♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." last night a posthumous democratic debate was the last gathering of the candidates before voters in 21 states go to the polls. so it tells you quite a lot that many party leaders today are panicking over what they saw on that stage. we will tell you what happened and we will tell you what it means. but first. this is a fox news alert. the coronavirus is continuing to spread worldwide in a deadly outbreak in the united states, appears to be inevitable. that's the word from the cdc. officials there have confirmed a case in california with an unknown origin, possibly indicating a local spread.

we are not quite sure because testing in this country is so minimal. new york's nassau county meanwhile, 83 people are being monitored for possibly carrying the disease. if governor andrew cuomo has freed up 43 million in emergency funds for that. a few moments ago, the president held a news conference about the coronavirus. he said the situation in this country is under control. speak of the is coming along well and in speaking to the doctors, we think this is something that we can develop fairly rapidly vaccine. the united states is now -- we are rated number one. we are rated number one for being prepared. this is a list of different countries -- i don't want to get in your way. we are not going to loosen the travel restrictions, that's what saved us. had i not been -- mike alluded to it, had i not made my decision very early on not to take people from a certain area we wouldn't be talking this way, we be talked about many more people would have been infected. i took a lot of heat. some people call me racist because i made a decision so early. and we had never done that as a country before, let alone early.

so it was a bold decision, it turned out to be a good decision. >> tucker: during that news conference, the president announced to his putting his vice president, mike pence, in charge of this potential crisis. so the headline tonight is the coronavirus is coming in some small way at the very least, it's already here. what does it mean for us in the united states? fox news medical contributor mark. dr. marc siegel is in omaha, he's been in there for a couple days, more than a dozen cases were sent to omaha for quarantine and monitoring. doctor, thanks so much for coming on from omaha. >> hi, tucker. >> tucker: how do you assess what the president said and put this news, if you would, from california, into context for us. >> i think we are concerned now about entering another phase of community spread here in the united states, as you said. we have some concern about it but i also -- it's a growing war in the country, but i also want to offer it some comfort tonight because i'm standing outside the global center for health

security at the university of nebraska medical center. we've been here for two days, as you said, and the doctors here, the nurses here, even the patient's here are playing the role of investigating this virus. we found out it's more contagious than the flu we think. we found out how it's spreading. find out that these patients are responding to treatments, there's no antiviral drug appears to have some benefit to it. and these doctors and nurses are leaders around the country. you know what they are doing? they're getting on the phone, they're getting on conference calls, and teaching the medical centers around the country how to deal with an upcoming quarantine situation. take a look. >> i was not frightened until yesterday. >> this footage is from inside the coronavirus quarantine unit at the nebraska medical center in omaha. >> so this is my room and the quarantine. >> this hospital is at the very nucleus of the american effort to defeat the disease. they just started clinical trials for an antiviral

medication. we spoke to dr. andre kalil, who is running the trials, and he's optimistic. >> i think that the data that we have available suggests it's promising. >> late last night, the 15th patient arrived in the quarantine unit. >> we saw the patient coming in from sacramento. coronavirus. >> some of the best physicians in the country are right inside your trying to figure out what the coronavirus is and how to treat it. >> if the coronavirus spreads around the country, are you going to be able to teach other medical centers around the country? >> we are, and we have been for many years. >> dr. jeffrey gold is chancellor at the university of nebraska medical center. >> watch what's going on in singapore, and western europe, et cetera. if they can't contain the virus, i would say we are next. >> dr. gold walked us to the building to the quarantine center where doctors seem to have things almost under control. >> these are the elevators that bring you down into the quarantine unit where the patients are being kept.

>> in another part of the medical center we went to the entrance of the bio containment unit were coronavirus patients go if they are in serious condition. >> this is the main entrance to the unit. >> comanager of the bio containment unit. >> if the store is open, the door on the inside cannot open. >> the drug trial is happening inside, but most of the action or inaction is back in the quarantine unit where patients wait in solitude to see what the future holds. >> you know, i'm isolated and i have three people a day that come in at breakfast, lunch, and dinner and that's the only contact we have. >> tucker, tonight, you saw on the piece, who i interviewed, the patient broke a tooth she couldn't get a dentist into help her fix it because of the quarantine. they had to send in mondo, tucker tucker. back to you. >> tucker: amazing story. dr. siegel, thanks so much for that report from omaha tonight.

as infections of coronavirus search around the globe for the first time, they are now more new cases outside of china then within it, that's of course if you believe the numbers from the chinese government. should we believe those numbers? a gordon chang is the author of the coming collapse of china, he joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. how would you assess the state of coronavirus in china right now? >> we don't know, tucker, because as you point out, the chinese government really has not been telling the truth. they say that the number of new infections has gone down, and that would be a great story, but unfortunately, it coincides with what xi jinping, the chinese ruler, wants to do. he wants china's workers to go back to their job places, so i'm afraid that all these statistics showing a subsidence of company vid 19 are really meant to support this whole notion of getting china back to work. we should be very suspicious of those numbers. >> tucker: what's interesting,

if you take a step back, is that the promise of globalism is that the world will cooperate, right? that we will all act together in concert for the benefit of everyone. all of a sudden, globalism seems like a weakness in the middle of a rising pandemic. >> you're absolutely right. when you have globalism, when you have international commerce, when you have a lot of tourism, these diseases spread very quickly and one of the important things that the u.s. date, the trump administration did, was at the end of january, to impose these travel restrictions in these quarantines, and that's the reason why we do not have an emergency situation in the united states today. if we had kept our borders open, and that's exactly what china wanted us to do, we would have a problem. as president trump has said, he took a lot of heat from the chinese. they went after him every single day with propaganda asking him, demanding that he open the borders to the u.s. he didn't do it, and that's to the credit of the president of the united states.

>> tucker: propaganda that many in our press corps repeated uncritically, it's racist to close the borders, racist against china, one of the most racist countries in the world, by the way, but it was somehow racist of us to stop lights from china. what do you think the actual economic situation is like in china right now? >> i think the chinese economy is contracting. oil demand is down 20% year on year. they've canceled a number of very important events including the canton fair, which was scheduled to be in april. we have seen maybe only a third, maybe 40% of china's workers have actually returned to their jobs. housing is at a standstill. on and on. car sales for the first 16 days of this month were down 92%, so china is in contraction right now. >> tucker: and finally, are you satisfied that we know exactly where this virus came from? >> no. we don't.

we have a lot of information which goes both ways, but the authoritative reduced medical journal said that many of the initial cases did not come from the wet market, and that's the predominant theory, that it started in the wet market. it also could've started at that p for biosafety lab. i'm not saying that that's the case, but you can't rule it out, because there's a lot of science right now that is casting doubt on this notion it came from the wet market. >> tucker: yet. this is the problem with global partnerships with countries you can't trust. you can't trust them. gordon chang, thank you for that, good to see you tonight. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: there was another democratic debate last night. the last democratic debate before the south carolina primary this weekend and then super tuesday. so how do democrats feel after having watched it? well, it turns out the world that keeps coming up again and again and again is nervous. meaning panicked. and they have good reason to feel that way, we will show you

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♪ >> tucker: last night's democratic forum on cbs wasn't the final primary debate of the season, but it's likely the last one that will matter. between tonight and the nextba debate, a total of 21 states, andta that includes the biggest ones, california and texas, will hold their primaries. by then it will almost certainly be over. so you think the candidates would usete the time to talk abt things that voters care deeply about, and for a brief moment, one of them actually did that. d in his first answer, bernie sanders brought up wages. he said they ought to rise faster, which is true.

how could we just possibly go up with the open borders sanders has demanding? that's an unanswerable question, but at least he mentioned it, that's exactly what is the front runner. when you talk about things people care about, they respond. michael bloomberg is not the front runner. he'd like to be. at one given his chance to speak, bloomberg went right to the issue he believed voters care about most, the fact that bernie sanders is a secret russian agent. >> vladimir putin thinks that donald trump should be president of the united states come anda that's why russia is helping you get elected. it you lose to him. >> tucker: so that's what bloomberg's consultants told him to say. the lesson here is obvious, go into political consulting, even dumb people get rich. at least one audience in america was powerfully moved bybl bloomberg's attack, the other candidates. at the very mention of vladimir putin, the stage erupted. suddenly the debate sounded like a radicalup book club from the 1970s. old people yelling about the cold war. russia, russia, russia!

pete buttigieg, who was 38 but seems at least a century older, jumped in with his theory. what trump and his paymaster vladimir putin actually want, explains the tiny robot from south bend, is political chaos. buttigieg seems totally convinced that no one had ever said that before. by this point, the moderators at cvs just gave up. the chaos putin is hoping for a descendant the debate stage. sanders decided it was the perfect opportunity to indulge his real passion, which is attacking america, a country he clearly hates. herere he is explaining to the american criminal e justice sysm is actually more repressive and communist china's. >> we have a criminal justice system today that has not only broken -- it is racist, more people in jail than any other country on earth including china and one of the reasons for that is a horrific war on drugs. >> tucker: o oh, the war on drugs. it bernie sanders talks about that in every speech he gives.

a declining country with a sad underemployed middle-class obviously needs to smoke a ton more weed. that's bernie's solution to the malays, fire up bubble, numb o out, maybe you won't notice.fr where's all this we going to come from? bernie has a plan for that. black people are going to sell it to you. no kidding. watch this. >> and i'll tell you what else we are going to do, we're going to provide help to the african-american, latino, native american community to start businesses to sell legal marijuana rather than let a few corporations control the legalized marijuana market. >> tucker: that's a real clip, by the way. so first they fill black neighborhoods with abortion clinics, now the front runner is encouraging more black kids to sell drugs. but somehow this is the party black america. it doesn't sound like it. but whatever. joe biden changed the subject by making very loud noises. biden has lost his ability to

speak clearly, that's got to be frustrating for anyone. in biden's case, it led to a series of redirections. watch. >> you talk about when we're talking about with bernie. bernie in fact hasn't passed much of anything. the fact of the matter is -- >> look. >> look, the fact is -- i'm not a time, he spoke over time and i'm going to talk.r here's the deal. here's the deal. the fact of the matter is, look at h what's happening here. look at what's happening here. >> tucker: the crowd roared because screaming always elicits wars from crowds. our animal brains at work. but for those who are trying to follow what biden was actually sane, deaf people for example, reading it at home on closed captions, it was a profoundly confusing moment. by the end, his train of thought didn't simply get lost, it hopped the tracks and became a fiery derailment plunging off the bridge into the gorge below. >> i would make it clear -- i'd make it clear to china, we are

going to continue to move closer to make sure that we can, in fact, prevent china -- prevent north korea from launching missiles, to takeau them down ad if we don't -- why am i stopping? no one else stops. >> tucker: why am i stopping, he asks. because disjointed sentenced fragments are counter productive in a presidential campaign. the good news is at least biden still knows a verbal cul-de-sac when he gets one. a few months from now will be reciting allen ginsberg poems. elizabeth warren was there too, she's not going to be president, that's a good thing, she's awful. maybe the most unpleasant human being to ever run for president. you'd be in paraguay by the end of the first elizabeth warren administration just to stop the noise. warren seems to know this, she can tell that she is doomed. if nothing else, she's not stupid, and she's decided to spend her remaining time destroying michael bloomberg. and really that's a nice way to go out, if you think about it, it's a service to the country.

unfortunately, last time it didn't work. instead, warren just humiliated herself. >> i was visibly pregnant. the principal wished me luck and gave my job to someone else. pregnancy discrimination, you bet. but i was 21 years old, i didn't have a union to protect me and i didn't have any federal law on my side. so i packed up my stuff and i went home. at least i didn't have a boss who said to me "kill it" the way that mayor bloomberg is alleged to have said to one of his pregnant employees. >> tucker: wait a second. we have news emerging. did you just hear elizabeth warren say there are w circumstances in which encouraging abortion might be wrong? wow. don't tell planned parenthood, she'll lose her funding. meanwhile, her story abouter her own pregnancy, the one you just heard, could have beento the mot depressing moment of money. the story is a lie, everyone knows it is.

it's been conclusively debunked by her on tape, but warren keeps telling the story anyway with exactly the same inflections and pauses and hand gestures. keep in mind, this is a person who was once a tenured harvard law professor. she wrote a genuinely good book at one point. people respected her. now? well, now warren is up there degrading herself with some transparent whopper designed to show you how impressed she is. by the time this was over, warren will be hillary clinton, pacing her backyard with a bottle of wine and sending bitter tweets about trumpet midnight. no normal person will have lunch with her after this. it's pathetic and sad, but it's not just her, it's universal this year. everyone in the democratic field has been greatly diminished by this. and it's not because they're all dead people. not all of them are bad people. it's because their ideas are absurd. dana perino hosts the daily briefing and cohosts "the five." she is one of the experts on what's going to happen. >> that was a good runn there.

that was a good run, i loved all that. >> tucker: i am confused after watching this -- by the way, im enjoying it and i hope this goes on foreverr. because it's 12 das of christmas, but why are some of these candidates still in the race do you think? >> i think a couple of things, one, our party structure is no longer strong enough to try and out. the debate structures are terrible because what they basically done is giving you these thresholds to hit both in fund-raising for how many donors yousi can get and then in the number -- the amount you can get in the polls, and that has not narrowed the field at all. the other thing that's quite interesting is that elizabeth warren was basically trying to do what chris christie did, which is he was taking out everybody else in that last debate instead of president trump, who was the front runner. elizabeth warren spent most of the night going after mayor bloomberg, who she seems to have such disdain for because he actually earned a penny and became a billionaire. lots ofke pennies. my friend, who teaches at aca

university him and he's not a big liberal, of course, but he said elizabeth warren's style reminds him of the students he least.he and i think all of us went to school with somebody like that, right?th and i was surprised that somebody likei mike bloomberg didn't turn around and say something like the story of you getting fired for being pregnant when your teacher is a lie. but nobody calls him out on it and she lets bernie sanders skates. all those things that bernie sanders was saying, nobody even touches him, they just leave them alone, no wonder he's the front runner. >> tucker: it's bizarre. elizabeth warren, who is a legitimately smart person in my opinion it has said interesting ithings in years past has totay degraded herself i think. >> attention is also probably looking at a vice presidential slot. i think she honestly knows that not happening. biden likely to win south carolina this weekend. maybe not by a time, but he'll win and then by super tuesday will be clear she's not going to be able to make it. >> tucker: so that -- i mean,ke bloomberg still -- i think it seems like the main potential

challenger to bernie sanders. did he come out last night stronger or weaker would you say? >> i mean, if the worst debate ever was last week, then you can only do a little bit better and i think mike bloomberg did a little bit better. and mostly in the superle tuesdy states, he's pulling kind of third or fourth and a lot of those states. he's been able to get some recognition, but the debates are not inspiring. i do think joe biden winning in south carolina might make people wonder, is he a better option if you want an alternative topt burning? but even that seems far-fetched. i think that the bernie sanders thing is happening and you start to see even people like speaker pelosi have to say let the chips fall where they may. all the candidates are great, i'm just going to sit back here and not worry about it and they're going to end up with somebody that is mcgovern in 1972.

>> tucker: watch biden announce his victory in north carolina over the weekend. >> he's tired though. he's tired. >> tucker: that was mean, but probably true. so pelosi today just said look, if sanders is the nominee, of course i'm on board because i'm a loyal democrat. do you think that's true? is nominee, and he would have to think is the most likely, will democrats in washington get behind him do you think? >> yeah, i do. because what do they really wa want? they want power. he's the only ticket out of town, he better better get on board. i do think they will and they will put brave faces on and there will be some people who will behind the scenes -- nobody will save on the record except for somebody like a james carville who is willing to, but if he's going to be the only one that there -- they're certainly not going to start bernie sanders and if bernie sanders can show that in south carolina he can have a more diverse population vote for him like he did in nevada, i think it's very hard to take that away from him. >> tucker: i think that's

right. the great. dana perino, thank yu so much for that very >> thank you, see you later. >> tucker: in one of his less lucid moments last night, joe biden claims that half the country has been killed by guns in the last decade. if that's true, why is it so crowded? we will tell you. plus we will investigate biden's increasingly ambitious claims about his personal history. this is like a "new york times" wedding announcement when you have a harvard degree, times ten. we'll be right back. ♪ ss in america. t-mobile has the first and only, nationwide 5g network. and with it, you can shape the future. we've invested 30 billion dollars and built our new 5g network for businesses like yours. while some 5g signals only go a few blocks, t-mobile 5g goes for miles. no other 5g signal goes farther or is more reliable in business. tomorrow is in your hands. partner with t-mobile for business today.

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>> tucker: during the democratic debate last night, joe biden made a remarkable claim about the level of gun violence in this country, watch. >> 150 million people have been killed since 2007 when bernie voted50 to exempt the gun manufacturers from liability. more than all the wars, including vietnam from that point on. >> tucker: vietnam? more than that. at 150 million? that's almost half the country. dead in ten years. that's a lot of empty buildings. similarly biden meant to say 150,000, that's roughly the number of gun homicides in this country during that period, but democrats are doing their best to drive that number up. how? by attacking police and letting criminals, real criminals, go free. instead of fighting gun o violee by fighting actual criminals, they're trying to destroy the enemy and take guns from people who didn't vote for them. with assault weapons ban.

two assault weapons bans were? there's just been a big study on this question from johns hopkins peer at the party of science is ignoring it but the answer is no. they don't work. second amendment advocate joins tonight. thanks so much for comingg on. have you noticed there seems to be a connection between the vehemence of junk, gun-control advocates and their lack of knowledge about firearms? some of these people, biden is a perfect example, the round comes out of. if they don't know what a musclk is, and if theres sort of posing as experts, am i imagining this? >> your not imagining it. that's exactly what they're doing and to me that's the most disheartening aspect of this. we are talking about one of the most important constitutional rights in this country, but these individuals were calling themselves leaderse don't know the first thing about the subject they're talking about. they just get the talking points, get in front of the camera and then spew a bunch of misinformation toer millions of people and in the people believe it. >> tucker: so what's

interesting is that the same people who lecture you constantly about science and climate change and look at the data, assiduously ignore the data when it conflicts with their so-calle social engineeri. johns hopkins, a new study showing that assault weapons bans do not -- or there's no evidence to show that they do reduce mass shootings, so this would -- and a lot of studies have shown us, including the federal government's own studies during the clinton administration. why is this not kind of death for assault weapons bans? theyey don't work, so why are we still pushing them? >> well because, agenda. at the end of the day -- i want to go back to this point because it's their overall goal, which is controlled. they don't really care about what t the facts actually say. if what they want is to restrict the second amendment into oblivion. that's their goal. and at this point in time from what we've seen from all of the candidates who have been on stage talking about the second amendment and gun control, so forth and so on and people talk about confiscating

weapons, at this point we should all understand that, that they have an agenda to restrict the second amendment into oblivion. if this isn't about saving lives. this isn't about trying to find a balance but have a conversation because if it was, they wouldn't be talking about how they beat or destroyed the nra, they were talking about, okay, how do we balance protecting people's rights while trying to, you know, save lives in some manner that makes sense and that's actually possible without taking away people's constitutional rights that as far asha i'm concerned i'm not willing to give up for the sake of saying, you know what, i do feel a little bit safer when i'm not actually s safer. so that's the problem with this conversation as a whole. they really don't care. what they care about is gaining control. >> tucker: controlling the population. an armed population is hard to control. if they cared about gun violence they would focus their efforts in places where gun violence is the biggest problem, but of course there against that. it's great to see you.

>> absolutely. >> please finish up, put a bow on it. >> so for them it's too multifaceted for them. they don't actually want to do work, they don't want to roll thee sleeves up and get the jobs done because when you talk about the places that have the most gun violence, it's a social economic issue. it's not a gun issue. because if it were a gun issue, we see this violence widespread across the country. we don't, just concentrated in very specific areas and there are patterns to all of these areas that are not being addressed. but that would require them to actually care and actually do work. instead they go into this place is in the essay we will give you gun-control and then leave and never show up again. >> tucker: if someone's trying to make you powerless and helpless you should be nervous. that's a sign, that's not a good sign i don't think at all. great to see you, thank you for that. >> absolutely, thank you for having me. >> tucker: joe biden's chief claim to the presidency is longevity. he was in the senate a long ti time. i'm 50, he was first selected the year i was born.

so all that time in office obviously has given him a tremendous set of accomplishments to brag about. to hear biden tell it, he is the single most accomplished politician in the history of this country. he is a statesman, he's a thinker, scholar, lover, and a fighter. he's a national hero. ♪ >> i am spent more time with xi jinping than anynt world lear by the time i left off sms this is a guy who i was able to convince should join the international agreement. no one up here ever dealt internationally with any of these world leaders. i'm the only one thaty has. >> domestic abusers can't go out and get an ak-47. that bill, along with -- you didn't right that bill. i wrote that bill. >> i wrote the bill. took out of the hands of people who abuse --- >> we will have a fact check look at this.

>> looked look at the fact-check. >> the halfway mark. >> i wrote the bill that set up --ha >> i helped set up that office in the presidency and the president's office. what we did with ebola, i was part of making sure that pandemic did not get to the united states, saved millions of lives. >> why should anyone have faith that you're the one who can get this done now? >> because i'm the only one that ever got it done. >> tucker: [laughs] i'm the only one that ever got it done! it all kind of makes you feel better for al gore. while he did was claim to invent the internet and they never got past it. people were mocking him to this day. meanwhile, joe biden, that guy gets up early. he's setting up drug courts on thursday, meeting with xi jinping on friday. before the weekend is done he stopping ebola. this guy is an animal, he's a savage! and with the recent discovery of his arrest in south africa, you wonder what else he has done that he simply forgot about or hasn't taken credit for yet. maybe joe discovered viagra.

that would make sense. maybe he invented yoga pants. that's another achievement biden would certainly be here to brag about. and by the way he would deserve praise for that. maybe next week will reveal that after taking on corn pop with a chain he went home and came up with a peanut butterhe sandwich. and you know what, let's go even further. biden is taking credit for writing a lot of laws. howw do we know he didn't write the greatest law of all, the constitution of the united states? why not? we are already tearing down statutes of the other founders. let a new founder take their place.ak joe biden. how we card from another national monument, radio show host, author of "what really happened" and he joins us tonight. this guy clearly doesn't get a lot of sleep. with that many compliments, it's like he never stops moving. >> youou know, omer simpson used to say doughnuts, is there anything they can't do? now we can say the same thing of gjoe biden. he can do anything. i think -- i think this is one reason why legislators at

whatever level have a hard time moving up to the executive branch. he mentioned al gore. john kerry, you know, i voted for the 87 billion before i voted against the 87 billion so that was pick and choose. and you know joe biden has just taken it to its logical extreme here. i mean, he does everything. you notice though, last night, he didn't take credit for voting for the iraq war. he had to be reminded of that by bernie sanders. at least bernie sanders -- at least bernie sanders admitted hey, i make some bad boats now and then. you never hear that from joe bident. he's never made a bad vote. he didn't mention clarence thomas' confirmation hearings either, but that's the way he is. you know, you didn't get -- you didn't mention some of the other -- what about the dash he knew eight presidents, three of them -- remember that when?

>> tucker: [laughs] no, i don't. that's quite an admission.ss but you know, he's been around for 50 years. he was vice president of the united states, you'd think thatu he would be secure. he's so overeager and insecure, kind of desperate to prove that his life meant something. how sad is that? how poignant is that to watch? >> it goes back too to college.t remember, he goes to speak to the black college group and he says i was the first white student at delaware state. you know, and then he's he says he quit the basket -- the football team at delaware, which is a division i school. now he's -- he was playing, he was a varsity -- got a letter at the university oft delaware. probably he would have been the starting quarterback. he could have beaten out joe flack oh, you know, the guy who won the super bowl for the ravens. you know, everything that it.ens, he was involved in you know it's amazing, remember in 2008 he was brought onto the

ticket, the democratic ticket because he had gravitas? i mean i thought at the time it was absurd, but i mean now, it's really sad that he's -- and they didn't even ask him last night about the south african adventure, you know with being arrested. only he wasn't arrested and he was in -- looking for nelson mandela. and nelson mandela wasn't even -- >> tucker: fighting apartheid. exactly, he was on the enemies list. he said to me once, you have to do the time, don't let the time to you, prison changes a man. how the car, great to see you. >> always a pleasure, talker. >> tucker: thank you. there's no shortage, as you've seen, both hilarious and bizarre moments to last night's debate. dave portnoy will assess what we saw. but first tonight, "the new york times" is been a leader in pushing the russia collusion hoax for years now. the president is suing "the new york times."

that hasn't happened in a while. a sitting president suing "the new york times." the attorney for the president of the united states in that case joins us next. ♪

♪ >> tucker:r: the trump administration won victory in federal court today and its ongoing fight against the nation's many sanctuary cities for illegal immigrants. to break his correspondent trace gallagher has the details on what happened. ery, trice. >> this is a big battle victory for the president because it means he might go on to win back the war. remember back in 2017 the administration moved to withhold about $400 million in federal grant money from cities and states that had implemented sanctuary laws m and policies where they refused to cooperate with federal immigration authorities when it comes to dealing with illegal immigrants. the cities and states quicklys

filed lawsuits and a series of lower courts ruled in their favor. later, the more liberal third, seventh, and ninth circuit court of appeals upheld the lower court's decision saying the administration had to give up the grant money. but now the second circuit court of appeals in new york has sided with the administration and because there is now a major conflict tween the various circuit courts, it's likely the supreme court will step in to make the final call. and aside from the court leaning-4 conservative scotus has repeatedly along said the federal government maintains broad power over states when it comes to immigration policy. record. >> tucker: interesting, trace gallagher, thanks foruc that. >> sure. >> tucker: the white house is open for yet another court win. today the trumper election campaign filed suit against "the new york times" for libel over the russia collusion hoax. specifically the lawsuit concerns and op-ed the paper published in march of 2019 that

explicitly accuse the trump campaign of reaching a "quid pro quo with the russian government in 2016. senior legal advisor to the term election campaign, joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: shall summarize for the nonlawyers among us what this suit alleges. >> first, it's very important to clarify that this is the donald j. trump for president inc. campaign, that is the plaintiff and the victim in this suit, not the president in his personal or official capacity. and so what we are suing for is to hold "the new york times" accountable for their false and malicious statements that were published on march 27th of 2019. there piece alleged and claimed in fact that there was a quid pro quo or a conspiracy between our campaign and russia for an exchange for emails from hillary clinton in exchange for pro-russia policy and lifting of economic sanctions.

that is provably false and the times new on march 27th that that was false and they published it anyway with actual malice, which means that they knew that it was false at the time of publication and also that they willfully ignored the truth, so it wasn't just even an intentional disregard for the trip, but they willfully ignored everything that was on the record. our lawsuit in fact shows at least four prior instances of the times own reporting that has debunked that claim and of course the mueller report fully exonerated the president. >> tucker: okay, so you're saying that because they ran reporting showing that the claims in the op-ed weren't true that they must've known that they weren't true? >> of course they knew and of course they knew and they ran with these false statements anyway and they made a factual assertions that were knowingly false at the time and they never reached out to the campaign to verify or even for comment before they ran the story. and so of course america stands for freedom of the press andec

freedom of speech, but that limitation on that freedom of course is when you knowingly publish false claims with actual malice. >> tucker: right. accusing someone of treason, as they did. what are you asking for? >> so we are asking for damages in the amount of the lens of dollars, which isn't specified in the lawsuit, but we are going to show that at trial and look forward to a full vindication. in holding "the new york times" accountable. this is not something that any publication or any publishing platform should ever do and their intentionally misleading their readers and in fact the even went so far in the response to our lawsuit to continue to mislead their readers by saying thatat just because this was published under the flag of an op-ed that somehow this was an opinion statement. no, this was a statement of fact that was ran as true and when in fact it was knowingly false, provably false and they had absolutely no legal right to run this. >> tucker: right. fact-check the op-eds that i know. maybe they don't anymore.

jenna alice, thank you so much for that, interesting story. >> thank you. >> tucker: so we talked to dave portnoy of ball's sports last week about the presidential debate that he saw, he almost choked on his beer watching that one. we've asked him to come back. he joins us after the break to assess what happened last night on stage. stayay tuned. ♪ - do you have a box of video tapes, film reels, or photos,

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>> tucker: democratic leaders in washington say they're feeling very concerned after last night's debate. but what did viewers think? dave portnoy isn't technically the president, but he has -- he is the founder and head guy at barstool sports. he came on last week to assess that debate. he's back tonight. dave joins us. thanks for coming on. you weren't super impressed by bloomberg last week. i think it's fair to say. you use the word vomit several times in your description. did you reassess review after watching last night? >> i don't know if i reassessed. i don't think anybody came out looking good yesterday. he blended in. i'm not sitting here singling him out. i mean this was a -- this was a war, this was like anchorman when every news station has a weapon and they're just hitting each other with it. it was sort of embarrassing. again. i don't know if you watch it, they're all raising their hand, they're all screaming over each other. i absolutely do not know a simple question, why can't they

turn up the microphones when their time is up? they do it on a ton of game shows, your time is up, your microphone is off. i could win this debate because i would just never shut up. i would never be intimidated to stop talking. if you just talked the longest the loudest, eventually you get the floor. but honestly,nd i tweeted this out. if i was an alien and i landed on earth and this is who are supposed leaders were, the people competing to be the president, i would invade. i mean, it's embarrassing. i don't know if it's any different than republicans or n' this process, i mean, there has to be a better way to do this. they just scream at each other and look like morons. it looks like a kindergarten with no teachers in it. it's disgusting. >> tucker: so i've got two questions. at one why would you invade, because they look so weak, they be easy to take over or you t would invade for their own good, or both? >> i would probably invade both for their own good, but they're all going to be looking at each other, battling each other and then you can walk right by them into the white house.

it's literally insane. these are supposed to be intelligent people screaming at each other. and by the way, i also just lie. i would never shut up and i would lie. i would just our stats, figures, nobody knows. you can say anything, nobody knows the real time if it's true. and by the time tomorrow rolls around, couple stats i checked, yeah, biden can go out and stay everybody in america was killed by guns last year because we are still alive. unless you screw up that badly, nobody knows. it's just a shout fast. that's all it is. that's what politics are. >> tucker: shouldn't the moderators? you have them at your office. what is that? shouldn't they be -- shouldn't they be keeping control? >> it's really simple. shut the mic off. you have 30 seconds and r then u press a button, your microsoft, you're screaming at air. is that revolutionary? how hard is that to do? heyis buddy, your time is up. you get muted. the span, that show around the horn, they do it all the time. your time is up, beep, you can't talk anymore. instead they just scream at each

other. it's insane. >> tucker: you've got some loud guys in your office, you don't put up with this kind of stuff, do you? >> this is what it looks like, but here's the thing, i want to put our guys running the country. we are idiots, everybody looks at us and says barstool sports, brat humor, they're yelling at each other, locker room environment. these are the people who criticize us. these areot the people -- they e worse than we are. i want to say this, i'm wearing an armani suit, it's one of the reasons i came on because of burning if elected i o don't wat him to steal it from me so i wanted to get some use permit. >> tucker: if elizabeth warren gets elected, by the s way, goig straight to prison. >> it's going to be too busy. again, i'm smarter than they are, they just yell at each other and al gore around the corner. erhonestly, shut the microphones off. this isn't just democrats, republicans, they just scream at each other, make stuff up and everybody just looks around in the audience like what just happened, how could anybody pick up between?

how? >> tucker: one of the great debate assessments effort. dave portnoy, barstool sports, thank you great to see you. back tomorrow from 8:00 p.m., the throat with a sworn enemy of mine, verbosity, smugness and groupthink. sean hannity takes over the hour now. >> sean: thank you. a lot of news tonight and welcome to hannity. a lot to cover, nikki haley will be here tonight, our own lawrence jones, our 2020 correspondent caught up with quid pro quo joe and we had the exclusive. and tonight i will go one-on-one with, yes, our radical, far left new york city mayor bill de blasio and his opinions on bloomberg and on bernie sanders but we start tonight in south carolina. my credit party is in a state of shambles. 251 days until you, we, the american people, you will be the ultimate jury, you will render your verdict. democrats are in the midst of a full-blown political crisis. last night's debate was a national embarrassment. that p