we will have more details tomorrow.ai we will always seek the truth, we will tell you the truth without fear. all the facts. let not your heart be troubled, laura ingraham takes it from here. laura. w >> laura: i have to ask rudy about that. there is other news, obviously the coronavirus and markets are the biggest news. that is our daily life now. but there is other news, the business of america at some point has to continue. thank you for that, i am going to ask rudy when we have them on in a few minutes.ic >> sean: laura, this country is the land of the free end the home of the brave. those are not just words. >> laura: we have to remember that these days. we have big challenges ahead ofs us, but we are a country that it's always prevailing and we will again. as people are rushing to stores to buy dog biscuits and food, they are panicking. it is going to be okay. food production is not going to cease in the united states, that is the one thing we can say. food production will continue. hannity, great show.

because we have great farmers. you just dig a hole, put a seed in it, cover it up with dirt. >> laura: also people have to laugh through difficult times, that also helps get through. family, faith, and laughter. sean, great to see you. i am laura ingraham and this ist "the ingraham angle" from washington the night. the left of course is up in arms over president trump taking pragmatic and practical steps against the coronavirus. plus, pelosi and her cronies are trying to push poison bill intoa an aid bill to fight the virus. lee zeldin and matt gaetz are all here, along with rudy giuliani. mollie hemingway, tom devitt, and raymond arroyo is also here. also new details on how long the virus can actually remain in the air. yes. we are going to tell you how you can protect yourself tonight. and the virus spread is changing the way we greet each other, interact with each other.

we have a special thursday edition of "seen and unseen,"" all coming up. but first, the number of people who contracted the coronavirusal continues to grow. more than 1600 americans now are infected, at least 40 have died. in other countries to numbers are far higher, 1,000 have now perished in italy. the numbers are going to continue to climb here, as more people do get tested. it is hard to meet an american whose life hasn't already been effected in such a short period of time by this virus. the response from the government, businesses, and wall street have rocked ourim world. there is no sugarcoating that. schools in america are closing, my kids have been out for a week, they will be out for the foreseeable future. k-12 in ohio and maryland, the first states to shut it down. colleges like georgetown, dartmouth, notre dame, ucla are all extending spring break or simply canceling class for the rest of the semester. 750,000 amazon employees are told they can work from home if

they can. congress and the white house ary also considering, and some cases, telework. the biden and sanders campaigns have closed some offices and told staff that can work from home. the outbreak has also ruined americans plans for vacation and other fun with family and friends. for the first time in 250 yearse including during world war ii, world war i, new york's beloved st. patrick's day parade postpone. this morning, i went to the giant to get dinner stuff for the kids. and not only were there no grocery carts, they're even out any ketchup. people were filling their cart with cases of water, dog food, and frozen pizza. is there a shortage on pepperoni and down? is there a run on flour and water? at least you are going to have sports to watch while you are

cooped with the kids. wrong. >> the remainder of the nba and now nhl seasons have been suspended. major league baseball has delayed opening day and canceled spring training. >> laura: those storiess continue to rack up. t there are some bizarre stories you may have missed, and aspen, colorado, they have ten coronavirus cases. the most concentrated cluster in the entire very large state of colorado. and some aussie tourists there who came into contact with this infected person are they are, and they are refusing to be tested. you can't force them to be tested, by the way. that gives them time to pull their lift tickets, maybe families are feeling pressured to cancel dance recitals, baptisms. a friend of mine had to postpone their wedding, i was going to it next week in new orleans, that is postpone. they drag on the economy, the market, it's a nightmare. the stock market dropped the

most since the crash of '87. >>the dow plunging almost 10%. and suffering its worst loss since 1987, and totaled the market have lost almost $3 trillion on the day. >> it was a blood bath in the market, not just today but in the last couple weeks. >> laura: while there have been some layoffs already,st jobless claims have dropped in march. that will likely change. so are the demands for more federal money. don't forget, this is election season. we are still in the middle of a presidential election. the democratic debate on sunday is still going on between sanders and biden. and the democrat machine just spent a lot of effort trying to kill off sanders, the whole campaign of bernie sanders because they said they didn't think a self-described socialist was electable. moderates like joe biden said he was too extreme for the american

people. but it turns out the party establishment as we see this coronavirus, aid package, and all the details of service, they are more comfortable with socialism than they are letting on. just look at what they are trying to cram down our throats from the guys responding to the viral outbreak. pelosi's coronavirus bill is full of socialist goodies. like ending work requirements for food stamps for everyone. mandating employers provide paid leave benefits even beyond national crises. taxpayers footing the bill for coronavirus tests for the uninsured, and in some deliberations, for the rest of the world. it is so bad that republicans are refusing to vote for it tonight. >> here is one glaring problem, under pelosi's bill the social security administration would be set up to administer the paid sick leave program. this would take more than six months, so it won't work in time. it also will hamper the administration from putting out social security for those who

need it right now who are in harm's way. this will hurt the very population that we are supposedp to be helping. >> laura: the democrats delayed the vote on the aid package as they continue to negotiate with the white house. pelosi this morning sounded very optimistic about working with steve mnuchin, treasury secretary saying he had reasonable points to be made. that seems to all come to a halt at some point during the day. much of what the democrats areat pushing doesn't deal with the crisis at hand, and only seems to in some cases set a floor for future government control and spending. in the end, this will be dealt with. at some point, this will be a memory, thank goodness, we hopeh it is sooner rather than later. but in the end, the average person is always asked to cough up more money in return they get less freedom. it is socialism by crisis. and there is no hiding it. nice try. joining me now, congressman lee zeldin, andy bigs, matt gaetz who joins us newly freed from

self quarantine after testing negative for the coronavirus. congressman matt gaetz, let's start with you. just before the show started, speaker pelosi said that in congress they are close to an agreement on the bill but apparently the vote was postponed. what do we know? >> hopefully, the agreement that our leadership is talking about does not include just a plus up in every democrat wish list budget item. i don't think we necessarily have to enhance the snap program to be able to ensure that we have testing resources and medical resources in the hands of those frontline medical professionals. we are not borderless europe, we are not informationless china. we should use the tools we have in our country, use the facts that the president has been proactive on travel ban's and

certainly i think you can reflect on the difference between the president doing everything he can to protect our country and the democratsy t literally bringing legislation to the floor this week to limit the authority of the president to have these national security restrictions on travel. they are going in the opposite direction. >> laura: here is what i got from one of her colleagues a few minutes ago, we are not voting tonight, here is what the democratic senate campaign put out. g.o.p. blocks emergency paid sick leave for moving forward. that is what they are trying to do, they are trying to frame the republicans as heartless, don't care, want people to starve in their homes, aren't going to give people a safety net during a time of global crisis. >> they are talking about permanent proposals too, they are not looking to just get through a crisis. they have priorities that they have been trying to get for a generation, with leadership of ireland. it's important for us to fight back, will we were in this negotiation in good faith, senator schumer goes to thee floor of the senate to try to w

call up a vote on the bill they got introduced late last night after 11:00 p.m.ca so will all these good-faith talks are -- we want to help them, we have ideas too, we cann make them feel better -- while we are doing this, they are going to the senate to try to jam it through. >> laura: i want to play through what nancy pelosi said about her hope to work with steve mnuchin and have good results. >> negotiating with secretary mnuchin, he has some suggestions all very reasonable. i don't think any of them would prevent us from moving forward with the bill. >> laura: this is not what they are putting out tonight.ld it is nice to say we are going to be above politics, we will not get down in the gutter, this is an opportunity to just shove everything you want. gutting the hyde amendment which is restrictions on funding abortion with government tax dollars, they are trying to work out. they are claiming republicans are putting abortion, hurting

abortion rights in this legislation. i read that and i said, oh, my gosh, do we have any reporters left in the world still?? >> take that rahm emanuel school that says never let a crisis go to waste. it is what they are trying to do, this bill has gone every which way they want. it's a billion dollars, it's getting into -- >> laura: so people understand what that means, taxpayer money could go to fund abortion. no restriction on that. >> that's exactly right, no restriction on that. they get into businesses, and say you will give seven days paid sick leave. that's only for hourly workers, with coronavirus.es if it's not hourly workers, they will get 14 days. and that's not tied to coronavirus at all. this is permanent. >> laura: this is whatat americans need to understand tonight, what the democrats are

floating is a permanent series of government control on american business. we are going to climb out of this chasm at some point, that is just what business is going to need on its back. >> all of the things wrong with corrupt washington, with last-minute deals and special interests getting their way. lack of transparency, none of that was removed when we had tod deal with the coronavirus. so you are seeing the very same things about washington, deals getting woven together at the last minute without debate and review in the light of day leading to a legislative work product that seems to be more of the democratic policye wish lit forever than a temporary focused response to the coronavirus. >> laura: the administration i bet feels like they are in a no win situation here. they are looking at people's pain about the markets, the

numbers are going up, obviously screwed up at the beginning. they are now fixing it, we will end up learning a lot fromusp . it's too bad we had to learn it this way. it is being done. we will get out of this. they don't want to be framed, any time especially in an election year. of course donald trump cares about this, he doesn't want to make the problem worse and long term for the american taxpayer. >> he was criticized for going too far with the restrictions on travel with china, he was criticized for going too far with the restrictions on travel to europe, i have seen it play out in new york. where i'm from, working with the state where they requested that they want to provide testing and state labs. they want to do the semi automated testing, okay approved. they want their private labs to be able to do testing, approved. i am seeing it close to homest where this administration has been working with our locals to deliver the resources and pursuing the vaccines, pursuing the treatments. they have been aggressive.

>> laura: they want some amazing things that aren't surprising, given the nature of politics today. a member of aoc's squad arianna presley spouted this nonsense to the cdc director during a house hearing. >> since beginning of the covid-19 outbreak, we have seen not only the spreading of the virus but also the rapid spreading of racism and xenophobia. we have witnessed at the highest levels in the republican party, irresponsibly fanning these flames. >> laura: raise your hand if you are responsible for fanning the flames. we are not only having to deal with the viral outbreak at the damage to the u.s. economy and real working americans who want to take care of their kids and go to work every day, we have to deal with this. this is infecting our public discourse and political discourse, that is poisonous. i'm sure there are bad apples,

but because someone is goofy enough not to go to a chinese restaurant, that is not racism, that is irrational fear. they went last week, it is irrational, not necessarily racism. >> exactly right. that is the playbook they are working from.th >> laura: it's a viral outbreak and they are still using racism and phobia. >> a spokesperson from theal chinese government today put out a tweet where he was blaming the u.s. military for planting the coronavirus in china. they are at a whole other -- >> laura: would they speak up against the chinese propaganda here? or is trump the problem, and china is the model? apparently a lot of this virus released, and handled the virus appeared i got it now, china is the model. it's great to see all of you, matt, i am glad you are out of quarantine. i am glad you not sleeping in

your car anymore., it's great to have you back on the show. the architects of obamacare had an extremely pessimistic prediction for how long the coronavirus could stick around. >> until we have immunity in the population, either by infection or by a vaccine, i think we are going to be in a serious, serious -- >> a couple of years? i was going to sick weeks, months, what are you saying? >> now, you are not going to get a vaccine proven for 12 months at the earliest, more like 16 or 18 months. you are not going to have enough immunity in all of society to keep this thing down. >> laura: joining me now, dr. ramin oskoui. and dr. amesh adjala, senior l scholar at johns hopkins university center for health security. all we really looking at a couple of years here? where people are freaking out?

>> i think we are not, i think we can say we will probably see it peek initially, probably late april or early may. we may see an uptick in the fall again but i don't think we're looking at at years. that is wishful thinking. >> laura: i think when you look at what is being said and felt by people, just regular everyday americans, they are still confused by this. there was such a rapid series of closures, catching everybody off guard. i think a lot of americans are trying to cope with their daily lives now, what do you say when you hear things like that from the guy who brought us obamacare? what is your response to this okay, get ready for two years of this where people are staying in their houses? >> i don't think that is the scenario that we are facing.

what we are facing is a new coronavirus that is in the human population. it is going to spread, we are going to have a peak in the fall, it is likely going to become a seasonal coronavirus. it is going to stick around, that doesn't mean it is going to cause intensity of an infection after that. it is going to be one of those coronavirus that we deal with. our real first wave, that is what we are worried about now. what is going to happen now, what will happen in the fall. th after that i think we will see w this came down and we will have a vaccine to tame it even more. that's a misinterpretation of the way he presented that, not an accurate way of thinking about the coronavirus. >> laura: that doesn't calm people's nerves, spouting off two years.ay there is now a new study out that says that the virus is more aerosolized than we thought. and it can remain on surfaces for days and days and days.n these are the kinds of things that people are hearing that is sending them into a panic. you can't get wipes, people are going into a frenzy.

>> i think the panic is a bit overdone, we have to understand that extreme social distancing certainly makes sense. excellent hygiene practices, bui panicking does nothing for us. i think it actually depletes resources for health care workers, and people who really need them. >> laura: do you think in the end that this is -- that it is a clue that we will ultimately get a vaccine for, did you get the coronavirus vaccine? some people say yeah, some people say no. >> previous sars vaccines have a problem, i think we are not going to see a vaccine this year. it just takes too long to go through human and animal trials. >> laura: the fda can speed that up, the collapse of the u.s. economy versus speed up the vaccine, which choice are we going to make? >> we did that with polio, we t made have to do that as well if we have a good enough vaccine. >> do you think we should do that as well that we should speed up any process of getting

a proper vaccine? we have a company in canada, one and israel, both saying they have the vaccine? tonight i was reading about this canadian company saying speed up the testing, we have them. >>i think we should pull out all the stops, all the red tape, and try to get a vaccine to clinical trials as quickly as possible. we don't have any vaccines, this will be something we need to test at least enough so we have an idea of how safe it is and that it actually works. i do think when you thing about manufacturing, and the whole world or the whole country, it is going to be a long lead time. 12-18 months to have enough to be able to vaccinate people. we are in phase one clinical trials right now, this is going very fast. i think this will be a record speed for a vaccine. it is still a long haul. >> thank you so much. great to see both of you tonight. and coming up, new york city mayor de blasio declared a state of emergency over the coronavirus. he is not the firstp, new york city mayor facing a crisis, rudy giuliani joins of

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♪ >> laura: new rochelle, new york was an unknown town to people who aren't familiar with the greater new york city area, that all changed when it became the site of the countries first coronavirus containment zone. so, what does that mean for the people living there? this is a new rochelle resident who is living under quarantine, she joins me now. why are you in quarantine, is it just a geographical thing? have you been tested? >> so i have been a member of i was actually a member of the

synagogue where i guess you would consider the community spread.id since we have as a community self identified as members who have been sharing a building with somebody who had the first positive case, as a result about 700 of us decided we are going to stay home. >> laura: do you know who that individual is and whether you ever walked past him or her? >> yes. >> laura: how is that individual doing tonight? >> my understanding is that they are definitely seeing an improvement. >> laura: it good, that's good. what are you able to do, are you able to leave your home? do anything or do people have to come to you and bring you food and mail? >> yeah, so quarantine is by definition we'd basically have

to stay on our properties. we cannot leave, we cannot go on the sidewalks. thankfully, we have an amazing, amazing community. we have been tremendously grateful of all the help of people in the new rochelle and beyond who have them to support us during these difficult times. >> laura: and you told a local station that you were afraid, at some point during this. what are you afraid of? >> it wasn't me, it is the perspective of other individuals. >> laura: you were describing other people are afraid. you seem like you are taking this, as we hope most people can take it. not in stride, it is not necessarily easy to be stuck in your home, but with all prudence and caution. when will you be able to actually leave your home? >> so, for me hopefully sunday. the perspective that i see is that people are coming to our houses, postal workers, they are wearing masks.

there is a lot of misconceptions about what is going on right now. basically maintaining on that social distance, it is not going through the air and that is where a lot of the fear is coming from. >> laura: it's a matter of dispute whether it is coming through the air, i think that's part of a new study that just came out. you take care of yourself, we a will check back with you. i hope you are out on sunday. i hope every buddy stay safe. you take care. as the number of coronavirus infections rise, mayor de blasio putting new york city into a state of emergency. >> in light of all those changing realities, it is time to declare a state of emergency in new york city where over 500 people would gather, parades, rallies, sports events, professional conferences, et cetera will now no longer have gatherings. i unfortunately suspect that will be a number of months. >> laura: my next guest leadus new york city through its last great crisis, september 11th. rudy giuliani, former new york city mayor joins me

now.ou great to see you. de blasio, it's a complex series of decisions you have to make. but he said months, is that the right move? >> on declaring a state of emergency, i wouldn't second-guess him. i am surprised that he hasn't been around for months the o president has criticized he was involved in this in december, de blasio was i guess sleeping which is what he usually does. the governor i actually wrote a note praising the governor for getting on top of this for five weeks ago, i didn't see de blasio at all. i held a press conference the, next day when we had a virus in new york city, on saturday and held a press conference every day until we got control of west nile virus. this guy is for five weeks late. is he right? he has the statistics, i will

not second-guess it. he doesn't know it is going to be months, that is it terrible mistake. you tell people the truth, and then you leave them with a sense of hope. tons of number 11, the worst day in the history, i finished it by saying the people of new york are going to come out of this, and they will come out of it stronger. that is after i honestly described to them how devastating everything was. that isn't a leader, that's a guy -- first of all, way too late -- he is running for the fire, and the fire has already destroyed half the building. everybody else has been there and he wants to get on it. just a simple mistake like that, for many months. it may be many months, it may be a few weeks.st a state of emergency is a very, very serious thing to do. >> laura: rudy, i think one of

our friends at spn said this yesterday. you do have to think long term while you deal with a short-term problem, you can't completely throw out the window the long-term implications of the precedent that we are setting in the united states every time a pathogen escapes from a foreign country. china is not necessarily our great friend, everything is going to shutdown in the united states.sc that is a weapon, that becomes a weapon in and of itself to someone with bad motives. that is what i am concerned about. >> it is one of the reasons i tried very hard to get new york city awake again right th after september 11th. i wanted to say to the t terrorists, you can't come heree we can take some risks. are not going to ruin our economy. there was a beautiful article in the daily news pointing out that i got broadway back two weeks faster than they want to do, i got them back for a specific purpose. they want making any money, buts they were performing every night

and eventually they all came back. yes, leadership requires giving people a balance. you have to give them what they need to be safe, but you also have to give them what they need to be realistic and hopeful. de blasio blew it in two ways, he is too late. >> laura: we made that point. i >> i know i made it, just a little more. >>laura: you're not on my radio show, this is cable-tv. rudy, they are saying this is worth the nine.a people like joe scarborough, people are saying, jon meacham saying that this could lead to a depression. >> how does he know that? >> laura: this is what is sending people to the grocery store to buy 100 pallets of water. >> there is no way to know whether it would lead to a depression, whether in some ways

there could be conflicting things that help the economy, money and health care and every thing else. a lot of people overestimated 9/11, i did. i overestimated the estimate. i didn't consider all of the relief work that was going to be done that pumped up the economyy and created jobs in other areas. these are predictions that are made from bias. not from intelligence. >> laura: we need transparency and facts and hope. and sometimes, every now and then some humor. i think we need that too. >> and a lack of pandering would be good. >> laura: rudy, thank you. good to see you tonight. up next, coronavirus has change the way people are interacting. novel new greetings emerging, we need some. raymond arroyo has all the detail in "seen and unseen" next.

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♪ >> laura: it is time for "seen and unseen," we we expose the stories behind the headlines. joining us now, raymond arroyo fox news contributor author of the amulet of power, soon in paperback. this coronavirus news is causing all kind of adjustments in the way we live our daily lives, unique ways of greeting each other. >> i have been amazed, laura, at how quickly people adapt and innovate in a crunch. realizing the coronavirus can be transmitted by touch, people have come up with non-hand touch

greetings. a here is nebraska governor pete ricketts doing the elbow bump, you have seen this everywhere. new york mayor bill de blasio's free styling his response, watch this. >> but nancy pelosi would be upset with that. all the fanatics better knock it off. >> when you elbow bump, you get close to the person. forget any physical contact greetings in eastern style bow. >> i started investigating, there are other means of greeting. president macron during the full namaste to say hello. a group of chinese men came up with something called the wuhan

shake. i call it the wuhan toe tap. this is fine laura, depending on where your feet have been. if i were walking through that wuhan what market i wouldn't be doing this, then there is this. the tibetan tongue thrust, it's a tradition where you stick out your tongue to say hello. since this baby is airborne, they say it can live for three hours in the air, you may want to keep your tongue to yourself. finally, if worse comes to worse you might consider this greeting from the 1970s. ♪ >> you make contact without germs. that is some german, i don't know what he was saying. i tried to read it. >> laura: people are desperate for laughter. they are desperate for any

relief. some political and health officials have been offering truly useless hygiene advice, as we prepare for the coronavirus. maybe it's useful, but it is overdone. aoc. >> i know it sounds banal, but one of the key parts to preventing transmission is washing your hands. and not touching her face. >> the meeting was declassified. >> it is hard to not touch your face, they are just totally unaware of how out of step with what they are offering the public is with what they are doing, this was santa clara county health official sarah cody who offered this advice. wait for it. >> start working on not touching your face, because one main way viruses spread is when you touch her own mouth, nose, or eyes. of course enhanced cleaning of services. >> you normally do that to flip the page, i get it.

this is going to be a big adjustment. for a lot of people, i am telling you it may present us with an opportunity. we will be cocooned together, that will lead to strife as it does at the holidays. you can read together, you can experience events on tv together, you can cook together. things you wouldn't normally spend that much time. >> laura: a friend of mine ander her husband were self quarantining together, and she messaged me, i can't tell you who it is. everyone knows her. and she said we actually are fine, we have a lot of fun together. we haven't spent this much time just puttering going to her oldo stuff, and she said we actually thank goodness they are healthy, but we actually enjoyed each other. if you don't like each other, -h >> get a second house or hotel room had a social distancing, you showed socially distance. >> laura: boundaries. >> boundaries, 3-6 feet usually

stay away from people. this is the pentagon adopting the practice at news briefings. look at this. it looks like they are all in the punished corner. these are the reporters. >> laura: how do you fly on planes? >> i guess you try to stay as far away as possible. i do that all the time, i am wiping down every surface. i am going to begin to give a good example by social distancing right now, i am going to take out my favorite wipe. and now i am going to social distance, you have a wonderful and safe week, laura. and joy wherever it you are going, or thinking of going. >> laura: i did go to the grocery store this morning. it was ridiculous. >> the anxiety, people are anxious. >> laura: people are getting pallets of water, people are tripping on them, i have never

seen anything like this. >> i spoke to a specialistat today, he said anxiety is one of the worst things. don't let anxiety in, and, having left, try to enjoy each other, anxiety releases cortisol which causes the immune system to falter. that can hurt you battling this virus. we need everything we can. >> laura: there will be a lot of family fights, a lot of babies will be conceived. raymond family uses the hands am lot, you talk things over. >> as long as we are not aerosoling one another. no elbow. coming up, the media disparaging trumps coronavirus measures. in a pathetic attempt, it is so obvious to prop up biden, but ie it working? hemingway, bevan way in next. ♪ eld. with safelite's exclusive resin,

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♪ >> based on favoritism and politics, rather than risk is counterproductive. this virus laid bare the severee shortcomings of the current administration. >> we have an administration whose incompetence and recklessness have threatened the lives of many, many people. >> laura: bernie sanders, joe biden, they are not letting this crisis go to waste. that was their response to trumps new measures against the coronavirus, and the media of course dutifully echoed those talking points. >> he set the stage for joe biden to walk in and look presidential.vi blaming europe for the virus coming into country, i think he is missing the mark once again. >> what does he accomplish by making this an outsiders problem? t >> classic trump distraction

tactic. >> mollie hemingway, tom bevan cofounder and president of real-time politics. does the media not realize how desperate all of that sounded? >> it is such an important time for us to be able to listen in to what people have to say, it is very serious that people take precautions. oft we have seen, he literally doesn't matter what trump does, they will be opposed to it. it has been this way for many, many years. people are going into this after experiencing the 2016 primary was like, and the generaly, election, and the russia hoax and kavanaugh and impeachment situation. every single thing that the president does is wrong, they hear that from the media. it is extreme hard to take them seriously. >> laura: i think to the extent that they have any credibility, which has diminished clearly, but think that they have any credibility doesn't add to anything except

more panic. and more concern. and more upset, and people are already losing a lot of money, and some people losing their lives and their jobs. >> it seems like they are encouraging that panic, you want people to be over prepared. you want them to be cautious. but you don't want to actually destroy the entire economy of the united states. i think a lot of these people who are protected, they think it would be fun to have this happen. >> laura: nothing is better than to keep a bunch of people in their houses and not allowed to go to work or sports event or what have you. tom bevan, there was another disturbing moment. this is from msnbc today, "the washington post" writer speaking up. >> the important thing for trump has been protecting around his alternative reality which is to say he has us completely under control. in chernobyl, when you had was a moment in which protecting the soviet state was the most important thing.

that caused people to die. >> laura: tom, you always have to tie in russia. you can't drop the russia. i thought it would be tough for them to bring in russia, but it is here. >> that was a new one, chuck todd said it was like the iranian hostage crisis, now it is chernobyl. look, the media has been out of control in the way that they have responded to what the president has done. has it been perfect? no. has there been missteps? sure. but if you look, i was looking back in 2009 to the way that they covered obama's handling of h1n1 bird flu crisis, it was nothing like this. i understand 2009 to 2020, different media environment. the metabolism is different now, but that doesn't excuse the way they have covered the story in such an outlandish fashion. especially as you compare trump's speech last night which

was perfectly fine and biden's speech today which was fine. they were both heavily scripted, using teleprompter's. the media is reporting as of trump's speech was a disaster and biden's speech was all presidential. it is outlandish.te >> laura: and now, you can't call the virus what it is. it entered into our country not from our country, as a foreignpr source and origin. but to say that, you are a racist. mollie, that is also where we have gone here in the conversation. >> it is so crazy, because for many weeks many people in the media network were calling it the wuhan virus. the moment president trump because of that, they say that it's racist. when you notice it, they are not even caring about how that hurts their credibility and how this is just really making it seem like it is not very serious. if you are wasting time talking about that, it makes it seem like maybe it is not as much of a threat as you want people to think. >> laura: they continue to prop up biden, this is what the party is going to do.. there was a moment after that viral exchange biden had with

the voter about the second amendment, that was aer viral moment. but this was the follow-up by reporter. watch. >> any regrets about how you handled that? >> i am surprised that sanders trump.ing it's surprising. >> laura: sanders is joining trump? any translation of that for us? >> some of sanders folks were promoting that and trying to imply that biden's temperament was off. they are still running the primary, bernie is still running so it is all wrapped up by them. again, you want to talk aboutt the double standard on coverage, if that same event had happened with donald trump liking the finger and swearing out of order, it would not have been brushed off. that is the way the media is treating this incident with joe biden. >> laura: no one talk about

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>> laura: food for thought tonight. according to "the new york times," chinese pharmaceutical companies have supplied with a 98% of u.s. antibiotic and key medicines, an expert warning if china shut down the export of core components that make medicines,

within months are shelves or be barren and our health care system would cease to function. that's not acceptable. something that both parties should takakakakakakakakakakakae shannon bream in the shannon: we begin with fox news alert. what is happening right now with the coronavirus pandemic capitol hill negotiators working around-the-clock. we expect a vote tomorrow. doctor anthony fauci calls this a failing, a new much more broad testing system will be fully in place within days it will hospitals be ready is the number of confirmed cases is guaranteed to climb. and another high-profile case, the wife of canadian premise to justin trudeau. the ncaa tournament canceled along with the players championship.