in the national media. sean. >> sean: shocking there too, information crisis, thank you. we are not the destroy-trump hate media mob. we don't care about the politics you have. let not your heart be troubled. laura, great show again last night. >> laura: hannity, same with you. and first of all, the fact that hospital executives are wishing and illness on anyone of any political background is -- i mean, it is -- there are no words to describe -- >> sean: let me go on the record. >> laura: how low people can go. no words. >> sean: i want cures for cancer. heart disease, i don't want anyone ever die, flew. >> laura: no one ever wants anyone to die. >> sean: to be able to attack me every day. go right ahead. i want you healthy. >> laura: hannity, maybe we should bring back the hannity hate hotline, the covid addition. >> sean: now we are going back in time. >> laura: it seems like yesterday, hannity.

we are loaded up tonight. but i can only dream. >> sean: i have a question -- do you think the democrats want to dump biden for cuomo? >> laura: well, tonight we're going to get into the fact that they're trying to cancel their own convention, sean, and then pressure to trump -- trump to drop the rnc. the conventions are not until the end of august and they are moving to cancel them. i wonder why. so yeah. i think there was something going on there. >> sean: all right, have a great show. >> laura: great to see you, talk to tomorrow. i'm laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. we are loaded up more scientists worldwide are pushing for widespread testing of our antibodies to covid-19, so will it happen? we are going to ask the fda commissioner. plus, one of the country top infectious disease doctors, who is actually treating dozens and dozens of covid patients, he's here tonight and he's going to share new data that could totally change the way we think about and fight this virus, it's

stunning. and as the federal government and the state government are taking unprecedented action that ends up, let's face it, limiting our social and professional activity, how do we protect and preserve our fundamental freedoms? house minority leader kevin mccarthy is here on that. plus, you're not going to believe who is already getting an apparel and a culinary tribute during the pandemic. raymond arroyo has the answer on seen and unseen. but first, america in shutdown, day 16. finally, finally, "the new york times," they saw the light today. here's the headline. "malaria drug helps virus patients improve, in small study." the study, conducted by chinese researchers found that cough, fever and ammonia went away faster and the disease seemed less likely to return severe in

then in the comparison group not given the drug. this is the same paper that is favored, by the way, who just a few days earlier published this op-ed. no, these medicines cannot cure coronavirus. well, similar dismissive stories were posted by the know-nothings at "vanity fair" and "the washington post." these full trends honestly don't even know the positions here and abroad are right now tonight treating covid patients with hydroxychloroquine. by the way, they are oftentimes successfully getting outcomes for their patients. again, we're going to talk to one of those infectious disease doctors in just a moment. and next, more on that ongoing debate about whether the virus' lethality, the mortality rate, is being overstated or misunderstood. remember, as i told you last night, we don't yet have an accurate picture of who has already been infected.

now why is this? we've done all this testing, more testing -- it's because many americans have already had the covid infection and recovered, or in many of those reports they were never tested. many, also had no symptoms at all and they were infected. we took drastic mitigation actions anyway though because experts warned us that millions and millions could die. who would ever want to even tolerate the thought of that? but stanford's thinks the models are off by many multiples. watch. >> i'm a little bit astounded. maybe, and less with to shouldn't be that they checked on the economy without knowing quite what they're doing. >> people flood the worst case into their models. they project -- they say 2-4 million deaths.

newspapers pick up the 2-4 million deaths, politicians have to respond. the scientific basis for that projection is completely -- there isn't -- there's no study underlying that projection in the sense of that number, the denominator that number. >> laura: so how do we get a more accurate denominator? >> if you want to know in the population how many people have had it and recovered from it, you want to know the denominator, you have to have the antibody test. you need both in the denominator and so with the antibody test you can get the denominator for the population fatality rate. anything in the population. all in the last week and some that become available. >> laura: but today we got mixed messages from the coronavirus task force about these antibody testings. >> antibody testing right now is not the first thing on our

priority. it is very important ultimately to be able to get a feel for what the penetrance of the infection was in society for a number of reasons to get a better feel of what the impact has been, but also to get a better feel of what the herd immunity would be. so i can foresee, in the future, that when we get the facility, which we will have for sure, ultimately you can get a test that can do this reasonably easy and do the kind of what we call surveillance study, but right now that's not our immediate problem. >> laura: wait. at some level -- i talked to the top scientists were looking at this as well. at some level that doesn't make sense. because we have problems beyond the current infection rate. we have millions of people out of work and we also have vulnerable health care workers, so we need to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. on the importance of fast tracking these antibody tests, dr. birx gets it.

>> i think we owe it to the frontline health care providers not only to provide them are and rna tests, but that many of them have been on the frontline now for four weeks, may have become exposed, they are a asymptomatically i think really being able to tell them -- the peace of mind that would come from knowing you already were infected, you have the antibody, you're safe from reinfection 99.9% of the time. universities can do that by friday. so i'm putting that challenge out to them. we are not waiting, we are asking for help now. >> laura: yes. that was music to the ears of so many who had been examining the true models here in doing that long-term and short-term look at the true numbers, that denominator. how many were really affected and what is the mortality rate? understanding every life is precious. the antibody test, as dr. birx said, it's easy, it's fast, and it's absolutely critical to understanding the true severity

and reach of the virus and then that informs what the best action is to take in response to the virus. so if we can quickly determine a true infection rate and we determine that the true infection rate is actually far higher than we originally thought -- and now this weird, but that's, in a way, good news. because it means more americans don't have immunity to the virus. this could get americans out of their home confinement a lot sooner. they won't infect anyone once they are in the workplace and they won't get it again. as awful as the 4,700 plus covid deaths are in this country, and that's an awful number, we are only beginning to see the destruction caused but of course by crashing our economy as well. >> the universal quarantine, essentially that's what we have. it's incredibly costly. it's costly -- people

characterizes costly to the economy. you get accused of being crass because it's people's lives, right? i mean, i'm actually kind of sympathetic to that but actually it's not just dollars till lives. it's lives to lives. right? global economic collapse will cost lives of i believe millions of people. not just in the united states, i mean worldwide. >> laura: the president, he sees it too. >> we did the right thing and we did it early. we did it early and we stopped other people from coming into our country early, but no, this domestic violence, you have violence, you will have suicide, you will have drug addiction. a lot of people are going to be lost. we want to get this open as soon as we can. i mean, i'll be the happiest person, so will you, everyone in this room. happy when we get the word that this is the time. >> laura: now, it's always the

right time to get better data. that means we need the true infection rate. we want to protect the lives of the vulnerable americans out there. meanwhile, what about our civil liberties? we are going to get our freedom back when this is all over, right? >> this is going to be transformative. we are never going to be the same again. the fear that we have, the anxiety that we have, that's not just going to go away. when do we get back to normal? i don't think we get back to normal. i think we get back or we get to a new normal. >> laura: wait, wait, wait. what new normal is that? the old normal was when your kids actually went to school, you could go to work, you could go to church if you wanted it maybe a restaurant or watch a sporting event or play sports with your friends. you traveled anywhere and whenever you damn well please without government tracking or

police questioning you. that was the old normal. so if the new normal means something innocuous like we won't buy drug from china, that's great. that's a good new normal and if it means that we stay home when we are sick that we wash our hands more, fantastic. we all want that. but if the new normal that cuomo is talking about means abandoning the life we loved before the coronavirus or using this crisis as something to be doing as a vehicle for advancing a left-wing freedom-killing agenda, well, count us out. and those are my thoughts at the end of the shutdown, day 16. all right, joining me now is fda commissioner stephen hahn. commissioner, great to see you tonight. where are we right now on this increasing push that so many scientists are advocating for serology testing? when can that start in earnest?

>> it's great to be here, thank you for having me. serology testing is a really important piece of this puzzle and i think you said it right that now is the time to get as much data as we possibly can. understanding that the serology test is indication of having previously had the infection and now recovering because you've developed antibodies and so it tells us a lot and i think dr. birx's point about particularly our frontline first responders and health care workers getting that information and knowing that they have the immunity is actually very important. so it's a really key component of understanding where we are with this disease. the other important point is as we learned about this virus we are beginning to see that there are many asymptomatic people who have been infected and this is going to help us get to that number, as you said, more data will really help us understand it better. >> laura: mr. commissioner, doesn't it also mean that these projections -- the president i think mentioned this or dr. birx the other day, every day is

running into the next, at one point it was 3.4% lethality up to 4.5%. i mean, that number is incomprehensibly high. now in germany the number is .4% and in italy the scientific advisor in italy is saying it looks like a lot of the deaths that were classified as covid deaths in italy now are going to be reclassified as caused by comorbidities. in other words, underlying conditions of many of the elderly. what about that? >> so, you're right. this gives us more information for the denominator of that equation because we need to know both how many people have been infected and then how may people have died and tragically, what you said before, just one is too many but knowing that information will give us a much more accurate assessment of what the death rate is from this infection. with respect to how patient deaths are counted, i think we need to be transparent about it. i think we need to understand the comorbidities for sure, but

infection certainly would contribute to people who have comorbidities. >> laura: here's what obama's former cdc rector said today about the fda's response to the virus. >> the fda was slow to allow the hospital laboratories to develop their own tests and conflict, companies like abbott are just getting into the market where in other countries they were months ahead. we squandered months. we knew this was coming from late january and only recently began taking it seriously and now it's an all hands on deck. >> laura: so why didn't the cdc let the private sector get involved early on or request them to, is that a fair criticism? >> i think it's to understand the sequence of events here and our standard, our typical response to a public health crisis like this is that the cdc is the first entity to get the virus and develop the test. i think there's going to be plenty of opportunity to look

back at what we could have done better. i know from an fda point of view we will be doing that looking forward, but i think the facts are that test was developed in record time by cdc. it was an excellent test and is an excellent test and it was approved by fda within 24 hours after receiving the data. i think it's also important to recognize that the facts are that we've been working with developers of tests since january, january 22nd, to be precise. and we have been developing tests since that time. as you know, abbott just recently released the care test, really a major breakthrough in a game changer because it allows the test to be done in the patient -- the doctor's office that the patient bedside, et cetera. that test normally takes nine months to develop and that was done in collaboration between the company and fda over 4-6 weeks. so really these things are moving it really rapid speed. >> laura: commissioner, one final thing, your predecessor, scott gottlieb, wrote a document called the road to recovery,

basically, how do we get back to our old way of life that we all love. i'm including in the spaces that he breaks down is a possibility of tracking american citizens' movements with some type of -- it was mentioned at the press conference the other day, gps tracking to ensure social distancing and abiding by these government edicts. would you in any way recommend that american citizens be tracked according to these new government standards? >> well, i have looked at that document and to have an enormous amount of respect for dr. gottlieb. i agree with you when you talk about how we have to get back to the life that we love. we are a freedom-loving, liberty-loving people and i do have concerns about the tracking part of this and believe what we need to do is get the information and data that is necessary to understand the epidemic and then get back to our life the way we had it before with freedom and the great work that the american people do. >> laura: so you are not in

favor of tracking american citizen's movements by using cell phone technology or other gps tracking? >> i think if we were to take that we would have to have a very good reason for doing that. i don't see that reason right now. >> laura: commissioner, it's great to see you tonight. best of luck out there. we are praying for all of you, thanks so much. >> thank you, laura. take care. >> laura: along with serology testing is also a new trial on the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine and prophylactic for health care workers. in light of all of this, could we be nearing a turning point in our fight against the virus? for answers, let's bring in "the ingraham angle" 'us medical cabinet, dr. stephen smith, founder of the smith center for infectious diseases and urban health and dr. mead oxley, cardiologist, doctor, let's start with you. i've heard from doctors and other health care workers there already as prophylactic measures taking hydroxy as a way to prevent from getting the virus, is that happening it is that wise? >> i think it's happening, but i think the positions just like

patients that are prescribed this need to be carefully monitored. one basic thing is to check a baseline electrocardiogram and then check another one every day or every few days to make sure that the ekg changes that could lead to sudden cardiac deaths don't occur. so those are the basic methods that we use to monitor this, but no doubt, many physicians as early as early to mid-march acquired hydroxy chloroquine and many of them in the trenches are using it in a prophylactic way on a daily basis. >> laura: dr. smith, you have new fascinating data tonight on your covid-19 patients. you have 72 of them. 21 were prediabetic at 29.2%. 34 were diabetic, that's 47.2%, and the average bmi of severely ill patients, that's body mass index, is 30.7%. tell us more.

>> that's a score of 30.7 and above 30 -- about 25 you are overweight, above 30, you're obese. the more we see this disease, the more we understand that severe rapid covid especially is in diabetics or prediabetic. i'm looking at 19, 20 patients that are intubated. and 18 of the 20 are diabetic and two are prediabetic. we don't have anybody that's been in our group, that's over 80 now, that was not diabetic or prediabetic. we had severe disease in younger patients with severe disease i have a very high bmi. we have patients with -- 150 kilograms, i will do the math quickly, that's over 300 pounds. we are seeing a lot of this. and i don't -- just now i think the world is catching up to this, seattle group published on

their data in the journal of medicine saying that 58% of their icu covid patients were diabetic and that their average bmi was 33, which is morbidly obese. so that fits with our data. people haven't focused on yet is that the prediabetics are also at risk, especially if they have a high bmi. we haven't had anyone under 70 who didn't have a very high bmi or was prediabetic get seriously ill. this is amazing stuff and it's unprecedented. >> laura: so this means, dr. oskoui, because you treat heart patients who oftentimes have other issues, high body mass index, also diabetes, these are potential comorbidities in this disease, but are risk factors for this disease, i don't know what the terminology is. really quickly. >> i think risk factors for poor outcome. i suspect steve's data is

probably shown that those with mild-to-moderate covid infection and respiratory problems have a lower incidence rate than those with severe. steve can speak to that, but certainly it goes again to the importance of weight loss, diet, and exercise, because clearly those with diabetes and prediabetes are much, much higher risk. as you know, last night, we spoke about cdc's finding in this regard but i think steve's work is going to be incredibly important. >> laura: go ahead, steve, real quick. >> some things i want to get across in the treatment. we treat everybody with hydroxychloroquine and we've been doing so for a while. i was very nervous about the effects on the ekg, as you just spoke to, and i asked a doctor to be my cardiologist looking over the ekg is because it's been 30 years since i've done that. dave has looked at over 40 of our patients that have received several doses -- many doses, and he has found only two patients

who have had changes. in other words, they had other drugs -- more important -- >> laura: hold that thought. we are going to keep it with her medicine cabinet there, but hold that thought. coming up, new york governor cuomo says the country won't be the same after this. is that what we really want? don't go away.

♪ >> l >> laura: we are back with dr. stephen smith. this is extremely important news we are breaking time in "the ingraham angle." one of the most preeminent infectious disease specialist in the united states. his father was a legend, but dr. smith, you pointed out that not a single patient of yours, covid patient, that has been on the hydroxy regimen has had to be intubated. for people who don't know what intubated means, please explain, quickly. >> yeah, so intubated means you're respiratory -- respiratory failure and have to be put on a ventilator. intubation actually means putting a tube down your trachea and then placed on the ventilator for support, respiratory support. we had, i mentioned, 20 integrations. most all of them occurred in the first two days. more importantly, no person has received five days or more of

the hydroxychloroquine combination has been intubated. the chance of that occurring by chance according to my sons who did some stats for me are .000 something. it's a ridiculous -- it's ridiculously low no matter how you look at it. we worry about selection bias in the situation, but i cannot think of a reason why, if all else is equal, why people that have received five days or more -- even four days or more of this hydroxychloroquine wouldn't get intubated. in other words, if didn't work, why would it just be the people that didn't get nearly completed? complete the regimen. most people in the first two days -- >> laura: dr. smith, we're going to have you back -- it's a game changer. correct? >> it's a game changer. absolutely. i think these data go to really support the french that. now you have comparison saying

that this regimen works and i will get some real statisticians besides my sons to look at that. >> laura: dr. smith, thank you for all the work -- you and i and our medicine cabinet of folks in all your colleagues, thank you. >> laura, i think this is the beginning of the end. of the pandemic. i'm very serious. >> laura: wow. this is unbelievable. dr. smith, all the naysayers and the people dismissing this, just wait. okay? the good news is coming. dr. smith, thank you so much, we will have you back tomorrow to give you the latest update, thanks so much. >> start looking forward to understand how this experience is going to change us, or how it should change us. it is going to be transformative on a personal basis, on a social basis, on a systems basis. we are never going to be the

same again. >> laura: never going to be the same. i thought that was the whole point of all the social distancing, so we can go back to our old life, but apparently that's out the window. that was new york governor andrew cuomo from earlier today. he's probably right that the country won't be the same, in a way, right, because we're going to be -- you know, we're going to be washing our hands more, but that's a good thing. not sure that's what he was talking about though. the question is, how do we get back to the way things were? the good part of our constitutional liberties and our rights, our free market? joining me now was house minority leader kevin mccarthy. congressman, when democrats say things like transformative -- and he said about more things than his immediate problem. to me i hear more government, less freedom. what do you hear? >> that's exactly what i hear. i think andrew cuomo is forgetting who we are. we are americans. the ingenuity, the intensity, inspiration, we will get through this and we will get back to normal.

we've been through world war ii. but what we will not get back to is allowing china to control a supply chain in any industry. that's what we cannot allow to happen again. something that president trump has warned us about who has fought against it. and i think that is an eye-opening -- if we are watching our hands more, fantastic. but when we get back to our way of life, it's not only cuomo saying this, the number three ranking person in congress says he wants to take this opportunity to restructure government. those of the things that scare me. if they want to bring in their liberal wish list and not really worry about what is going on right now about the health of america, but they want to restructure america and that socialist view of what they believe in. >> laura: congressman, adam schiff is not promising a 9/11-style commission to investigate the trump administration's response to covid. once again -- he tweeted "after pearl harbor, 9/11, look at what went wrong to learn from our mistakes. once we recover we need a nonpartisan commission to review

our response. now we can get better prepared for the next pandemic. i'm working on a bill to do that." >> adam schiff is so out of touch. we are in the middle of a crisis. let's take care of this crisis. if someone really wants to look at something, let's look at china and president xi. because china lied, because they would not let our experts and our scientists, researchers, this is 95% worse than we've ever seen. we could have contained this in china itself but lo and behold the democrats and adam schiff himself -- remember how many times he has lied to the american public. the only thing he can think about is how he can go after the president in the middle of a crisis in america. why doesn't he point it to what really belongs? inside china that has destroyed the rest of the world for what they have done by lying and not allowing us in there. that's what we should be looking at. >> laura: the president today was pretty -- pretty light on criticizing china -- a lot of people are coming to the

conclusion that china is just blatantly lying about the number of people who truly died when they were locked into their apartments. in wuhan. but the president said we really don't know. what about that? a lot of us are like "wait a second, we don't know that china lies about nature things. i think we know that pretty well," what's going on there? >> i think we know china lied. if you look at the report they talk about in that province that they think may be 43,000 people died. isn't it interesting once china removed -- remember, they are a communist party. remember, they run that country. but remember, once they removed american reporters, the next day, nobody in china contacted coronavirus. it is only coming from the outside in. amazing how that began to happen. >> laura: by the way, we are going to talk about this later in the show but i have to get your quick take, congressman, really quick. tonight we learned that democratic party leaders apparently are agreeing with

joe biden and joe biden's people that they should radically rethink the democratic national convention because of the coronavirus. now clearly the pressure is going to be on the republicans to just cancel their convention, take that platform away from trump and also i guess hide biden in the basement. would you recommend that the republicans cancel their convention? how many months out from the convention? >> i would never make that decision today but if i've ever watched joe biden do one interview i cancel any opportunity for him to be on tv. >> laura: [laughs] >> when you watch what he says, it is amazing. i can't believe he is going to become their nominee. >> laura: well -- >> i wouldn't want him out there answering any other questions as well. >> laura: now, congressman, great to see you tonight, thanks so much for joining us. coming up, how tv has changed during the quarantine. you won't believe who the media -- they're trying to sell

it now as a political star. a branded commodity. raymond arroyo is here for details, seen and unseen next. [spoken]

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>> live from america's muse headquarters, i am jack ibanez in new york. an army rushing to help new york city as a death toll from coronavirus rises to more than 1300. california answering governor andrew cuomo's call for ambulances, sending to age of 50 fully staffed. in los angeles, mayor eric garcetti recommending the city's 4 million residents to wear a mask when going outside. i liked an order is in effect for the entire state of florida. individual counties have been making their own decisions until now. social security recipients, those who normally don't file tax returns will still get their

economic stimulus payment deposited directly in the bank account. the payments are based on 2018's tax returns. i am jackie ibanez. now back to the "ingram angle." for more of your headlines, log on to foxnews.com. >> laura: it's time for our seen and unseen segment where we reveal the story behind the headline. joining us with all the details, raymond arroyo, author of "will wilder three" now out in paperback. fox news contributor as well. i thought of you last night because i saw this covid-19 psa from larry david. >> i basically want to address the idiots out there. you're hurting old people like me. the problem is you're passing up fantastic opportunity, the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to stay in the house, sit on the couch, and watch tv. >> a lot of people are taking his advice, but why does larry

david bring me to mind? you are miss social distancing. give me a break. but what is amazing here is that more americans are watching tv due to the national shutdown but the quality tv is falling rapidly and the connections are often unpredictable. stephen colbert had daniel radcliffe on his show last night. should have asked harry potter to give him the spell for clear audio. >> soon as we can figure out the way i'm supposed to hear you, whether it's on this or this little laptop over here, we will figure it out. we will get going. thank you so much for doing this. >> i see him. >> can you hear me, daniel? when was the last time you bathe? he can't respond. he is writing things out. what's her number? i will just call you. >> laura: wait a second, raymond, are you there? are you there? >> [laughs] i can't hear you, what? is she there? >> laura: let's be fair.

we have very wild conditions now. i mean, it's different. and it's not easy. send me a memo when we are done with skype, okay? >> i think we are stuck with skype for a while. even the view. touted the return of bernie sanders today they had a big interview, or did they? >> hey, senator sanders, how are you doing, it's whoopi. >> [inaudible] >> the gremlins of april fools' day are out and they've been messing with our communications, so we are going to talk to senator sanders in a few minutes. >> [laughs] laura, when they finally got the poor man on the line, whoopi hounded him about getting out of the race. why are you still in the race? get out of the race, and for biden. i mean sanders sounded like biden. he was kind to -- they're trying to move sanders out of the race because biden is hard up for

cash. the man only has $20 million on hand. trump has $225 million. so they need to raise money and with biden it's tough. he's become a shadow during this covid crisis. he's grateful for any media he >> thank you so much for your time sir, i appreciate it. >> thank you for the time. people will wonder where i am. >> laura: wait a second. wait a second. wait. he just said he wonders where he is. i'm still trying to get caught up with whoopi talking about gremlins in the system, technical problems about the problems but for joe biden. no wonder they want to cancel the convention. >> laura, if they're not watching biden, and people aren't, nielsen tells us there watching a lot of this. >> come on down! >> laura: wow. >> maybe biden needs to get

himself on the price is right as a contestant. have the biggest ratings in four years last week. let's make a deal on cbs had their highest ratings in 11 years and in cable, fox news dominated this quarter, including your show, my dear, congratulations. i think what it tells us as americans are looking to be uplifted, they want fun, and they want some information. they are craving both, and i think normalcy. >> laura: my kids and i watched it "leave it to beaver" on youtube last weekend. we were really -- either way, it skips. it skips on you for some reason. that's how desperate we got. i can't see "rudy" -- i've seen the movie "rudy." i think now at least ten times. there are so few movies you can watch with your kids. i saw "rudy" again. in the midst of this crisis though, they seem to be attempting to create a new corona superhero, raymond, not for the first responders

necessarily, the teachers but this guy. >> the doughnut shop in rochester, new york, put the dot on special doughnut with the wed to red, white, and blue sprinkles. you can buy anthony fauci socks on etsy. a clam bar on long island is also now selling fauci linguine. >> i'm waiting for the anthony fauci face mask. that's what i'm holding out for. forget the cupcakes. everyone wants the face mask. you talk to our friends in the financial sector, there is one see, the fauci dollar bill. i think they don't want to see that anytime soon. >> laura: they want the shutdown over on wall street. a friend of mine said i hear they're going to keep this going. wall street guy. said i hear they're going to keep this going, laura, until july. do you hear anything about that? he says if that's the case, two words, it's over. like the economy is over. they are pleading to get some

better testing, better data, the denominator, and get the people who can go back to work back to work. we lost -- we lost a legend who was the legend that we lost, music legend? >> ellis marsalis, the great patriarch of the marsalis family, the first family of jazz here in new orleans and really around the world. there he is, ellis marsalis. a great legend, 85 years old, piano master. he's not with us, he died tonight. god bless him, god rest his soul. >> laura: what a giant, giant he was on the old ivories. fantastic. play some of his music this weekend and you'll get really uplifted. raymond, thank you so much, great to see you. >> so they don't wonder where i am, i'm glad i'm here. >> laura: excellent. maybe we will see what the end of the show. next up, the left is planning to use the coronavirus to do what? to drastically change how you

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inside a hot arena 104 days from now? >> it's hard to envision that. >> laura: 104 days from now. it seems so close in time, right? the democrat convention isn't until -- is it july or august? i thought it was in august, but i guess it's in july. if the party leaders are actually supportive of canceling it. no one knows if we will be under lockdown in three months, don't even contemplate that, but i guess you have to. why would they preemptively acts set an important event? one possible reason is to keep joe biden from embarrassing himself. joining me now is matt gaetz and dan bongino, fox news contributor and host of the dan bongino show podcast. congressman, they just don't want biden on that big stage, do they? this has become wildly obvious. >> the joe biden campaign is sort of like a weekend at bernie's experience because it continues to be propped up

despite a real lifelessness in his effort and by the way, it's perhaps joe's failures as a candidate that animate the left's desired to get these vote by mail provisions in coronavirus legislation so that they're able to have the mechanism of voting that even mit professors are saying is the most susceptible to fraud, so a bad candidate resulting in a policy agenda to try to, i think create the greatest opportunity for fraud in our election system. >> laura: dan, i want you to get in on this because joe biden referenced the drive-through voting issue last night on msnbc, check it out. >> this is about making sure that we are able to conduct our democracy while we are dealing with a pandemic. we can do both. it may mean a difference in the way we do it, it may mean social distancing doesn't get it done. it may mean that you have a circumstance where you have drive in voting, literally where you pull up -- there's a lot of ways to do it.

>> laura: dan, maybe you can just honk once for trump and twice for biden. okay? what do you think? good idea. >> maybe next you can just do it by phone. 1 for biden, 2 for trump. do you understand what a voter security integrity catastrophe this would be. this is nothing to prevent massive voter fraud. if they would influence something like that, and it tells everything, by the way you need to know about the democrat party that they tried to slide this in on this stimulus bill. listen, can we just be candid? we are broken, okay? as a country. i'm sorry to break the bad news, but we are broke. we are 22 trillion in debt. our gdp is about 22 trillion. i understand the need for bridge loans. i understand the need for the insurance. these workers out there, businesses, by no fault of their own, some bad business decision,

the government shuts them down but trying to slide in voter provisions, green new deal compliant airplanes, 25 million for the kennedy center and ballot harvesting into a bill tells you everything you need to know about this broken shell of the once-proud party. jfk would be embarrassed by this party today. >> laura: congressman, this is what a lot of folks are not talking about. now the people understand we don't know the true infection rate of this virus because most people with mild symptoms, they already have immunity to it and other people just have immunity to it, so we really don't know the baseline of this virus. they are saying wait a second, we don't know how deadly this is. we want to protect life, but to keep a shutdown, this thing is going to go on until july today. really listen to what he's saying. they are going to kick this thing into the fall and people are -- they keep going this way, you're not going to send your kids to school in the fall either. >> fortunately the virus isn't

going to listen to politicians. at what i can tell you in florida in the area where we have the most infection, miami-dade county, the hospitalization rate is only 6%. the morbidity and mortality rate far, far below that. looking more like the flu in terms of the mechanism by which you would calculate those rates once we determine the ultimate denominator, but when you look at what dan just mentioned about the democrats trying to chip away at their agenda, it's hard to argue that their strategy in some ways has worked. democrats got $350 million in the covid bill for migrant and refugee assistance and relocation, a lot of which wasn't even in this country. it was in other parts of the world, and so when you give on some of those issues, it fuels ambition for nancy pelosi and democrats that they can continue their social engineering experiments through this crisis response legislation that i think of anything that has to harden our position that we have to have this clean bill, no more of this nonsense and let's make them wear it if they on including it. >> laura: let's let them own

and from this moment from today's covid presser, watch. >> over 5 million immigrants in this country do pay taxes through their i.d. numbers yet they will not receive any money in the stimulus package. how do you suppose they survive during the covid-19? >> you say undocumented meaning they in illegally. a lot of people would say we have a lot of citizens right now that won't be working, so what are you going to do? it's a tough thing. i'm not going to give you a hard and fast answer because i just want to tell you it's something i think about and it's something we're working on. >> laura: they said it's something they'll look at. dan, if the administration green lights money to illegal immigrants out of this next phase, whatever, they're going to be dealing with me. okay? on that issue. thoughts. >> they'll be dealing with a lot of people, laura. i don't think the president would seriously sign off on something like this.

i don't see any way possible. there's no way -- answer that the right way but that's a big no. american citizens first. >> laura: you see they are going for that though. that's going to be the next big push along with the voting issues that you guys so well explained for us. thank you so much, gentlemen, stay safe out there, great to see you tonight. when we come back, we have a special announcement about the future of the show and one of the people on it that you've come to know and love. stay there.

>> tonight we have a sad announcement on the show, it will be raymond's last appearance on the ingraham angle. we're sad to see them go but he's going on to greener pastures. he has accepted, he will be touring the country, doing a series of frank sinatra tribute concerts.

april fools! we got you raymond! we got you! >> okay, i'm going to go do it my way. >> we said you were adjoining cats in the scripts, we had to change it. take it from here. >> if raymond is going on the road, let me know, i w shannon: if raymond is going on the road i want to know. i want to be in the audience. time for a fox news alert. hiding the truth, a county is on lockdown after an emergence of covid-19 patients, no one to me without authorization and you can't leave home without clearance. new scrutiny over what it has been telling the world about its recent death. this shows alleged death rate over the past couple weeks, no other country has seen a definite close to