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elizabeth warren heartbreaking 10%. she is from a neighboring state. then on the sideline the home mayor bloomberg bloomberg issue. i will seek the truth, always will be fair and balanced and never be the rage trump media mob. let not your heart be troubled because laura ingraham will get the decision, >> laura: you had to go up to new hampshire where i spent four years in college. >> sean: and you got in a lot of trouble for being a conservative, i remember. >> laura: just a little. great coverage in new hampshire, great job up there. i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle" from new york city tonight. it is still too close to call in new hampshire but bernie sande bernie sanders, leading over amy klobuchar, a surprise third. two contenders, andrew yang and michael bennet dropped out of the race tonight and will they be the only ones to drop out? we are going to unpack everything that is going on in new hampshire throughout the
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hour live. we will have reports from the ground including from south carolina. since joe biden has already. we will also explain what these results tell us about 2020 and how team trump is feeling tonight. there's also some other big news that we hope to get to tonight, for a politically motivated federal prosecutors. an unbelievable story. they quit after bill barr's doj overruled their absurd sentencing recommendation come away outside the sentencing guidelines for former trump associate robert stone. robert ray and sara carter will be here later on, a story that everyone else in the media is getting wrong and i'm going to tell you why. but first, we are awaiting a call at any moment and joining us now with all the details from new hampshire is bret baier, fox news chief political anger and host of "special report," and martha maccallum, host of "the story." great to see you both. let's say bernie sneaks out this
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victory tonight, is he happy that the second and third place finishers, pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar, seem pretty ill-equipped to contend in nevada and south carolina right now? >> bret: i think that is right. the fact we can't make the call is pretty surprising because we thought we would be able to make this call early, considering bernie sanders' power here. this is 4,000 votes separating first and second, only 9,000 separating first and third, so we are not ready yet and the decision desk is looking at the numbers and what's left out there but you're right, as far as organization, the other two a little bit behind bernie's momentum. >> laura: you were there all weekend long and new hampshire. bernie was up by 7 plus points over the weekend? in new hampshire customer now it's less than three points. what the heck happened between saturday, friday and tonight? >> martha: good question. for one thing, pete buttigieg came out strong and of iowa.
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kind of surprising that he was as solid there as he was, so he came in here, as crazy and chaotic as that situation was, it definitely gave him a boost, everywhere we went that pete buttigieg was speaking he was speaking to decent sized crowd. not trump-sized grouts but decent sized crowds. he got a lot of attention and even klobuchar got the authenticity vote. she really connected with voters here. by the end of the evening, the former vice president and elizabeth warren, the senator from the neighboring state are likely to walk out of here with zero delegates. i mean, if you had told someone that months ago when joe biden was leading in every place across the country that he wouldn't get a single delegate in the state of new hampshire, i think that is pretty shocking. he also often wonder what the dnc is going to do now. if sanders continues to win, are they going to go back to having superdelegates in the first round? are they going to work hard to change the trajectory customer we will see.
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>> laura: people always make fun of iowa and new hampshire because they sell their small stakes, they're not very diverse so what are they really tell us? well, what happens is people get to know the candidates in iowa and new hampshire. especially new hampshire. they got to know joe biden and they might have some personal affection for him and appreciation for his time in the senate, and as vice president. but they got to know him and what they saw, they didn't like. were going to get to this later but this is a real come to jesus moment for the democratic establishment. go ahead. >> bret: i talked about hockey mom, who tested everybody, but she really wanted to get behind joe biden and she went to a rally and said he was just tired saying old things. this was her words. she eventually went on to pete buttigieg. that was happening late in the game, as far as biden. i went to a biden rally that had 150 people.
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it wasn't materializing for him and he's going to finish fifth tonight. >> laura: we are going to go right back to when you have the call so we will see in just a few moments. but we now go live to the sanders campaign headquarters where fox's peter doocy is life there with the latest. what are you hearing from the campaign? are they concerned in the final hours? >> it doesn't seem like there is a ton of concern from the campaign. have seen a lot of smiles from staffers tonight, some high fives among the sanders staffers with each other. as for the people here, they get excited every time the people here flashes that sanders is in the lead but they are trying to figure out stuff to do until he gets here, so a lot of it is just organizing chants. we just heard a chant before you came here of "green new deal" and before that they were chanting "health care is a right." the field house where we has really filled in with sanders
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supporters. we understand there were several hundred people waiting outside here on the campus of southern new hampshire university, trying to get in. and the fire marshal would not let them hear there are some lingering outside still in case something changes or some people leave but it doesn't seem like anybody here is going to leave until they hear from senator bernie sanders and we do expect him imminently, even though there is no official call yet. >> laura: they have to come up with a rhyme for green new deal because it doesn't go anywhere. they have to come up with the next, it will work better. we will be back to you in just a few moments. >> a lot of stuff rhymes with "deal." >> laura: i know, that is why they need the extra line fear that's what i'm saying. all right, i want to go down now to the buttigieg headquarters where fox's matt finn is standing by there. when can we expect to hear from mayor pete? >> so far, we don't have a clear indication from the campaign but it seems like based on the energy in this room, he might speak at any moment. there are hundreds of energized
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supporters here and nashville community college. they've been chanting some signature cheers, president pete and also boot edge edge, which is become the humorous slogan to help people properly pronounce mayor pete last name. mayor pete, he crisscrossed the state. fox news was there at the majority events in his final message was clear, that he is the perfect down the middle candidates for voters in new hampshire, saying bernie sanders is too extreme and calling for a revolution and all his other competitors like amy klobuchar are for status quo. status quo. mayor pete campaign was also trying to hammer home that mayor pete has the cool, calm temperament to be president. basically trying to paint him as the opposite of president trump and more like president obama. after michael j. fox avon campaign here and introduced pete buttigieg at one point and michael j. fox says mayor pete reminded him of obama. and kevin costner was here today
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with mayor pete. to be expect to see mayor pete in this room, bear energized crowd tonight. >> laura: thank you. some star power there. if sanders does hold onto his lead tonight and he probably does, as i said to bear and martha, this is a come to jesus moment for the democrats. he is staying in the past tonight is doing one thing, helping bernie sanders. the democrats created this monster of radicalism by tolerating for a long time this anti-free market, antibusiness, anti-law enforcement, anti-borders, and some people think anti-american strain in some quarters of their party. now the chickens are coming home to roost. chuck schumer, nancy pelosi and frankly, obama. should they call up joe biden at this point and say, joe, we love you but it's over? thanks for your service, but your time is done. and if you stay in and keep fighting through south carolina,
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you're just hurting the moderate vote. this reminds me a lot of a lot of 2016. how so? member, jeb bush got stomped in iowa and new hampshire. he was the classic establishment candidate. he had all the money, about $150 million. then he went down to south carolina. he even brought his brother george w, former two term president. and he still couldn't win. and just like biden is now, jeb was the establishment. he had tons of money but once he started getting into trouble, what happened? he began attacking not donald trump so much, but marco rubio, the only other threat among the then establishment candidates. so for you moderates, it will either be bloomberg, mayor pete, or amy klobuchar. you need to pick one at this point, it's not going to be biden. if you want to beat sanders, you sure don't want to get into super tuesday with, say come off the top of my head here, let's say bernie has 25. bloomberg has 20, klobuchar has some thing around 20, mayor pete
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has 15 to 17. you have to form a coalition now. not that you will take my advice but i think the moderates should coalesce behind one person. now, if i had to pick someone who would perhaps have appeal beyond just new england and a few college towns it would be amy klobuchar. at least she is a senator and she doesn't have the wall street baggage that is toxic to the aoc plus three crowd. of course that michael bloomberg does have. now for two years, rubio and jeb all stuck around way too long and ended up helping donald trump. a case against crews, they tried to form a temporary packed committee member? it to beat trump. i remember it really well. ted cruz even picked his running mate early. i couldn't even remember it was. none of this work, the trump juggernaut passed south carolina kept rolling along and then it was too late. the same will happen with bern
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bernie. he will become the juggernaut. the new antiestablishment juggernaut of the democrat party. but what if this is bloomberg and bernie after super tuesday? do you really think you're going to convince the base, energetic for real change, to choose bloomy over bernie at that point customer good luck, it's not going to happen. by mid-march it's going to be over. people think this will drag on, it's never going to happen. the experts who pick a broker convention, i laugh at them. it's never going to happen, no way. they are not going to go into milwaukee to try to deprive bernie of the nomination if he has more delegates. there will be a complete revolt in the party. if they are going to beat bernie sanders, who has been a phenomenal retail politician, they need to stand united tonight behind one moderate candidate before super tuesday. at the very latest. maybe they can wait until tomorrow morning. if they don't do that, the
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left-wing populist bernie will win the nomination. joe biden took another primary beating in new hampshire here tonight. of course, there tonight, but he wasn't there to see it. he cut a run for south carolina before the results came in. he saw the writing on the wall. fox news ari fleischer shamed biden with an example from 20 years ago. george w. bush learned in the early afternoon of new hampshire on primary day that he was getting his clock cleaned by john mccain. he stayed for election night so he could thank those who gave their all on his behalf. ouch. joining me now, chairman of the american conservative union, chris hahn from a host the aggressive progressive podcast, and steve cortez, spokesman for america first pact. your thoughts? >> i agree have much of what you said in "the angle." bernie owns the party. he owns the party. he's got the activists. mayor pete definitely has some
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momentum but the d.c. democrats are scared to death. >> laura: they are freaking out about this tonight. >> right, they will change any role. superdelegates, whatever they need to. they are pressing the panic button when you have all the hillary clinton advisors james carbo coming out insane saying, emergency, emergency. what happens next is every rule could be changed to stop bernie. i talked to a bernie sanders supporter in new hampshire, she didn't vote for donald trump last time, she said i will be damned if they do this to my party again and screw bernie sanders of his rightful delegate. >> laura: it's kind of interesting to me, if you add up the percentages of the moderates versus the progressives, the progressives have the momentum of the moderates have a larger percentage, a larger block of the electorate new hampshire. does that then play to this idea that if you want to nominate a moderate, if you really think that is the best chance to beat trump, you better get these people to act fast. >> normally when i hear your
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angle i am cursing at it, try to pick it apart. most of what you said i agree with, politically. a strategy, right? but here's the thing, the republicans picked a disrupter that nobody thought could win four years ago and then he won. maybe the democrats are looking to pick a disrupter this year. i don't think the party will line up to stop bernie. i do think you're right, they need to consolidate behind one person if they're going to do that may be that person's beat, amy klobuchar, maybe it's bloomberg. we don't know. but i think this is going to play out and i think it is going to play out very soon. if there is a poll out today or tomorrow or in two days that shows biden and third or fourth place in south carolina, it's over. he shouldn't embarrass himself or there. >> laura: if the party says, look, we need your guidance, we need you to come in and have conversation with biden, or may be biden, buttigieg, get behind klobuchar. would he do that? would he say, i give you guys eight years and you still haven't gotten your act together. i've given you eight years. >> i think it is very hard for president obama to call
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joe biden up. he's been a situation where he called them i told him to get out he eventually won teresa biden has biden has got to make the decision for biden. >> laura: but you will remember from history, you are either remembered as someone who saw the writing on the wall and help your party's cause and went out gracefully or you or someone who stayed in the sidelines or someone who stayed in the race too long and then he just faded away. no one is talking about carly fee arena today or any of these people. jeb bush mike bush, god bless him, he's a great person but is never going to be in politics a. >> george bush did the right thing by staying in new hampshire to thank his supporters but biden cut and run and showed he is too cowardly to be the commander-in-chief of this country. i used to coach high school football and if i were to leave in the fourth quarter, leave because we were losing in the fourth quarter and go and hide or not address the team, i would be fired for that and i would deserve to be fired.
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what he did, what biden did to his voters, his supporters today in new hampshire says that to him, it's all about his selfish quest, rather than the country or the party. >> laura: the party disrupter is usually lose. they usually go down in flames for the last time the democrats had a real disrupter who won was 1972. so think about it, it's been a long time. it doesn't happen often. >> to describe trump as anything other than a disrupter of the republican party four years ago would not be accurate. he was a disrupter and he disrupted the entire political system, he still is. america likes that, to some extent. >> laura: my whole point was there is no way you're going to stop trump after south carolina if you didn't form a coalition. i said this about newt gingrich in 2012, they didn't listen to me. romney ended up getting the nomination. they had more support, the two of them, then romney did beer people didn't listen. they were like him were going to fight it out. he drives me crazy when they think they can all win. they are not going to win and
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they're going to hurt their causes with their ideology, their philosophy's chance of winning. >> but it's about issues so why was mcgovern not successful in 1972? because his issues were way outside of the general election voter. trump was actually connecting to voters, unlike the republican party -- >> laura: the establishment had failed them. >> immigration and fighting china getting the government out of our lives and religious freedom, this was popular. >> laura: just in the past 24 hours, the media have started phoning over bernie sanders. >> bernie sanders is a phenomenon. >> he very well could be the democratic front runner for the nomination, so i think that is huge. >> i think bernie sanders is a phenomenal politician and he ought to get his dues. >> laura: the media is really interesting, given this from a new hampshire boater earlier today. >> the reason i went for bernie is because of msnbc.
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the stop bernie cynicism that i heard from a number of people. i watch msnbc constantly. so i heard that from a number of commentators, so that made me angry and so i said okay, bernie has got my vote. >> laura: the liberal media is now saying bernie is the whole reason this woman voted for him. >> i don't know if i believe that. i watch a lot of media, i consume a lot of media, i don't think people have been unfair for bernie. they have called out things about him like they have other candidates. i think bernie sanders supporters are more sensitive to those criticisms than others. i think elections are about the future. bernie is talking about the future. biden is talking about the past. he made that line which i thought was a horrible line that everything in the past wasn't always bad purity don't say that purity want to move forward and forget about the past. >> i don't think it's honest that the media has been fair to bernie. look at what cnn did to bernie during the debate. the completely discounted his denial, he is really very fervent denial that he ever told elizabeth warren that she couldn't be president because
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she is a woman. and pivoted right to warren and said, how did it make you feel when he told you that -- >> that was a new hampshire reporter whoever it was that was asking that question and i thought it was out of line. that moderator -- >> my point is the media has largely treated the bernie movement like they treated the trump movement and while we don't agree on anything ideologically, that debate moderator was a reporter from the iowa dispatch. >> laura: don't you guys want to see, i'm thinking of dream debates, before we get to trump versus whomever, i want to see bloomberg debate bernie sanders. now that would be a democrat debate. but they are both, i don't agree with them on pretty much any issue but they are both really smart people in their own right, in their own history. that is the real, like the ge g.o.p. establishment versus the conservatives.
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the progressive, socialist wing of the party versus the older, pro-business, pro-china wing of the party. that would be hot and if bernie wins that then he deserves it. >> that is why we have primaries, red? that is why we have races. i always get excited on election night because i fake it's important. people are out there trying to take over their government the way we do in america. we walk into a polling place, you vote for somebody and take over your government pair that is what it is all about. power to the people. >> laura: okay, 32%, trump won south carolina. remember the time people kept saying, trump can't get above 30%. remember people kept saying that? i kept saying, he doesn't have to get above 30% because these other fools are going to split the vote among the other establishment candidates. rubio, and jeb, jeff got out of south carolina, but they kept splitting the vote.
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trump, 32% and he rolls right through super tuesday pair that is going to happen here. bernie might not get more than 30%, am i right? >> there are four people in the race come if you get 30%, you are the winner. almost every single time. i'm not a math guy, you are. but that's the way it works. >> laura: elizabeth warren has a big decision to make tonight if she cares about the progressive wing of her party and the chances of beating the establishment of the party, she's got to get out of the race tonight. she is not going to be the nominee. will she make that choice customer card to put your ego in the backseat. gentlemen, thank you so much. and bill hemmer will be here and moments to tell us where and why. we are still waiting on the votes. is there another issue going on? what is happening, why can't we get this call? luscombe's biden's fall and opportunity for another 2020 hopeful we just talked about? michael bloomberg already spent $350 million. our pollster panel weighs in.
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>> laura: the race is tightening between bernie and buttigieg. is this call is going to be later than we thought at all. we thought it was going to happen maybe two hours ago. i want to turn to bill hemmer, anchor of "bill hemmer report" and the fox touch screen with all the latest details. we are still waiting for the votes to come in. what is it looking like? >> yes, we are appeared a lot of people thought we would make a call earlier tonight. it is not the case and now we are waiting to see when we can make that decision. we've got 65% of the state reporting. to show you in a moment, two significant counties that have not quite half the vote still outstanding and that is part of the reason why we can't make a call. really close race. 3500 votes that separate bernie sanders from pete buttigieg, so this is tight at the moment and i will
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tell you why. new hampshire, vermont to the west, as you know from going to school here, massachusetts to the south and maine off to the east here, this is merrimack county here, and this is where you find the capital city. looking at the vote totals here, the other candidates aren't on the screen so i don't have a firm number or a fixed number on the total vote that is reporting, but close to half of the county still to report numbers on the night based on the tabulations we have here. the capital city there, as i mentioned, just south here is where we are located. in bedford new hampshire. i'm looking at these totals as well. between bernie sanders, buttigieg and klobuchar, you're on board with about 30,000 votes. let's say some of the others scatter another 5,000. you were still about 50% based on what it did four years ago back in 2016. so again, that is part of the reason we can't make a call yet. looking at this, ten counties across new hampshire. bernie sanders swept them all
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when it was one-on-one with hillary clinton four years ago. at the moment, 67% of the vote, buttigieg is leading in four of the ten counties. i don't know many people who would've made that prediction prior to the new hampshire primary vote today but at the moment, that is where buttigieg is and he really got a balance based on iowa, and for memories sake, go back a week and a day. in iowa, now we are starting to see this in a whole different light. .1%, unofficial tally in iowa. remember, sanders said he had 6,000 votes more than anyone else in the field on the first alignment and then everyone moved around and this appears to be the output from iowa. but they are 1-2 in iowa and then we pop out here to new hampshire and at this point, 10:30 east coast time, they are 1-2 yet again, so we will wait until the clock runs out here, a difference of 3,000 votes between these two, so someone is
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going to come out with a goal, they're going to head to nevada after this and south carolina at the end of the month in february but right now, too close to call it a pretty close race that a lot of people did not expect. >> laura: bernie wins every district, contiguous with vermont except one, right? so wins three, one goes to buttigieg. countywise, wins a lot closer to massachusetts and maine. interesting. where's elizabeth warren? she is from neighboring massachusetts and she is down 10%. >> she was in rocking him a lot. you could make a case that may be it's the outer suburbs of boston based on the population movement over the past 20 years. she didn't show up in this county. she's in single digits and joe biden's as well. massachusetts, former president
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of the united states and single digits in a democratic primaries quite a story. >> laura: fascinating, thanks so much. we will be back to you. and former vice president front runner as bill said, joe biden, fled new hampshire today, that was a very brave, before a disappointing finish and he dropped out of south carolina state that he thinks may be his firewall, but he will even make it that far. let's go to fox news correspondent jacqui heinrich who is on the ground where the biden campaign just wrapped an event today. you've been following the biden camp for a while now. today seem upbeat after new hampshire? >> tonight's event was certainly upbeat. it was a packed room and the former vice president started out by saying you have no idea how good it feels to be back in south carolina, and no doubt it does probably feel pretty good after what looks to be happening in new hampshire. absolutely an effort to divert the focus from that into a
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forward-looking moment for his campaign but it did come as a surprise to everyone, including his supporters and even some surrogates who told fox, what happened in new hampshire, bailing on his very own primary night watch party was disappointing, a little bit discouraging, and that surrogate said he thought voters might be a little discouraged by that too but the biden campaign is really depending on south carolina to act as a firewall. he's been touting long-standing support from the black community, saying to folks here in the crowd that you can't be the nominee without support from the black and brown communities. reminding folks about his eight years as president obama's vp and all the things they got done and he said iowa and new hampshire don't reflect the demographics of the rest of the country. take a listen. >> it is important that iowa and nevada have spoken below, we need to hear from nevada and south carolina and beyond.
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look, we're moving at an especially important phase because up until now, we haven't heard from the most constituents in the democratic party. the african-american community, and the fastest-growing segment, the latino community. >> had biden stated new hampshire he might've face questions about whether or not he was going to suspend his campaign or whether or not he is the most electable candidate here in south carolina. >> laura: all right, thanks so much. joining me now, a poster and editor at large, tom bevan, cofounder and president of real clear politics and byron york, chief political correspondent of th.he lost eight of the first losses but is not really a feasible path here. i was kind of joking, upbeat after new hampshire but this looks like a weak move going
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down to south carolina when you have your people who didn't work hard for you, panned out, but you got to take your lumps and move on. >> look, i think biden is a political dead man walking at this point. you can't finish as poorly as he did in the first two contests. south carolina is 18 days away. it is a long, long time. he is out of money, he's going to be struggling and we are going to see his support the road in nevada and we are going to see a road in south carolina and by the time that vote is taken, he may not even be in first place. his campaign is in real trouble right now. >> laura: at what point does joe biden decide? this has been fun, i've run for president a bunch of times, this isn't working, i've got to give the moderates a chance to win make this thing. >> he is not going to decide that. he's going to be 1 of 7 candidates coming out of super tuesday with the delegates. he's going to hang onto those. people right now are already
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voting in california, in texas, voting in minnesota. so what is going to happen is joe biden is going to say, i am in the sputum going to stay in this and you're going to have a lot of delegates -- or a lot of candidates competing for that vote. >> laura: byron, we've been watching a lot of presidential contests together over the years since, i don't know, 1996 or so. when you watch this play out, doesn't not remind you somewhat of 2016? were you had an upstart candidate, winner-take-all, changing the dynamics, i think scott is right there, if you're going to take out the establishment, the more moderate wing of your party, you've got to form a coalition early because that juggernaut starts going and it's almost unstoppable. and this thing is over by mid-march at the latest. >> this is a couple things, the bernie sanders' lead seems to be narrowing but it is a lead. the voters and no he won the
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most votes in iowa and if he wins back here in new hampshire tonight he is basa and new hampshire and usually that means a candidate goes on to win nomination. so, you're right about the coalition part, if people want to stop that they are going to have to somehow get together. the interesting thing about the joe biden, he shed voters by the hour and it does not appear that any of them went to bernie sanders. they went either amy klobuchar or pete buttigieg. >> laura: but elizabeth warren gives her 10% bernie sanders, where else are they going to go? >> it's interesting, i went to o the elizabeth warren event tonight and an odd moment, she comes out a 8:to zero, fairly early, there weren't many tvs around, this is kind of a dead giveaway for a campaign that ist doing very well, no introductory speaker, she comes out and says, senator sanders ay
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buttigieg have had great nights, and i'm really happy for amy klobuchar and we need to be honest with ourselves. for moment people started looking at each other thinking, she going to quit? the answer is no, she did not. she went on about how the party had to unify and that she was going to stay in it. but what you're saying earlier is absolutely true, he can't really have two candidates in the progressive wing and expect to win. >> laura: all right, we actually heard from warren. we will play a little bit from her. we have to get back to scott here and tom, i'm going to play something free that will blow everyone's socks away. let's watch warren tonight. >> senator sanders and mary buttigieg are great people but the fight between factions in our party has taken a sharp turn in recent weeks here these harsh tactics might work if you are willing to burn down the rest of the party in order to be the last man standing. if we are going to beat
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donald trump in november, we will need a nominee that is the broadest coalition of our party feels like they can get behind. >> laura: that is true, but where does that leave us tonight? when we have a gaggle of moderates and then you have warren and sanders together. the gaggle of moderates is a bigger coalition than the gaggle of the two progressives, right? >> yeah, this is what is interesting about amy klobuchar's surge. she's going to come out of this night with his narrative that, i've got momentum, i'm in third place, we will probably see her get some lift in nevada and south carolina as well. that is actually going to help strengthen ernie because now you've got another moderate taking up some space and presumably she will get windfall of money, so she will be able to stay in this thing longer. the longer the moderates stay in the race to the point that you've been making all night, the better it is for bernie. i think elizabeth warren, she
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didn't do very well tonight. there's no real path forward for her so at some point she's going to have to decide to make a decision and if some of her voters migrate to bernie it is going to strengthen them even more. to his point, he comes away the winner of the first two contests with the most votes come he's leading in the national polls come he's there front runner in the democratic establishment is going to have to find a way to stop him. >> laura: excellent analysis from all of you. we have to take a break, pay the bills. we await still this race call.
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♪ >> laura: poor joe biden 's candidacy is cratering and bernie sanders is emerging. maybe not as big win as he hoped. we will see when this race is ultimately called. but bloomberg sees this as an opportunity to sweep in. newly resurfaced audio recordings might complicate his rise. while bloomberg has now disavowed to stop and frisk come here he is in 2015 defending it. speak of the unintended consequences is people say, oh, my god, you are arresting kids for marijuana, they are all minorities. yes, that is true. why do we do it? because that is where all the crime is.
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[indiscernible] >> laura: that is not all. here's what he said in 2013. >> one newspaper and one news service, they just keep saying, yes, it is a disproportionate percentage of a particular ethnic group. that may be but it's not a disproportionate percentage of witnesses who describe committing it. in that way we disproportionately stop whites too much and minorities into little. >> laura: joining me now, bloomberg 2020 campaign at trump 2020 campaign poster. how does bloomberg come back from this? >> he's already apologized for his support for stop and frisk and i think we live in a different era where voters have both shorter memories and perhaps a greater tolerance for mistakes. we wouldn't have president donald trump given some of his statements in the past, if the
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electorate wasn't that way. >> laura: hold on a second. this isn't bernie sanders decades ago talking about communism. this is just a few years ago. >> sure. >> laura: that is bloomberg on tape and i think trump said this today in his remarks, these people go to churches and they say, i'm sorry, i'm sorry. five seconds ago and now suddenly you disavow everything you said? trump spoke out. let's watch what trump said today about it. >> i think when a man as with stop and frisk his whole life and then he decides to go democrat and he goes to a church and he is practically crying, you look like hell, practically crying saying what horrible thing he did, i think that is so disingenuous. you know what i'm talking about, fellas. of bloomberg, look, he's a lightweight. >> laura: if authenticity matters to voters, doesn't that smack of inauthenticity? >> again, trump who supports stop and frisk has had a three
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or four registrations in a number of ideologies. it's a question of the here and now appear bloomberg has had a 16 or 1 17 in the polls, is at l with african-americans. i think he is a real good shot to break through and certainly he has made it clear, he apologized, he has a program, inclusive elimination, mass incarceration, so i think he will get through it. obviously this was not the best possible remark or the best possible day, but i think it would be a mistake to overstay it. >> laura: if the republicans at any of these things in the way that he said them -- i mean, trump thinks, he believes in stop and frisk. >> the untold story tonight, the independents coming into the republican primary, and donald trump right now as we are sitting here is running about 86% of the vote. that is what reagan got in '84. presidents that have been reelected in the party's primaries, nixon had 68, clinton
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had 84, w had 80%, and obama had 81%. trump is at that level and no one is talking about it. so the president on his record of success and accomplishments, and he's going to do better with african-american voters than the democrats even care to mention because we know the black letters are very happy with what he's done. criminal justice reform, plus they had the lowest unemployment rates ever, so the president is doing very well in his record. >> laura: is he worried about bloomberg? trump does value people who have been successful. he admires people who have been successful. bloomberg was an unbelievable success story. fired, collapsed out of there, started his own company, richest man in all of new york. a global brand, trump loves brands. in a lot of ways he is a kind of trump story that trump laws even though he went kind of liberal. >> but he still hasn't win a primary on the democratic side.
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>> i mean, polls are polls. but the media still have the democratic bias but when you look at it, you want to pick a fight with us, he's got to get senator sanders -- >> laura: bloomberg, we're just playing it out. if all this goes away and at the end you've got bloomberg standing on the heap of the moderates and the progressives, it's like, okay, i came in here and i spent a couple million. i'm just kidding. but he's sprinkling a lot of moaning like, we are all happy he spent a lot of money but he could end up on the top of this -- i don't want to call it a pile, people will think i'm being mean, but a pile of candidates that were either lost or stepped aside. that would be a heck of a debate as well. blumy versus bernie? what about bloomy versus trump? >> both are capitalists. one is one of the most successful capitalists in the world. >> laura: one has led the most successful recovery in my era.
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incredible. >> in our lifetime and the city and this country. >> laura: one is pro-china, one wants to open the door to have china take our factory jobs and the other action wants to take on china. >> but the former mayor of new york has to get by the former socialist mayor of vermont in the former mayor of south bend. they are ahead of him in the polls. >> laura: a number of democrats think it doesn't matter, anyone who can beat this guy. watch what they said. >> i could go on fifth avenue and find a stranger that would be a better candidate than donald trump. >> joe biden beating donald trump. bernie sanders beating donald trump. had they thrown catherine clark in there, she would've beat donald trump. >> i think, you know, we could run mickey mouse against this president and have a shot. >> donald trump in the battleground states, his numbers are moving up your democratic
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front runners, joe biden, is in shambles. >> laura: anyone can beat trump, that is what they are saying. because they are wrong. mike bloomberg has come i'm not sure anyone else has. he's doing pretty well down south, in second place in florida and doing competitively in alabama and arkansas. >> laura: where is he on drug legalization? he was good on the pot issue. good in my view. is he for legalizing all the stuff now? because he used to be against it. >> he is for decriminalization. >> what about the mayor of new york, he's been silent on what is going on and they are letting hate crimes criminals -- >> laura>> i don't think they an anything if you see what bill de blasio said on him. >> laura: how was he going to argue that trump is not a success on these trade deals and what would bloomberg have done to family on china, usmca and the new british trade deal? >> i think let's tune into the general election and we will see what he has to say.
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>> laura: all right, thank you so much for being here tonight. we're still waiting for a call in new hampshire tonight. i want to bring in martha maccallum, bret baier. both are waiting. the results, martha, and a sense of how late this could go customer unbelievable. >> martha: we are hearing soon. we are hoping we can make a call soon. we're basically looking at two counties here. we are waiting for these last votes to come in and one of the interesting things that came out in the fox about her analysis, laura, is that the late deciders tied between buttigieg and klobuchar and i think we are seeing some of that play out here late night tonight. >> bret: those two cities are actually the ones that are just not complete and they are actually down to like, 22%, 33% reporting, the rest of it, 100% reporting and there you can see the breakdown but there is en there that buttigieg could close or klobuchar could come in second.
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it looks like bernie sanders is heading for a win. but it is going to be a lot closer than people thought going into tonight. >> laura: pete buttigieg is taking the microphone now so we're going to stop in and check in with him and see what he has to say. this is just a squeaker. let's watch. >> thank you to our extraordinary national cochair, congresswoman, who knows how to raise the roof and how to get out the votes! [applause] [crowd chanting] >> and thank you to the love of my life, who keeps me grounded and makes me hole. [applause]
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>> i want to congratulate my competitors and supporters of their campaigns in new hampshi new hampshire. i admire senator sanders when i was a high school student, i respect him greatly to this day and i congratulate him on his strong showing tonight. and i want to congratulate senator klobuchar, senator warren, vice president biden and all of our democratic candidates and supporters. [applause] and i know that we all share the spirit that we heard from some of our volunteers at a poll site earlier today who welcomed a competing candidate with chads of "vote blue no matter who." we are on the same team.
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[applause] now over the past year, some two dozen campaigns have crisscrossed this state, each laying claim to the ability to bring people together, turn out the vote, and move americans towards a brighter future. that too. [applause] and here in a state that goes by the motto "live free or die," you made up your own minds. [applause] you asserted that famous independence and thanks to you, a campaign that some said it shouldn't be here at all, has shown that we are here to stay. [applause]
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>> laura: that's pete buttigieg who's been speaking in new hampshire. i want to bring back our panelists. it sounded like the beginning of a concession speech, very gracious there but this hasn't ended yet. is this iowa, is something going on? it looks like we have a few counties come again. >> it's right around 4,000 votes, give him a lot of credit he got a lot of undecided voters. i wondered earlier if he was going to declare victory. he's sharp and quick on the draw to run down to that podium which is smart and try to spin what he has done. he's done great, i don't know if it's going to be a victory but he's going to make the most of his moment. >> laura: amy klobuchar did speak earlier tonight, saying that she started off strong but by the end it petered out a
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little bit, everyone is tired. they are exhausted, where does she stand after this? >> pete probably could have won if she hadn't had this great balance the last couple of days. she has to search her soul and decide if she wants to go forward, they have to talk about resources. pete has got resources, i don't think he has had the same kind of resources, maybe she gets a bounce out of this performance tonight. that is the key, going to south carolina is one thing, going into super tuesday when you have to compete all over the country you need to have money for that and if you don't have it, you can't go on. if you can't compete on super tuesday, you have to ask why you're going to south carolina. >> laura: speaking of super tuesday, people don't realize that california is voting now, that's part of super tuesday. you go into super tuesday with a lot of people in this race who don't have a path to the presidency, it strengthens
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bernie sanders even if he only wins by two percentage points in new hampshire, after pete buttigieg squeaked out that 0.1% victory in iowa after all of those issues. >> because california was sick of not mattering previously in previous election cycles and didn't like to be in june, you're exactly right, it could very well be consequential. what i think is happening and you are very smart on this point is that the moderates will not form an alliance, they won't form a coalition to try to beat bernie and because of that, we are seeing the democratic civil war. we did this in our party, the populist nationalists won. we took over the party, they are having the civil war right now and the populist left led by bernie sanders has a clear lane as long as that many relatively strong candidates stay in the field. >> laura: match lap, pete buttigieg is a sharp guy, impressive resume, he's not going to be the nominee of the democratic party, do you agree?
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there is not a path for south bend mayor at this point, maybe someday. >> p could be a great secretary of hud. he is in it because he thinks he can be or he want something else? at >> it's a lower income he's doing so well. he is in his 30s. he had the best ground game, these people are exciting about him he's got lightning and a bottle. this isn't the worst thing for the democrats to have this debate. >> he's having a better night than bill clinton did in 1992. i know my conservatives, you want to bernie sanders as your nominee, i was hoping for donald trump, i was wrong. careful what you wish for. >> laura: i don't underestimate bernie at all. >> bernie has an army.
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>> laura: people who are overconfident as republicans going into this make a huge mistake. donald trump is the smartest political mind out there, he is extremely savvy how things are going. he drops a piece of meat out there, -- >> i grew up in new york, i know all about him. >> laura: right now, you watch the state of new hampshire, i love that state, it's an exciting place to be especially this time of year. they really do get to know people, they are savvy people. the manchester union leader, this is old-style america, they haven't grown much in population, small population growth but they say we still are important and you're going to pay attention to us and we are going to determine something tonight. i speak of the referendum on biden is important. >> laura: new hampshire could have killed off joe biden. >> i met him when i worked in the united states senate, i'm
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sad to see him go. >> i feel bad for corn pop too. >> laura: fantastic conversation, that's all the time we have. brett baron martha maccallum in new hampshire, take it away. >> bret: right now in the granite state, the outcome of tonight's primary is anything but set in stone, we are live from bedford new hampshire, this is fox news democracy 2020 and the new hampshire primary and it's still going on, i'm brett bear. i martha maccallum, right now this race is too early to call, numbers in some areas not complete yet and once again, bernie sanders and pete buttigieg are battling it out for the top spot. this is a state that sanders won handily four years ago but now he finds himself just barely eking out a potenti
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