that is "the story" of wednesday january 29th, 2020. as always, the story continues but we'll see you tomorrow night at 7:00. tucker carlson coming up next. see you tomorrow, everybody. have a good night. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson." an update on the world's dullest impeachment trial. if something significant happens, will bring it to you right away. the question is why has this been so boring? well, because it doesn't mean anything to it rather than a debate over things that matter, you are watching purported adult yell at each other whether a former vice president's ne'er-do-well middle-age son should interrupt his early retirement in l.a. and come talk to them. honestly? who cares. whatever. for once, we do have a semiinteresting development tonight. apparently some democratic

senators are considering casting votes to acquit donald trump. new reports suggest that senators joe manchin of west virginia, kyrsten sinema of arizona, and doug jones of alabama are undecided on the president's guilt. that's a story. undecided? how could they be undecided about this? it's not like it's a totally fraudulent exercise in partisan politics. no, not at all. if you've been watching they know that this is nothing less than and we want to be totally clear about this, and national security crisis. >> president trump is a clear and present danger to our free and fair elections and our national security. >> the president is an ongoing threat to our ongoing security. >> the president betrayed our security and undermined the security of our elections. >> undermined are national security. >> so he could keep power. >> he harmed america's national

security. we must act without delay. >> did you hear that? are you listening carefully? the president under my national security and he did it on purpose. do you know what that is? it's treason, as they'll tell you on who refused to stop or punish or convince delma convict them. are they guilty of treason too? of course they are, they are collaborators. not long until we see the impeachment trials of joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, or doug jones. it was not america betrayed, it was perhaps far more importantly, the noble people of ukraine, the craniums, our most important allies in the global war against putinism. listen to adam schiff explain.

>> the importance of ukraine' uo our national security, makes the support all more deserving. it would've weakened our allies and exposed u.s. troops stationed in europe to greater danger. we only deter russia by consistently demonstrating support for our friends. friends like ukraine. that is why it's so important to our security that we stand with ukraine. countries like ukraine fighting our fight against authoritarianism. god help us if it's not our fight, still. >> tucker: god help us, implores america as warrior priest adam schiff. stand with ukraine, for the love of god, man! stand with ukraine! as generations on the deathbeds have said to their older sons, boy, stand with ukraine! because even now, in this modern age that we dare to call

civilized, there are dark forces working unseen in the shadows even now. forces if left to their own diabolical devices might briefly delay the transfer of sophisticated weapons technology that have ignited people of that holy nation ukraine. that, as cory booker once explained with a totally straight face, would be treason. >> we are realizing that the president withholding that aid not for national security purposes, in fact violating national security interests, to pursue his own personal benefit. that is outrageous and in my opinion that is treasonous. >> tucker: treasonous. the question at this point is what you do with treason. do you look away and don't pretend you see it? do you let it pass with the acquittal, not like every decent red-blooded american, you don't love ukraine with a selfless love a parent for a child, unless you are the kind of sold that monster who put the interest of your nation above those of ukraine. did you know that chicago,

illinois, is the sister city of kiev. not a cousin, a sister city! spiritually near, effectively the 51st state. when ukraine sneezes, we as a nation say go god bless you. you are one of us, as you've been for centuries upon centuries. adam schiff joined together, let no man turned asunder. think about that joe manchin, kyrsten sinema! josh hawley is the senator from missouri. he joins us now. thank you so much for joining us. just came out of the senate chamber. we are seeing reports today and i know it's the other side of the aisle but there are a number of democrats, joe manchin of west virginia, kyrsten sinema of arizona among them, who are considering a vote to acquit. do you think that is true, and if it is, what does it tell us? >> i think it's very possible, tucker, it tells her that they just do not have a case. i think we are watching here the

questioning tonight, the democratic case just fall apart. i came from the floor, we are in recess here. adam schiff said on the floor that this is all about bribery, extortion. that's what's going on here. but the house did in charge bribery or extortion, they did not allege that in the articles of impeachment. we are wondering, why are we here exactly? they don't even know. i think the democrats are sensing that and i wouldn't be surprised if we picked up some votes. >> you are saying, the united state senator spent all day at the impeachment trial and asked the big questions like, why are we here? that's deeply revealing. this is hypothetical, but it turns out that the democrats don't hold the line, some vote to acquit, what will they say at that point, i wonder? as a party? >> i think they are just going to have to admit that this was ill-advised from the beginning. what it really has been a partisan attempt to overturn any election. that's what it turns down to. they wanted to impeach him from day one, hell bent on doing it.

whoops! they actively did it and cannot prove the case and putting the e country through this, tucker. it's time to bring this to an end. let's vote. they do not have a case. let's vote. >> there's been some wrangling over whether they have witness witnesses, big picture. are you sensing that there is any republican tonight who might vote to convict. >> i never can speak for anybody else. i will say that the republic conferences that people are ready to vote. we've admitted all of the house's evidence in the record including testimony from 17 witnesses. all of that before us. on the record, to be honest with you, i have a hard time imagining that someone would vote to convict, the evidence is just not there and i have not heard anybody say they think it is. but we will see. >> tucker: that such a good point and it's not as if there

is a lot of united states senators with long-standing relationships with the president. presumably, if there was evidence overwhelming and a crime was committed, you wouldn't see a loss of some republicans, wouldn't you? >> let's be honest here. there are a lot of senators on the republican side we do not like the president. they would be happy to vote against them, really, some of them, if they can find grounds too. they can't find any grounds to because there aren't any and the longer the house managers talk, the more obvious that becomes. >> tucker: i think that's right. thank you for your honesty, senator, and thank you for joining us in the middle of this chaos. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: constitutional lawyer and advisor to the trump reelection campaign. thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: people who have not been able to pry their eyelids open with toothpicks emma what is the >> really, what's going on here

is this amazing juxtaposition between what we saw in new jersey and the president having over 150 people requesting tickets versing nobody paying attention to the democrats by stress reelection campaign out here in the impeachment process. i read a piece in fox news -- >> tucker: i can't resist, apparently threes democrats in the senate know it's a hoax because they are thinking to vote to acquit. >> i'm proud of the senators who say the nonpartisan solution here is to dismiss this because of the after mentioned reasons i wrote in fox news. it's the democrats' burden of proof, they have not fourth and the evidence from the house whatsoever to fulfill the criteria of the articles of impeachment. second, the uncontested facts here are entirely on the president's side, on the side of the constitution and the side of the law. we know that ukraine did get its

aid, no pressure. within the year it was appropriated for, and the meetings with president zelensky occurred with no announcement of any sort of investigation. so why are we here? the third thing is that the articles themselves legally failed. abuse of power and obstruction of congress as alan dershowitz has repeatedly very well articulated are not the constitutional standards for impeachment. and that matters here. even though we all make fun of this crazy theater, this actually matters to the state of our nation, that we are allowing the house to weaponize impeachment. by the way, they've been trying to pass the past 5060 years to weaponize the majority? they are now minimizing the impact of the judicial branch. our subpoenas can go through the judiciary because president trump has put over 160 judicial appointments that are conservative. where is the majority in the house? that's what they are trying to weaponize and say that we get all the power now.

finally, this whole bolton bombshell? this is the 11 hour ridiculous julie swetnick -- >> tucker: as we are speaking, adam schiff is on the floor demanding bolton -- we are not going to. he's demanding to be 21's presence and threatening to subpoena bolton. >> which is ridiculous and this is the 11 hour attempt to try to say that there is some sort of evidence here and we've learned after resumption after presumption after assumption that the democrats make a much ado about absolutely nothing, like they do with the kavanaugh hearings, with this being the investigation, we are learning through this entire impeachment sham, they are trying to extend the circus. we need witnesses! why? >> tucker: really quick, they keep saying we don't have witnesses but i thought they had more than a dozen witnesses during the house. >> they actually had 18. they keep saying there was only 17 witnesses. the 18th witnessed they won't even acknowledge is the iag

michael hatton sin who testified likely against schiff and the whole whistle-blower inception. they won't even acknowledge that. why do we need more? >> tucker: thanks so much for that summation. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: the upside of collapsing political campaigns here is they tend to be pretty honest. once they sense they are losing, candidates decide to see what they actually think. that apparently is where elizabeth warren is tonight. with her chances of becoming president having assumed an trajectory of a plane crash, she decides to go full fascist because that's who she is and has always been. warman releases a plan that the man's criminal penalties for anybody who post this information online to dissuade voters. try to ignore the relevant irony here. this is a person for years posted false claims online that she was a cherokee indian to sway voters. this is a candidate who pretended that she lost a job

for being pregnant and her kids went to public school. this very same person is threatening to send you to prison for telling tall tales. the most florid liar in the race says she's going to criminalize. paging dr. freud! that is more than hypocrisy. it's a sickness. let's take elizabeth plans seriously for a moment. what exactly is disinformation she intends to ban? if you think the answer has something to do with russia, pour yourself another vodka. according to warren's press release, the same tactics employed by the russian government are assessable to domestic group seeking to promote or oppose candidates and political or social issues. okay. but what does that mean? well, it means that when people say things that elizabeth warren doesn't like, or impede her attempts to a kingly power, they should go to jail.

warren is not the first person to fantasize about this. the founders of this country understood that well and that's why they protected us with the first amendment. warren doesn't care. many on the left to have his claim, the first mammon is racist, written by slaveholders. shut up and obey! sharing information about you so she can determine things that she does not want sad and it can be punished. warren has also promised a global summit on disinformation so other fascist governments can coordinate their efforts against speech more efficiently print no word yet whether what north korea has joined warren's budding coalition, they are a natural partner in this. none of this has happened, at least not soon. voters do not love elizabeth warren enough to give her more power. but the press still takes elizabeth warren very seriously. they love her. warren won "the new york times" endorsement for president just the other day. the question is are the media on board with her plan to shut down

the first amendment? don't take our word for it. see for yourself. if the media don't announce this idea the next few days, you know they are for it. joe biden is clearly failing. in every sense. but his handlers to refuse to let him earn a well earned retirement in florida, so biden is campaigning, discussing his own coming death. it's bizarre and we have the tape. also, democrats are upset about the bernie surge in the race. dana perino joins us with more on that. we will continue to watch the floor for the impeachment proceedings on the floor tonight. we'll keep an eye out. when you move homes, you move more than just yourself.

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>> tucker: with every passing day, it becomes harder and harder to deny that joe biden does not belong on the debate stage behind the wheel of the car. he stated it and he should not be doing a sick parity of campaigning in iowa. he deserves that. he's earned it. this is a depiction of what is life might be like if he did that. he's not doing that. he's campaigning and it's a mistake and it's obviously a mistake and it has always been and we hate to brag but we working cable news so it's encoded in our dna, but we did call this and we called it in the very beginning of biden's run when he was the most popular. we said it would work. watch. biden's campaign is not a real campaign. it's a zombie effort. it lurches from one blunder to another until, finally, some catastrophe will put it out of its misery. when people actually see

joe biden, they realize he's not a distinguished elder statesman. he sadly a fading one. not to be mean, it's true. lisa boothe is an independent women's senior fellow. joins us to discuss the state of biden for president campaign. >> i like the imagery, by the way, joe biden feeding a seagull. looks very peaceful and pleasant and relaxing. >> tucker: i hope to be feeding siegel's before too long. you need to know when they get out and there's nothing wrong feeding siegel's ice cream. they like it. that's chocolate soft serve in the picture, but everybody knows that this is a bad idea. nobody loves joe biden enough to tell him and you have to marvel at the panic of a party that realized they put all of their eggs in the basket and a candidate who should be feeding

siegels. >> it's why president obama pushed him out in 2016 and try to push them out in 2020 as somebody who knows him best, he knows the ins and outs of him as a candidate and pushed him out once and tried to do it again. tucker, we are at a time days away in iowa, the iowa caucuses, monmouth university came out with a poll that showed nearly half of likely caucus goers are still undecided where they are open to changing their minds, which makes this clip of joe biden interacting with a potential iowa voter all that much more perplexing. watch this. >> what are we going to do about climate change? you were against the pipeline but you want to replace these gas lines question mike that's not going to work. we've got to stop rebuilding and replacing pipelines. >> you are not going to vote for me -- >> i'm going to vote for you in the general election. >> no, you are not. you don't support me. >> i did!

speaker you said you'd vote for me in the general. i'm running for a primary. >> if you watch later in the clip, he gets more physical with a guy. the man's name is ed that's not a good way to win support or iowa caucuses to go out and caucus for you. we've been seeing joe biden figuring out where he is, a lot of questions raised about his age. so this clip also doesn't really do a lot to instill confidence. >> i can think of at least eight cowomen, at least 4-5 people of color, that i think are totally qualified to be vice president of the united states. but for me, and has to be demonstrated that whoever i pick is two things. one, capable of being the president, because i'm an old guy, okay? >> so earlier in the day, he also floated michelle obama as a

potential vp pick. the centerpiece of his entire candace he has to do for the fact that he was a vice president to president obama. i do not think he would be considered as remotely viable candidate if it was not for that. i think that's the only thing that has been propping him up, and looking at these other candidates like bernie sanders, it's maybe not the best alternative for these democrat primary voters. >> tucker: i've covered a lot of campaigns but i've never seen a candidate predict his own death or say so clearly, i may not make it to the end of my first term. it's disturbing at that moment. i'm not criticizing, i'm just never seen everything like that. lisa boothe, great to see you. joe biden shouldn't be running for president. currently, biden's chief rival is alternative medicine enthusiast bernie sanders. democratic insiders do not think he can win in washington, but teaming up with cnn announcing him as a sexist didn't work

either, and made him stronger. sanders enemies are targeting his health. watch. >> we've seen the damage that trump and the republican congress have done. >> i doubt that bernie sanders can beat trump. >> i like bernie and i like his ideas. but michigan, pennsylvania is not going to vote for a socialist. >> i have concerns about his health because he did have a heart attack. >> we need a nominee who can beat trump. >> i don't feel that bernie sanders would do well against donald trump. >> tucker: the host of "the daily briefing" with dana perino, she joins us. i don't know i if you know that bernie sanders had a heart attack but they want you to know. >> loud and clear from the message. >> tucker: it's pretty amazing that i'm not defending bernie of course in any way, but i do think for people who are backing biden, to raise the question of bernie's physical stamina, vigor, physical fitness for office, does seem an unwise path

to go down. >> seems like they do not want to meet him on the battlefield of ideas. and policies but mostly because a lot of them have a ready adopted bernie sanders' ideas from before. elizabeth warren, i do not mind campaigns going after each other. the democrats i think are trying to be too nice but they have to draw distinctions and let us know who they think is going to be the best one and we might not have a clear picture in iowa, but if bernie sanders has been having a surge, his rise has been steady and durable whereas others like elizabeth warren, she has risen and fallen with the music cycle. she recently deployed some of her circus that bernie sanders supporters are being mean to her. mike bloomberg is attacking him for being too far left and being against israel. even the club for growth going after bernie sanders for being too far to left. that's a conservative republican

leading group, they are trying to pop up bernie sanders' numbers going after him, that's a page out of the claire mccaskill playbook. because as 41, george w. bush said, once you have the big mo, momentum, it's hard to stop. >> very smart democrats of the mike bloomberg campaign who says here's a guy who does not have a realistic shot to win and has no real message but why is he running? why is he putting a billion dollars in the race? could it be the point of the bloomberg canonicity is to stop bernie sanders? >> i speak to people in the bluebird campaign and to me they truly believe they have a path, a very difficult one, but one where he could be president. this guy might be a billionaire but he's not somebody who just throws money away. he knows how to make it, he knows how to spend it. i think he thinks that i think is more along the lines of not just to get bernie out, but it was insurance against what you just were talking about with

lisa boothe, what if biden crumbles? than you might see him try to come in a contested convention and deal with that. another thing when i heard about the michael bloomberg campaign? we've got staffers all over the place? arizona, i have asked somebody affiliated with the campaign, what are voters talking about in arizona? what he was hearing out there now that you have the staffers out there? the number one issue they talk about in arizona is charter schools but no one else is talking about that but michael bloomberg has a record on that in new york, so he's out there touting it. >> tucker: i think he has an admirable record on that, actually. i do. i agree with him on that. i hope he sticks with it. >> if bernie sanders does well in iowa, he'll go to his favorite state in new hampshire, won it by a lot in 2016. we could see a bernie surge here and the democrats might get really nervous. >> tucker: if he wins nevada, it's tough. i hope he'll be along with us. >> i will see you there.

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>> tucker: in the last few weeks, the world has become familiar with the word "coronavirus." what does that mean, though? it must be related to corona beer in which you put limes into. is that real? trace gallagher has more on the story. >> turns out, confusing the beer with the virus is a worldwide mistake. google trends saved in january 182 the 26th, searches for corona beer virus jumped 200% globally with the highest numbers in cambodia and denmark. here in the u.s., the corona beer virus surge was of more than a thousand% with states

like oregon, colorado, an arizona leading the charge. corona is latin for crown. the coronavirus named that because under a microsoft, the viruses crown like spikes. as you can imagine, genuine searches for coronavirus have also skyrocketed. chinese authorities now say there's 7,700 cases of the virus in china with 170 dead. the u.s. has five confirmed cases with no deaths. google can only tell us how many people search for corona beer virus. they can't actually give us a breakdown of how many searches were based on confusion and how many were people just goofing around. tucker? >> tucker: confusing cambodia about the coronavirus. trace gallagher, great seeing you tonight. thank you. now that we've cleared of that missed contraption, what is the coronavirus? what are the symptoms?

thanks, doctor, for coming on. describe, if you would, what it means to get the coronavirus. >> the coronavirus is a virus in mammals, different kinds of mammals. it goes from one species to another. this particular strain, and it's a single strand of genetic material that mutates all the time, that changes all the time, that's why it can go from being the common cold to being quite deadly. the way humans get it and we talked about this before is by being in close contact with animals. it hops into humans and it can start to accelerate and go from human to human. the symptoms you get, tucker, our fever, sore throat, cough, shortness of breath. sounds like any respiratory virus, right? that's the problem. we don't know yet how deadly it is, but it looks like because of all the cases in china that weren't reported and i believe there are a lot of mild cases that were never reported and it may not be as deadly as feared.

over here in the united states, the centers for disease control has done a fantastic job isolating for those who have it, checking for those who came from rohan including the 200 getting off the plane in california today, and every day that goes by, without those people spreading it to other people, the more we believe that maybe it's not as contagious as feared. >> tucker: gosh, i hope that's the case. some have died, over 100 according to the official chinese counting of it. how do they die? without being morbid, i think it's an important question. what kills you about the coronavirus? >> very important question and like with sars which is the previous one we are worried about because sars killed 1 out of 10 people who had it, it's usually pneumonia, it shortness of breath and cough and he developed pneumonia. almost everyone who has died from this so far has been elderly -- not all, there was a young teen who died tragically,

but most elderly or have some kind of chronic condition where they are predisposed to this virus doing the worst. again, it may be that it's not as deadly as feared. when i'm disturbed mostly about is that over in china, they don't seem to have done what we are doing over here. isolating people. seeing who they are in contact with. making sure that we track it, testing people for it. that's how you contain it. a vaccine is in the works, by the way. i spoke with dr. that's about a year away. >> tucker: a year away? >> it's a month or two ago from going into trials. it looks promising. i have to tell you, the idea of people walking down the streets, tucker, with masks on is absurd because with five cases in the united states, they shouldn't be thinking coronavirus. they should be thinking flu! which has infected 20 million this year so far.

20 million versus five! >> tucker: thank you for the perspective on that, doctor. thank you for speaking to us tonight. don lemon has taken a lot of heat for ridiculing half the country as ignorant trash. >> that's partly him playing to the base and playing to their audience, you know, the credulous boomer ruby demo that backs donald trump. that wants to think -- donald trump is the smart one and y'all are elitists! >> tucker: no mr. lemon is trying to redeem himself with a bizarre nonapology and more lying. we will investigate don lemon's attempt at a cover up. but nancy grace is here for a special appearance on an important story. here she is. we are still monitoring impeachment underway in the senate. we'll bring you anything in a interesting that happens. with te

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>> tucker: as you know as you watch the show, new york over overhauled its veil laws. the new laws make life much easier for criminals, harder for cops, and far worse for normal people. the laws abolish cash bail for dozens of crime including burglary, stalking, prostitution, minor assaults, even some types of arson and robbery. the results will not shock you. according to the nypd commissioner, so far this year, car thefts are up 67%. 67%! in a month! burglary up 14.5%, robbery up 14%, grand larceny up 10% compared to the same time from a year ago. the specific stories are shocking even for new york. six disaffected drug dealers accused of running a 7 million

dollar fentanyl operation walked out of jail without paying a dime in bail. will they come back for hearings? why would they? the supporters reportedly waved their hands and celebrations as they walked out. the finger to normal america. nancy grace is an authority on crime and hosts "crime stories with nancy grace" on fox nation. thank you so much for coming up. you followed this for so long. are you surprised that the law changes, and crime rises? >> i am very, very surprised. not only am i surprised, i am distraught. we have been told that this is bail reform but it's anything but reform. it makes me wonder, do they think we, the people, are all idiots? these are not nonviolent crimes. i know you are a fast-paced show, but let this sink in! aggravated assault on a child under 11? tear gassing a cop? pointing a laser at an aircraft? promoting a same-sex act by a

child question mike you can sell heroin, fentanyl, crack, walk right out. of the other criminals sitting in the courtroom are clapping as they walk out! it's wrong, tucker. >> tucker: can you imagine any scenario where other people benefit from this? who are the beneficiaries here? >> they it, they, the reformists are saying that it's to equalize bail for everyone. what it is is no bail for anybody, you can walk straight out and in some cases, the government is giving gift bags, i'm talking about flip phones, tickets to ball games. it's insane! this is what it boils down to. the government is here to protect the people and the people are going to suffer,

those who have always suffered, women, children, victims who do not have a voice to speak for themselves, tucker. >> tucker: how should we feel about a government who expressly takes the side of criminals over us? >> i feel bad. i feel bad. and i feel angry. i am a crime victim. i'm not just a former prosecutor. but i know how it feels personally when a violent felon gets out of jail. many times, the victims don't even know about it. but think about these crimes >> tucker: we lost nancy grace. but the point remains. well told, passionate, and true. the beneficiary is not you or anyone else who tries to do the right thing within the bounds of society. the crime is the beneficiaries of this and the people who mock our system, who hate you.

amazing. two nights ago, don lemon over on cnn laughed so hard at normal people, he couldn't even speak. now he says americans are too dumb to know what's really going on but he's going to tell you. we are going to tell you the truth. we continue our vigil in the u.s. senate tonight. impeachment goes on and on and on, but we are watching. so stay tuned.

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that, you know, isn't moving nations necessarily, but it's so revealing of what's actually going on just beneath the surface all across the west and we are going to revisit it. don lamon broke out laughing, hysterically, belly laugh. but rick wilson, his best, oblivious to all irony called normal people -- if they wanted an apology, they should have gone somewhere else. instead, don lamon said this. "ask anyone who knows me. they will tell you. i don't believe in belittling people, belittling anyone for who they are, for what they believe, or where they are from. just to make perfectly clear, i was laughing at the joke and not at any group of people." >> tucker: the best line was "ask anyone who knows me."

we know a lot of people that know don lamon. that's not what they think. i've never belittled anyone, says don lamon. anybody. really? because we have a vcr or whatever they are calling them now. watch. >> as journalists, we have to give you the facts. what happens there is you don't talk about the substance of what you said or if there, if it's factual or not. you don't talk about that. what you do is you say everybody is out to get me. their audience just eats it up. yeah, that's right. not even caring about the facts. >> tucker: yeah, they are just dumb. just dumb. then there was the time that don, enemy of all belittling, said that it was okay to attack people for wearing the wrong hat. >> the maga hat provokes a certain reaction from many people. when you wear that hat, you are saying, "build that wall."

>> tucker: we should say, we told you that it happened monday night. it could have happened any nig night. it happened over the weekend. but the point remains, remember the time don lamon attacked kanye west as a race traitor for daring to have opinions that he doesn't share? >> him in front of all these white people, mostly white people, embarrassing himself and embarrassing americans, but mostly african-americans. and now, all of a sudden, he is the person who represents the african-american community. he doesn't. this was an embarrassment. his mother is rolling over in her grave. >> tucker: of the chief washington correspondent and coauthor of "the populace guide to 2020." a book that has received no promotion and is number 11 on amazon tonight and for good reason because it explains what

is going on around the world. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, tucker. appreciate it. >> tucker: so, don lamon gets caught doing something which people do all the time, which is mocking everyone out in the great darkce between the east on the west coast, but he gets caught doing on it. and then he doesn't really apologize. why? >> no. he doesn't apologize, because he and everybody there, they have sheer contempt for the american working class or anybody who would vote for donald trump. rick's joke was that these americans can't find ukraine on a map. well, he can find ukraine on a map and he wants to send you and your viewer's kids to go diana were over there. is he smarter than they are? if he can't find ukraine on a map, are you stupider than rick wilson? >> tucker: i love what you just said. you went right to policy.

you did and it said that people are immoral or they are stupid. you said that they are pushing policies that are wrong. poor debate is always over what do we do with the country or foreign policy. they never even addressed that. they don't want to have a policy debate. why is that? >> because that's the easier debate, to call you racist or ignorant. you are racist or ignorant if you want -- if you don't want an open border, you are racist. if you don't want more trade with china so we have cheaper plastic goods here at home, then you are an idiot. you've never taken an economics class. what do you know? i'm like, hey, man. i'm just trying to feed my kids. you fool. you are better off. prices are cheaper. that's what they think education and being smart is. to demonize them so they don't have to defend their idiotic policy position. >> tucker: what i find so striking is that the people who are saying things like this, who

are dodging the real question of demonizing the country they preside over, are the products of a very deliberate system designed to create oppressed people. pete buttigieg is a product of harvard. they are not impressive. maybe there is something wrong with the system we've created. >> you say this all the time. it's not that we are antielite. we just want a better elite. we want a better elite who doesn't come through harvard and decide the best thing to do is go work in private equity or fix bread prices. look at winston churchill and these other guys. they will go off to war. they would go and they would create -- they went off to do great things in this country. we have a great tradition of having an educated elite, which understands what it owes to its working class. these people think that they earned it, so they don't own owe them anything. >> tucker: so, they are entirely convinced that not only are they in charge, but that they deserve to be at, and if you are not in charge, you

deserve it. >> this is what they have decided. they have created the system which is that they are not impressive what's away in any way whatsoever. they have to protect. america woke up in 2016. that's what my book talks about. that's what we talke talk aboutl the time. america understood that no, we don't have to buy into the system whatsoever. the people on cnn who are literally laughing at you, the one thing you have left in your life is the boat. that's what they may have. that's the only power remaining. >> tucker: of course dominic course, they are trying to take your vote away. you deserve it. that's it for us. unfortunately, we've got ddr if you can.

the great sean hannity. >> tucker: you just said unfortunately, we'll be back tomorrow. you actually said those words. we are out of time. are you kidding? >> sean: thank you. welcome to hannity. the repulsive disgusting schiff show circus is over. finally, we see the light at the end of the tunnel. at this hour, very good sources are telling me that the schumer-schiff sham show is circling the drain. can't come soon enough. it appears senate majority leader, mcconnell, now has the votes to block further witnesses and this whole pointless charade could be wrapped up friday or saturday of this week. earlier today, colorado senator,