more detail on fox business tomorrow, the implications of this for your portfolio and for those directly in the line of its fire. whether they have the virus, or not. here comes "the five." >> i am jesse watters along with greg gutfeld, dana perino, juan williams, and dagen mcdowell. 5:00 in new york city, disses "one more thing." "the five." partisan politics are crippling america's response to the coronavirus, chuck schumer and senate democrats blocking a critical stimulus bill for a second time. it would provide over $1 trillion to millions of workers and businesses directly impacted by the outbreak. it comes as america's surgeon general warns that this is going to be a bad week for the country. infections are soaring in america, with over 40,000 cases

and 50 500 dead. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell calling out democrats for prioritizing their wish list instead of backing a clean stimulus bill. here is just some of the back-and-forth. >> it's time for democrats to stop playing politics and step uup to the plate. the entire economy continues to crumble. here are some of the items on the democratic wish list over which they choose to block this legislation. tax credits for solar energy and wind energy, provisions to force employers to give special treatment to big labor, and listen to this, new emission standards for the airlines. are you kidding me? >> may be the majority leader thinks it's unfair to ask for protections for workers, that is a wish list for workers.

nobody else. >> over in the house, nancy pelosi introducing her own stimulus plan. instead of focusing on immediate relief, pelosi is attacking president trump over obamacare. >> i am calling on president trump to abandon his lawsuit seeking to strike out the affordable care act. he should urge the 14 states who have refused to expand medicaid to do so. today, house democrat take responsibility for workers and families act, a bill that takes responsibility for the health and well-being of america's workers. >> mr i think everyone knows it isn't going to be perfect, i would like to see may be twice as much or families and 24 workers. i don't see anything wrong with having strings attached, for attaching strings to things like making sure there are more women

on boards or more green new deal, that's fine, that's not what this is about. >> to your point, does it have to be perfect? we are not in a time of luxury where you can hone this package to an ideal thing, when a firefighter is facing a blazed he stop and go hey, excuse me, is that mineral or tapwater? you get the hose and you pointed at the fire. this relief package is the hose and water that we need. i consider myself a layperson, i have no idea what is wrong with this bill. ideological language obscures the truth. the lay people cannot see what is going on. it's like we need a visual model to show us what these votes of contention are, what are the absurdities and what aren't the absurdities. a chart, a graph, a doll. this is where they disagree, this is where they don't. instead, we see how politics undermines everything. oddly, politics is the invisible

virus that is going to beat us. it is going to be a coronavirus, if this keeps us from getting the stimulus then we are all screwed. you know what, we are as americans asked to sacrifice. we are told to stay in our homes and not go to work. they should do their jobs. they shouldn't stop playing their stupid game and match our sacrifice or else they forgot us as citizens. >> it is amazing how the whole country can come together except politicians in washington, d.c. >> in fairness to the politicians, keep in mind, this would be the third. they already passed one bill to put more money into the federal government health care response, all the federal agencies that deal with health care. then secondly, passed some money to help with unemployment, to help with paid leave, and even in some cases to help people

with their health care costs. so this is a step that is meant in terms of a larger economy, in that regard the key to my mind is that they should be very careful here. what we want is to put more money in people's pockets because consumer spending is the key to our economic recovery down the road. you want people to be able to pay their bills. >> if they are unemployed or whatever, but they don't stop paying their bills. instead, with the democrats see, they see a $425 billion amount of money that is being given to the federal reserve that the incumbent administration can decide who gets up money, who doesn't get that money. congress would have very little or no oversight, and they are worried it becomes what they are calling a flush fund. for big business, they want to make sure that unlike 2,008, when a lot of people said afterwards on my gosh this was too big to fail,

we pilled out wall street agai again. joe manchin the senator from west virginia was on the floor arguing with mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader, he said we don't have mass congressional deletmasks,ventild be here rather than on wall street. >> we don't want a bailout again, it is not the fault of these industries that they didn't cause this recession. you are just kind of giving them liquidity so they can keep employees instead of firing them or give them access to capital in terms of loans for small businesses to stay afloat. >> this is not just wall street, this is far from it. these are the company is not all americans work for. this is a large swath of the u.s. economy that has basically been put out of business overnight. they are suffering, no fault of their own. just like individuals, just like the people who have been laid off, the millions who have been

laid off and to correct one, the $425 billion goes to the treasury and as a backstop for lending at the federal reserve, which would total about $4 trillion. that is how you can leverage that amount of money, that is why this is critical. while congress is flailing and failing the american people, and dithering and bickering, it is the nerds over at the fed that have stepped up today with whatever it takes to rescue this economy. we are going all in to lending facilities to make sure corporations are not failing. you know what happens if they do? we are talking about a great depression for the next decade, leave it to the federal reserve. really quickly, the fed is also planning to roll out a main street business lending program that will support lending to small and midsize businesses but they need help from congress to backstop that. so where are we? we are staring into the abyss

because of those losers in congress. >> dana, it looks like they had somewhat of a deal at some point over the weekend and nancy pelosi flies in from california and throws the whole thing haywire. what do you think she was calculating there? >> well, i think it is a pretty stark situation one mitch mcconnell would rather be working with harry reid then chuck schumer at this moment, as you know or might remember they did not get along so well. at least harry reid would not have been switched around by the speaker of the house. if you think about what happened last weekend, mitch mcconnell made all sorts of ridiculous accusations of him not working through the weekend. there wasn't a bill for them to work on over the weekend, instead what you have is them holding things up, making the stock market go down even further, and the president said

this from the beginning, this is not the fault of the workers. they did nothing wrong. these are not people that weren't paying their mortgages, or with the wall street bank situation. this is nothing like that. the country needs to step up big and fast, it is not going to be perfect. remember, with wall street, those banks paid back the money pretty quickly because the economy got back up and running. we need the economy to be back up and running quickly, they need to do it big. i think it will probably get it done by midnight tonight. >> that would be fantastic, just in time for the market to open. >> there might be a procedural reason the democrats might have screwed this up so much that they can't vote until wednesday, but i know that they are trying to do it fast. >> we will be covering it here, and keeping you guys posted. coming up, we are awaiting a white house task force news conference on the virus. up an next, the fda is allowing clinical trials for coronavirus

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>> you must remind yourself throughout this ordeal of the good news. there is no question that our self distancing is flattening the curve, so the accumulation of cases are spread out over time. now, you will still hear about the growing number of infections, but as that occurs, you should see the fatality number go down. but on the drug front, there is also promising news. knock on sanitized wood, researchers are reporting on a combination of antimalarial meds and antibiotics. ththey saw significant reduction in the viral load, meanwhile, anecdotal evidence straight from

patient's mounts are attesting to its effects. he here is actor daniel day cam. >> here is what i consider to be the secret weapon, hydroxychloroquine. it is also the drug that dr. anthony fauci cautioned us about, he said evidence that the drug was promising as anecdotal. that is correct. it wasn't studied, it is only based on personal accounts. add my name to those personal accounts, because i am feeling better. >> that is good news for him, how does the media respond to all this? because trump had touted the drug on twitter msn published a news piece with the headline "drug touted by trump can kill in just 2 grams." a lot of things can kill you with 2 grams, trust me. the media who love to tout their faith in science flunk remedial math, back to the good news. if if we can treat people and reduce mortality even more, not

only can we save lives, we can also save our economy. yeah, it might get scary, but hopefully the good news should soon overtake the bad. so first, we had to divide. fingers crossed, we will conqu conquer. >> hey dana, i will ask you under the question. it is so weird, you're not next to me. very strange. >> do you miss me? >> i am alone, except for jesse above me as usual. >> towering above you. >> we need these clinical trials so we can tell if people are getting better on their own, a lot of people are getting better on their own and you have to compare groups to placebos with the group that got the drug, tht poses an ethical question because if this drug is working, do you want to be in the placebo group? i was a nerdy question. >> that is a nerdy question, a good one. thankfully there are doctors

working on this, i am hopeful that if this works then we have we know the drug can be made. if it works, great. i will be patient and wait for people, but i do want to mention i talk to a friend of mine this weekend, a doctor. he has many patients i called him over the weekend, these are pretty wealthy people demanding that they be given this drug so that they could have it in their bathroom cabinet just in case they may be get covid-19 and they want to take care of themselves. first of all, you are asking your doctor to do something unethical. second, you are preventing someone who migh might really nt and could get better. you have a supply and demand problem with the cost. let's hope that this works, but everybody if you are wealthy and you think you can stockpile the stuff, knock it off. >> it is that inclination that i got the money, i will just throw money at it and i will be safe. you see how cheap was cautious

about this, and trump was optimistic. i always feel like it is two sides of the same coin and that dr. fauci has to be the cautious voice and trump has to be the cheerleader, they are going the same direction i think. >> they are, there are so many other promising therapies that are under development. we have talked about some, a, ad antibody drug, it could be out by this summer. some ideas being thrown out are these trials that you should have multiple therapies in the same large trial, and even a scale of manufacturing before we are sure they work. so for all the people who spent years vilifying biotechnology and pharmaceutical companies, they will save the day and save the economy. we should be thankful we live in this country with such a healthy drug development regiment. >> the good news, i think, is all the dire predictions that we

have been hearing about don't factor in the human creativity and human innovation that come out of individuals, just by self distancing. you being far away from me is saving lives. >> i never thought of it that way. it could be. but i must say, i am delighted that we see this kind of potential for innovation. i think it is what is going to be miraculous. we have so many smart and committed people trying to come up with answers, it is difficult to take on a virus. if they give you tamiflu, you have to take it within the first few hours of the symptoms. if you get something now, and you have to give it to people, there is so much to be determined. what does worry me is when i see the president tweeted out recently, we don't want that you are to be worse than the illne illness.

there were reports, he is getting tired of all the medical experts saying you need to social distance, we can't just have everybody rush back. he is right, in thinking what about the economy? how far do we go with this at the risk of having our economy shut down? but i do think at this juncture, i hope the president even as you describe it as cheerleading, i hope you would understand that you have to listen to dr. fauci, to the surgeon general, and others who are experts in the field at this moment. i think this is right now, at this moment, a medical crisis. >> jesse, what are your thoughts on this? are you optimistic? >> i am optimistic, also realistic. this country was hopeful after pearl harbor, after 9/11, after the great recession, we can still be helpful now during the pandemic. there is nothing wrong with that, everybody assesses risk differently whether it is experiment of drugs or social distancing, that doesn't make

people that are optimistic bad people, not everything has to be a doomsday scenario. we are seeing positive signs like apple for instance is donating 1 million masks, we have mobilized the national guard. they are sending a navy ship that has a hospital inside of it to new york harbor next week. am i saying everything is perfect? absolutely not. we need to ramp up the defense production act to get these masks, these ventilators, hospital products out there as soon as possible. we need more testing, desperately in this country. perhaps we issue war bonds so the consumer can be more confident. but looking back afterwards, this is going to be over. we are going to see ourselves in a whole new way. we got to cook our own food, spend time with loved ones, maybe explore different things that we haven't thought about, and we are going to come out of this okay. >> what did you explore?

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>> welcome back, you are looking room. any moment now, the coronavirus task force will give us an update on the pandemic and we will take you live there once it begins. in the meantime, we told you this is going to happen. officials all over the country have been urging americans, especially those in the younger generation, to practice social distancing. as we showed you last week, that plea was not resonating with

many college students who filled the florida beaches for spring break and now we are getting reports that some of those spring breakers are testing positive for coronavirus after returning from their trip. in miami-dade county, boat ramps and marinas had to be closed after people held large parties on the water this weekend. here in new york, governor andrew cuomo is scolding residents for not taking social distancing more seriously. watch. >> you would think there was nothing going on in parts of new york city. you would think it was just a bright, sunny saturday. i don't know what i am saying that people don't get. it is in sa is insensitive, arr, disrespectful, self-destructive to other people, and it has to stop and it has to stop now. >> greg, we talked about this last week, when

governor desantis close to those beaches and said no more spring break, all those people were going to go somewhere and they are taking the positive coronavirus with them wherever they go. >> they didn't just test positive for the coronavirus, they tested positive for being. they went home, and they may increase risk for transmission among their family who might be medically compromised or older. this is an issue with dumb human beings who can't compare short-term benefits to long-term consequent is. so we bear the brunt of our idiot brother end. it is why we have to be overcautious and use fear to get these idiots to react, because they ignore the information but they don't ignore fear, in this case they ignored both. >> jesse, i know that you had a couple of those guys on your show. do you think that any of them may be have learned a lesson?

>> hard to say, i think they have absorbed the information. the lesson, i am not so sure. i don't want to get into the name-calling that greg does, i am about that. that is not what i do. >> it was my new year's resolution. i am sticking to it. to be fair, to some americans, this is a very fluid situation. a month ago, dr. fauci was talking about hand washing. and sneezing into her elbow. we weren't even talking about social distancing a month ago when people were booking trips online. and i have to be honest with y you, am i surprised that college students aren't aware of what is going on? i made a career out of that. things trickle down and it gets to them last. finally, it is getting to them and hopefully they can change their behavior. they ranked the country's ability to deal with this, they

say the governors are doing great, trump is doing great, federal agencies are doing great, and people are doing worst are the average american's out the streets. they have a lot to learn, this isn't like china, in china they forcibly will pull you out of your house and force you into isolation. they track your movement with facial recognition technology, they buzzed drones to scare you out of there. in south korea, they stick a thermometer in you before you board a bus. at some of those things are unconstitutional in this country, that would never happen here. we do have to get it together. >> it is an opportunity to do your civic duty, my mom in colorado said a lot of the things this weekend, they didn't want to go and do isolated walks because people were playing basketball and having a great time like it was vacation.

it is an opportunity as a family or perhaps to think about doing for your something for your country. >> one of the things about being 18-21 is you think 30-year-olds aren't to be trusted, but also you think i am never going to die. why would i worry about that? i am never going to get sick, i am going to get on this motorcycle and i am going to a wheelie. that is the way you think at that age, i think a lot of these folks have very short term concept and i want to pick up on something some of us said earlier which is it is not just about you, young folks. you come home and your parents are there or someone who might be adequate compromised is there, they get sick, it is a life-threatening disease. you can't say that and get through. i thought governor cuomo was quite good, the other part of this is people are getting stir crazy even after one week in the

house. a lot of times you think you might go to the park or for a walk, what is the big deal? i will gpeople have to tell they home right now, it's too soon. you have to stay home right now. >> it is hard. there is some benefit, i have enjoyed spending time, we are still working thankfully we are able to still work, but it has been nice to spend time with husband or significant other or whoever, your dog. i have enjoyed it. >> i enjoyed that part as long as i don't go out of the house, because clearly ignorance, arrogance, and idiocy are enjoyed not just by the young, but by the old. college students don't own boats, you saw the video of all those people out there in miami on their boats. they are not yachts, but they cost a pretty penny. just because i am stuck here in

new york city, if you are a new yorker and a dude and you are a jerk, stay in your house. to the guy who tried to kick my 10-pound dog because he was in his way, i was trying to social distance from my friend talking to her on the sidewalk, and the guys kept walking between two of us because they were in a hurry to go nowhere. or the dude riding a city bike and ringing his bell people to to get out of his way on the sidewalk, so the next time i encounter any of you, i will take a photo of you and put it on the internet. then i'm going to do it as y "one more thing." >> we have a new printer yesterday, peter had to set it up and it was making so many beeping noises and it took all my patients to not lose it. >> you are truly a hero, dana. >> we were waiting for the

briefing here for the president, will be late for that tell me wt do you think would be helpful for people for this message, just a president need to be even more forceful asking people to please stay home to mark as you said, we are flattening the curve. it is working. >> i will borrow something, they made a great point. if it is wartime, the president has to actually personally ask the citizens to help in the war. he has to go to young people and say look, you are going into battle so you should feel great about this. he has to personally say i want you to do this. if you need to go and do this. this is a war against an invisible enemy which we said before. i don't want to look back five or ten years from now and say i

was a real loser, i know how that feels. you can look back and go we did it. >> we did it. we did it together, and it feels weird because all you are really being asked to do is stay home. it doesn't feel like you are sacrificing that much. but there are other ways to help, we were talking earlier today about washington state, the governor has asked people if they can to help make some masks. he is asking for 1 million mas masks. in the videos we have, they have gotten plans and are making as many as i can. there might be a way to helping your community that would keep you busy. >> the way this country mobilized during world war ii, you have all hands on deck and just mass-producing everything. we read something in "the new york post" today, there was a couple that through a wedding at a church and had a whole ceremony with the crowd ad

everything like that, the reporter afterwards came up to the newlyweds and said guys, you are not supposed to be really doing this right now. they told him, i can't say on television. there are some people that just aren't getting it, perhaps the president could have said that during the address from the oval office. i would have been a great opportunity to use that moment to galvanize americans to practice social distancing. although, the phrase social distancing, not only is it hard to say, it doesn't roll off the tongue, but it flies over everyone's head. how about just stay at home? just say at home, and behave yourself. >> well, i talked to my eye won't say it who it is, i talked to a family member of mine who is an introvert, i checked on her and she said to be honest, this is how my life is all the

time. blessed are the introverts at this time. >> this weekend was a normal weekend for me, i talked to my dogs, doolittle stage plays in the middle of the living roo room, i watched the tiger king which was a trip down insanity lane. that was fantastic, again i think we need to ban anybody under the age of 30 from buying hardy seltzer. you know they are taking it to a party. they are everywhere, they are on my roof. i have heard them in the elevator in my building saying i am so stir crazy, i have been working from home for two weeks. i am like why do you think you're working from home? so you don't spread the virus, but. then i'm end up being the get off my lawn guy, i don't even have a long period of >> one

thing that i heard from a friend in virginia, he has to teenage daughters. they're having to go to the grocery store as often as they can and keep them occupied, for gina announced today they will not return to school this academic year. the liquor stores are essential. >> i think for a lot of people that is the case, i was telling you last week i had the unusual experience of being home and going to the grocery store occasionally. even that is something we have to watch, i it's not a totally safe environment. some are open early for elderly people or people with compromised immune systems. in some cases they will deliver or bring to your car for you. i think that the key is a sense of understanding the magnitude

of this moment. america is changing, life is changing. if you don't understand what is going on, i think you are closing your eyes. it is al almost purposeful at ts point. it is one thing to do the occasional let one kid that you know from a neighboring house, but even going to the playground has got to be done with great caution. >> indeed. >> it is your turn, you get to go next. >> thanks, dana. the white house coronavirus task force is set to begin at any moment, we will bring that to you live the moment it starts. it don't go anywhere, in the meantime i will tell you about joe biden reportedly taking pressure from donors to challenge president trump on the coronavirus pandemic in public. the former vice president reappearing in a live screen earlier today to go after the

president, take a look. >> he is a wartime president, start to act like one. donald trump is not to be blamed for the coronavirus, but he does their responsibility for our response. >> hi. we are still waiting on the briefing now. i get that the white house, we will see when that comes. let me ask you, the idea of democrats pressuring biden to get out there a little more and biden saying yeah, here i am now oon the live stream. you think that's a good idea? >> for him, it is a good idea if he can show his ability to talk to people who are suffering. he is experienced a great deal of loss in his life, he understands heartbreak, loss, redemption and recovery here at he lost his daughter and his wife early in the 1970s, and

the death of his son from brain cancer. that is joe biden at his best. when he starts talking about the government's response and what president trump is doing, and he starts criticizing it regularly, it looks like he is getting in the way of the government helping people who are sick, or who might be sick, or who are out of jobs, who are struggling to pay their bills. there is a very fine line. i think less is more here, this is really on president trump, not joe biden. >> jesse, when you hear from biden as the perceptive nominee, do you agree that in a sense the american people do want to hear from him and know that he is paying attention to what is the dominant political topic as well as medical topic and economic topic of the moment? >> they want to hear from him. it doesn't seem like biden wants to get out there, he hasn't done

a national tv interview in two weeks. he hasn't done a national tv interview in two weeks. i don't know where joe is, i think it is good that now he is broadcasting. the back whatever these are from his library, i feel bad for him. he has been clearly quarantined, that has never happened in american history. he can't hold fund-raisers, he can't connect with voters, it is not good but he does need to do more. he needs to get out and do interviews, they can send a satellite to his house. he can go to his studio in washington, d.c., everybody else is. i expect them to criticize the president, that is fine, this is an election year, i get it. but just be careful, when biden says the president has been to slow, bald, the president called for a travel ban on china and joe biden said that was racist. he failed that test, he needs to

be careful about what he criticizes and how he criticizes. it is a challenge i am not sure he is up to the task. >> greg, a lot of people are saying wait a minute, this is so interesting a political moment. biden did a three and a half minute video on u.s. and iran relations, it was a big hit. i think it is like the fifth most viewed video on facebook. now, if you want to give money to him he will get somehow do a face time with you so you can see him and have a sense of being with him. it's a different kind of campaign. >> i think the biden robots did a great job. it's funny watching him deal with technology, it is amusing. i think right now, doing these things, he is like some guy outside your window yelling at you. you kind of hope he just moves

on. he should have sat down and said hey, look, my producer says i have to get out and talk about this. i know it's an election year, but this election is less important than all of us banding together to fight this immense challenge together. that would be amazing, i would say that was a good thing. you want him to move out of the way, shut up old man, we have work to do. >> dana, how would you handle that having been at the white house through the midst of all the politics in different times in america? you hear some of the democratic governors and the president going at it, they call each other names, they criticize, how do you handle that properly at this very difficult moment? >> i have to say, i really don't know. as you said, it is unprecedent unprecedented. in a way, if you think back to

2008, you had obama and mccain nominations and they were fighting it out. the financial crisis happened in late august through september, beginning of october. and basically, both of them could run against the incumbent. this to me feels different. if we didn't talk to social distance, i would imagine joe biden could go out on tour. once this is over, outside of the coronavirus that's what i would do as president. simply attacking the commander-in-chief's handling of the virus, i think that's dangerous. trying to be transparent and criticize, that's fine. i know that joe biden, he doesn't seem like he has his heart in it. he has to figure out a way to differentiate himself from the president. in a way, i feel like if you just took a break for three

weeks, we are still going to be here. just a month ago we were talking about impeachment, that feels like a lifetime ago. >> it really does. >> remember that? >> there's a lot of criticism, it is a difficult dance for everybody. the white house coronavirus task force as we have mentioned is set to begin at any moment. we will bring that to you live, once it starts. stay with us, right here on "the five." not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it - with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa

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>> welcome back, we are still waiting for that press conference from the white house coronavirus task force. 40,000 people testing positive for the virus, more than 500 people dead. as senate democrats and republicans squabble over phase three of the coronavirus stimulus package. i will quote the ceo today, who said the disruption from this is bigger and greater than 9/11 and the financial crisis in 2008 combined. >> i would believe that, in 2008 that was very much the u.s.,

very much based on the u.s. at the hilton ceo that was at the meeting with the white house and president just last week, he said they were at a 15% occupany rate all around the world. the step that they are having to take, that is the thing when i find myself feeling anxious at this time, or i sometimes realize i am not breathing it is partly because i am overwhelmed with worry about people who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own, a lot of people live paycheck to paycheck, i hope one of the reasons the president is not of the podium that is because he is going to come and say they have a deal, and this is going to get done because we really owe it to people. we will bounce back, the stock market will come back, the jobs will come back, they were there. it was the virus that did this to people.

i hope we can support our people, we know these are tough folks but go ahead and do it because the better off we will be in the long run. >> that old quote from rahm emanuel when he was a chief of staff for obama, you never want a serious crisis to go to waste. that seems to be some of what is going on. >> the prison of two ideas, where people get into their intellectual and ideological camps and they can't see all the different positions one could take between those two camps. we are seeing that in this upcoming conflict between dealing with the pandemic and saving the economy. that becomes the prison of two ideas, when in fact you can actually do things in phases and figure out how to save the economy while treating and preventing this pandemic from getting worse. like in phases of reemployment come up we find out that a drug

worked and they are helping people go back to work. maybe that could be into weeks weeks, we don't know. we have to see this, not only as an either or thing, we have to remember what we see. remember who was chasing the russians and who was warning us about china, the guy warning us about china is trump and the people who were chasing the russians word them. >> i think we want to do something quickly, but i don't think you want to do something sloppily. you look back to '08, at that point it was the republicans who shot down a stimulus package bill because they didn't want to act so quickly. then of course, did get together and past. i do think you want action, it is just are you willing to say it is all about big companies,

and yes big companies employ all of us at some level. small companies do business with big companies. incredibly, here i am echoing president trump. if it's about allowing big companies to take in the money, not keep all their employees and instead invest the money in buybacks and have the executive take the big pay hike on the basis of the buybacks, that is not what we want from this money. we want this money to flow into the pockets of people who are being hurt in this moment to so they can spend money and get our economy moving. >> it will, jesse. millions of people are lining up for unemployment, these enhanced unemployment benefits. again, if you don't make sure these companies are in business three months or six months from now, these people have been laid off won't have anywhere to go

work. it is just a simple as that. >> if you are having restaurant groups, there are no restaurants open. they are losing so much money, they are laying off staff. they inject capital into the restaurant, so they don't have to fire, so they don't have to cut their benefits. that is the reason money would go into what the democrats say big business. on the other hand, much more needs to be given to regular working americans. $1200 or double it if you are a family of four, $3,000. that is a bridge to april. what happens in may? they still need that money if they don't have jobs, if they don't open their small business, if everything shudders. the president has to be very careful, because right now this

is a phase attack on this. he has to basically crash the car without killing anybody, but not totaled the car beyond repair. it is a very difficult situation, he is coming off two years of being called a traitor, they impeached him when this virus was starting to hit, and now they are saying this guy doesn't care about the work, he is just trying to bail out his buddies and big business. this is a very challenging time, joe biden and the democrats and nancy pelosi need to do a better job of coming together to take bipartisan action to support the economy. carnage is right around the corner. in a couple weeks or months or however long it takes to get out of this, we can look back and say china, american manufacturing, health care in this country, these are the things that are going to be at

the forefront of u.s. policy. and drive us into the next century. right now, we need to act fast and big, and the dillydallying by nancy, inserting the green new deal into a rescue package, has every american thinking what are you doing? >> can i mention something? there are some people who aren't waiting, who are actually doing something. this is going to be my "one more thing," i think it fits. there is a couple named bryant and michael lauren, they are in belmont new jersey. they own a pizza joint, they took out $50,000 line of credit so they can keep paying their employees. he wants to take care of his workers, he wants to take care of them over the next two months at least. there is somebody who is

actually saying, i can't wait on congress. hopefully congress will come through, and be able to help them but some of you like this, federico's pizza in belmont new jersey where you have the owners. you have to take care of your employees first, because without those employees, you don't have a business at all. the brothers ryan and michael lauren. >> democrats have to stick to the narrative that this is bad, ceos are evil despite the fact that this would save jobs. acting quickly if the difference between a horrible short-term downturn and a depression. >> to jesse's point, you almost have to let this thing go until he gets bad because you want to make sure you beat this virus without losing the economy. you get all the way to that end and then all of a sudden you will stop, everything is going

to go boom and the economy is going to take off. i believe that. it is going to look bad, when you are getting to the end it will look bad. you are getting all the way there, then you will pull back because you are going to have to. and it is always going to look really bad until it becomes better. that's what i'm saying. >> the opposite of a roller coaster. >> i guess. i just want to tell you something, i was in the liquor store on sunday and i walked in, "the new york times" was in there filming and they were filming while i was trying to buy one. i had to leave. that is antibusiness. >> liquor store on a sunday? >> there is a great wine store in manhattan, manhattan wine. they will deliver curbside. you can order online and they will bring it out. >> i think greg went to communion. >> i was looking for the altar one. >> you talk about urgency, why

doesn't the president he was that defense act. >> never miss an episode of "the five," special report up next.♪ >> bret: good evening, i'm bret baier. breaking tonight we are waiting for president trump and his coronavirus task force with in the briefing room. we will bring you that as soon as it happens. overnight the president tweeted the cure cannot become worse than the problem itself. and suddenly acknowledgment of the growing public discomfort over the economic ramifications and wide and broad to containment measures. also tonight the u.s. senate fails a second time to advance massive stimulus stomach stimulus deal in the argument on the floor got heated, very heat. the capitol hill field and another down day on wall street. as the u.s. death toll in