to it this morning. and i think he said that he was in a position to join us and i asked him to join us by video if he is available. there he is! with his hat, say hello. i saw it, i saw it. >> let's get after it. >> let's get after it. i love that saying. you are looking for it and fine. many people are asking about you. i tell you the truth, everyone i talk to is asking about you and how you are doing and how you are handling it. and how you feel. cara is here, by the way. she's working on supplies. so she says hello. how are you feeling? >> i love cara.

you have great kids. there's no better way to measure what you've actually meant in the world, and your daughters are great. i'm not surprised they are helping. they make me proud, thank god the next generation is better. i'm doing pretty well, all things considered. this is very tough. i get it now. i have now become of this group of people who have this virus. they are reaching out, friends, new friends. they have this five days, ten days. constant virus, constant fever. and it's tough. you know, it's not great with my hair. you look like you've been cutting your own hair. some people are, some people are not. so i've chosen to wear a hat because i don't want to butcher my own hair cut.

but it's going to be a long sl slog. i more comfortable, and i've learned -- i see why it takes people out. because your body as the fever because it's fighting the virus. and you've got a chill. i'm very lucky, i have a wife who loves me and is keeping me said. i've got a nice place to be. you've been very smart, andrew, getting people to think about how they can reach out and help people without contact. a lot of people are fighting this alone. i can't imagine that. i can barely keep it together and i have everything done for me. i'm very lucky. there are a lot of people who are in a bad way. i feel for them. so we are in a real fight and we do have to remember our connection to each other. >> we were on day two? >> yeah, i believe it didn't start until i got the diagnosis.

maybe because it's psychosomatic or whatever. that night, i got a fever. and those rigors. it was out of a movie. i had a hallucination, you came to me. you had on a very interesting ballet outfit, and you were dancing in the dream and you were waving a wand and saying, "i wish i could wave my wand and make this go away," and then you spun around and danced away. >> well, that's a lot of metaphoric reality in there. [laughs] i thank you for sharing that with us. >> i can't get that picture out of my head! >> obviously the fever has affected your mental capacity.

>> and being alone all the time. everything i say. [laughs] >> do you have a fever today? >> i have a fever right this instant, governor. >> really? well, you look good. i have to tell you. comparatively, you look good. >> first of all, i appreciate that. you expressed concern about how i look, you didn't like my hair, you thought that i was giving a bad look of survival. i think i'm doing okay. >> good. you look good, you sound good. i know that sometimes we joke. i'm not going to do that today. rule one is never hit a brother when he's down, and you are literally in the basement, so i'm going to refrain from any

rebuttals today. >> this is probably the best, because when i'm healthy you know what happens. really, if i were you, now is the time to strike. >i would come for it now. i'm not going to forget all the jokes you said. >> chris, i have no doubt that you would hit me when i'm down. that's the difference between us, and that is my point. >> [laughs] >> that's not who i am. i haven't made any jokes. it was not a joke. some people misinterpreted what i said. i said i was going to send you a book, because i know he's just walking around in the basement there. that i was going to send you a book on -- "a beginners guide to

striped bass fishing." that's because you normally fish, and it's totally different to fish for striped bass then pour des. i was never seeing anything offensive. >> i like to learn, i love to fish with you. it's one of my favorite things to do. you're the only person i've ever known who fishes in all white, because you have no expectation of getting any kind of substance on you at any time when you fi fish, you've lived a sterilized existence pretty much the entire time i've known you. >> i believe you can fish and still stay neat and clean and clean. >> i think you should have one every day. >> i have been, i know you haven't noticed. kind of like the one you have. i do a briefing. you have cuomo prime time, i

have cuomo all the time. that's a good-looking hat. one hour a day, i worked 23 hours a day. >> melissa: all right, that is new york governor cuomo having passed from the news person don my portion of the press conference, sitting in part that he thinks the apex of cases here in new york, he had given that 7-30 day timeline, may now be closer to the shorter end of that timeline. also saying there are 20,000 volunteers on their way to new york from other states, and new york would be returning the favor. in the meantime, grim new numbers, as coronavirus infections and death continue to climb in the united states, confirmed cases now topping 200,000. the death toll surpassing 5,000. that number for the first time jumping by more than 1,000 people in a single day. that's more than double the rate of lung cancer and flu deaths. now, more states adding or

expanding stay-at-home orders, including florida, georgia, mississippi, nevada, and pennsylvania. 11 states do not have statewide stay at orders. as you can see here, in six of them local municipalities have issued orders on their own. florida governor ron desantis ordering residents to stay home for 30 days. >> at this point, even though there's a lot of places in florida that a very low infection rates, it makes sense to make this move now, the president agreed with the approach of focusing on the hot spots. at the same time, he understood that this is another 30-day situation. we've got to do what makes the most sense. >> melissa: this is "outnumbered" and i'm melissa francis. here today is harris faulkner, fox business network inc. or dagen mcdowell, dr. nicole saphier, new york city physician and fox news contributor, and joining us, former governor and

fox news contributor, mike huckabee. he is "outnumbered." i want to start with you, you have certainly been in the seat of making statewide decisions. would you do right now and what do you think of the job, having just watched governor cuomo, how do you think he's doing? >> mr. huckabee: i think governor cuomo is doing a really splendid job. one of the things he is doing is giving people a lot of information. which is one of the jobs you have. he's also bringing some level of consolation. he is balancing the harsh truth of the virus with also some hopeful optimism. the most important thing he's doing, he is managing the crisis. he is rebuilding the assets that are necessary to fight it, he is marshaling all the resources that are necessary, and he is positioning resources to the hospitals that needed the most. i think he's also giving us some picture into why this issue is best handled at the state and local level. a lot of people have tried to

criticize the president, saying he ought to do a nationwide order. no, he shouldn't. because new york is not the same as new mexico. when our founders created this great republic, they had in mind a united states of america, not just one dictatorial, centralized government. in fact, they wanted anything but that. what the president has done, he has given the resources. whether it's to gavin newsom in california, whether it's to john bel edwards in louisiana, or perhaps to andrew cuomo in new york. all democratic governors, but all three of them has said this president has responded to what they have needed. >> melissa: yeah. in fact, let's play with the president said on that very topic of putting in place that stay-at-home order. let's listen. >> there are some states that don't have much of a problem. they don't have the problem, they don't have thousands of people that are positive or

thousands of people that even think they might have it. or hundreds of people, in some cases. you have to look, you have to give a little bit of flexibili flexibility. >> melissa: dr. saphier, do you agree with that or do you think there should be a nationwide stay-at-home order? >> dr. saphier: i mean, i don't think -- you look at some of the more authoritarian -- can you hear me, melissa? >> melissa: yes. >> dr. saphier: do you have m me? >> melissa: yes. >> dr. saphier: i don't think there's a right or wrong answer. when you look at what some of the more authoritarian regimes like china, they shut down certain provinces. not necessarily the whole country. i think president trump is correct in the sense that we are a very diverse nation and you have to look at this from a state-by-state level. even the states are going to take it as a municipality by municipality. i don't think it's a one-size-fits-all, although i do hope that everyone is addressing

certain social distancing measures. just how far they take them will be up to the governors. >> melissa: governor huckabee, we are now learning, as well, that the democratic national convention has been moved. it was july 13th. they are now moving it back to august 17th. i wonder if that's far enough. you pick that date, other events have been pushed off indefinitely. obviously you have to have a convention. you were in a presidential race. what do you think of this choi choice? >> mr. huckabee: well, it's probably a smart move, because there are so much logistical concerns to deal with. everything from security to housing, although it looks like hotels are going to certainly be available all over the place. but i would have a better suggestion. i think they should move it not to august, but maybe to mid-march of 2021. that would be my suggestion. but i don't think they're going to take me up on that. in all seriousness, i do think that it's probably smart to move it to august.

let us all hope that we are back in business by then, because if not, i think the state of the conventions might be the least of our worries. >> melissa: yeah. dagen, what do you think about that? you know, pushing off that date until august, it's hard to hope for things to reopen because we keep sort of putting markers out there, and if you like those markers gets up to the side. what are your thoughts? >> dagen: it keeps little hope out there, that they set another date rather than just saying, "we don't know how we are going to handle this." more and more states telling the residents to stay home, stay in place, i think the governor will agree with me about this. we are a nation because of all of our freedoms, but that also makes us, as individuals, people who don't like being told what to do by the government. you know, "uncle sam is not the

boss of me, i'm going to make up my own mind." part of the problem is that we have to take orders from government officials, both big politicians and small, and we've been slow to listen and slow to act, slow to stay at home. i think ultimately, once our friends, neighbors, family members, the members of our places of worship start telling us, "this is what we need collectively as a community," we will take care of one another. so you could see a more dramatic shift in people's behavior to kind of shelter in place, hunker down, stay in, and save lives. >> melissa: harris? >> harris: yeah, just a quick word before we move on, about something the governor said. since we are kind of recapping that. when he said he now knows counting all the ventilators in the state of new york, he knows where they are so we can best position them up state, in the cities, whatever, it reallyt

governor huckabee is saying today. and that is how the states can best know their own equipment and inventories. i thought that was fascinating that, in a matter of days, he had gotten there with the count on the ventilators. now you can affirmatively say how many he has. i will move onto this. los angeles mayor eric garcetti is now urging city residents to wear masks when they are in public, saying homemade cloths and other alternatives will do. watch. >> research shows even a bandanna tucked in can have an effective slowing down droplet spread. these face coverings are only effective together, of course, with a physical distancing. so, this is not an excuse to get closer. >> harris: there's been so much back and forth and debate over this. again, that's eric garcetti urging against using medical grade masks, which first need to go to first responders.

the different cough masks, he's saying everyone should wear. dr. saphier, this is right in your lane. because you felt very strongly about which way this ought to go. what's your reaction? >> dr. saphier: there are two things that are going to do it. one, medical innovation. two, personal responsibility or individual accountability, like dagen was discussing. we've already proven we are great at medical innovation. we have clinical trials undergoing for tests, diagnostic tests as well as treatments, as well as our ability to make shift ventilators to keep people alive. we are not demonstrating in certain areas is the second one, the individual accountability, personal responsibility. the concept of people putting on some of these makeshift masks, going out in public, really concerns me. that they are going to lessen their social distancing measures if they have a mask on. i have colleagues in california, friends in california, beaches have still been open. they are still going out.

i don't want them to use these makeshift masks as an excuse to get out there. for moving towards, as a country, to be wearing masks and the general population, i personally believe the research is mixed on this. can there be some benefits? absolutely. i think there could be some potential harm, as well. i want people to do this smartly, and i really want to look to our leaders, dr. birx and dr. fauci come up with their expertise regarding this. i don't think certain mayors should be the ones saying people should do it. you want to have specifics when it comes to how you were going to be protecting your face. >> harris: you bring up such a strong series of points, really. if you relax the other things you are doing because you feel some false sense of security with a mask on your face, maybe people will wash their hands as much. and they may be drawn to adjusting that mask, as some experts have told us. the whole idea of social distancing has already been shown, and you've talked about it, dr. saphier.

that it's working. anything that would sort of jar us out of what's working needs another look at, as you are pointing out. so, thank you for that. we will take a quick break and come right back. more grim jobless numbers. that's only thing we are watching, that the economy. the pandemic has hit the american economy hard come as you know, sidelining another record number of americans. look at that. ♪ >> it's a stunning number. can i say something else without frightening everybody were freaking everyone out? the true number is actually much higher. ♪ at bayer,

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♪ >> melissa: staggering new jobless claims as the coronavirus pandemic sidelines millions of americans. more than 6.6 million people

filing for unemployment in the last full week of march, double the record high set just last week. that adds up to about 10 million americans filing for unemployment in the past two weeks. in the meantime, take a look at the dow right now, trading higher on the day. it's up 383 points. 387, now. in the league of that bad news. dagen, why do you think we are trading higher even though we had such a bad report? some people think it's showing we are doing what we are supposed to, that we have so many people home. maybe it's giving investors hope that we are moving in the right direction. it could also be this idea that we've moved into one of those periods where bad news is good news and good news is bad news. what do you think? >> dagen: i think the market tells us a big goose egg about the suffering going on in this country. we had horrible market day yesterday, wearable first quarter, and rightfully so. what upsets me about these

jobless numbers, these are individuals, families, literally, without work and without paychecks. it's tell 10 million people, roughly, in just two weeks. it doesn't reflect old people out of work. the state and implement systems are totally jammed. you can't get through on the phone, you can't file claims. the $2 trillion rescue package signed into law last week, it also provides unemployment for the self-employed, for independent contractors, so-called gig workers. but there's confusion about that. all i can tell people is there more benefits out there for you. $600 extra per week for four months. i'm 2:30 nine weeks of unemployment in new york. you get $1100 every week for unemployment. keep plugging, because normally it takes 2-3 weeks to process. you're looking at at least double that if not longer in some states.

>> melissa: governor, there have been some smart people in economic circles talking about this idea that we need to put a pause on everything in the economy, including people paying each other. that the idea -- there's a domino effect. when companies aren't getting paid for something, and they don't pay their suppliers, and there is just this chain reaction where nobody is getting paid. you wait for the banks to come in and foreclose, the banks need to be backstopped by the federal government. do you think something like that would even be possible, to kind of say, "look, we are going to push pause on all of this economic bill collecting, close to basically connect because everyone is running a circle, no one is paying anyone. >> mr. huckabee: well, i don't think it can be done by order. it would require congressional action. i don't think he would hold up the constitutional muster with the federal government basically says every contract you have, every agreement you have, is no longer valid "until we say so."

it would require probably a tall tower filled with lawyers trying to figure out, does the government have that much power to actually stop every economic transaction? what do you do when you go to the grocery store? "you don't have to pay us, because that's been stopped?" where does it end, where does it start? and currently complicated. i think everybody understands it will be many people not getting a paycheck, not getting paid their rent. i hope people are as generous and us thoughtful and as forgiving and as kind and patient as they can be, but i'm not sure that we want the federal government making one big decision. because i rarely see the federal government ever make a big decision that works out all that beautifully. >> harris: melissa, if i could, i think a couple of us may be frozen, here.

right? okay. "the wall street journal" right now has an interesting article that's out. it says the rush for the $350 billion in small business loans begins tomorrow, and banks have questions. i will just hit this. dagen, this will be for you. a day before small businesses can apply for forgivable loans from the 2 trillion dollar financial relief package, banks are saying they are struggling to understand how to make sense of these loans and make them eligible. for a government guarantee. we are on the eve of something that's supposed to work. >> dagen: right, and they are worried about the liability that they might take on as they process these claims. they've communicated that concern to the treasury department. i know that, because they have to verify the borrower eligibility and they are afraid about making the loans -- if they make a mistake in the application process. i think it's only a 2-page application. then the small business administration of the government won't backstop those loans. i will guarantee you, not having

any inside information, that this starts tomorrow and that they iron out these problems. because the government is going to put its giant elbow onto these banks to get this money out. this is to keep people in their jobs. these are forgivable loans, they turn into grants if these small businesses keep employees on. i have literally told everyone i know who runs her own business to get this money. it is there for them, and they are on it. >> harris: i love what you're saying. we've been hitting things with our elbow for a while there with our social distancing. small business administration loans will be so critical. okay, we are going to scoot. new concerns about the level of equipment remaining in the government's emergency stockpile of protective medical gear, as america is bracing for what we are told will be the worst during this pandemic, the next couple to three weeks. what the president is saying about it.

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♪ >> harris: president trump is acknowledging the federal government's emergency stockpile of personal protective equipment, ppe -- the term you keep hearing -- that it's nearly gone next to the surge in deman.

that includes masks, gloves, and other vital medical gear for frontline health care workers. here's what the president had to say. >> i'm sending it directly to hospitals. we wanted to come to the stockpile, because then we have to take it after it arrives and bring it to various states and hospitals. one of the things -- again, we ask the states to do this is much as possible -- many of the states have people, whether it's that or clothing, they make clothing prelots of clothing, and many of the different states. we said, "see if you can get it directly from those manufacturers. make a deal." >> harris: governor huckabee, yesterday i had spoken with fema after governor cuomo had said this week that it looked like fema and states were all bidding for the same things, doing all sorts of things to the price. since then, i know that outside of one flight, the first one which gave new york 60% of its load, fema has been offering charter flights and other

things. but not actually bidding. that's according to fema officials. my question for you, what role did the states play in reporting the ppe and getting it themselves? or does the government need a more umbrella approach? >> mr. huckabee: i think there needs to be a coordination rather than a coercion. here's what i mean by that. there should be a reporting of the states to fema. they are all part of a national organization. every single governor is connected to one of the fema regions. so, this is not a complicated thing, for them to say, "we've ordered this many, we've obtained this money," so there can be a national understanding of what's happening, and even accountability. you have 100,000. how many do you actually need? can we take 20,000 of them and send them to california? because you don't need them that, and we will resupply your 20,000. it's a much better approach for people to be creative and getting them, because there's a

lot of people manufacturing who may be able to do it for their own state. what i would hate to see is the federal government coming in and dictating, because the more bureaucracy you put in this, the more complicated, cumbersome, and ultimately the slower everything gets. >> harris: wow, very well put. dagen, it will come to you on this. the u.s. department of justice and u.s. department of health and human services today has announced the distribution of hoarded personal protective equipment. like, 192,000 n95 respiratory masks, to those on the front lines. they are going to take those things people have hoarded that they've been able to come across, and push them into the system. what are the penalties for awarding right now? i know you are watching all of this. what is your take? >> dagen: the penalty is being shamed publicly, first and foremost, because i think governor would agree with me, you can't fix stupid.

if an individual is hoard bi-ing this were a personal, well, shame on you. i do want to point out the inventiveness and aggressiveness of the governors and the states getting their hands on this personal protective equipment. more than 1 million n95 masks will flown in to massachusetts from china on the new england patriotses the jet, the 767 flew to china, landed, and flew back. it was one of the stories that came out overnight. that's the ingenuity of somebody like robert kraft. you might hate the patriots but you have to love this initiative. they are doing anything and everything to get their hands on with their health care workers need. >> harris: dr. saphier, when you look at this ppe and see different pictures of people, what is needed on the front lines that might be different than what others would need in medical health care? the only reason i say that is because in some of the pictures

they are literally wearing space suits, almost. in other pictures, they have on a cloth mask and maybe some clear gloves. what are the parameters, here? >> dr. saphier: sure, harris. they do change depending on what your exposure level is. the front lines being the people in the emergency department, the ems, the nurses, the technologists come everybody's coming in there with a large amount of patience. we are doing everything we can to prevent any form of droplet from touching their surface in terms of n95 masks, even a face shield to completely cover their eyes, their nose, their mouth. you describing just the surgical mask and some gloves, which may be, for people who aren't necessarily around some dramatic patients, but just for overall protection. we need these spacelike suits for the people who are around a lot of people, especially those who are symptomatic. because health care workers are getting sick from this. we are seeing nurses died. we now have a report of a couple physicians who have died from this. not that their lives mean any

more than anyone else, but if they die or are rendered sick and can't help, who is going to care for us that do become sick and? it is crucial to keep these health care workers healthy. >> harris: we will scoot now and get to the commercial. thank you. china is pushing back on a report that u.s. intel found it covered up the extent of coronavirus there. next, what president trump is saying about it. ♪ i had a heart problem.

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hello, i'm t. d. jakesof the potter's house and i just want to interject a thought into your heart and into your mind during the turbulence and the unrest that we are seeing in this time. because of the corona virus and so many things are going on in the world today there's much that we could be worried about today. but we're not, because we have learned to allow our heart to rest in god. the bible says he will keep us at perfect peace if we will keep our mind stayed on him. yes, you must be aware of the times and yes you must

be aware of the news and yes we must be aware even of what our physicians are telling us. but we can not allow any voice to be louder than the voice of god in our spirit, and in our lives. and that is the voice that spoke to the winds and the waves and said peace be still. i pray you will allow that peace to saturate your soul and slay the wind that would assault your mind. >> of the numbers seem to be a little bit on the light side, and i'm being nice when i say that, relative to what we witnessed and what was reported. but we that with him. not so much the numbers as what they did and how they are doing. >> melissa: president trump casting doubt on china's report of coronavirus cases and deaths

amid a new reporting blue brick at the communist country misreported the outbreak. china denies the claims. as of now, china, a nation of 1.4 billion people, ranks fifth globally in the number of covid-19 deaths, and fourth in the number of cases. governor, we've really learned through this whole situation how little we can believe of what comes out of china, and that a lot of those that had warned us of these dangers, especially of the danger of our medical supply chain and pharmaceutical supply chain being dependent on china, that they were not wrong when they made those warnings. what are your thoughts? >> mr. huckabee: well, kudos to president trump. from the campaign, throughout his presidency, he's made it very clear that you can't trust china. they haven't been a fair trading partner, they've not been honest. they've cheated, they violated the wto, they've done everything in their power to try to game the system for their own exam.

advantage. it's not as an economic issue, they are killing people. people around the world are dying. how many might have been saved if we had had better information coming out of china early on? thank goodness the president stopped the flow of people from china, way back in january. this could have been much worse. i was proud to see dr. fauci and dr. birx both affirm that the quick action and the early action was very helpful. maybe we've learned something about the perils of globalism, and why the idea of america being a country that can feed itself, that can fuel itself, and can actually fund itself is very important. by the way, fight for itself. make its own weapons of self-defense. whether they are military weapons or medical weapons, to fight disease. >> melissa: dr. saphier, you know, i wonder. there are other nations around the world that we can't trust

the data that is coming out. globally, do you think this problem is much worse than we think it is? what are the ramifications of that going forward? >> dr. saphier: sure, melissa. there's nothing i trust more than double-blind randomized controlled trials that come out of the united states. we do have a lot of wonderful allies all across the globe. that's not to say we have valuable research coming from every country across this earth. however, i will say that taiwan, only 80 miles off of mainland china, the reason they are doing so well right now is because they did not wait for information from china before they started doing things. they heard rumblings about an unknown pneumonia-like illness going on in december. they sent researchers, doctors come over to china to see what was going on. rather than waiting for china to tell the world what was happening, like the rest of us did, they shut down things and started aggressively testing well before anybody else even knew about it. so the fact that this

information was withheld from the rest of us is why, unfortunately, we have had so many cases come into our country. although we did have the early travel ban, had we been alerted earlier about how contagious this illness was, we would have been able to shut down our borders, like taiwan and many other countries are able to do, before us. the chinese government was telling their patients when they would come in and get tested that this virus is not contagious. they would swab them and send them home or back to work and would continue to spread. the fact is that there was misinformation from china and it's becoming glaringly obvious. we knew this was a problem with sars. it seemed like maybe they were handling it differently when they gave us the genetic sequence earlier on. but it seems as though we've fallen into the same trap, and we've gotten misinformation from china once again. >> melissa: meanwhile, some health care workers are seeing their hospitals are threatening them with termination if they speak out about their working conditions during the

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them if they publicize their working conditions amid the coronavirus pandemic. a spokeswoman for the washington state nurses association has told "bloomberg news" that hospitals are muzzling nurses and other health care workers in an attempt to preserve their image. "it is outrageous." this, as nyu langone recently notified employees that talking to the media without authorization could result in disciplinary action, including termination. with a hospital says, "information is constantly evolving. it is in the best interest of our staff and the institution that only those with the most updated information are permitted to address these issues with the media." someone who i know will break it real every time, governor huckabee, you are take? >> mr. huckabee: i'm going to be with the hospitals on this one. if a person who is a nurse or doctor, if they want to give press information, let them go apply for the job of the hospital spokesperson. that's not their job.

it's to treat patients. i understand free speech, but there are both hipa laws and damage to the confidence of the hospital. there's a time and a place to talk about things. it's not right now. i'm with the hospitals 100% on this. >> harris: a quick follow for you, governor. how would we know some of the information we have learned, if it were not for people speaking out and taking pictures and showing us online, at times, that this is what it looks like behind the scenes? >> mr. huckabee: well, we might not know. maybe we should know. but then i think the employee goes to the hospital and says, "we'd like to publish this. would like to put this on social media." but you can't have -- if you have 1,000 employees at a hospital, you can't have a thousand different people telling their side of the story and getting a true story and a true picture of it. because they only have their slice of it. they don't have the big picture, and that's what the hospital has a right to control. >> dagen: if you are a caregiver, as an employee at a

hospital working in an emergency room, he would never go outside and say, "hey, we don't have enough protective gear," unless that was falling on deaf ears within that hospital facility. one of my oldest friends is in an e.r. here in new york city, on the front lines, and he has's welcome to call me if he has problems here that some people speak out, when they feel their lives and others 'lives are at risk, because management isn't doing the job. >> harris: you bring up a point. dr. saphier, i come to you on it. >> dr. saphier: i will say i agree with both of them. i hear exactly what they are saying. each and every one of us, doctors, nurses, and health care workers alike, will have our own story with this is all said and done. i know there are punitive measures being taken for people who are refusing to work without masks, who are asking to have ppe, and sometimes it is falling on deaf ears. i think these are issues we are going to have to overcome at some point. all i can say is that we need to

get our health care workers ppe, we need to make sure we are taking care of them, and i hope, i really hope, that the leadership in these hospitals are stepping up and doing what is right for the people who are sacrificing their time and their life and being away from their families, to help us get through this pandemic. i call on the leadership of the hospitals to do what is right. >> harris: all right. thank you, guys. we'll be right back with more "outnumbered." i've got great news for veteran homeowners. if you have a va loan, now's the time to call newday usa. their va streamline refi helps you take advantage of some of the lowest mortgage rates we've ever seen. one call to newday can save you $2000 a year. one call can lower your payments by this time next month without verifying your income, without getting your home appraised, and without one dollar out of pocket. it's the quickest and easiest loan newday's ever offered. one call can save you $2000 a year, every year.

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