we looked behind the scenes of iowa, the coverage fiasco that it was. you can download that on itunes or wherever you listen. i'm going to go get ready for "the five" and i will see you there in a couple hours. in the meantime, a big treat for you. here is bill hemmer. >> bill: thank you, dana. fox news alert. coronavirus on the cruise ships. you're looking at a royal caribbean ship that made an unscheduled stop at a port in new jersey. passengers are being tested for the rapidly spreading virus. reports of cases on other ships around the world today, as the outbreak expands. hundreds of americans at risk. you will hear from one this hour and you will hear from a doctor tracking the disease and the passenger currently quarantine in 217 square foot of room on a cruise ship. all of that is coming up short shortly. ♪ are reporting begins, i am bill

bill hammer. democrats making their pushing new hampshire before the primary tuesday. we don't have a clear official winter in iowa. pete buttigieg and bernie sanders locked in nearly a tie in that state and there are concerns about the accuracy of the account. it appears that buttigieg is surging in the second big election contest. the average of polling shows buttigieg up eight points in five days. team fox coverage. ellison barber begins our reporting in new hampshire. hello. >> hey, bill. bernie sanders and pete buttigieg declared victories in iowa and now they are focused on new hampshire. things are starting to heat up. this morning started with direct attacks. senator bernie sanders criticizing pete buttigieg by name during the classic politics and eggs breakfast. >> reading some headlines from newspapers about pete buttigieg.

pete buttigieg has most exclusive billionaire democrats of any democrats. i like pete buttigieg. he's a nice guy. but we are in a moment where billionaires control not only our economy but our election. >> of the vermont senator is taking it to twitter using the hashtag open turtle. buttigieg dealt with this same sort of attack from elizabeth warren. that's how most of us learned what a wine cave was. the former mayor of south bend has pushed back on this criticism in part by pushing back, that he's one of the only candidates who is a millionaire. >> i am a fan of beating donald trump in what we have to do, the mayor of south bend, indiana, is not an establishment

fund-raising powerhouse. >> a couple months ago i was at a forum in pennsylvania and afterwards pete buttigieg was asked by someone why he accepted money from pro-charter school donors when he said he supported public education. he said whenever he gets any sort of check, even if it's the legal limit of a donation, he says he only makes one promise to those people who donate and he says it's that he will use their money in order to beat donald trump. he has set a number of times in the past that's the only promise he makes anyone. he believes beyond that, his policy positions are clear. >> bill: thank you. back in iowa, the campaigns are getting more time to request a re-canvass of the results. the race in a statistical tie between bernie sanders and pete buttigieg. mike tobin reports live in des moines. >> the iowa democratic party

extended until monday the deadline for the campaigns to request a re-canvassing. the campaigns like they would be impacted, the buttigieg and sanders campaigns. they are neck and neck according to iowa numbers, separated by less than a percentage point. the buttigieg campaign tells me they've never been interested in re-canvassing. their efforts are focused on new hampshire. bernie sanders has said he's had enough of the iowa mass. the only one who seems to have shown any interest in the re-canvassing is dmt chair tom perez who fired off that nasty tweet saying "enough is enough." he continues to blame iowa democrats. >> the iowa democratic party runs the caucus. what happened was unacceptable. >> political reports democrats are criticizing perez for showing no leadership in iowa, and some are calling for him to step down. in iowa, a precinct worker tells us the party is built by volunteers, not guys like parents. -- like perez.

>> our successes from the bottom up, not the top down. i'm not too particularly surprised that there's some different vantage points. >> indicated that the national party was not communicating with the state party, shortly after perez fired off that tweet calling for the re-canvassing, the state party chair, troy price, responded saying only the campaigns can call for the re-canvassing. thus far we are not seeing any interest from the campaigns. >> bill: here we go. thank you, mike tobin in des moines. we want to show you on the billboard, a look at new hampshire. the success bernie sanders has had in that state for some time. the results from 2016 are pretty extraordinary for him. the battle against hillary clinton, he won all ten counties in the state of new hampshire. winter by 22 points. here is what is at stake on tuesday. the first tuesday, new hampshire, 24 delegates on the line and the governor is with us from new hampshire, chris sununu.

thank you for your time. i know the folks in new hampshire take this very seriously. let me get to that in a moment. what what axel and why pete buttigieg is making the run he is at the moment. >> i can't speaks for pete here in new hampshire. new hampshire does things a little differently. he had good results in iowa. anytime you get a bump out of iowa, it can help you in new hampshire but so much will change between now and tuesday. this is where a lot of the folks in new hampshire, on the republican and democrat side will start looking at the candidates. we spent a lot of months getting to know these folks one-on-one as individuals. now see where the rubber meets the road. >> bill: here is what we are hearing. people over the age of 65 are moving away from joe biden and going to buttigieg. do you buy that today? >> no, not necessarily.

that might've been the case two days ago but not necessarily the case two days from now. what happens tonight at the debate, what happens over the next few days, how hard they look at new hampshire, i think all these candidates has to step up and recognize the first in the nation primary. it's not just a nice 100 year tradition. we have earned this primary. we do it right. we are 100% right 100% of the time and one on the percent reliable. that messaging is going to be important. it's a big thing after the iowa debacle. however they connected with the constituency? that comes into play. there could be shifting. tulsi gabbard isn't even on the stage tonight. i think that's a major misstep by the democratic party because i think she could do very well here and surprise some folks. joe biden hasn't had a lot of the energy here in new hampshire that i think a lot of folks expected. i think he's going to do very well in the south. this is the first litmus test for the country. >> bill: i think you laid it

out very well. does iowa have any impact on new hampshire? >> no. other than highlighting the fact that new hampshire knows how to do it right. no. the result of i will have no impact. i don't even know if we are going to get results from iowa by the time tuesday comes along. >> bill: two more points. late deciders, 45% of primary growers make their decision up over the weekend? why is that? >> that's absolutely right. we have to get to know folks one-on-one. we need to look at the candidate in the eye and say okay, we have to see was a person. then we get to the policy. we have a high voter participation. it's not like single-digit percentage that you see in iowa. we have a credibly high voter participation and we will likely have another record year for a primary with an incumbent president. therefore people wait. they do. you have to earn it up until the last minute. that's what pete is doing now.

>> bill: do you think bernie sanders his as strong this year as he was four years ago? yes or no? >> he is definitely strong, no doubt about it. because he is strong, the real contrast is going to be this summer when you see the real progressives fighting it out with a more moderate democrats of the democratic convention. it's going to be an absolute mess. because they are not going to be able to get it together, there's going to be a brokered convention. trouble have a lot of momentum. >> bill: he has a rally in manchester monday. how would you gauge his level of strength among folks living in new hampshire today? >> very high. because we are a state that focuses on the individual, we focus on the economy, individual liberties. live free or die estate. this are things the president has an incredible record of success on it that well here. he can take a lot of credit for

it. it's going to be a lot of energy and positivity. while the democrats are complaining away about an economy that's created economic prosperity. people will vote on it. we have the strongest economy in the northeast. we are bringing in families and businesses. the trump tax cuts work, no doubt about it. we focus on the individual here in new hampshire, not big government and big systems. that's what donald trump is all about. his ragged tory reform, usmca agreement, huge win for new hampshire with our trade across the border with our friends in canada. they are wins for the president and that's why he's going to really be effective in sidelining the messaging on the democratic party. >> bill: thank you, governor chris sununu. back on the board, i want to show you how close it is in iowa. on the board behind me. we mention 100% of the precincts have been counted. we'll see whether or not the

recounting issue goes anywhere. you have 0.1% separating buttigieg from bernie sanders. how does buttigieg win? you see the counties along the mississippi river, the eastern side of iowa. they will tell you if you want to win the state, you have to win in these counties and that's where buttigieg did. let's see what happens tuesday. in a moment, west virginia democratic senator joe manchin on why he decided to convict the president and what he thinks about criticism from one of his own senate colleagues in his state. he will respond. the white house economic advisor larry kudlow will be here to talk about jobs, the economy, and the impact of the virus outbreak on the world. that's all straight ahead. who's peter? well sweetie, he's your great-great grandfather. here, does he look like me? yeah. your family's story is waiting to be shared. at ancestry.com

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>> bill: three democratic senators and states president trump won in 2016 voted to convict him in the trial this week. senator joe manchin of west virginia and yesterday i spoke to his republican colleague and that state. senator shelley moore capito or who claims west virginians are mystified by his vote. >> it's not being received well here at home. probably senator schumer just pulled the noose a little tight and said come on, we are going to jump off this cliff together. back here in west virginia, they are very surprised. >> bill: today senator manchin wanted a chance to respond. he's here to respond now. senator, thank you for your

time. your first tv interview after the vote on the articles. ultimately acquitted. what do you think of what senator capito had to say? >> she is my friend. we see this different. we talk about it. we see it different and i think shelly knows. i don't know why the statement was made, who knows. the bottom line is that shelley knows me well enough that no one can pull my chain are tired noose around me. i'm the most conservative democrat in all of congress. my goodness. i've taken some tough votes that are very unpopular with the caucus and i'm sure that schumer and everybody else might not of been happy with it but it's a vote that i can live with. i said if i can come home and explain it, i can vote for it. i can explain this vote. it might not be popular in my state but we will see. history will tell. the bottom line is the evidence was very clear and i was hoping, i truly was hoping that we would see evidence, that we would see

new witnesses. maybe he could get some doubt or clarity. what we saw was overwhelming. >> bill: you floated the idea of a censure. that went nowhere. how do you go from censure to guilty on both counts? >> i was looking to see if there was any evidence to slow it down. let's see if we can get more input. i thought censure might've been a way we could've gotten that bipartisan and i wanted it to be bipartisan. i did everything i could but everyone was already in the trenches. they weren't moving. i labored over this and it was the most difficult decision i've ever made since i've been in congress or in public life. i've never been on jury duty before. to sit and listen to all of the testimony back and forth and back and forth. i took the president and his word when he said i cannot get a fair trial in the house but i definitely can get one in the senate. i wanted to make sure he didn't. i wanted to make sure that he

got witnesses, what he said he wanted, and i thought that would be clarity. that never came. the game plan was basically i guess only two ways you can look at it. if you're not going to give us any new witnesses in your -- the defense is not going to fight, then they're going to say it's not defendable. the charges that were made. or you already had the account on the jury on the jury was yours. that's not the oath i took. >> bill: you know how popular the president is in your home state. >> sure. >> bill: you have three more years on your term. 2022. >> 2024. >> bill: i apologize. you tweeted out that politics had no factor in your decision. what do you say to the people back home about that? >> people -- 37 plus years in public service in many different positions and governor. the bottom line is you don't always agree with the decisions i've had to make but i think they all know that i will take it very seriously i will look at

it and do my due diligence and i did. i haven't studied anything more thoroughly than this. the thing that kept getting into it was basically federalist 65 when hamilton labored over this more than anything else. impeachment, involvement of a foreign government. there was no doubt that what the president's phone call was in reference to basically zelensky doing a favor. the most powerful person in the world calls the most inexperienced new leader of a country that's fighting russia in their own backyard and that's just an affront that i couldn't get over. the only difference that was made was dershowitz, professor dershowitz seeing if the president does it and if it's in the best interest of the country and that means him doing whatever, even for his election, then it's okay. i can't get there. that's not what the constitution says. >> bill: jerry nadler asked if they were going to investigate and again and he gave an

indication they were willing to pursue other avenues of investigation. do you think this comes back perhaps the next year? do you think they are crazy? >> well, i'm hoping that the president has learned, mr. president, we are equal powers. we were designed differently than any other, any other government in the -- >> bill: i understand where you are going with that answer but would you support your democratic colleagues pursuing this again? >> no, absolutely not, unless the president continues and using rogue proxies such as rudy giuliani running around playing with foreign policy within the election process. i would think that the president would not do that and i don't think -- if he didn't realize he did it, it did happen and it's got to stop. one person who was voted with him and had a good relationship with the president, if it moved me that much, because i usually give him the benefit of the doubt. this move me that much. i would hope he would take a pause and say hey, we are not

doing this anymore. rudy, you are out of the game. we are not playing this anymore. >> bill: thank you for your time. we will speak again soon. joe manchin. thank you for your time. passengers onboard cruise ships quarantine over concern over coronavirus. some leaving the anthem of the season heading to the hospital. get a live report where that ship is docked next. th statins-o 75% persistent cardiovascular risk still remains. th statins-o many have turned to fish oil supplements. others, fenofibrates or niacin. but here's a number you should take to heart: zero-the number of fda approvals these products have, when added to statins, to reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease. ask your doctor about an advancement in prescription therapies with proven protection. visit truetoyourheart.com

>> bill: fox news alert. investigators say there is no evidence of engine failure and helicopter crash that killed kobe bryant, his daughter, and seven others. the ntsb released a report saying that the helicopters engines were working at the time of the crash. the evidence they say it looks like the helicopter rotor cut a tree branch at the crash site. the ntsb continues to look into

the cause, including what role heavy fog mail played. a final report is not expected for at least a year. a public memorial for bryant and the other victims is set for the 24th of february at the staples center in los angeles. the day chosen because kobe bryant were number 24 on his jersey and his daughter were number 2. meanwhile, the coronavirus outbreak has killed more than 600, infected tens of thousands across 25 countries. thousands of people under quarantine on several crew ships. one doctor in new jersey and another near hong kong and the third of the coast of japan. some passengers have tested positive for the virus on board. >> quarantine obviously which we knew was going to happen but we shouldn't be in this type of condition and exposed to the virus. >> 400 americans were so. >> we need help. we are in a desperate stage.

>> bill: bryan llenas is live across the river in new jersey, some passengers from that ship are already in the hospital. >> bill, good afternoon. all passengers on board "anthem of the seas" that docked here this morning in bayonne, new jersey have all disembarked. all but four passengers who were sent to a local hospital for further evaluation and testing for possible coronavirus. the governor of new jersey, phil murphy, said that the passengers this morning were met by cdc personnel who screened 27 passengers who were from china. 23 of those passengers were immediately cleared but those four passengers that i mentioned were taken to the hospital. royal caribbean says one of those four passengers tested positive for influenza a, or the flu. in his statement, royal caribbean says "none of the four guests showed any clinical signs or symptoms of coronavirus while they were on board our ship. other guests have been permitted

to disembark as usual." one passenger we spoke to, a chinese national, he said that he was isolated and put in a restaurant with these other 26 passengers. he said he hadn't lived or been to china in three years and now he's afraid for his health. most passengers that we spoke to after they disembarked said royal caribbean made no mention of what was happening at the time and they don't really sound too concerned moving forward. >> they said they were testing people for the virus that was only this morning. never heard anything all week. >> a heightened level of concern for yourself and other passengers? >> not for me. i just wanted to get off. >> the "anthem of the seas" has been given the all clear to set sail after an abundance of caution. they are going to set sail on the next cruise tomorrow. it was supposed to be this afternoon. royal caribbean has change their travel restrictions. they will no longer allow any

passenger that holds a passport from china or hong kong to board on any of their crew ships at least through the end of february. that is brand-new. >> bill: what about the other crew ships under quarantine? how are they doing and what are you hearing? >> we know that there are 11 americans so far been diagnosed with coronavirus who were onboard the diamond princess cruise that's now under a 14 day quarantine until february 19 off the coast of japan. the japanese government order that quarantine. the ship is just off the coast of japan and on top of all of that, in addition to that, we know that two u.s. state department evacuation plans carrying over 300 americans from the virus epicenter in china will one flight landed in san diego and the other in san antonio and the third plane set to arrive in nebraska. these evacuees will be quarantined over the next 14

days and u.s. military bases. >> bill: it takes some patience. what is the cdc saying about this? how long before we get a real handle on this? what's the forecast? >> the cdc, their message now is that they believe this is a low risk to americans. it continues to be a low risk for americans. they just want people to continue to be on alert. there's still a level three travel alert out there. no unnecessary travel. they -- don't go to china if you don't desperately need to. on top of that, they had some advice for anybody who wants to get on a cruise ship. they said if you want to get on a cruise ship to the caribbean, use your judgment. that's fine. if you want to get on a cruise ship that's going to be going to japan or hong kong or asia, that's up to you. but you should probably maybe think twice before you go and understand the risks that come with it. >> bill: a lot of fear out there. thank you. thank you, bryan llenas in jersey.

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>> bill: markets following after hitting all-time highs yesterday. the reason it's down is because of the coronavirus in large part. according to the jobs report, we added 225,000 jobs. unemployment rate up at 3.6% but still right at the 50 year low. larry kudlow is president trump's economic advisor. hello, welcome to the program and thank you for your time from the white house. good afternoon. >> thank you. congratulations on the new show. >> bill: i appreciate that. don't be a stranger. we will get to the headwinds but first the tailwinds. i know you've got good news.

give us what you believe is the headline we will dig into the numbers. >> 225,000, beat expectations. by the by, the household survey from which unemployment is derived, that was up over 400,000. the unemployment rate, 3.6%, that ticked up a little bit for good reasons. lots and lots of people are reentering the labor force. about 3.5 million people have reentered the labor force under president trump's tenure. they are still going strong. our calculations on the employment population ratio suggests that there is another 6 million people that could enter the labor force. no inflation. i just have got to say the middle class boom, the blue-collar boom, continues, bill hemmer. >> bill: that was a message from earlier. larry, it's evident that companies need employees.

and you want good talent. what is the white house policy to ensure that the workforce grows in that way? like these tech companies looking for sophisticated workers. what are you going to do about that? >> we have had tremendous campaign led by my colleague and friend ivanka trump for training, retraining, re-skilling, as she puts it. she's been in touch with over 400 corporations covering roughly 15 million workers. we are doing this to the private sector because these government training programs have proven not to work. we are covering a wide swath of the american economy and you can convert people and retrain them and rescale them -- re-skill them. one reason people are coming out of the woodwork back into the

labor force, wages are up. average weekly earnings for production workers, bill hemmer, 5.2%. that's a huge number. >> bill: very important. >> their friends are working. their brother-in-law is working. their sister-in-law is working. women comprise the largest part of the labor force. and they know, because of advertising and whatnot, word-of-mouth, they know that they can come and be trained to do the new work in the technology economy. it's huge part of it. >> bill: here we go on the numbers. the president says he inherited a mess. speaker pelosi came in with headwinds. there weren't as bad as he says. these are the jobs created over the past three years. 6.5 million, the previous three years, 8.07 million. is that a mess, or was the curve in your favor? >> look, by the way, the last

two years of the prior administration were very soft years. we created 7 million with the revisions, 7 million jobs in three years. the prior administration had an outflow workers leaving the labor force. we had an inflow of 3.5 million. the wage change is really crucial. i know the other side of the aisle paints or tries to paint a picture the economy is in recession. the middle class is getting killed, and only seven fat cats on wall street are making money, oh -- okay question mike that's the biggest cognitive dissonance have ever heard. the winners in the last three years are the blue-collar workers and the lower rungs of the wages which are rising much faster than the top wrong. even on things like the stock market.

>> bill: give me a chance to get in. >> household wealth is mostly -- the increase in household wealth is mostly 50%. >> bill: i get it. manufacturing jobs have been up over the past three years. close to 500,000. the previous three years, 288,000. i know you want that number to be higher. it was suggested that it was a little stronger but some softening in the manufacturing sector. gdp, average gdp growth 2.5%. under obama it was 2.3%. you and others have said blow by 3%. it hasn't happened. how come? >> we had it going up to the middle of 2018. 3.5 to 4 paris got smashed by some tight money by our friends at our local central bank at the federal reserve. that's correct. it did not help. it was unnecessary because there

hadn't been a whit of inflation. overseas growth has been nil. that hasn't helped as much as we would like. i will acknowledge, and i've spoken to to the president directly. he has negotiated two huge trade deals. one with china and one with north america. usmca variable also gotten some out of japan and korea but those with the big ones. i acknowledged that there was some negotiating uncertainty that may have slowed down cap x which is where the weakness has come. last night president xi and president trump had a very good phone call. president xi reaffirmed the chinese purchases of u.s. exports, a couple hundred billion. it might take another few months because of the virus but they reoccur in that, they slashed tariffs. the other -- my point is the uncertainty factor is coming down. i think that could give us extra

strength on the gdp reports. >> bill: last point, the coronavirus. the president characterized the conversation is positive. he thinks president xi will figure it out. is the coronavirus the kind of thing that could suggest an end to the cycle? do you see that as a possibility? is there something else out there on the horizon they could bring the bulls back? >> the coronavirus essentially is a china problem. we are doing everything we can to help them, by the way, offering advice, sending smart people over there and so forth. it's not a u.s. problem. the american economy, the impact will be very, very, very small. you've had two months of the virus. the january numbers. we know factually, the january numbers are coming in great, not just jobs but manufacturing and services, low unemployment claims, strong housing.

we haven't seen any i economic impact. our internal numbers they may be .2% of the first quarter but that's not going to end the growth cycle. if anything, i will give some president trump some credit here, strong state of the union message, confidence, optimism, tax cuts and deregulation in energy and good trade deals. he's reinvigorated and restructured and rebuilt this economy. it's almost like we are starting a new recovery cycle, and that's why things will go on for several years. >> bill: several years? would you predict a new trade deal with the u.k. or e.u. before the election? >> very hard to predict. good improvement on the e.u. they have a new president, new trade negotiator. good meetings with bob lighthizer yesterday. i spoke to mr. hogan afterwards. intensity and enthusiasm. we would love to have an fda with our cousins in the united kingdom and

prime minister boris johnson. does he get done this year? i don't know. it might. the president love to see it but we are all working very hard. more trade means more exports, more exports means more high-paying jobs. >> bill: your headline today is that you think this can continue for several years. >> that is my headline. >> bill: thank you, larry! nice to see you from the white house. larry kudlow, come back soon. have a good weekend. democrats coming off a week that included a confusing caucus result in iowa and the republican-led senate vote to acquit the president. now the focus was on to new hampshire. a debate later tonight prime time. former dnc interim chair donna brazile joins me with her take on that in a moment. all th. now we're debt free and visiting places like this... thank you guys

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he also said the democratic caucus is run by the party in that state. donnie brazil, former interim chair of the dnc, fox news contributor in l.a. today. hello, donna. >> i am in northern california. i'm not on the red carpet. not on the red carpet. if i was in l.a., i would have on a different outfit. >> bill: you are always on red carpet. marcia fudge, democrat from ohio says is tom perez should step down. should he offer his regulation? >> not at all. chairman perez is under a lot of pressure as you can well imagine, the turbulence of iowa is behind us and that we have to focus on the granite state. the silver state in the palmetto state. we have three more states in the preseason before super tuesday. i think we should focus on getting the mechanics right and assuring that every vote is counted accurately.

>> bill: i see three things developing. i see sanders still strong. i see buttigieg's urging. it appears joe biden has acute? -- a huge? >> before we decide to tell someone they are not surging, wait until the voters in new hampshire, they have the reputation of looking over the candidates and deciding that they want to go with the so-called front runners or give somebody a little boost. we will figure out what the granite voters. >> bill: so you're not buying into the buttigieg bump? that's what i take from that answer. >> you know, had we not dealt with all the problems with the app, i think most americans, i've included, would really look back at the results and say for the first time in our nation's history, an openly gay man basically won the iowa caucuses. that's a big step in our long

road to making sure this is a country that allows everyone to serve. >> bill: i saw you in iowa and i know you weren't happy especially at 1:00 in the morning. we can agree on that. peggy noonan writes this. she calls the democrats, the fiasco in iowa, foolishness, state of the union. do they realize how bad they look? you saw that piece. what did you think? >> bill, you've known me for a long time. i have been involved in politics since the age of nine. i don't allow one week to rock my world. i won't even allow one month to rock my world. what will rock us is 270 days from today, if we fail, if we fail to send donald trump home with a pink slip. >> bill: she says if trump wins reelection, it will be traceable to the first week in february. mark your calendar. we will see if she's right. see you in new hampshire. see you on the red carpet. thank you, donna. have a great weekend.

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>> the coronavirus now infecting more than 31,000 people around the world. want bring in professor of edison, nice to see you, doctor. what happens with this virus might do you think? >> right now, seeing over 31,000 cases in china around wuhan with over 6,000 deaths. we are not seeing sustained deaths but i think we will. so my prediction is that over the next month or so, we might call it a pandemic which is another scare word but it doesn't mean a severe pandemic, it just means it's taking root in other places in the world. we may not be the country

because we are doing a great job, cdc and our other health authorities at isolating these cases. here's another point no one is making his around april when it starts to get warmer and more humid, respiratory viruses don't spread very well and they all die out. that includes the flu. this coronavirus as well as the flu is likely to die it out toward the end of april. i think it will get worse before it gets better, yes. although the world health organization is trying to help out in china to get this contained. cdc is sending 2,000 test kits around the united states so people can get tested. a lot depends on the public health response here. it could be more coordinated and trying to stop the suppression part of this, maybe that will play a role. not, it is going to get worse before it gets better.

>> what we learned is what you said, the risk in america is still very low. >> it is going to remain that way if we continue to be vigilant on travel and isolate people who have it. seems to be as contagious as the flu and probably as deadly as the flu but we are still learning about it. in japan, we are watching at to see how easy it is spreading, that tells us how contagious it is. >> there is perspective here, 12 americans with the virus, 20 million americans with the flu. how do you separate fear from reality? >> you just did. people out there need to know that if you have fever and fatigue and a cough and short of breath, that's going to be the flu, there are 20 million cases of the flu out there this year. how could it be coronavirus with 12 cases? we worry and over personalize the risk and you said this to me, because it is a new, because it is unknown, because it is mysterious. we think it could happen to us because it's deadly and i

understand those emotions but the reality is the risk o remais extremely low. >> the difference between fear and reality is both can actually be true. >> there is a real thing, it is spreading even more than the coronavirus is but you still have to be vigilant on the coronavirus as well because it is truly a respiratory illness that can get to us. that's why there is so much work on the vaccine going on right now. seeing tremendous candidates for vaccine based on a prior sars vaccine. we won't have the vaccine by the fall if we need one if the virus comes back. >> in the meantime, all these folks stranded on cruise ships looking for relief. >> they have to face their fear. >> thank you. we are going to run, hope you have a great weekend, and what a week it was and who knows what we get into next. will be a new hampshire starting sunday and coverage from up

there in the northeast with the first primary getting underway and hope you have a great weekend, everybody. stocks a bit of a drag today but neil will cheer you up, coming up next. have a wonderful weekend, oaks. >> neil: you are looking live at a royal caribbean ship that is stuck in new jersey at least until tomorrow, for passengers on the ship, it is not to say they have it, they were tested for it and exhibiting symptoms of it. all the other passengers close to 5,000 have been released. but when you want to get on that ship when it has a repositioning journey. today we ask and you decide. glad to have you here, it is not just ships, 300 americans evacuated from wuhan china arriving today on charter flights landing in california and texas. those passengers will not be

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