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>> ed: fox news announcing a town hall at president trump. >> sandra: it set to happen march 5th in scranton, ben sweeney. bret baier and martha maccallum will be moderating. that's next thursday here on the fox channel. steyer cana virginia just endorsed joe biden are there's a lot happening. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert, u.s. markets and turmoil as you've seen and the kronos virus fears are looming as stocks are plunging again today. the dow is seeing it's worth a sell off since thousand eight. more than $3 trillion of market value wiped away in the past several days. however, the white house urging us all to stay calm. top economic advisor larry kudlow said this about the sell-off. >> this is about an external shock, some call it the coronavirus, it's coming out of china, and has nothing really to
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do with internal domestic conditions here in the united states. there may be some additional cases here in the states, but we still feel the risk of something very bad is lou. >> harris: you are watching "outnumbered" on this friday. i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. fox business network anchor, dagen mcdowell. executive director of the serve america pac and fox news contributor, marie harf. in the center seat, host of "bulls and bears" on the fox business network, david asman, and he is "outnumbered." actually, marie, you and i are "outnumbered." we have the stars from spn. >> marie: i'm not saying anything about markets. [laughter] >> harris: i want to start with you, some of the reporting that your market has been doing on the internal debt. you sigh larry kudlow talking about it. external versus internal. the government being taken to tasks today by some, that's being reported by fbn. when people landed at military
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bases, coming back into this country, whether they were showing symptoms or not, clearly this disease spreads whether you have a symptom or not, to take into effect. when they landed, we have video of people showing up and greeting some of these people, and they didn't have on the protective gear. it is some of the fear we are seeing on wall street a reaction to, are we really ready? >> david: mistakes will be made at times like these, but that seemed to be such an unforced error it was ridiculous. hopefully -- i think what is happening with the markets today, specifically, i think it goes far beyond that. what it is focusing on is whether or not the supply chains of the world on which markets rely are going to be fundamentally disrupted by this virus. that is to say whether they will be in the factories closing. not only in china but in europe and eventually in the united states, so the economies of all of the great regions of the world won't shut down. they're not going to shut down
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completely but will be curtailed significantly enough. leasing 12, 15 percent drop in the markets in the past two weeks. that is big, that's a correction. a 20% down in the markets is when we turn into a bear market. that is really significant. if we have a case where the worldwide economic system, all the factories and all of the consumers and everything, cut their spending and they are producing by 20%, the market will follow that by 20%. if, in fact, the warmer weather and abilities to deal with it, not these silly mistakes being made but really significant efforts by people of significance like dr. fauci, et cetera, they begin to get this under control, you will see it come back into markets. >> harris: melissa, you and i are always talking about how to stay calm in those moments when things are pitching in and out of panic. the reason i brought up the
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mistake that is being reported so early is that something we actually can do something about. we always say that investors are looking for more predictability as much as they can see in the market. i wonder if that will help quell fears. there are certain things perhaps we haven't done the way we should, that we can actually fix ourselves. what else helps at this point? >> melissa: traders that are moving the market right now are operating on a different level. there's a couple different things. there is emotion in the market, and there are traitors that make money off that emotion. that you anticipate with the town is going to be and try to get out of that periods of his bad news coming out, you try and get down ahead of that. that exacerbates the move. that's one thing. there are the actual math things you can look at, the supply and demand david was talking about. you talk about supply shocks in the chain, where there are factories that are shut down. fbn's susan li did an important interview with tim cook from apple yesterday that's playing all day today over and fbn.
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he says, among other things, that he's in the third phase. of the factories over in china i back up and running. not only are the open, they've got them back, now they are in the ramping up mode. i talked to 23 ceos yesterday, both on the record, saying that they are -- >> harris: how can they do that so quickly? >> melissa: the virus is coming down in china. in places like italy where it's ramping up, you'll see disruptions. then there is the man shock. people who aren't out and doing things. it's not going away, it's not going to have prolonged -- right, but when my family is at home in place, they are not spending money, they are spending more money. they're on their phones, buying things. i get them out of the house to save money. when we are home we are ordering stuff. we are getting movies, doing netflix. >> harris: and the rest of the country we are all driving and filling up gasoline and everything else, it's a different factor. what you said is so important.
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>> melissa: i think it's overblown. >> harris: there is a wave of emotion. >> melissa: one more factor real quick, the market was up too high. i got up, up. every trader in the world to sing to me you can go up forev forever. we were looking for an excuse to sell. >> david: but it did go down. and you can recover tremendously from a down market. >> dagen: the danger of a sell-off like this and what is shocking is the drop of more than 10%. this is a record amount of time that the s&p 500 has fallen from a record high into correction territory. the danger is the fear and the market starts effecting people's behavior in this country. one of the big things is the unknown. to sell and try and figure what happens later. multiple investment banks have come out and said american businesses will not generate any
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earnings this year, potentially, if the virus becomes widespread. and investors, individual and professional, value stocks in large part based on what the earnings look like. and i will end with this, people always -- and this is my 25-year career in writing about finance -- it always bothers me that people talk about individual investors and retail investors who do something else for a living as being a slow and irrational and emotional. they are not. individuals are better positioned to weather this than professionals. last year, individual investors pulled money from mutual funds and exchange-traded funds in decades paid where did they put it? in bonds and in money market accounts. they were taking money out of stocks, by billions and billions of dollars, putting it in the ballast of bonds and in money market accounts. you know what professionals are doing or before the soft start it? ramping up the leverage, essentially borrowing money to then amplify their bets on risky
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assets. >> harris: boy, we've seen that before. we've seen that behavior before. >> dagen: that's one of the reasons you have the swift downdraft. >> melissa: these are about the individual versions of the institution paid another important thing for regular people out there to know is a ls computer-driven. this is algorithms, this is why when you talk about how we've seen the swiftness, that is what driving a lot of the swiftness. this idea that people -- that institutions are trading a large amount of money and algorithms -- in my mind that's what drove a lot of the run-up, as well. you're going up faster and coming down faster. the individual, like you said, it means stay put. in my mind, that's my opinion. >> harris: marie, i want to bring it in the conversation. i know you said you didn't want to talk about markets, it's not your thing, but politics are. federal health officials are briefing lawmakers on the coronavirus this morning amid a growing capitol hill showdown over this issue, as you know. top senate democrats, chuck schumer yesterday, once again going after the president's overall response.
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watch that. >> despite months of public warning about the danger of this disease, the president was caught completely flat-footed by the coronavirus. and now, instead of quickly marshaling the resources of the federal government to respond to this health crisis, president trump is intent on blaming everyone and everything and set solving the problem. >> harris: the president firing back on this, accusing democrats of trying to do the coronavirus fear it to their advantage. >> this is really above politi politics. it's easy for schumer. "what kind of a job do you think they are doing," he should say they've done a good job. he actually pick up votes, people would respect him for that. "they're doing a terrible job!" he has no idea. >> harris: does the president have a point? is it feeding hysteria to just beat up on the other side? >> marie: donald trump treated
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how many times about the response to ebola? when he was a private citizen, he used that politically, tried to raise fears. >> harris: and you don't think that's different than chuck schumer out of the democrats of the senate talking about it? >> marie: he was a major figure in the republican party at the time. this idea --dash republicans in congress went after president obama on ebola politically constantly. this idea that now we have to all be but nonpartisan, there is a way to have a debate. i think democrats and republicans and americans are within their right to question how the government is responding. not about politics but to question the response. president trump -- we talked about this yesterday, going out there in that press conference, saying a number things done lack of things that weren't accurate instead of giving the podium to the experts, i think that was a mistake. >> harris: he finally did, he said what if i needed to say. he said, "i'm going to let adverbials take over."
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i think you will concede this point. ebola in this country, that we were able to contain it with some of the best scientific minds and medical minds in the world, helping this country stay safe, is very different than having cases pop up. the landscape is different. and this is less of a time for them to punch at each other in any way, shape, and form. >> marie: they are both public health crises, ebola was much more deadly. >> dagen: 90% mortality rate. >> david: i don't agree with peggy and a lot of stuff she says about the president, but she made a great point at the end of that piece where she said, "please, folks, we need a political detente on the virus. the various doesn't respond to political tough talk. maybe tax cuts do, maybe other things in politics do, but the virus doesn't respond to that." we have a great general in dr. fauci. his early general in this case. let's get behind the people who
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know -- >> dagen: how about debbie birx? she was the aids coordinator and now she is the core data for -- >> marie: there are multiple reports that the demonstration is not letting dr. fauci or ambassador birx talk about this publicly. >> david: dr. fauci totally deny that. he was asked that question specifically. >> marie: there were multiple reports. >> david: instead of crediting multiple reports come i would credit dr. fauci himself who said that's not true. >> dagen: how about alexandria ocasio-cortez mocking perez dominic vice president pence? i don't remember people mocking joe biden when president obama named them to run the cancer moon shot. i don't remember anybody mocking the vice president over that. i will understand why you have somebody communicating the message of a group of great health care professionals, why that deserves vertical. >> david: listen to the professionals come out these unnamed sources. >> marie: the president is saying something different. that's a credibility problem,
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david. >> david: dr. fauci is saying, "listen to what i say, i don't have a problem with with the president is saying." his words, not mine. >> harris: the last word on this, if i might, we are in on it together. i intend to go forward. i want this country to not just survive, i wanted to thrive. so we have to do that together. let's move on. it could be his last stand. joe biden is pulling out all the stops in south carolina. will that be enough? plus, bernie sanders dethroning biden in a national fox poll mark for the very first time, telling his followers they cannot be stopped, amid reports some democratic leaders are planning to do just that, try to stop him. even if it hurts the party. juicy! [applause] ,♪ re than i could have imagined. my grandfather was born in a shack in pennsylvania, his father was a miner, they were immigrants from italy and somewhere along the way that man changed his name and transformed himself into a
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>> we are building a movement that cannot be stopped. it is a justice movement. it is a movement for economic justice, for social justice, for racial justice, for environmental justice. and when maneuverings of people stand up and fired back, nothing on earth can stop us. >> melissa: bernie sanders addressing supporters in south carolina ahead of tomorrow's primary there, and super tuesday three days later. that is when more than a third of all democratic delegates will be up for grabs across 14 states and u.s. territories. this, as joe biden finds himself out of the top spot in a fox news national poll for the first time. sanders ahead with a record 30% support among primary voters.
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a distant second at 18%, biden, barely edging out mike bloomberg. i want to ask you about this. this is among democratic primary voters. do voters think this candidate could beat president trump in a general election? 65% of democrats think bernie sanders can beat him. 57% say bloomberg can beat him. 56% think joe biden could beat him. 37% think elizabeth warren could beat him. that's a lot of confidence. >> david: particularly the sanders thing. see to it so well-founded confidence. >> david: i don't think so. based on what's happening. anything can happen with the virus and what happens as a result of that to our economy. one thing to be known about this poll, it ended on the 26th of february. the night of the 25th was the debate and a lot of people said sanders was hurt by that debate,
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because everybody ganged up on him and he couldn't really answer the cuba charge. some of the support for sanders and that poll might be overdone. that is to say in south carolina, for example, i understand he's in massachusetts and not south carolina. he is conceding that to joe biden. >> harris: a win, but not a tight one. even he was catching up among some black voters. >> david: you point out something very important. >> melissa: the question is the confidence. does the party reflect that? >> david: the confidence that sanders has an ability to beat donald trump i think it's kind of pie-in-the-sky. i just don't think it's going to happen. >> harris: people above 55%. >> marie: ended the head-to-head in our poll, number ruler of democrats beat them at head-to-head when they have their names on the ballot. people are watching to see how joe biden does on saturday. i think he will in south carolina.
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bernie sanders, bloomberg, warren, a lot of them are focusing on super tuesday states. massachusetts is one of those, that's why bernie is up there. he's trying to take that away from elizabeth warren, interestingly. >> melissa: do you think they can beat president trump -- do you think all through those people could beat president trump? >> harris: something must have changed. remember back in the summer we were talking about how the president hit anybody six points above with a pretty healthy six-point spread that had the word "socialist" anywhere near them. while elizabeth warren hasn't necessarily called herself a democratic socialist, a lot of her policies are a lot like bernie sanders'. it's the ground they fight over. so what has changed? >> david: you add up all the programs both of them have pronounced, and you get figures of $50 trillion over a 10-year period. >> marie: a lot of them are really popular though! at >> david: but they are impossible to pay for. >> harris: what has changed -- they can maybe can take this,
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too -- between his ability, president trump, to be those 4-left-leaning policyholders and would-be makers to now? >> dagen: i don't think anything has changed. it'll be an easy argument to make if it's president trump versus bernie sanders. it does increasingly look like it's going to be him. in the real clear politics average he is leading in california, texas, north carolina, and virginia. granted the margins. the margins are narrow, less than two percentage points, but bloomberg is not even making a -- [blows raspberry] >> david: making a what? [laughter] >> dagen: he is second in virginia. but where's bloomberg and all of this? he could hurt bernie sanders in the states to come if he runs an antisocialist or anti-communist campaign on tv and online. >> marie: yes, and he has been doing that. one of the reasons the numbers have changed is bernie sanders -- 's don't like to go things. he has a motivated move it
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behind. similar to what donald trump had in 26 teen he can move a crowd like one person in this country, that's donald trump. secondly, we saw in nevada that he's able to coalesce latino and black voters to win in a way that we weren't sure bernie sanders could. >> harris: particularly younger. sue have exactly. we need the nominee to do that to beat president trump. he is causing folks there was a questioaamark about >> harris: the younger black and latino voters don't know him outside of reading it in the history books what he did. or who he is, who he was. so they are voting based on the candidates before them. nec bernie sanders time and time again -- >> david: the biggest matzoh ball there with bernie sanders is that 67% of people -- again, a lot of these polls, 67% of
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americans don't want a socialist nominee or president. how are you going to deal with that? >> harris: he signed a piece of paper. >> dagen: chuck rocha, working bernie sanders campaign, for four years has been targeting latino voters, knowing, being a child of mexican american father and growing up in texas, and he tweeted this the other day. he is winning the latino vote in great margins because we are running a campaign centered in their community with intentional hiring and paid advertising from latinos to latinos. chuck, somebody who has been on the air on fox news for years. so how did they miss this gmac >> melissa: i don't know but, but the cuba thing is not going up on that front. be sure to turn in on fox sunday to see chris wallace interview joe biden. check your local listings. you don't want to miss this. i know i don't. i'll be watching.
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>> harris: a government whistle-blower has filed a complaint that reportedly claims health and human services workers who helped the first americans evacuated from china did not have proper training or protective gear. the whistle-blower's attorneys are also saying those workers did not show symptoms of infection and were not tested for the virus. this coming the same day we learned of a four-day delay in testing in northern california woman who appeared to be the first u.s. patient who never went to any infected areas outside the country or came into contact with anybody who had the coronavirus. here is california governor gavin newsom. >> we have just a few hundred testing kits in the state of california, and that is surveillance testing as well as diagnostic testing. it is simply inadequate to do justice to the kind of testing that is required to address this issue head-on. and i'm very pleased the cdc is moving expeditiously on that. >> harris: david, we talked about this just very, very briefly off the tippy top of the
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show. i pointed to it, as maybe reason believe investors would respond. i'm curious, why are we calling this person this person necessarily whistle-blower? i just don't say that because it's in the nomenclature. we have video of people who are responding. we can see who had -- it might not be like this close, but you can see who has on those suits and who doesn't. >> david: as i mentioned before, is a total unforced error. that was really very basic stuff that was just totally blown out of the water by that. whoever is responsible should be chastised were taken off whatever responsibility they did have. >> harris: or whatever accountability. >> david: we will see a lot of finger-pointing. some of it is right to do, but to this to have gavin newsom, whose record it with public hyg, if you watch san francisco, is questionable not totally outrageous. lecturing people about public
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hygiene seems a bit hypocritical to me. >> harris: dagen? >> dagen: we were talking about this on the break. i think the bigger question, the bigger argument, will be, is this a testament to the failure of government to manage health care? >> melissa: that's an interesting point. >> dagen: if you are advocating, you are a democrat running for the nomination, you are advocating for much larger role in the health care system for the government to, you might think bernie sanders is the end-all be-all in terms of managing that system -- say, single-payer, medicare for all -- but he will be forever if you won the highest office in the land. it will be somebody else, and it will be somebody else. it raises the issue of, do you think the government handles your health in a way that a satisfactory, that they keep america safe? i will raise this issue, my great aunt was sterilized by the state of virginia and it was
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under a democratic president. so that didn't stop. spew when you are talking government overall. >> dagen: that didn't help people who were sterilized. >> harris: i want to bring a buddy's attention because i know we have a camera on what we call the fishbowl. it's a huge image we can take a peek at to see who greeted that plane. we don't have the roster of every single person on the ground, so i can't tell you what their duties are. but you can clearly see some are wearing white suits and masks and some are not. we know of the situation where the woman was just taken, in northern california, she lived in a home with three generations. it's got those people there. that is in the home. and accept that as exposure we have to get to. however, when she showed up at the hospital i know they are looking at hospital staff, and they weren't dressed in the suits even after dr. suspected, was there that underlying notion of government? they were trained to follow the federal protocols to test her.
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they were doing what they were told to do. >> marie: but i do think that the reason this person -- i don't know if it's a woman or man -- is called a whistle-blower is because reportedly -- >> harris: i don't know, either. >> marie: when they were raising the concerns they were told they had to move to another officer leave their job. so there's there there's the retaliation aspect part of it. but this is a really good question, harris. there are times when the government has to play a role in health care regattas of whether we support medicare for all or a public option or any of that. it really requires the whole of government approach. something like this at the state department, getting people not allowed to come in from china or allowing americans to go there, the cdc, everyone working together, interestingly the way the medicare for all folks are spinning this online, which actually think is pretty good, as they are saying essentially a version of "the country's health care system is only as good as the person with the weakest health care." if everybody had better health care were for everybody was on a medicare for all system, or if everybody had the opportunity to do
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single-payer -- >> harris: when you say that's a good way to spin it, are you in favor? you think that's true? >> marie: have never been in favor of medicare for all. i'm in favor of a public option with private insurance remaining, which i think most democrats are, as well, statistically. but it's a good way to spend it to say, "we'll have great health care." but if someone doesn't and gets on the subway and we get on the subway, it's a very good way -- it's a clever response. >> melissa: to diggins often don't like argument about not wanting to put the government in charge. >> david: present health care workers, there will be a lot of finger-pointing for mistakes made. we have extruder facilities. >> harris: and first responders. >> david: he had that great interview with dr. siegel yesterday out of nebraska, and one of the scary things he mentioned is that that virus is more contagious, possibly, than the flu itself. they are taking it seriously. he saw in china, a lot of these
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>> melissa: president trump heading to south carolina, where crowds are already forming at israeli tonight. just one day before the state's democratic primary tomorrow. this, as some republicans are a part of growing nervous about the 2020 election over the impact of the coronavirus concerns have been on the markets. north carolina senator kevin cramer telling the hill, "at the end of the day, elections, especially
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reelections, for president are largely based on the economy and people's sense of cicada. a virus like this can have an impact on both." that sounds right. the only problem with that is there will be 550,000 new cycles between now and the election. and of the economic -- >> david: that's an exact number, right? >> melissa: i know the impact can be big, but it's early. >> david: to take a picture at any point in the past three years, frankly, but particularly in the last couple of months, is an absurd thing to do. look at the polls that mean the most the folks in the trump administration, they are primarily people's sense of security. do people feel good about themselves and where they are for their families, et cetera? people feel a lot less secure right now. this week, not only with the virus itself but particularly the effects of the virus, which you see in the stock market, it's generally 470 points.
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but the point is that the less secure people feel about where they are right now during the trump presidency, the less likely it is for trump to be reelected. >> harris: can i just ask all of you from fbn, what about this talk of a recession? you know, it is so fair what you say. when you take a snapshot, remember, just a few months ago we talked about a recession. a few months before that, "he could never happen." and a few months before that, "it's coming." what is the reality of that? what does it mean, a recession, in today's world where we see numbers on the dow we've never seen before? it's hard to panic when you see 27,000, something we haven't seen in our lifetime. yeah, it makes you skip when you lose 3,000 points. with the reality? >> david: i think the last on the market had to face off against the possibility of a recession where it was really hurt was in december of 2018. >> harris: i remember. >> david: coming rates too
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much on the president got on them and put him down again pay the market is now at 25,000. if you're thinking about how bad it could get, because of all the talk of recession, the talk of recession could bring it down possibly to those 28, december 2018 levels. we could have another two or 3,000 to go. >> melissa: i want to point out, we went and tracked the s&p versus sars come all the other things that have come along. 90 days after the first case, every single case is up. you talk about sars as being the most comparable in terms of when i was talking to global economist yesterday. they were saying -- can i just finish this? sars, 22.5% the , and the market was up 90 days later. mike pompeo is taking the stage right now at cpac. he was just introduced by his wife, susan. let's listen. >> good afternoon.
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[cheers and applause] thank you. thank you so much. this is awesome. so, i survived an introduction by my wife, that's good. i just left the oval office, i survived that, too appear [laughter] i told the president where i was going. "i've got to get over, the people are all waiting for me!" "i've got to defend america's foreign policy accident" "that'll be easy." [laughter] i'm thrilled to be here at the largest conservative gathering in the country, except for every trump rally. [cheers and applause] you should all know, i was going to pass out copies tonight but i heard nance the river is still on the loose. [laughter] so no hard copies of my remarks. [applause]
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let me start with a simple question. i think i know the answer. can anyone in this room remember a better time to be an american conservative? [cheers and applause] we are safer than ever, our economy is more prosperous than ever, and president trump will not stop winning. [cheers and applause] it's what a lot of folks have been working on for a long time. you heard from susan, not so many years ago susan and i were right there beside you. we will don't like working our tails off as grassroots volunteers trying to get good volunteers we did our best to help susan schlep be successful >> harris: mike pompeo talking at cpac. if you want to hear the entirety of those remarks, it is streaming live right now on fox nation. i want to bring it back to the conversation that we were having before this, marie.
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and we were talking about the sentiment of safety in the economy going into the election. >> marie: we will watch president trump's rally, we started the segment talking about that. he sent a very good job of bracketing democratic primaries he gets big crowds. i've heard what president trump said about not making this political and not taking political shots on the virus. i look forward to see him not do that tonight. that was a bit of sarcasm for everyone. >> melissa: i was going to say. >> marie: he will do this rally tonight, which often gets very heated. if there's a call for bipartisanship on this issue, he also needs to lead the way here in this conversation at his rally tonight. which she doesn't always do. >> melissa: i don't think he ever does that. the point is he does a giant cannonball over the top of the democrats and splashes into this rally, splashing water everywhere, filled with joy. >> marie: but you can't ask democrats to be bipartisan if they're not doing the same thi
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thing. >> dagen: we have no idea how this market sell-off now, what happens in the market in the coming months, how it plays out in november for one reason. we've never had a president who owns the stock market increases. i said before he was even inaugurated, remember when he went after boeing before the inauguration? in 2017? i said, "be very careful. when you own the market on the way up, you are going to own it on the way down." and a market decline is not a recession. a recession is a contraction in the gdp. it is very interesting, because the recession back in the early '90s ended march 1991. people didn't go to the polls for another 20 months, and bush still got voted out of office. so it's very tricky trying to read how people might react. people feel great about the economy right now, that 70% of people according to gallup earlier this year thought next year would be better, that it
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would be even better. but that could change. you got to watch it. >> melissa: the u.s. could sign a historic peace deal with the taliban tomorrow, but a group of more than 20 republican lawmakers have been questioned. could america's longest war be coming to an end? ♪ here's record-breaking news for veterans. va mortgage rates have dropped to near 50-year lows. newday usa can help you refinance your mortgage and save thousands a year. newday's va streamline refi makes it fast and easy because there's no income verification, no appraisal, and no out of pocket costs. i urge you to call newday usa now.
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>> marie: the u.s. poised to sign historic peace deal with the taliban in afghanistan tomorrow. house g.o.p. conference chairwoman liz cheney and 21 other republican lawmakers are asking the trump administration for more details. tomorrow's signing would be contingent on the taliban's weeklong reduction in violence, holding for one more day. the deal could pave the way for the withdrawal of u.s. troops from afghanistan. in the letter, cheney and her colleagues write, "we are seeking assurances he will not place the security of the american people in the hands of the taliban and undermine our ally, the current government of afghanistan." harris, this is the longest war in our country's history now. i said last week with a week before on this couch that i found this promising. we need to find a way to bring our troops home. there's love details people including liz cheney don't know yet. i am feeling congress can briefed as the next step here. >> harris: i wouldn't be offended to see the american
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people get briefed in some sort of nonclassified way. i think we have spent an entire generation of young people on a resource, our military in a certain area, and the ball has kept moving on what our mission is there, i think it would be good to hear our commander in chief, maybe some of our generals who have been there the entire time, or haven't been in there looking at it with fresh eyes, to see what the future looks like. what were the lessons from afghanistan? you shake your head, david. >> david: i'm thinking of joey jones and my son and people who were there, who suffered as a result of being there. i get emotional, because they deserve exactly what you say. these are the people, these are americans, the bravest americans there are. these are the heroes of the nation. don't forget about the people who served in afghanistan. our american marines and soldiers who suffered too many
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of whom died there. too many came back shouted in many ways. either externally or internally. they deserve exactly what you said. explanation as to what's going on. >> marie: that's a perfect way to talk about how we as the american people should learn about this. it's the members of the military who fought, it's their families, these organizations who support them. to think president trump should do some kind of a address, speak about how we might be ending this war? >> dagen: absolutely, to harris' point. i think i would like to see everybody, in service to the american people, people in politics, to shine a spotlight on those who are -- the families who have lost loved ones there. to do more in terms of whether it's going to walter reed. and taking camera crew along with you. do you think -- i think of the
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teenage years if we don't get out. because again you have to balance being there and not being there. what we are accomplishing by being in afghanistan, david. how do you make that judgment? >> david: of people who suffered and died in vietnam, if you remember those scenes from the embassy there, people flying off in helicopters and wondering what's going to happen. granted, we are 40 and 50 years later and we are dealing with vietnam. that's a wonderful thing. >> dagen: and a shout out to jean smith, the air cavalry helicopter pilot. i love him, i wanted to give him a shout out. >> marie: will be back , more "outnumbered" in just a moment. stomize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. what do you think?
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david ozment! >> david: one thing, i second marie harf's notion the president should not be -- >> melissa: we will go over to fbn after this. back here monday, now here's harris. >> harris: we come in with this fox news alert and some breaking news this hour, as well. the trump administration continuing to try and ease coronavirus fears as the number of cases rises again and the political battle over the response is raging. "outnumbered overtime" now on this friday, i'm harris faulkner. now we are seeing more than 83,000 worldwide, including nearly 3,000 people dead. here in the united states, there are at least 61 cases of the virus. that is the new number. about half of those are patients in the state of california. president trump and his coronavirus response team, vice president mike pence, say they have it under control. >> we
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