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keep it to fox. we will be back tomorrow night. 8:00 p.m., then show that is tonight and will always be the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, groupthink. the state of the union's tomorrow if he didn't have enough news already. good night from washington. sean hannity takes the reins. >> good show, thank you. welcome to "hannity." we have breaking news on multiple fronts. we have it all covered and in fact we could very well have the results from the iowa caucus within this hour and get this, according to a source on the ground, underreported story, the republican caucus, remember, it is totally uncontested. it's in fact packed with voters showing their support tonight for the president and also tonight we will have more of my exclusive interview with the president from yesterday's super bowl and his powerful campaign ads that aired during the game. what a game thankfully the schumer-schiff sham show is officially done, officially
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imploded. the president will be acquitted, vindicated by wednesday. i want to address some news that's very difficult for me personally and for so many others across the country. we got the news today from a very stoic radio legend, rush limbaugh, a friend of this broadcast. he has been diagnosed with advanced lung cancer. we are praying for the man who has literally paved the way for all of us, especially me. everybody and talk radio. my friend neil called him the babe ruth of conservative talk radio. pitch-perfect description. without a doubt he's made it possible for all of us they do what we do, give opinion. he paved the way. he cut the forest and made the path that it was hard and he did it and we've all benefited as a result, and the country as well. he has educated us. he has entertained us. he's been fighting for us day after day. he said he has advanced the cause of patriotism, what our constitution is, family, faith,
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life. such a powerful approach, no one can or will match. rush is in the fight of his life but that's who roche is and like always come he's tackling it head-on. stoic, courageous, resolve, he's graced the airwaves for over three decades. take a look from today's announcement. >> i have been diagnosed with advanced lung cancer. i wish i didn't have to tell you this and i thought about not telling anybody. i thought about trying to do this without anybody knowing because i don't like making things about me. but there are going to be days that i'm not going to be able to be here. >> sean: rush is a fighter. tonight, all of us, we are paying he's getting the treatment he's getting and gets back to work as soon as possible doing what he does better than anyone else and that's fighting for this wonderful country of ours come our way of life, our
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core values. everything we all hold so dear. by the way, we expect them back on the air on thursday, he said. we will have more later. those values are not threatened by an increasingly radical extreme democratic socialist party. according to many of the latest polls, a devout 70-year-old socialist, we may know this hour, surging in the polls in iowa on the clincher south carolina. in a few minutes, we will learn if bernie sanders is able to pull out a victory in the iowa caucus. joining us now in des moines, our very own bill -- bill hemmer. congratulations on the ratings. >> good evening from des moines. it's too early to tell to get a firm idea of what's happening the precinct all across the state. turnout appears to be pretty good. the record within 2008 with 240,000. i want to show you something
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from 2016. we mention bernie sanders a moment to go. what is sanders thinking about tonight? he lost five a nose for years ago against hillary clinton. if bernie is going to have a good night tonight, he's got to do well in places like johnson county, here in eastern iowa. a university town. big winner four years ago. 20 points by hillary clinton. sanders is going to do well in johnson county. he's going to do well in story county, just north of des moines. iowa state university. could it be a 20-point margin like it was four years ago? we will see. the field is so much bigger than it was in 2016. conversely, joe biden is going to pop down to des moines and -- in polk county. hillary clinton voters, where did they go this time around? where did they dispersed? it is some of the drama we are waiting play out. i will show you, on the calendar, first monday in february. super bowl monday, iowa caucus. the state will run its way to
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south carolina toward the end of the month and that will move into super tuesday, the first tuesday in march. tonight in iowa, the delegates are 41 at stake across 99 counties and we will see the map start to fill in momentarily. a little too early but it will give us a little bit of time, maybe the next 15, 30 minutes. we should have a better gauge as to where iowa is going tonight during this long campaign season. sean, nice to see you at the super bowl and i will see you soon in new york. >> sean: bill hemmer, will be checking in with you. keep watching those numbers. we appreciate it. joining us with more, at joe biden's headquarters, peter doocy. what have you got tonight? >> so far, not a whole lot of fighting supporters because the doors to his caucus night celebration or at the very least caucus night remarks only just opened. one of our team members is downstairs, said there are 20 people waiting to come in. of course many people who will
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be here tonight are still at their caucus locations. it's really interesting, the campaign, big national campaign with strong poll numbers and who looked competitive against president trump, they are finding out what's happening in iowa tonight just like so many of us without access to sophisticated internal polling. i was just outside in the lobby and i saw a campaign manager for the biden team. he got in the text of a photo of a location in altoona that was good for their campaign. he was showing some of the staff. to this point, it's been just press and biden campaign staff. they don't know anything yet but we understand that he's watching des moines with his family and he should be here in about an hour. hopefully depending on how things shake out, we will be able to ask him what he thinks. >> sean: peter doocy, thank you. jacqui heinrich is that bernie sanders 'headquarters. what's the latest?
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>> sean, the doors just opened here a few minutes ago. people are starting to come in. of course a lot of excitement in the room. sanders came so close to winning this state in 2016. he lost in the caucasus by .3 percentage point. there's existing excitement for his campaign and they drew on those people to carry the senator while he was stuck in washington. i spoke to his wife, dr. jane sanders, she said last election they spent a lot of time trying to tell people who the senator was. this time around, those ideas are more mainstream. it's less about trying to win people over to their side than to really energize a groundswell of populist support that we saw work with president trump in 2016. he was the antiestablishment candidate and sanders is trying to pitch himself in that same way as someone outside the box who is consistently had different ideas and wanted to overhaul the system and helping more people come out for him.
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we will wait on those numbers. >> sean: thank you. joining us to break down what we now know about voter analysis, shannon bream. shannon, what do you have? >> it's interesting bec nearly s goers about how they feel about these things, the issues and the candidates and we are starting to get more information. here's a look about why this such a close battle. one way to think about this is in terms of ideological lanes. we asked folks if you are moderate, these are the voters among iowa democratic caucus goers. they split three ways between biden, buttigieg, klobuchar. we are four actually. and warren. let's look at the liberal lane. it's smaller in iowa. among those voters who say that i'm a liberal caucus goers, it's between sanders and warren. we have a tight race tonight. consider nearly six in ten of those that we talked to going into the caucasus think it would
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be harder to beat president trump in november if the democratic nominee has strongly liberal views. that's making them slightly more wary. that's the internal struggle that we've been seeing, do they go with the more moderate person who they think is a better chance of the general or go with somebody who's going to shake up the entire system, someone like sanders or warren who will really change things in a strong way. we will see who wins out tonight. as we get numbers, we will keep you updated. >> sean: shannon bream. we will continue to monitor all of these results throughout iowa. we will bring them to you as they become available which could happen in a few minutes. whatever happens in iowa in 274 days, you, the american people, you will render what is the ultimate verdict. president trump will be acquitted on wednesday and the latest impeachment witch hunt will be dead. the power to decide our future now rests squarely in your hands
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ultimately. the ultimate jury. you can in 274 days shock the world again in the democratic party, the state run media, the mob, they have nothing to offer except what they have given us for three years. conspiracy theories, lies, smears, slander, hopes after hopes. an unhealthy obsession with russia, russia, ukraine, ukraine, impeach, impeach. the democratic primary is shaping up to get to be yet another dumpster fire like it was in 2016. look. socialist bernie sanders has surged into the lead on the democratic establishment in a state of shock and panic. you have those associated with barack obama, the clintons, the so-called mainstream democrats everywhere seem to hate bernie sanders. chris matthews and others on my conspiracy theory channel openly worrying that no democrat can beat trump. john kerry reportedly overheard telling someone that
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bernie sanders could take down the entire democratic party. he first said expletive on twitter and then he deleted the expletive. tom brokaw thinks it would be really hard for the people to vote for bernie's brand of socialism. tom, with all due respect, little secret here. they are all radical extreme socialist. the new green deal. you might want to look at medicare for all and have it that obamacare thing work out? 2016 democrats, well, they did their best to rid the primary against bernie sanders in fact remember interim dnc chair donna brazile discovered that the clinton campaign and the dnc had in fact been working together to defeat bernie throughout the primary. in other words, the system was rigged. according to breazeale, she had exerted this control of the pary long before she became its nominee, meaning hillary clinton. no history seems to be repeating itself. the dnc is changing the rules so that one of bernie's top challengers may be bloomberg or whoever else, can take the debate stage without meeting
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requirements. bloomberg meanwhile is probably one of the dullest human beings alive. best known for being a 12 year caretaker of mayor giuliani's accomplishments in new york and lecturing new yorkers on how much so they can drink and how much salt they can use. there is a strong advocate by the way of giuliani's accessible to them first policy for 12 years but until recently. here we are, seven years after that, not bloomberg, yes, identity politics did in full playwriting for politics had a sudden change of heart and he has to play nice with the identity politics platform so he's pretending to be devastated that for 12 years and seven years after that that he ever supported stop and frisk. while bloomberg is an obvious hypocrite, bernie's long-held views are downright scary. that's true. here's what the president had to stay in our exclusive interview. take a look. >> president trump: well, i think he's a communist. i think it's communism when i think of bernie. i think a bernie a as a socialit frb on the socialist.
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>> sean: wedding, honeymoon, the former soviet union. doesn't really go together. wants to nationalize health care with medicare for all. he has a plan to nationalize the entire energy industry. we just became energy independent for the first time in 75 years. the lifeblood of the a $16 triln that's every penny. we will have nothing left over for things like oh, defense. by the way, like any good socialist, bernie doesn't think any of these rules apply to him. look at this report. sanders now leads the 2020 field of democratic radical socialist. environmentalist, new green deal, in private jets spending. let's just talk about one of bernie's, well, his surge. it's probably the only democrat running who actually excites phase. we know the quid pro quo joe has inspired virtually no one. he got 75 people in iowa recently at an event. he is struggling to raise money.
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he's events barely draw a few dozen people. his biggest cause for concern surrounds a scandal that won't go away. the biggest loser in this latest hoax. it boomerang back on quid pro quo joe n0 experience hunter and joel leveraging our money. a billion taxpayer dollars. you're not getting it must you fire the prosecutor. you six hours so his son can keep getting 83 grand a month. most americans, family four, average about $54,000 a year. in case you didn't know. zero experience hunter, no experience in oil, gas, energy or ukraine. why would any company pay somebody like that oh, let's see, millions and millions of dollars? it's clear hunter wasn't telling experience. he was selling accessibility like it's paid off. because in 2015, then vice president biden didn't withhold that billion. guess what, son of a b, they fire the prosecutor. he bragged about it. now he's not breaking any more. in fact he's getting quite angry
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and unhinged whenever the subject even comes up. like you did with savannah guthrie, take a look. >> this process of impeachment has ensured that everyone knows about hunter's dealings with ukraine. >> that's a good thing. no one's found anything wrong with his dealings with ukraine except they say it's it's a bad image. >> do you think it was wrong for them to take that position? >> no. >> knowing that it was really because that company wanted access to you. >> that's not true. you are saying things you do not know what you're talking about. no one said that. he's a very bright guy. >> i guess the question i'm kind of asking, was it right? >> appearance. well, he said he regretted having done it. >> sean: he said it. you're not getting the billion unless you fire that kind of saved my zero experience on. he has no answers because there is a reasonable explanation. selling accesses what was going on. using our tax dollars to do it. ironically every hypocritical democrat and every media mob individual that failed to do what savannah guthrie did. take a bow. great job.
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the biden family business, the syndicate, was turning a massive profit every step of the way. voters of every reason not to trust him and by the way, his frontrunner status is in jeopardy tonight without a doubl hypocritical and corrupt democratic field in modern history. an extreme. the president pointing out, this election is going to have dire ramifications for our kids and our grandkids. take a look. if they were to win, based on they beat the new green deal or medicare for all. what would you see america becoming? >> president trump: they are going to give away things that are impossible. they are going to stop energy production. that wipes out taxis and many other states. the going to get rid of your second amendment. the i've heard cut taxes, cut taxes. they want to double and triple your taxes. they want to quadruple your
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taxes. they want to take everything away from you. if they get in, it all collapses. do you know what's going to happen? people's wealth, whether it's big warm modest or whatever it is, you'll end up in a recession depression like we've never seen before. people's wealth will be destroyed. >> sean: you are the ultimate jury. 274 dales, eight you can shock the world. joining us now, ari fleischer and sarah sanders. good to see you both. seems to be a total freak out. ari fleischer come over bernie sanders. it might be understandable but what's more fascinating as they want to go back to the old rules so the superdelegates actually count again. >> absolutely. it's amazing having watched the democrats going through this four years ago and going through the allegation and everything was rigged. as i know it's not. no it's not. to go back and do it again.
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their fear is justified, sean. bernie has a legitimate shot at winning this thing not only here in iowa tonight but in new hampshire. who knows what can happen after that? it's a reflection of joe biden's weakness. we'll have to wait and see what the results here are in iowa but don't roll bernie out of winning the entire thing. >> sean: i don't rule it out at all. sarah sanders, the idea that now they are trying to help bloomberg out and they're going to change the rules and okay, we will let you win then. maybe you will be an alternative down the road of this blows up and karl rove may have been way ahead of the curve thing we might have a brokered conventi convention. >> i think one of the things this tells us is that they no longer have any confidence in the fact that joe biden is viable at this point. he looks very weak in iowa. his money has dried up. he is exciting no one. i think if he comes in anything but first tonight he's going to be in real trouble down the line. he's already having a hard time
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raising money. they have had to draw resources from other places and try to put it into iowa. he may be calling his son hunter and borrowing money from him to fund his campaign pretty soon if he doesn't have a big showing tonight. so far from what we've seen her wear hearing out of iowa is that's not looking good for him. >> sean: it's not. okay, i've never understood. ari fleischer, ifrigged republiy guy lost, i would've been pretty darn angry. we found out they did ray get the last time. i felt like at times i was the only person angry that this could happen in america. not quite sure bernie sanders supporters will accept it as easily this time. >> that's one of the reasons there is such a split in the democratic party. many of the bernie people were furious and they couldn't get over it. the fact that they couldn't is one of the reasons the nonburning people are so furious at the bernie people. they were saying they were slow and he didn't support hillary.
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that is still there and it can pop up again. let me make a broader point. there is a marvelous split screen going on here between democracy and action in iowa where hundreds of thousands of people will decide who's going to lead the democratic party and was happening in washington where 100 people might overturn a decision of the american people. this in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina is how it's supposed to work. that the american people decide these things. that contrast jumps out at me as i am here in iowa. i will look tomorrow at what happens in washington. >> sean: congressman mark meadows of north carolina, i know he's on the ground in iowa tonight and jim jordan and steve scalise have been on the ground. mark meadows literally called me and said you have no idea what's happening here and i said what's going on and he goes over, the caucuses are packed and i said oh, you're going to the democratic caucuses question when he goes no, the republican caucus is packed. it's an uncontested caucus for donald trump here. boy, is that an indicator of
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passion and enthusiasm for the president? there's really no reason anybody had to show up for the president tsai but apparently they showed up in big numbers. >> absolutely. i was with the president just last week when he was there for his rally and the excitement and energy. president trump was out of this world. it's unlike anything i've seen working you thought it was exciting in 2016. the president actually has a great record iran, a tremendous story to tell. the economy is booming. people are doing much better under this president than they were under his predecessor. they are excited to get out and vote for him. this is the first group of people that have their chance to go out and help reelect donald trump. they are excited to do it. they take it serious. there is no doubt there's a lot of excitement on the ground for
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donald trump in iowa and they are happy to be the first people that get to help get them reelected. >> sean: sarah sanders, ari fleischer, thank you. we are expecting results very soon. when we come back, will come back to the ground in iowa. who could face off against donald trump? thankfully this be 29 sham show rages on but it's over wednesday and democrats clearly don't want to give it up. chad pergram has an update. eric trump is here to react to the best commercial from the super bowl. he will tell us that and much more and why is left freaking out tonight? straight ahead. with va mortgage rates near record lows,
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voters in iowa are now deciding who their choices to go up against donald trump in november. the first in the nation caucus. fox news' alicia acuna's live in des moines and has the latest from the elizabeth warren campaign. what's the latest? >> hi, sean. we are here at the warren campaign. supporters haven't quite gotten here. the most excitement we've seen is that they brought food to feed the media and some of the staff members here and that's because all of those supporters are still of those caucuses that been going on for the last 90 minutes. they have to go to that first-round and in that second round think they can do any more convincing to get people in warren's corner if she wasn't their first choice. we are still waiting for the apple for the crowds start to gather here. as you know, elizabeth warren has often bragged that she was the first candidate to have organizational boots on the ground in iowa. she is really trying to go toward the same progressive base that bernie sanders is and for a
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while, she did see her star rise, especially the end of summer, the beginning of fall. that's when she really peaked in the polls and has really lost traction ever since. and is now in some of the larger polls, actually trailing third and fourth. will be awaiting those results, just like you. we are hearing anecdotally that turnout is pretty high right now. it could be a while until we have some official results. sean. >> sean: thank you for that report. mike tobin is at mayor pete buttigiegs headquarters. what is the latest? >> similar to what alicia is seen, it's a slow trickle of people coming into the watch party here at buttigieg campaign headquarters, the watch party i should say. his communications director liz smith tweeted a picture of him playing football, it looks like a rented office space. the buttigieg campaign goes into tonight pretty optimistic that they will perform well. they have to perform well. they have to perform well here and in new hampshire as well. by all expectations when they
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start getting to places like south carolina, it's going to be a little bit tougher for the buttigieg campaign if you look at the polls. nearby had a caucus side, inside a university. the population was pretty young. we saw that buttigieg was doing quite well and he had a big crowd. elizabeth warren had a big crowd. bernie sanders had a big crowd. joe biden and amy klobuchar had small crowds gathered up with that particular site. >> sean: mike tobin, thank you. the schumer-schiff sham show will be at a close on wednesday and today in washington, the impeachment managers deliver their closing arguments with their vote to acquit the president expected wednesday at 4:00 eastern. fox news congressional correspondent chad pergram is here with the latest. the hitchhikers guide to what will be the end of the schumer-schiff sham show. say it three times fast on live television. good luck to you. >> good evening, sean.
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we'll have those votes on articles of impeachment on wednesday afternoon. in blistering remarks, the lead house impeachment manager adam schiff warned that history would not be kind to president trump. he lectured republican senators "he is not who you are." pat cipollone said it was time to end what he termed the era of impeachment. developments tonight. alaska senator lisa murkowski was one republican that some observers thought could vote to convict mr. trump. and murkowski said she declared she would not vote to convict. democratic west virginia senator joe manchin didn't reveal how he would vote today but he introduced a resolution to censure president trump. in his resolution, manchin says that the president will abuse the trust of the american people and he says his behavior was unacceptable and mr. trump brought dishonor to himself. it's unclear if the senate will
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consider manchin's plan. it takes 67 votes to remove a president. in 1999, 45 senators voted to remove president clinton on one article of impeachment. and 50 on the other article. >> sean: chad pergram, thank you. over 100 million americans, 102 to be exact, watch the super bowl on sunday yesterday and my pick for the best commercial of the night, well, goes to somebody i think you are familiar with if you watch the show, somebody i think is one of the most, if not the most inspirational figures i've ever had the honor to interview put out by the trump campaign. take a look. >> i am free to hug my family. i am free to start over. this is the greatest day of my life. my heart is just bursting with gratitude. i want to thank president donald
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john trump. [cheering] >> i am donald trump and i approve this message. >> sean: she will be joining us exclusively as the week unfolds. here with reaction from the trump organization, executive vice president eric trump is with us. it's amazing how many people got an update from your very wonderful wife who said there's a ton of people and it's an uncontested caucus night for the president. i want to go back to this issue of prison reform in this president because other presidents promised they would do it and they never got it accomplished. just like jerusalem, the capital. just like for example ending the caliphate, not having protracted wars, trade deal with china, japan, mexico. european allies. energy independence. that's the short list.
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i have got to believe this matters when the american people go to the polls and 274 days. >> that's exactly right. it's one of the reasons, the super bowl commercial. i was so proud of my father. what he did with prison reform is incredible and justice reform. kim kardashian was a big part of that. he did something about it and it's driving the democrats nuts that something they tried to do that they would always promise and didn't get done and that reminds you of the democratic party in general. they say they are going to get things done and they never do. my father has done everything he said he would do and he has achieved so much more and i think that will be one of the hallmarks of his presidency and i'm incredibly proud that was the super bowl commercial. the spotlight needed to be put forth on the issue and he did so in a beautiful way. it was a kind touching and moving. it should make americans very proud. >> sean: has i am putting on
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my analysis hat for a second, having done radio for 31 years, my 24th year proudly here at the fox news channel. are we better off than we were four years ago? i would say check. does the president keep his promises? i would say check. heart of the president do on foreign policy? knocked out the caliphate in syria, baghdadi, associates, we are not in a protracted war any longer. the issue of the economy, every measure. african-americans, asian-americans, hispanic-americans, women in the workplace. best employment since 1969. millions out of poverty and millions off food stamps and millions of new jobs created including jobs and manufacturing that obama said were never coming back. that has to factor in and i would say one other thing. i would argue your father's bases more energized because of the way he has been treated the last three years by the media and by the democrats. >> i just spoke at a caucus outside des moines and it's
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incredible. he is running effectively uncontested here and there were hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who came just to see me. people came in holding trump science, wearing make america great hats. they were bringing their children. i walked into a room and they started clapping. usa, usa, it was unbelievable. the spirit in this country is different by every metric. consumer confidence tells you so much about where we are. the best consumer confidence we've ever had and look at where we are in terms of the military and patriotism. patriotism is back. people weren't kneeling at the super bowl yesterday. i think they went to the nth degree to showcase america's might and power and with the flag stands for and military. so much of that is back. my father has done an unbelievable job and we are seeing it on the ground, seeing it on the ground here in iowa. >> sean: a lot at stake in what i love about this more than anything, the ultimate jury is
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the american people. they get to decide. the odds are pretty good they may shock the world again. eric trump, thank you for being with us. when we come back, any movement, we are expecting any moment when there's movement to get results live out of iowa. the architect karl rove is here with his big white boards. he's going to break it down and what it will mean after tonight going to new hampshire and straight to super tuesday. voya . so we can spend a bit today, knowing we're prepared for tomorrow. wow, do you think you overdid it maybe? overdid what? well planned, well invested, well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement. it's hookset season. come in during the spring fever sale where, for a limited time, you can find huge savings on select rods, reels, and everything else you need to make this the best season yet.
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scenes. bret baier, martha, what do you think? >> bret: i think you're right. it's a tight race. we don't have any hard numbers. we have entrance data and the voter analysis data. looks like a very tight race. looks perhaps like mayor pete might be having a better night than people thought he would have. sanders very strong here in iowa, continues to show that. until we get those numbers out of those precincts from all those different moving around, we sure. >> martha: the first alignment numbers with a percent and a half in so far, it looks like it's potentially a good night for pete buttigieg, though it's really too early to say. he seemed to have had some momentum in the final days as we headed into the caucus here. as you say, bernie sanders feels very put upon by the rest of his party. they want to make sure that they get, that they get an honest outcome from tonight. there's a lot of forces very concerned about him doing well. i think that's been made pretty clear. it's going to be a story to
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watch tonight as well. >> sean: we will be watching all the coverage tonight throughout the evening on the fox news channel. , martha, thank you. we call it the weekly segment with the architect, the white boards. fox news contributor karl rove is joining us and i will give you credit. i read your first column and i went hmm as you talked about the potential maybe down the road for what would be a contested convention. this is going to be very interesting. we get the first round of resultant and you get below 15% and i will let you pick it up from there, what you see happening tonight. >> yeah, if you're at less than 15% of the precinct, you fail to get what's called viability. your supporters have to pick somebody else. or go home. that's the first, that's the alignment. then they have a final alignment where everybody who was for
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somebody below the viability threshold picked somebody else. those people then elect what are called delegate equivalents, people who go to the state convention representing their candidate. it's going to be a really confusing night because it's not a primary. that is to say if you get 35% of the vote it doesn't mean you get 35% of the delegates. four congressional delegates, two of them have -- the one here that includes des moines has eight. the republican part of the state in the northwest corner only gets five. there are 1700 precincts. they elect 27 delegates by congressional district and 14 statewide delegates could split up. every -- having more caucus attendees in any given precinct doesn't mean you get more strength in picking delegates. it means your percentage is higher within the pool that then either alexa congressional district chair or helps pick the
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statewide delegates, the 14th. it's very complicated and that the end of the night, we may know the state delegate equivalents but we will know roughly what the national conventions delegates look like but we won't know precisely for some time. >> sean: if you read politico earlier today and i know you know this, you have the democratic establishment. let's break it down to different factions, the obama supporting faction, the clinton supporting faction have aligned. they now want to change the rules so that well, maybe mayor bloomberg can become a backup or a safety net of some kind should bernie emerge as the real front runner which it appears he's doing. more importantly now they report that they may in fact change the rules about superdelegates again which could mean that they are actually preparing to do to bernie sanders if he's in that position, to do to him what they did to him in 2016 and kind of
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rig it against him. >> well, i talked to a member of the democratic rules committee who suggested that a member of the establishment, they suggested the establishment doesn't have the votes on the rules committee to do any further changes. i think it's far-fetched to think they're going to be able to change the rules. remember this. 40% of the delegates will have been by the end of the night on march 3 and they will be split up in my opinion among three or four candidates. even if there are only two people left at that point, and establishment and sanders, could be awfully hard to get a majority of those 52% of the delegates that are left to be chosen and walk into milwaukee with the clear majority on the first ballot. it could be done. it's going to be off lard to do. >> sean: you are the hearst karl rove's white board. he has a new one coming. it will be very special.
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>> sean: as we continue to monitor the latest developments out of the iowa caucuses and we send our own lawrence jones for the hawkeye state to get voters reactions to the democratic primary so far. >> have you decided who you are going to caucus for. >> i have. joe biden. >> biden. >> i would support any of them. >> if you like bernie has the most experience. >> do you believe that the party
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has treated him fairly this time? >> i hope so. all i can say is i hope so. >> i don't think any candidates are being treated more so. >> there's nothing against bernie here. >> sean: here with reaction, fox nation host and special correspondent for 2020, lawrence jones is with us. it's amazing. this surge by bernie, let's see if it becomes reality. if buttigieg makes the 15% cut off line tonight, lawrence, that's going to be interesting to see where the second choice goes. as people begin to fall off, they have an opportunity to support their second choice, where they will go. >> sean, it's clear there's a surge. you see their party insiders trying to get involved. they set a rule when it came to the people making the debate stage. they have changed the rules so mayor bloomberg can qualify to be on the stage.
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people are concerned that the party is getting involved. there is momentum. bernie is not just a fringe element. people on the ground, the supporters. we will see who pulled it off. biden is still ahead in the polls but there is still a surge from bernie. >> sean: unbelievable. you know, you see the surge now. you're also seeing it where we go next, new hampshire. seeing it in south carolina. what does that mean once you get a couple primaries and caucuses out of the way? does it mean momentum, mojo, whatever you want to call it? we will watch. >> especially when you consider the black vote going into south carolina. will biden recover? will the obama coalition cannot disappoint him? that's yet to be determined. >> sean: lawrence jones on the ground in iowa tonight. during my exclusive super bowl sitdown interview with the president, i did ask him about the media's disdain for his supporters and working-class americans. i specifically brought up what we all witness and shock with
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cnn fake news don lemon, whose recent efforts to degrade trunk voters, here's what the president had to say. he saw don lemon this past week on the laughing basically at trump supporters. smelly trump walmart shoppers, irredeemable's deplorables, americans, the comment obama made. bitter americans who cling to their bible, their god, and religion. it seems like there is a contempt for people to don't share their worldview. >> president trump: i watch this guy. he's a terrible -- he's not a smart person. at all. i watch that phony laugh. he was trying to act, puts his head down. there was nothing funny about what was said. >> sean: here with reaction, former arkansas governor, presidential candidate himself, katie pavlich is with us.
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irredeemable deplorables, smelly walmart shoppers, guilty. guilty, god, bibles, guilty. guilty as charged. what does this tell us about what people in the establishment elite class in d.c. and new york, l.a., san francisco, think about we the people? >> they live in their bubbles and they really don't get out much and they don't understand the rest of the country. all they are doing is driving more support to president trump for his reelection. they insulted over 80 million americans with that kind of stuff and don lemon giggling like an 8-year-old girl and his birthday party. i've never seen anything quite as ridiculous. cnn should have called and said you can't be a news anchor and fall down on your desk and giggle like that. it's unprofessional. let them do what they want to do. i'm telling you it's coming back to bite them.
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>> sean: people aren't watching. katie, we look at ratings every day. >> i saw cnn being played at the bernie rally there, sean, and was thinking they are actually getting millions of euros tonight because they were playing in the background. i think one of the most impressive and important messages the president has gotten out there who is that it's not that they just hate him. they hate the american people who voted for him. they are just in the way. they say that on the campaign trail. 25% of democrats. >> sean: i imagine that they have to say the words. in 274 days, we can project that donald j. trump has been reelected. it's worth the price of admission. straight ahead.ie for the exact same drugs. but they aren't listening. they've just raised the prices of over five hundred drugs. president trump supports a bipartisan plan, that would force drug companies to lower prices. but the senate won't act. tell senate leaders to stop drug company price gouging
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