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howie: buzzfeed to have sunday in a media frenzy that ricochet from iowa debacle to state of the union and senate trial, president trump finally found not guilty on the two charges of impeachment. >> but this is what the end result is. [cheers and applause] >> most predictable thing that's happened, the headline you could have written with total confidence months ago, president trump acquitted by u.s. senate. >> president donald trump acquitted of two charges, abuse of power and obstruction of congress by senator that is were able to excuse trump's crimes.
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>> senator mitt romney taking a courageous stand vote to go convict president trump. >> we don't see things like that that was a classic profile encouraged speech. >> romney is going to be associateed with benedict arnold forever when he's not a footnote or or footnote on his betrayal. >> for the first time in my life i commit romney. >> if i have to move there to run against him in 4 and a half years, i will. howie: why one senator out of 100 became the media story? others slam her and the
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democrats as corrupt people. chaotic caucuses left media with no numbers, no results and not much to say. >> we thought we had prepared for every contingency, this is the one we didn't prepare for, we will try to piece it together. howie: plus rush limbaugh is battling lung cancer. i'm how wards kurtz -- howard kurtz and this is media buzz. ♪ ♪ howie: we are covering development story out of the bronx where two police officers is have been shot in less than 24 hours, first attack occurring last night when an offer and policeman was shot at after a
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man approached asking for directions, the second incident happening earlier this morning when the gunman shot officer in the arm, inside 44 precinct stations, both officers are recosting and we will bring you updates throughout the day. 52-48, the president has brief and revealing moment at the thee national prayer breakfast. >> do i my best. >> i don't know if the president understand but we do pray, i pray hard for him because he's so off the track of our constitution, our values. >> then came the victory lap at the white house. >> it was evil, corrupt, it was
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dirty cops, it was leakers and liars. nancy pelosi is a horrible person. howie: mollie hemingway, melanie zanonna, mollie, guilty but acquitted, some people say acquittal didn't count because it wasn't a fair trial? >> it kind of ended up, ended upturning out poorly for them, not only was he acquitted despite what they said guilty but acquitted, that's not how that works, msnbc, it also was the time when president trump saw his approval ratings go way up, highest that they've been throughout his presidency, the
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republican party's ratings went up as democrats went down, it went poorly for them and they were trying to pretend it hadn't again as poorly as they did. >> the one thing that the media did agree this is trump's best week soaring approval rate negotiation gallup, the fact that he was acquit, got great reviews from his own party of state of the union, strong job's report on friday, that's one area that everyone is in agreement. low howie: do you think everyone is in agreement? that's not the dominant thing that i'm seeing on some of the other channels? >> democrats on capitol hill this -- howie: right, but do you think that's the media consensus publicly? >> yeah, i absolutely do, in politico we have winners and losers and president trump is at the top. howie: it's hard to move on when the day after impeachment the
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democrats denounce -- i'm wondering could it be in the media's interest to keep investigating ukraine and talk about impeachment because it remains a juicy story and the ratings are good? >> they are saying deployment and manpower, question, news rooms are smaller than they were 20 years ago even though there's so much more to talk about and so much more to cover. can you really devote two people of this staff bird dogging this continually now that the passing parade continues to move on and it's an open question on many places where the need is greater especially in the middle of the campaign, especially primary season and especially in the middle of other stories. howie: we are all being stretched pretty thin, mitt romney vote to go convict and remove president trump, the first senator in history to do that against his own party in
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impeachment trial. let's see what he had to say on the floor and with chris wallace. >> my faith is at the heart of who i am, i take an oath before god as consequential. chris: you realized this is war, donald trump will never forgive you for this? >> but on the other side do you do what you know is right, do you know what your conscious around your heart tells you. howie: many journalists not just liberal people who are praising romney as senior statesman act of conscious and all that, some are saying gop nominee heartless businessman and just plain weird. >> in fact, the media treatment of mitt romney explained so much about current moment, republican voters saw that you could nominate someone literally like mitt romney and still have him portrayed in the media as if you were hitler. howie: ray, there's a flip side to this and we saw in the open, many media conservative who is
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did back romney in 2020, he should resigned, he should be kicked out of the republican party and tarred and fettered because trump had abused power. >> i guess you don't have to call a vote and you check how many republicans are in the senate and how many democrats em's as score f more, people had voted out of the party affiliation, he would have been less of a story, but being the sole decenter, concentrated a lot more attention on him than he would have gotten otherwise. >> yeah, a lot more attention on mitt romney than there was on the house democrats who defected on the house side which i thought was interesting but, you know, from my perspective on capitol hill, romney's defection was much more surprised than house democrats especially in senate trial, we knew the outcome, those were up there every day, we didn't think vote would prevail but when romney did come out -- howie:
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everything else was predictable. >> the good hint if the media appraises you it's not courageous, they didn't do a good job why conservative voters didn't like what mitt romney did, they portrayed it as he was just betraying trump. the way he rolled out the media thing showed that he cared very much about being portrayed well by the media, long history of animus toward trump made it difficult to hear argument that he was doing this in good faith and most importantly he hurt republicans an helped democrats with his vote. >> interesting moment there, in 2 years, last generation in washington, if you give faith as part of an explanation for why you did something, it's usually hands off. people are very conscious about calling that into question. we are now in an era where you use that as explanation, you can still be doubted, smeared and called hypocrite by members of
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your own party. fascinating people. >> it's important that people do talk about faith and that the media understand how they talk about faith, the issue there being a lot of people were motivate bid their faith and hearing that argument, you know, only hearing it from one person that their faith motivated them when many people did have argument. >> he did give interview to fox news and wasn't play to go liberal media. the day after the president praising allies and ripping into his detractors and we look at the cnn, trump vindictive and acquittal celebration, trump vindictive and vulgar and john, hired as cnn white house correspondent, right from cnbc had this to say. >> it was dark because he's made clear that his mind is dark, this is something in deep psychological distress right
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now, self-pitying, insecure, angry. howie: hardwood, describe as psychological distress. >> the president was accused of being a trader and the media pushed the narrative, they won awards for pushing the narrative, they were completely exposed as not being good reporters, they are embarrassed and in a position right now to accurately describe what is going on, people can hear the speech themselves, the media seem unable because they're implicated in this false story that led to this acquittal. howie: opinion people can say it's vulgar, do you think melanie that journalists should
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be more cautious, i asked a number of times in describing the president's state of mind, he's unhinged, all the negative attributes as prescribed by the arm's chair psychologist to have media? >> yeah, we have to be vigilant on how we approach the issue, i don't know if hardwood was making conversation caused on sources and feelings and analysis. i can't speak to that, i will say that the president has an unorthodox way of communicating even 4 years into the presidency with strong response of the media. not a speech, not a victory speech, i don't know if all the reporters knew how to cover it. howie: the president loved headline, acquittal, the amazon washington post. it's clear that the elite media
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opinion here is that he should have been convicted and republicans were cowards were not standing up for the president? >> well, several republicans also conceded that he did what he was accused of and they just didn't find that it rose to the level -- howie: go ahead. >> they, concluded, no, we don't remove for this kind of thing, boy, i wish he hadn't had done it, yes, the editorial pages, the unsigned opinion pieces under the mask head wanted the president to go in many cases, there were a lot of papers that didn't. howie: many of the big national papers obviously as we just said wanted him to go. when we come back the iowa caucus chaos average democrats, embarrassment for journalists and later tearing tout state of the union, even liberal pundits are saying nancy pelosi went too
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♪ ♪ ♪ howie: it's just mindbogglingly 3 long days after caucuses democrats finally give media some final results showing pete buttigieg with a minuscule lead over bernie sanders and party reviewing inconsistencies in dozens of precincts, melanie zanona, partial numbers next day, how do you not conclude that it's not a fiasco? >> it was really difficult in the hours after the results didn't come in, what do you talk about when there's no results to go off of, what i will say is pete buttigieg did a good job of winning the spin game, he declared victory and the media ran with it because they didn't have a whole lot to go out with that. howie: he took out flak from that. if buttigieg had been declared by winner even by a hair as
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normal process, couldn't there have been explosion of positive media stories and wasn't he kind of robbed? >> the media coverage it gives you heading out of it, the next morning the newspapers all declared winner and you're on morning shows, before the caucuses we were told there were 4 different measures of how you declare to be a winner, the first vote, the second vote, the state delegate issue and number of delegates and bernie sanders won two of the metrics, he tied in the third and only in the fourth one, confusing issue with delegates is he narrowly behind. he didn't get his due on the way media is covering it proud the process. howie: i agree with both of those. buttigieg has been being to go on fox a lot. joe biden and elizabeth warren who are trailing not so much. bernie sanders bounced back from a heart attack, remarkable victory for him, he got robbed
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of the media spot slight as well, by the next day everybody is doing the state of the union, news cycle marchs on, you can never get that back. >> ask president rick santorum and it was only weeks later that he was declared the winner in iowa and he could have used the early boost heading into new hampshire. it's a rough thing and i think pete must have had some sort of incline that he was doing well because it would have been unsurvivable, i think. howie: they get reports reportsm different precincts, even if it works well, complicated, too many conflicting con complications. i don't think first in the nation for the democrats given how badly this embarrassed the party.
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mollie. >> it's going to be rough particularly for democrats, they didn't like to be first in iowa in any case, they didn't think it was representative and this adds fuel to the fire. >> i absolutely agree, sensitive issue for democrats, if anything they'll be a calendar change, multiple state that is go first and not just iowa. howie: ray, when things work well, and the people of iowa i love and they take this very serious law but still predominantly white, largely rural unrepresentative state. >> more people in brooklyn and queens than in iowa, i'm not sure what the argument for iowa going first is any longer especially not with the process like this. howie: are you saying brooklyn and queens should go first? >> i'm down with that, you and i can go and put campaign headquarters there. howie: all right, there's a revolutionary suggestion, ray suárez, melanie zanona, thank you for joining us, mollie hemingway, thanks to all of you, ahead frank luntz, up next
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howie: one to have biggest loser of the iowa debacle are the media only to be gap welling the complete absence of news. >> no results at all from the iowa caucuses, huge embarrassment for the iowa democratic party. >> a lot of ramifications if this group out here doesn't get -- >> i also feel like i created false expectations. [laughter] >> the way these things go every 4 years, you do usually get results right away. it is a little bit weird. howie: no numbers and plenty of hours to fill and that continues for much of the next day it also led to the spreading of rumors
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as is in this report from cnn's john king. >> two other campaigns who said they are hearing that the biden campaign will file injunction and so we don't know that that's true. howie: well, biden campaign made clear it wasn't true and king tweeted my discussing even skeptically from rival campaigns was in a word stupid. when iowa democrats release partial results late tuesday it was hard to instantly process flurry of numbers even for such savvy analysts like steve. >> what's that? okay. they're telling me it says 100%, do we know how much it is? okay. 100% is not in. let me go back to this right here. yeah, okay. i'm going to ask if you can give me 3 minutes. [laughter] howie: you have to feel for him. we all tried to get a handle of
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♪ everything your trip needs for everyone you love. expedia. >> it's been a week for the media. 10 points higher than when impeachment started after endless hours of the coverage of the testimony and the focus on ukraine and endless newspaper stories and segments and web pieces, how is that possible? >> well, it's possible because the american people are fed up with this and this lesson here for all those watching in washington, d.c., this -- the
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trial was a circus. there was no sense of planning, there was no sense of accountability, no sense of what the american people deserve which is a straight-forward, not a partisan approach and howie, i look at this and it may have been a tough week for the media but i think it's the worst week for the american people and that's what i care about as a pollster, all they are seeing now is a horribly broken washington, politicians that treat each other with disrespect and it's out of control and at some point you reach a breaking point and i think if we have more events like what happened this week, you may have a fundamental slide, a destruction of faith in democracy, everybody is doing it and it has to stop. howie: but, you know, there was
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a lot of evidence, the bolton manuscript, careered diplomats who testified, nonetheless i'm wondering whether or not people got sick of endless coverage but simply don't trust the press on the whole subject or anything really having to do with the coverage of this president? >> they don't and they have every right not to because everyone has a horse that they're backing, i don't find the reporting, i listen to the language, i read the headlines, i read everything below that appears on television, it's clear, you can turn it on and you can tell where the person who wrote it stood, that's not the way it's supposed to be. our press has become like the united kingdom, there's a right wing, center and a left and that has never been part of what america was supposed to be and you lose the faith and trust in the media to hold people accountable because they keep picking sides, one more thing, i actually think this makes donald trump reelection more likely not
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less because if the public feels that there's a deliberate bias against the president, they will rally around him. just watch. howie: okay, one quick last question on this subject and that is does it hurt the president rather than just sort of taking the win that he goes on and attacking pelosi, schiff, democrats, vicious horrible people, you know, without sort of gesture of trying to bring the country together? >> every time he's done it he has gone up or pleased the base, as a pollster i'm not sure it hurts him politically but privately all of us on all sides wish that we could end this, wish that there can be some sense of civility and decency, i understand his wanting to do this but i don't think it's good for the country honestly, i don't think it is. >> nancy pelosi is attacking him too but both sides are not
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deescalating at all. the media chronicled what a complete debacle this has been. do you think it hurt in particular pete buttigieg or bernie sanders who might have been declared the winners, also the democratic party as a whole? >> how can you run a country if you can't run a caucus, you criticized the republicans repeatedly for voter suppression and yet you've got hundreds of counties that are not reported correctly according to new york times, i think that once again we are shredding the confidence in democracy. there's no reason for nancy pelosi to tear up donald trump's speech that was petulant and same type of action that the trump people were furious with hillary clinton back in 2016 when she called them deplorables. if the republicans show that effort, i actually believe that that could have a significant impact on the election, as
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americans look at this and say that's awful, now, donald trump should have shook her hand and, in fact, the strategy that he could have use today -- used to express, i'm still here, nancy. [laughter] howie: all right, you predicted on the program 9 months ago that bernie sanders was the likely nominee and backed off a little bit when he slid in the polls, you want to revive the prediction and many in the democratic party are worried that he would be a nominee who he would lose to the president? >> i don't think that he would easily lose, i spent a week in iowa, i spent a week in new hampshire which i did the reporting community would do, all the pundits who are on the cable channels are purporting to know what's happening and yet they are not talking to the voters themselves and they are going toned up like 2016 where they get it wrong, the sanders' rally are bigger than anyone else's, more passionate than
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anyone else, he's drawing people that don't look like they came out of berkeley in the 60's, has similar to donald trump in that they want a wholesale change, they want to drain their swamp actually, if you want to look at the red analogy, they want to fill the trump that donald trump is trying to drain. howie: frank 30 seconds, joe biden disappointing, fourth place, he predicted that he will lose new hampshire, are the media prematurely saying he's in trouble and he's toast. >> i never heard a candidate called toast when they are a front runner, when they are still leading in the polls nationwide, that said, i don't think he does well in new hampshire, i don't think he does well in nevada, and i think he narrowly wins in south carolina, every vote that mike bloomberg, and that's the person we should be talking about, every vote that mike bloomberg gets it's a vote that joe biden once had and doesn't have anymore. howie: we will talk about bloomberg in the weeks to come,
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in less than 24 hours, nypd commissioner saying that moments ago the man suspected in both shootings is now in custody, suspect not being named as of this moment and has previous criminal record including shootout with police back in 2002, both officers expect today fully recovered from injuries and the officer from saturday's shooting expected to be released from the hospital this afternoon. >> 3 years ago we launched the great american comeback. howie: president trump drawing mix media review for state of the union but nancy pelosi stole many of the headlines as you know by rather tearing up the speech. >> why did you rip the speech up, madame speaker? >> that was the thing to do considering -- howie: joining us now here in washington gayle trotter, the gayle trotter show
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and mora liasson. gayle many saying it was a low blow to tear up speech at the end to have address which she did deliberately and the pundits are split but not entirely? >> that's right, some people gave her flak for hit and "the new york times" had two articles making false equivalency between trump not shaking her hand and nancy ripping the speech which had names of all american heros and the great stories and so you see some oh the media giving fault for doing that, the big ones are actually trying to say that it's equivalent action between president trump and nancy pelosi. howie: mara, the journalist who is were supporting pelosi on this, the president refuse today shake her hand justified this along with the speech was full of lies which obviously we can go through and fact-check it but often disputed details in any state of the union speech, but the bottom line was, we all saw
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the image next day she stole a lot of the next-day headlines. >> yeah, i think that the ferris reporting has pointed out that what she did got round of criticism from people who support the president and a lot of democrats in congress loved it because she was expressing what a lot of them felt about the speech. the state of the union was an incredible by partisan event from the president's remarks to nancy pelosi's actions at the end and i think that's the fairest way that the media can report it. if commentators want to say she was right to do it or wrong to do it, that's another thing. >> but you're taking about violating norms all of the time and how is there not significant blowback to nancy pelosi for violating -- >> there was significant blowback, she did violate a norm and too many norms are being violated, i don't know how many norms we have left. i mean, we can go all the way back to -- to congressman yelling you lied to barack obama during speech. no doubt that both sides are
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breaking norms. howie: let me get in quick notes, the president did not invite anyone from cnn this time for the traditional off the record anchor lunch before the speech and white house press secretary stephanie grisham leaked in memo that high hypocrisy to leak tidbits from the conversation to some of their colleagues including somet the president specifically asked not to share. late friday the president in rapid succession firing ambassador to european union gordon sondland and alexander vindman, both testified in house impeachment hearings and let's listen to what some people had to say about that. >> anybody who does not side with this president is seen as an enemy. >> this is just the beginning, vindman, sondland.
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it's not the end. >> mr. vindman you want to be in charge of foreign policy, why don't you try to be president, this is what it looks like. howie: campaign of retribution, obviously the president has the right to do this, but why shouldn't it be portrayed by the press as striking back at perceived enemies? >> it should not portrayed that way and i think the problem is the media mobs want someone who stays in his lane and that they're able to manipulate through their coverage of these events but i will tell you that many americans across the country were so happy this to the see that people had done the public portrayals are no longer in charge of our foreign policy and are no longer able to undermine this president, so that's where the media coverage was wrong because it didn't give enough lift to that feeling of relief by the american people that these people are no longer in position to harm this administration. howie: but, mara, when gayle says public portrayals, the view of witnesses that they were summoned to testify, they told
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the truth, vindman won a purple heart in iraq and his lawyer says this is about revenge and being booted for telling the truth and he was escorted out of the white house, reassigned to the pentagon which is fine but the president obviously was trying to sent a message. >> right, the president certainly was within bounds to do what he did, vindman he's not unemployed, he's back in the pentagon from which he was detailed. on the other hand, to say that the president wants to take revenge or get some payback for the people he felt did him wrong is fair, stephanie grisham even said when are these people going to pay for this, i think it's fair reporting to say that both things are true, he was within his rights and perfectly legal for him to remove the people from the white house but also, of course, he's trying to get back at home that he thinks did him wrong. howie: cnn calling it saturday
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night massacre, all right, after the break on the eve of the new hampshire primary, two days away, the pundits say mayor pete is hot, joe biden is not and can bernie sanders really win the nomination? that's next. if you have sympts of this bacterial infection, ...ketoacidosis, or an allergic reaction and don't take it if you're on dialysis or have...
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howie: 2 days ago -- to go till new hampshire primary, joe biden eventually admitted defeat. >> iowa, you have shocked the nation, by all indications we are going onto new hampshire victorious. >> it is really sad that the democratic party of iowa if i may say so screwed up counting process quite so badly, we ended
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up winning the popular vote by 6,000. >> we took a gut punch in iowa, the whole process took a gut punch, but, look this isn't the first time in my life that i've been knocked down. howie: mara liasson, he has shot up in the new hampshire polls, in one poll he's 2 behind bernie sanders and elizabeth warren and others, are journalists taken with pete buttigieg as they were with beto? >> no, actually, i think whoever puts in a surprise finish in iowa gets a certain round of media coverage, pete buttigieg was not polling at the top of the polls in iowa, he was a surprised an he gets the round, there's been skeptical coverage of buttigieg too, he's the old person's idea of what a young person should be, et cetera, but he did better than people
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thought he would so he got a bounce which includes media coverage out of iowa. howie: nothing better in politics than better than expected. >> yes, better than expected. howie: buttigieg decided to do media interviews, just this past week, gayle, he was on 18 different shows fox news sunday among them. i think that helps him and i think it contrasts with joe biden doing very few television interviews, first sunday news on abc. >> and he did interview on tmz live, expansive view of what media coverage he's willing to go for and you see that in contrast in the coverage in biden, biden blew it, headlines about biden and i think that's why you're seeing mayor pete even though he's against the electoral college, he's happy that he was able to succeed in iowa due to the delegate count versus the popular vote and we will see more coverage of him
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because he's willing to do do interview because he has less to lose. howie: he's the least well known in america and decided that he will do media interviews and you know who also did media interviews, donald trump in 2016. mara, plenty of media reports, kind of delayed because of iowa caucus results being delayed, joe biden blew it, he couldn't excite anybody, he struggled to raise money, his team knew for months that he was in trouble according to a couple of accounts all that iowa small represented state and you have biden himself he will take a hit in new hampshire as well and debate friday night. >> yeah that was kind of shock to go down play expectations, you know, by yourself. howie: to that extent. >> yeah, historical rules only work till they stop working and what we know from the past is that someone who comes in fourth in iowa and expects to also do poorly in new hampshire generally doesn't find their footing and become the nominee, but you know what, all the rules have been thrown out the window,
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maybe joe biden can blow everybody out of the water in south carolina and regroup on super tuesday, i mean, we just don't know but there's no doubt that by everything we've known from the past coming in fourth in iowa, when you were making electability you were first, second and third calling card about the viability of your candidacy is just bad. >> that's a fair point and also many biden allies, some of them on the record were contribute to go newspaper stories about how they all knew for months that he will have a hard time in iowa and, gayle, bernie sanders bounced back from a heart attack, he was always going to do well in neighboring state because he's from vermont but even left-leaning pundits are worried about him winning the nomination, michelle goldberg calling him a wild gamble. are many journalists, gayl, e in your view oppose today sanders because they don't think he can beat trump? >> clearly that's the case, they are trying to influence voters view, we saw that happened in
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2016 when everything was against him but people in the media understand that there needs to be a broader appeal and so they are trying to paint him in a certain way that will affect his chances rather than just reporting it straight. howie: briefly, do you think they are painting him unfairly, he's a self-described democratic socialist? >> it's not about his policy preferences but electability. howie: ultimately the voters do get to decide this and find out how wrong we were as you both have pointed out, gayle, mara, thank you very much. t symptoms, including itchy throat plus an immediate blast of cooling sensation. feel the clarity and live claritin clear.
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been diagnosed with advanced lung cancer and i wish i didn't have to tell you this and thought about not telling anybody. howie: rush limbaugh put conservative talk radio on the map filling void on era before the internet, fox news whether you love or loathe his ideology, huge audience and became force of the republican party, president trump praised him at the state of the union. >> he's the greatest fighter and winner that you will ever meet, rush limbaugh, thank you for your decades of tireless devotions to our country. [cheers and applause] >> howie: emotional as the first lady presented him with the presidential medal of freedom right there during the speech. some of the media point out that he
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that used language, i get the debate over whether he should have gotten the medal, inspired millions while fighting for his beliefs, the drive-by media, i've interviewed rush a few times, we should all wish him the best, even critics, even those who oppose him ideologically, we wish him the best as he battles the disease either on the left or the right, we are all human beings. that's this edition for media buzz, i'm howard kurtz, check out my media buzz meter podcast, you can subscribe at apple itunes, google play or foxnews.com, we kind of bounced around from the iowa caucuses to the state of the union, to the president being acquitted and impeachment charges to the war of words with the democrats and to the firings and all of that,
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we tried to cover it all for you, continue the conversation on twitter at howard kurtz, back here next sunday 11:00 eastern with the latest buzz. ♪ ♪ arthel: suspect in custody in new york city after second nypd officer was shot and wounded in the bronx this morning, this targeted attack comes just hours after another officer was ambushed in the same precincts. >> for the second time in less than 12 hours member it was new york city police department have been targeted specifically and shot, in attempts to murder the people who work so hard day and night to keep the people of the city safe. arthel: hello, everyone, welcome to america's news headquarters, i'm arthel neville. eric: i'm eric sean, the officer shot this monk thankfully he's in stable condition at local hospital, nypd saying they are co
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