the vast majority of people. interestingly, the same insane people the last three and a half years. deranged. thank you for being with us. always fair, looking for the truth. we are not the media mob. laura, you're going to have a great show. >> laura: dataau with you, hannity. i can't believe alec baldwin -- wasn't he supposed to move when bush was president? wasn't he supposed tore be gone when bush got reelected? >> sean: i will pay -- i will hireil a jet to get him to the country of his choice with the promise he can't come back. >> laura: that's the only way he flies, hannity. you don't think he hops on southwest. fantastic show, great to see you. i'm lauren graham, this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. the economy is crashing, people are still dying, time to get congress back to work so they cans figure this all out, but

will they? senator john barrasso and senator devin nunes are here. plus, the mayor of d.c. is threatening to arrest people for going outside. dinesh d'souza and governor mike huckabee expose the latest attempt to make your life miserable. dr. judy hope from "the doctors" joins us later in the hour on what a recession could mean for your mental health. but first, america and shut down day 15. now today, we lost more than 800 americans who tested positive for the kind of virus. that's the largest single day number since this nightmare began. a stunning three quarters of our nightmare began, and the fellow

citizens, with somed sort of stay home order issued by state governors, new york governor who will moan no even california are also offering some hope. >> the slide that gives us great hope and understanding about what is possible. on the bottom of the slide where that is consistent. >> that number , in california, . >> great admin understanding about what is possible in on the bottom of the slide where you can barely see the blue line at the very bottom, that is the current cases in california. a cumulative in california.

whether doing significant testing. the next lineup is connecticut. the orange line is new jersey, the blue line is new york., the yellow line is washington. >> well, congrats and the states, improvements.s but tomorrow is only april 1st, in many of you want more answers and even the disruptions alike, the huge financial poles, american, more are asking why a model for tracking the diseaseum is something that happened so far off? now, the folks have a theory. there is also the issue of inaccurate data. to determine the fatality rate, you have to divide the number of people who have died from the disease by the number of people minfected with the disease. and it states we don't have a reliable account for the number

of people infected so mathematically we don't have the denominator. i already know that somebody early data for the u.s. and u.k. using a model is numbers off by many factors, but most, they don't have the time to dig under the underlying data, so the experts. dr. anthony talked a lot aboutls a -- about the models to rely on to inform the strategies. >> that is what the model tells you to do, the data, really, the models, telling you what is actually going on. models with the assumptions, even though it says according to the model which is a good model, this is more data. that could be modified.

the one back to modified, and indeed, the mortality rate already modified. now, the difference of covid-19 is .6%, mild or asymptomatic cases according to a new study. now, the mortality rate is somewhere between 2% and an unbelievable 3.4% which would be devastating. then another study in the journal nature medicine brought it down by most half 1.4% mortality. but in this new study, researchers dig deep into the data to determine the true fatality ratio that is, that includes the people with mild cases, not asymptomatic at all that may have not encountered ii before. it is really interesting.. the death rate varies by age,

0-9 years old 0.09%, but it was 7.8% as well. but now a mathematician with the study noted that the infections fatality ratio is very important piece of data to help response from public health authorities worldwide. again, they incur main goal, the data matters to all of us, real facts, real science. there should not be referring of all data that can be disclosedig because that will scare people and confuse a lot of people who actually deserve transparency and a full accounting. now, also my message to pelosi -- nancy pelosi, the route you to last night, so, we all hear a lot about a government approach almost every

day, so the question, why is congress out of session? you know a world war ii? >> we have to give americans a realistic ascendance to measure success i in the end. so all the informative and nice to see, but we have to know that parents are asking tonight, what numbers will it take so their kids can go back to school at some point?? maybe next month, the month after or the next. what numbers will it take? what numbers will it take to return to church? it is important for americans to go to church every week. what about travel? what numbers will it take for us to be able to travel to another

state to see a relative? what about going to work? assuming the job last month will even be there next month, the month after or sometime in june? asking these questions, safeguarding our health and welfare and liberties is what all three branches ofan government, the founders understood the brilliant of o te founders, they understood that you need all three branches working together and they should be right now checks and balances. we all love value of the doctors and the health care professionals that are heroes tonight but we also love our freedom and the ability to support our families. so how likely is that that on april 25th, we might hear all we need to do is shut down the early part of june in order to end the curve even more. we better get ready for that message earlier than later. let's discuss those metrics later, not in three weeks.

>> the 30 day plan, is that enough? >> we hope it is enough. we hope it is enough. we hope we are at a level that we can say let's go because the country wants to get back to work. i could ask the doctors to answer that question. >> >> laura: again, back to the number, the level, the numbers. speaking of numbers, this is what she said today. >> what we see in terms of the way this information recommendations have been ruled out, somewhat piecemeal, couple of weeks, now extended on month spirit i had a chance to speak with dr. fauci for the podcast and i asked him, is this part of the strategy to slowly ease the country into these existing and deepening or lengthening

guidelines? he sort of said, yeah, we don't want to shock people with this. we want to look at the data but this is likely to go on beyond april 30th. >> laura: do you hear that? beyond april 30th. your furtive mission, shutting downow the country until mid-summer, that is what we are all hearing here. it would invariably prevent covid-19 deaths, that is a great thing. so it shutting down the entire year. but americans like the doctor need to know what objective success looks like. and whether it is even achievable within a reasonable time frame. and what cost to the family's future and to your basic civil liberties. with that said, despite the media's best effort today, the president knows there is promising theory down mesh theories already being used right now.

>> early data on these trails? >> nothing that i referred to. that is the first question but the good news, we have not heard anything bad. there has been no catastrophic events. >> one a cheerleader for the country so it is easy to be negative and everybody can be negative but i am a cheerleadert i want to do a great job so the numbers can be kept and i've always said i want as few in number of people to die as possible and that is what we are working on purity >> laura: any said america wants to get back to work. trump is doing exactly what he should come is consulting with the scientists and listening to the stakeholders but competently reminding us no matter what the challenge, you better come america is up for it. those are my thoughts at the end of the shutdown, day 15. joining me now with jeff collier

kansas governor and the chair of the national advisory committee on rule health and human services also with me, the cardiologist and ceo studying all these numbers, doctor, you've been a governor, how do you weigh the cost and benefits now of what we are doing today to try to flatten that curve, save lives, but also the president said give people hope these are objective metrics that can be happy in a reasonable amount of time. >> we are at a time where we are seeing science play out before our very eyes. we are starting to get a view what these numbers look like how they bend. so while we have a few questions, we have lots of questions here, we are starting to see things with a little more clarity.

we are starting to see things that work. we are starting to see what therapies may be out there but are really trying to help us. >> laura: dr. fauci said today about hydroxychloroquine, and we will play it, he was asked again, like the president was discussing about what about the merits of these therapies. this is what dr. fauci said. >> we are rushing this stuff through. it was supposed to take a long time to be approved. i prevailed upon the fda to get it approved immediately on the basis that it was already on the market for a lot of years. it would be a total game changer. >> the whole menu of drugs and interventions that are now going into clinical trials that are not approved for anything yet. the drug that you want to show in a good randomized clinical trial, and very best, it's going to take months. >> laura: at very best they're going to take months, doctor. these therapies are being used now all over the united states and indeed all over the world, are they not?

>> absolutely they are, and i think the dr. fauci doesn't seem to appreciate that like in polio, we don't have time to do beautiful randomized clinical trials. we know these drugs have a very good safety margin. very specific, hydroxychloroquine, the major risk factor is that it can causm ekg abnormalities. that is something that is easily monitored. these drugs are clearly effective and safe. they have been around for a long time. they are cheap. they're easy to access. our biggest problem, however, with hydroxychloroquine may be getting enough of it. i thinke we have to think about how we upscale production. the other thing weut need to thk uabout is potentially prophylas for health care workers. with low doses of hydroxychloroquine to prevent them from getting in trouble and getting infected. >> laura: dr. colyer, i've been hearing this for my medicine cabinets as i like to call a lot of you guys, for days and days.

that physicians themselves are taking hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic against themselves coming down with this virus. and perhaps getting seriously ill. dr.d collier, what about that? they are prescribing it to themselves. it's already happening. >> it's already happening. there are patients that are very high risk. you made an intubation in the field with the covid patient. you don't have ppe. you have to give people some options. in a responsible way, we areop seeing people working. there is a study but we are also seeing people using itns appropriately. we are also seeing that if you treat people early in this illness, then they do recover. we have the numbers from france for example. 78 out of 80 hospitalized patients treated early all returned home. >> laura: doctor, a new study that came out just today,

tonight.od the cdc's numbers, they did a survey, we will put it up on the screen, about comorbidities and the virus. patients with covid-19 have at least one underlying health problem. 32%, diabetes, 29% cardiovascular, lung disease, long-term kidney disease. diabetes seems to be a significant driver. again, they are going to do an even bigger survey but this was a significantut number of people that they have already looked at. what are your thoughts on that? >> well, i think my thoughts are that we also don't include so-called prediabetes here. but clearly diabetes is problematic. this will not be the last study that shows this. i think it means that we need to engage in major lifestyle changes. where we are not diabetic anymore. remember half the people overr the age of 65 qualifies as type two diabetic, our diets are

terrible. ando that needs to dramatically change going forward. >> laura: dr. colyer, do those numbers surprising because a lot of the european physicians writing this research paper say opare people dying of covid-19 r in some cases are they dying with covid-19? i'm not a doctor. i don't really know what that meant but it's interesting regarded the comorbidity, doctor, final thought. >> there are a lot of things going on when you have diabetes or these other illnesses. a human is a fragile machine. if everything is -- if one thinb is out of balance, whether it's your sugar or your kidneys or your lungs or your heart, just a little bit can throw people over the edge. that's why we really need more studies. we need more therapy for people early on. >> laura: yeah, and we will i think have in the coming days and i hope very soon more details on that aspect of it. doctors, it's great to see you

both tonight. thank you both for what you do on a daily basis. we really appreciate it. the coronavirus lockdown is already costing of course millions of americans their jobs and businesses. we've never seen numbers like this but some industries are vebeing harder hit than others. my next guest is a major hotel ceo who says he has had to cut 95% of his 7,000 employees. monty bennett is the chairman and ceo of ashford. he joins me now. are you going to be able to bring back these employees if this goes beyond, much beyond april 30? >> >> i sure hope so. this industry is one that takes a long time to recover. even 9/11 or the financial crisis, took us five years and eight years respectively to fully recover from those calamities. this tragedy is worse than those to put together times ten.

it's an absolute disaster for our industry. morgan stanley recently put out a note that u.s. hotels are the hardest hit industry.ou in our business, revenues are 10% above plan,, you do very, very well. if you are 10% below plan, you do very poorly.n, our revenues are 90% below last year. the whole industry. a disaster like we've never seen. >> laura: monty, each business represents dozens and dozens of families, small businesses, and then it goes and in your case to hundreds and thousands of families who are impacted. what are the kinds of messages they are giving you and desire for some certainty to the extent anyone can get certainty in these times. >> a good bit of my time over the past couple weeks has been talking to my associates, many of whom have worked for me for 30 years. it's just heartbreaking, as they

asked when can they come back to work? when will things pick back up and i have to tell them i just have no idea. we just don't know. but if it's like these other crises, less the government acts, it's going to be a very slow recovery which is not in anybody's best interest. but i've got the same ofof all e phone calls and i've gotten in messages and texts from my people, every single one of them, everyone, were messages of gratefulness and faithfulness. even though these people were just furloughed or laid off. it tells you the character of so many americans. it's just been really rewarding in that regard, but at the same time, very heartbreaking for me personally because i know a lot of these people are going to be going through very, very tough times. >> laura: and monty, when you respond to peoplen and say wel, look, the virus doesn't have a deadline, doesn't have a timetable, so we can even talk about business at this point, we shouldn't even be talking about it.

you can't give anybody a date certain. what do you say to that? >> that's exactly right. there is no -- what would be terrible is if we didn't really stomp out this virus but that we kind of took some pat measures and didn't fully go away and then it's reared its head again and we go through all of this again. it might come back again. >> laura: no, no. >> that would be beyond a disaster.>> we've got to take this opportunity to squelch this down and get rid of it once and for all.to and then embark on a recovery. that's the only will we can do this. >> laura: monty, thank you so much for sharing your story. we're going to bring in a lot of business leaders like you. small, medium and large size companies. thank you so much for being here tonight. >> you bet. thank you, laura. >> laura: up ahead we at the "the ingraham angle" are demanding, demanding that congress come back to deal with this coronavirus. will they? senator john barrasso, congressmann devin nunes respond next. [spoken]

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possible, so we can go back to being a free country, if that's the metric, then we all need to know that now. so last night i called on congress to come back. come back to d.c. do your job. be part of the whole of government approach. if that means allocating more money to get a vaccine on the market faster, then so be it. president trump says this is a war. so let's act like it. now as i said earlier, congress was in session almost continuously throughout world war ii. and during mostlm of the disease pandemic in recent history. of course the 1918 spanish flu were members of congress state on capitol hill to pass vital public health legislation. they put their lives on the line literally. that outbreak actually killed a handful of lawmakers. joining me now is senator and doctor, an old friend, owsenator john barrasso, of wyoming. and congressman devin nunes. senator, you're a physician. every time someone has an ache

and pain on capitol hill, they call you up here why not havee congress come back to ask some of these questions about the metrics that we are using, the studies were using. given what's at stake for our country if this shutdown goes on much passed april 30. >> the president called me this morning and his number one concern of course is the health tand safety of the american people. and we have just passed the largest bill in the history of the united states that the president signed, the cares act, aimed at providing our medical caregivers every thing they need to, taking care of our families, our small businesses, and our hard-hit sectors. what we need to do is make sure that is implement improperly. the last thing we need to do is to pass another bill on top of that.mp we need to make sure and i'm visiting with hospital administrators and doctors in wyoming, small business owners, this is where we need to bee making sure that this too

trillion dollar bill is implemented properly. >> laura: congressman nunes, you heard that during the pandemic of 1918, during world war ii, congress was in session almost continuously. svery few breaks. i know everybody wants to get home with their families but i mean, we have americans who are freaking out either from getting this disease, virus, or from losing their job and never getting it back. and they're not sure what the ultimate success rate will look like and they are legitimate questions. thoughts. >> well, look, i think it's important that we get back as soon as possible. but as senator barrasso said, right now we still have an issue that most people and employers and employees don't understand that employers get two weeks of sick leave, still a lot of businesses still have not implemented that. that's a way to keep two weeks of everybody still working. that's part of the money that we

ed in phase one. people don't understand that. and in phase two that we just passed last week, two and a half times the payroll that businesses can go on borrow and get that money ultimately turned into a grant. so i am dealing with all of these issues trying to get this message out. i think quite frankly all of america's politicians and the media could stop looking at the death counters and i think you're very right. we need to look at the death rate. nt see what that's going to do. we need a lot more data. let's stop looking at the death counters and let's talk about how we can keep as many people demployed as possible. that's the key right now, laura, because if you don't, we said earlier is correct. k when you have people staying at home, not taking care oft themselves, you will end up with a hell ofno a lot more people dying by other causes then you will buy the coronavirus. >> laura: senator barrasso, there was a moment at

yesterday's press briefing that a lot of people had their eyebrows raised after watching it. i want to play it for you. watch. >> the road map also talks about doing gps for social distancing, maybe following people's phones and hotels for isolation for people. giving them free hotells rooms. are those ideas that you're looking out? the gps is a very severe idea. i've been hearing about it. gps, a siren goes off you go close to somebody? that's prettyer severe. i just received, i received it a little while ago. >> laura: talking about the road map to recovery. the former commissioner wrote. part of that road map included a possible gps tracking, senator barrasso, of individuals under the state lockdown orders. do you support in any way the administration ever going even close to that. the president certainly didn't

seem to believe that would be something we would require. >> i agree with the president, no i don't think we ought to go ithat way. this coronavirus has impacted the lives and the livelihoods of so many. it should not l impede on our liberties as american citizens. i would be opposed to what they are doing. they are talking about doing that in europe. that's been written about. i can imagine the american people would be willing to do that. the most important thing we can do and you have been really good at pointing this out in terms of jumping ahead of this, doing the kind of research that's being done with all of these different medicines. there are five different medicines being tested, not the old scientific double-blind give them a sugar pill approach. see what's working ind, the fie, even if it isn't a cure. these are medicines that are available and weld know they are safe because people have been taking them for years and even if they don't give a full cure, if they can lessen the symptoms

or get somebody back and healthy sooner, i think that's going to be the breakthrough much sooner than a vaccine which even the quickest vaccine can take two or three years to develop. >> laura: back to the gottlieb road map.tl fauci, they are tight and they rely on gottlieb's advice. he said we can't go back to a normal life until we have a vaccine. that's basically what he said. that would be not going back to normal life, congressman nunes, for 12 months. which if parents across the country are hearing that, and workers, they are going to be showing up in washington, even if you all aren't here. they're going to be coming to washington to send you a message. >> that's not going to work. the schools were canceled here in california which is way overkill. it's possible kids could've went back to school in two weeks to four weeks but they just canceled the rest of the schools.ba so look, i'm optimistic here. i think that the drugs that are on the market now, look how

quick we were able to get this approved, this new malaria drug, that you have been talking about every night. there's a lot of optimism here that we have in some of these drugs that are coming online. the vaccines are going to take a while but look, we have this bill that we just passed last week, $2.2 trillion worth, we have to focus on keeping people employed. i will tell you this. if we don't start to get people back to work in this country over the next week to two weeks, i don't believe we can wait until the end of april. i just don't know of any economy that's ever survived or you unplug the entire economy and expect things to go back and be normal. so the more tests that are out there, the more people getting testing, let's learn about the treatments. let's get good data as to who is being impacted and let's figure out a way to get back to work. >> laura: all right. senator and dr. barrasso and congressman nunes, great to see you both. stay safe out there. >> good to be with you. >> laura: the left is using the current crisis to of course

advance the radical agenda. he knew that would happen. you won't believe what the mayor of d.c. isap threatening her own constituents met. dinesh d'souza, mike huckabee react next and later, my advice to the twitter censors. stay there.

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magnitude 6.5. the earthquake affecting the region near st. luke's medical regional center the highest per capita rate of covid-19 outside of new york city but it did not appear with the treatment of patients. i am marianne rafferty, now back to "the ingraham angle." ♪ >> laura: the left pushed for the release of thousands of prison inmates during this atcovid-19 crisis. then they wanted to shut down the gun stores. do you feel safe? now the liberal mayor of d.c., is threatening to throw people in jail for the crime of going outside during the coronavirus lockdown. if you're doing drugs, your find on the streets of d.c. >> we will have to issue fines and jail penalties because we expect the people of the district of columbia to comply. we do, of course, have penalties at our disposal but i don'tly expect we will have to use them. that is certainly my hope. the point of the whole thing is for people to stay at home.

>> laura: she hopes they don't have to use this. she doesn't want you to -- want to throw you in jail for 90 days but she will if she has to. joining me now, dinesh d'souza, conservative filmmaker and upcoming of the up coming book "united states of socialism." also with me, former arkansas governor, fox news contributor, mike huckabee. great to see both of you. dinesh, i have to get into this, the aclu has filed suit in dealing with the coronavirus response. a friend of mine said today where have all the civil libertarians gone? when people on the shutdown orders and basically aren't able to exercise many of their constitutional rights. where are the civil libertarians? >> yeah, without minimizing the seriousness of the epidemic, without recognizing that this is a global crisis, recognizing that we've never had medical tents in central park as far as

i know,er we are not trying to understate it. at the same time we are a country under a constitution. the right to assemble, the right to free speech, the right to religious freedom. what strikes me as amazing is thes blithe way in which mayors and elected officials are talking about abridging these rights at whim. here is de blasio. you know, fica church having services, i'm not going to just shut it down now, i'm going to shut it down permanently. would he say that if he was talking about planned parenthood? if i see a planned parenthood clinic offering services, i'm going to shut them down enpermanently? he would never do that. i think we are seeing an animus against constitutional rights. coming out and using the virus and usingg the epidemic as a pretext to deny citizens their basic liberty. >> laura: again, governor huckabee, we want everyone to be safe and we want to save as many lives as possible. we all know that.

all the doctors and nurses, everyone doing yeoman's work on the front line but we do have at this moment have to ask some of these questions and also hold some of these governors under the spotlight. where are the state legislatures? are there ever going to meet during this crisis are they going to let the governor do whatever they want? governor ralph northam issued an executive order yesterday shutting down virginia through june 10th. [laughs] governor huckabee. and the republican primary is june 9. i'm sure there's just a coincidence. it builds on another order of his which says protecting the health and ensuring the safety of every virginian is my highest priority. just to remind everyone, northam is the same governor who a year ago said this. >> if a mother is in labor, i can tell you exactly what would happen. the infant would be delivered. the infant would be kept comfortable. the infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and

the family desired. and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. >> laura: governor, so he wants to protect lives except he's in favor of infanticide. .> yeah, it's the most ironic thing i've ever heard. he doesn't want people in virginia had to be able to have personal protection so that they can protect themselves against looting or crime. so he wants to shut the gun stores down. he wants to keep the abortion clinics running. that's not an essential service. it's a killing service. but he somehow believes that, you know, it's absolutely necessary to make sure we can kill babies and he's going to shut the economy of virginia down for a length of time that is not based on anybody's recommendation, not dr. fauci, not dr. birx, not anyone that i know of. except he's just smarter thanno the rest of us and that's what he's doing. >> laura: remember the g.o.p. primary is june 9th.

we have to remember that as well. now, dinesh, it looks like businesses across the country, especially given what huckabee just said, people are getting ready for perhaps needing to protectre themselves or their property. they are preparing for civil unrest. look at the boarded-up storefronts in places in chicago. in beverly hills. picking up a video of this all day long that they are not preparing for hurricane. they are preparing for what seems to be looting if this thing goes on much past, you know, when the weather starts getting warm. dinesh, thoughts on that. >> well, there's a rational fea of the epidemic but there's also a rational fear of what happens when civic order breaks down, when there's a certain level ofv economic collapse when things go haywire and when you are releasing criminals on the street because you can't take care of them in confined facilities, then citizens demand to know they can protect i themselves, how they can buy a gun for example. now the important thing aboutlv

the constitutional rights of ours that they are not up for ai democratic referendum. even elected majorities, not to mention elected officials, have no right to take away these basic rights. in fact according to our founders, we never ceded them to government in the first place. i therefore the idea that governments can sort of lively say listen, we will take away your religious freedom or we'll takesa away your second amendmet rights, we will put aside your fourth amendment rights right now because things are kind of hairy, this i think he is much liberty in order to purchase that kind of illusory security. >> laura: governor huckabee, i know people are, they are afraid to ask questions now. inkn a way, sometimes when i her people talking, i just -- they blindly say we can do this. if we have to go through september, if we have to go through november. i actually heard someone say if we have to miss christmas to make sure we flatten the curve, we have to miss christmas. i was like, i don't even believe i'm hearing these things.

what are you talking about? people have to ask these questions. what are the metrics? how do we achieve the metric, is it reasonable. balance the risk. that's what the president is basically trying to say. >> i think the president is taking the right approach. he said let's get back to business as soon as we can. he was criticized he said because we wanted to get back by easter but he himself has said we are not going to be ready by then. he is listening to the people who are the public health experts. that's important. we just don't know. i agree with dinesh. we have to take this seriously but we also have to balance it with basic fundamental american rights. a pastor in tampa, dr. harold brown, was actually arrested yesterday, arrested because his church had service on sunday in tampa despite the fact that they took extraordinary measures to try to social distancing, disinfect everyone, including the church. i'm not sure that was the best decision but people have a right

to do certain things even if i don't agree with it. to be arrested for having church? that's kind of a frightening thing. and i'm not sure we would want to go there. >> laura: dinesh, an email i got today was, so we can't go back to church until the doctor say it's okay? i mean. i mean, that's something people need to chat about a little bit. dinesh. >> i agree. i think that our health and our safety is important to us, but somp is our religious freedom. so without property. so are our economic prospects for the future. now when you look at a lot of the stuff that says things like the curve isn't flattening in the casesst keep going up, of course the cases are going up because we are testing more. so this is not an artificial -- it's not a case of the incidence rising at an exponential rate, it may be our knowledge of the cases. an important distinction between our knowledge of what's going on and what is actually going on. bose are two very different curves.

>> laura: yeah, want to protect human life. we want to protect the elderly and the vulnerable, protect as many people as weekend and also on the other side of this nature we still have our constitutional rights. gentlemen, great discussion. thankur you so much. ahead, dr. judy ho from "the doctors" breaks off what layoffs and weeks of pointing could mean for americans mental health and what youof can do about it. don't go away. these folks, they don't have time to go to the post office

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>> laura: you probably know this but the coronavirus is putting millions of americans and their families in dire financial straits. take a look for yourself. >> i've been pretty good about holding it together and i just finally broke down and cried. you have to think about what is in the bank account. how you can start paying bills. >> i'm not making any money right now. >> if i am in the negative i just won't get up. >> stressed out financially. not having a home. >> laura: we know the effects that mass layoffs and lockdowns can have on the economy, devastating. what about mental health? joining me now is dr. judy ho, owhost of "the doctors." host of a podcast.

doctor, what we are facing isn't just mass layoffs what millions of people are basically stuck at home. what could that due to their mental state? >> human beings are not meant to be at home and they are not meant to isolate here we know the research now that social isolation and the perception of loneliness can have detrimental mental and physical effects. so we have to be proactive here because if we just allow ourselves to stay at home and perhaps engage in defeatist thinking, fall out of structure, then we're going to feel more depressed. we're going to have -- be more irritable and fight with our families and our spouses. we need to do something to changeli the situation, and chae our mind-set. >> laura: doctor, there was a study done a couple years ago about the 2008 financial crisis by the university of oxford. published in the british journal of psychiatry. it linked a 10,000 person increase in suicides to that economic crisis and the data was

disturbing. we haven't really talked about that because we are dealing with the immediacy of this crisis but those lives are real. that desperation is real. >> that's exactly right, laura. the desperation is linked to idea of hopelessness and when people feel hopeless, they feel like things are not going to change and that they are powerless to change it and right now there are too many unknowns. s the human mind is not good wih unknowns. when faced with so many unknowns, the anxiety is likely to rise and people want to give up. that is what we are trying to combat right now. when we look at this phenomenon of most people staying at home, it's hard to have the level of connection you need. it's easy to go away and isolate and not tell anybody about your suffering. and because we are less connected, people are also more likely to not reach out, even if they are feeling lonely themselves. there could be a lot of shame and guilt associated with those emotions and those thoughts.s.

>> laura: i know we sound like we are so negative but we are trying to look at the whole picture of america, not just one aspect. physical health is so important but mental health, people don't like to talk about it because they feel embarrassed.d. but i think it's really, really important that we talk about this tonight. the child abuse reports out of texas that they had seen an increase in head trauma in florida, showing a floridaea headline now. they are concerned about that as well because, you know, parents are cooped up, they are on a short fuse i guess. i don't know what's happening. are you concerned about that, doctor? >> these are real concerns and people have also been talking about what if you are with a physical abuser as a parent or a spouse or romantic partner. these are things we have to look at. and you're right. people are on a short fuse. when people are cooped up at home, sometimes they aren not regulated their schedules, not sleeping well. it affects their emotional regulation.ng we all have to take a step back, take a deep breath. look at the picture, as we

mentioned, as a whole and start to utilize strategiess that wor. >> laura: dr. judy, thank you so much. great to see you tonight. come back soon. up next, i have a last bite for the twitter censors.

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>> laura: this is truly the last bite. it's my last bite because i was amazed to see a tweet today from the editor in chief of china's global times. if the tweet itself -- it didn't surprise me, it was a typical chinese anti-american propaganda. it reads "covid-19 deaths in u.s. have exceeded the number in china, it is solely caused by the government's mishandling. wuhan imposed a locked on january 23rd imposing a warning, the u.s. only have one confirmed case and there was time. trump administration has failed the american people." my question, has twitter content enforcers sent a warning to the global times for its false and misleading tweet? will it threaten to suspend the global times if they don't

delete it? don't hold your breath. that's all the time we have tonight. shannon bream, the "fox news @ night" team have all the latest breaking development. they take it from here. shannon. >> shannon: there are shannon: there are plenty. we begin with the president of the white house coronavirus task force, when projection shows 240,000 americans could die from the virus but there is room to bring that number down. currently there are 189,000 confirmed cases in the us, there are difficult images from new york as the president describes his sadness acting hospitals near where he grew up in queens, scenes around the us to the story of