partying. we've been waiting for miami spring break for a while, about two months we've had this planned. two or three months. whatever happens, happens. >> sean: here's the problem: i know you are excited, spring break, you want to have fun. i want you to have fun. it isn't about them. it is about everyone else. all right, by the way, we are out of time. we are late by ten seconds, so rare for me. i'm so sorry! i apologize. it is so wrong for me. >> laura: hannity, looking at the spring breakers, first of all, i never did that. i never went on spring break. i sound really boring. did you ever go on anything like that? or were you working the road crew? a painter? what were you, a roofer, garbageman? you are blue-collar, that is why i love you. you never went down there to panama beach. >> sean: i paid for every college course i took, paid every penny, and works full

time. i did everything in restaurants, ten years, construction, ten years, and i am proud of my roots. >> laura: it makes you who you are. you are just like me. >> sean: my father worked as a waiter. >> laura: okay, all right. this is not "this is your life." >> sean: you sound like my kids. that's how they react. dad, not again, stop. >> laura: hannity, great show, great information, as always. we will talk to you tomorrow. i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle." tonight, the corona virus infecting more than 8,000 americans now, as more are being tested, leaving more than 115 people dead. hhs secretary alex azar is here with the latest on what the administration is doing to contain this virus. but we are inching towards an economic crisis, or are we already there? what is going to happen if we handle all of this wrong and all of this, in retrospect, looking back on it maybe six months or a year from now, maybe was way overboard? and is the left using the

coronavirus as an excuse to push its radical social agenda with criminal justice reform? bernie kerik is here on that. also ahead, "seen and unseen," we need a little of that, with raymond arroyo, on the political news you are not hearing and how we are adapting to life in quarantine. my "angle" is coming up in just a moment, but first, we return to bill hemmer, host of "bill hemmer reports" for the latest on the coronavirus outbreak. bill, what is the latest? >> good evening to you. we try to have a series of numbers on a little story of what we are seeing out here. this is the u.s. map here. as of about five or six hours ago, we have 7,374 cases in the u.s. just watch this number, laura, okay? two weeks ago today, 149. in 14 days, we got 7300 cases. over here, new york state, hit the hardest, 2,480 cases. two weeks ago, new york, well --

hang on one second here. that's not going to go that way. two weeks ago, we were down around 2,000. today, that number is on 2100. i want to take you across the room. we've been watching this chart the last five days, so the viewers at home know, what you are looking at is the cases in china that have run the last two months. see how it flatlined there? there was talk about how we are trying to achieve that. this is the number of recovery cases in green. that's a really good sign. i like to see that. the yellow line is cases and countries everywhere around the world except for china, and laura, that is the graph that is heading up. we want to see this thing a little bit to the right even more so and flat. i will try and zero this out. 30 minutes ago, our latest update. we been watching this website. 9:33 eastern time, 270,000 cases globally on the map. about 8700 deaths, and the total recovery mark is 84,000.

again, we want to see that go higher and higher. italy was really smacked they. they came out with a number that will blow your mind: 470 people in one day died as a result, mostly in northern italy. iran has been hit very hard, as well, they came with a number close to 150 dead. now they top more than 1100 in iran alone. to give you some good news in this, okay, as we crunch these numbers and look at this map, try to figure out how it changes throughout the day, and it literally changes by the hour. here in the u.s., over 9,000 now. even that data i showed you at the beginning of this report, laura, it's old. 9,000 total confirmed, 145 deaths at this hour, but this is what i want -- this is what i want you to think about, laura. we have 106 cases recovered in the u.s. that's the first time since watching this particular website in five days that the u.s. has had any green numbers on the recovery mark. that means you've had two days of negative tests or out of this

quarantine and you are said to be okay, free, and clear. we will watch this number in the coming days and weeks as we go. back to you, laura. >> laura: bill, the numbers sure are changing. my goodness, just from the beginning of the show. thank you so much. >> sure. >> laura: relief and reckoning. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." over the past few weeks, i've heard from some of the smartest medical mines in america about both the nature of this hideous virus and the most promising treatments that are currently under investigation. because other countries have been dealing with this longer and on a larger scale, some of them are head of us on finding the best drug treatment bureau on monday, i told you about two of them. the antimalarial drug chloroquine and its sister hydroxychloroquine, manufactured by sanofi labs. today it was brought at the

white house press briefing. >> researchers have had some luck with hydroxychloroquine, and shortening the duration of disease. is not something that might be in the arsenal of therapeutics in the united states? >> i think we are exploring every one of those issues. there are things that look really good against the virus, that may look good in small animals, and then don't have an impact in humans. of course, there's always anecdotal reports, and we are trying to figure out how many anecdotal reports equally real, scientific breakthroughs. >> laura: i'm not sure what she meant by "anecdotal," but the round french researcher and infectious disease specialist didier raoult was tasked by the french government to look into cures for covid-19 and he described his results yesterday as promising. good news. any video posted on the internet, he said that the first batch of 24 covid-1 covid-19 pae had treated with the drug chloroquine had seen a rapid and

effective speeding up of their healing process and a sharp decrease in the amount of time they remain contagious. yes. china and south korea, the countries hardest hit with covid-19, they have already developed guidelines for physicians who are prescribing the use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. as treatment options. it's not just in animals and in the lab. chloroquine was chosen after china did several screening rounds of thousands of existing drugs. chloroquine is undergoing further trials and more than ten hospitals there now. whatever the president has to do to cut red tape and bring clear treatment options such as this -- and also preventative -- to americans, he needs to do it. and i bet it is coming soon. which brings me to my next point: demanding total cooperation and openness from china, or else. in a pandemic, it is essential

that our health experts work cooperatively with other countries and that we all share data and findings about the disease as we try to stop its spread. all over the world, wonderful and brave doctors -- i've been able to talk to some of them -- who are treating covid-19 patients, are posting their findings online, you can read some of them in chat rooms where the doctors are talking to each other. it's fantastic. but we need the chinese government to give us total and complete access to all their scientific data, including, by the way, the findings of doctors who first studied and discovered the virus. some of that information was apparently destroyed. we want to find it. we want it back. we want to know everything about patient 0. we want to know everything about the true recovery rate, the true mortality rate, including those who were locked in their apartments and left to die in wuhan. and if china isn't willing to work with us, think about this, in defeating this pandemic come

in ensuring that something like this never happens again? look at what happened to the american people today. stock holdings, 401(k)s, many people losing their jobs. think about this. if you are not operating in total transparency regarding this disease, then we have to ask ourselves why we want to continue to be integrated with them at all, on any issue. we have nothing against the chinese people, just like we didn't have anything against the russian people during the cold will or, but president xi and his bureau have to come clean or we need to reconsider -- consider, frankly, taking severe measures against beijing. we need a new industrial policy, made in the usa all the way. if they don't come clean, we have to revoke china's most favored nation status for trade, ban chinese investment in the u.s. we have to strictly limit chinese travel to the united states. and by the way, forget that

second phase of the trade deal, we have to add tariffs. that should get their attention, don't you think? not only has china thus far refused to allow our top medical official access to all the data, all of the hospitals, although premier researchers, they are kicking out our journalist! who are actually there trying to report the truth about what happened, going back to november, december, january, and what didn't happen. "the new york times" reporting that the chinese government cast its expulsion of the journalists as necessary to defend beijing against what it perceived as an ideological campaign are the united states to impose its values on china. yeah, the value of truth. and yet, despite all of this, despite what has happened, despite how awful this has gotten for people all around the world, and of course here, somehow, somehow, there are american journalists who are still fretting about china's

feelings. >> why do you keep calling this chinese virus? why do you keep using this? >> it comes from china. it's not racist at all, not at all. it comes from china. it comes from china. >> a person at the white house uses "kung flu." >> in talking about china, you've been clear about who you think the blame or where you think the very know my claim is for this fire is -- >> i know where it came from. it comes from china. it's not a question about that. >> laura: good for trump. oh, and when we are not worried about the virus' nomenclature, we apparently want to help the economy of the country responsible for our national nightmare. >> looked, china is paying billions and billions of dollars in tariffs and there's no reason to do that, but we are getting billions of dollars a year from

tariffs in china, and i can't imagine americans asking for that. >> laura: yeah, well, the question was -- people are telling me to take your tariffs on china now. shouldn't you do this, given -- unbelievable. look at how much time was lost because china covered it up at the end of last year, covered up the virus. they threatened doctors, refused to allow independent medical teams into assess the situation. in its handling of covid-19 -- and this is going to sound tough, but china has blood on its hands. one recent study found that if china had implemented its control measures a week earlier, it could have prevented 67% of all cases there! implementing the measures three weeks earlier, from the beginning of january, would have cut the number of infections to 5% of the total. and yet, the w.h.o. wants everyone to think that, what, we are supposed to fawn over

china's containment efforts? that's ridiculous. we cannot sit by and let our people have their lives threatened, our entire economy devastated, not by a contagion that originated in china, a country that fuses to allow the nih unfettered access. i was making about this today, first of all, how blessed i am to be able to have a job and keep working during all of this, and to have all of you watching every night. have my health and my family's health. but i thought about the millions and millions of americans who work there butts off every day and see their dream -- their dream -- of having a retirement someday, put their kids through college, vanished because of this virus. much, if not all of this, could have been avoided if china had only been forthcoming from day one. my friends, this cannot stand. and that is the "angle." joining me now is someone who has been dealing, of course,

with the coronavirus since it hit our shores two months ago, health and human services secretary alex azar. mr. secretary, thanks for joining us tonight. we have been talking about this drug, hydroxychloroquine, for three days now. i first introduced it on the air on monday. also its sister drug, chloroquine. what can you tell us about the administration's ability, perhaps, at some point soon, to fast-track more trials here in the united states, as they have done in france and china? >> well, laura, you have been great about calling attention to this drug as well as all kinds of other measures we can take. let me just assure you, president trump is absolutely adamant that we leave no stone unturned and bring therapies, cures, vaccines to the american people. and he is going to make sure that even drugs on an experimental basis get available to the american people. you know, this is the president, remember, who brought us right to try when it comes to drugs.

he is going to take that same kind of attitude when it comes to potential therapies and making them available to the american people. i can assure you of that. >> laura: it's also a really cheap drug command at least hydroxy doesn't have the same side effects as chloroquine doe. there's also been an amazing story, today, yesterday, out of italy, where the small town, mr. secretary, was able to completely stop the spread of the virus. here is what one of the experts involved in the study set about it. "we able to contain the outbreak because identified and illuminated the submerged infections and isolated them," said them of the approach. given the fact that testing seems to really give people a better sense -- obviously, infected, but people who are in a symptomatic, even. what can you tell us tonight about our ability to ramp up these tests and the reagent, mr. secretary, that a lot of these drug labs are saying they

don't have enough of? >> well, loretta, that's why from the early days we've actually encouraged the states, local governments, public health labs, but most importantly the private sector, the clinical labs in america, to get drugs, get these diagnostics developed, and to get them out there. and now, they've got millions of these tests they are producing, they are working to get them out there, and what we are trying to do is actually help facilitate states with getting the people connected to those tests, to make it easier to get tested in the united states, get you faster results, so we can get that visibility. we've been on this from day one, trying to get the states, local governments, and private labs engaged, removing regulatory barriers, anything that stands in the way, we have been working to get rid of. one of the important things, as we think about that italian village, the imperial college, which has some of the best modelers in the world, one thing that they found, the single most important intervention that we can take on mitigation is

actually if a family member is sick, all other family members staying home for 14-day period while that individual is sick. >> laura: right, you have to know -- mr. secretary, the problem is a lot of people, may be most of the people who have eight are a symptom addict, and yet they are passing the disease where the virus on. we are not testing people asymptomatic, which we are not, then how do you contain it without locking down the whole country and destroying the economy for the next couple months? >> laura, that is why as early as february 13th i called for including the test as part of the broad panel of scans that we do come along with flu scanning, for anybody when we are testing, that could give broad surveillance, we called on cities and states to implement that kind of broad surveillance. we agree. we want to have as quickly as the private labs and the state and local labs can get testing of broad scale, we want to get

as broad a scale testing as we can get in the united states. we agree. >> laura: "the washington post" tonight, mr. secretary, is reporting a shortage of ace masks, swabs, and basic supplies, posing a ner number of tests they actually do have because they need to use these things in order to carry out the tests, if they do have the reagent and everything you need. is that the federal government's responsibility, to make sure states have swabs -- we want everyone to have everything they need, but i think people, you know, misunderstand what the feds provide and what the states are also supposed to have come am i getting that right? >> no, laura, you know, you've got it absolutely right. we have a strategic national stockpile, but that is for, like, a hurricane, a small dislocation. that is about $500 million a year of product. mostly smallpox vaccines, botulinum antitoxins, bioterrorism countermeasures in

there. the private sector of medical and surgical materiality in the united states is $1 trillion. that is why the president today authorize the defense production act, so that we can work with the private sector to actually help allocate the trillion dollar supply, get them allocated so they go where they are needed most, not just where they happen to be stored or hoarded. we've got a lot of supplies in this country. they just may be in the wrong place. >> laura: yeah, well, they are killing you guys tonight. this is "the washington post," so i always take it with a grain of salt, but they are killing you, saying the cdc told the states that if you run out of face masks, use a bandanna. but be careful with how you use a bandanna. they are going crazy about that. the cdc -- someone at the cdc, i guess, in a pinch, if you don't have a face mask, i mean, you are dealing with this every day, right?

because people are freaked out and they want reassurance that this will end, and they want to know if they really need a test, they can get a test. when are we going to see those drive-through testing capabilities that are easy, from your perspective, sitting in the federal level, at the state level? >> the president has been driving a whole government approach here, to help the state and local governments and labs do what they need to do, which is set up this kind of convenient drive-through ways for people to connect up with the test. you shouldn't just have to go to the doctor or the hospital, we ought to make it easy. we don't want sick people, potentially sick people, going into these health care facilities and potentially getting people sick. some states, over ten have taken the initiative and actually launch these themselves, as they should have done, but we are going to help others do it, and we are going to help them stand them up, and starting this friday, we will have some up and running that we are going to keep working with state and local governments to expand that capability. >> laura: and mr. secretary,

finally, i just want to say, i know you are working -- all of you are -- like 24/7. i mean, it's a lot, and thank you for what you are doing. you take a lot of grief, as does the entire administration, the president right in front, but thank you for your work on behalf of the american people. we are praying for you and the recovery of all those afflicted. >> thank you, laura. thank you for what you do, also, to keep us all informed. >> laura: you take care. of next, china's reckoning is coming. victor davis hanson is here next on how we should be holding china accountable and what we still don't know about this disease. got the office birthday blues?

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matched with kind of the same tempo of actually doing things. as they did in china, they build hospitals in two or three days. >> laura: it's amazing what labor will do for you. that was former vice president biden chief of staff ron claim, praising china for their response to the coronavirus. victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution, joins me now. victor and i have been talking with china for, i don't know, how long? 20 years? they didn't want to listen, but now they are listening. what about the new -- not new, but the press lauding china's response, given china's role in creating this disaster zone across the globe? >> they have the most insidious and nefarious state run media complex that i've ever seen. we are underestimating them. when you get lectures from the most nondiverse, intolerant, and race this country in the world, that we are racist, when they

put a million people in camps whose religious views they don't approve of, you know something is wrong. or when you have the nba in this country on michael bloomberg or joe biden talking about we are being xenophobic or don't appreciate how china is, you know either they themselves are members of their family have business interests. we've got to wake up. you've outlined the need to protect strategic industries, medical supplies, semiconductors, rare earths, and we have to do that so they don't cut it off right now, don't cut prices later. i would also ask, laura, why aren't universities who have run up $1.6 trillion in student debt, why do they feel they have to have a 300,000 chinese students as profit cash cows to subsidize their inefficient ops operation. 99% of the 300,000 plus our fine students, but the 1% is what i'm

worried about. they are engaged in technological appropriation at best, espionage at worst. why do we have to have 20,000 people going back and forth per day between china and the united states without any passport or health care or visa control. and remember, there were 500,000 chinese nationals who came into seattle sfo, lax, west coast airports, between the time the chinese government knew this was contagious and the travel ban. and finally, laura, one eccentric suggestion, there used to be common wisdom in our bipartisan foreign policy, going back to henry kissinger go mother that china and russia would not be better friends to one another than they are to us, and with this mueller hystea about russia, we lost a real card with russia and their countries in the world that have been terrified of china and russia included, have a long border with india. we have to develop realist approaches to people we might not otherwise want to be that

close, and one of them is russia. and normalize that relationship. closer relationships with india. a model citizen, south korea, taiwan especially, and japan. >> laura: by the way, victor -- victor -- >> close relations with all of these countries -- >> laura: we needed a rush and reset, instead, we got mueller. that's what happened there. victor, i love how the w.h.o., courtesy of china, the wealth of organization doesn't allow taiwan to be part of the w.h.o., either. that is out the window because of china. china is in bed with the world health organization, and that is part of the reallocation of medical supplies to europe. they are begging china for help and they're getting it, same with little places like the bahamas are getting help. china has a lot of money, still, and they make everything. so now they have the power over us, and we never should have given it to them in the first place. real quick to close it out? >> money to the elites of these

westernized countries and have a wonderful propaganda, and it is the poor victim and identity politics, you are racist -- >> laura: yeah, you can't call it the china virus. >> yeah, it is. i implore you to ruthlessly and shamelessly -- we are falling for it. we have to stand up and say, we don't care what you say, we are not going to cease our criticism of the way you treated the world, and us in particular. i think we just got to ignore this propaganda, but it's very effective, and its insidious. >> laura: all right, victor, we've got to roll. and they suck it up because they get the cash. universities, they get cash. victor, thank you so much, great to see you tonight. >> even as the market shifts from day-to-day, the coronavirus is slowing our economy to a near standstill. and we are almost certainly anticipating a recession. >> laura: well, the coronavirus is causing a lot of fear, in a lot of pain, a lot of

suffering, uncertainty. every american is affected by this. it's our response to this outbreak that is wreaking havoc on our economy. today, we learned that ford, gm, and chrysler, are all closing down! through at least the end of the month, out of health concerns. hundreds of shopping malls are closing. think about it. all of the businesses, the food courts, houses in the mall, just those alone. the ripple effects will be huge. over on wall street, of course, the dow melted down. down at one point over 2,000 points, but it tumbled 1300 points. but of course, the real pain is being felt on main street. they always pay -- the ordinary, working-class americans always eat the dust in these circumstances. government policy to limit travel, force bars, movie theaters, other businesses to close down. might be the right policy. we will know in a few months if it was, but it's taking its toll. jobless claims are spiking.

on appointment benefits in new jersey yesterday alone. that's 12 times more than normal, to give you a sense of where we are going. the connecticut labor department is now processing 10,000 jobless filings today, 20 times more than normal. so many people are filing for unemployment that the website for kentucky, oregon, and new york all crashed. nevada said it is closing down for 30 days. no nevada businesses, 30 days, except essential ones. now, as we said, we think we need to follow all necessary, you know, orders, rules, to try to slow the spread of this virus down, and it looks like this is what we're going to have to do now because we didn't know about it soon enough. but you have to really think about this. what if we are wrong? joining me now is amity slade, chairman of the calvin coolidge presidential foundation and author of "great society." loved the book. and that he, if we are wrong, at the response needed for this virus to slow it down, what will

we say, looking back on this time, about what we did to our economy and what we did to our businesses and workers and families? >> thank you, laura. well, historically we have responded to crises by extending governments. that is what happened to the great society, and it's what happened in the 1930s, of course, when the market crashed the way it has been crashing this week. we said government is the answer here, such as we are doing with the coronavirus, as you've been pointing out, rather than individuals are the answer. but you know, laura, a crisis is also an opportunity. rahm emanuel said a crisis is a terrible thing to waste, and he was right. not just for progressives, but also for free marketeers. so it really depends on the quality of the government and the action, what kind of recession we get, whether it is a blip recession or a long

recession. and all signs, unfortunately, so far, are more of the long recession kind because they are the big government solutions. >> laura: lets go through some of the aid package, of course, the president signed tonight. here it is. here are the three proposals, i should say, from the house financial services committee. we will put it up on the screen. this was sent by maxine waters. $2,000 a month, they want, for adults. 1k for children. suspend payments, prohibit, ban all evictions and foreclosures, $10 billion for community development grants. that is a wish list of liberalism, but is there a little bit of that socialism/liberalism in the deal that ends up being struck, or the multiple deals? >> well, yes, when republicans don't do too well, that is what

the new deal showed, when they offer a lighter version of what democrats offer -- because democrats are always going to promise more spending by the government than republicans, so republicans are kind of doing this in vain. what would be really interesting to see would be if the government would dare to be different in its response to this crisis, which is a very specific, at least for the moment, to a disease. so, for example, one thing the government might do is send people who need money money. we will be humanitarian, but we will define that as humanitarian, not economic. we won't pretend it is economic. and then we will do a couple of wild things to make the economy, certainly the market, come back. i can name tark off the top of my head -- >> laura: amity, can you hold that? hold your thoughts, we're going to have you on tomorrow off the top o.we can talk about a littlf what is outside the box that might set us on a better path. thank you so much.

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contributor, author of "will while there," the paper that march 24th. i already have mine. raymond, you have some big political news. haven't been talking politics that much, you have it tonight to report. what is it? >> laura, bernie sanders' presidential prospects are dwindling before our eyes. not out of the race officially, but joe biden swept the primaries in illinois, florida, arizona last night, and both standards may have an enormous influence on us coming race, last night, due to the coronavirus outbreak, biden streamed his victory speech from his home in delaware. listen closely to this revealing moment, laura. >> senator sanders and i may disagree on tactics, but we share a common vision. for the need to provide affordable health care for all americans, reduce income inequity that has arisen so drastically, to tackling the existential threat of our time: climate change.

>> climate change is the existential threat facing us in the midst of the coronavirus. laura, when he says bernie sanders and i share a common vision, what it proves is bernie sanders has dragged biden all the way to the left, and really -- his electoral argument that he could appeal to america. >> laura: well, blue-collar joe has faded in the background there. the common mission is "get trumped." that is the only mission they have. they wouldn't have done anything different to make this hole, you know, virus situation any better. they would've opened up the borders and we would've had more people here. i don't even want to hear how biden would have done a better job. what a joke that is. >> biden is becoming the william mckinley of 2020. member, michele did the front porch campaign. biden is doing it out of his garage. there is a moment at the end of the speech, watch this. i think it showed how lost biden is. just looked. >> my hopes are high because i

believe in times of crisis americans have always stepped up. we have to step up and confront one another. thank you all. thank you all for listening. own. thanks. thanks. thanks. okay. >> laura, the biden home is turning into a place for granddad's, okay? 's entire speech ran about 5 minutes. he looked as if he didn't know where he was. jill was a surprise to him. imagine if joe biden were dealing with the crisis that trump is dealing with now, with back-to-back emergency meetings and hour-long pressures. this will not hold on well. >> laura: there is no way -- if his team of obama-nauts what

have dealt with this any different lee. it's not like obama had millions of tests in his back pocket that would have emerged. trump was handed the deck he got from obama, and they are ramping this thing up fast. they were dealing with a deceitful country like china, and now we are finally catching up, but the idea that gaia would have done any better than donald trump, i don't think so. all right, tell me about -- what are people saying? >> people are finding interesting ways to contend with being homebound. we are doing this at my house. in between homework meltdowns and snack runs, we already had our first monopo-quake. you sit down to play monopoly and somebody loses, this happens. >> her emails! her emails! hillary! >> others have gotten very creative in the games they play of during this quarantine. a friend of actor james wood

hosted a fascinating poker game. you've heard of five card stud? this is five fly stud. they are betting toilet paper. [laughs] >> laura: oh, my god. send me a memo when the toilet paper memes have faded from the internet, okay? i'm about done with those at this point. we've got to roll, but raiment, there is a scene from st. patrick's day which we want to end with. real quick, because we are out of time. put that up on the screen real quick. >> st. patrick's day was canceled, but on fifth avenue, a lone bagpiper put on a kilt and celebrated all alone clearly in my mind, he is celebrating for all of us. we got to keep the spirit alive in our hearts and homes until we can come back together and do it as one. we will get through this. >> laura: yeah. we are going to get through it, but being cooped up certainly makes us created with the kids, doesn't it, raiment? i hope you found all of the pieces from the monopoly game that you turned over when

rebecca started beating you. okay, we've got to go. raymond, thanks so much. >> see you later in the week. >> laura: all right, we warned you before the george soros backed prosecutors were bad news. we talked about this for months. now they are using the coronavirus as an excuse to do what? to let criminals free. isn't that a great idea? bernie kerik is here and will expose the latest erosion of our criminal justice system, next. announcer: there are everyday actions to help prevent the spread of respiratory diseases. wash your hands. avoid close contact with people who are sick. avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth. stay home when you are sick. cover your cough or sneeze. clean and disinfect frequently touched objects with household cleaning spray. for more information, visit cdc.gov/covid19. this message brought to you by the national association of broadcasters and this station.

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♪ >> laura: i love live tv, because when i see something i just have to tell you about it. fairly introducing catch and release policies, for looters and drug dealers, until the coronavirus ends. okay. they are releasing prisoners in

l.a. and other places, i think sacramento and so forth. and now, michael avenatti says he should be released early because of the coronavirus come along with bernie made off and a couple of other ne'er-do-wells. joining me now, former nypd to commissioner kerik. i get it, we don't want a pandemic in prisons, some of the corrections officers in new york, i believe come have tested positive. but now this is just a get out of jail free card for all of these people that a lot of us know all too well. >> there's two things, laura. first ball, and the federal bureau of prisons, there is a compassionate release program that has certain criteria where the inmates can get an outcome over 65 years old, ready to walk out the door. i think personally, i think the president should put out an executive order, attorney general, get them out of the system. they are the people susceptible to this disease, and they are leaving anyway. get them out to. on the other end, these

prosecutors doing catch and release is no different in the bail reform stop in new york city. they are doing it in brooklyn and philly. it's a danger to the community. endangers the cops, the men and women that are out there doing a job that nobody else wants to do, especially today. and it's putting people at risk. and i think it is just crazy. >> laura: in cuyahoga county, ohio, bernie, they released inmates -- claiming it was only low level, you know, nonviolent offenders. they said that was the only people who would be let go, except they also just released a murder suspect. the man in question pled guilty to severely abusing his 4-month-old child ten years ago, and prosecutors they hid infant son later died. that's the problem, is it not? >> that is the problem. there is no criteria -- they are not using any specific criteria, just putting people out of prison. in the federal system, where

they just had two officers in the last several hours, identified in the b.o.b, that had the virus, they have a criteria for the older inmates that are ready to get out, get them out of the system. you don't want them in there. >> laura: all right, we hit that. bernie -- we hit that. but what we are talking about his drug dealers, looters, people who have been arrested, and some of them, i imagine, taking advantage of the current panic. and lockdown. >> absolutely -- >> laura: they are being cited. it's called site and release. they will right up a citation, not that i ever get traffic citations, but if you get a citation, bernie, and then you are just out. exactly what you said -- >> they are doing like in new york city -- >> laura: unbelievable. >> they give a desk appearance ticket and basically say show up in court, and most of these guys, especially those kind of crimes, they don't show up

anyway. they have to be held accountable. it is emboldening criminal conduct because they know they are going to get released, anyway. they come back and do it all over again. >> laura: hey, bernie, i have to ask about something people keep emailing me about. we only have about a minute left. in times or things are locked down for extended periods of time, stores and so forth, when do you worry about potential for bad criminal activity, such as looting? and what do you do when you walk stuff down, that gets dangerous over long periods of time. real quick. >> in the aftermath of septembet week or so, we saw a really -- we didn't see no crime at all. you know, the bad guys were even afraid. after a period of time after that first, second week, then they go haywire. then you have to get people out there and they are really running rampant. in this case, if you are not locking them up and they know they're not going to get locked up -- >> laura: they're going to loot. >> they will be out twice as

bad. >> laura: all right, bernie, great to see you tonight. stay safe out there, and don't go away, the last flight is next.

♪ >> laura: we know people don't have enough personal protection to go into stores, so people in texas are getting really creative with old costumes they found in the closet somewhere. check this out. little cute dinosaur.

the problem is my son would go up and hug the dinosaur. imagine the germs carried on that costume. anyway, that's all the time we have. stay strong. shannon. >> w it might be something worth investigating. why not? >> laura: have a great show. >> the president unleashes on authorities that could activate the u.s. military to ramp up critical surprised. they're considering the expansive role they will be plain. as the death toll rises to 139. italy reporting at least 500 deaths in a single day. an italian doctor's emotional for help. and coronavirus heading capitol hill.