because, you are the best of us. you are the best of us. and whenever we call on you, you are there. and what you did in this facility in one week creating a hospital is just incredible. i don't know how you did it. you did such a good job, that i am asking for four more from the president. that is the downside of being as good as you are at what you did. but what you did is really incredible. and i want to make two points to you. and i want to make two promises to you. this is a different beast that we are dealing with. this is an invisible beast. it is an insidious beast. this is not going to be a short deployment. this is not going to be that you go out there for a few days, we

work hard, and we go home. this is going to be weeks and weeks and weeks. this is going to be a long day. and it's going to be a hard day. and it's going to be an ugly day. and it's going to be a sad day. this is a rescue mission that you are on. the mission is to save lives. that's what you're doing. the rescue mission is to save lives. and as hard as we work, we are not going to be able to save everyone. and what is even more cruel is this enemy does not attack the strongest of us, it attacks the weakest of us. it attacks are most vulnerable. which makes it even worse in many ways. because these are the people that every instinct tells us, we

are supposed to protect. these are our parents and our grandparents. these are our aunts, our uncles. these are the relatives that are sick. and every instinct says, protect them. help them. because they need us. and those are the exact people that this enemy attacks. every time i have called out the national guard, i've said the same thing to you. i promise you i will not ask you to do anything that i will not do myself. and i'll never ask you to go anywhere that i won't go myself. and the same is true here. we are going to do this. and we are going to do this together. my second point is, you are living a moment in history.

this is going to be one of those moments that they are going to right about and they are going to talk about for generations. this is a moment that is going to change this nation. this is a moment that forges character, forges people. changes people. makes them stronger, makes them weaker, but this is a moment that will change character. and ten years from now, you will be talking about today to your children or your grandchildren, and you will shed a tear because you will remember the lives lo lost, and you will remember the faces. and you will remember the names. and you will remember how hard

we worked. and that we still lost loved ones. and you'll shed a tear. and you should. because it will be sad. but you will also be proud. you will be proud of what you did. will be be proud that you showed up. you showed up when other people played it safe, you had the courage to show up. and you had the skill and the professionalism to make a difference and save lives. that's what you will have done. and at the end of the day, nobody can ask anything more from you. that is your duty, to do what you can when you can.

and you will have shown skill and courage and talent. you will be there with your mind. you'll be there up with your heart. and you'll serve with honor. and that will give you pride. and you should be proud. i know that i am proud of you. and every time the national guard has been called out, they have made every new yorker proud. and i am proud to be with you yet again. and i am proud to fight this fight with you. and i bring you thanks from all new yorkers, who are just so appreciative of the sacrifice that you are making, the skill that you are bringing, the talent you are bringing, and you

give many new yorkers confidence. so i say, my friends, that we go out there today and we kick coronavirus ass. that's what i say. and we are going to save lives. new yorkers thank you. god bless each and every one of you. [applause] >> melissa: you are listening to new york governor cuomo right there saying that hospitalizations now doubling every four days were just a short time ago they were doubling every three days. also saying that new york needs to build four additional temporary hospitals. in the meantime, a grim milestone in the battle against the coronavirus pandemic as united states now tops every other country in terms of confirmed cases. right now there are more than 80

86,000 documented cases in our country. the death toll passing 1300. this as president trump says his administration is working on new guidelines for confronting the pandemic. advising state governors on whether to relax or enhance social distancing measures. based on whether certain counties are low, medium, or high risk for the virus. >> i sent a letter to american governors saying how we will be using the data to updating existing guidance on social distancing, which will be in accordance with the public officials. people want to go back to work. i am it loud and clear from everybody. we will see what happens. we will have a lot more information early next week and we will be reporting that back. >> melissa: this is "outnumbered" and i am melissa francis. here today is her

harris faulkner, fox news contributor, we also have pete hegseth here on the virtual couch, author of the forthcoming book, "american crusade" he is outnumbered. boy, a lot of moving parts tod today. dr. saphier, let me start with you. what do you think of the idea that the hospitalizations are doubling at a slower rate here in new york city, you know, every four days instead of every three days is that a sign of hope? >> melissa, of course, that is a sign of hope. it is great news, a little bit better than i expected. we heard the doubling rate was every two days last sunday and a couple days later they were saying it was 4.7. i anticipate a lot has to do with our ways of mitigating community spreads with all the social distancing measures. one thing that governor cuomo mentioned that i assume will cause some panic as he talked about the potential 21 day apex

here in new york city. to be honest, that is concerning meaning that they think we will continue the acceleration phase of cases for another 21 days before we potentially might seeing that equilibrium. you want to couple that with kind of what dr. birx was saying last night in the briefing that we have to be careful when we look at some of these at b of the immunological models, because modeling might not be that accurate. especially when we are dealing with a novel coronavirus. they do not take into effect some of the measures that are being implemented right now. although we are seeing a rise in cases, it is interesting to note that the doubling time is prolonging. >> melissa: pete, it is encouraging to see all of our nation's heroes coming to the rescue, whether it is the health care workers, but also the idea that you have these giant naval ships, the one that was coming to new york, arriving next week, supposed to arrive next month. they have step that up.

i mean, it is that ceiling that help is coming. >> pete: i think that's what people are looking for. they're looking for the briefing that governor cuomo gave. it is heartening to hear the increase is decreasing slightly right now even though we have not reached the apex. and it feels like our government is getting its arms around this at the federal level very strongly. in a way that people can feel comfortable about. i really like with the president is doing here. low risk, medium risk, high risk. if you make sure people are careful of where they travel in their own interactions, there is no reason why you can't start to treat different parts of the country differently based on the risk level. and giving those areas and opportunity to bring economic vitality back. to the extent that you can localize it. i know that's not possible with the way we travel, but if you have travel restrictions, you can see parts of the country come back sooner and then focus resources to places like

new york and new york city where governor cuomo is on the front lines of this. >> melissa: jillian, is that message and that idea being well-received in d.c.? >> gillian: at the case for d.c. right now, and the trillion dollar question is when the stimulus bill is actually going to pass through the congress once they get it to president trump's desk to sign. because the american people have been waiting weeks. it has been held up for one ridiculous reason after another. and patience across the board is really starting to run thin. the latest in real-time is congressman massey threatening on twitter to put forward a roll call vote on this. we just heard from kevin mccarthy a little while ago. he said that's not going to happen. he is not going allow it to happen. we will see how that pans out. but the bigger picture is that there are only a handful of countries as of today that have over 50,000 confirmed cases. the u.s., sadly, tragically is at the top of that list.

it's really time for the federal government and for congress to step forward and match what the american people are doing, which has really been an incredible effort, front line work, medical workers, service members. it's time for the fed to be there and back us all up. >> melissa: harris, your thoughts? >> harris: yeah, while jillian was talking, i was looking through at one of our research specialist have confirmed, yes, completely agree, it is eye-popping to think that we leave the world and our numbers at this point, particularly when it comes to cases. however, we are still ninth on the list for deaths. and you say, you don't want to be on any list. you're right, we don't. however, if we have the most cases in the world but we still are further down the list in deaths, that speaks to perhaps something about the virus, something about the way we are treating it, something about the way that we are reacting and

coordinating ourselves off. i want to go to the doctor on that point just to see if those thoughts are true. >> nicole: i would say that that has to do something with her incredible health system in the united states which is constantly under scrutiny t in terms of partisan politics. but we do have a robust health system in the united states. it is, we are very strong. we have some of the most highly trained physicians and nurses. and importantly, what is happening in new york right now is we have had about a 13% decrease in hospital beds per capita because of the medicaid expansion and essentially bankrupting of new york city because of that. we have had 20 hospitals close in the last couple of decades because of certain partisan politics. and governor cuomo even said less than a decade ago i accept that we will have fewer hospital beds to expand medicaid, and to do that we will push people so

that they have more outpatient health care services, but that is what has happened here. the truth is we still have a very strong health system in the united states. and the reason we have a lot of cases is because we are doing a lot of testing right now. but also because we have a lot of international travel. even though we had an early travel ban, we did not shut down our borders and therefore we had a lot of people still, and whether it was for a business or vacation, they came in. and we had community spread. the bottom line is we want to keep people alive and out of the hospital. and i think that these numbers are reflecting that we are able to do that, but as cuomo mentioned, we are doing everything we can to get as many beds as possible to care for as many people as possible, if you been watching the president tweets, he is saying, get us those ventilators. we may not need all of them, but wouldn't it be great just to have a few extra just in case? >> melissa: yes, she talks about the shut down, maybe we needed to do that sooner, you think back when the president

announced that he was closing our borders to people coming in from china, you think about the night that he announced that he was closing down travel coming from europe, and just the reaction at the time, and now, not so many days later, those items almost seem quaint. we have done so much since then. >> pete: you cannot say that the president has not taken mysteriously from the beginning. i saw, my friend brian kilmeade sent me a audio clip of dr. fauci in mid-january saying, we don't know how bad or how big this will be, there were a lot of people at that time wondering how big could this become. code early restrictions keep it at bay. ultimately the reason why we see the numbers, i love what dr. saphier said about international travel, it's true, a wealthy nation like ours where citizens travel around the globe makes yourself a little bit more vulnerable, but you can trust the metrics from this country. we are doing a lot of testing. i am watching a guy like

governor cuomo who i do not agree with politically at all, but i trust the words he is saying, because i think it's facts are being verified by the hospitals and he wants to get the information out to the public. you cannot trust a word china has said about what they have reported on the number of cases, deaths, illnesses. so wipe that aside, and america is probably that we face. >> melissa: thanks, guys. the white house white house coronavirus task force responding to disturbing reports that hospitals are debating do not resuscitate orders for some coronavirus patients. plus house lawmakers debating the coronavirus relief bill today ahead of an expected vote as a fox news poll gives us an idea of how many americans fear a recession. ♪ (bobby) with your hearing, if you start having a little trouble,

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>> harris: taking a look at capitol hill right now, the house is debating the senate approved $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package ahead of a vote which is expected today. and once it is past, it will head to president trump's desk for his signature. there have been some interesting moments. to some hiccups, you might say. it could be stalled. one representative massey is calling for an actual lengthening of this program by roll call. we are watching it closely and we will bring in the news as it happens from the house floor. this is also happening. unemployment claims are skyrocketing to a record high. a fox news poll finds 89% of registered voters are very or somewhat concerned about an economic recession.

pete, i know that this is something on fox & friends have been spending a lot of time on today as you talk to house members and so forth. what is the feeling out of the white house that you have been able to gleam on the issue? >> pete: that you have to go big and you have to go now. they hit will be hard, and it is coming soon. it already has happening for people. but the quicker you get money in their pockets and the quicker you get small businesses the opportunity to receive low interest or no interest loans so that they can retain their employees, the longer you can have people do okay or manage their way as we medically slow to curb so that the sky rocket on the other end is as quick as possible. that's what you want. you want the economy in a slow burn so that you are not going to prevent the down, but keep it so that it does not go all the way down so that people aren't in a place where they can go up quickly after it happens. that's what they are focused on. that's why there is so much urgency. a lot of us do not love the

aspects of the bill. there is wasteful spending, but it goes where it should go. >> harris: there always is, because everybody brings their wish list to the table and they try to push things off. this is an emergency. they need to get things done. melissa, since we have been on the air, i've been watching the dow. i have you in my head echoing, wall street hates this when they are fighting and i can't make up their minds and they have not moved yet and it is friday afternoon! tell me when wall street will decide that they are back in the green, just according to what we have seen. >> melissa: what they are really trying to do is decide how much damage is permanent. that is the question that every investor, every ceo, everyone tied to the economics of this country is trying to assess right now is how much of this can you turn back on when it is over? and how much is going to be gone permanently? we heard the story yesterday about the cheesecake factory not paying its rent anywhere. that is one of the stories that

we have been kicking around on the business side. they're a bunch of things going to that decision. you have companies that had businesses that weren't necessarily doing that right before this, now they will re-assess and say i will close some of my restaurants that were dying before any of this even happened. so those jobs are going to go away. this may have been the thing that tipped the scale, but the damage was artie there. on the stuff that was very robust before this hit, that is going to come back. but that is the difference in one of the things that everyone is trying to assess. >> harris: that is so fascinating. and what you are saying is is that this is not causing a problem as it is revealing a problem for some of these companies. and to that is fascinating. because we are definitely eating differently with the take out in the curbside pickup and all of that. you look like you have a quick last thought, melissa. >> melissa: no, that is such a great way to put it. it is not necessarily causing

all of the problems. yes, some of them. the ones it causes can come back quickly, but it is revealing ones that were already there. because when you are at full employment and the economy is expanding, there is stuff that goes along the way that is not economically smart. that stuff will not come back. the plan in washington is supposed to help the employees of all the businesses. that are now without work. whether they were working for one that is going to go away or working for one that will come back. that's what they need to focus on. >> gillian: a quick point on that, the stock market being one metric on overall health, but the reason we need to get the bill passed through congress is because there is another very important metric especially right now during the pandemic which is how our families doing? how are small businesses doing? all of this is headed nowhere very quickly. >> harris: i hear you. we will come back and continue here on "outnumbered." on the front lines of the pandemic, more reports of

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>> melissa: health care workers fighting the coronavirus outbreak across the country are increasingly falling ill to the virus and worse. new reports of a nurse in st. louis, two health care workers in georgia, and a nurse in new york city all passing away after testing positive. meanwhile in the boston area, more than 160 workers at multiple hospitals reportedly contracting covid-19. this made a shocking report from buzzfeed that out of the ten states with the most infections and deaths at the time, california was the only one

publicly reporting on infected health care workers. dr. saphier, it is so scary and distressing, you know, i went down on street level to get some more basic supplies. and when i was walking around, the only people i saw on the street were wearing scrubs. they are really our heroes right now. and it feels like we are not doing nearly enough to protect them. what are your thoughts? >> nicole: this obviously touches very close to home. there's a reason i am in a studio. i am on medication myself, and i'm compromised if i were to go in the hospital. my husband who is a neurosurgeon goes in and is treating emergencies, ruptured brain aneurysms and strokes. he is terrified coming home every day fearful that he will bring something home. i have many friends who i know have tested positive or know a colleague that has. we have about 10% of the cases in italy were actually in health care workers and about a

third or a fourth of the patients hospitalized in china were health care workers. and a lot of that has to do, china has to do with poor information. they were telling the patients early on that this was not a contagious disease. in italy, unfortunately, they did not have enough personal protective equipment. the masks that were necessary. and in the united states, unfortunately, this is a highly contagious virus. and a lot of people are coming into health care facilities, outpatient, inpatient. and people are not walking and wearing a mask, so people will be exposed. when we are asked to reuse certain masks and our ppe, that will put health care workers at an increased risk of exposure and infection. i am terribly concerned about this. this is why i have been pleading with people to stay home. if you don't have to go into the hospitals or go to your doctor's office, stay at home and pick up the phone. because that's how you are going to keep you and those around you charged with the responsibility of caring for people healthy.

>> melissa: harris, what do you make of the reports that we see? you have health care workers saying that they don't need the stuff they need, and then you have local government officials or hospitals themselves contradicting the health care workers, how do we sort through it? >> harris: something really hit me as we have been talking with members of the task force by the white house and the president himself this week, and it is this idea, and you hear the task force members saying we want the hospitals to report back what materials they have so that we can look at different communities and see who needs what. the problem is they don't have time in many cases to do that. i have talked with physicians assistants from l.a. to connecticut, and they say, oftentimes i am the person person behind the doctor or the nurse who is tasked with going to do this administratively a lot of those people are working from home and some instances, even in the health care system. of those people who might be

counting the beans, if you will. there is a disturbing thing that i have picked up on from talking with the physician assistants from coast-to-coast. unless you are symptomatic, even the health care workers are not first in line for those tests. and i am wondering if more of them might be carrying around the viral load then we know. because they are so exposed as dr. saphier said. it is different if i walk in and i have a little something and it is visible that i don't feel well. but when you are working on a patient who is filled with a high viral load, you are even more exposed. >> dr. saphier: absolutely. when you are not given in n95 or you do not have the proper ppe, you will get affected with the virus. and the truth is, harris. you mentioned the bean counting, there are so many administrative tasks right now that physicians and the administrators, and the nurses have to do that we don't have time to do all the checkmarks. i will say president trump has taken certain efforts to relax

some of the standards and things that we have to do. but as melissa said in the last block, this is really going to highlight weaknesses of the systems. hopefully when we get to the other side of this, because we will. and when we do, we will realize that a lot of the metrics that were imposed in certain health care policies, are really substandard and not something we need to do in our day-to-day. because it will be costing liv lives. >> melissa: in the meantime, several northeastern medical schools offering early graduation to fourth-year students in an effort to get more workers to the front lines as soon as possible. earlier this week new york university became the first school to announce such measures. yesterday the medical programs at boston university, and the university of massachusetts said that they would let students graduate in april. harvard medical school is actively considering the same step. dr. saphier, does that make sense or is it dangerous?

>> dr. saphier: well, you know, i would really want to know the reasoning behind that. because let me know you -- tell u.s. enmity back in the day, we are not qualified to do anything. when you graduate those four years, then you do your internship. an unaided five years of training before i put on my doctor jacket. i did not know how to draw blood at that time. we only have a year a two about seeing patients in medical school. the majority's classroom study. that is needless to say that you cannot help people, but you are not functioning as a physician. these people are not graduating early and then they are ready to diagnose and prescribe and treat, because i will be honest, they don't know how to do that. i would be very hesitant to give them full licensing authority, because i really worry about the quality of care if we do that. >> melissa: what about nurses, is it the same thing?

>> dr. saphier: same thing. we have all of the metrics in place for a reason. we want to make sure that people are having enough training, and experience and knowledge before we allow them to take care of patients. that's not to say that they can't help. there's a lot of stuff that they can do. early nursing students, medical students but we can use them. we need bodies right now, absolutely. but we need to make sure that we are not just giving them unrestricted ability to treat people. because that causes, that makes me pause for concern greatly. >> melissa: new york state is not just the hardest hit by the pandemic in the u.s., it now tops many countries in coronavirus cases. where the empire state ranks, and why president trump is pushing back against the governor's pleas for more medical devices. ♪ chip like this to crack your whole windshield. with safelite's exclusive resin, you get a strong repair that you can trust. plus, with most insurance a safelite repair is no cost to you.

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>> harris: we know that the coronavirus is continuing to

take a toll on new york, now called the epicenter of all of this in the united states. the focal point of the crisis with more than 44,000 and confirmed cases, and 519 deaths that count. now only five other countries around the world including the united states have more cases than the empire state. and we are ninth in the world for the rate of death. so that was a new statistic this hour that i shared with you. it is important. but despite the staggering statistics, president trump pushing back on new york at governor cuomo's pleas for a lot more respiratory devices to treat infected patients. watch. >> i have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are bigger than they are going to be. i don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. you go into major hospitals and they will have two ventilators, now they are saying, can we

order 30,000 ventilators. >> harris: dr. saphier, i come to you on this. i know there is a growing disparity on who has what, ventilator count and all of that. but here in new york we know in some instances they are doubling up. two people on a ventilator, because they feel like if they go to their stockpile of 1,000, they will go through it very quickly. what do you make of it all? >> dr. saphier: harris, this is a tricky subject. we have seen doubling up a ventilators before in other times of mass trauma, the shooting in las vegas, also some of the hurricanes and flooding's. it is not the first time that this has ever happened. i think that it gets a little touchy when we start arguing about the exact number of ventilators that are needed or anticipated, and that goes into what dr. birx is saying that we have to pause when we started hearing some of the modeling statistics. the truth is if we have 1500 people in icus, and only 3,000 beds and we are still having a

doubling rate even if it is only every four days or five days or six days and we are anticipating the apex to be in another 21 days, it is possible that we could have a shortage of ventilators. i can tell you from my own experience in my hospital and hospital surrounding me. i know that there is a shortage of ventilators. they have not run out yet, but they are getting close. makeshift icus, pacus where we have patients after surgery. i know we are getting tight. i know the president and the state governments are providing more. how many more we are going to need? that will depend on how well we do in mitigating the spread of illness. i do think it is a very fine balance as a president is saying. of the long-term consequences versus the virus. what is the purpose of tackling the virus if we collapse our economic structure. that's what they will have to tackle. i can tell you that we are short in ventilators. >> harris: before we run out

of time, all right, doctor, thank you. pete, i know that just in terms of the politicking that goes on. and i have been really politically light, right, but you cannot ignore the fact that the president and governor cuomo are working in concert, they are daily a tandem or instep. >> pete: it's a great thing to see. you want that. the president who has a federal view will have to push back on the worst-case scenario of every state. at the same time, new york city is the epicenter. so you are going to be focused they are. he was also critical of the governor of washington, the governor of michigan, because they were complaining about the federal government response. ultimately, everybody recognizes that the president is willing to work with anyone in good faith. and that states need to take the lead. you have to say, this is my state and my region. i am the commander of this area, and i will take whatever i can get from the federal government as they work to supplement that. it's not going to be 30-40000

ventilators from the federal government. i don't really understand why, but you do what you can to get ask quickly as you can in capable hands and do the best from there. >> harris: you know, gillian, it is so confusing, we found reports of millions of ventilators in the back of out, i saw some video where people were taking them out of storage somewhere where they found them somewhere. it is confusing. i don't know that there was a price to be looking for ventilators as much as we are right now. >> gillian: book, at the end of the day, the big picture on the medical side is that every country in the world is going to get a coronavirus report card. how well did the government, how well did their people respond to this crisis? how well did the government manage it? it is too early for report cards and political scores. but we know that there has been a test testing shortage from when it made its ways to the united states. we have some reports in her

local hospital and others in new york of ventilator shortages. however many there are and aren't, and however many there are on the way, we know that some hospitals in the united states now need more. it is a governments job to help the state's figure out how to proportion those best so that they can help treat patients who desperately need them right now. the time for political blame is not right now. this is the time to do,erybody r problem-solving hats and figure this out. >> harris: this is just coming in, it's all most likely queued this, gillian, there are survey findings published by the u.s. conference of mayors, they are warning that u.s. cities and towns could be quickly overwhelmed if community transition of the virus spreads out of control. and they .2 what they are calling acute shortages of masks, test kits also on the list, ventilators as they face the coronavirus threat.

so that is just now coming to us. that u.s. conference of mayors warning that. they add a couple of things to the list. testing has been so paramount in navigating the way forward. melissa, a quick last thought? >> melissa: we will learn so many lessons from this, and who knows if it will apply to the next pandemic. it is all kind of knowledge of too little, too late. >> pete: just like the military, you cannot always prepare to fight the last war. the differenc viruses are diffeu are not necessarily ready for the next one. but dr. saphier knows way more about that than me. >> dr. saphier: not more. >> harris: we have heard the white house say that we will learn more. the coordinator for the white house corona task force is not holding back when reports that hospitals are weighing do not resuscitate orders for people who are gravely ill.

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>> for reassurance for people around the world, creating dnr situations, do not resuscitate situations for patients. there is no situation in the united states right now that warrants that kind of discussi discussion. spill net is white house coronavirus response reporter dr. birx, reporting that there e systemwide do not resuscitate orders for health care workers. you know, dr. saphier, when this was first news a couple of days ago, this is usually a family decision that people are making for someone who is older. i'm curious, because i am reading reports where they are making decisions not necessarily

based on age, but length of time on a ventilator. you heard governor cuomo say, 25 days is a long time to be on a ventilator. he expects the death toll to go up in new york city. and i am wondering, do certain hospitals usher the process along if they take these type of dnr decisions? >> dr. saphier: this is a serious point that i want to make sure that we are clear on. dr. birx is correct when she says there is nothing so far to warrant these discussions to be had. do i see some circulating things talking about certain hospital policies saying if there is a positive covid-19 patient, you are not able to resuscitate them unless you have appropriate ppe, that is going on and that is to protect health care workers. i do think that dnr, do not resuscitate, absolutely should be a patient and their families decision. looking at what happened in italy where they were having to fight for ventilators saying we are going to have to come of

this person is 92 years old with multiple -- we will not put him on a ventilator so we can put a younger person on. we are not there in the united states, we have far more ventilators, four more hospital beds. as he pointed out earlier today, our death rate is different than in other places. we are doing a better job. but as governor cuomo said, most people who are on a ventilator for 2-4 days, that is a breathing machine, it's not just oxygen on your face. that is the tube down your throat whereas these covid-19 patients are on the ventilator significantly longer, anywhere from 14-25 days is a long time. that's precisely why there is so much concern of running out of ventilators, because people are on them for so long. it's going all right, doctor, you mention personal protective equipment, ppe, what we are hearing about. when you're trying to save a life, you have to be wearing that. good to hear that part from you. more "outnumbered" in just a

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>> melissa: thank you to pete hegseth and the rest of our virtual couch. we are back here on monday at noon eastern with our coronavirus coverage continuing now with harris faulkner. ♪ >> harris: this is "coronavirus pandemic: questions answered." i'm harris faulkner. the outbreak has reached a new level of intensity in america. the u.s. has now surpassed china and italy as the most infected nation. with more than 90,000 covid-19 cases, the death toll in the u.s. is more than 1300 people. 23 states and nearly half the american population are now under some sort of movement restriction. speaking of movement, when are they going to vote on capitol hill? a showdown is looming in the house now over the $2 on