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this china stuff, it's going to affect revenue. there is no denying it now. is that the start of something else that's bigger? we will see it tomorrow. "the five." ♪ >> dana: hello everyone, i'm dana perino along with emily, jesse watters, and greg. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ another jam-packed week of 2020 politics as president trump threatens to overshadow democrats yet again. he is up for a big las vegas rally the day before the nevada caucuses, which are on saturday. instead of putting their full focus on trump, 2020 democrats going after each other, this time setting their sights on michael bloomberg at his campaign spending. >> he just can't hide behind the airways. he has to answer questions.
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>> $60 billion can buy you a lot of advertising. it can't erase your record. there's a lot to talk about michael bloomberg. >> no one should be able to buy an election. >> i've got news for mr. bloomberg. that is the american people are sick and tired of billionaires buying elections. >> dana: bloomberg report dominick's last comments considered to cause controversy. his campaign responded by saying that his comments were being taken out of context. take a look. >> if you think about the agrarian society. it lasted 3,000 years. i can teach anybody, even people in this room, to be a farmer. you dig a hole, you put a seat in. you put dirt on top. then, you have 300 years of the industrial society.
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you turn the crank in the direction of the arrow. >> dana: bloomberg also making news today after his campaign pushed back on a report that he would consider hillary clinton as his vice presidential pick. i think that was not true. just to come and you think that was true? i think hillary clinton's people put that out there. >> jesse: i don't know if i would trust hillary as a vp. she's got so much baggage. he need someone young and energetic. clinton doesn't come to mind when you think about that. that's interesting. i learned a lot of interesting things about mike bloomberg this weekend. he's been nasty to women and to blacks and two seniors and two farmers, but i did not know that he puts ice in his beard, which is pure psychopath. [laughter] >> dana: if you are a billionaire -- >> jesse: i guess you can. bottom line, do any of these
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democrats out there, are they talented enough to capitalize on all these ridiculous things coming out of the bloomberg campaign? my answer is no. this is not strong enough and they are all too weak. the guy has got no message. what is his message? i'm richer and nicer than donald trump? what is the it that mike can get done? he's not even running his campaign peered he's just cutting checks. he's not even dictating. everyone is getting rich off of it. >> dana: but his numbers are going up. >> don't worry about michael bloomberg. yes, baby. i can see you. when you first start describing this man, i thought you were talking about donald trump. by the way, michael bloomberg is a former republican. i was there when he spoke at the 2004 republican convention. that's correct. you know what? now he's running. dana asked a good question.
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his so-called slogan is mike will bring decency, respect, and something else back to the white house. [laughter] >> jesse: something else. it doesn't matter. >> here's the thing. michael bloomberg is running a two track campaign. the first is to get people to talk about him. the second is to get people like us to vote for him. now come on the first track, we are succeeding. we are talking about it. the second track, i don't think he's going to do that. that's it. can we talk about something el else? >> dana: michael bloomberg, especially if you are in your 70s and you're running, you've probably gone to a lot of events. i imagine they are going to drop these little videos of michael bloomberg. >> greg: tasteful photography in his past. i was going to defend him until you told me about the ice cubes. now, i don't know what to do. this whole thing of this
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outrage, if the outrage is too easy, it's out of context, which means that almost all outrage is all is out of context. i defend it with people i like and they will defend it with bloomberg, who i'm kind of indifferent towards. if you examine the statement that he made in an audience that understands the statement and you take it under context, it means something else. i'm going to take a statement that he made that not everybody is saying is really bad. in 2011, he said that there is enormous cohort of men who don't know how to behave in the workplace. that's not terrible. everyone is talking about it. but then the context is that he was speaking while introducing $127 million program to help minority guides get jobs. why is that program necessary, because there's an issue. he explains why there is an issue and he's trying to remedy the issue. it's not fair to anybody.
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to keep pulling these things out. the problem with the democrats or the left actually, they can't pass their own standards anymore, because you have a pocket of intersectional activists who think everybody is oppressed and you are the oppressor. so, they are applying today's standards to decisions that one made in the past. you can't do that. >> the other thing, greg, to your point, back in the day, stop and frisk, before was ruled unconstitutional was a practice not just here in new york, but other cities. let's just get that straight. donald trump made a speech before the police chiefs into 2018 where he said it was a good policy. you know why? you stop people just because of their skin color. by the way, i can't get rid of this.
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just because of your skin color, you are pulling people aside. that was ruled unconstitutional. >> greg: can i respond to this customer care two points. was originally called stop, question, and frisk. that was the original mistake. but nobody ever mentions the western part. before stop and frisk, people would complain that people only care about crimes if it happens to a white person, hence the missing white girl gets attention but the black boys in atlanta didn't. that was a big criticism. so new york city decides, we are going to focus on minority neighborhoods and get the crime out of there. that's racist too. so if you focus, you are racist and if you don't care, you are racist. you can't win. >> many innocent people were pulled over, questioned, stopped, simply because of the way they look. that's why it's good to talk about the policy and just not make it about the personality. >> dana: let's get emily in
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here. whatever you want to talk about. i was thinking about bloomberg's side of things. we are all talking about him, but really the democrats are all talking about him. you are trying to buy this election. >> emily: right, and it remains to be seen how many people don't care about that because they say the only thing that matters is beating donald trump at the ballot box. i think it's interesting about all of the years that we are looking back on bloomberg, is that yes, when you isolate the comments, you can either defend them or somehow explain them away, which a lot of people are doing. but i think when you stand back and look at the trend, it derives that demeaning attitude or simply the selfish attitude that up until now, the entire democratic party was trying to get away with that. they didn't want another new york self-centered narcissistic fly over the country hating person. that's exactly what this person is representing himself to be in all of those video clips and the book about him and everything.
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it's not just one comment. there is a ton that sort of belie that type of i'm better than you personality. i think it's interesting what klobuchar said. look, you are beating us in the ads but you are not going to beat us on the stage. it's really going to be fascinating to finally see him and see whether his explanation of the stop and frisk. >> dana: it will be a big pile-on. >> i don't know. i think they are waiting on one more poll. that is not fair. >> greg: i can make short jokes. >> dana: coming up, after his conviction, will there be any self reflection? coming up next. ♪ as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchemel... cut. liberty mu... line?
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♪ >> greg: some are calling it a first ever for cnn. no, not a ratings win. in front of an audience, you can count on your fingers and toes one anchor gave this moment of self reflection. >> i thought he could be a serious candidate for president. it was that stupid on my part? would you make of how he was covered by nbc? >> greg: now that he has been found guilty of extortion about two go on trial, i think the answer is yes. you were stupid. that's putting it lightly. this should have happened a while ago before all the montages kissing his --
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what if he hadn't been found guilty? it would have landed right in cnn's open arms. but i should stop. i'm being a -- you should never mock someone for doing the right thing, i say good job, brian. and you too. >> the total collapse. i feel kind of snickered, because i took him seriously. >> greg: that means that you were unfairly tricked, that you are the victim, but why were you feefooled when everyone else w wasn't? the media's excuse was that avenatti was a part of the story. no, they were looking for a savior. after all, where is the spotlight now? their desperation made them for angeles.
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hooray for self reflection, but remember they just spent years. they will be back on that horse in no time leaving a trail of maneuver kno no matter where t go. you agree with me on everything i just said, don't you? [laughter] why is it so hard for the media to self reflect? speak of the media should. we all should. that's what institutions do. look, michael avenatti came to the meeting back in 2019. he came for my vote and the votes of other democrats. many of us look him up, looked him down. he always wore nice suits. [laughter] >> greg: not that night. >> michael avenatti, put it that way. i hope he gets a fair trial in
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california, but $175 million worth of free media. defending stormy daniels, going out there with some other person. >> greg: speaking of free media, i want to play some free media. you guys all comment on it. this is more of the obsession with avenatti. >> i think that mueller is not going to take trump down. i think that avenatti is going to take trumped on. >> michael avenatti. >> for president in 2020? >> he is donald trump's worst nightmare. >> greg: i don't know who to call on for this one where the holy spirit? anybody? >> greg>> emily: i'll take it. if there is a lot of hype about something, like if it's a good movie or novel, i always want to
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wait a minute. let someone else test the tires before i step in. >> greg: emily, you're a lawyer. i look at you differently. [laughter] >> emily: what? i have so many troubling aspects about this. one of them being the total collapse of his life. the total collapse doesn't happen overnight. that's like when you hear about a celebrity or a star, and you're like no, that was ten years of them sleeping in their car and going to auditions 24 hours a day. you don't get to a 36 count federal indictment without years of preparation. he hasn't paid taxes since 2010. so the notion, and that doesn't include, by the way -- >> greg: how do you do that?
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[laughter] >> emily: he got caught is the bottom line. all of that is not only discoverable, but obvious. the fact is that this is like oh, we had no idea, all of this is about them, not him. >> we need to vet cabinet members. we need to vet people in general. that's why they are vetting michael bloomberg. okay? >> greg: we know bloomberg. we knew trumped. we don't know this guy. does this guy have any excuse for saying that we were snookere? >> jesse: everybody at the bar knows that she's a -- they are all laughing, but he thinks he's in love. no one really believes there's a connection there. she takes his money. he has a good time, but he learns nothing from it and he
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does it again the next month. this is what happens in the media. if the dossier, it's covington. they say global warming is going to kill us in ten years. these people get taken advantage of by the cia, by leakers, by politicians, by lobbyists. if they had the same agenda as you, they would just buy the media up and they are gone the next day. >> waiting in the water. >> dana: i might have held your hand on that one. the media is being used and they kind of like it. >> you talk about. >> greg: who is running michael? interesting. we have more of this conversation coming up. former journalist throws their support behind bloomberg, but will it backfire? that's next. ♪ ♪
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♪ >> retired news anchor, yes, he's my friend, he is endorsing mike bloomberg. >> i think mike bloomberg is best suited to take on donald trump this november and beat him. that something that i think is very important for the country. we are in the grips of an ignorant man. he is mean, he is corrupt, and if we don't get this right, we may lose the things that have made this country the best place to live in the world. >> wait a minute. there is more. katie couric said this and she is also my friend. >> let me ask everyone about this reason michael bloomberg, first of all, he was insulting trumped the other day. >> oh, my -- so amazing, wasn't it?
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trump is like a missile. he can latch onto your vulnerability and bloomberg, in that one tweet, donald trump states that his back was turned. >> all my -- all my friends are just jumping on board the bloomberg train. i better just go ahead and get myself a helicopter and fly over there. we all know that celebrity media endorsements, they always occur, but this is a journalist. dana, what do you think? >> dana: i don't know. i think if you are not under 45, you might not remember sam donaldson, but in my house, we watched all the news, we watched all the programs, all the sunday shows paired my dad and i would watch it, debate it, loved it. he was one of those guys from back then. katie couric, i'm going to set that aside, because i do think it's a little bit different.
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sam donaldson was one of those people that when they george h.w. bush campaign, when they would complain about media bias, it was people like sam donaldson that said how dare you accuse us of media bias. when "newsweek" ran that cover about george h.w. bush at the time and they complained, he's like, "how dare you. we are journalists. we are fair." i don't think he did the media any favors if they are worried about their credibility. >> i don't think it matters. >> i'm indignant anyway. >> by the way, for the record, there are so many endorsements out there. he endorsed joe biden. michael bloomberg, judge duty also. >> greg: love her. here's the deal. i'm not friends with either of them, so i don't care. katie's problem is that she was
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trying to be to current and too cool. she fell for the mind reading trick like she knows what trump is thinking. she is completely gone. she doesn't know what she's talking about. the joke about sam is that he said it was the first time in his career that he's made a political choice. how blind does he have to be do not see that he has made his own bias? [laughter] if that is real. these are parallel blind spots. if you can't see what's crazy on top of your head, you can't see what's crazy inside your head. [laughter] >> first of all, i've known him for a long time. i will defend sam donaldson any day of the week. he's a wonderful person. >> greg: i will trash and many dayparts because you are trashing him for what reason? >> greg: i don't like, hey, i knew this guy. i don't care. i can't hear him with that shiny thing on his head.
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>> jesse: he ordered his own news organization not to report on him. i mean, it's total hypocrisy. think about it. we are not having the media endorsed a billionaire who says mean things about women and says we need to throw a box up against the wall and it's not donald trump customer seriously customer it is that where we are right now? this guy endorsed scott brown. he endorsed george w. bush over john kerry. he endorsed sanders, who spent the most by $400 million. $400 million, donna. there is a huge gap between the rich and the poor. you can't buy elections. then, a billionaire starts, comes along and starts saying mean things about trump, everybody starts gushing. >> he knew donald trump in ways
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that many of us don't know donald trump. john legend endorsed elizabeth warren. >> dana: and that's helped. i'm kidding. >> no, but that's my whole point. endorsements really don't matter. i'm glad sam has an opinion. he's a retired journalist and he is free to do what he wants. >> greg: he should be retired. [laughter] that hair is only 20. >> go ahead. i'm sorry. >> emily: it's okay. those endorsements only work in the micro sense that if john legend were to host a celebrity only dinner at $25,000 a plate, go ahead. all it is is exhausting and disappointing. when i was looking at this new favorite author of mine, the first thing i saw was a very disappointing tweets come in my opinion.
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what else do i want to say? similar to what we talked about a moment ago that all this does is speak volumes about those journalists and not the candidates that they are trying to endorse. sam a donaldson is saying that he understands people. really? that's a phrase you're going to use about 30 years? oh, he does? oh, i'm going to vote for him. all it does, and also the fact that he has a huge disconnect between those media figures and actual real people. with katie couric sitting there insane, he is like a missile and ha ha, amazing. new york is not the center of the world. they are disconnected by who is running on the left and also the media that is covering it. >> donna: let's just say that dave chapelle endorsed yang. yang is out. zoom zoom. president trump got a warm welcome at the daytona 500.
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of patriots here today have come for the fast cars of the world class motorsports, but nascar fo matter who wins the race, what matters most is god, family, and country. >> jesse: emily, did you watc watch? >> emily: so excited about this topic. when i cheered, there were so many people who, when we would go do philanthropic things, thee one second they might ever have in their whole lifetime. it was so important for me to be that person to represent the organization, because it was all larger than me. that's how i felt about this. how incredible for the president to be at the daytona 500 and to meet people and to be among people who don't live in d.c. who don't have that sort of everyday access that a lot of journalists do. we saw a tweet. she was saying using the
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official apparatus of the government. you know what that was? the beast is 22,000 pounds of -- having our president leading the nascar race, he said, i judge people on how they treat me. the president in that moment shook my hand. he took selfies. he did everything we wanted him to do. he was a regular guy who was excited about being there. i was 100% proud of my president and i loved everything about it. >> jesse: you don't think that was abusive at the president did, right? >> donna: whenever you use funds. [laughter] i love sports. george w. bush went. ronald reagan went. have fun. i'm not into that. >> jesse: good.
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i'm excited to hear that. all presidents do sporting events. >> donna: he went to the final game with clinton. as far as i'm concerned, every time he shows up, my team wins. >> jesse: except for the last time in 2016. what do you think? >> dana: from a communication standpoint, it was masterfully-done. nothing you can do about that. that actually meant he got two days out of it. whenever a president is running for reelection, there are complaints about this. believe me, people were complaining about barack obama who was using official funds to go and do fun things. but i love it. it doesn't matter. you have to understand that if you're going to try to compete against him if he's running for reelection, he has to make it look better. he has to compensate.
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>> jesse: greg was probably hating on him for that. i stood back and i realized. >> greg: people ignore the elephant in the room, which is climate change. all those cars going around, the plane coming down, disgusting. the lesson here i think is what emily brought up. it's kind of like a mockery. there was a lot of -- on twitter. not at the president. what they would call the toothless, the redneck. this is the thing that the democrats have to get away from. you've got to stop -- groups. let's focus on the positive. the guy knows how to put on a show. the thing is, i think donna knows the difference between the show and the job. i think it drives people crazy when you can't tell the
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difference. never-trumpers upset when they see this, because they can't see the difference between show and job and it freaks them out. when you see that trump is having a good time, people are having a good time, so what. it's fun. he is good around everybody. he can do "snl," he knew comedy central. >> jesse: they can't have nascar under sanders. they want to get rid of gasoli gasoline. >> donna: he's bipartisan. >> greg: yeah, that's true. >> jesse: already taking things to the next level. that's coming up on "the fastest seven." oh, hi, samantha. you look more like a heather. do you ever get that? it's nice to finally meet you in person. you're pete nocchio?
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do. you ask if it's okay first and then you do it. >> emily: greg. >> greg: he should resign. he is in effect saying it you don't get what you pay for. for example, if i buy a burger at mcdonald's, i don't need permission to eat it at mcdonald's. he is wrong. but i have a solution. i have a solution for this. when you purchase that seat, you buy all the parts of the seat, right? because its commerce. so why can't someone behind you can tell mike pay you not to recline? you would be purchasing that part of the chair so maybe the person will say, hi, dana. i will buy all of your drinks if you don't recline. isn't that the solution? 50 pesos. [laughter] >> jesse: as a valued gold medallion member, i understand what you are saying, but i think
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the proper thing to do instead of asking, i think you just put it down halfway. you don't go down on the way back. you go halfway back and call it a day. >> dana: some of them don't go halfway back. if you are short, i'm telling you, it is the worst, because the seat pushes your head down. >> greg: i hate that. >> dana: someone who is 6'5", they don't know what it's like. >> donna: that's why spend a lot of time on southwest airlines. as a "frequent flyer" i am annoyed when people lower their back into my tray and my drink and its bills. >> greg: what about when you lean back? >> donna: i never lean back, because i don't want him to sniff me. >> who does that? >> greg: joe biden does. [laughter] >> donna: he was annoying. he was rude.
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>> dana: he was not a gentleman. he was not raised right. to your comment about commerce, greg, i saw that there were definitely-valued seats. they were valued at last because they don't recline. we should be able to avail ourselves of it. next up, this may come as a surprise to some. more people died taking selfies than from shark attacks. over 25 250 people died from selfies. >> jesse: taking selfies with a sharp. that's how you really get killed. double trouble. stu we selfies. this is what happens when technology gets ahead of reality and we can figure it out yet.
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see one people should just learn to photoshop themselves into the picture that they want and not die. the national park service does have a problem. do not try to go out on this ledge and take a selfie. >> donna: yeah, it's dangerous. >> emily: i kind of love it. it's darwin's natural selection. yeah, if you are that dumb, you want to take a selfie, by don t turns out it was a monumental mistake. the excellently sent letters to all applicants instead of 46. >> jesse: if i get cancer, i'm not going to treatment there. who knows who's treating me. i'm not going to take that chance. >> greg: look, he could be worse than getting rejected by mayo clinic. i hate you.
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[laughter] i rented my room at berkeley to two students and they stole all of my posters. i haven't forgotten you. that was 1986. >> donna: what do you eat that allows you to be -- >> greg: it's what i don't ea eat. >> donna: if i'm accepted into medical school, i'm going to say return to sender. no way. >> danastay one in today's world instead of it, we will just take you all as a participation trophy, but then there are consequences. >> greg: people are sending them jars of mayo. i'm not kidding. i think i read that somewhere. in fact-check me, audience. >> emily: i feel bad for them. can you imagine that? >> greg: you probably learned more in that moment than you did
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♪ >> dana: time now for "one more thing." i'm going to show you something really cute. dogs are man's best friend come as we know, but they are also good opponents. take a look at this dog playing a game. >> you got it. you got it. yeah, good job. >> greg: he chokes on that. >> dana: he was taught to play connect four by his owner, sarah. as you can see, he's not great, but every once in a while, he
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gets lucky. he wins. i think that's pretty cute. a nice way to start a monday. >> emily: it's awesome that he can see the colors. i thought dogs were color-blind. >> greg: how did you know that dogs are a color-blind? you see how they dressed in the morning. >> jesse: i was up in vermont this weekend skiing with the family. there we are. >> greg: your energy level today has been amazing. [laughter] >> greg: i don't think you are jesse watters. >> jesse: i was feeling the brr. go to foxnews.com where you can get all of that nice gear. we have a special presidents' day sale. 15% off. go check out the hoodies, socks,
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and tumblers and so much more. >> greg: will the real jesse be back tomorrow. [laughter] >> jesse: i thought it was pretty good. >> greg: you seem very tired. >> jesse: just because i'm not talking in the commercial break like you maniacs? >> greg: yeah. [laughter] >> greg: what is this? animals are great? ♪ animals are great ♪ everybody has a superpower and even cats have a super power. for example, this cat can change it's size depending on the size of the exit. the owner just keeps making it. i think that's 3 inches. >> emily: rats too. >> greg: really, emily? how would you know that? you get a good scratch when you are doing. i think that's 2 inches or is that 1 inch? i'm not sure. there you go.
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[laughter] >> dana: emily, you are next. >> emily: oh great. i wanted to tell you about this awesome new brewery in north carolina. it was founded and totally owned and ran by veterans. one of the coolest things they had, they just had their grand opening. they have a wall inside where anyone can buy a beer for first responders, police, et cetera, and they put it up on the board and those guys can come in and get that free beer. we had them on fox earlier. we are so excited about it, so definitely go and hang out near charlotte. they are releasing this first ever charitable beer. all of the proceeds are going to the firefighters going to children fund. definitely pop in for a drink to buy one for first responders in our military. you can find them on my twitter
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page. >> donna: do you have any examples. >> dana: i feel like "the five" should go there and do a show. >> jesse: i have a feeling they should do a bar like that if they want to my dominic buy fox news people a drink. >> emily: we don't need anything. >> donna: once again, kobe bryant, the nba saluted wonderful basketball player, humanitarian, jennifer hudson did the great honor. ♪ ♪ >> donna: kobe bryant will be remembered not just as a great basketball player, but also a humanitarian, so god bless your family. god bless all of the other victims of the helicopter crash. we miss you all.
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>> dana: all right, jesse, are you going to recharge tonight? >> jesse: yes. i'm going to recharge the batteries. [laughter] >> dana: hey, bret. >> bret: i thought jesse was very energetic. good evening. i'm bret baier. almost 50 americans who were corcorn --most people will be in for another 14 days. for more than a dozen of them, that fear has turned to reality. there are economic fears tonight as apple's warning investors it will not meet its second quarter numbers because of a production cut in china where the outbreak is centered. we have coverage tonight. susan li in new york with what the apple announcement means for the markets. we begin with senior correspondent just

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