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too? >> sean: laura ingraham, how are you? >> laura: i have a question, how did that coverage of the new hampshire primary for the democrats turn into how do i look? how did that happen? only you would do that, do i look younger? >> sean: i don't know, i never watch. i was like, how would you know that? >> laura: i am going to relentlessly tease you, everyone is like buttigieg or sanders, hannity is like this is my best profile shot? i have never seen anything like that, that is classic. they looked like they had affection for you, if not respect. >> sean: some of them wanted to hate me, then they met me and said i don't even want to like you this much. >> laura: well stay warm out there, get back soon. >> sean: have a great show.
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>> laura: i am laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle." from new york tonight on the eve of the new hampshire primary. we take a closer look at pete buttigieg, i have a question. we have been itching to get at the subject for a while now, is the media lying to you when they say the former south bend mayor as a moderator? also, we have been on the front lines of calling for a house look into the national security council, we will tell you why the dismissal of the vindman brothers was just the beginning and long overdue. unhinged celebrities, their latest political ramblings are to be most hilarious things you will see in any comedic interlude that hollywood can offer. it was at the oscars last night, raymond arroyo and tom shillue break all the theatrics down later in the show. but first, the rage and chaos campaign. that is the focus of tonight's angle.
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now imagine if the democratic party of let's say georgia had sponsored a voter registration drive, with balloons, posters, sign-up stations, it would be manned by either party volunteers on the sidewalk let's say outside a shopping mall. then a van pulls up, and a driver rolls down the window, but then he hits the gas. and he plows through the tent, luckily, luckily no injuries. this story, of course, would lead every major newscast, regardless of the fact that truncating reporters would jump to the conclusion that he was partly the impetus for such a heinous act. well, on saturday, 27-year-old gregory kim was arrested in jacksonville, florida, for plowing into a republican get out the vote tent outside a walmart. the g.o.p. at duvall county said
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the six volunteers were target targeted. this assailant wasn't registered to vote he did not have much of a social media presence. if the duvall county democrats leased the statement saying they are thankful that the perpetrator of the cowardly act has been apprehended by the police and continued to call for civility during the cycle selection. if good for them for condemning creative but the set up and would not have been enough at the shubin on the other foot. it is important to note that there has potentially been no response from the democratic 2020 candidates about this, who claim to care so deeply about such issues. >> in the 21st century, voting rights on the kind of voter suppression we have seen cannot stand. >> we need to repeal every one of the voter suppression laws that is out there right now. >> covered the republican governors are trying to suppress the vote. that is incredibly undemocratic, un-american. >> laura: voter suppression, voter intimidation matters to the democrats. don't you think that is pretty intimidating when a van drive
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through a registration tent? now i guess it is possible, but my opinion is highly unlikely, that anti-trump rage wasn't part of the motivation here, we will find out more as the days go on. but predictably, the media has barely covered the story at all. think about this, the attack happened on saturday. and as of sunday morning, only nbc sunday today covered it. and only for 25 seconds. now, remember what preceded this florida attack. think about the dark and sinister way prominent people are talking about the president, the outcome of his impeachment trial, and america in general. >> once fascists get power, they don't give it up. you have president trump for life. >> i don't see the president-elect as a legitimate president. >> there is no exoneration, no
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vindication, no real acquittal from a fake trial. >> we have a racist society from top to bottom. >> this may have started as an anti-trump movement, but in some you just saw, it has become an anti-america movement. face it, trump's policies, they are largely working. and at least half of america supports them. so i would question, are they all illegitimate? 62 million people voted for him last time around, or are they just deplorable, or are they just racist or stupid? this whole thing is getting out of hand, it smacks of total desperation on the democrats part. now we still don't know which folks are responsible for citizen journalists brain bleed last year, only andrew yang and joe biden even condemned that attack. political leadership in cities
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such as portland, oregon, berkeley, you have seen this craziness, a lot on the left coast where the rampage took place. they largely turned a blind eye to leftist violence. police are given stand-down orders, and mass antifa radicals have been allowed to wail on anyone who gets in their way with impunity. especially from supporters, no consequent. few, if any arrests. and these people claim trump is the one stoking hatred, are you kidding me? the nonstop, most cruel demonization of the president and anyone who works for him or supports him occurs 24/7. and it is not just by knit cap- wearing basement dwellers on social media, this is happening at the hands of supposedly respected members of the media and the establishment.
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>> let me be very clear, you are stupid. you are one of those people i say should not be allowed around household appliances, you will take off some fingers if not your entire hand. the entire stupidity, he is not mentally okay. >> he is the most racist, sexist, homophobic, president in history. >> laura: these are the same people who claim to be so woke, so compassionate, so tolerant. but for them at the end, ridding us of trump of course, always justifies the means. now remember the mock assassination of trump during that shakespeare in the park? >> an actor dressed to look just like president trump as he is assassinated on stage. look at his character is stabbed to death. and there is no mistaking the trump connection.
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>> laura: trump had only been in office for a couple months, remember kathy griffin holding up his severed head? or nba stars and coaches who have been bought off by china but feel morally superior when trashing trump? >> i have never been more angry and disgusted at the situation than i am now our country is an embarrassment in the world did you number one job in america, someone who doesn't understand the people. he really doesn't give a -- about the people. >> laura: or the vicious anti-cavanaugh protests. >> they are still trying to get any supreme court, by the way. they kept banging and no one answered. of course there is our favorite robert "forever young" de niro. >> this idiot is a president, he is a fool.
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come on. he is like a gangster, he is talking about how you want to punch people in the face. >> laura: the man just needs better lines, come on bobby. now while democrats blame trump himself for creating an atmosphere of fury and racism, the president with smart policies has done more to help the black community than any president in the modern era. it is the democrats and their most radical elements who are fostering a toxic and dangerous atmosphere. now it is not enough to just disagree with president trump's policies, they try to stay in and day out to destroy him. and his family. but they failed. their viciousness isn't just directed at president trump, left-wing activists are turning to attacking police now too. during impeachment, the chaos at new york's grand central station carried out by antifa and occupy wall street, it didn't get the
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coverage it deserved. >> no cops, no racist usa. >> laura: what a disgrace, the protesters are so courageous in their masks, cowards every last one of them. they would be the first one to wet their pants if they really needed a police officer and an emergency. they disrupted transit, one of the busiest train stations in the united states. this wasn't even about wanting free stuff, they were testing bill de blasio and chris cuomo. will there be repercussions for this? no there never is, bill de blasio is hated by the police for good reason. he doesn't have their backs, and they know it. this has created a poisonous, and frankly it's created a dangerous dynamic for the people of the city. and it is not going to end until once again they elect someone like rudy giuliani who was tough, but fair.
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and things are now even worse, nypd officers were targeted in two separate assassination attempt thisast weekend. the police unit say bill de blasio's rhetoric is to blame. >> they are listening and coming after us on the streets, the first thing i thought when i got this call, someone was shot and 12 hours later, i said they are hunting us. they are hunting us. >> laura: this is an untolerable disgrace, they are so violent and did they demonize police. the only thing standing between us and them is the police. and in an economy so benefiting, the democrats should see that all of this rage is not getting much traction with regular america. after a while, if you keep raging, and you just look impotent. and that is the angle.
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joining me now is the chairman of the duval county g.o.p., dean. first off, i want to show you the headline from politico, the lead on the story about a guy who tried to run over g.o.p. volunteers. it says "republicans vow revenge." are you kidding me dean? is how they are covering what happened to your people in jacksonville? >> good evening laura, when i first saw that i was furious. anyone who listened to our statement would have heard me clearly. the republican party is apparently the only party that is the party of law and in this country. we support peaceful political process, and the only revenge we talked about is the type that you get at the ballot box. the best revenge is victory, we
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said. but we emphasize that this needs to be peaceful. you summed it up so well, what is happening on this country in the left is nothing less than a political obscenity. it is horrifying, and if this is where we are starting right now, ten months out from election day, where is this going to end up? >> laura: i was talking to a friend of mine this afternoon on my way to new york, he said you know, laura, the last time this type of rhetoric but out of control was in certain times in the 1960's. we ended up having a disastrous democratic national convention in chicago, we had riots in different cities, a lot of social justice angst and outrage, obviously the killing of martin luther king which was horrific. the country was going through a lot. but we need things to calm down, not ramp up. especially at a time when the economy is doing so well for so many people, you can debate the
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policies, have a vigorous debate, be angry at trump for anything you want, that is the process. but what is happening here with the van going for a tent, i am not buying it that this is just, we don't know what motivated this guy but with all the hate and rage, all over social media 24/7. it's a miracle if it wasn't someone part of thinking. >> it was clearly a partisan motivated attack, the guy pulled up, i mean it was a plainly marked event. you could not mistake what was happening, there were trump signs everywhere, there were obviously republicans, there was a big bright red tent. the guy pulls up, he gets out cell phone, he gives them an obscene gesture, then he accelerates towards them as he is videotaping it. our elderly volunteers barely get out of the way, he plows
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through the location, and then he backs up and he videotaped it again. he was proud of his work. now, that is a partisan attack. what else can you call it? you would have to believe that he had some blinding hatred of chairs, tents to believe anything otherwise. >> laura: we wanted to get some of the volunteers on, we talked and reached out to a couple of them. they are traumatized. people are traumatized by what happened, and again, if the shoe were on the other foot if this had happened to a democrat registration table, this would have led every broadcast. i am not saying anyone to jump to conclusions, it seems very odd when someone is videotaping. but if the shoe were on the other foot, they certainly would have at the minimum, given it real coverage in the evening
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newscasts. we got nothing. >> laura, republicans in duval county and the republican executive committee of duval county are-- you set it up very well, but people are scared because of what hat they are going to wear. they are concerned they will get accosted because of the shirt they chose to put on, they are out exercising their first amendment rights and engaging in political speech. >> laura: they can't be trump on the economy, so they want to terrify trump volunteers or trump supporter's from showing up in public with a hat or a t-shirt. no one should be afraid to wear a t-shirt or hat supporting someone. >> laura: god bless you. in the wake of back-to-back assassination attempts, that left two nypd officers injured
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over the weekend my next guest is going to war against new york city mayor and filled presidential candidate bill de blasio. ed mullins, president of the sba nypd association, you said new york city cops are declaring war on the mayor, what does that mean? >> new york city cops are broken from this mayor, we have been dealing with him for nearly six years. this past weekend we had to attempted assassinations on new york city cops. they are the fourth and fifth assassination events since this mayor has been in office. we have lost three police officers to assassinations, previously we had multiple cops injured, basically what it comes down to is that the rules are being ignored under this mayor's leadership. >> laura: there were some amazing things you said in the last couple days, i want to share. >> we have to understand this,
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as a city, as a nation our entire society has to understand an attack on a police officer is an attack on all of us. it is an attack on a democratic society, a decent society. and is intolerable, we will fight back with everything we have. >> laura: he sounded very heartfelt there. >> last week we had antifa protesters in grand central station vandalize property, resist arrest, the mayor came out and made statements. he has to get in front of this, he has to lead by example, he has to get in front and establish that the nypd is there to make arrests. we are putting cops in the field with no helmets, doing hand-to-hand with individuals who are resisting arrest. >> laura: this can't continue, this cannot continue to be. the people of new york city cannot want to live like this, is this the way they want to live? >> we have done some pulling,
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the politicians who support these people would be shocked to learn that 84% of the people in this nation support the police, and yet, these elected officials are placating the individuals who are criminals. they are appealing to the radicals. >> this is happening as they are pushing bail reform, decriminalizing massive drug to criminalization, my friends on chicago pd down south, they said it is a disaster. drug legalization is a disaster for their city, they can't arrest for various crimes. the push for decriminalization, what will that do to cities like new york? >> it is destroying it, we are seeing people for bank robberies being released. we are seeing people commit murder walk out the door. this is an easy fix, but nobody is fixing it.
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>> laura: can it be fixed under this mayor? >> that the legislative problem, it has to be done through the governor. >> laura: can it be fixed under this governor? >> i don't think it will happen anytime soon, what it comes down to, laura, is the people in the city and state need to not sit silent. this is their city, this is their state, and the longer they stay silent the worst this is going to get. >> laura: we are rewarding criminality, illegal immigrants get i.d. cards, they can get city benefits, there is a push to reward lawlessness at every level. meanwhile, the men and women in blue in this city have a target on their back. i have heard it from officer after officer from the train station when i run into them, to downtown, to uptown, people are sick of this. >> i hear it every day. >> laura: i don't know how your guys do what they do, and gals do what they do every day. >> they believe in their job, the recruitment, cops are not wanting jobs across the country.
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>> laura: people at the lower end of the economics spectrum will suffer the most? >> they will, even rich people want the police there, and elected officials are not answering to the people. >> laura: with you all the way, you tell the members of your association we are with you all the way. god bless you. the vindman brothers were just a start, we are receiving reports that trump finally, finally purging the nfc of dozens. why did the housecleaning take so long? >> laura: the president mandate, his views, his policies are being thwarted by obama >> man: what's my safelite story?
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♪ >> laura: the president mandate, his views, his policies are being thwarted by obama holdovers. heaven forbid you can remove
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someone in the executive department who is not supporting the president. globalists in the obama holdovers, and the trump administration that would burrowed deep inside, were infuriated by him from day one. i have been something of a broken record on this subject, i plead guilty. and i have been sounding an alarm about these disloyal holdovers from the very first week that we were on the air. after the vindman brothers were sent packing on friday, reassigned, it looks like the trump administration under their leadership of national security advisor robert o'brien is finally cleaning house. we are learning from the "washington examiner" that the white house is in the process of cutting 70, 70 obama era holdovers from the national security council. boy, is it about time. joining me now, lee feldman and -- while this is a welcome development, i almost choked in
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saying 70. why did it take so long, and how many others are burrowed into other agencies? also the cia, also the fbi, working against trump in various different ways? >> this is a big deal, this is the president's staff. every president from one after another, they have had the prerogative to make changes as to what they want the nsc to look like. for president trump, you can argue that this should have happened a long time ago, maybe he has soon as he came into office. if he wants to have an nsc that has 80 staffers, a hundred and 50, 200, that is his prerogative. specifically as we are talking about here, lieutenant colonel vindman, jim morrison testified he had a problem with lieutenant colonel vindman judgment. she had concerns about his judgment, others in the nsc, then you have lieutenant colonel vindman after his july 25th call contacting a whistle-blower
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before sharing any concerns with jim morrison, then lied about it when asked during the impeachment inquiry. adam schiff said they had no idea who the whistle-blower was however if lieutenant colonel vindman says the name of one person other than george kennedy spoke to us on nsc, you are saying the whistle-blower. if you are honest and have integrity, how is it that you don't know the whistle-blower? >> laura: he never should have been at the national security staff, he never should have been in there, and yet he was in there. chuck schumer is not taking vindman's removal very well, it is going to do something. >> the president has begun dismissing members of the of administration who testified in congress, so today i sent a letter to all 74 inspectors general in the executive branch requesting that they immediately investigate any and all
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instances of retaliation against anyone who has made or in the future makes protected disclosures of presidential misconduct to congress or to inspector general's. >> there is no conceivable way that colonel vindman's removal or any attempt to retaliate, what is the point of this and why are there so many inspector general? >> senator schumer it should be careful for what he wishes for, these holdovers have been a problem. two of them, went right over to work for schiff. they are on his staff right now. the whistle-blower was in the nsc, the vindman twins were on the nsc, fiona hild who was at odds with a trump supporters. another thing that is very strange. ben rhodes was a deputy national security advisor under obama, jake sullivan was the national security advisor for joe biden. and in early 2018, they had a big press conference where they
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were going to make an anti-trump foreign policy conglomerate national security agency, before they left that national security counsel bloomed to 230 people, they were in contact with a lot of these people that were holdovers that were feeding them information all about what was going on. we had leak after leak after leak coming out of the nsc, another conspiracy, we have had before national security advisors. there was a reason why michael flynn must be taken out very early, because of all the national security advisors he was going to make it a point to clean house. >> laura: i completely agree with you. >> they pulled in, they said you know what michael flynn is controversial and we are going to get people who are not controversial, those obama people had been deliberately planted there by ben rose, that is the way it is. >> laura: think about it, it was actually smart for them to do this.
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they were plotting into the age of trump, obama leaves but they have their people in there. whatever reason, our white house personnel director or combination of factors didn't recognize it, didn't think it was a concern. but now, o'brien who is also by the way, he gets. >> yet, so you have when h.r. mcmaster was there who replaced michael flynn, you had people who were brought into h.r. mcmaster's closest circle. the people running the nsc were people who ben rhodes had hired during president obama's administration who are h.r. mcmaster decided to elevate to these levels, they do not congratulate leeks that came out right before h.r. mcmaster was fired, those leaks, those came right from the top. these are people who ben rhodes had brought in and they get elevated. fast forward to robert wilson, he is doing a fantastic job. sorry, robert o'brien.
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it's a great time to do it, the impeachment is over and it is time to move forward. there has been great national foreign policy wins, have a staff you trust. >> laura: coming up, how do american dairy farmers feel about getting trashed by joaquin phoenix at the oscars? we will ask one, plus richard arroyo and tom shillue will share oscars wackiest moments, you don't want to miss it. ♪ prepared for the future. surprise! we renovated the guest room, so you can live with us. i'm good at my condo well planned, well invested, well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement.
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>> we go into the natural world, ♪ >> we go into the natural world, and we plunder it for its resources. we feel entitled to artificially inseminate a cow, and when she gives birth we steal her baby. even though her cries of anguish are unmistakable. and then we take her milk that is intended for her calf, and we put it in our coffee and our cereal. >> laura: i am known to like my half-and-half, that was interesting. after joaquin phoenix trashing cow's milk may impress hollywood elites, but what about all the hardworking american dairy farmers he insulted? i thought we could go to one tonight, this is a third-generation dairy farmer from upstate new york. he joined me now, nate, first of all i wanted you to appear with the cows in the background. but you have 800 dairy cows. what do you have to say to
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mr. phoenix? >> will, i actually watched it and i guess i have to thank him, laura, because if he hadn't said what he said i wouldn't be here tonight being able to share what we dairy farmers do every day on our farm which is taking care of our animals. i guess i am not surprised by what i heard from him, knowing his past and his beliefs, i think i have to respect the message that he was sending that people need to have a passion and stand up for things that are wrong in this world, i just wish he wasn't misguided. >> laura: it is misguided, plundering the environment, taking these cows away, ripping the calves from the mothers and insemination, sounded positively violent. the whole place up there in tears. >> like i said, it is misguided because north america, the
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united states agriculture we are the most efficient agricultural system in the world. we produce food more efficiently in regards to carbon footprint and the fossil fuel usage than anyone else in the world. >> laura: is it mean to the cows? let's stay on the cows. focus on the mother and the calf. are the cows in distress? >> no, everything that we do on our farm every day is to keep those animals as calm and as comfortable as possible. >> laura: easy for you to say. >> it is easy for me to say, i feed everything a newborn calf that is on my farm. literally an hour ago before i came in here to get ready for this interview, i was feeding a brand-new calf that was just born with his mother right there with me. we have been working with these animals for generations upon generations, they look at us as part of their herd. i am not a predator, i am not something they are fearful of. they trust me to take care of their cows. >> laura: can i come visit you? >> anytime, of course laura.
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i would welcome joaquin phoenix to visit our farm. farmers, we don't have anything to hide. we love to share what we do. we have 100 kids to come to our farm every month during the school season. >>nate, i am coming, i will make a trip up there and i love milk. sorry, i just love milk. i love milk and i'm sorry it joaquin phoenix doesn't that. thanks for sharing your story, we really appreciate it. joining me now, richard arroyo and tom shillue. also i fox news contributor, host of "fox nation." you heard it right from the horses, i mean the farmer's mouth. this is quite emotional from joaquin phoenix. joaquin phoenix has been milking this for every possible social cause, climate change and preserving the one tuxedo he was going to wear throughout the
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oscars season. here's what i felt, i felt sorry for him. joaquin phoenix is obviously going through something dramatic. he is emotionally very raw and charged here, the movie the joker is a dark, sick journey into the mind of a serial killer. and i worried for him watching him on that stage, and watching all of his awards receptions here. it was a little scary. >> laura: tom, "udderly" ridiculous? >> i am guilt free, i drink my coffee black, i don't want any of that cow's milk. and i have never inseminated a cow artificially or otherwise. >> laura: what about that, the emoting at the award shows have become, even brad pitt who never really got political, suddenly he had to get licks in, too. it's like a pavlovian response. >> what happened to the mystery? can you imagine cary grant giving a speech, guilty, guilty,
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guilty, he wouldn't do it. brad pitt. >> laura: let's play it, let's walk brad pitt. >> they told me i only have 45 seconds appear, which is 45 seconds more than the senate gave john bolton this week, i'm thinking maybe quentin tarantino does a movie about it and in the end the adults to the right thing. >> let's hope not, do brad pitt could play john bolton. >> laura: did you see that his hair with a lifetime achievement award? >> that's wonderful. deserving. but i don't know why he wants to do that, we all know people who are in this media business who would rather be out in hollywood. but they are in hollywood and they want to do our jobs. brad pitt wants to sit on an msnbc panel, it is ridiculous. >> it's not a good look. >> laura: the oscars audience is defining to an all-time low. the obama's production company managed to nab its first oscar ever last night. the film's co-director accepted
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the award. >> working people have it harder and harder these days, and we believe that things will get better when workers of the world unite. >> laura: was on one of my old soviet propaganda posters i got when i was a student over there in the 80s. we go for a moment i thought that was dan aykroyd and jane curtin, but i digress. the thing that is really distressing me is this american factory movie that the obama's produced, it is about a chinese billionaire who buys a shuttered factory and reopens it, that is something to be looked up to and excited about. so they gave an award to that at the same time you have an economy in a president that is focused on driving the chinese out of american industry, and letting america drive its own economy. it is an amazing moment. >> laura: josh gad took the stage with this done.
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>> animated movies are left everywhere, in fact, "frozen 2," or as climate change deniers call it, "not frozen 2," has been dubbed in 45 different leg which, which means there are so many great versions of elsa. for instance, canadian elsa is basically the same but with health care. >> laura: tom, i don't even know who that is. i have never seen that person. >> he is the voice of olaf the snowman in frozen. he's been funny, but he does need a new writer. >> laura: maybe some of obama's speech writers wrote some of the jokes of the authors? i believe they had a few joke writers there, i don't know if you wrote those ones. >> apparently josh gad needs a new writer and publicist, you don't even know who that is. what we have just seen, this is why they lost 10 million viewers. an all-time low.
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>> laura: no one is watching. raymond and tom, we love you. >> they are watching raymond and tom. >> laura: oh, yeah, the media has been selling pete buttigieg as a moderate but have they look at what he is actually advocating? in moments i will expose his actual record and go head-to-head with his former campaign advisor, don't miss it. s former campaign advisor, don't miss it.
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>> pete buttigieg centrist democrat taking on the bernie sanders and elizabeth warren in the party. >> pete buttigieg is a moderate running as a moderate. >> these are feelings buttigieg would occupy that moderately and if someone were to happen to biden. >> buttigieg seems to be occupying some of that center stage as well. >> buttigieg has emerged that centrist lane. >> centrist lane, moderate,
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while if that true or is it all lies? mayor pete is no centrist, but something the media are trying to sell you. he won in iowa, and is pulling second in new hampshire. as establishment democrats, the party, the press look for an alternative to joe biden's failing candidacy. but in reality, buttigieg's agenda is in a lot of ways just as extreme as that of bernie sanders or even alexandria ocasio-cortez. let's take a look at down the list, mayor pete wants to abolish the electoral college. he favors packing the supreme court. and last month, he declared his unwavering support for unrestricted abortions. to a 7-year-old girl. on immigration, buttigieg supports giving illegal aliens free health care plus college scholarships and easier access to welfare. oh, and he wants to give citizenship and reparations for illegal immigrant families separated at the border.
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does any of that sound middle-of-the-road to you? he has also positioned himself as a fellow of medicare for all, but in practice his own plan is no less extreme. according to "the washington post," the plan "hinges on a supercharged version of the unpopular obamacare mandate." and what is his plan for solving the opioid epidemic? well, more drugs flooding or streets. >> you would say that possession of heroin is not illegal? >> it is not going to be dealt with through incarceration. >> but your website says decriminalized, it would not be illegal? >> yes, or it would be a misdemeanor. >> laura: does that sound like the voice of moderation to you? joining me now is jennifer holdsworth, former campaign manager for pete buttigieg race. i what previous election when i just have laid out a considered middle-of-the-road position?
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>> you are right, i think this is a label that is being projected onto mayor pete, i don't necessarily think it is something that he has self identified. but what he has been saying in places like iowa, new hampshire, and across the country, are that there are some folks calling for complete revolution and other folks calling the status quo. that leaves a lot of people in america without a political demarcation who feel frustrated at not being part of the process. those are the folks that we are welcoming to support the buttigieg campaign because even if you don't agree with him 100%, he is looking for practical, pragmatic, progressive solutions to some of the problems facing the country right now. >> laura: how is it pragmatic to say that pretty much all drugs, including heroin, fentanyl, decriminalized? as for usage, that would be a crime i guess, but for usage it would all be legalized. how is that in any way pragmatic? >> federally, what the mayor
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said is that incarceration will not be used against these infractions. decriminalization or maybe a misdemeanor is something we absolutely have to look into, but i think we can all agree that the war on drugs has failed. >> laura: jennifer, but i think people are saying, what people are saying, i don't care what president trump is doing on this. i know what i see in los angeles, on the streets where people are splayed out, they are not being arrested in l.a. but they are shooting up in public, people are walking over people tripped out on the sidewalk or lying in cars, coupled together lying in cars with needles in arms. you're not being incarcerated there. >> a lot of them have been incarcerated and have gone back to the streets because we are not treating addiction the way that it needs to be treated as a disease. as a mental health issue. so yes, we should absolutely do
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away with incarceration as an answer to the drug crisis. >> laura: what message does that send to young people? what message does that send to young people? >> we will help you if you have a disease, that is a great message to young people. >> laura: it doesn't enable young people or even tell young people, yeah, this might not be good. but we will take care of you. >> no because we have seen so far incarceration has not served as a deterrent in any way, shape, or form, they need a different answer. >> laura: psychosis, bipolar disorder, horrific issues with increases in drug use, especially thc among young people. if you want to do stuff as an adult that's one thing, but for young people it is a disaster. it's an attitude of permissiveness, that doesn't help either. finally, would you say that pete buttigieg is a moderate or more closer to aoc or biden? biden or aoc? >> i don't think you can put a label on it. >> laura: we have to put a label it out, say aoc. thank you for joining us, when we come back i read your emails. >> announcer: the following is a presentation of fo sport >> laura: it doesn't enable young people or even tell young people, yeah, this might not be good. but we will take care of you. >> no because we have seen so far incarceration has not served as a deterrent in any way, shape, or form, they need a different answer. >> laura: psychosis, bipolar disorder, horrific issues with increases in drug use, especially thc among young people. if you want to do stuff as an adult that's one thing, but for young people it is a disaster. it's an attitude of permissiveness, that doesn't help either. finally, would you say that pete buttigieg is a moderate or more closer to aoc or biden? biden or aoc? >> i don't think you can put a label on it.
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