders, you have to be kidding me, this is an aircraft that was departing the region, not coming inbound or acting in any kind of hostile manner, so it was gross negligence and incompetence, indicater of the status or the lack of professionalism in the iranian military. neil: general, thank you very much and for your service to this great country. >> thank you. neil: we are watching very closely, also keeping an eye on elizabeth warren she's speaking right now in des moines, iowa ahead of iowa caucuses the senators in this race have precious little time to state their case before they are to glue their hinnies to washington

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an association of rudy giuliani. >> i smell a rat here, the guy is crooked as a snake and we're not going to slow down this trial. >> the new documents shed more light on allegations the members of the trump administration pressured ukraine about joe biden. and showed parnas and an aid to devin nunes, and leading defender of the president. and it showed that harvey and parnas were working to arrange interviews with ukrainians who alleged wrongdoing by the bidens. last night they took aim the top republican. >> when you've tiptoed right up to the line of basically calling him un-american and-- >> moscow midge. >> and you know -- [applause] >> in a lot of ways he's done more damage than trump has, i know he's a constitutionalist

that violates the constitutional, not allowing merrick garland, obama's supreme court pick to even have a hearing. >> well, let me say this, and that is, if they were to write the book, all the president's men, as they did about the other impeachment. >> sure. >> it would be called all the president's henchmen. >> senator ted cruz laid out the next steps. >> their legal teams will stand up, present their case, make their arguments, put forward whatever evidence they want in those arguments and then will move to questions from senators that we write down and the chief justice asks for us. after all of that is completed. >> it's quiet here on capitol hill, but expect the activity to pick up ahead of that 5 p.m. deadline, neil. neil: lucas, thank you very much. lucas tomlinson in the rotunda in washington d.c. how is the senate preparing for this? let's ask republican senator bill cassidy from the beautiful state of louisiana.

senator, it's interesting how biases abouter receive. democrats who say that republicans are in the hip pocket of the president. but then of course, you heard what nancy pelosi had to say on bill mauer and that goes unchecked. allowing for that, how do you guys go the extra mile to prove this is how you do it without looking like you're going to do the president's bidding? >> yes, when you look at the basic argument. did the president withhold funds beyond a mandatory date of release to the ukrainians. of course right now we know he had to release it by the end of september. he released those funds by september the 12th. there's going to be a lot of what i call monkey dust, people throwing dust around trying to distract from what is the crux of the issue. if we look at the crux and remain focused on that crux, we'll establish whether or not the president did something illegal or not. neil: do you want witnesses, especially there's been a big

fuss over lev parnas, this confidante of rudy giuliani and sort of spilling the beans on everybody. wouldn't you want to question, find out, wait a minute, what's going on here? we want to find out exactly where you're getting this, how you're getting this, that it would be in your interest or the president's interest to grill him? >> let's step back just a little bit, neil, and recognize that what we have here is not just a trial, if you will, it's also a process of democracy. the house is supposed to build an impeachment case, send it to the senate which then judges that impeachment case. if you lower that threshold, the house can mash up anything and take this kind of messy ball and hand it to the senate and then hopefully stretch it out closer to an election cycle, we can then ask the senate to build a case that the house did not do so. my bias so far is that the house should have built a case. if there's more information that they didn't include, why didn't

you include it, but it's not our responsibility to build the case that you did not. we'll see. we'll have a vote on witnesses, and at that point the question will arise, but that's how i initially approach this. we shouldn't lower the threshold. the house is required to achieve in order to impeach a president. i think that's what they're asking us to do. neil: what if there are new developments, senator, and like it or not, you have to address them. the government accountability report that says the president acted illegally, violated the law when he was freezing military aid ever so briefly, but did do so, that the gao said a faithful execution of the law does not allow the president to substitute his own priorities for those that congress enacted into law or separately weigh in on the ukraine investigation whether a former ambassador there was indeed is your veiled or as i said at the outset, the

parvas comments. or what mcconnell would think is a quick impeachment trial. >> i'm a doctor and i focus on the critical thought. the critical thought, were the funds released by the time they were released. what the gao says is an interpretation of events, it's not a new development. there may be new things and we'll vote on witnesses. what i said earlier we can't lower the threshold. if we lower the threshold how this is going to work, whenever we have a president of one party and a house of representatives of the other, we'll go from impeachment being something that happens three times in our nation's history to something that happens whenever there's a president of one party and a speaker of the other. we have to keep this threshold high, the house should build a case, frankly, they had time to do it, they chose not to exercise that time. neil: are you saying that if

some of your colleagues want witnesses, that's a big mistake? >> no, i'm not saying that, we'll have a vote on that and i think it will become apparent what's going on by then. neil: so if the rules-- all you need are 50-- i'm sorry, sir. if all it takes is 51 is senators to approve witnesses and we go that route, i talked to senator van holland of maryland on this issue who said that, you know, be careful what you wish for kind of thing. this is what the senator had to say. >> in any normal trial a judge would call relevant fact witnesses, witnesses with information directly relevant to the case. joe biden has zero information about president trump's decision making in the white house to withhold the aid from ukraine and all of the trump administration's efforts to get ukraine to interfere in our election. he just doesn't have any testimony. neil: all right. so what he was saying, if witnesses start and republicans

maybe you feel the same way, would want to talk to joe biden and/or his son hunter, it's not going to happen. if it's a quid pro quo, i know that phrase is overused, senator, they say no to that, then it sounds like we'll have no witnesses, period? right? >> so van holland is clearly a partisan and van holland wants the president impeached. let's look at someone, jonathan turley on the left of the political spectrum, but thinks the house does not have a case and he also has said if there are witnesses called, he actually does think that the bidens would be material. so, putting aside van holland's incredible partisanship, no one is more partisan than he and take someone objective, and if there's witnesses, he thinks we should bring in the bidens, this cuts both way and i you go back to the crux, did the president release the funds by the time he was by law was required to do so, the answer is clearly yes. we'll go back to the basic fact

and go from there. neil: is a quicker impeachment trial the better route to go or if it drags on, the more problematic route for both parties? >> i think it's-- it is so important to get this over with. we need to be working on how do we lower the cost of insulin for the diabetic. how do we do things positive for the veterans in the united states? keep in mind, as long as we're doing impeachment, we can do nothing else. so any hope we have to address the surprise medical billing, something i've worked on on bipartisan basis in the house and senate to get something done, we don't get done as long as we're focused on this. i think we need to get through it, focus on the people's business and then we have an election in nine months where the people can judge-- the american people can judge president trump themselves. senator cassidy, great seeing you again, thank you for taking the time on a saturday. >> thank you, neil. neil: all right. senator cassidy. all right, i want to take you back to iowa right now.

this is a who's who of the democratic candidates running for president and the front runner right now in national polls, he could do well in iowa, speaking in west domain-- west des moines, iowa the former vice-president of the united states. if they want to hear from john bolton or other names in the press, they want to hear from him, they want to hear from his son, democrats are saying that's not going to happen and something the vice-president is probably not going to bring up in the stump speech today, but we're monitoring it. >> i would argue an awful lot of patience and love. when you shop with wayfair,

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