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relishing his recenten turn of e spotlight. he seems to have been taking a break for mr. mccarthy impression which he repeatedly announces political opponents as agents of the russian government and he's now trying a new role as a tough but lovable dean of students. schiff spent the entire day delivering a lecture about the perils of cheating, like america was suddenly the world's largest middle school. f watch. >> by inviting foreign interference and cheating in an election, to cheat in an election for precisely this reason, helping him cheat in the next election. to cheat in our elections, should we just get over it? it's kind of cheating, really, if were going to be honest about it and blatant about it, cheating. in other words, to cheat. >> tucker: keep your eyes on your own paper, class. but schiff didn't stay in character for long. at one point he seemed to switch abruptly from mr. chips to dr. strangelove. the night it states, schiff explain as to the 19 viewers

still watching confused, "age of crane and her people so that we can fight russia f over there ad we don't have to fight russia here." huh? is putin planning to invade the home and? 's milwaukee safety mike to unseen slavic saboteurs move among us? what does adam schiff know about world war iii that the rest of us don't know? unfortunately, no one on cnn or msnbc thought to ask him that. they were too deep in bliss. to the mouth breeders on cable television and adam schiff speech is like a brainstem massage. surging waves of ecstasy flood the central nervous system. linear thought ceases. all that's left are satisfied grunts of pleasure. >> a very, very powerful and forceful speech, almost two and a half hours by adam schiff mother very, verye strong case from adam schiff.

>> it was a very coherent, cohesive narrative. something at the white house doesn't have.he >> this is a speech really aimed at th the dash i think adam schf did a really great job. >> what did you think of the presentation by the lead house manager adam schiff? >> i thought it wass dazzling. >> tucker: we want to apologize to any viewers under 18 who may have just watched that. it was lavishly pornographic and not suitable for children. viewers of the show last night had to endure an exceedingly long speech by congressman hakeem jeffries of new york, a so-called impeachment manager. judging by his title you might imagine mr. jeffries is some sort of statesman, figure in the political realm. not so. in fact, he's a joke and not only that, but a race later. watch this. >> the president of the united states chose to pull the seats off and reveal himself in terms of his tendency to be a

racial arsonist, fanning the flames of hatred, excepting assistance from a hostile foreign powers like russia is treasonousus behavior. >> the president of the united states is a dangerous con artist. >> it seems that the trump campaign conspired with russian spies to sellout our democracy. we do know that ever racist in america voted for>> donald trum. >> we have a hater in the white house. the grand wizard of 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> tucker: now wait a second. so the president is not only a klansman, but also an active russian spy. athat's quite a combination. under normal circumstances a claim like that by a sitting member of congress will be headline news.ic as it was, nobody seemed to notice. it's normal now, they are all extremist, they will say absolutely anything. for example, an actual u.s. sitting senator from hawaii

telling you it's ludicrous, maybe even a sign ofig mental illness to believe that impeachment has been in the works since 2016. >> they are still saying that we were out to get the president from day one, some kind of a weird conspiracy theory that i have to say even kavanaugh brought up. they really believe this stuff, i find it incredible. >> tucker: it's a credible, it's just a weird conspiracy theory, just like when people said the federal food pyramid was backward and carbs didn't really make you thin. or those wackos that claimed that iraq had no weapons of mass destruction or for that matter, that ufos were real. just pure insanity like that. impeachment in the works for years, you have to be a not to believe that. unfortunately nobody passed theh talking points to democrat al green, so he just went ahead and admitted it. >> well, the genesis of impeachment, to be very candid with you, was when the president was running for office. >> tucker: hoops. some of the accident when told

the truth, don't worry, it won'a happen again tonight, but you've got to love a man who talks with his eyes closed. at the core of the democratic case against the administration is the claim that trauma and the people whofl work for him are flouting the law. government accountability office report makes several allegations to that effect. okay. let's add some's perspective to that. how, for example, does this at administration prepare to the one it replaced? he chaired the house oversight committee during the obama years and then he retired. he's not running for congress once again from california and he joins us tonight. thanks so much for comingng on. >> thanks for having me on. it's good to see you, even if it's remotely. >> tucker: it is. but this is something that you are almost in a unique position to answer. so the idea that they had administration plot of the law, that's being debated on the senate and on the other foot cable channels. taking a step back and asking to the claims against this administration -- how do they

stack up against what happened in the last? >> well, seven times there were requests to get a gao study and seven times they found that the obama administration violated a number of laws related to their spending. one of the most egregious was actually when the epa was found not just toha have spent it appropriately, but to have violated the lobbying and the propaganda law, anti-propaganda laws, meaning they spend your tax dollars trying to influence an election. so these things happen and in all seven cases, the obama administration was found by the gao to have violated not once did a member of congress then say let's impeach him for it. even though in the case of a couple of the examples like the bird-dog exchange, which was a violation of the law, the president was directly involved. this is the double standard.

it's not that presidents don't do things that technically there is some rule against, if that they are suddenly finding this to be acceptable to impeach somebody for, the same as the other charge, which is obstruction of congress. imagine how many times president obama said no, i won't give you the information. we went through subpoenas, went to court.. in the case of fast and furious we did it for more than half of his administration. before we finally got all the documents. >> tucker: is a fast and furious, that was the scandal in which the obama administration allowed a flood into illegal firearms into mexico. the result being that people were murdered. that's not speculation or some conspiracycy theory, that happ happened. and was there -- was there an active effort to impeach president obama over that? >> not at all. we held the attorney general in contempt. we went to court. we got a judge, oddly enough, appointed by president obama to agree with us and eventually we got theot documents. certainly ie would like to have gotten the documents faster but

there's a process in america which is if the two branches of government disagree about the discoverability of something, you go to the court and you get it resolved. this administration has been no different than the last at administration for climbing from time to time privilege. the difference is they've gone into impeachment over what we otherwise would have gone to court ove over. >> tucker: right. just to be clear to viewers, there's not an attempt to excuse away wrongdoing w by anybody ift occurred. it's an attempt to make the point that this is a departure from the way things normally operate. you're watching the destruction of our institutions. this is a massive change, correct? >> absolutely and a follow-up, in the case of fast and furious, when we did get those documents, where president obama had claimed executive privilege, thousands of them not only didn't fall under privilege, but they pulled back their claim of

privilege, meaning the president wrongly used executive privilege to deny us documents for more thanoc a year. >> tucker: i remember. .>> certainly could have said let's impeach him, but that's not historically what we do. but we do is we let the people eof america decide in the next election. >> tucker: that's exactly right. this is very different from what we've seen before and it sets a precedent i don't like anyone is going to want to live with and i appreciate the perspective you bring to that. great to see you. >> thanks. >> tucker: what does this mean? you get caught up in this, you watch the stuff on tv and perspective can evaporate. sok to bring it back we know exactly who to turn to, we always do, victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution, he joins us tonight. professor, you've been watching this, you're a historian. what does it make you think? >> well, i mean here we are, tucker, after the whole mueller number 22 months, $32 million, the green team, the all-stars,

no collusion they found. we have michael horowitz, inspector general, no collusion, with the fbi operate crossfire hurricane, no collusion. yet they're talking about collusion. and russian collusion. so what's going on? is no special counsel report. there's no bipartisan support. there's no public support. crime.e is specific so that brings us to the second level of analysis, what's the strategy? they know we don't really have the case. my guess, they feel that if they can get on tv, maybe john bolton might flip, maybe? or hail mary or maybe they can get four or five senators to support trump and that will hurt them on their vote in the next november and they can flip the senate or maybe they think they can embarrass from, but it's a referendum on how pessimistic they are about the 2,020 chances. apparently they don't think the new green deal or reparations or a wealth tax or sanders or warren as candidates or michael bloomberg, they're not going to be competitive.

maybe that's theyb strategy, but whatever it is, it's bizarre, because they're taking a lot of risks because after the emoluments clause and stormy daniels in the 25th amendment and mueller and all of the stuff, people are sick of it and they want to call witnesses and i don't think hunter biden will be very advantageous for it and it's beginning to look like an enfeebled joe biden is the only real viable candidate, so you want to know what the strategy is andd then finally in the last level of analysis, historically i think 2,020 marks a watershed year in american history because from now on when a president loses his majority -- the majority in the house, especially in his first term, impeachment is going to be a vote of no confidence, it's going to be a political weapon and it's going to be used against the president and does a lot of collateral damage. we destroy the whole idea of a whistle-blower, it doesn't exist anymore. you can remain anonymous, you can have second or third hand knowledge. you can collude with the opposition party beforet' you go to inspector general and that's

going to be permissible. the fisa court is totally discredited, so what schiff and nadler and pelosi have done is they have a lot of collateral damage and i don't think they're going to put it all back together. i think we are in a new era of american history and it's going to be pretty scary. >> tucker: i wonder if the members of congress who are leading this understand that. some of them are older and will be retiring. some of them will stay. they going to want to participate in this system that's so dysfunctional that it just doesn't work at all to which is where we are going. >> i think they're in some kind of cocoon. i think they just watch msnbc or cnn or they talk to washington bureaucrats or they go for a drink in washington, but they have no idea how this plays in fresno or, you know,w, des moin. they have no idea what people are, looking at this, they are saying wow, we got all these problems with debt without problems with health care, got problems in foreign policy and

more than x essential crisis with iran and north korea and we are standing up with china and this is what we get? it's at the level -- this whole thing is of the level of michael antonetti and stormy daniels again. they can't sense what they're doing to the country. >> tucker: no, their nominating or they're trying to nominate a guy who is a show for the credit card companies, to tell you out of touch they are. thanks so much for that, i appreciate always. >> thank you. >> tucker: terms of the president is not the only victim of the impeachment trial. of course you t are, if you hava television. it's in your living room. but democrats are using it to help joe biden but they're using it also to hurt bernie sanders. that effort appears to have failed, in fact backfired. dana perino has contacts for that next. plus government for thena impeachment trial will continue, sadly the man who prays arlie claimed that we carry water for the kremlin is now speaking. adam schiff.

how will history record his efforts this week? we will be right back.it >> the vice president, the ukrainian delegation. it's not like in front of all those people the vice president is going to bring it up and so sondland goes up and his counterpart right after that on the sidelines of that meeting and he says basically you ain't getting the money until you do the investigation. ♪

♪ >> tucker: as you may have noticed if you live in this t country the president's impeachment trial is underway. we are monitoring it tonight for any highlights, any breaking news. one senator was watching the trial is presidential candidate

bernie sanders of vermont. over the last two weeks whenever the press hasn't been pushing impeachment, they've been attacking sanders on behalf of elizabeth warren andar joe biden and the democratic establishment more precisely. much like impeachment, the attack seems to be backfiring completely, here is no evidence. a cnn poll out today shows sanders leaving joe biden by three points nationwide, 27-24%, no other candidate has come close. in other words, by attacking bernie sanders, jeff zucker appears to have made in the front runner. and that shouldn't surprise you. burning was the most blatant political hit since jeffrey epstein. dana perino hosts the daily briefing with dana perino and she joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. >> thanks for making me laugh on impeachmentmp day. >> tucker: well, it's true, as i watched that cnn debate -- and of course being cnn, they are taking orders, right,, from soccer and they were told kill bernie, and i watch this and i thought this is going to turn the left against the media and i think it may have. >> well, you know, it was pretty interesting to watch how many

people would be not aligned with bernie sanders on politics, but to see how unfair that attack was, then defending him and jesse watters, our colleague, he told me the other day he ran into some burning people and they said we know who you are and he says but we want you to know fox's been fair to bernie sanders. cnn has not appeared that just happened the other day and jesse watters elevator even, so course it has to be true. but yes i think bernie sanders, i think i t that paul -- will sf it's a trend, might be a little bit of an outlier but there's no doubt that he has amassed some power and the whole thing this week was with hillary clinton saying that bernie sanders isn't likable, that nobody likes him. he doesn't care about being liked. he's actually loved. and that's where you see thet organizations that is happening, especially in iowa, that shows him increasing his support there. and he would rather be loved than likes. who wants to be respected, most of all he wants to be followed. he's been saying the same stuff for 50 years and his ride has

corresponded with elizabeth warren's fall. >> tucker: i've got to say that her claim that bernie sanders is unlikable did seem lacking in self-awareness. i don't assume that otheral peoe are talking too loud for example because it does seem like casting stones. you've got to wonder though if you'rede a democrat running for president, the most obvious fact of this moment is everyone's mad at the people in charge. the establishment is discredited. so i would want want to tie yourselves to it? >> well also -- i do think that the burning people have been mad at the dnc for a long time. i think that it was rigged against him. in a lot of ways bernie is the mirror candidate for the democrats to president trump. dismissed by the pundits, only liked by the french. the establishment doesn't like them and he just keeps amassing power and support, but i do think that he has a ceiling. whereas others might not. but we'll see. i think in some ways you think that the trump people -- they put it out there that they think

bernie would be the easiest to beat. i don't know. if you've got fashion -- i guess it is possible. i watchnd a program you make soe really good points about how the left is just really divided rightig now. i don't see howis they put this all back together. i was not going to solve it for them. there could be three or four winners out of iowa based on their new rules, which the dnc changed in order to help people like bernie sanders. >> tucker: people in washington are so dumb in their political analysis -- i'm sorry, i've been here my whole life, i can say it. they're so dumb i can hear them say so-and-so could never win, that is going to win because i listen to it for a year and half with drum. dana perino, not dump and we are always -- >> tucker: the democratic party and the water carriers in the national media are averagely determined to destroy bernie, he's a threat to them but sanders for some reason isn't fighting back very hard. for example, when sanders' surrogate called joe biden corruptnd in op-ed and of course to biden's corrupt, sanders didn't stand by her, instead he

apologized. >> joe biden as a friend of mine, i've known him for many, many years, he's a very decent guy and joe and i have strong disagreements on a number a of issues and we will argue those disagreements but it is absolutely not my view that joe is corrupt in any way. >> tucker: so what's your view on joe biden essentially taking bribes from the credit card companies, which are working your life? he folded, and he did the same thing four years ago when he refused to attack hillary clinton over her email scandal, or really anythingemep else. he gave her a pass, how did she repay him? by attacking sanders and his supporters as sexist while suggesting that millions who backed him are a bunch of "nobodies." a journalist at the gray zone, one of our favorite guests, joins us tonight. great to see it in a period two things, do you think that sanders' recent rise, and we'll see if it sustains, but it's real, is the result of the establishment on the democratic side coalescing against h him? >> well certainly the fact that

they're talking about him for the first time it helping him because people are hearingim hi. it was essentially a media blackout for years in 2016. they wanted to ignore him and pretend he didn't exist. hillary was the queen, she needed to be crowned, but now the people are hearing him, they like him. and so they've launched these attacks and i can't speak asak o why sanders won't attack them. i think it's as though he didn't learn anythinghi from watching four years of president trump. in the u.s. public actually likes it when someone stands up for what they believe and especially when they're an outsider. and there's obviously a concerted effort on behalf of the liberal -- neoliberal establishment of the democratic party to push sanders to throw his progressive surrogates like that under the bus so that at the end of the day his campaign stands for nothing. it's the same tactic they used against jeremy corbyn in the labour party where they attacked him relentlessly, accused him of being an anti-semite and then he didn't fight back and if you don't fight back and you throw your friends under y the bus, you're alone at the end of the day. speeone's of

"the new york times," which really is or always was, anyway, the organ of the democratic establishment, i think it still is. they really have led the charge against sanders, particularly their endorsements. >> absolutely incredible. i subjected myself to watching the the reality show "the new york times" put together of their endorsement conversations saying they want transparency, which i think is great, as my colleague at the gray zone said i think a lot of thisou is like more transparentf in "the new york times" as to why the support disastrous regime change wars in latin america and all over the i world. but i don't know why they don't want to sit on those conversations, but it was absolutely stunning to hear out of the entire room only one person, the editorial board was given each two votes, sanders is only mentioned once. they voted for bloomberg the same amount of times they voted for sanders, and that's because while no one listens to "the new york times" actually to make the voting decisions, it does offer a window into the identity crisis by the new york

corporate ruling class at the momentea and really trying to revive this centrist corporate conformist neoliberal imperialnd frankenstein and vampire, which has been sucking the country in the world drive for decades now, people are rejecting it, so their inclination was to go for warren, but they knew that they had to pretend to care about the middle of the country, so they went for amy klobuchar as well. and then didn't discuss any issues when they were actually making the decision, i just made vague comments about electability and then when they did talk about issues, they praised amy klobuchar for her vote on the wars in syria and libya while meanwhile this week in berlin, 12 world leaders are meeting in order to figuree out how to clean up the mess the obama administration made. >> tucker: that's exactly right. >> it so they haven't learned that the country is rejecting them. >> tucker: always support those politics other than "the new york times" -- i wish we had more time, it's always a happy day when you're here, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: impeachment is putting the chief justice of the

supreme court in the spotlight.p senator josh hawley clerked for him once, he will join us to react to what happened. just ahead as our current of thi impeachment trial continues throughout the hour. this guy is still talking. will be right back. ♪ >> these fine lawyers over here want to persuade you that call didn't happen. that wasn't said or all he said was no quid pro quo. he never said, but you all he said was more quid pro quo. you have to go to the mic and you have to want to do yan it. ♪

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>> tucker: a f >> tucker: coming in on a fox news alert, the presidents impeachment trial is continuing tonight, it's been going on all day in the united states senate. what exactly happened that we should know about and what can we expect in the days to come? for those answers returned to texas congressman john ratcliffe, who has assisted the president's impeachment team throughout all of this. he joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. >> senator van: mi be done much on my >> were to be with you. >> today was really boring but the president's defense team is really happy. we're happy the democrats decided to take a really bad program that they want to rent house, one at that terrible ratings with the american people and they are rerunning it over in the senate right now. so we're listening to the exact same argument that they made before that fell flat a few months ago. and i think that the american people f see this for what it i,

which is a disingenuous attack on the president. i mean, the democrats keep saying our case is overwhelming, the evidence is indisputable and now over in the senate are saying but we need more eviden evidence. so i think people see through that, i think you're already tired of this. unfortunately this is going to continue for the next two days, it's not going to get interesting until the president's team finally gets a chance to pretense their argument. >> tucker: that is>>ke when? speakk it will be friday late or saturday is when it will start. and i think what your viewers don't know is that the president's lawyers have been forbidden from participating in this process over in the house. 78 they impeachment inquiry, the president's council was forbidden from participating for the first 71 of the 78 day process. so the american people are going to be hearing new arguments from the president's team starting possibly -- >> tucker: impossible to know but i just have to finish by asking, do you expect to hold all republican members of the

senate? >> i expect to hold all republican numbers and to pick democrats. >> tucker: if that happens -- i mean, it seems like it could, what was the point of all of this? >> to dirty up the president, to influence the senate races, to make senators take tough votes, to beat up the president, to hopefully influence his chances.n this is going to be -- the president's arguments as theyew are presented in american people, as upset over the last few days going to be like killing a fly with a sledgehammer. this impeachment fails factually, legally, constitutionally. there's nothing there. our mutual friend andy mccarthy said it best. he says this is the seinfeld impeachment. if the impeachment were nothing happen, with the president had a call when he asked for nothing and he received nothing. and unfortunately it's just been a political circus that the democrats keep playing out. >> tucker: that's the first stomach was part of it, it's postmodern.

congressman, thank you. >> you bet. >> tucker: chief justice john roberts is overseeing the impeachment trial. in a remarkable moment that occurred early this morning, late last night, roberts became fed up with three knee exchanges to announce to impeachment managers and the president's defense team. >> i think it is appropriate at this point for me to admonish both the house managers and the president's counsel in equal terms to remember that they are addressing thegr world's greatet deliberative body. i don't think we need to aspire to that high a standard, but i do think those addressing the senate could tell mike should where they are. >> tucker: senator josh hawley of missouri was in the senate when that happened. he also wants clerked for the chief justice so he has a full perspective on it. he stepped out of the trail about an hour ago to talk to us briefly about what he saw.ap >> you were there when that happened, when the chief justice scolded the people talking on the floor. what did you make of it, what did that mean? >> well, it's really extraordinary.

i can say somebody was actually worked for john roberts, i've never seen him do that before from any bench that i've seen him sit on and it was really -- it was very pointed. it followed immediately mr. nadler's comments to the senate which he said if senators didn't vote for his amendment than we were committing treachery. that was his word, that we were voting against the united states. i mean, it's really extraordinary to basically accuse senators of treason. i'm not sure what the application was supposed to be except that we are being unpatriotic by not agreeing to their dilatory tactics, and by the way, this was at like 12:30 at night. they have been going on for 12 hours just to delay about nothing, just to delay and i thought the chief justice really put them on the spot. >> tucker: is not surprising, this is a guy, nadler, who has accused his political opponents for working for a foreign government and betraying the country, so he'll say anything. my question is what is the point of this exactly? a display like that, it doesn't seem to me helps democrats. why are they doing it this way? >> i think that -- listen, they are playing to their base. that's really what this is all

about. they are playing to the msnbc cameras. at one point adam schiff actually said that -- listen, people are still watching in california. this was about 11:00 p.m. and he said i think maybe some people are still watching in california, so this is just playing to the base. >> tucker: here's what confuses me, senator, if you're watching the stuff on msnbc as you said at one in the morning, you're already convinced the democrats don't need to win you over. so are they expanding their constituency by doing this? it seems like they're scaring some people in the process. >> i don't think this is about expanding constituency at all, i think they already know how this is going to come out and they are just messaging for it. i think it actually nadler's comments l last night where he accused the of participating in a cover-up -- that's what they're going to say, he just got there too soon. that's what they believe, that's how they're going to message it. they're not interested in trying their case, they're not even trying to put on evidence, they don't have any evidence as it's become clear today, this is all about spin. >> tucker: i mean, you clerked for supreme court justice. understand this process. if you understand constitution.

i'm trying to take this seriously because i'm an american and i believe in our basic systems, but this seems a mockery to me. >> well, you know i thought the thing that really to me emerged in today's arguments that's interesting is schiff actually standing up and saying you can't trust elections in the united states. he said in 2016 the president cheated, not legitimate. he said the 2020 election may not beru legitimate, may not be able to trusted and therefore you have to protect democracy by overturning elections. if that's theo argument. it's no wonder they don't want to have this child. >> tucker: they accused him of o undermining confidence in our institution. amazing. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it, senator. >> thank you. t >> tucker: this whole impeachment trial appears to be designed to help joe biden. but biden seems determined to sabotage himself with lunatic statements on topics like immigration. we will tell you what he said ngnext, plus we continue to monitor what's going on in the senate tonight is theus

impeachment trial continues. >> quid pro quo from the white house meeting at a subsequent to there was a quid pro quo for the security assistance as well. as confirmed by president trump 'us direction to him on september 7th. ♪

>> little pencil neck adam schiff. he's got the smallest, thinnest neck i've ever seen. >> tucker: congressman schiff and president trump are friends, we're not going to lie to you, but in the president impeachment trial, no matter how mad schiff may be, we already know it's going to happen. but romney may vote to convict, but in the end the president will be acquitted anyway. nobody doubts that. at nancy pelosi, not mitch mcconnell, not even adam schiff h and his -- most of

the time. the real question about impeachment at this point is who or who will not publicly testify before this trial ends. would be nice to hear from some people specifically hunter biden, his arrangement with burisma, the ukrainian energy company. it's at the very heart ofth the story, the president wanted to investigate that arrangement because it was so obviously corrupt and that caused impeachment. but adam schiff adam schiff isn't interested in hearing from hunter biden in public. he'll call you a putin stooge if you are. but if you take millions of dollars from a company in a foreign country and then yo your dad fires thatnt country's top prosecutor, it's not a big deal says adam schiff and he's been totally honest about why he doesn't care. watch. >> are you open to a witness exchange so that republicans call on hunter biden? >> this isn't like some fantasy football trade, as i said yesterday. they want to do this trial to smear the bidens. that's not theheur purpose of te trial and senators should not

allow them to be abused in that way. >> tucker: that's kind of refreshing. schiff was clearly honest. he can see that it would be devastating for the biden presidential campaign. that campaign, it turns out, must be protected at all stopped on my cost. destroyedim biden in the whole impeachment thing will be for naught. to tell you that the democratic establishment wants joe biden as the nominee in the first place because he is moderate and can win what is joe biden actually moderate? he hugs people, that doesn't mean he ishr moderate. he's just not a threat to the lifestyle of democratic leaders. an immigration for example he's not moderate by any definition. in a recent interview advice, biden explicit even illegal aliens who commit drunk driving offenses ought to be allowed to stay here forever. watch. >> you only arrest for the purpose of dealing with a felony that's committed, and i don't count drunk driving as a felony. >> tucker: have a few beers, blike whatever. drunk driving kills thousands of

americans every year. democrats used to tell you a lot about that, biden doesn't care anymore, not of illegals are doing it. and for good measure after those illegal immigrants drunk drivers cause a crash, they get free health care for theirnket injur, their victims may not. ify you get free health care? no. but biden would like to give it to people here illegally. that's okay. after all, according to biden, illegal aliens are more american than you are. he said it, watch. >> these kids have come, they've done well, most of these kids -- there's a lot of them and they are j not just hispanic. they are asian pacific islanders as well and they in fact have done very, very well. in many cases they are more american than moster americans e because theye have done well in school, they believe the basic principles that we all share. >> tucker: there more american than most americans are. more american than you are. shut up, you foreigner. in the same interviewer biden vowed to protect drunk by drivers, he also said americans

must make reparations to illegal aliens for what they've done. watch. >> families that were separated by the federal government deserve any kind of preparation or any kind of restitution for what they suffered? >> yes, they should be made hole. they should be made whole in terms of first and foremost getting back with their famili families. reparations, repairing damage. the latino community, talk about -- let people know the anxiety of the children you know or parents who may have an illegal parent -- an undocumented parent in the country. it's enormous anxiety. so that's why we should be fighting the kind of help that is needed and the family that is needed to restore their confidence, restore their sense of who they are. >> tucker: oaks, he said illegal but quickly corrects ilhimself, undocumented, go ahed and drunk drive. by the way, we are getting reparations and free health care. is that moderate? that's the question. is that moderate? goodman writes for the "washington examiner" and we are happy to have her tonight

because she covers all the stuff. so much for coming. so from the very beginning the assumption has been, mostly because of his temperament, that biden is this moderate guy with broad appeal to swing voters to the extent that they still exist, is that true? >> look, thinkable look at this -- the dui instance and is heit why didn't biden do anythig about this when he was vice president? emin, obama deported 100,000 illegal immigrants who had duis convictions and i don't remember joe biden saying anything about this at the time. so the question is, why is this an issue for him all of a sudden right now? >> tucker: i it's just a little weird because her average american born 18-year-old lives in terror of getting caught using a fake i.d. or drunk driving. and they're telling us that's totally cool. no problem. >> yet. it downplays in a way also the seriousness of drunk driving. especially felony drunk driving. there's usually more factors to it in those states to get ase

felony. usually things like, you know, if you cause an accident that results in injury or if you have a young child in the car. there is other issues like that and it just seems to kind of downplay the severity of it to say -- >> tucker: it's a little strange because i watched a video, you can watch yourself oy youtube of joe biden saying that his wife and daughter were killed by a drunk driver. so it's a little weird for him to be saying yeah drunk driving, whatever. >> i do just want to say, as you probably know, the family of the man who had been driving that truck, they said that he was not driving drunk and there was no doubt she was never charged with drunkwi driving. >> tucker: whether or not that's true he claimed it. i think that's totally fair point. do you think the democratst. in washington who conceived of, pushed and are now defending the biden candidacy are worried about it? >> i think that they would have to be.

when you talk about reparations, things like that, it just shows how far democrats have shifted on the issue of illegal immigration just in the last four years. president obama had deported more illegal immigrants than any other president and at a higher rate. and now you have joe bidenid coming out and taking very different position on this and where was his criticism of this at the time when he wasid vice president? and should havet been able to do something about it. speeone's overly quick, is there majority support in this country for reparations for illegal aliens? >> i have not seen the polling on that. >> tucker: i think somewhere at biden hq, wherever that is, saying oh, my gosh. it's not going well. thanks so much. >> thanks. great to see you. >> tucker: tulsi gabbard is suing hillary clinton for a lot. even the clintons are paying attention because it's that much. we will tellio b you why she's g it. plus our ongoing coverage of the impeachment trial in the senate,

adam schiff has probably relinquished at the microphone, nowhere in whether they had to tarry out of his hands. that's a congressman from california. >> that the white house preserve all relevant records and produce them by september 16th. this included thens transcript r actually the call record of the july 25th call between president trump and president zelensky. ♪ - do you have a box of video tapes, film reels, or photos,

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>> tucker: tonight we should gather to keep awake during the heimpeachment trial in the sena. we managed to do that as congressman tulsi gabbard targeted by the democratic establishment. they hate her. and opposing wars and countries that are not in our national interest. now a new lawsuit, she is accusing clinton as defamation. more on that. >> tucker of the 50 plus million pallar lawsuit accuses secretary of state damaging tulsi gabbard's presidential campaigne by spreading false accusation when she knew they were false. hillary clinton never mention tulsi gabbard by name when she mentioned the comments in october during the podcast for former obama advisor but the finger-pointing with a strong connection. listen. >> i think they have their eye on somebody currently in the democratic primary. they are grooming her to be that candidate. she is a favorite of thes russians. they have a bunch of sites and

pots and other ways of supporting her so far. >> sites and bots to strong support on social media. gabbert tulsi gabbard is not a russian asset or anybody else to control her campaign. she denies a third-party run and also talks of her years with the national guard andnd her four terms in congress. s tulsi gabbard believes the opposition from hillary clinton began in 2016 when she supported bernie sanders in the democratic primary but the spokesperson responded to the lawsuit telling fox news "that is ridiculous." tucker. >> tucker: they are grooming her. unbelievable. trace gabbert trace gallagher, thank you very much. the guest to have seen on the show a quick note about one of them, the reporter of the intercept has been on the show and charged in brazil yesterdayt and accused of committing a series of crimes for printing text messages between government leaders as part of expose.

yet if convicted, he faces long termld and some of the harshest prisons and the world. he could die in there. and he could find a way to fly back to new york tomorrow if he wanted but he's refusing. he is pledging to stay in brazil and fight and we are not surprised by that. at the height of the russia hysteria, the american left calling the witch at home i can't what it was. dozens of time he came to say what was true and great personal cost to himself. friends hated him for breaking they tried to get them bounced out of the job. now he faces jail and some arerd attacking him, but moving forward anyway because he asthought it was the right thing to do. he has that tough and that self-directed. that is something to admire and we do admire. we are rooting for you tonight. that is it for us. we will be back tomorrow 8:00 p.m. and every weeknight from now until whenever. the show is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and group think good night from washington and

we will continue to monitor the pete impeachment trial upon the capital throughout the night. >> omb lawyers said it was legal as long as they deemed it -- ♪ >> sean: welcome to hannity. we start tonight a fox news alert. you are not dreaming. this is not some horrific nightmare. at this hour the schumer schiff sham show by the way try saying that three times fast not on a delay national tv. going up to bat. no net and i'm on the high wire. anyway, it's still going on. i have a lot of good news we start with tonight. none of this will matter because in 286 days, you, we, the american people you, iri can report tonight, will be the ultimate jury in all of this. i don't have a crystal ball. i can't predict the future. i'm irish, always worry the next bomb is coming. the election is never