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6:00 p.m. that will be in bret's our, special report. >> ed: meanwhile, "outnumbered" starts right about now. >> sandra: thanks for joining us. sso beyond we begin with eight fox news alert, president trump announced he will hold a news conference on the coronavirus lr today from the white house. as the fight over battling the infection has intensified on capitol hill now. top senate democrats chuck schumer requesting more than $8 billion to fight the coronavirus, far more than the top administration's initial $2.5 billion requested just a couple days ago. >> nancy pelosi went after the administration's response so far. watch. >> it's shameful. it puts forth a proposal now that is meager, anemic, in terms of addressing -- with ebola we did $5 billion. now they are trying to take the ebola money and spend it here. what he's doing is late, too
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late, anemic. hopefully we can make up for the loss of time. >> harris: meanwhile, house minority leader -- or, house minority whip steve scalise, is defending the president. >> i think president trump's administration has handled this incredibly well. his health agencies -- and i've met with his top health experts on coronavirus -- they've offered to go and help in china. they've tried to get information from china on what's really happening there. frankly, i think it's incredibly disappointing that china won't share that information. >> harris: let's get started. this is to is "outnumbered," i'm a nurse told me. here today, melissa francis. martha maccallum, host of "the story," is here. an author of the book "unknown relic: the story of family and sacrifice, from pearl harbor to iwo jima." we will get is that a little bit later. welcome. fox business network anchor, dagen mcdowell. and in the center seat, former communications director for's former senator harry reid,
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jon summers is here. we say he's "outnumbered." quite a night last night. first i want to get to our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel come alive on the hill. my? >> harris, thank you. chuck schumer is preparing at $8.5 billion request for the coronavirus outbreak. that is significant and more than the trump administration had requested. it is expected to include $1.5 billion for the centers for disease control. $3 billion for the fund, hospital preparedness. to me adults for state and local reimbursement, $1 billion, and $1 billion for vaccine development. today the health and human services secretary talked about what the trump administration wants. >> on monday, the request to make at least $2.5 billion in funding available for preparedness and response, including for therapeutics, vaccines, personal protective equipment, state and local public health support, and surveillance. i look forward to working
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closely with congress on that request. >> in that hearing, a key republican noted the administration can come back for more funding. >> you are doing the right thing. you've use the resources we are giving you, you come back for supplemental. i have no doubt you will come back again if you feel like you need additional support. i have no doubt, frankly, that congress will be forthcoming. >> but a leading house democrat says it's time for the trump administration to get serious about this coronavirus outbreak. >> this is not the way we approach a pandemic. you need to make plans, you need to have coordination in place, and you have to fund agencies over a period of years so we are ready to address this crisis. >> uncertainty about how coronavirus is going to spread is adding to the tension here on capitol hill as lawmakers try to get answers for their constituents. harris? >> harris: mike emanuel,
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thank you very much. we might not have guessed this would have gone politically so quickly, martha, but it has. we saw senator shelby yesterday, of alabama, republican, saying it should be -- the amount of money, whatever it takes. that sort of thing. there is some divide but some part of it done on that. >> martha: it something done that kind of gross how it instantly becomes a political. you can predict which corner people file into as any crisis or any event comes. americans look at that and find it very disheartening. wouldn't it be great if lab lesn on the debate stage they looked and said, "this is not the time to snipe at each other." what support of the present needs in this, let's get behind each other, and let's make sure we handle the impact on this as well as we can pay the other point i would make is it's interesting to me that on the democrat side the answer is always more money. we haven't even looked at exactly what the plan is for that $2.5 billion, but
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$8 billion sounds better and $8 billion would be hitting it harder. let's look at with the smartest way to tackle it is. >> harris: it's interesting to me, the grab for whatever it looks like is the obvious thing. and you can always pick which side is going to go first. chuck schumer was critical of the $1 billion. not enough. critical of the $2.5 billion. not enough. "oh come but if we give it to you, nancy pelosi come we don't know where it will go. you're taking money from here, being greedy about it here, we don't know if it will go and fight coronavirus. and by the way, it's a $.5 billion." but we don't know what you do with the money, but we want mo more. this cannot be politicized. >> jon: i agree with that. i think martha rees is a very good point. it doesn't look it for my side, for democrats. we are always coming back saying, "more money, more money." it would be nice to know where people are getting their basis in asking for more money. maybe a little less money. we can get to that in just a second. i can't say when you look back at the swine flu epidemic that
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we spent about $7 billion they . you can see where schumer maybe coming in with some hard data. we just don't know where the president is coming in. i think pelosi is right in raising questions about where the money would go, because the president has shown us he doesn't always necessarily respect the preparations process. >> melissa: that would be an argument for doing his lower number. if you don't know it's going to happen to what you say, "hey, i will give you a little bit at a time and let's see how you use that, then you can come back if you need more." it does go to that thing where you just now that whatever happens the other side is going to criticize. if the president had been more panicked or looked like -- they say he's not responding. they would have said he was trying to suppress the primary vote and scare people to not go to the polls in the democratic primary. i think it could have come to that. it does make people at home just very frustrated. >> dagen: the issue of the ebola funding, it was $5.4 billion during the ebola panic of 2014. there's half a billion dollars
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left over from that that is sitting there, that the democrats are up in arms about the trump administration wanting to move that money for an urgenh need, and they wouldn't do it. but now, again, it's political football. i will tell you why president trump is coming out tonight at 6:00 and doing this himself. because the acting head of that apartment of homeland security yesterday, chad wolf, grilled by senator kennedy and embarrassed. were he didn't even know the mortality rate of the flu in the united states. he said, "oh, it's about 2%." in essence he said it was the same as the coronavirus. the mortality rate of the flu in the united states, which is a known entity, a known virus, is 0.1%. and that was one of the problems. if you are messaging on behalf of the president and the american people, you better get it straight and have your details in order. he did not. >> jon: can i just add one
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thing? we talk about funding and about maybe there were places we make cuts. it does make sense to call into question the president's number when you look at the fact that he is considering, or is actually taking, $37 million out of light heat, which is relied upon by 700,000 families to heat their homes, to direct with this process. before we start getting to that, let's get the money in place where we need it. and if we need to make additional cuts to struggling families -- >> harris: there are no stuart don't actually does a people on capitol hill who want to move the shells around in the shell game of our money. the first job of government is to protect us. i'm looking at the list, they came out a couple year hours agm the world health organization. it's the new member states in the last 24 hours. we can add afghanistan, bahrain, iraq, and oman to the list of countries which report cases of coronavirus in the last 24 hou 24 hours. that list continues to grow. you've got hundreds of cases with a high number of deaths in
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both china and japan, we know that. but, i mean, the list is big. martha, it comes kind of back to this whole issue of, do we make a big deal out of it were not? this is a health situation. let's not make it about anything else. >> martha: that's one of the things that i think is that of the president tonight. that is something that falls upon that office, to sort of strike that right tone of being cautious, making sure we're doing everything we can. we have the most advanced health system in the world. there is no reason we should be able to handle this responsibly and it well. but you also have to make people aware that there is a concern. that there is spreading to these countries preyed on the other hand, when you look at what's happening in china, the cures are rising and the new cases are falling. when you go back to the ground zero of this virus, there is some encouraging news. he's got to strike a balance where he gives people a sense of calm. not freaking out. at the same time, being very aggressive and how he handles it and making sure we are doing everything we can. >> harris: i was just going to say real quickly, i hope we can trust those numbers now coming
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out of china and the wuhan province and some of those areas that were early reporters. we haven't been able to fully -- >> martha: their wall street analysts on the ground, research analysts doing the best job they can in interpreting those numbers. absolutely, always a question mark. >> melissa: we nile, markets on edge. sucks come in today after the dow suffered its biggest 2-day point loss in history. amid questions on the impact the virus could have on the global economy. president trump shrugging it off, tweeting this morning, "low ratings, fake news. they are doing everything possible to make the coronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets, if possible. likewise, their incompetent do-nothing democrat comrades are all talk, no action. usa in great shape. >> melissa: one of the things i would say as you talk
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to, and even last night when i was talking to people that are actually out there trading and trading for big accounts, they were saying, "look, let's be honest, we have had a run up. we were looking for an opportunity to take some money off the table. we were due for a correction in this gave the market the excuse. we saw stocks higher earlier this morning. now we are paring back some of those gains. maybe it's on the stuff that harris was talking about. what are you hearing, as well, from people in the market? >> dagen: that the stock market was expensive and ready for a pullback. not just the stock market but a whole host of asset classes. junk bonds, for example. very lofty. but china, just china, and i with this virus spreading, is critically important to the global economy much more so than it was during the sars outbreak. 15% of global gdp versus 4% in 2003, one-third of global trade. that is ten times what it was during the sars outbreak. even with manufacturing, they've
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moved out of china and some -- >> melissa: that's the next when i was going to make. >> dagen: the >> dagen: the chamber of commerce in vietnam said more than half of manufacturers they are struggling for supplies. the uaw warning that production of general motors vehicles here would be hurt because of a lack of parts coming out of china. the good news is, for the united states, we have interest rates dropping even further, hitting record lows. that helps americans lower energy prices. we still have ful on employments. we have enough resources to whether this prayer with a virus like this, it's self first, ask questions later. >> melissa: it fits perfectly into the president's argument about bringing things home here to america and being more independent ourselves. we look at what's happening with energy independence and the fact that we've had all the fracking, et cetera. so much freedom of movement from the middle east. this fits into this argument that we cannot be to all the
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asian nations for manufacturing, for labor, for all those kinds of things. >> jon: i think that's a very good point. it also helps make the argument for a clean energy economy, as well. it's also creating local jobs and that sort of thing. i want to go back to a point you made earlier and with the president said, which is that it's the president's job to keep us all safe. for all of them in washington, it's their job first and foremost to keep us safe. >> harris: that's government's job. >> jon: that's right. with that comes a responsibility of being credible. i think when the president does things, goes out on twitter and makes fun of him -- >> melissa: nancy pelosi says he hasn't done anything, and can they make up for the last time? when he put the committee together. >> jon: i completely agree, but nancy pelosi isn't the president. >> melissa: is it okay for her to lie? >> jon: i'm not saying that. i'm saying it's time for the president, an opportunity for him to come out and look presidential. >> harris: when will he get credit for the things he does connect us with regard to coronavirus. i want to point out that when he stopped the flights to china, or
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at least got the motion on that, and airlines follow that call, it then turned out to be, "yeah, maybe that's not a bad idea," that back and forth, "let's make educated decisions about where we travel to that part of the world." he took a leave of criticism. the headwind was january's formation, as you were talking about, the task force. >> jon: this is nothing to go talk about in a credible way. i'm just saying this is his opportunity to come out and act presidential and talk to the american people. >> dagen: his job is to not scare the you know what out of the american people until it's necessary. a public health emergency declared by alex lazar at the end of january, and they been working on this quietly because they didn't want to create a panic in the united states. >> jon: right, make sure we are informed but, our fears. >> martha: you have to find that balance where people feel they are not in a panic but that they have a confidence level that the president is overseeing a process that is the best we can absolutely do. this is a virus.
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it's not something that is 100% manageable. so you have to do the absolute best job you can do. i think that's what he will try to establish tonight. i think the democratic criticism is unfair and it feels tactical. it feels a little cheap at this point. we'll see where it goes. >> melissa: meantime, could you hear what they were saying? i don't know. [laughter] a chaotic and contentious night for democrats at the 2020 contenders talking and often shouting over each other, as they tried to get in the last word. we never do that here. [laughter] whether anyone emerged a clear winner and whether the democrats did themselves any favors. >> are not out of time, he spoke over time and i'm going to talk. >> if you could honor the rules of the debate, thank you. >> can i finish? >> i know how you cut me off all the time, but i'm not going to be quite anymore. >> tom, i think she was talking about my plan, not yours. ♪ team at newday usa
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>> it doesn't take two hours to do the math. >> let's talk about math. >> what i said is what barack obama said, in terms of cuba. that cuba made progress on education. yes, i think -- [boos] really? really? >> not true. let me say something. there is something going on here. i have worked for racial justice completely, and that is an absolute unfair statement. >> all i know -- >> if we spend the next four months tearing our party apart, we are going to watch donald trump spend the next four years tearing our country apart. >> harris: it was a scream fest!
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a chaotic free-for-all for democrats as the candidates yelled at and over each other. the high-stakes debate in south carolina, the last before the state's primary, which happens on saturday. and super tuesday, three days later, when 14 states are in play. with the looming possibility that a surging bernie sanders could all but locked up the nomination next week, his rivals let him have it. >> vladimir putin thinks donald trump should be president of united states, and that's why russia is helping you get elected so you will lose to him. >> when asked if we had a problem with the socialists leading the ticket, i raised my hand. >> senator sanders at one point said it would be $4 trillion, than it was $30 trillion, than it was $17 trillion. it's incredible drinking price tag. at some point he said it's unknowable to even see what the price tag would be. >> this conversation shows a huge risk for the democratic party. >> i have condemned authoritarianism, people in saudi arabia note that the
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united states government -- >> about nicaragua? >> authoritarianism of any stripe is bad, period. >> harris: actually, it's a good thing to take a look the day after. because i missed a lot, in all the screaming and shouting, martha. to that help anybody in the democratic party? >> martha: no, absolutely not. i talked to my dad on the wheel must sign he was like, "what was that?" it's embarrassing. [laughter] i've been covering presidential elections for a very long time now, and when you look at this, usually democrats stick together, jon. usually there is sort of a distant person ready for that role. i think bill clinton was sort of someone who came up through the ranks and was a fresh face that took the party over. this is unusual, i think. it creates a kind of damage we saw in the republican primary, where you have bernie sanders, who is sort of this bull in a china shop, as president trump was. totally different people, totally different candidates, but playing an interesting same
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role. as a concern you that there is so much division? >> i think everyone recognizes how high the stakes are and they are all still trying to figure out how best to optimize their strategy, particularly as they go into super tuesday. i think they are concerned about bernie sanders. i mean, i'm going to support whoever the democratic nominee is because i don't believe we can deal with four more years of trump, but i will say, and i've set it to you, harris -- we already have one angry old man in the white house and i don't think americans are clamoring for another one. >> harris: that's a shot at bernie sanders. did anything happen last night that maybe preempted him from owning, again, for another week, the front runner status? >> jon: he had an opportunity where he could come out and more clearly explain his positions. particularly how he's going to pay for things. i think he needs to work on his demeanor, too. >> dagen: we said that about trump! >> martha: another trump parallel! not going to happen. >> melissa: it helped bernie sanders. they were all over each other,
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he didn't have to answer. if they had shut up and forced him to really answer, you would have seen more of the hole -- so he got away with stuff. i think only capable host should be able to do this. because only cable is wild like that. those moderators come from shows -- i'm not going to quite say that, but i think they come from more civilized shows where that all-out chaos doesn't -- >> harris: in all fairness, i don't think that there would have been a way to guess that. can we take a look at -- >> melissa: you would have gotten those people back in order, harris. >> harris: bernie sanders was the most attacked. he took on 33 attacks. he did attack others 19 times, so he actually leads in both categories. so he had an opportunity to talk all night. he may not have been able to tell us what anything cost. second place where at times attacked, mike bloomberg. we kind of guess that because he had to really prove himself coming in. and he was starting to eat into some of the numbers of
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joe biden, particularly among minority voters. >> jon: that cuts into his spending, too. >> harris: but pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar were the top behind bernie sanders in terms of attacking other people. dagen, when i look at that, and he listened to what was going on, i don't know if those moderators could necessarily have contained the attacking what was going on. but i would have given it a good try. >> dagen: i've done panel shows my entire television career, 20 years. all you had to do was start by saying, "all right, you are not going to raise your hands. you are supposed to look presidential, not pre-k. put your hands down." at a bare minimum, you start with that. number two, the best attacks are going to happen with mike bloomberg and all of that money he is spending, because even before that debate last night, he is starting to go after bernie sanders and all the other moderates who are still hanging in the running. it adds about his positions on guns, digital ad on past support
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by the nra. bernie sanders has actually moved left on guns and immigration. and other social policies. that's where the damage will happen. >> harris: bloomberg is running ads during the debate, i don't know if you caught those. martha, i want to get back to this point, though, kind of corralling the kids throwing their toys out of the crib. because that's what they were doing, right? [laughs] do you let some of that play out? i don't know, there had to have been some strategy last night. at one point there was so much cacophony i literally couldn't even understand which person was talking. >> martha: i think dagen has a good point. if someone had said to them, "no andrewhand-reason, we know the s of the debate," people understand the rules of the debate going in. and they clearly ran off the rails. i'm not sure -- thank you for give me credit, but i'm not sure they would have been able to get these folks under control. >> harris: it's tough. >> martha: very tough. clearly all their campaigns have said, "this might be your last chance. make sure to get those points in
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there, run right over the bell when it goes off. keep doing more aggressive stance." they all felt it was their last affair. >> harris: somebody one last night, and that somebody, collective, was her republicans. we have time to run the sound bite from republican member tim scott i was watching? let's watch. >> i thought it was a whole mess. no one on that stage is presidential. frankly, the winner of the debate last night was president donald trump. >> harris: senator scott, one of the smoothest communicators on the program, called it a hot mess. is your party in trouble? you only have like five seconds. >> jon: i don't think the party is in trouble. it was a hot mess but martha's point is right, they all had to get out their points. frankly, pete buttigieg once again showed that he's got the chops to get out there and actually make a point in a very succinct way and in a way that doesn't necessarily require a whole of attacking, either. >> dagen: he was talking when everybody else was talking! nobody could hear what he was saying! >> harris: they called it the
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soundtrack. he was playing in the background. >> martha: we have a town hall within club shark, shall to not have people on either side of her screaming. i do have an opportunity to talk about some of these issues. >> melissa: i would have said, "stop, no one can hear of everyone's talking." b1 nobody cared. next time i'm popping the corn and we can do it at my house. coronavirus gripping the west coast in terms of concern about it. one major city is declaring a state of emergency. is that premature, or should we all prepare for a worst-case scenario at this point? coming up on "outnumbered overtime," i will talk with our own dr. marc siegel about coronavirus. he is at the special university of the grass a bio containment facility where americans with the virus are being quarantined. he'll be right outside that center. we will be live together atop the next hour. ♪ as a struggling actor,
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mayor declaring a city wide state of emergency yesterday amid rising coronavirus fears. now city officials can assemble resources and prepare for a rapid response in the event of an outbreak. no cases have yet been confirmed in san francisco, but the mayor says it's worth taking every precaution. >> to be clear, this declaration of emergency is all about preparedness. it's all about preparedness. while we have no active cases in san francisco at this time, we are focusing our efforts on protecting the people who live and work here, and we want to be ready for what we anticipate may come our way. >> dagen: this comes after california's santa clara county approved its own emergency declaration two weeks ago. martha, too soon, too late? the world health organization identified this virus in early january. why now, i guess is the point.
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>> martha: the way the mayor put it is interesting and probably correct. if i was running a city i would want us to be in the best also to be as aggressive as we could possibly be an if declaring that state of emergency is the hurdle to go through to put all of those pieces in place, as a preventative, i think it's a wise move. they need to make clear when they say that but nobody has it, but we want to be ready. as a citizen they would make me feel better. >> melissa: what always happens with these things, everybody sort of panics almost where he thinks, "we are all talking about it." and then you notice that no one around you has it. so i wonder if we kind of get ahead of it in a preparedness point of view by saying, "all right, everybody, how it would." at my husbands office they were saying, "bring home your laptop every day, we don't know what's going happen, you may have to stay home." we are on high alert but it doesn't come near you and you are relaxed. but it's good because you are prepared. maybe we are getting the panic out of the way. >> dagen: at the grocery store
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shelves. >> martha: people clear of the grocery store. >> harris: it's so true. they want us to shelter in place, what do i shoulder with quebec i've got tuna cans and bottles of water. something occurred to me, the number of homeless in san francisco. when you look at a city, and you see this throughout cities in california, that have burst with that particular problem, you've got a population that is on the streets that is struggling with health issues anyway because they are not indoors and they are not able to get the health care they need. and then you have something bursting like this on the scene, potentially. i'm hoping that they are concentrating on those among us who cannot fight for ourselves on the streets in san francisco and california. we know it's become a political issue for some of the leaders in california. but if they are going to use coronavirus to get to that, i'm actually okay with that. just get to it. deal with that issue. it's vulnerability among us that we really shouldn't tolerate.
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>> dagen: jon, to harris' point, there's that healthy safety problem in san francisco in plain sight. it's not just almost, parts of the city are essentially an open sewer. it's been that way literally for decades. it's gotten worse. they've done nothing, but out the state of emergency. that's the paradox people can't get their heads around. >> melissa: it's a good thing if it helps. >> jon: i think she's doing the right thing calling the state of emergency. that's the thing you have to do. it's a logistical step you have to take to free up certain resources. it would be nice if it was actually called something other than "state of emergency." >> harris: like common sense? is to be? >> jon: [laughs] leasing state and local leaders do this in preparation for advancing storms. it's the same thing, i think in san francisco it's particularly important for the homeless. also that it's a major point doughnut port city. thousands of people -- i wish i had the number -- who are going in and out of that city.
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>> melissa: you are saying the storm is already there and they've ignored that one? >> dagen: this emergency is paramount. it could be his last stand. the big endorsement for joe biden three days out from the south carolina primary, as the former vp valves to win >> the people know me. my entire career has been wrapped up in dealing with civil rights and civil liberties. i intend to win south carolina, and i will win the african-american vote here in south carolina. >> if you don't win south carolina, will you continue? >> i will win south carolina. [applause] ♪
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competitors in south carolina, billionaire tom steyer, who has spent heavily in the state. >> look, the fact is -- i'm not out of time, he spoke over time and i'm going to talk. here's the deal. >> i have worked tirelessly on this and you know i'm right brady wrote the crime bill -- >> where i come from that's called tommy come lately. >> melissa: meanwhile joe biden seeing a money boost. "shattered over grew from two days ago. today is our best online fund-raising day since launch, in the last seven days have been our best since launch. the comeback has started and it's real." meantime, real clear politics ever chosen with the lead over bernie sanders in south carolina. steyer is in a distant third. jon, when he said with conviction, "i'm going to win south carolina," it's a good moment because he looked confident. ari was confident as he is? >> jon: i love joe biden, i want him to do well, he has to
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do well. because of his strength and has confidence in that answer, if he doesn't come in first, i think that's a real problem for him. it was a problem for them before, but if he doesn't come in for us now... >> melissa: is he going to do it? are you willing to bet one way or the other? >> jon: hmm... i bet he probably does. >> melissa: you are laughing. >> dagen: i was just sitting here thinking of what i would bet. [laughter] i think is most effective moment is where he challenged bernie sanders on his vote against the brady bill, and his past support for gun ownership, in a way. but that was his most effective moment because it's something that is very near and dear to him, particularly being in charlston. it's also a way for him to go after bernie sanders. every time he says, "here's the deal," i can only think of him saying, "look, fat, here's the deal." [laughter] i know i sound more like ross perot than joe biden, but
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if people watched jim clyburn this morning, very, very emotional testimonial for him. that will only help in south carolina and maybe elsewhere. >> martha: i think that wealth and the lot, the endorsement from clyburn. i thought it was heartfelt, and authentic moment. which a lot of people connect with. you have all this clashing across twitter and social media, but there's nothing like a real person speaking to voters and saying, "i stand by this man, i believe in him." if he doesn't win, he has to win. he has to come in first. he has to do it by a sizable margin pay the pattern we've seen in iowa, new hampshire, now south carolina, is a huge lead, a double-digit lead, that joe biden enjoyed, gets slimmer and slimmer while other people start gaining ground. he loses ground to bernie sanders in this case. if he doesn't really have a solid first-place finish, i guess there will be some real soul-searching conversations in that campaign. >> harris: you know, what i'm curious about, when you look at the demographic break out of the states coming up on super tuesday -- california in particular -- which ones kind of
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mad south carolina more than the previous contests of new hampshire and nevada and iowa? i think this is more like those coming up. it does potentially give joe biden a little bit more route to the nomination. because i can't imagine bernie sanders is going to lose a whole lot of those types of -- >> jon: when you look at polling, joe biden is doing well in north carolina. he's tied with sanders in texas. we have to remember that none of the states are winner-take-all. we talked about california and the 400 or so delegates they have. but it doesn't mean that if you win you get all of those delegates. it's complicated breakdown. >> harris: you are doing well, first or second. >> jon: you need at least 15%. you've got to meet that threshold to get some delegates. we will see. that's an important thing to remember. that's one of the things, as people talk about bernie, let's remember, we only have half a percent of the delegates that have been allocated. >> melissa: but it's the
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momentum. >> jon: absolutely, momentum. >> melissa: i would ask you, do you think biden can get the momentum back? he had so much. not in terms of numbers, can he get that back? >> jon: i think with a strong performance on super tuesday he could get it back. any of those leaders could. we could see it with buttigieg, as well. and biden. >> dagen: hated say half of americans had died because of gun violence. >> harris: 150 million people since 2007. the campaign cleaned it up with "the washington times" moments later. >> jon: is about 30,000 a year. >> harris: they said he meant 150,003 but they had to get that out there quickly. >> melissa: this month marks 75 years since the battle of iwo jima during world war ii. our own martha maccallum has a new book centered on her family's connection to the battle with the stories of those who made the ultimate sacrifice for america. ♪
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would become a grueling 36-day-long struggle. more than 100,000 u.s. forces fought in that battle. 7,000 american troops died, many of whom were only in their late teenage years were early 20s. one of those soldiers we lost was harry gray, the uncle of fox news' own martha maccallum. she pays tribute to him and all those who sacrificed their lives in her new book, "unknown trailer: a story of family, courage, and sacrifice from pearl harbor to iwo jima." of course she's with us on the couch today. congratulations on taking the journey and being so brave to sit with all these people. i watched some video from your special area and i cried, you held it together. >> martha: it was such a gift to me. i look at that picture of harry, i've seen that photograph growing up. my mother shared the letters he wrote with all of us. he wrote beautiful letters as a 17 and 18-year-old from parris
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island, from guam, and ultimately from iwo jima. he was killed there when he was just 18 years old, about six months after he took his girlfriend to the senior prom and found himself in the middlee pacific. but he was so brave, and all these young men were so brave. through this journey, rifling through marine documents that were stacked this high all over my desk in my home office, i found george coburn, who had written a letter to my grandfather that i had read as a kid saying, "this is such a hard letter for me to write, but harry was one of my dearest friends. this is what happened the day he died, i was with him, we were all marching in a column of 19 when the japanese mortars went off." i couldn't find george for the longest time in the process of writing the book. i was almost asleep one night, i woke up and said, "i have to listen to this one more time." i have found a form you filled out that said he was looking for his own military records and he had moved from new england to florida. i realized it was a new address. the first thing i did, which is what you doing this research, i looked to see if there was an obituary for him in florida, and
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there was not. and i said, "he's alive." by the next morning i was on the phone with him. "this is martha maccallum, i'm harry gray's niece." he went silent and he said, "i think about harry gray all the time." >> dagen: wow. the five it's been a really incredible journey. it's not just about harry, it's about these young men across the country who do this. and your family, probably, there is somebody who fought in these wars. you are to yourself telling where you can about him, and to teach your kids about him. because every family has some story like this. i urge everybody to do some digging and find out. >> melissa: i love that you say that. that's what i find integration about this book. it is such a big thing right now, to go and research her family and find the stories within your family, however you do it. it's something we started doing recently in my family. like you said, i've found service members in my family who have died, in various situations. it really is inspirational to read someone else's and see their journey, and then you go
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out and build on your own. i just think that is what is so wonderful. one of the many things so wonderful about this book. >> harris: you know, you and i had a conversation because you were working, we were on a business trip one time and sitting next to each other on a plane. i was watching you write this. you said something that really moved me. you said, "well, i had to write it." why? >> martha: it was a story that tugged at me for a long time. i never really intended to write a book. then i started thinking about it, and the more digging i started doing, i thought, "these men deserve for the story to be told." a man who was 101 years old, i found and through the help of a researcher in pennsylvania. he said, "i know this man, he's a hundred years old and he was injured on the same day that her uncle was." b1 oh wow. >> martha: at first charlie didn't think he remembered harry. i kept referring to him as harry. i showed him a picture and he said, "oh, that's great. that's my buddy, great. we were in the foxhole together."
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at first i was worried that maybe he was a member and somebody else, but the letters i had, it all lined up. and george said to me, "yeah, we called him pop." which is what charlie said harry called him. because he was 24. that he was an old guy at 24. [laughter] it's an honor to meet these men. >> dagen: the reason i'm crying, one, i'm a marshmallow. but my uncle lied about his age to join the navy. and serve in the pacific. it shaves not just the man's experience, but the family's. >> harris: i'm going to scoot in with this. you can watch more about the story on fox nation. you get a free copy of martha's book with any yearly plan. check it out. we'll be right back. i have huge money saving news for veterans. mortgage rates just dropped to near 50-year lows. one call to newday usa can save you $2,000 every year.
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down the latest headlines of the day. 5:00 p.m. eastern on fb end. thanks to our old couch. jon, thank you. martha, thank you for coming on and sharing your story. we are back here at noon eastern tomorrow. here's harris. >> harris: we have a very busy hour for you. president trump set to hold a news conference at 6:00 p.m. eastern as coronavirus fears are gripping the nation. the health and human services secretary also testifying before congress. that's happening right now. "outnumbered overtime" now, and harris faulkner. the number of confirmed coronavirus cases has now surpassed 81,000 across 39 countries. this, as the dow jones is looking to rebound today after two straight days of heavy losses. look at it now, still in the green and has been all morning. meanwhile, senate minority leader chuck schumer will request $8.5 billion in emergency funding to help fight the coronavirus, significantly
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