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theories, hoaxes and lies and we got it right. john solomon, great job. we'll always get the truth, we will have more tomorrow. laura ingraham live tonight, laura. >> laura: fantastic show, where up-to-the-minute with reports and what happened in the primaries tonight and the latest on covid-19. i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight, my angle is going to reveal what we still don't know about the coronavirus. why are there so many unanswered questions at this point? dr. anthony fauci is here from the white house with some answers. and you have heard the left's claim that trump got rid of the pandemic response office, tonight we have someone who lead that very office and he says the left as usual is lying. plus the trump administration
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has a third stimulus package in the works, where is all the money coming from? congressman devin nunes and lee zeldin are here to talk about it. we may be facing an imminent nightmare scenario at the border, a lot of people are talking about that because of the outbreak. we are going to explain how things are unfolding there tonight and how it could be happening there in a really bad way in the coming weeks. don't forget there are 2020 primaries, three states have primaries, schools are closing moments ago and arizona, we are going to bring you all the race calls as they come in. but first, the coronavirus continues to spread in the u.s. and across the globe. for the latest on this outbreak, let's go to the fox news west coast correspondent jeff hall who is live tonight in l.a. >> it's confirmed, all 50 states in the u.s. have cases of the coronavirus. up until now, west virginia was
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the lone state without a case. officials saying it was only a matter of time. the governor of nevada has ordered all nonessential businesses statewide to close for a month. all casinos and gaming operations will shut down effective at midnight. if so many businesses closing, president trump is trying to slow the impact of the coronavirus. the administration is expected to put forward a nearly $850 billion emergency economic stimulus proposal. >> if we do this right, our country can be rolling again pretty quickly. we will be standing possibly a piercing we won. >> in new york city, mayor bill de blasio urged new yorkers to prepare for a possibility for a shelter in place order, this could happen within days. governor andrew cuomo pushed back on the idea that saying he would need state approval.
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mayor bill de blasio wants city and state officials to make a decision in the next 48 hours. >> in terms of the economic dislocation, it's fair to say we are quickly going to surpass anything we saw in the great recession and the only measure, the only comparison will be the great depression. >> in chicago, the air traffic control towers at midway airport have temporarily been closed down after three technicians tested positive for the coronavirus. it is open and operations will continue. at a reduced rate. >> laura: thanks so much for that tonight. what we still don't know, that's the focus of tonight's angle. beyond the massive health implications, the wuhan pandemic has upended our lives and thrown our economy into a complete tailspin. let's review what we know and what we still don't know about the current outbreak.
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for starters, we know that covid-19 is the latest coronavirus to affect and kill people across the globe. we know what happened with other coronavirus outbreaks. in november 2002, sars -- or severe acute respiratory syndrome -- was discovered in southern china. it affected more than 8,000 people worldwide and had a death rate of 10%. no one died in the u.s. and it was largely over by july of 2003. the first case of and ers -- it spread through contact with camels and close person-to-person interaction such as caring for an infected person. more than 2400 were affected globally with more than 850 deaths, only two cases were ever found here. both in health care providers who had traveled to
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saudi arabia. the case fatality rate was approximately 35%. then there is the newest viral beast covid-19. so far, these are the stats -- the virus is an almost 150 countries and territories with nearly 200,000 affected, nearly a thousand deaths. in the u.s., we are just ramping up testing thank goodness and so far we have nearly 6300 infections and 105 deaths. we know most of the victims are elderly or otherwise infirm individuals. but there are many important questions about this virus that remain and the answers are going to tell us whether the mediation actions we have taken -- sheltering in place, what we're doing now -- were right or wrong. too much or too little. number one, the true mortality rate -- as the guardian reported a day we don't yet know how dangerous the coronavirus is and we won't know until more data
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comes in. estimates range from below 1% to over 14% among seniors or the medically compromised. here in the u.s. it seems the more we test, the lower the mortality rate, that makes everyone feel a little better -- that graph tells the story. number two, contagiousness. people are terrified they're going to get the disease by just walking by someone on the street or in the grocery store, going out to get milk and sitting next to someone in the doctor's office for just 5 minutes. dr. richard martin melo and infectious disease specialist at yale said there's still so much to learn about how this pathogen is transmitted between individuals. data is needed not only to better understand when those become ill shed the virus but also which body fluids contain the virus and how those may contaminate surfaces and even the air surrounding them. there was also an important
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study conducted by stanford researcher on the confirmed instance of the virus spreading person-to-person in the u.s. it was a woman in her 60s who returned to the u.s. from china in mid-january. of her 372 trace contacts, a study published in the lancet found that they have only detected transmission of the specific name of the disease, not the coronavirus we are talking about -- in a single household contact with frequent prolonged interactions with the patients. if out of three hunted seven to contacts, only one person who lived with her, her husband got it. why some people get sick and some don't. we don't know why some of those
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have only mild cold like symptoms why a significant minority of those affected may have serious symptoms at least in pneumonia and depth. one theory is that the severity of symptoms is linked to the strength of a person's general immune system. that's just one possible explanation. number four. patient is zero? we still don't know who the first patient was who contracted the virus in china. that's a key fact that a lot of researchers say is essential to the analysis of this disease. we first heard late december, then it was december 1st come on now reports to get all the way back to november 17th. this means that the coronavirus started spreading for weeks before the first cases were officially reported by china. that brings me to the question number five, trusting the chinese. as soon as word got out about
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this new potentially deadly virus, the ccp began to crack down on journalists for doing their job. "the new york times" reported in january when a group of hong kong journalists went to the wuhan hospital that took in most coronavirus patients, the police detained them for a few hours. they were asked to delete their tv footage and hand in their phones and cameras for inspection. today, china announced it was expelling american journalists from "the new york times," "the washington post," and "the wall street journal." they cited ideological bias against china, fake news made in the name of press freedom and breaches of ethics in journali journalism. china's motivation is obvious, it further allows them to deprive us and of their own people of real information, accurate information on what the heck is going on and what happened originally with its coronavirus.
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>> i regret china's decision to further close the world's ability to conduct prepress operations which would be really good for the chinese people. incredibly challenging global times, more information, more transparency are what will save lives. >> laura: speaking of saving lives, we don't know what the fate is of the two citizen journalists who disappeared last month after questioning the government's response to the virus, they are just gone. question number six, china's relationship with the w.h.o. remember china is cofounder of the world health organization and it provides an enormous amount of funding to it, they are now the second largest donor after united states. somehow they seem to be pulling all the strings. cnn is reporting the w.h.o.'s craze of china's response has
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led critics to question a relationship. perhaps one of the most overt examples of their sway over the w.h.o. is success in blocking taiwan's access to that body, a position that could have very real consequences for the taiwanese people if the virus takes hold there. when you hear of officials here or journalists, commentators lauding the chinese containment of the virus, take that all with a very large grain of salt. remember, we are wise to heed expert advice from trusted u.s. sources but we should also remember that there is a lot we do not know and a lot of information coming from china that we can't frankly trust. that's the angle. >> as you are trying to implement your interference with the virus, you may not realize it's still going up, what's
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going on? you've done nothing but you don't know whether it would do this versus that. it probably would be several weeks and may be longer before we know whether we are having an effect. >> laura: joining me now is the point man for the u.s. government's effort to fight the coronavirus, dr. anthony fauci, also director of nih national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. it's great to see you, you are working around the clock. we want to thank you for all of your efforts on behalf of the american people, i know it's an anxious nation and a worried nation. when i heard you mention several weeks before we know whether this social distancing -- we are all in our houses and businesses are closing -- does that mean we're going to be behind closed doors for several weeks, is that what you are saying? >> i didn't mean that at all. the person of question me wanted to know when we would have an
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absolute idea of what the effect would be and i can tell you, just projecting about what we know, what containment of mitigation does, we almost certainly are having an effect right now as we speak. the degree of the effect and how it's going to impact on that curve will likely take several weeks. that doesn't mean we need to be in the situation we are right now but as we said we put these mitigation strategies in for a 15 day. smack, we likely will extend beyond that but we really do reevaluate on the day-by-day basis. >> laura: parents across the country dealing with children at home and some of them out of work, it's hard to see after a few days people are going to be able to hold it together but maybe everyone is just spoiled. dr. fauci, another point about how contagious this is, in looking at a study about the patient to zero specifically one
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done by lancet, it says patient zero in the state of illinois only infected one person out of the 307 to people she came into contact with which begs the question, if that's the case, are people really getting the right information about how close you have to stand someone? or if you walk by someone on the street who is infected, should you be worried about getting it? it seems like in some of the studies i've read to, it really is close continuous contact. >> obviously there is low, medium, and high risk. if you have an individual that you are actually in physical contact with who was actively ill, coughing, you are at a high risk. an individual who you have casual contact with who is sick, that might be a medium risk. if someone is asymptomatic but infected and you walk into a room or you talk to them for a
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few minutes, that's a very low risk. we have to be careful we don't just bundle them all in one, there are relative risks depending on the exposure. it could be a little bit misleading to say one person had contact with these many individuals and he only infected one. that same person could be in a room in close contact if he was symptomatic, could infect two or three and that's where you get that number that people have been talking about. we better be careful we don't get misled to be too complacent nor misled to feel there is a higher risk than there is. >> laura: another question viewers keep emailing into me, if we know that the elderly and immunosuppressed are the most vulnerable to the higher mortality rates especially, why lock down healthy people and young people? they all want to go out -- why
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not socially distance the most at risk population instead of what we are doing now? i didn't have a good answer. >> it's an obvious good question, first of all as we said in the guidelines, it's important if you are a person that you just described, that person should essentially hunker down and self isolates. the problem with saying everybody else can go and do whatever they want to do is they get infected, it becomes inevitable that they will be at a risk. they will risk the individuals who are vulnerable because it's almost impossible to have complete lack of any contact with an individual but also you've got to be careful. just because the vast majority of individuals who are young and healthy don't get seriously ill, some do. i think as i pleaded at the press conference today, we depend on the young people to both protect themselves but also
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to assume the responsibility of protecting the vulnerable ones. it's a two part component, it isn't just sequester and isolate to those who are at risk, it's to get the rest of the population to shield them by not getting infected themselves and inadvertently affecting those individuals. >> laura: don't you think the flu as this moves forward -- eventually most of us are going to be infected with this virus, correct? >> is not the case at all. >> laura: it isn't, okay. we have to correct that because i have read that in so many reputable places that eventually the flu, we will all get it in some way and it will change over time. just like other types of coronavirus either ended or changed over time but flu everyone gets. >> that's not the case, this is
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a brand-new virus. we don't know how it's going to act. it might, and hit us and essentially could disappear the way sars did. it is so infectious that i doubt it's going to be a one off. it's likely it may cycle but we can't say that now. sooner or later, everyone's going to get infected, that is not a true statement. >> laura: it could potentially cycle back in the fall and then we would have to go into another period of small businesses going out of business, people going into lockdown? it's hard to see that our country can keep going through this and taking a third of the value of the u.s. economy every time china is sloppy with the handling of a virus. >> there are two things about that, i don't think we are going to have to go through the same thing as we are going through now, several things will be different. a certain segment of the population will have been infected so you get some degree
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of background immunity, probably not enough to protect the whole population by any means. by that time, we will have already completed some of the trials and variety of therapies. i said the vaccine will be available within the year to a year and a half, right now in the first phase one trial. hopefully we get enough information to be able to have that available. a lot of things can change, and we can have it available next season. >> laura: all of these different antivirals have been shown fairly promising in the early trials, are those the type of trials for treatment that you're looking at? >> we have to be careful that we don't assume something works
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based on an anecdotal report is not controlled. i refer specifically to hydroxychloroquine. there's a lot of buzz out there in social media. some of the studies were not controlled. if we are going to do, secretary of hhs has asked me at nih, steve han at fda to take a look at all that data, analyze it and make the decision what is the best way forward. more clinical trials, we will look at the data very seriously. >> laura: thank you so much for joining us tonight, we appreciate it. parents and workers and people who are worried about their family want all the information they can get, thanks so much. >> good to be with you. >> laura: for weeks, the left has tried to undermine president trump by spreading fear and panic about his handling of the coronavirus.
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that includes this talking point. >> the national security council used to have a global health team specifically to deal with pandemics like this. president trump shut it down years ago. >> he got rid of the white house's entire global health security team. >> for some reason president trump eliminated that office two years ago. >> laura: everything you just heard was a lie. here's the proof. in this op-ed by former nsc official tim morrison, he said the white house didn't dissolve its pandemic response office. i was there because i let the very directorate assigned to that mission. for a year and then i headed off to another official who still holds the post. i know the charge is specious. tim morrison who is now a senior fellow at the great hudson institute joins us now, it's great to see you. do we know from whom this false claim initially originated?
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was it your predecessor? >> i can't say where it originated from but i think it's unfortunate claim that distracts us from where we need to be paying attention. >> laura: what do the american people need to know about this given the fact that they have heard other lies told about the trump administration's response and they get repeated and repeated. what do we have to know about the office as it exists now, we do know nsc has been drastically cut in its number of staffers which i think is smart from the obama, the bush, to the obama, to now. >> i think the thing the american people need to know there are some of the leading specialists in the country if not the world, they are at their desks and they are going to be there tomorrow. they have the very best talent available to get ahead of this crisis.
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you just had one of the leading experts on your show immediately before me, the best people are working on this. if anybody can get a hold on this, the united states can. >> laura: the amazing thing is that they are actually also saying that tony fauci doesn't really have any power. he has no power and trump doesn't listen to him which fauci himself has said that's ridiculous, we are in constant communication, the entire team with the president, the vice president running it but that is just another example of how they are trying to smear this effort. i want to share something with you, this is the former obama administration official i think you started this all. she claimed her position was done away with, watch. >> you were a senior director for global health at the national security council through president trump. they limited the position. >> would we have gotten ahead of
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this? i think absolutely. during the obama administration, during the crisis in 2014, a day did not go by when the security advisor didn't ask how are we doing on rapid tests, what are we not thinking about, where are we on personal protective equipment, we would've been able to get ahead. >> laura: what's your response to that? >> in my time at the nsc, we drafted for the president of the national bio defense tragedy, we drafted an executive order to modernize how we handle annual influenza which kills tens of thousands of americans every year and we have a fight against ebola and the democratic republic of the congo, probably the toughest place on earth we've ever had to deal with an epidemic like that. there was a constant signal from the president and ambassador bolton and we should be proud of the effort the united states led to conquer ebola in the congo, which we did. this is a different kind of
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epidemic. when we dealt with ebola in the congo, we had a government that cooperated -- we know that's not the case with the communist party in china. they are hiding information from us, they are selling this information, we've seen this playbook from them before. they want us to fear each other, and distrust each other. they want to undermine our faith in our government. we can get a handle on this virus, listen to dr. fauci, listen to dr. redfield, listen to the president, the time will come to figure out what we could have done better but i really hope we all stand together and figure out how can we conquer this disease as quickly as possible. >> laura: what's amazing is a lot of the journalists as they see their own colleagues being expelled from china are still so willing to take the chinese line on this, on how it started, where it started, whether or not they were forthcoming and as far as i can tell, we still don't have individual american researchers in there, on their
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own able to observe what's happening in china. >> that's exactly right, the chinese are using the chinese communist version of whatsapp, they are using it to deny information from their people -- this is a monumentally corrupt illegitimate and insecure government. they do everything they can to hide information from us. we saw this in 2003 as you showed it in the opening of your show and we've seen it today, they are hiding information from us, hiding information from their people. we need to understand what it means to live in a world where the chinese communist party controls our access to basic medicine, controls our telecommunication systems -- >> laura: that's got to end. influence in the w.h.o., they are hand in glove with whatever china says. it's ridiculous and the president should call it the wuhan virus in the chinese virus
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or the foreign virus if they're trying to smear our people and our government with having created it and it's accurate just like we called it the middle eastern respiratory syndrome, that was defining it as originating in the middle east. thank you for clarifying, thank you so much. coming up, the white house unveils a massive stimulus package today but what's in it? and will it work? congress meant devin nunes and lee zeldin will break it all down when we return.
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>> laura: pulls closing in a few moments, and arizona which is one of the three states with democratic primaries tonight. voters in florida and illinois also cast their ballots. let's check in with shannon bream, host of "fox news @ night." >> arizona, florida, and illinois all closed. the fox news decision desk is saying former vice president joe biden with an early lead against vermont senator bernie sanders but we are ready to make a call. our decision desk can project he will beat sanders in florida, that is a big prize. 219 delegates. we are projecting biden will take illinois which had 155 delegates up for grabs. ohio you know had a primary today, there's not going to be a
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call there, it got booted into june. faced with victories on super tuesdays one, two, and three, he is on pace to win the nomination. >> laura: thanks so much. >> a thousand dollar tax to every american, would you support that go into everyone or some sort of income restriction on who gets a check? >> we are going to do something that gets money to them as quickly as possible, it may not be an accurate way of doing it, some people should be getting checks for a thousand dollars and we will have a pretty good idea by the end of the day what we are going to be doing. >> laura: is sending americans unrestricted cash really the best way to deal with this crisis? may be, maybe not. it is being considered as part of the white house's proposal for a -- are you sitting down? $1 trillion stimulus package that reportedly may include
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$250 billion more for direct payments to americans. this is something republicans on capitol hill can support? joining me now or two g.o.p. congressman, devin nunes and lee zeldin. let's start with you, that is a gargantuan price tag. i keep thinking of where this problem originated in china and everyone i talked to is getting more and more infuriated that our economy is being hobbled, americans are being upended in their lives because of what china did. now we have to spend our way out of this, is that where we are? >> this is the issue and i heard you talk to dr. fallac fauci. in china, we can't trust any of
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the numbers, we still don't have good data as to who's getting sick, one of the symptoms and one of the best ways to treat it? that is the travesty, as we move forward, the question in the macro sense if we keep people laid off, it's going to depend on whether this goes two weeks, a month, or two months. and i think that's how you have to look at it and how do you make that people have enough to provide for their families when they are thinking about necessities. that's what you have to look at. >> laura: that there's been a lot of back and forth over this deal with the payroll tax. there are a lot of conservatives pushing payroll tax cuts and they just decided they aren't going to go to that, the money has to go right to people really fast. what is your take on that? >> when you give someone a
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thousand dollars back in a situation like this, you are giving people money that essentially they pay to the federal government. it's one thing to be engaging in wasteful spending where you're starting to see subsidies and money spent on pork and pet projects -- i'm concerned about our nation's debt, i'm concerned about the deficit, i also want to see that all of the americans from coast-to-coast who are going to be going through tough times not really of their own doing, the coronavirus hitting our country, government engaging in the policies. >> laura: we know that's going to happen and it's happening it is terrific. the question is the medicine for the economic collapse, there is concern that the medicine is going to kill the economy meaning it's going to do -- i'm
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throwing that out because we have to ask these questions now. we have to actually know what is in these bills before they are passed through congress. a lot of people i'm talking to said they haven't even been able to read the legislation, there is no legislation because six people are writing it behind closed doors. the devil is in the details, correct? >> correct, it's going to be important to to see with the product looks like. we all should have the opportunity to read the bill. if i'm not expecting the final product is going to be one that is perfection, i don't know if i can set the standard on that. you and i have been watching this for too long but we don't want to see wasteful spending and we can't afford to miss fire on this bullet. if you're going to spend a trillion dollars, if that's going to be the cost of this bill and it doesn't work, you don't just have like another trillion dollars, you can't keep
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going back to that. >> laura: moreover, congressman, every time china plays loosey-goosey with a pathogen, we cannot shut down our economy. we can't allow this to keep happening to the american people, i'm talking to families out in maryland, they don't know what they are going to do. these are good, strong people but they work in the restaurant business and they are like this is painful, we aren't going to survive this if this goes on for several weeks to june or may. businesses aren't going to be able to survive. >> one of the things i have been harping on the last few days since i have been back here on the ground in california is the hoarding and the lines of the grocery stores. up until today, we still had a lot of restaurants that were open and they could have met some of those needs for people that needed food.
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now i'm just on my way here, most of the restaurants are shuttered in my area. this is not a good situation at all and people are going to be hurt. that's why i go back to what i said -- everything really rests on where are we at with the people who are getting sick -- two weeks? i think we can handle. if it starts to go longer than that and we don't have good data with people getting sick, we are going to have bigger problems. >> laura: to either of you think the country is going to be able to stay behind closed doors until may 15th as dr. emanuel was saying? this could be may 15th or jun june 1st. it's not going to work.
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>> i'm very optimistic. i think there's a good chance we could get through this in the next couple of weeks and for sure by easter because we will have a handle on who's getting sick and how to treat them. that's what i'm focused on now. >> laura: i got to get to this because i mentioned this in my angle, i've got to get zeldin in on this -- china, where the whole thing started is now kicking journalists out of their country and when they aren't doing that, they are saying we created this virus. here's what the government said today -- in response to the u.s. slashing the staff side of the chinese media in the u.s., china demands u.s. citizens working with the times, the journal, and "the washington post" hand back there press cards within ten
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calendar days, they won't be allowed to keep working as journalists and the people's republic of china. they are saying you started it, congressman zeldin and my question is when will the media finally stop parroting beijing's propaganda? after this happens to their own journalists. >> they need to do it right now, it's a lie. my background is in the military, i still serve as a lieutenant colonel in the army reserve. it's offensive to see the chinese government communist party blaming the united states military for bringing it to china. comparing people who are operatives of the communist party in china who serve here to journalists from american media outlets, that is apples and oranges. if you don't see the united states government removing people from "the new york times" and "the wall street journal" and
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these others, the president isn't -- you still have a seat inside the press room for jim acosta and other personalities who are there and aren't honestly reporting. >> laura: i think back to nunes' comment, you can't trust what china is saying about how this virus is transmitted or the treatment. france and spain, u.s. researchers who are doing great research about antivirals, they seem like they are amazing and i hope they get fast tracked. trusting china in all this? every time the president says the great work of china, my head blows off my shoulders. we rely on them for antibiotics so we can't defend china. this whole situation with china has got to be re-examined and we shouldn't be shuttering in place, china should be shuttering in place tonight.
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issued by obama and judicial appointees and it blocked the trump asylum rule. those injunctions were upheld by the ninth circuit. last week, the u.s. supreme court overruled the injunctions meaning asylum-seekers will have to stay in mexico to await their immigration trial. as the global pandemic spread, mexico is going to face its own internal pressures and cooperation could start breaking down. the president was asked about the situation of the border today. [reporter questioning] >> i don't want to say that but we are discussing things with canada and discussing things with mexico. the relationship is outstanding with both, we just signed our deal, the usmca and the relationship is very strong. >> laura: let's hope they remain so but it's not beyond conception that literally thousands will rush into mexico and tried to get into the
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united states seeking medical care in the wake of this pandemic. free medical care, when they come here, they get free care. mexico may well have to -- finally, they should do this, seal the southern border, they should seal it shut to stop the flow of aliens driving north. the trump asylum policy were suddenly stopped, some 25,000 individuals sent to mexico would rush immediately to the united states and that is even before factoring in the pandem pandemic. each day about 1500 people currently across the southern border outside of the normal border entry point and that number is going to skyrocket as this crisis goes on. the president does have some options, the national emergency act gives him the ability to declare an emergency at the border, this is separate from what is happening now with the other provisions that he's
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taking for hhs. there's a lot of different emergency powers he can an act but can actually order the border sealed and the policies in place to protect the health of americans and border agents. so what impact could a prolonged pandemic have? and what should we do next? for answers, we turn to brandon judd, a current border patrol agent who has been working on the front lines for 22 years. i want to remind everybody that last year, the trump administration pushed an executive order that would have prevented individuals from coming into the united states and claiming asylum in between regular border entry points, that makes sense, right? we don't want people to be able
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to swim across the rio grande as we saw when we were in del rio and claim asylum. that causes all sorts of problems. of course it was enjoined as i mentioned by federal judges all appointed by obama -- guess what, we now have to fight this in court. how deleterious was that a series injunctions to the effort to get this border under contr control. >> it was horrible, those injunctions when you look at what we are currently facing come of this pandemic -- not just the pandemic, we have to go back to the crisis and smugglers bringing in children for sex trafficking and the illegal acts they make. for judges to enjoin the protection protocols, a groundbreaking deal with any of president trump's predecessors would have loved to have had -- cooperation, finally cooperation from mexico and to have two judges enjoin that in agreement,
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it was horrendous for the country and horrendous for border security and horrendous for the safety of the american people. >> laura: in enacting a different part of the national emergencies act and using all sorts of different aspects of it -- choosing not to shut the border down, we can still screen people, cargo can come through as long as it's checked in the usual course. this would be important for the president to be able to do. i foresee this, as time goes on with the crush we are seeing in mexico right now, this could put the health of our border patrol agents in jeopardy and further work toward a collapse of our health care system, especially in california, and texas, in arizona, and florida. that's what we have to prevent. >> absolutely, if you look at
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border patrol agents getting sick with a coronavirus, it's going to spread from there. we have families, children and interact the communities. >> laura: did we lose him? i can't hear him. if granted can hear me, you are making great points. let me just say about this. it is insane, when we are asking americans to shelter in place that we don't do everything in our power to close irregular points of entry, that means walking across the border, claiming asylum -- it's insane that we don't use all of our powers to protect our citizens, our hospitals, our health care infrastructure -- we don't have enough respirators for american citizens let alone for people coming across the country -- my across the border from other countries, can you hear me now? >> i've got you.
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>> laura: this is why skype is so much fun, i can't hear him. can you hear me? >> yes, i can hear you. >> laura: that's life to become of this is what happens. brandon, thank you, sorry we didn't get to hear everything you said, that is food for thought. what we can do to keep americans safe and our health care system, not any more overburden than it already is. when we come back, we promise we are going to say this other tidbit from dr. fauci, he's going to tell us what the biggest unknown is still with the coronavirus, stay there. of respiratory diseases. wash your hands. avoid close contact with people who are sick. avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth. stay home when you are sick. cover your cough or sneeze. clean and disinfect frequently touched objects with household cleaning spray. for more information, visit cdc.gov/covid19. this message brought to you by the national association
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>> laura: i told you some of what we don't know about the coronavirus in my angle but here's what dr. anthony fauci told me is his biggest unknown about it. >> the biggest unknown right now is the fact that since it is new, it relates to the question you just asked me, what is going to happen with it ultimately? it's starting to do it now in korea, we need to get through this by the mitigation and containment recommendations and guidelines that we made. what we don't know is what's going to happen next year. is it going to disappear or is it going to come back and a milder form which i think likely would happen if it does come back but right now we don't have an answer to that question. >> shannon: i want to say that
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given all the heartache and difficulty and loss that our country has faced over the last several days, we need to pray in the country and be strong as the american family. that's all we have tonight, shannon bream takes it from here. >> shannon: thank you so much, we b begin with a fox news aler, many places shut down tonight is the tip of the economic iceberg. steve mnuchin working on a relief package as the president predicts enoug an economic boom. lawmakers are looking for ways to support american workers and companies through multiple pieces of legislation. claims tonight that the white house has adjusted its strategy based on the british report projecting a worst-case scenario here in the u.s. as the task force said the

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