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be here all week long. >> sandra: his sentiments, great interview echoing the sentiments from bill cassidy at the top of the show this morning. what a few hours. we'll take everybody through this every day, every week this goes out. >> ed: let's get to "outnumbered overtime" right now. >> we begin with the fox news alert on the coronavirus pandemic right now that is surging. global cases now surpassing 350,000 with nearly 15,000 deaths so far. and as the united states general surgeon issues a sobering warning to his fellow task members. sglie want america to understand this week it will get bad and we really need to come together as a nation. everyone needs to act as if they have the virus right now. tests or no tests we need you to understand you could be
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spreading it to someone else or you could be getting it from someone else. stay at home. >> the united states now ranks number three in the entire world in total cases. with at least 35,000 of them in this country. at least 471 people have died of covid-19 in all of the u.s. and so now amid the spike in the numbers, which we kind of knew would come because of all the testing that we're doing right now. president trump is activated the national guard in three of the hardest-hit states. and in all of this washington, california, new york, the president says the federal government is doing all it can. footing the bill for the troops. we apologize there is a delay here. he says large quantities of
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masks and protective gear will get to the people who need them. here is the president. you're watching "outnumbered." with a few bumps and bruises and we're getting it going. i'm harris, melissa francis is here. fox headlines 24/7 reporter carley shimkus is with us. family and emergency medicine doctor janet neshwat. fax news contributor as well. as we go this morning we'll bring in the center seat in a box today of course, brian kilmeade co-host of fox and friends and host of the brian kilmeade radio show. we've riff it here. we have a little disconnect. let's talk about where we are, if we can, doctor, in what the
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president is doing to roll out amid new reports today with some spiking numbers. >> sure. so what really struck me as well we're actually moving, executing the plan is three things. number one, they said we'll be here in new york in dire need of supplies, sending out millions of masks, what we call ppe, personal protective equipment. also four medical stations will be set up, harris, with 1,000 beds each. that's phenomenal. 4,000 extra hospital beds in the state of new york, which is really going to go a long way. then one of the medical ships, the comfort ship is supposed to be coming our way. so those three things are very helpful because our surgeon general said it will get worse. it already is worse and we need to do everything we can to control, to slow down the spread. the less number of cases we have, the less number of
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hospitalizations. the less strain and burden on the hospitals and the emergency rooms. it's really difficult to -- >> i hear what you are saying. we knew we would see a spike in numbers when we started to test more. i'm confused. we do want a situation where we know how many cases are out there. that's a cluster over there and a cluster and we can sequester the people. we won't find them if we don't test for them. we will find positive and sick people. some of it was anticipated. are we ready? >> that's true. initially no, i don't think we were ready. we're getting there. as soon as these extra ppes come in, the extra bedding and support, the extra supplies and then on top of that we need the manpower. >> we have breaking news from the senate floor. mitch mcconnell.
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>> are you kidding me? this is the moment to debate new regulations that have nothing whatsoever to do with this crisis? that's what they're up to over there. american people need to know it. democrats won't let us fund hospitals or save small businesses unless they get to dust off the green new deal. i would like to see senate democrats tell new york city doctors and nurses who are literally overrun as we speak that they are filibustering hospital funding and more masks because they want to argue with the airlines over their carbon footprint? i'd like to see senate democrats to help small business employees in their states who are literally being laid off every day that they are filibustering
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relief that will keep people on the payroll because democrats' special interest friends want to squeeze employers while they are vulnerable. squeeze these employers while they are vulnerable. i'd like to see senate democrats tell all american seniors who have seen their hard earned retirement savings literally melt away, as the markets track toward their worst month since 1931. they are continuing to hold up emergency measures over tax credits for solar panels. tax credits for solar panels. even with the federal reserve announcing even further extraordinary steps today, the markets are tanking once again, as i said. because this body can't get its act together. the only reason it can't get its act together is right over here on the other side of the aisle. so, these are just a few of the
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completely nonjermaine wish list items. that they are rallying behind, preventing us from getting this emergency relief to the american people right now. 11th-hour demands, that democrats have a decided a more that americans pay checks and the personal safety of doctors and nurses. so, remember, speaker pelosi, top ascendant in the house, said a few days ago. this is a direct quote. "this is a tremendous opportunity to restrict things to fit our vision. "to fit our vision. that was the democratic whip in the house, just laying it out there. it reminds me of the definition of when a politician in washington tells you what he really means.
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last night, just last night, he was one of our democratic colleagues. "how many times are we going to get a shot at a $1 trillion plus program?" right here on the floor last night. i don't know how many trillion plus packages were going to have." in other words, let's don't waste this opportunity to take full advantage and get our whole wish list done. they ought to be embarrassed, mr. president. in fact, i've heard from some of them who are embarrassed. talking like this is some juicy political opportunity. this is not a juicy political opportunity, this is a national emergency. we had days of productive bipartisan talks to get to this point. senate democrats sat down with senate republicans and negotiated furiously to get to this point. the bill now contains a huge
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number of changes that our democratic colleagues requested, including major changes. we were this close, this close, and yesterday morning the speaker of the house flew back from san francisco. and suddenly, the senate's serious bipartisan process turned into this left-wing episode of "supermarket sweep." unrelated issues. left and right. i will tell you what will be to lower carbon footprint. , mr. president. if the entire economy continues to crumble, with hundreds of thousands more americans laid off because senate democrats. that will lower our carbon footprint, all right. every single american outside of washington knows this is no time for this nonsense.
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a surgeon in fresno, california, says, "we are at war with no ammo. we are at war with no ammo." that's a surgeon in fresno. an intensive care nurse in new york city says, "if we don't get the proper equipment soon, we are going to get sick." democrats are filibustering more masks and aid for hospitals every day, more americans wake up to news that their jobs are gone. their jobs are gone. democrats are filibustering programs to keep people on the payroll? they are filibustering a huge expansion of unappointed insurance, which they themselves negotiated and put into the bi bill?
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hundreds of dollars extra per week for laid-off workers on top of existing unemployment benefits? and democrats are blocking it? this has got to stop. and today's the day it has to stop. the country is out of time. out of time. when the democratic house passed their phase two bill, even though senate republicans would have written it very different differently, we spun it through the senate and passed it quickly without even amending it. i literally told my colleagues to gag and vote for it. for the sake of building bipartisan momentum. because republicans understand that a national crisis calls for urgency, and it calls for bipartisanship. it's time for that good faith to be reciprocated.
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it's time for democrats to stop playing politics and step up to the plate. small businesses in their own states deserve it. their own state's emergency room doctors deserve it. their own constituents who have lost their jobs deserve it. in my home state of kentucky, the governor is effectively pausing commerce across the state, and our unemployment system crashed due to demand. kentuckians need help now, and we aren't alone. i've heard the pleas from health care workers in new york and seattle, i've listened to the small business owners crying out in brooklyn and chicago. why does only one side understand that this is urgent?
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where are these hard-hit cities, our own senators are happy, really, to keep this slow walking going on indefinitely? is that really something these folks on the other side are comfortable with? indefinitely slow-walking all of this? how can have to senate not rise to the occasion, at a time where everybody else in the country is pulling together? they are pulling us apart. the examples are all over the country. that we ought to look too. health care heroes, to neighborhood volunteers, to national industries. everybody is unifying and pitching in. what about here in the senate?
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it's time to get with the program. time to pass historic relief, that we have built together. the country doesn't have time for these political games. it ain't progress. so we are going to vote in just a few minutes, and i assure you, mr. president, the american people will be watching. >> harris: and, of course, that was -- >> melissa: we were listening to senate majority leader mitch mcconnell there. let's bring it on out to the couch. brian, what do you think about this as they go back and forth? and of course we hear the speaker there.
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i'm sorry, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. saying that this is speaker pelosi's fault, basically. that there was a lot of bipartisan spirit until the moment that speaker pelosi's jet landed back in washington, and all the sudden that was out the window. do you think that's a fair criticism? >> brian: i'm going to bring it back, i saw two lawmakers that texted me over the last two hours to say "it wasn't that she was back, she had already green-lighted that she was going to okay with the senate gave them. until they found out that five republicans tested positive for the coronavirus." [audio cuts out] >> melissa: exactly, let's do that. >> the president's liaison, getting things done. we democrats are trying to get things done. not making partisan speech after partisan speech. in the past 24 hours, we got
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word that a member of this chamber, senator paul, has tested positive for coronavirus. and the husband of another member, senator klobuchar, also tested positive. he's in the hospital. i want to let them know, both of them, that the senate is thinking of them, praying for their speedy recovery. as we are for tens of thousands of american families who are confronting the same situation right now. whether you are afraid for a sick family member, an older relative in the hospital, or are struggling with at work, income, or the knowledge of when your isolation might end, our thoughts are with you right now. these are trying times for all of us, but the scourge of this
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disease will pass. the american people, as always, will prevail. as the number of confirmed covid-19 cases in the united states eclipses 35,000, the senate continues to negotiate what will likely be the largest emergency funding bill in american history. as i've mentioned, we've had almost continuous discussions with secretary mnuchin. he left my office at about 12:15 a.m. last night and was there until about 9:00 a.m. this morning. the white house congressional liaison has been in and out of the office, as well. we are very close to reaching a deal. very close. our goal is to reach a deal today, and we are hopeful, even confident, that we will meet that goal. we've been working on a few outstanding issues that are no surprise to everyone. from the very beginning
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democrats have insisted on a marshall plan for medical system. more money for hospitals, community health centers, nursing homes, and urgent medical supplies like gloves and masks, icu beds, testing kits, ventilators, and ppe. since our negotiations, the numbers have gone up dramatically because the hospitals, our health care workers, need the help. we are fighting hard and making progress for funding for state and local governments. they are propping up local health care networks virtually on their own. their revenues are dramatically declining. many towns and villages across america, the smaller ones in particular, it might going broke pretty soon if we do nothing. if we can help the big corporations, we can help our local tan towns and villages ane taxpayers they represent. on unemployment insurance, the bill has moved in the direction
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we've outlined. the original bill had the unexpended employment benefits, we need to make it longer. because the dislocation caused by this crisis will not be over in 90 days, and people who lose their jobs need help. but it says to every american who loses his or her job the democratic plan that is now in the bill, that you will get your full pay from the federal government. you can keep your benefits, health and otherwise. and it means that you will be able to come back and the business you had to leave will reassemble itself quickly after, god willing, this crisis ends. the bill still include something most americans don't want to see -- large corporate bailouts, no strings attached. maybe the majority thinks it's unfair to ask for protections,
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to companies that are getting hundreds of billions of dollars. we think it's very fair to ask for those. those are not extraneous issues. those are for workers, nobody else. so we are looking for protecti protection. we are looking for oversight. if this federal government is making a big loan to someone, to a big company, we ought to know it and of the details immediately. the bill that was put on the floor by the republican leader said no one would know a thing about those loans for six months at least. and in those so called "bailouts," we need to protect workers. the workers those industries employ. we have been guided by one plan -- workers first. that's the name of our proposal. the bill needs to reflect that priority. now, we are working on all these items in good faith as we speak,
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and we hope and expect to conclude negotiations today. this vote in the senate is no surprise. it is to take a repeat of the vote that failed last night. leader mcconnell continues to set arbitrary vote deadlines when the matter of real importance is the status of the bipartisan negotiations. so, let me be clear. the upcoming procedural votes are essentially irrelevant. the negotiations continue no more than 30 feet away from the floor of the senate in our offices, where the real progress is taking place. once we have an agreement that everyone can get behind, we are prepared to speed up the consideration of that agreement on the floor. so i'm going to get back to negotiations. we all know time is of the essence. the country is facing the twin crises in our health care system
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and in our economy. we have an obligation to get the details right. to get them done quickly. that doesn't mean blindly accepting a republican-only bill. that was the bill we were given. lots of things we didn't even know about, saturday. that means working to make this bill better. better for our small businesses, better for our working families, better for our health care system. democrats will not stop working with our republican counterparts until we get the job done. i will continue to update on the progress of our negotiations. i note the absence of a quorum. speak of the senator from maine? >> mr. president, i ask unanimous consent -- >> melissa: that was senator chuck schumer saying,
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among other things, "we democrats are trying to get things done, not make political speeches," and very much trying to frame this as republicans trying to create some sort of corporate slush fund. brian, i will go back to you. let me redo the other side of it. this is what republicans are saying. they are saying majority web james clyburn told caucus members last week that this bill was a tremendous opportunity to restructure things "to fit our vision." so, someone is lying. they are accusing republicans of trying to create a slush fund. the other side says that democrats are trying to get in there and say, "wait a second, this is a chance for us to get closer to the green new deal." americans were out there and out of work and are terrified, i have no doubt, are disgusted. brian? >> brian: melissa, you lived this on fb and into thousand eight. so i'm not telling you anything you don't know. remember, a lot of this money was given for projects, and those progress down my projects were not sure of ready. both sides are winning from
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that. they are sinking to small businesses -- there are strings attached. they told -- to not use -- to buy -- if you can work -- when you say -- airlines. when you say -- excuse me, new -- that is un-american. worse yet, it's perhaps -- 405 republican senators who have the coronavirus. they feel as though you need -- i'm going to hold you over a barrel. because he was supposed to? americans. >> harris>> melissa: carley, tho
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true. i do remember those shovel-ready jobs. this time around, people are really hurting and need this in order to make payroll, to keep their small businesses open. how do you think they feel as they watch this fighting going back and forth? where two sides frankly are saying things that don't match up. someone is lying. i don't think the average person wants to sort through it and figure out who it is. >> carley: this should not be happening, this is another way this is supposed to go. people are dying. the global economy has shut down, and there is still partisan bickering going on on capitol hill. small businesses don't care about terms like "slush fund," "corporate buyout, corporate bailouts, stock buyback." they need money now. larry kudlow says he thinks this thing is going to pass today or tomorrow. i really hope he's right. if it doesn't, that's going to be a big problem. if it doesn't, maybe they need to cut out that $500 billion
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that has become controversial for big businesses. pass a smaller bill. but there one job now, melissa, is to fire off that money can in, put money back into the economy, ease the mind of small business owners, and make it easy for them to get checks. >> melissa: dr. nesheiwat, where do we stand -- they were just talking about masks and trying to get those supplies out to the hospitals and the doctors who need them. it's terrifying, and we all heard from medical professionals over the weekend who were saying there down like they are on lines. they are going to come to their families. where do you think we stand on that? >> dr. nesheiwat: it's tough, we are still lacking in supplies. i tried to clean down one of my masks yesterday. that's why it is so important for people to understand, for patients to understand, this is a very serious respiratory disease. and you should not be going to the hospital are going to an
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urgent care center for mild symptoms. because you are actually consuming ppes that the doctor or nurse could be using for a patient that really, really needs it. within 48 hours, we are told, we are supposed to be getting a shipment of supplies coming to us. but we are rationing our ppes, our masks, our gowns. we are even rationing our swabs. i had one swab left and had to decide who i wanted to slob, who was more critical and at risk. >> melissa: that's rough. meanwhile, president trump deploying the national guard into the areas taking the hardest hit from the coronavir coronavirus, including the state that appears to be the u.s. epicenter of the pandemic. >> the president declared what is called a "major disaster declaration." that allows fema, federal emergency management agency's, to help us.
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...ask your doctor about piqray. >> we have large quantities of medical equipment and supplies on the way, based on all of this. to those states, including respirators, surgical mask and gowns, face shields, coveralls, and gloves with large quantities already delivered to washington and new york. >> harris: that's president trump, obviously, on some of the more important action the administration is taking to help out the areas that have been hardest hit as this coronavirus outbreak is now in full force. washington, california, and new york are those hardest hit areas in the united states, with nearly 17,000 cases, along with 153 deaths, as we've been telling you this hour. the new york city area now is the focal point of the battle, accounting for about 5% of worldwide cases according to
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"the new york times." and the state also has the most confirmed cases in america. again, 17,000, along with 153 deaths. last night the state ordered all nonessential work personnel to stay at home. governor andrew cuomo also announcing four potential locations for temporary hospitals. and today he is talking about the need to beef up hospital capacity. watch. >> we have 53,000. we may need 110,000. we have 3,000 icu beds. back dominic might need 18000-37000 per that's my greatest concern, that's where we need ventilator ventilators. >> harris: you hear governor cuomo, hitting some of the points, as we become, here on the east coast, i don't know. it's like a test model, almost, brian kilmeade. just in terms of how much we've got going on. what, and your anticipation as
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you are watching this play out, is exactly the information that is helpful across the country? that may be seeing new york come through this, that might be good information as we go forward? >> brian: i just have to say, governor andrew cuomo and president trump are working together as a model of how this should work. forget about the ds and the rs. as much of governor cuomo says "thank you for picking up the tab on fema, thank you for setting up the javits center, thinking for the beds," he also says, "mr. president, and joy that you empower the governors. when it comes to medical equipment, we can't compete with for nine states and 100 other countries. if you order these masks from a warehouse and they go to pick up those masks from the warehouse, if somebody else has a better price or has cash in hand, they get it. when fema goes to buy it, if fema can buy it and consolidate it and handed out, in this case,
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it's the only way to do it. because they are asking for exorbitant money. because new york is competing with montana and washington. if we can get out the competition within states, in this case in an emergency, we can stop by gouging and allow the states that need it the most, as looked at by the white house, analyzed by fema in washington, it'll be more effective. i think the president has got to do that. have fema make the buys in the hospitals will get their stuff. >> harris: you know, as i'm listening you to talk, i want to mention the vice president is set to talk to fema this afternoon. he is supposed to do that right before that 5:30 p.m. eastern news conference that is set with the task force today. each day the president has led that, brian, as you are mentioning with the president should do next. maybe we'll hear what you are suggesting after the vp meets with fema. dr. nesheiwat, i have a question for you. just in terms of something we heard senator mccaul say
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moments ago. he said he talked with the cell phone at courage california surgeon. he said we are at war with no ammo. it's your bridge across the country now. that's what cuomo has been saying about new york, no fill review new jersey, so on and so forth. >> dr. nesheiwat: that's a bit of an exaggeration. i don't think fearmongering is a property right now. right now we need to work hard to execute plans, and plans we have in place. that is bringing in the 4,000 hospital beds, bringing in the masks in the ppes, and bringing in that safety ship, the hospital ship, so we can off-load the burden on the hospitals and e.r.es to use those beds and that space, the facility, for patients who might have to end up hospitalized. but the focus should be on minimizing the spread of this virus, obviously. and we do that by avoiding other people. avoiding crowds, staying home. if we can't do that, no matter what efforts we take, we are going to have such a surge on the hospitals, on the e.r.es, we
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are going to be overwhelmed and overburdened, and it's going to be impossible and we will see a lot more lives lost. >> harris: carley, before you go to break, i want to catch on this per year probably reading what is being reported this morning about the possibility that the president might be taking a look at and backing off some of the restrictions as we go forward. what are you finding out about that? >> i have to really agree with brian. he goes to your point, as well, harris. andrew cuomo and president trump's relationship throughout this whole thing has really tickled my fancy, as well. it's a very bipartisan situation. they do disagree on the defense production act. cuomo wants to use it, president trump does not. he finally explained yesterday why. he sort of has dodged that question. it's that he doesn't really want to nationalize businesses making things they are uncomfortable with making. he has also said that this is a situation where you need to go big or go home.
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i think that you could see him actually enacting this, especially because hospital workers are saying that, even though the private sector is stepping up and making things, they still aren't seeing the masks and the hand sanitizer and the gowns they so desperately need. >> harris: all right. everybody sit by, we are going to come right back here on "outnumbered." health care workers are saying they do desperately need those masks and gowns. and their patients need the ventilators. how some states are now restricting their covid-19 testing, and how companies in the private sector are retooling and stepping up to fill the gaps. keep watching. ♪ uncer: wash your hands... avoid sick people... and touching your face. there are everyday actions to help prevent the spread of respiratory diseases. visit cdc.gov/covid19. brought to you by the national association of broadcasters and this station.
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>> we are working with companies like honeywell and 3m, and they
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have voluntarily gone to max production. you don't need to compel someone to do something they're already doing. other companies like haynes are coming forward, companies he would never think of, making masks and creating new ways to make ventilators available. the american society of anesthesiologists is working to make over 70,000 ventilators that are in operating rooms available. >> melissa: the surgeon general on how the private sector is helping to fill the growing demand for medical supplies. this, as officials and some of the nation's hardest hit areas restrict coronavirus testing to health care workers and the severely ill. states are scrambling to acquire even the most basic medical supplies and equipment, amid a nationwide shortage. the trump administration is stepping up its efforts to get crucial items like face masks and gowns back into the hands of doctors and nurses on the front lines, battling the worsening pandemic.
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dr. nesheiwat, i will come to you first. when they put out that order saying that not everybody should get tested because it might waste kids, i heard from so many health workers who were upset with that and disagreed with it so much, they were like, "no, we want to know who has this even if they don't have symptoms." i don't know what the better choices. what is your opinion? >> dr. nesheiwat: of course, we want everyone to be tested. right now, today, we just don't have enough supplies. eventually when you have enough supplies and enough testing kits, absolutely, let's swab everyone. if we know you're positive we can say "stay home, isolate yourself, self-quarantine." we can limit the spread, we can then limit the need for more hospital beds and were ventilators and more staff. absolutely, i agree. but it's getting to the point now where i am actually having doctors and nurses who are my patients. i had to swab a doctor yesterday. i had to tell a nurse, "put yourself on quarantine until you are feeling better." i have to choose who i'm going
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to swab and two is more critically ill, who is at higher risk. it's just a matter of having limited supplies. so we have to use them wisely and appropriate lee. but i totally agree with them, i would love to swab everyone. right now we can't. we are waiting for more supplies. >> melissa: and we are waiting on congress, and one person who is totally serious about that is senator susan collins, just a few minutes ago talking about the delay, angrier than we have seen her in a long time. let's play that. >> don't we want to act quickly to provide relief to the american workers? this is disgraceful. we do not have time. time is not on our side. let's get the job done for the american people. >> melissa: brian, this is somebody who is thought to be a stray daily. you don't know whose side she's going to be on, whether it's republican or democrat.
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if she's not frustrate that frut does it tell you? >> brian: he tells me it's pure partisan politics. it's nothing but an agenda instead of how best to implement a rescue plan. it's agenda-driven. when you come up with green technology and you want green agenda stuff put forward into a bill that has nothing to do with that, faa standards, when you come out and say union rights and now are an issue because five republicans tested positive and can vote, they've got to work at remote voting. the everything in the private sector, if you don't mind me segueing there, 3m has got to do a better job. they only have 500,000 masks? are you kidding me? you know exactly where the masks are. put them on a truck and send them to the cities that need the most. the number two is it turns out fema is not a great customer, or the government is not a great customer for people, because they don't show up with cash. as if the government is going to not pay its bills. so these people show up and they pay money, and when the fema
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trucks show up, they don't have any product because somebody else came in from another country and bought the masks. took the gowns. took the ventilators. that's inexcusable. >> melissa: harris, like me, i'm sure you are hearing from people who are just desperate for supplies. health care workers, desperate. >> harris: you know, melissa, that i'm in the area, the county that has the most cases in the entire state of new jersey. so we actually saw schools close and saw some things a little bit earlier than the rest of the state. we've been rolling like this for a while. the in to make an, dominic were in the hospital just up the road from me. we've seen this happen. i know a lot of medical professionals who just live in the area. i've seen them struggling and have seen them struggling and have seen him struggling for weeks about social media. saying what they need. at the same time, let's just remember they keep going in.
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they are the front lines, they are the original battlefield members, if you will. whatever they need, i agree with you, brian. whatever they need. i want to get two points at breaking news. indiana governor holcomb has ordered his entire state to stay at home as much as possible. essential workers are always the exception across the board here, it seems. they are trying to curb the spread of covid-19 there. just moments ago, i know you guys probably got this on your emails, too. the director of the world health organization, the director general, just said the pandemic is accelerating. we can get into that a little but more, but what that means. the exhilaration point, later in the program. just those points to get out. >> melissa: meanwhile, 30% unemployment. an urgent message on the economy from one of the nation's top economic officials. his mornin warning and why he su
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♪ >> melissa: a dire warning on
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the economy. james bullard, who heads the federal reserve bank of st. louis, predicting the nations on employment rate could spike to 30% amid the global pandemic. he also warns of a potential 50% drop in gdp. but as grim as that may sound, he has also said we are not approaching a recession. >> this is a planned, organized, partial shutdown of the u.s. economy during q2. it's inappropriate to call it a recession. >> melissa: so interesting, brian. so what he's trying to say there is that, when things reopen, they do believe it's going to ramp back up very quickly. quicker than expected. in part because of what they are putting out there as the biggest main street financial program that has ever existed. this isn't about bailing out banks. it is bottom up. they are starting with small businesses, they are starting with individuals. they are starting with loans
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that will become grants if you follow the rules. if you keep people on your payroll. if you pay rent and mortgage. there is a plan in place. congress just has to vote on it. >> brian: right. i watched over the weekend, he had the job before larry kudlow. he came out and said, "listen, it's very important for employers not to put -- not to fire their employees." because if they go on unemployment, they go on unemployment, you have to decide if they want to stay with the same company are not. instead, you keep them there ready to go so the economy can turn on a switch when they're ready to come back. i think that is key. we've never done that before. i think we've learned a lot from 2008, melissa. >> melissa: yeah. absolutely. even as we watch the markets on the bottom of the screen there, down about 300 points on the d day, overnight the markets just looked like they were absolutely
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tanking when they thought that congress wasn't going to be able to pull through on this bill. maybe now they feel there is more light at the end of the tunnel. i don't know. interesting times. more "outnumbered" coming up right after the break. ♪ you're concerned that it's going to cost you money. (ben) to this day, i only paid what i had to pay for the device. when i go back, everything is covered. there's so much you're missing by not having hearing aids. (vo) we'll find you a hearing aid that fits your lifestyle and your budget at one of our 1,500 locations. call 1-800-miracle to start your 30-day risk-free trial and schedule your free hearing evaluation at your locally owned miracle ear today.
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los angeles, new york -- virtual ghost towns right now. all nonessential businesses have been ordered to close. more than 100 million people in eight states ordered to stay in their homes. and those measures in several other states set to take effect, and we are learning day by day more of them. indiana just added to that this too for there, holcomb. the united states hitting a grim ouster now, ranking number three in the world in total cases. only trailing hard hit italy and china where the outbreak obviously began. and more than 35,000 people have tested positive in the u.s. we are doing more testing and getting an idea of what we have among us. that is, however, a 900% spike and confirmed cases in just about a week. 471 people have died in the pandemic here at home. new york governor andrew cuomo with a sobering assessment of what could be in store.

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