>> neil: i'm sure. thank you. give my best to fail. in the meantime, the dow down with the housing 31 on the day, as now that things have a habit of coming back. we'll see. >> greg: i'm greg gutfeld, with dagen mcdowell, and a wine cork is her barstool. this weekend, the 40th anniversary of the greatest sports upset ever when the u.s. olympic team beat the russians in hockey. up to that end, the red army team had one make a previous four gold medals dating back to 1960. the last time a u.s. team would buy gold. as a kid you can remember sitting in front of a tv transfixed, witnessing history, and my complete happy but you have to wonder where bernie sanders was back then and who he was rooting for.

here's bernie from the 80s. >> it's funny. sometimes talk about how bad a country is, people are lining up for food. in other countries, people don't line up for food for the rich get the food and the poor starve to death. >> dagen: that is amazing. that was a long time ago. but you might consider how soviet citizens felt when they heard a free person i in a free country papering over their misery doing publicity for their dictator. has bernie changed much? has learned not to minimize the tragedies of totalitarianism? here he was on the ""last night >> are very opposed to the it's unfair to say everything was b bad. when fidel castro came in the office, you know what he did? he had a massive literacy program. is that a bad thing to me even though fidel castro did it? >> greg: they joke that the left brings up when you wave the

ravages of communism. yes, ted bundy was a great dancer and charles manson played decent guitar. admitting castro did bad things? that's progress. as bernie a storm towards nomination, remembered the history, the good and the bad, and remember what side bernie chose. murderous tyrants. is that a bad thing to him even though a leading democratic candidate did it? the answer? it's bad. in his eighth decade, a long adult life to reconsider. still can't get it straight. welcome back, one. good to see you. is it good to be back? touring disney and universal studios and now you are back with the adults. >> juan: i was in the home of kiddy capitalism. >> greg: i think this a fair comparison, the weakness of a right is a desire to export

values to countries, but the weakness of the left is to romance any radical movement. the matter if it's cuba, the soviet union, el salvador, nicaragua, they've never met a revolutionary cause that they did not like. it isn't that kind of weakness that bernie expresses, maybe? >> juan: i think that's right. the problem at the moment is i think there are people both on the left in the right who don't understand how popular bernie's rhetoric is. this is a shock to me because i'm one of the people who didn't realize it, but the fact is there are some people come up people facing mounting medical bills. they do not care if bernie sanders said, yeah, fidel castro was not that bad. they do not carry not care bernie sanders says, i don't know how i'm going to pay for it. they say, wait a minute, my vehicle bills are overwhelming, got problems in my personal life, i see it through my prism, bernie sanders says this is going to help me. this is the populist appeal that trump had from the right?

this as the populist appeal from the left. we live in a populist political era. >> dagen: this could be the mirror of trump. we do have a tape >> greg: let'splay that. >> do you have a price tag for all of this? >> we do. the price tag is it'll be substantially less than the current system. i think it's about 30 trillion. >> that's just for medicare for all. do you have a price tag -- big on them i don't. you we pay for that through a modest tax on wall street speculation. >> you don't say what the total price is, but you know how it's going to be paid for. >> i can't rattle off you every nickel and every dime. >> greg: dana, no one can. >> dana: today he announced a $1.5 trillion program for child

care. that is truly cradle to the grave. from the beginning. the revolution, revolucion, is intoxicating. you've got to win florida if you want to win the presidency, that's a 50/50 proposition, trump has got the edge. you got someone like democratic congress from and donna shalala who represents miami comes out today on the could of atrophied and says, no that's not going to fly with us down here. another young congressman did the same, both democrats. i think the trump versus bernie change magica change the way we look at the world map. what's interesting, i was in colorado over the weekend where no matter who won in the state, they would pledge all the delegates to whoever won the national popular vote, what if president trump wins the popular vote because of this?

all of that effort on the left would've been for nothing and they'll try to change a system for no reason. >> jesse: there goes that talking point. can't wait until that happens. i just realized, one, if bernie is the nominee is going to have to defend bernie sanders for nine months. it's going to change the whole dynamic of "the five." about the literacy program, greg, they were teaching kids how to read hemingway and how to use an adverb. this was a propaganda effort. they were having them read karl marx. that wasn't the literacy! read "the communist manifesto." the other thing he phrases, fidel had three botched surgeries in his country by cuban doctors. they had to send out a surgeon in spain the come back and try to save his life, but he died. i don't know how they are going to get around him praising the soviet union, castro, hugo chavez.

when bernie needs seniors for him more than blacks, because seniors remember the cold war, money in the markets, maybe they owned a business. they won't fall for a republican but they aren't going to vote for a revolution and that's what bernie wants. my mom told me she will not vote for bernie sanders. >> greg: she's voting for trump? >> jesse: no. she will not vote for bernie because, bernie can't pay for anything. it doesn't add up. she also does not like being yelled at. but to your point -- not by me, but by bernie. to your point, juan, bernie makes people feel like he cares about them. workers feel like bernie cares and in the election, that's a big positive piece of empathy that you can come out and vote for someone based on. >> greg: it's the same thing with trump, trump felt like he was connecting with the voters and that's important, the dagen. with sanders, off the bat he

admitted that castro in cuba did bad things. to me, that's a little bit of growth. >> dagen: he's got better soft peddling his support for murdering dictators and leftists, to use your word, tyrants. getting better to get people to ignore it. if you go through the list, you said hugo chavez, he read a letter in '03, people who killed their own people as an or intentionally pretty supported the socialist workers party in 1980 and 1984, supported soviet leader daniel ortega calling him impressive, it takes sends for a regime to suppress newspapers. he advocated a 100% tyson anybody making more than the million dollars. asserted as recently as a pottery 87 it'll take over by the government of china and

swaths of the economy and the reason seniors will vote for him? medicare for all the only wipes away 180 million people's private insurance who get it to their employer, it also folds medicare into what exists today into his plan. gets rid of medicare as it exists today. try to sign somebody on that. >> juan: i remember 2016, trump said this, trump did this, trump change his opinion on abortion, he was a democrat -- and do you know what? that guy is president. >> dana: 's things like that made him stronger. >> dagen: he's running on taking health insurance away from individuals away from americans on medicare and four for this a medicaid get their benefits through private insurance company. this is today. the only argument the left has if bernie gets the nomination is, well, you might not do it. >> greg: if they lose the

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♪ >> jesse: russian hysteria flaming out again but only after the media tried to smear president trump. take a look. >> the president is a russian operative. >> the whole thing is starting over again. the president of united states is trying to cover it up. >> the russians are coming. >> yes, they are. >> they are coming again for their main man, donald j. trump. >> jesse: national security official pushing back on "the new york times" report claiming that russia is trying to get president trump reelected. the official says there is no evidence showing putin is trying to help trump win a second term. accusing democrats like adam schiff of leaking the information. >> nobody told me about that. they leaked it to the papers.

and as usual, they are going to investigate adam schiff, the leaking information. should not be leaking information out of intelligence. they ought to investigate adam schiff. jesse colin juan, i can't believe there is big news in "the new york times" and adam schiff is involved. i can't believe it. >> juan: and you look at that smile, i think donald trump is up it again. all over the idea, but the russians are helping bernie, but he somehow does not grasp they are also trying to help him. >> jesse: are they helping bernie? >> juan: that's what the president said. by the way, he said adam schiff leaked it, there's a lot of talk about other people on the republican side leaking it, but the point i would make out of that leak or no leak is that he didn't deny it when it first came out. over the weekend, fox on sunday,

other officials, it's not right. what came to my mind? the president still hasn't admitted that the russians help them in 2016. he's allergic to it. they undercut the value of his win, he always denies it, find a way to close his eyes. it's unbelievable. >> jesse: it's interesting that the intel community briefed the sanders campaign, and then it leaked that it came out the day before nevada. >> dagen: is it a cowinky dink? clearly the establishment does not want him never, ever going to hear them apologize for getting it wrong, literally for the last four years, because in their arrogance and insecurity, they will never be able to admit that

they are tools for putin and also tools. fools. one little tidbit, they gobble it up and regurgitated all over the airwaves, it's going to happen time and time again. >> jesse: the ratings are very soft even with these russian far >> dana: they told "the new york times," the president gets mad, and people get fired come up turns out they probably didn't say it in the first place at the national security pencil rebukes people's testimony. if they have evidence that russia is actually successfully hacking into voting systems and changing them or into voter rolls in different states, that would definitely be worth knowing. if the information is that russia is going to buy my facebook ads and going to try to do that other nonsense again, i think we should just look derisively at russia and

laughed. you are a country -- it's so pathetic. you have the worst economy. all you can do is cause mischief and chaos, so we are moving beyond you. we are so done with you. if there's evidence the contrary, we should be wary of it, at the meantime we should just laugh at them. >> jesse: you did say the mischief causing come up john ratcliffe, congressman, said adam schiff is the one who's been doing a lot of division. let's listen. >> i don't know anyone who has done more to help vladimir putin and russia with their efforts to sow the seed of discord in american elections, american election security, then adam schiff has. >> jesse: mr. >> greg: it's never a fact, it's an opinion based on someone speculating on either what trump

had back or what's in putin's head. trump is this, trump is that, but you never see the d's. once again, they are mind reading. they are mind-reading putin bit i can't even figure out what's in dana's head and i've been seeing her with eight years. >> jesse: i'll tell you, it's dogs. >> greg: you can't migrate your spouse. i can never forget what my wife is going to do and all these people in the press believe they can buy and read people they don't even know and they missed a call their motivations, they get every single motivation wrong from biden to trump and it's pointless to actually tell them about it because it's like having amnesia where you forget the pain you feel. that's the media! every time they touch a hot stove of russian collusion and interference and thinking that they know what's in people's heads, they put on their clown suit and get in there clown car and do the same thing all over again, even though we try to

help them. >> juan: wait a minute, let me get this straight. you got 17 intelligence agents. grade: 17 to many. >> juan: you have the speed and report to the bipartisan intelligence committee, the only russia interfered in 2016 but they continue to interfered and upped their effort for 2020. the idea we are divided and polarized question because pretty evident. >> jesse: when i saw that on facebook, the black and white photo of hillary clinton behind bars, i knew i was voting. harvey weinstein found guilty on two charges. plus jussie smollett back in court.

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>> juan: one of the most powerfn will go to prison, guilty of third degree will acquitted him ofthe most serioug a sexual predator, which would've carried a potential life sentence. weinstein faces up to 29 years in prison. before we get to the facts of this, i thought to myself, without road and ronan farrow, wehave this today? my point was nbc was sitting on this, on the ronan farrow stuff, yes? >> dagen: is, and then nbc tried to get did all the things, like have them follow pretty nasty things.

ronan farrow said he doesn't deserve any credit, "the new york times" reporters were there, but he also said the woman who came forward to tell the stories were quite courageous. they asked for a home detention for him because he had the back surgery that didn't go well? looks like it's not going to happen. he's going to have to go to rikers. he still faces indictments in california and even if he were to make a plea deal down on those, the jail time that he would do here come of that caliber you have would be in addition to. he's facing 5-29 years all these convictions. he was acquitted on the larger charges, which included the uncharged sexual abuse allegation. because i watched dana's show, these convictions are more likely to stand up under appeal because there are larger charges. he was acquitted -- i just want to point out one thing. i hope these reporters, everyone, keeps digging into the circle of people around harvey weinstein throughout hollywood,

throughout politics, who covered this up literally for decades. he was able to get away with it because people you that you and helped him basically destroy women's lives and help them continue to sexually assault women year after year after ye year. or they just looked away because he was benefiting their careers, he was benefiting their pocketbooks, that includes a lot of democrats. >> juan: this is all new to us because it just happened today, folks. >> dagen: 5- 29. >> juan: my thought was if he had been convicted of that predatory sex charge, he would've gotten life, now people are saying he's going to die in jail, and in some ways he might have gotten off light. >> jesse: he's still facing charges in los angeles. i do not think this is light. these prosecutors, we knocked prosecutors a lot, especially

from new york on their show. these prosecutors did a really nice job because the very highly paid, talented criminal defense team that weinstein hired. we knew he was dangling a lot of cash in front of the victims and trying to pay people often having people come as a credit to them. you know, the #metoo movement, a lot of problems there, fake allegations, nobody knows what's going on, but this is where things ought to be settled. due process, people testifying, you have evidence, they decide how long they should serve it. that's the most important thing here. >> juan: i think he's been convicted, greg. in a court of law, he's a rapi rapist. >> greg: it's a shame hillary didn't win, because she could've parted him. why was he so powerful? and used empowerment as a liberal virtue sick new

signal as a wayto protect his o. people joked about it, but because he helped the hollywood issues, he actually accused bernie sanders of being a sexist all "morning joe." michelle obama praised him because he gave so much money. no one in the hollywood could never lecture us again about morality because they knew all of this. he poked all the right buttons. >> juan: that's a powerful people do. they get away with a lot of nonsense. another big crime story we are following today, just east millett back in court , the actor pleading not guilty of a new set of charges being attacked by supporters in the alleged hate crime. i hate swishing these two go together. i know they are both anti-trump people. >> dana: what is under

indictment >> greg: what keeps it together is they both portray themselves as champions of the aggrieved. look at all the people falling apart. jussijustice mama i'm a victim. weinstein glommed on to these issues. they are all in the same universe of pretending to be for the common man or the common women so they can take advantage of the situation. >> juan: they need to make an example. you can't lie to the police. if you are famous, look out. look at martha stewart. she went to jail for five months for obstruction of justice and lying to the fbi. process crime it may be, but boom, where you go away you go. >> juan: we can talk some of those other people like mike flynn and roger stone... >> dana: he pled guilty, okay? there is that.

but with smollett, chicago mayor lori lightfoot was when who said that he needs to face the charges, needs to be held accountable. how nice this is for kim fox who was a state attorney there in cook county, she's been question. how could you let this happen? this special deal and nothing we have this big mess and it's convenient because she says, now that he's been charged, i can't comment because it's under indictment. >> juan: should have done differently or better but the election is in a few days, so we'll see how that works out. major fears over a coronavirus outbreak after new cases spike worldwide. worldwide! stay with "the five." we'll tell you the story. a "g"" (sports announcer) what an unlikely field in this final heat.

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>> dana: global outbreak of

the coronavirus causes major fears of pandemics, outbreaks in italy, south korea, and iran paid the dow created over 1,000 points due to concerns in the virus. the white house will request up to a billion dollars in emergency funds from congress to help fight the international outbreak for the president tweeting a few minutes ago that coronavirus is very much under control in america and that he's in contact with infected countries and there are a lot of them. dagen, when the global world of finance woke up and saw the additional cases especially in italy that they started to pan panic? >> juan: that's exactly what happened and a lot of complacency with investors that this is going to be contained it to asia, going to have some supply chain disruptions that might impact the u.s. economy. but once you saw that there is almost a dozen towns and cities in italy that are under quarantine that are essentially locked down, carnaval in venice

is being canceled. the risks are impossible to quantify at this point, it seems like the world health organization can't really get it under control. you have to assume that china is still lying about what is going on in that country. the yield on the 10-year treasury saw a lot of money piled into treasuries, interest rates fell to a low in the 10-year treasury so that gives us some ballast here. >> dana: what about china in all of this? they are still shut down and they are not being very transparent. nobody knows really what's going on. >> you can't figure out what's going on because you seed tapes on twitter but you find out that they aren't real. the stock market is like a living organism. it responds to the unknown and i think will happen is it'll be back to normal. the ultimate reality, you've got to restrict and ban travel.

you've got to spend more money for testing, which is what we are doing. the thing that you have to do is you have to wait for spring. i know that sounds stupid, but the thing that's going to end is the warmer weather. the only science he can get out of this if you don't have a vaccine. >> dana: a lot of things you can't control and the president said it look like a great trip, said we have it under control, there are a lot of things not in his control, jesse. >> jesse: going to get whacked for this if this keeps up and things go south, the democrats are going to say that the coronavirus is this president's katrina. >> dana: remember ebola under obama. >> jesse: they would politicize it, which republicans would never do. we would never act like that. a full travel ban immediately or the rallying cry of made in america and try to galvanize the country against the chinese threat and try to ride it out until november but who knows.

if the stock market tanks, there's a huge sell-off question but i lost $500 million today in the market. i do not know what's worse. >> dana: what happened to bloomberg... juan, did you see people concerning the travels you were on? >> juan: somebody asked me today if i saw a mask and i didn't see a mess. i think people still feel like we've got it under control in this country. i think president trump is wrong to say we have it under control and really wrong think he trusts the chinese, he's got a good relationship with president xi. i think that's crazy. to me, we should trust our public officials bear they did a good job in the past. i see that this president has cut away some of the offices that were in place. it's true. >> jesse: i predicted it. >> juan: is not politicizing, jesse. just saying that he did not see it as a threat and all the

travel ban, if it's in italy, if it's in other countries -- >> jesse: it's pelosi's budge budget. >> juan: he didn't just cut i it, he did it for cuts with the cdc. >> jesse: you did this a month ago, you are wrong then. >> dana: if you want to watch a great show called "pandemic," " people are working really hard, dedicate their lives to this. in america, i think we are in good shape. >> greg: 35 cases, that's it. >> juan: that's good in the united states. it's becoming global per that's why they are saying an epidemic to a pandemic. >> jesse: when greg wears a mask, i'll be nervous. >> dana: coming up,

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having a great trip overseas and forging a strong bond with india. the democratic party establishment and many in the mainstream media are freaking out after bernie sanders steamrolled his way through the nevada caucuses. msnbc's chris matthews is facing calls to resign after comparing bernie winning to this moment during world war ii. >> i'm reading last night about the fall of france in the foamer of 1940 and the general calls of churchill and says it's over. says, how can it be, you got the great's army in europe, how could it be over? he said, it's over. >> dagen: is that really the worst thing ever? >> i think he was trying to humble brag about what he was reading. they'll be covering and debate, this debate reminds me of 1964 and he goes on and on. there'll be a speech, this piece

reminds me of nixon in 1968. but because the reflex, it's so easy because they have been comparing republicans and conservatives to nazis for so long that it's in the front of his brain pan. thes! it's like god would log on crazy i enjoy watching it happen to liberals being compared to hitler. >> the democratic establishment doesn't know what to do with bernie sanders. apoplectic reaction, like what you're seeing with chris matthews, the tip o'neill establishment that can democrats. burning is much closer to, let's say, fdr, big government, politics, then kennedy, then clinton, then obama. i think that's why it's a shift.

i think back to when trump was doing this in 2016 and you saw people on the right, the leading clinical abundance had to shift and i think you're seeing now chris matthews of all people have to readjust a real line realign. >> they would've seen it if they went to busy as that shame police, gripping at every grimace and worried. >> dana: nobody -- it seems on the left, nobody has understood the loss of 2016. didn't go to wisconsin, didn't reach out to the blue-collar workers, didn't do all these things. then they spent a lot of times on russia, mueller, all of these things. what they have now is bloomberg coming in thinking biden won't be able to do it and he spends $400 million on positive ads for himself. the democrats are mad.

they all piled on but what if he starts using some of that money to go negative on bernie sanders? i think that has the risk of making bernie sanders even stronger for the democrats because as we just talked about in the a block, these attacks seem to make him stronger with his base. they have a problem, but it's when they painted themselves into, they painted themselves into a corner, and they gave bernie a lot of what he has four in 2016 in terms of changes to the rules and now they are having to live with it. >> jesse: juan says matthews has to shift. that's like saying you are going to have to shift. are you all of a sudden going to defend bernie because he gets the nomination and starts talking about how great socialism is -- you are not. you are going to be an honest reporter, matthews is going to be honest about it, says i think we are heading to a landside loss with this old socialist. that's what everybody has to say, juan. the difference between trump and

bernie, one of the main differences is trump could win democrats. bernie is not going to win republicans. there is no middle ground bernie is going to win. trump was picking up union guys and independents. it's a bigger american first mission. bernie is an american last, that's not a unifying message. you have a core 30%-40% of the country that might vote for bernie here they might not even vote for him at all, they might set out. not a guy who's going to help the ticket on a senate seat or down ballot on a congressional seat. even people like chris matthews who put their rose-colored glasses on, what they been doing with trump the last three and a half years can see a mile away that this is going to be a train wreck and there is no way to spin in and that's why it's so cataclysmic. >> juan: i think chris matthews is going to have to readjust because i think msnbc is going to have to readjust. they cannot be neutral.

they cannot be indifferent, especially when you see the power. >> jesse: people on one show saying this and another for saying that. >> juan: look at what happened in the bodiford organized labor came to support bernie sanders. >> jesse: the people who supported medicare for all didn't know that they would take away your private health care. >> juan: i'm just telling you, this is populace energy much like what we see with trump. >> dana: one more thing, i've got a best one. >> dagen: in the meantime, mcgovern, '72! >> dana: one more thing is up next. really? you know, in italy, they let you park anywhere. have a good day, sir.

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anyway, sometimes you have to shake your thing if you want to get your bling. check out this little fella, little french bulldog trying to get in. let me in, i will do whatever you please. what a little flair to this french bulldog is, of course he's french. only the french can move like that. those dogs are adorable, but i hear they have gas. if he dances like that, i'm all for it. >> a feeding frenzy. well done greg. i haven't been excited for a feeding frenzy like this one in a long time. we have fried chicken and doughnuts from kfc, this is a

limited time only offering. you can either get the sandwich right here with the doughnut or you can get a basket chicken with the doughnut on the side, or you can just get the doughnut by itself. only available until march 16th. greg, let's do it. >> i'm on keto diet. >> it's everything you imagined it would be. it's fantastic. >> if ie that i have to exercise for four hours. >> the smell is awesome, it's delicious. >> last week was win or break for d.c. public schools, my grandkids went off to universal studios and disney world in florida. here we are at the national airport, keeping up with the family tradition by dressing up in matching sweat suits the big trip. of course, when you go to an amusement park there is lots of walking and that means piggyback

rides for the kids. the highlight for the girls, they got to dress up as princesses at magic kingdom. the highlight for my grandson was his visit to the wizard world of harry potter, everybody got a kick out of visiting the "star wars" exhibit at disney world. my favorite highlight was my wife and i getting a picture with my fellow doughnut lover homer simpson and his wife marge. thanks homer, you are so kind to your visitors. >> they're lucky i decided not to do the family photos from the weekend, because angie you got up to something that is for sure. as an ole miss fan, had her chance to win a brand-new car. she needed a new car during saturday night's game, all she had to do was think the perfect pot. watch. >> that's looking good, that's looking really good.

>> that is 86-year-old marianne wakefield, she won a 2020 nissan altima after making the 94 pu94-foot shot across the co. kyle thompson joked that he would still be on to her if marianne were putting for him. good job marianne. >> this happened over the weekend. that is my new family member dale. i met him in the green room at fox & friends actually, then went out to north shore animal and rescued him. he is chihuahua and jack russell mix, he is in fuego. still looks like his uncle tito. >> he is very cute, you are very

sweet person to rescue a dog. on other dog. >> set your dvrs, never miss an episode of the five. "special report" is up next. >>good evening, i am shannon brm and for bret baier. fears of the coronavirus are appearing in various points around the globe tonight, sparking lockdowns, closings, and if new travel restrictions in europe, the middle east, and asia. here is our specialist tonight in northern italy. global market sellouts because of the virus made their way to the wall street today where the market took major hits. the dow dropped more than 1,000 points, making it the largest one-day point and percentage decline since february 8th 2018. the s&p 500 lost 112, both are now negative for 2020.