one month ago super tuesday a lot of change has happened last month. land of the free, home of the brave. we will get through it. a couple tough weeks let your heart not be troubled, laura ingraham is next. ♪ >> laura: i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle" from another washington and in a moment, my medicine cabinet ways in on why some in the middle knuckle establishment and this is very interesting. are so dismissive of treatment working for doctors and their covid-19 stations. nancy pelosi's appearing everywhere lately and she's not letting the pandemic go to waste. my question is, what's the g.o.p. going to do to stop her in the next days and congressman andy biggs will tell us. plus, big brother meets big attack and does that sound like a nightmare to you? my question is what will covid-19 tracking project mean

for your civil liberty? it's not good. they will sound off and a disastrous unemployment is a heartbreak, how much longer can our country stay under the lockdown? steve forbes have some thought-provoking analysis on that. plus, big city mayors they can criminals not to misbehave. yeah. if you're not going to believe, sexist man of the year, raymond arroyo breaks it down in a much needed "friday folly." this is america and shut down. they 18. i'm going to do something that's a little bit different from what i've done in the previous nights. i'm just going to share some stories. a top oncologist on one of manhattan's most respectable hospital called today and i know him by reputation and he's of course very worried about the ongoing crush of covid patients

in new york city hospitals rate of 304 people might have died there since yesterday and another 1200 deaths nationally. but when he really wanted to talk about was another disturbing part of the story that's getting frankly very little attention. namely, that with everything going on with covid, noncovid illnesses are being left untreated or undiagnosed. again, this is one of the best doctors in new york telling the story tonight. summing up, it's a long conversation, but he said to say for example is a parkinson's patient needs a battery in his brain stimulator changed. is this an essential surgery to install a new battery? technically, may become unknown, but going without it for him sure has a terrible effect on his quality of life. then there's a patient who puts off getting the intermittent pain in his abdomen checked out because he's afraid of covid exposure at the doctors.

but turns out later to be a malignancy. all right. this position wanted to come on tonight. to speak about this. he seen the trend. again, untreated and undiagnosed conditions noncovid related. the hospital by the way is not close to capacity and all for treating covid patients tonight. but the hospital administrator would not give him permission to appear tonight to tell the story. i don't know why, it's an important story to tell. then it's another doctor in boston. he told me that hospital staff there are actually being laid off because so much noncovid medicine isn't happening. they have to make money doing it, right? his boss would not let him appear on the show either. that's too bad. then i heard from the doctor at a front-line hospital in queens manhattan. the population there is more

middle-class and tends to have pre-existing health problems he recounted. if so covid is putting more of them in the hospital. he also said the most patients at the hospital are covid positive and most are carbon positive and sadly he said that most of the elderly patients there die if they have to be put on the ventilator. he said that seven patients died there that he knew love just today. they pretty much all had underlying conditions, diabetes, prediabetes, a heart issue, et cetera. but he said despite the fact that the infection is spreading rapidly in queens, the hospital where he works is busy, very busy, but not yet overwhelmed. if we hope they don't get overwhelmed. they have enough ventilator so far and enough personal protective equipment and he expects the peak to come in one week. he says information like this

frankly needs to be put online so we can readily compare the experience of each hospital to what we have heard as far as projections go. it would be useful to have that. however, from dr. deborah birx on the coronavirus task force, today, she said this about questioning models and projections. >> i know we are always saying who, what, where. of when we get through this, we can go back and look at what happened to come aware, and what the pandemic looks like and we get through all this we can ask the questions about could we have done some piece of the spider as global community. >> i have enormous respect for dr. birx but perhaps there's a t since we are taking extreme action really extreme action to response the virus. ended up putting millions of americans out of work.

is it going to be better to improve the model now and question them and even change them. rather than doing so after all the damages done. it's not about finger-pointing, that doesn't get any went everywhere, and using the best data as it comes in. now, remember, models are guesses and they're based on whatever inputs we can't or whoever the statistician is. but if the data is wrong? we know already that data is incomplete. imperial college was already forced to revise its covid projections by many multiples. right now, really smart people of goodwill and our top research institutions including the nobel laureates are in a raging debate. on the issue of modeling covid-19, specifically, on the thing we've been talking about, the domino mentor. the number of people infected with covid, if the right denominator and being close to right to just the virus and i

know a lot of people are a or mild symptoms. but on the issues we should hear all sides. all input is welcome. now, a new global survey of thousand of doctors came out late yesterday and found their preferred treatment, -- these are the doctors for covid patients is, drumroll please, is hydroxychloroquine. of the 6,227 physicians surveyed in 30 countries, 37% rated hydroxychloroquine the most affected the therapy for combating the potentially deadly illness. also found that 20.2% of medical professionals had prescribed the drug in the u.s. far less is interesting than other countries buried outside the u.s., hydroxychloroquine was equally used for diagnosed patients with mild to severe symptoms whereas in the u.s., it was most commonly used for high risk diagnosis patients. in spain, 27% of doctors

surveyed said they already prescribed it so why -- thinking about this a lot the last couple of days. why the obvious bias against the drug here? again, hydroxychloroquine. well, the cynic in me wonders if it's because big pharma can't make money off of it but remember, it's cheap, it's an old dot demand drug, it safe, and generic. it scalable, we can get it quickly and cheaply and that's what he wanted a crisis. china has all ready done controlled study which is very promising. the noncontrolled study and friends were really impressive as well and the epidemiologist and all europe and he said you got to use it. of renowned infectious disease specialist dr. steven smith who is treating dozens of covid patients, he described the amazing results he's getting with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin. >> we treat everything with

hydroxychloroquine, and numbers and as you see five days or more without hydroxychloroquine, zithromycin combination has been inundated. if this is beginning of the end. of the pandemic. i'm very serious. >> laura: when he said that, my heart stopped, i thought he meant the beginning of the end of the end, not the pandemic. if watching the president, he clearly gets it. >> it's looking like it's having some good results and i hope that would be a phenomenal thing and we have a tremendous plight of it we ordered it. in the case that it works and can have some pretty big and impacts. >> laura: the presidents are in sync rights on the money here, and it should be used as a preventative, a prophylaxis by all of the frontline health care professionals by frankly the military and first responders and they can't socially distance.

i said it, and i bet it ends up being the go to in the hospitals as well for all the nurses and the staff there. nothing else works better when administered early as well as mentoring and the patients fight against the virus. finally about face max. >> the better part of that is that when you can't maintain the social distancing where some sort of facial covering. >> laura: but does that mean the president should wear a mask too? >> why are you opposed to wearing one yourself? >> i don't want to wear myself, it's a recommendation they recommended. i'm feeling go to. >> i just wondered, have you been told about more why. >> i just don't choose to, they're not mandatory guidelines. >> laura: this went on and on, by the way, why are not wearing the mask? it's the most ridiculous series of question on the mask for the president but i was about this. really, if you could guarantee

tonight you get rid of the virus and also go back to where, if it took like wearing, i don't know an entire hazmat costume or maybe a big full chewbacca costume i would do it. >> laurawe don't need a lightsay friends, we need a job to save her at this point, saving lives and jobs with all the best medicine that we have in the middle of an emergency. those are my thoughts at the end of day 18, america and shut do down. all right, joined joy to me now, cardiologist and ceo of fox cardiology and dr. debbie, practicing physician also with fox five in new york. at dr. debbie, in your city right now, there's a clinical trial starting on hydroxychloroquine on the prophylactic and the treatment.

1500 patients are involved and i certainly hope we get clear and transparent data and preliminary data within days on that. >> i'm very excited about this because it's actually looking to see if we can slow the spread of the coronavirus. so far, all the studies that have come out in france, the ones that came out in china, they're looking at whether when somebody is sick, once they're in the debug hospital, can it helps in of treatment but we really want to do is prevent people going to the hospital and prevent death. soak it's going to be done at the columbia university medical center and met register that the trial and they're basically looking to see if one person ana family develops the coronavirus, can it be used for everybody that lives with a person to try to protect them from developing the symptoms themselves. >> laura: 's doctor, you have addressed this with your colleague across the country in

cardiology and other specialties. tonight, if you had to advise high-level government officials and frontline military responders, doctors, nurses, given what we know in the current situation, should they all be on hydroxychloroquine with the supervision of a physician? >> i think the answer is clear to me absolutely yes. let's look at a few facts. we not seeing patients with lupus who take plaque when l, the branded name for hydroxychloroquine, were not seeing the individuals developing covid i'm not seeing any cases and the chinese have looked into this. at the second issue, the drug has been a around for a long time. minimal side effects, toxicity is trivial and it's very rare that you get a drug which is both safe and highly effective. you enumerated many that it's already been done but this is the drug lets cheap, it's easily made to, scalable, i sent you

the manufacturing data rate of i think absolutely our military needs to be on this prophylactically. all you need is a screen ekg before starting. if the health care workers need to be on it and still both grous actually get antibody tested and we know that an individual who tested positive for the antibody actually is then immune from getting the actual covid illne illness. but i think absolutely, what we need to do is the volume of drug deeded. >> laura: scale it out, and the defense production act to do it and he should do it because this could completely keep more people off ventilators and intervened early so we should not wait and according to all doctors talking to me, i want to play something from the architet from obamacare and seek a manual says this about possible coping treatment. >> salesmen come out of the

woodwork, all the time in the circumstances whether it's vitamin c or its chloroquine or whatever. at the moment, we don't have truth on anything and so don't take anything thinking that you are protected because that is just garbage. >> laura: doctor, doctor, you keep hearing this line that we have no proof. but that's absolutely untrue. we don't have a button down 1500 person study result yet, but physicians all over the world have proclaimed it's there go to drug. do you think physicians are poisoning their patients all over the world in spain and italy, china, united states by using the drug of? is it working? this is insane when he just said. of >> i agree, on top of that he mentioned vitamin c but people are using that and doctors are using that also intravenously to help. of but i will say, comparing to snake oil is such an extreme

statement so if you're talking about something like appendicitis and 70 wants to do something like that and see rather than having an apt object to me, it's a situation where we have a clear-cut answer. that's a little bit more questionable and when you selling to the patient and this is a safe treatment option and you look at the risks. the benefits on the alternative also and there's not a blond of great alternatives but there's some promise in terms of the benefits that we should give people choices. >> laura: yeah, if it doesn't kill you, which it won't unless you have some complicated heart issue, you go see dr. but doctor, very quickly, you spoken about this and not got enough attention and i mentioned it in the open. hospitals and noncovid conditions, people are putting off getting the nagging pain check and do i got a funny twinge and it's not going away and turns out to be something serious later.

how important is it to keep noncovid patients at home and not coming into the hospital on these kind of treatments? >> i think every patient has to be examined at risk versus benefit and for high-risk patient you probably want to get and be very cautious about going to the hospital. at the same time you don't have a heart attack at home. yet their counsel and talk to your doctor and be very upfront about your symptoms and your doctor should know what the situation is at the hospital. you should not deny the example that you gave up the patient whose parkinson stimulator needs to have the battery changed. my gosh, if that fails, they may fall and fracture their head. >> laura: i can tell you, hold on, i want people to understand this is not me saying this, this is the vaunted "new york times," headline. during the pandemic, unanticipated problem and out of work health care workers.

across the country, plunging revenues from canceled nonemergency medical cut the pay of doctors, nurses, other staff and i bring this out because we have to think of the reverberations, the ripple effect of this is having across multiple medical specialties and conditions. it doctors, thank you so much agree to have you on tonight. last night, we warned you about plans to fight the coronavirus outbreak with the gps tracking. cell phone app tracking. it's a huge threat to our civil liberties and apparently it's already happening in "the wall street journal" reported this a few days ago, google is right now checking your movements and releasing it amid the pandemic. joining us now is harmeet dhillon, attorney and trump 2020 attorney max board member and one of my favorite books of the last two years and i say it with all sincerity, tell your children it's about marijuana and you have to read the book.

google says it's not releasing any identifying personal info but is that really that supposed to fee make us feel better? >> laura, $5 billion or hundreds of millions or even more violating people's privacy and part of the business plan is what they do. i have zero confidence that people are going to keep the data anonymous and zero confidence that global reach and confidence demand governments, and that's at issue with the prn existential one, laura. >> laura: i've a question, where are all the civil libertarians and all the people want to go fight for the freedom and of the syrian but their dead silence when it comes to our freedoms and liberties here. forecasting the hospital needs in the outbreak, alex, the newer governor cuomo claims this period of >> the projection say

you could have an apex needing 0 beds and about 40,000 ventilators. those are numbers that not, i believe, i want to believe. >> laura: 's the model died almost been relying on is called the ihme model. here's what it's predicting, the state will need 75,100 beds and icu beds and 927,000 and what's happening in reality. there is 14,810 people currently hospitalized with 3,731 icu patients and today, cuomo said about 350 new patients today needed vents which will be far under of course the 40,000 apex he protected it. alex, why is the model so far off your? >> well, the model basically estimated that there's going to be a huge inspection about two weeks ago.

just at the lockdown was being put in place and that was going to lead a huge bite in hospitalization and it drives icu beds and ventilator needs and also for whatever reason and looks like he didn't quite happen. yes, there's a lot of new cases and a lot of people dying and i don't want to downplay that reality. >> laura: yeah, of course not. of >> but if you look at the nur of actual new hospitalizations a day, it looks like basically/for last ten days or go where the model was projecting would increase as more auras four or five and if you look at the university of washington model right now if there predicting that new york, that new york was going to have 60,000 people in the hospital beds. that's off by a factor of four and then so important to understand this is only released last week. if it's not like so but he made

the projection months ago just as the epidemic started and that's not like it depends on it. >> laura: alex, all that, we will have you back on the topic and thank you for that. if coming up, congress, on recess, shoul should they come ? ♪ announcer: there are everyday

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>> we will probably be moving to vote by mail. of >> national stay stay-at-home order, you think the president should order one? >> well, you know, it works. >> laura: well, we see a lot of nancy pelosi lately and she's been everywhere. but a lot of people are saying where is the g.o.p.? everyone's out of session, congress back home and their home districts and children in place and answering phones of constituents. old men are out there pretending that the radical left policies will help and i don't know, reportedly awaiting until it's all blown over and maybe it's unfair and joining us congressman andy biggs and congressman, i've been beating the drum for days and i hear that it's a war, were on the way to having maybe 25% of the country out of work. we've got domestic abuse going off and i'm sure depression and loneliness, despair, hopelessness.

and she's plotting the phase four to send a heck of a lot more money. when you guys coming back in session can and putting out your own road map? >> well, we should be putting out our own road map now and i tell you what it is. if the change the paradigm and we are tired of walking and playing on her turf. the reality is, she wants to centralize the economy in ways that when i found in most americans would as well. so we do, you chase the paradigm by opening up the economy as much as he possibly can and you start making the governors that are shunning this down and forcing people in those states r takings and americans want to work, they want to get out, andp in some places. this is really the first step is to change the paradigm. by liberalizing the economy. you respect the cdc guidelines on the care for people, but that's the first -- >> laura: >> laura: 's and

congressman, cox meant, sorry, didn't mean to interrupt you creative but wasn't at the cdc who screwed this up from the beginning, no offense? we have to wait for the cdc, wait for the curve, the apex, goes up, goes down, most people are like, look, aware mask and tell me, do i wear a mask, do i wear gloves? if i can get tested on any -- tell me what i have to do so we can get back to work to solve the problems that are going to be rippling across everyone's lives and help the people of our most vulnerable to the disease at the same time. we can do that but the republicans have got to stop and start pushing the message. save the people and save the economy and you can do both. >> that's exactly the point i'm trying to make is that we can't close up the economy because their societal pathology and ramifications for that that are ripple for many years to come. quite frankly, i mean, you see

suicides go up which some places have seen suicides go up, child abuse, spousal abuse, drug abuse, all those things when people invest their life savings and they can't even get out and work. people need to be able to get out and work so we have to push that and that changes the paradigm and it pushes nancy pelosi out of her comfort zone and that's what we have to do if were going to see this economy surged back and still protect people who have the vulnerabilities that we found. >> laura: all right, breaking news just moments ago. a political reporting that trump fired michael atkinson. this is just happening we don't know a lot more and punishment on this? >> as you know, we've seen tremendous violations of civil rights by abuse of the fisa of the fisa courts. and i think so but he has to be held accountable and just the first of many more wear on the

chopping block in the interim report by inspector general horowitz indicates that in every one of the cases that they have sampled, the abuse by the fbi intel community, that's got to stop as well. that's the abuse of the civil rights and i just can't tell you, that's one of the things we should be doing and congress is getting back there and cleaning that messed up as well because that's also going to have ramifications. it probably already had ramifications and this is very, very important. >> laura: congressman, we have to remember and in the crisis has to be dealt with and protect people and save lives. we have the civil liberties in the constitutions and preserves and after 9/11, we did a heck of a lot of stuff that in the moment felt really good. but then later on, years later comes the way tried in abuse and we have to think about that now and we see the fisa court and all that stuff that came with a patriot act and some good stuff in there but a lot of stuff that was open for abuse. we are seeing some of those things creep in during this

covid crisis as well. congressman, i'm glad you're on the job and we want you to come back to washington and confront the pelosi agenda because this is going to be a massive crime done and thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> laura: all right, coronavirus lockdown giving the worst job report in a decade. read on implement rate at a 50 year low until we lost 700,000 jobs in march and that's the beginning right now. 4.4% but that number is going to jack right up and going to get a lot worse and we better start paying for it and figuring out yet to get the accounting background and 10 million people laid off in the last two weeks and the numbers and i know it hurt the heart of steve forbes editor and chair of th chief, he wants to end the lockdown on april 30th and i think they've got in the up it's going to be in a couple weeks. what happens to the economy if it goes beyond april 30th?

>> the devastation, it's going to be really real and yorty saw in the 10 million number the last two weeks that's going to get worse. in fact, the economic equivalent of the shutdown of the coma, be more blunt about the sledgehammer so this is owing to go where economics and health care health care into times moment we have to massively step up with the testing and as example, in five or 15 minutes where you can tell if you can have the horrific disease and they only produced 5,000 kids. they should be producing 50,000 a day and licensing the government should be pushing them to do it and other manufacturers and we should be getting 100,000 tests a date for a country for our size and expertise we should be doing at least 500,000 a day to find out who has a immunities and that's good i if you have immunities even if he didn't have the disease and it was just a normal flu. that means you can go out in the workforce. so we've got to do massive

testing so that by the end of april we can have large parts of the economy starting to function again. yet appoint somebody as a point person to make sure that these things are done now. in fact otherwise it's going be lost in translation. >> laura: april 25th, and then if algae is not going to like the curve and there's going to be a blip that means too many people have been outside pedal birding or jogging and so but he was arrested i could you not, arrested in malibu for california, for a paddle boarding and this is what happenings in the country, people being arrested for walking outside for being on the ocean. do you ever think you'd see that in the country? >> absolutely not, and the idea he can go to church, can do other things and most americans -- >> laura: can't do anything. >> washing their hands, most americans know if they have to do social distancing as they call it and i like physical distance and as a phrase to describe it. fine, do it, but the key thing

is to get as much as they economy up and running as soon as possible. if we continue this, will be another rescue package and another one needed for small businesses but those are not going to get to the real problem. if you take sledgehammer to the american economy and takes time to bring it back and he'll recover quickly as long as you have a benign environment which gets to the election hopefully next year we will have the benign environment and then you will really see things start to turn. in the meantime, massive testing, emergency testing, get the manufacturing up we did it in world war ii and we saved 200,000 american soldiers lives because of the development of antibiotics and that was a crash program and pushed by a fellow push and that's what we've got to do here. get it done. >> laura: yeah, we have achieved scalable safe drug, hydroxychloroquine, that's easy to produce. >> i came under the same office and same guy that gave us the antibiotics in world war ii, same 200,000 soldiers lives ande

hydroxychloroquine, we've got t. push it now. >> laura: atwell, drug companies don't make any money out of it and so out of the suspicious cynic, you don't make money off the air into drug or the brand name, and they don't make any money off of a period of the resistance to hydroxychloroquine. >> this is where you say get it done, here's how you do it, and it will get done. we all know drug companies know they're knocking to do well if you have a rotten economy. if so let's get it done, and the real push on hydroxychloroquine is the fact that donald trump likes it and if donald trump said the sun came up with them morning, oh, no, that's a chinese light bulb in the sky. it we've got to move on all fronts on that. >> laura: we've got the former fda commissioner throwing cold water on it and felt it, i love everybody and love the medical profession but they want a double-blind controlled study on whether the sky is blue. okay, at some point we've got to

put the tourniquet on grade >> the bureaucratic habits have to be broken and this is the emergency like more times. let's treat it as such. >> laura: steve barb, love having you on, take care of yourself and come back soon, okay? >> thank you. >> laura: okay, bye dennis bactrim has bunker, raymond arroyo, all the details on "friday folly" next. ♪ hi i'm doctor shelby mccan, audiologist here at eargo.

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vice president spoke from the wilmington basement about the coronavirus release tracks and so much more. it's all in our new "what you know, joe" that segment. >> america should not wait to single minutes of donald trump can put his signature on the physical check. the white house should have the bags and back of the states not just the responsibility of the white house. >> laura, he's turning into the rip van winkle of the coronavirus politically. the man is rarely there and trump has 8 million people watching the daily press briefings from the white house and biden in his basement talking to himself. a suspicious way to run a presidency here. >> laura: really meant it, was the audio and the video, was not us or his video and it seemed a

little mixed mismatch there. >> i think there have been some problems but stuck at home, and certain supreme court justice is still hitting the gym. the court is leaving the gym open twice a week to accommodate your pal, ruth bader ginsburg and trader ryan johnson. now, the supreme court announced today they're suspending moral arguments for the rest of the term so they can keep the gym open for rbg and that's not why they're suspending but they're keeping it open. how can the high court to be close to business? how can they do this? >> laura: it well, i worked there many years ago if you remember, and the idea of the court closing seems absolutely preposterous. i mean, -- >> laura: can they do it from the chamber? >> laura: no, they can separate the cherries and actually it's pretty tight in there and they can move the chairs apart and you're not on top of the justice when you're

doing in the oral argument and you're standing a little bit buried him so this is just stupid. but all three branches should be engaged. >> only way to get your case heard is if you wear a workout gear and the supreme court gym apparently. >> laura: ruth bader ginsburg is amazing, she is incredible and we've been talking about the corona come back as we called it and the golden all the acts that are returning to get up the youtube hits during the pandemic. there's another person hitting the workout matt again who is that? >> rbg could join her just to keep you in shape, laura, familiar workout back in business revived by jane fonda. ♪ >> and lift up. and m. and up. up and down. [laughter] >> laura cannot remember on friday she started doing the

fire drill friday is still garbage out rested to raise awareness for climate change and with icon, jane is doing the workout routine again i'll be at the vietnam vets won't be attending these virtual events. >> laura: first of all, if only she can get arrested for the five, six, seven, eight with the legs. >> america's lawyers who really distinguish themselves sylvester human, not among them especially when he offered the safety message to his constituents. >> until the coronavirus is resolved, criminals, take a break. okay? stay home. stay home. don't commit any crimes. that way, they stay for and not jail. and police officers will stay safe and go home to their families, okay. so everybody chill. criminals, you chill. [laughter] >> laura: no, no, no!

>> unbelievable! >> laura: what? that's all you need to do! >> can you return to live in any and larceny after this? >> laura: it raymond, if anythig goes wrong, just chill, okay, commit your grand larceny. no, no, after we flatten the curve you can go check a car. this is crazy! speak of their prospects are doing that so. >> laura: hold on, before we go, what is the change.org position that gone all the attention? >> believe it or not, dr. anthony fauci named him man of the year. and people are taking this seriously, the editor in chief of that anthony fauci is indeed the latest unexpected start to

emerge from the covid-19 task force daily briefings and he helped bring back must-see tv to the masses. smart is sexy. no doubt. laura, this gives women a lot of hope if anthony fauci can be the sexiest man alive. >> laura: well, i'd be interested in seeing that photo. this is the people's online reaction to the petition. check it out. >> look, any man that can ease my anxiety about a world's pandemic is sexy in my book. >> laura: totally, raymond, totally, totally. >> smart is sexy, glad to hear it. >> laura: all right, thank you, raymond, we will see you next week. up ahead, the cdc is now recommending everyone wear cloth masks in public. so why now? end of it so important, why did

it take so long in the confusion? willett slow the spread. science jeremy howard will answer the questions more. next. ♪

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>> we don't recommend them for the general public. >> laura: which is that? masks, no masks, halloween masks? while the cdc and settling the debate in recommending and not requiring, people wear face masks while they're out in public in a physical distance, but not the kind that doctors are. >> a scarf is highly recommended by the professionals. >> can be made from bad demos or scarves or things like this which you have at home. >> were advising new yorkers to wear a face covering whether it be a scarf, it can be something you create yourself at home. >> laura: joining me now is jeremy howard, founder of masks for all and university of san francisco scientist and jeremy, should we d be doing a y thing with a vacuum cleaner bags and i'm looking for those all night and i can find any.

there's a run on the banks now and apparently that's good. would you recommend? >> you know, the worst mask as your skin and you don't want and find the droplets touching your face and coming out of you and touching somebody else. so the messages here is covering up. honestly, doesn't matter what the actual cover is and any kind will protect about 99% of the tiny droplets that fly out new talk. and of the droplets that are mainly causing the infection. >> laura: dr. how would it, i went to little clip of me video for a very popular homemade masquerade of >> 13 inches on the homesit. if cut out the piece, for half inch strips from that sheets interior and insert the tie into the small hole that you created

a buried not one end, but secure the time with a safety pin. >> laura: jeremy, all of them of the men around, i'm not doing this, too confusing and too many different steps and i mean are actual people going to do this? is a going to become a passion? >> i'll tell you something, this is a mass that looks like when a sign makes it and that's on of a t-shirt and i tied around my head and it works great and based on the scientific research with two layers of cotton is great. the chinese researchers found with a kitchen paper towel and so i just have a bit of t-shirt as you can see the towel in the middle around my head and i've got something that works. it mind you, my mother-in-law is doing a little bit better and she's taking pity on me. the same thing, right? she left me a little pocket for

the magic nano material for the paper towel. it works just fantastic. >> laura: oh, very cute. professor, when you look at the way that people are reacting in stores and stuff. a week ago, people were shocked and seeing people in masks creative people are now like hey, how are you doing? and i love what you did with that. i love the twist. how did you make your nods? it really is -- it's a sight to see it. it is a really creative idea and some other of our senior producer. she wanted to make a mask out of only household supplies and this is what she did. >> i took two sheets of a paper towel, folding this way in the next way. over again. just two rubber bands. folded them over on the edge and stapled them. here's the mask. >> laura: and just think, people were buying up all these

things on amazon for $150 for one mask, three or four weeks ago. so from now on, until when? dr. howard, will we have to wear the masks? forever? >> until a few weeks after lockdown or they stay in place order are done. masks are amazing, and they cut the rate of transmission up to have an scientists have estimated that if any percent of the people in the community wear a mask it would actually completely help transmission. so it's kind of -- it seeming like the number one tool right now and so if we keep the masks -- >> laura: jeremy, great to see you tonight. coming up, raymond arroyo returns with a big announcement. ♪ there was a time when this represented the future.

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>> shannon: it's raymond on lattimore pollutants body sorry ray, out of time. fox news at 19. >> this is a fox news alert, democrats reacting with outrage late tonight as the president's fire the intelligence community inspector general. he was the official who told congress about the anonymous whistle-blower complaint that helped set off the event leading to president trump's impeachment. tonight, america is given a new way that we can help stop the spread of the coronavirus. some call it a pivot from what they said weeks ago. it's necessary while out in public. the president calls the guidance and voluntary, he's not going to follow it himself in the oval office, and the fact that it's voluntary is key,ha